Were illegal immigration and inexpensive Asian imports load bearing pillars of the American economy? You'd think that with people being deported there would be more jobs, and with the logistical disruption of tariffs, stonks would go down too.
>>517762444Stonks are now mostly about automation. Deported workers -> automation focus.
>>517762820Yeah, but the US is less automated than Germany and an order of magnitude less automated than China.
>>517762444No. Money printer go burrrrrrrr. Simple as.
>>517762444You severely underestimated the corporate spending on AI that actually drives the indexes.The days of lowly mutts driving the "consumer" economy are well overThe indexes are propped up by less than 10 companies all the jews store their gambling money in.
>>517763043>corporate spending on AIThe white house is just giving trillions of dollars in contracts to companies like Oracle and OpenAI, anon. It's pretty obvious what is happening but you are stupid enough to think there are real investments rather than the money printer souping up the economy
>>517762444The stock market is being held up by the AI bubble right now.The at least 40% of the value of SPX is held up by companies that are banking on AI and/or investing in AI related things (datacenters, GPUs, etc.) Some places say its higher than 40% but I got 40% based on the Math I did myself.AI is useful, but it is way overinflated right now because investors are expecting that the first company to reach AGI "wins" at capitalism effectively. They all are scared of missing out, so tons of money is being thrown around and stocks are shooting up.
>>517762444Uncertainty plus the hope AI will make labour redundant.Stability will return and AI doesn't seem like it will do everything promised.
>>517763363It isn't trillions yet by the government, biggest numbers I could find are probably more like $600b-$800b. However this is definitely also inflating the AI bubble even more
>>517762820what job title is most involved? (or most based)is there like an automation consulting specialist engineer?I'm a high IQ autist 4chin that loves the idea of efficiency gains especially if it means fewer browns and ladies with make work jobs.how can I be the ICE agent on the front lines deporting people (by taking their jobs away via automation)???thanks anon. together we can do it
>>517763440>>517763449More tards who think this has nothing to do with the government printing infinity dollars.>>517763747You completely underestimate how much money the government prints each year at this point.
>>517763363The companies that run the White House have all the money that runs DC you fucking hotbox laying dimple skulled hanging nigger. Fucking potato brains shut the fuck up you retarded ass dipshit.Don't pollute my generous intellect with your simp chimp dribble
>>517764232You're probably an Indian with an IQ of 76. What is the US debt right now?
>>517763994With cheap money, you'd think companies would be hiring.Somehow, Trump seems to have dumped the US right into stagflation, which is what this data says to me.
No one is being deported No one has been removed from the United States Apparently, over 4 million illegals “self-deported” which means they went out of their way to download an app and send themselves back to their shithole with no prompting whatsoever
>>517764346It's the same problem Canada has with bail outs. Money goes to companies. Companies then take the money and hire people overseas. Stock goes up because company buys its own stock using printed money from government. Everything inflates.>Somehow, Trump seems to have dumped the US right into stagflation, which is what this data says to me.The US was already going into stagflation due to the massive debt over the years. As we can see from the price of gold mooning, the printer goes brrrr indicating that inflation is out of control right now.It's not Trump. It's just the Jews. Trump is just the current puppet.
>>517763440solid commentscompanies are competing to outspend each other on AI and apparently able to generate solid revenues from corporate clients signing up for their cloud based software servicesrefreshing considering all the niggerdom polluting discussion here
>>517764588Cognitive bias and an IQ of 76. Pure Indian here believing delusions in "AI revenue".
>>517764339What do US debt valuations have to do with stock market valuations you schizo nigger who loses focus at the drop of watermelon seed?Vaxxed and clotted anons posing as intellectuals lol
>>517763767You need to become good at acquiring venture capital and getting contracts. AI will be good enough to be chained soon, which means no workers are needed to automate. If you don't feel like picrel, you could acquire capital to spend in data centers in non-traditional ways. Maybe crapto really becomes an established thing, and you could run some DAOs for your profits.
>>517762444this just means>they didn't work>they caused damage to business>they caused unnecessary govermental/NGO/state burden (jobs for leftists)
>>517764659Chimp intellect. Clotted neurons. Normalcy bias anon motivated by marxist semen slurping and glownigger ops.Loses discussion on corporate AI spending, shifts like a nigger with a racing heartbeat to another fake claim of intellect
>>517762444>You'd think that with people being deported there would be more jobs, and with the logistical disruption of tariffs, stonks would go down tooNobodyis getting deported.
>>517764860>What do US debt valuations have to do with stock market valuationsSheeeit nigga where does dey money come from? Line go up, but I think iz dey AI n sheeeeeit. Every company be dey investin in dey AI I'll tell ya! Money come from dey trees n sheeeeeit. What is dey M2/M3 money supply? I don't know dey anyfin but dey AI n sheeeit = TOP investment niggga.
>>517765046>American intellect
>>517763767I mean, where are they most needed? Construction work, food production, care homes. So for now, you could just automate efficient use of workers. Robots need another decade or so. But you can help pushing White former office workers into unskilled work in these industries.
