I heard people talking about this subject as far back as the late 2010's but I didn't really put much time into thinking about it since I was younger and living in my own little bubble, but now that I'm in my early 20s and experiencing this shit for myself I'm genuinely awe struck at how much we're willing to tolerate as a people.For younger folks- especially younger Gen Z- community is fucking gone, or pretty much on it's way out. There is literally nothing bringing people together anymore. There's nowhere to go to meet up with young people- places you'd go to talk, hang out, make friends, talk to girls, do activities- what have you.Bars are filled with older people and are expensive. Gyms are packed with people but they're all on their head phones and they're not taking working out seriously- just there to do a few reps and take some pictures because oooh loook at me I'm thaaaat guy/girl living thaaat life.Even when you do find younger people- most are anti-social, uncharitable or worse- they have that blank look that people are talking about. Fish eyes. Fish in a bowl. I see so many places on the internet filled with people talking about shit like this- how they spend all their time in their room doomscrolling and generally wasting their lives. They can't find a job, they can't make friends, they can't even fucking date- and it's not like they're some lazy ogre looking thing like the stereotype we have of losers in our heads. It's genuinely not their fault.How the fuck do we fix this?>inb4 go outside-WHERE!?
Not at all. Atomization is a natural evolution of democratization of information production and distribution. The cat is out of the bag, Gramsci dead
>>517705535Its even 'worse' than what I assumed. The Charlie Kirk psy op (using the tragedy for broad narratival manipulation) failed. The coof narrative failure and trust crisis has fucked things up for good. I am not even sure if genociding boomers by correcting the pyramid scheme by 99% is going to improve things.
>>517705365Get used to it goy. You need to get off here and apply to 10,000 jobs or starve cuz we have another 1,000,000 secret pajeets coming your way.
Nothing ever happening is endemic The amount of cat worship suggest end of civilization
>>517705365Zillenials, Zoomers and alphas were given the golden gift of instant messaging and they instead used it to give themselves anxiety and major depression
>>517705365Literally have family learn a job no a business you can do your self then start hiring your family. After you teach them have them break off to start their own. Stay under whatever the limit for diversity hiring is in your state or only pay cash if you can. Make friends with their friends and hire them too meet up to discuss how things are going or plot fun outings or big deals. Thats all i got but i have a large family. Eventually you meet non family and someone drags their sister cousins along and then there is women. You cannot be a nigger or around niggers doing this though
>>517705365>Gen Z Alienation, Lack of Community>most "diverse" generation>least white generation
don't know if this is much help, but with most people you just have to be more persistent and outgoing to break their shell. Put yourself on the line and people will be more willing to reciprocate. If that doesn't work move on and try again. Yes our society is shit, but nothing we can do about that really on the grand scale
i dunno what to do anymore, i used to work as a miner for like 4 years, it ended with me going to theraphy for 6 months, whenever i hear my parents scream or somone else scream or get like nervouse i get heart pains and i need to lay down, nowadays i just do nothing, i used to paint and listen to music and admire art and this sort of thing but its gone now, cant really explain it but its like whenever im like hey brain lets do something it is straight up silence, block i just want to do nothing, i had 2 single mothers hit on me or rather show me signs of affection but my heart aches whenever i think about women(both fucking insane but nice asses) at this point its unbearable, i feel dead i have no medicare because im unemployed dont care really to going to doctor i might just fucking die, i tried nofap working out which i cant do even now because of the heart pain im losing it dude like im paralised cant even wirte propely
nah nigga that cap you an incel freak nigga shiet nah say me?!
>>517705365Only possible thing is a religious revival but i dont think people have it in them without an immense amount of suffering, which will come eventually. The industrial revolution and its consequences etc etc
>>517708243>thing is a religious revival but i dont think people have it in them without an immense amount of sufferingWell that or the non religious just kill themselves either directly or by not having kids(already happening.)
>>517705535Feels like it.
>>517708243Religion requires shared reality, which requires an oligopoly or monopoly on information production and distribution to be able to have authoritative knowledge and meaning building Religion doesn't work when information production and distribution is anarchic
>>517708501I didnt say every community was going to make it.
>>517706925I'm trying- well, doing the best I can. You say have a family but you kind of need a woman for that. Hopefully things change soon.
