This does not affect me in any way.
>>517714850congress shouldn't get paid shit if things shut down but they should still be forced to work
Not my problem.
>>517715089Unfortunately, congress pay is automatic. Shutdowns are temporary, and congress can't legally change their pay rules for the current session.
A news website here said>The US government is hours away from shutting down for the first time in almost seven yearsBut I got the impression this shit happened like every other year. Anyway, I remember once the Northern Ireland government had issues running for quite a long time, and weirdly enough, the rest of the country seemed to work just fine even without the government. Funny that, almost like we don't really need most of what they do...
>>517715372It's politically charged sabre rattling mostly. I was serving in the military during one shutdown, and I still got paid like normal. It's fear mongering, really. A budget bill will get passed, and this will not affect a single person (Unless you get fired during the shutdown for being a liberal with this administration...)
>>517714850i live in a housing program asshole
>>517714850Don't those republicans have a majority in everything over there? How and why are they letting this happen?
>>517716462Good I hope it falls apart
>>517716462Have you considered not doing that
>>517714850>essential>>>congress
i like how that slime piece of shit mike johnson is a so called christian of faith but lies every day on national television. Trump and Mike Johnson are satan spawns.
>>517718692Just to play devil's advocate: can you link a single video and timestamp a lie he spoke? This is for my education, thank you.
>>517718692>>517718788I am ignored.
>>517718788For 2 weeks straight he says Schumer wants Americans to fund illegal aliens on healthcare, 1.5trillion. What Schumer and Jeffries ask is the ACA credits to be extended. Thats it. The ACA is a popular program with right, left and indepentants so they will not mention healthcare unless its to lie about it.Republicans have been trying to get rid of the ACA for years. Illegals can't get any ACA benefits, its in the law.
>>517719549That's not a video with a timestamp. I want to watch him speak words that are a lie. You know it exists, so show me please.
>>517716575for fun
>>517719598https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ku5g5fpcZo&t
>>517719720What is the timestamp, and please quote the lie you are referring to. Thank you.
>>5177197201:30
>>517719545shoot yourself
>>5177197731:30>They want to take your funds and give that for benefits to illegal aliens1.5 trillion
>>517714850use bolt cutters to reopen parks
>>517719790I hear "Schumer, and Hakeem jeffries, have come out here, stomped the feed (?), saying they can't go along with this. They're trying to bring in extraneous issues. They brought in a counter proposal! You should look at what they're proposing."Where is the lie>>517719890That's not what was said at 1:30.
>>517714850>Visa processing
>>517719957go a few seconds later to tell you what is it they want retard according to him retard. 1:53 is where he says that
>>517714850It burns when I pee now. Thanks assholes
>>517714850Won't impact me in the least
>>517716462Sucks to b u
>>517719549>Illegals can't get any ACA benefitsUnless of course the previous presidents autopen granted parole or other status to these "refugees" and "asylum seekers." Of course you know that, because you're a fucking shill.
>>517720149Sorry for the wait, I was afk. Anyway, you should have timestamped that, retard.I looked at the timestamp. I hear "They wanna take your funds, and give that for benefits to illegal aliens, they want to restore that because they got rid of it."That happened. I witnessed it. Why is it that every time I ask you to timestamp something, you do and tell me he's saying something else? Why do you do that?
>>517714850They fucked up my camping trip that I've had planned for 3 months, I'm so fucking pissed.
>>517714850>social security and Medicare paymentsEven when the rest of society crumbles the boomer will be taken well care of until he draws his final breathe.
>>517720401It's a lie used to destroy the ACA. Tens of millions of US citizens rely on the ACA. The only demand they want is to extend the credits. Nothing about giving it to illegals is changed in the language.
>>517720496They're not funded by federal funds. They have their own basket.
>>517720401Because he's not talking to you to convince you or express an idea or his thoughts or the truth. He's a shill that uses words as weapons. That's it. If he could just push a button to erase you from existence he would.
>>517716575Republicans live in permanent contrarian mode. They dont know what the fuck they are doing when they actually have control and agency. They only know how to piss and moan about DA LIBURALS!!! But when they are in charge they are clueless. Yet still they find the time and energy to point fingers instead of getting anything productive done.
>>517720574It's not a lie. There is a faction trying to take resources from Americans and distribute them amongst American enemies. I think you're a shill. I think I took you off script.
>>517720621Yes, I agree. I saw this after I posted >>517720703
>>517720337The illegals that Trump deported? Also what fucking planet do you live on retard? The autopen doesn't magically grant illegals citizenship.
>>517716575In order to pass most bills, to include finding bills, in the Senate you need 60 votes. Dems have refused to vote for the funding bill that already passed in the House.