>>517762444Nvidia is the load-bearing ETF now. If Nvidia goes down the thin pretense of a "healthy" economy goes out the window. its another dotcom bubble waiting to explode and everyone knows it
>>517765083The truth is revealedSee I told you so niggerKeep up the good work informing your tribe how Facebook exists because the White House sends them an allowance every month.You retarded ass commies are so fucking retarded it will make it easy to pull the trigger on your families soon.
>>517765489You literally don't understand anything KEK. I'll just leave your own comment again so you can live completely disgraced as a genuine retard:>What do US debt valuations have to do with stock market valuations
>>517764588thx m8>>517763994We are always printing and that does have an impact, but its no where near the level you describe based on what data I have seen. You are a fool to think it is one single thing causing this. Unless you can show me some charts that prove otherwise.>>517764659There are some companies making money, but on the whole the revenue is not matching what investors are investing at all right now.>>517765191Nvidia is definitely propping up a lot of this, but its more than just Nvidia too, see>>517763440
>>517765589nta obviously. i assume what you're suggesting is that QE money goes into ETFs and artificially bumps the S&P at the cost of more debt?>>517765714it is entirely Nvidia. everything else is illusory. Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Tesla, Netflix, Amazon, Uber, name any gigatech company you want and none of them will survive if Nvidia goes
>>517765714Just go to the M2 money supply and debt on the US FRED statistics. The investments you think are in AI are way overstated. There is a bubble, but the bubble is being driven by debt thanks to mass money printing.>>517765714>There are some companies making money, but on the whole the revenue is not matching what investors are investing at all right now.That's the fundamental problem. There are investments but those investments are all based on debt that hedge funds and other large companies took out with guarantees from the government on top of what's effectively a large bailout by the Trump government for tech companies.It's all a fake and gay house of cards.
>>517765816So if all those other companies went away... who is buying GPUs? No company exists in a vacuum.
>>517765816>nta obviously. i assume what you're suggesting is that QE money goes into ETFs and artificially bumps the S&P at the cost of more debt?Yes. The entire market is driven by debt being gambled into stocks creating a bubble. It has been that way since 2020 when the government started the latest mass printing QE cycle during COVID.
>>517766072>who is buying GPUsYou're obviously not thinking this through at all anon. What happens when investors finally fully realize that the "95% of AI projects are unprofitable" also extends to the TRILLIONS of dollars spent by OpenAI, Microsoft, Facebook, Oracle, etc? Do you honestly believe that AI will ever be able to generate that eye-blistering amount of money? So yes, ask yourself what WILL happen when they stop buying GPUs?
>>517766072>So if all those other companies went away... who is buying GPUs? No company exists in a vacuum.China was a significant customer in the NVIDIA GPU buying spree, but again, that was mostly government funded companies propping up revenue using government funds in a race to have "the best AI" which hasn't materialized in anything significant since most manufacturing factories are automated and the only thing that the bugs had left was slop robots for entertainment.
>>517766611forgot pic related
>>517766115It really seems like Trump has decided that stonks go up is the only thing that matters, no matter how much inflation, how bad unemployment us, or how destructive of a bubble it creates.
>>517765988I did see that. SPY did increase and dip along with that graph, but it has clearly exceeded Feb 2022 even though the money supply is at that level now. Like I said, its combination of all of this not just one thing. We are not printing like we were during covid at all.>>517766611Huh? Where did I make that argument. I'm not talking about any of that at all, friend. My argument is just that based on the numbers SPY is weighted 40% by AI related companies, with Nvidia its self weighting at around 4% I think. I'm just saying Nvidia isn't the only one holding up SPY. Your claim is saying that Nvidia is propping up everything and that is just not true based on stock market data, go do the math your self silly.
>>517767077It's true that Trump wants to have a reputation that "the stock market was great under me". But realistically Trump doesn't run the federal reserve and the Jews who make him do whatever they want for their pet projects like Israel. He's just a puppet at the end of the day.
>>517767336>We are not printing like we were during covid at all.It's growth hidden in leveraged debt. While it's "not the same" as COVID, overnight repo rates have been constantly spiking under Trump and you had massive loans driving most of their growth on top of additional government grants.It's all fake and gay. Meanwhile economic indicators like oil is near pandemic lows, gold is spiking because of all the money printing that just goes straight into the stock market making the illusion of a great economy.
>>517767336it's really not hard to understand anon. AI companies are totally dependent on Nvidia. if Nvidia goes EVERY AI company in the world (which includes every gigatech company on the planet) goes with it. thus Nvidia is the load-bearing company.
>>517763043is that the end game then? they're just finalizing the finishing touches on the automatic survellience tech and then the whole idea of an economy becomes obsolete and unnecessary?
>>517762444>You'd think that with people being deported there would be more jobs, and with the logistical disruption of tariffs, stonks would go down too.Alright, I'm going to drop some knowledge on your kids: our money is inflationary, which means there will be more of it as each day passes. The solution is to then have a dumping ground for the currency, which is also known as the stock market. I hope this helps!