>>517708572If inter community mobility is extremely high and doesn't create any negative consequences,how likely is it some individual remains in a community and submits to its authority? Yes very low
>>517708501>Religion doesn't work when information production and distribution is anarchicBut there are religious people forming families and having kids even in america today?I think its like the amish the mormons the orthodox and the catholics for highest birth rates of people who form families
>>517708868Those are examples of groups that actively oppose the anarchic paradigm and remain firmly in the monopolistic of pre Guttenberg. Humans going to survive as a species but this civilization is over
>>517708605>You say have a familyNo i meant like brothers cousins aunts uncles. i have a family of people who like each other and will help each other. no wife yet.>Hopefully things change soon.I believe they will but i still think we have to go down more first.
>>517705365i feel like i'm biased because i'm a neet myself, but it does seem like everything keeps getting worse just by looking at the numbers
>>517709035>Humans going to survive as a species but this civilization is overYou know what thats fair. Its deserve though there is a natural order to things and our civilization threw that out the window so now people kill themselves and become infertile. Maybe next golden age wont be cut short but become literally anti life
>>517709039>Literally last of my lineWhat fucking family? There is none
>>517705365And you can't move out.
>>517705365You'll make plenty of new friends when you're drafted to fight WW3 for the kikes.
>>517705365due to facebookdue to phone dogma
>>517709221I can't predict the future, I can just make informed assumptions. History shows that once technology exist, be it stone tools, aqueducts, printing press or a global communication system, it doesn't disappear. As said the cat is out of the bag, globally, and it requires local active opposition, that means giving up on comforts to not succumb to the new epistem
I don't like people and the less I interact with them outside of internet the better. I was never social, I never missed people or phomed them first. Public spaces make me feel anxious. I think it's a good thing that community is dying out. I wish all jobs were WFH.
>>517705365Pickup homeless hotties
>>517709275>Literally last of my lineI'll be honest thats extremely difficult. you can still do steps 1 and 2 but its hire to hire strangers or make friends with them. Family trust is hard to match or replace. I dont know any good communities that didnt lose to covid or scammer/niggers running them out. Just build a income and try to wander into a group but i will be honest anon i cannot advise you and would probably be worse off than you if put in your shoes. If its just you and you have no true friends(Can borrow a couch, money or labor with no hard feelings) then i dont know.
>>517705365Excuses excuses but these silly fucks cry skill issue all of the time. Time to crash out of your lane, Godless losers. BE HUMBLE!
>>517705365Just do what I do:Go on ome.tv and chat people up. Also, if you meet Indians (usually in groups of 3), I just chant at them until they change the channel for me.
>>517709951You can't even live like The Dude anymore, everything is too expensive, we live in a system that wants to make you cry.
>>517709951What is this even supposed to mean?
>>517707706Get your health back with Ray Peat. Take some vitamin E for your heart at least.
>>517709039oh okay, now I get you.>>517709093Yeah. I'm trying not to be blackpilled about things but when I look for solutions- I just don't fucking know what to do.There's a line where no amount of self-help or 'touching grass' and running game will fix the problems you're dealing with.
>>517705365not accepting friends or girlfriend at the moment but if we do we will have them fill out a paper application disclosing faction family alliance, connections to said faction, ancestry with DNA proof, loyalty towards said faction, willingness to go rouge and join us in akatsuki, and recognition/acknowledgment that 99% of people in every faction literally dont have any power and do mass sacrifices on targets to make up for this.
>>517705365I took up photography about two years ago and met lots of poeple who I see on a regular basis.
>>517706925Having a family is literally the worst thing you can do to yourself in the US.Get a tranny gf and enjoy sex without consequences
>>517710466don't give it too much thought, you shouldn't live constantly anxious because the system is shitting itself and you were the (un)lucky one getting a front row seat, cortisol is a bitch.
>>517705365Ez, kill the rich. When they're running an economy seperate to the rest. Sucking all the value out and providing nothing else. What else is there to do?Elon musk can literally fulfill his plan to acquire another heap of tesla stock, all by himself. He is an economy unto himself.Its all fake, its all lies, the sooner you wake up to it, and either stop participating in it, or killing those creating it, you'll never escape.