>>517720574Go back where you came from
>>517720703Who are these american enemies? poor families, that are citizens? You do know republicans are also on the ACA right millions are. Except many don't even realize they have it because insurances by state have different names.
>>517714850Yep, it won't affect me in any way
>>517720838You're a shill!
>>517714850Why the fuck would payroll shit down cause some fat niggers wont turn up to yap about a bill?
>>517720807Not all of them are gone, you know this.>The autopen doesn't magically grant illegals citizenship.Didn't say it did, shill. Fuck I swear you guys used to be better at this.
>>517714850
>>517720838They should all serve in the military and get free healthcare for life. Shut up shill.
Who cares I still get my NEETbux
>>517720882no argument. just a mentally demended retard. Let me remind you what happened the last time the republicans tried to get rid of obamacare. They lost the house and senate.
>>517720838>Who are these american enemies?Things like you.
>>517720999Exactly!
>>517721006Cool you should be cheering then. No consistency.
>>517721006I've seen this a lot. I destroyed you with rhetoric and dialectic, and you're so far off script you don't know what to do. You can't hurt me.
>>517716462found the libtard
>>517714850Small business loans, eh? I guess the jeets won’t be buying any more convenience stores or hotels for a bit.
>>517721076I don't find it amusing that people will get fucked for it. The blame will go to trump for it though. Mike Johnsons lies as initially pointed out are because he believes you people are fucking retards. Many are that retarded, but theres enough people that see through it.
>>517721104bring back the american hotdog. 7/11 heater dogs need to GO
>>517721381Pilpul. :)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilpul
>>517721381Mike Johnson isn't lying though, at least about this. Sorry, this is going to be a long decade for you. If you're allowed to still live, after this.
>>517721675I just wanted to pinpoint a single Mike Johnson lie. Just one. I wanted this guy to be honest about his argument, and show me where I can watch words that are a lie and have this guy quote it verbatim. He can't do it. It's easy when you know how to fight them. For you my friend, if you haven't read it, I recommend The Art of Rhetoric.
>>517721766sounds like the says it around 1:50ish. but you guys should just agree to disagree cuz you're both retarded faggotrons
>>517722035I'm in the middle. Where are you? Where is my shillpanion?
>>517720403There is a chance of this occuring every year. You should have planned around it.
>>517722107i don't even know or care who Mike johnson is, or the ACA. I'm just waiting for total economic collapse and WW3.
>>517722422Lol. Carry on, soldier.
>>517721381Why did this guy leave when>>517722035This guy showed up?
>>517714850>social security>essential
>>517714850how about we keep it shut down permanently? I've never gotten any of that shit.
>>517722380The fact that a government shutdown can happen every year is a sign (amongst many others) that something is seriously wrong in this country. We have a bunch of geriatrics with childlike mentalities and emotions running our country. These faggots act like they're still in kindergarten, with their tit-for-tat bullshit, gotchas and insults. It's honestly infuriating, but yeah, it's totally my fault for planning a camping trip in the beginning of fall.
>>517715372>>517715544What makes this slightly different is I've heard conditions for firing staff during a shutdown are much more relaxed. Trump might use this as an opportunity to keep it shut down for a while, and then fire a shitload of federal employees.
>>517714850>Congress shuts down the government. >Gets paid to shut down the government. >Guy who causes the problem gets paid to cause the problem. >Everybody is fine with this.Very intuitive.
>>517723119Good.
>>517723321>police are paid by the taxpayer>they beat the shit out of someone and kill them, over jwalking>cop gets a free vacation during the investigation>if his boss can't bury it and lie, the taxpayer paysVery intuitive
>>517720621>He's a shill that uses words as weapons. That's it. If he could just push a button to erase you from existence he wouldIt's clearer to just say "he's a jew."
Just like covid
don't worry goys israel and argentina will still receive their billions
>>517724779
>>517715089FUCKING THIS.
>>517714850My SSI payment didn't go through.
>>517727727Go to church and ask for help.
>>517714850>visa processingno more jeets
>>517714850>This does not affect me in any way.SAME.
>>517716462It's a safety net, not a safety hammock.
>>517714850It does affect me and I'm looking forward to the time off lmao
>>517714850>passport and visa processingGOT WHAT I VOTED FOR GET FUCKED NIGGERJEETS
>>517728018Very good! I hope you get your back pay, sir!
>>517727807Not complaining, just informing that the OP may be incorrect. Thanks for the concern, bud.
>>517728113I think you're a shill. Payments are October 1st (today). Check your email.https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/09/29/social-security-payment-government-shutdown/86419409007/
>>517714850same song an dance over and over. so that trump can be an attention whore.then nothing happens and in a few weeks everything opens back up like trump saved the day.trump makes everything shit, then he fixes the shit he didsame shit over and over with trump.make a problem fix the problem you make and act like you are the bestand MIGA boomers will eat it up
>>517728017"THE JUDGE" HAHAHAHA
>>517728234Buddy Status: Revoked
>>517728476I'm sorry, I must keep a questioning attitude. If you truly are on SSI and you have a missed payment, I feel sorry for your plight. But I won't believe everything I read on 4chan.