>>517765154why would I ask a bulgarian how the future works. how foolish of me
>>517768702You're asking a nigger anon, but to answer the question the goal of the Jew is to create an automated surveillance system that restricts your movement, can shut off your bank/access to food and water on command, restrict employment, etc. That's through a digital ID. However, that's a different issue entirely and not the current issue of an overinflated market since Jews have been funding their total control through government grants just like Tony Blair's son in the UK.
>>517762444Yes. They gutted the actual american economy decades ago and weve been living on cheap slop and slave labor to keep boomer pensions up ever since. Retards think this is a desirable state to remain in though because otherwise number will go down.
>>517762444Fake jobs are currently evaporating. Weve had a long period of 0% interest cheap investment money. This has made companies keep many people on who are not economically viable. The moment things get touch in this zombie economy a bunch of jobs will evaporate.
>>517768955but if the only thing that brings a profit is this fake bubble... all attention is on AI working itself out. and then....... the rest isn't necessary.until they redirect that Eye of Sauron somewhere else.like pets.com crashed and THEN became amazon, but Mark Cuban made a billion dollars from a million dollar idea in the meantime
>>517767705Then I don't know why you told me to look at the M2 graph as that would not show debt. That makes more sense though and I thought that could be the case, I tried to find some good data on debt but that is a bit harder to get, at least based on what I was searching. Do you know of any sources for that?>>517767717Ahh I see what you are saying, I'm not arguing against that either. I'm talking about SPY weighting really.
>>517762820>>517763440The stock market has seen a lot of valuation expansion. CAPE ratio is above 40 again.But all this asset price inflation had good reason, namely that we live in a new era where fiscal policy has become more important than monetary policy, simply by virtue of size. The stimulus from government debt has outgrown the stimulus from lowering interest and is now so large that it even offset the Fed's attempt at shrinking its balance sheet.With the exception of just 1 or 2 years the US government has "bought" below 3% growth with above 3% deficits every single year since the GFC. It now issues new debt in excess of a trillion $ of per year. This new debt of course represents new money that banks create out of thin air when they accept these repayment pledges and grant the treasury the amount by typing it into their computers.This is just like every other loan in a fiat money system. But it's the size that matters. All this new money leads to asset price inflation.The interesting thing is that now we have a shutdown. The future will be decided on how this will or will not be resolved, precisely because of the current fiscal dominance. Right now the market seems to bet on a fairly quick resolving of the differences, counting on the fact that the longest shutdown ever lasted merely about a month.But if it takes longer this time, or the resolving leads to serious expenditure cutting then stocks will tank.
>>517769423>but if the only thing that brings a profit is this fake bubble... all attention is on AI working itself out. and then....... the rest isn't necessary.>like pets.com crashed and THEN became amazon, but Mark Cuban made a billion dollars from a million dollar idea in the meantimeYou answered your own question anon. Jews make billions off a fake bubble to pad their own wealth, all the while getting government grants and other shit to get their digital ID/surveillance grid. It's all fake and gay with the same goal in mind.
>>517769608It's hard to know the exact figures without going to the private bank balance sheets of JP Morgan, BlackCock, Vanguard etc. Overnight repos are one indicator that the debt currently is not sustainable which is why Trump is running around with a money printer giving Jewish "tech bros" like Larry Ellison infinity funds.
>>517764339Based of some map online that's been debunked a billion times over lol?Why are Indian-heavy towns doing so well in Jersey?
>>517769617>The interesting thing is that now we have a shutdown. The future will be decided on how this will or will not be resolved, precisely because of the current fiscal dominance. Right now the market seems to bet on a fairly quick resolving of the differences, counting on the fact that the longest shutdown ever lasted merely about a month.These shut downs happen almost on a yearly basis though, so all that will happen in the US is that they raise the debt ceiling again and claim they will pay it off by giving infinity dollars to Israel.
>>517770378>Why are Indian-heavy towns doing so well in Jersey?You live 30 Indians to one house, Stink Deep.
>>517770275Trump is going to have us making Soviet jokes.>What did Americans use before candles?>Lightbulbs
>>517770409Most likely, yes. But as they say: "past performance is no guarantee of future results".It's never different this time until it is.
>>517770487Probably not Trump himself, but the next president under Palantir trannies like Karp and Thiel.
>>517770409Maybe they should have thought about it before running a 2T deficit. It really seems like Trump is doing everything possible to wreck the economy. Trying to speedrun Yeltsin's record for wrecked a superpower.Why not just have Powell keep rates high, run an Obama-esque $500-600b range, eat the recession for like a year while blaming Biden? Then after a recovery, finally do your trade war against the world?
>>517770978>Maybe they should have thought about it before running a 2T deficit.You're asking Jews to not Jew. Why are they also speed running the collapse of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and western Europe at the same time with mass money printing, out of control migration, out of control censorship favoring Israel? It's the same people in charge and I think the destruction supersedes Trump.