Congrats you are part of a dying civilizationThings have gotten exponentially worse in the past 24 years and we are 10-20 years away from the pot boiling over to the fire
>>517711567>Having a family is literally the worst thing you can do to yourself in the US.Being raised by a single mother or being thrown out at 18 and forced to hand 80% of your income over to blackrock to live next to niggers is much worse. Let your family help you help them if you can if not build yourself up till you can. Communities and tight nit families are the best way to live as a human there is a reason modern society shills so hard against families and encourages to leave explore go to college get in debt adventure and so on.
>>517705365>I see so many places on the internet filled with people talking about shit like this-People can only talk about a problem caused by the internet...on the internet? I think that's definitive proof we're fucked.I guess we just wait and hope that AI fills the internet with so much fake shit that everyone leaves voluntarily.
>>517710466Buddy the best you can do is the following>get /fit/>get armed>prepare>and support your loved onesBasically, prepare and support each other, and pray that you dont get caught in the flames of collapse
>>517711891Well the internet should have been used to gather and share information, and porn.Now everything is linked to it
>>517705365Its been going on for a hundred years bro, literally. Creation of the fed ended this country. Women voting sped it up. Im listening to archives of Art Bells Coast to Coast AM radio show, back then in the mid 90s people were calling it 'the quickening' which is just the same concept as when people talk about 'accelerationism' today.
>>517711825Well most young men at best have their parents, and they're not going to be around forever.Ideally a young man should have a famiky by his mid 20s but jews and their feminist goys have almost completely destroyed that venue and made it extremely difficult to approach that venue.
let me give you the secret formula:get really good at somethingleave social mediayou will crave for social interaction more than everwhen talking to someone you will be actually a great person to talk todont pretend to acquire knowledge, but actually put an effort on itlearn something besides making money, play an instrument, learn a language, even reading is okjust dont pretend that everyone is the problem when (You) are here wasting time in 4chan
>>517709600Butt gay sex isnt frenship.Retarded gook.
>>517706481>Zoomers and alphas were given the golden gift of instant messaging and they instead used it to give themselves anxiety and major depressionGotta love it, I'm like one of the only people mostly immune to that shit for some reason
As a Gen Z, I can relate. I find that there's almost this omnipresent pressure to keep to yourself. I find it very difficult trying to interact with anyone for that matter because if you're a stranger that approaches someone and wants to talk with them, you'll somehow be given the judgemental glare of "get the fuck out of my face you retarded fuck, quit wasting my time". You try to ask girls out and they'll think you're creepy (unless you're good looking or above average). It feels so isolating, very difficult to connect with anyone. Add this with the fact that there's no cultural homogeneity and that everyone is all over the place as well as the fact that politics is so polarizing to the point where you can't trust anyone either. Social media and how it rewards blading people in the back through cancel culture also didn't help either. I guess isolation and paranoia aren't helping us at all
>>517712708It is a state of Death.
>>517712447maybe the weed pen helps you with that
>>517706925Good idea.Large families can function as a business conglomerate / mafia, with all sorts of nepotism and deals under the table, like browns do against us.Only boomers and X are stupid enough to still believe in meritocracy, honest work, firm handshakes etc.
Have u played hollow night silksong
>>517705365I'm Gen Z and I deadass be feelin this too, these Timmy turner ass niggas mean nun to me tho, ion let them blemish my image or mess with me and my motion
>>517705365Zoomers have figured out that women are only attracted to chad, so they've given up on life, they've mentally checked out.
>>517712708The funny thing is millennial and older are still friendly. Maybe they really did get fried by phones or covid or sum shit, but it's zoomers that are ruining social spaces for other zoomers.
>>517713298Here come the homosexual r9fags!
>>517706481>>517712447Instant messaging is not that great for socializing, especially limitless stuff. It removes the clear distinctions between socialization time and non-socialization time. Nobody can get too mysterious or be too interesting to catch up with when you have access to them 24/7/365. Messaging is somewhat helpful for arranging social events, but the longing that you see in threads like these is for UNPLANNED social activity, stuff that just happens because you're nearby each other.