>be trump>lacking of attention>cause a problem>weeks go by>fix problem that you made>claim to be the bestnothing every changes
>>517728634>This does not affect me in any way.
>>517714850Hey, I got a hat!
>>517714850Either way republicans win, just more money for Israel
>>517714850NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN GOVERNMENT SHUTTING DOWN
>>517729219You have a hat too!
>>517714850No EBT for you
>>517714850Nothingburger also two more weeks.
>>517715372>I got the impression this shit happened like every other year.It's been close to happening a bunch of times but they always "reach an agreement" in the nick of time. It's all a huge theater play however, and this is effectively a nothingburger.
>>517714850Nooooooooo not the hecken VISAS saaarr
pic not related
https://hud.gov/
>>517730785I don't get it
>>517714850The entire black middle class work for the government. This will affect them terribly.
>>517728476Based Mormon
government shutting down so trump has more time to play golf?
>>517732644>>517732712I'm sorry it's just... it doesn't affect me! I know, I know, it's just... It's not my problem!
>>517714850>congress essential>military and law enforcement are essential
>>517720613>They're not funded by federal funds. They have their own basket.Medicare/Medicaid is only about 15% funded, the rest is continuous debt
>>517714850BasedFire everyoneDon't re-hire any lefties/browns
>>517716462Get a real job you nigger.
>>517720403Just go anyway?
>>517734556>>517734685
>>517720574Socialized Healthcare is an abomination that must be abolished for the good of everyone.The government should have no role in Healthcare at all.
>>517714850sba is just for spics, jeets, and niggers.
>>517715089They should all immediately be replaced. They're fucking worthless twats.
>>517727727Oh no, anyway.
>>517734810I have an intuition that America will have free healthcare before 2030 and it will be a great system. Probably it will also charge less money from people and I gotta be honest the amount of money healthcare industry makes per year in US is absurd. If that cash were invested in different sectors America would reach it's industrialization in no time. Surely that considering the amount of people X costs we have an incredible number but, man, 5 trillion dollars in a year? That's what Apple took 30 years to be worth.
>>517735144Right now, and as it has been for many many years, veterans get incredible, free healthcare. It's available to every able-bodied American. I think I agree with you.
>>517714850I am going to make this really simple either trump stops what he is doing and gives up all his ambition.Or i am going to kill myself.
I love seeing americans suffer through this clownshow.
>>517715089that's EXACTLY what I came here to say
>>517736063Jai hindi sar. shamalama something or whatever.
>>517714850>congress>essential
>>517735963No don't do it I love you.
>>517714850No other government has ever shut downNo other government has ever shut down... Probably be best just to replace this one
>>517714850If they could also shut down congress and social security/medicare, and permanently, it would be a second golden age. Every second congress is in session is just rights being stripped away. Every second boomers are kept alive past their natural lives is just life sapped from the young.
>>517736395Republic to Empire
>>517720838Why would you even engage with these bots retard? Go about your way.
>>517736395The Roman Republic was founded in 509 B.C.E. after the last Etruscan king that ruled Rome was overthrown. Rome’s next government served as a representative democracy in the form of a republic. Initially, Rome’s wealthiest families, the patricians, held power and only they could hold political or religious offices. Everyone else was considered plebeian, and no member of this group could hold office. Over a period of nearly 200 years, however, the plebeians fought for and gained power within the government.At the heart of the Roman Republic was the Senate. The Senate advised on matters pertaining to rules governing the city and population. In the republic, members of the patrician class served as advisers to the other governing bodies of the republic. Although the Senate did not formally make laws, the prestige of its members gave the Senate great influence over Rome’s law-making bodies.The Senate lasted as a sole governing body for the republic for only a brief time, lasting from the republic’s founding in 509 B.C.E. until 494 B.C.E., when a strike orchestrated by the plebeians resulted in the establishment of the Concilium Plebis, or the Councilof the Plebs. This gave the plebeians a voice in the government. As a result, new legislative, or law-making, bodies of the Roman Republic were formed.
Leading the republic were two consuls who were elected by legislative assemblies. They served for one year, presided over the Roman Senate, and commanded the Roman military. Though their power was somewhat limited by the establishment of other magistrate positions, the consuls were effectively the heads of state.The republic stood strong for several centuries. However, as Rome’s power and territory expanded, internal conflicts began to emerge as citizens and families struggled for power. For example, in the 1st century B.C.E., the famous Roman orator Marcus Cicero uncovered a plot by a Roman senator, Lucius Catiline, to overthrow the Roman government. Some citizens, such as the Gracchus brothers, attempted to institute government reforms and social reforms to help the poor. Ultimately, factions emerged (loyal to either the patrician or plebeian classes or to a specific military general), hostilities erupted, and a series of civil wars plagued the republic. During these civil wars, a prominent general and statesmen named Julius Caesar began gaining significant power. He commanded the loyalty of the soldiers in his army and enjoyed access to substantial wealth after conquering the province of Gaul.