>>517712333>et me give you the secret formula:>get really good at something>leave social media>you will crave for social interaction more than ever>when talking to someone you will be actually a great person to talk to>dont pretend to acquire knowledge, but actually put an effort on it>learn something besides making money, play an instrument, learn a language, even reading is ok>just dont pretend that everyone is the problem when (You) are here wasting time in 4chanshut yo bichass ass up nigga
>>517705365I'm 23 right now, I see all this stuff and I get it man, I'm definitely luckier than most when it comes to having a social circle and very grateful for that. My advice as someone who is really where youre at is to embrace the few people you might have strong, do more for them then they do for you. When I go out with a group of people and dont recognize someone I go super put of my way to get to know their name and a few things about them and I remember those things, it means alot when an interaction isnt thrown away. And my number one peice (is real) of advice is when you see a socially awkward guy who is having a hard time like I was, like I think you are, like alot of us are, reach out, reach out hard because the more people we can pull out of this the better and it has to start with us. As for women, I cannot lie I am not very optimistic. Its not impossible but I'm being real with you I know 2 or 3 people with a relationship that isnt hell and usually its the woman. I am friends with women and it is usually their fault and their perspectives on relationships are fucked, im not saying this to be a doomer, I am saying focus on you and making friends, if you decide you want a relationship get ready for some bullshit, but honestly I think if we buckle down and keep improving we can find good women who are worth spending your life with. We dont get the lifestyle earlier generations got, they fucked it up for us so it could be better for them, thems just the facts, how are we dealing with it? What are we supposed to do, not deal with it? No, survival is resistance at this point and the dragon we were put here to slay has veins made of carbon fiber, claws made of hellfire missiles, venom made of isolation, and wings made of high places we fund but can never set foot in. God bless you brother build your community wherever you can as much as you can, encourage social gatherings, and ignore whores until you can find a good woman, it wont be easy, but we have to
>>51770536525 year old Gen Z here. I had the exact same thoughts for the last year. Unironically? Find passion. I'm unironically working with autistic kids in ABA. I'm fucking amazing at it, and the kids are awesome, and there's absolutely nothing about it that really feels clinical when I'm there with the kids.Best part? All the girls are our age. And hot. And fresh out of college looking for guys that care about innocence. I'm not raking in the girls, but I'm surrounded by fish with more on the way because this is the fastest growing sector in healthcare.Don't want to do that? That's fine too. You really just need to find something you're unironically going to enjoy that you can surround yourself with likeminded individuals. THAT'S community.If it has to be on discord, and you meet up irl every few weeks, that also works!
>>517707706HELLBOUND!
What is there to be motivated about?
>>517712333wow the original Japanese isn't anything like how I thought it would have been
>>517712708Yeah that's exactly it. I've only met a few good zoomers in my life, met a lot really good millenials though. I always preferred hanging out with them rather than zoomers.
>>517705365Good bless you mentally ill zoomer "men" for making it easier than ever for the average shmuck to fuck women 10-15 younger than them. I know it's always been easy but now it's apples falling from the trees because nobody is harvesting.Keep it up, you're doing God's work.
>>517711626>10-20 years awayI can't wait that long
>>517715338the cool shit you can probably steal when everything goes to hell maybe
>>517705365Do a short course relating to something you're interested in or take up a team sport or join a club or something and stop being a fag.
>>517715618this confused me but then I saw you live in romania and it all makes a lot more sense
>>517713375True.>>517714291You're a very nice person and I really appreciate you for taking the time to share this. You hit a lot really good points.I'm not necessarily awkward, I've been told I'm outgoing by coworkers and bosses- It's just people in my age range. >>517714728Also good advice here.I do have hobbies and I'm trying to branch out. Might try Ju-Jitsu, there's a few places near me.
>>517715875True. Gunmaxxing is also fun
>>517705365have you tried gaming?
>>517718497LOL
>>517718497As someone who tried to get back into gaming recently no. Modern games are gay people really dont play like they used they like to sit around bitch and moan about games or their lives and everyone has some fucking issue. Banter and trash talk doesnt exist and can get you banned.Fuck those fags
>>517705365Come home white man.
>>51770536520yo zoomer and agreedits all just fucked everythings fucked I think most of us got told off as kids and found refuge on the internet and it just never progressed past that
>>517705365I play some team sports like volleyball and basketball. There are apps and also community centers. If you play with the same group for a year you start to get friendly with people even if you're awkward at first. Pick convenience and short distance so you stick to it.
>>517705365I play ultimate frisbee in my city. Lots of fun. All age ranges. It's great exercise and we average about 5 miles ran per each afternoon. I've been with many of these people for 20 years.
>>517707706See a doctor. Heart pains might also be reflux or something else don't try to assume the worst. For mental stuff it's a marathon I wish you luck pole. Try to be in groups often. Find excuses to.
>>517705365Send them to WW3 and focus on Gen A. They still have a chance.
you have to have a hobby.like cars? go to street races.like guns? go to the range.like robotics? go to competitions.like video games? go to esports events.like politics? go on grindr.the game is different for gen z no cap on god frfr but u just have to be proactive.other than that just have a job where you’re friends w your coworkers, ideally banging one.
>>517705365>CommunityIt's origin comes from:>from Latin communis "in common, public, shared by all"Joined with:>Latin munia "duties, public duties, functions,"What duties do the youth have, that are common, public and shared by all? I mean even something as basic like the duty to maintain your property so it looks well, they don't own properties. Likewise because they don't have families they don't have obligations to ensure that their family is growing up in a good place.My grandfather (now passed a decade ago) said something that really stuck with me. At the time I was just a bit of a complainer with an attitude (a bit cynical) in my 20s. And I said something like "why do I have to do this" and he said: "men have obligations". I think that's the difference between like "boyhood" and where you are a "young man". Men have obligations.It's a sad state of affairs with our young men. They don't even drive now. They don't feel obligated to do anything. They're still in that boyhood state, even in their late 20s and 30s. I mean yes, I can understand people are getting a rougher deal than before. The younger generations are the least white they've been and so on. But there are certain things that are within your control.Back to the community thing, community isn't just about "hanging out", that etomology has duty on the end of it. And I think that's really where it's fallen down, if you don't feel like you have obligations, why would you have a community?>How the fuck do we fix this?I don't think you can really "fix" it in the sense that you can't help someone who doesn't want you help. I think it's better to start small and try to find people like you and organise that way, than assuming random braindead normies will suddenly become self aware and see your point of view. Sometimes you have to actually just start doing stuff. People assume networking is "just show up" but there's way more to it. It's about building reputation. Start with you first.
>>517705365Welcome to 2025. This what has been planned. Why do you think nobody ever does anything? No revolts, no mass protests, no counters to whatever the jews and the traitors do in this world. Zero community, zero communication. This situation is also whats leading to the mass increase of mental health issues young people are having.
>>517722060>PicDamn that reminds of the time i looked into who owns porn companies
>>517707706dudeyou're stuck in your own headjust fucking do something you sound like a woman.i was like this at some point. literally just WORK. your point as a man is to fucking WORK. and then eventually figure out how you can work for yourself even if its a small income.>t. makes minimum wage monthly working 20 hours. neet the rest of the timeAlso all this mental health disorder shit is self imposed. You are sick if YOU want to be.
>>517722150Just a coincidence
>>517722658I mean what are the odds of that? there was one white dude in porn but he got arrested recently, so strange.
>>517722726Odd, isnt it
>>517705954>I am not even sure if genociding boomers by correcting the pyramid scheme by 99% is going to improve things.As far as I'm concerned there could be a huge war and an expulsion of jews and a rebirth of white homelands and worldwide cheering and I would still struggle to find meaning in it. Everything corrupts, the more beauty and the more complexity, the quicker and more violent the corruption. It's over.
>>517705365Get involved with a community project or garden.Good mix of people at these things.
>>517705365>WHERE!?you're just a pathetic faggot. I'm older and I have many Zoomer friends. Yes, they do go outside and hang out. Yes, they go and meet friends and women outside too. Yes, they have money and go spend it how they desire. Yes, they go to the gym and actually put in effort to attain physical stature. You're just a demoralization poster. Some even go traveling the world with me and have the time of their lives. You? A faggot of the worst kind, OP. Go fuck yourself.
>>517705365That's weird because to me, Gen Z looks like a bunch of cookie cutter people. All the same haircut, all listen to the same mumble rap. Either that, or they are straight up goofy with mullets and cowboy clothes. So, it's strange they don't get along being so superficial and outwardly similar. Millennials were divided into social tribes based on a few different flavors they picked up from MTV.
>>517713195that scared me :C
>>517715338toby better finish deltarune before everything goes to hell
Things are whacked
another millennial thread crying about random shit
maybe work at a church charity