>>517736632The Senate, fearful of Caesar’s power, demanded he give up command of his army and return to Rome as a citizen. Caesar refused, instead marching his army south directly into Rome. As a result, another civil war erupted between Caesar and his chief political rival, Pompey. Caesar emerged victorious and was named dictator for life. Previously, the title dictator was given to an appointed, and temporary, leader in times of military emergency. Other leaders within the republic feared Caesar would become a tyrant with this new title. To prevent this, a group of senators conspired and assassinated him. In response to Caesar’s death, his nephew and heir Augustus defeated the conspirators. He then established himself as the first Roman emperor.The Roman Empire dramatically shifted power away from representative democracy to centralized imperial authority, with the emperor holding the most power. For example, under Augustus’s reign, emperors gained the ability to introduce and veto laws, as well as command the army. Furthermore, the emperor wielded significant authority over those who served in lower-level executive positions. No citizen could hold office without the emperor’s consent. As a result of this redistribution of power, the popular assemblies that functioned during the republican period became less important and lost power.
While the assembly became virtually ceremonial, the Senate survived. Primarily, the Senate survived during the early period of the empire as a legitimizer of an emperor’s rule. The powers given to the emperor still came from the Senate. Since the Senate was composed of Rome’s elite and intellectual citizens, they impacted public opinion. With this power, the Senate could declare an emperor to be an enemy of the state, or following an emperor’s removal or death, the Senate could officially wipe the record of his reign from official history.At the time of Augustus’s reign, the Roman Empire had solidified control over the Italian peninsula, established North African colonies following its victory over Carthage during the Punic Wars and controlled large swaths of territory in Spain and Gaul. Under the emperors, Roman territory expanded farther, dominating most of the European continent, including Britain and major areas of modern-day Eastern Europe.This expansion, while bringing to Rome great wealth, power, and prestige, ultimately helped bring about its downfall. Even with the Roman road system contributing to the mobility of the military and trade, the cost of maintaining the vast empire weighed heavily on Rome’s treasury and its political administration. Added to this burden were increasing raids and attacks by foreign tribes and communities. Emperors attempted to solve these problems through internal reforms.
>>517720907The USAid money got cut off. They kind of have to take whoever they can get.
In C.E 476, the last of the western Roman emperors, Romulus Augustulus, was dethroned. Nevertheless, the eastern half of the Roman Empire, identified in history as the Byzantine Empire, would last another thousand years until falling to the Ottoman Turks in C.E. 1453.History rhymes.
>>517714850So everyone in the White House, all the politicians, and Trump's Administration will no longer be paid, right?
>>517736746Everyone involved gets 1 sandwich.
>>517721006Yeah, and if weren't for Johnny Wet Start getting up ofc his cancer death bed and voting with the Democrats, it would have been gone.
>>517714850nothingburgernothing happens
>>517736803>>517736725This user is a shill.
>>517715089Sorry, but Congress has to keep being paid. Otherwise no one would be able to pass any bills to read a headway and prevent a situation in which the American Government falls apart, because none of the Federal Workers can support themselves anymore. Congress will and always has held the majority of the power. The system is working as intended.
>>517723119He fired 500k in the 2019 shutdown.
>>517736896That wasn't enough.
>>517720403National Parks are don't actually close. There just won't be any services or forest jannies.
>>517736949We're getting new jannies.
Can't wait for all the boomers and disabled people on housing programs to die.
>>517736861>(48 Posts by this ID)One of us is being payed to be here, Airman.
>>517736942It was a start.
>>517716462Why is an antifa poorfag whining
>>517737176It's my thread. I was referring to >>517721006, but carry on. "Paid", not "payed".
>>517716462HATE THIS PERSON!! METAPHORICALLY EAT THEM!!! WE MUST EAT THIS PERSON METAPHORICALLY!! CONSUME THEIR FLESH METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING!!! AND THEN WE MUST WHORSHIP HIS DEAD CORPSE!!! FEAR THE STRONG!! EAT THE WEAK IN A METAPHORICAL SENSE!!!
EAT THE WEAK OR YOU COULD BE NEXT!!
>>517737668The meek shall inherit the earth
>>517714850it's legal to rob banks and kidnap people nowAnarchy in the USA
>>517714850right side is welfare / fake jobs , yet essentially to propping up this fake economy
