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beat up palishits in the streets
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>>517807230
Thanks for the bread.
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>>517807443
big tits are an old woman thing
barely any girls i know my age have tits over ds
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Z
Happy birthday china
May hohols be smothered by 6 million aliexpress drones
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Z
Friendly reminder that our country is hated most by the rootless, the godless, heretics, atheists and mentally ill - most likely because they fear our unprecedented return to traditional values of civilization.

Picrel churches built this century
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>>517807443
modern men no longer desire big breasts
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>>517807642
Accurate
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Do Ukrainians have a Jesus with chub haircut?
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>>517807595
>I don't know why I even bothered writing this, you're clearly not interested in learning anything.
If by "learn" you mean being called names until I agree with the headcannon of some ignorant idiot, then yes, I don't think I'll learn anything.

Bradley front armor is rated for 14.5 mm:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100922154336/http://armedforces-int.com/projects/m2_m3_bradley_fighting_vehicles.html

BPM-2 armor is rated for 23 mm:
https://web.archive.org/web/20070329012749/http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/bmp-2.htm

But for some nerd who want to be right more than he know stuff, the former is more armor than the latter.
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>today I will remind them
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kill all hohols
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>>517807230
Thanks for the bread.
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>>517807746
Wasn't there a review of the Bradley by RuAF guys who captured a Bradley in ukraine? What did they have to say about it?
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>>517807948
NATO cheerleaders (kek, can't believe I'm using the Portuguese's word) and cherry-picking is a match made in heaven. It's a cinderella story. They absolutely have to compare apples to oranges and be as dishonest as possible.

You see, that guy compared a rocket engine from the 70's with a completely different engine from a couple of years ago. It's beyond laughable.
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>>517807746
You are mixing up which of these guns is more dangerous for armor.
23x152B BZT penetration: 15 mm RHA @ 1000 m @ 30°

14.5 × 114 BS penetration: 24 mm RHA @1000 m @ 30°
Besides that you are using the protection level of the M2A0, the amphibious version that saw pretty much no use and was replaced by the no longer but uparmored and upengined M2A1 before being adopted in any significant numbers. Later versions of the M2/M3 quickly got even heavier.
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>>517808461
I don't know, but it would be interesting to see it, far better than see the same German guy scream "it's like this, you agree or you idiot" a dozen times.

Do you have it
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>muh superweapon
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apologize
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>>517808581
So let me see if I got it right, you're trying to say that we must look at some upgraded version of the Bradley and at the baseline BMP-2 because this way you're not wrong. This is quite dishonest.

Also, do you have source for the ammo, it's really annoying to talk to someone who expects whatever he say to be taken for truth.
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Thanks for bread + Z + TDK

Can't wait for the stores to open in 3 hours so I can go buy alcohol
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>>517808535
>cheerkeaders
PORTUGIRL?
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>>517808461
https://t.me/RostislavDDD/2286
Run it through a translator of your choice. I know I had the full document saved, but can't find it right now for some reason.
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>>517807230
Z
Talmud denounced
Blood and Soil
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>>517807823
the gymnastics
>the church guy married a woman
>some butthurt ukranny reported it as stealing woman and her children to ICC
>butthurt ICC "puts arrest on him"
>turkroach runs victory laps
>>LMAO, so you DO admit the "traditional russian orthodox values" is just a front for crooks, thieves and murderers to do their dirty work?!
He took her and her children in and gave them safe sanctuary, what the fuck are you even talking about, why this is a sham, retardio?
>>There's no divorce in the Orthodox Church you stupid moron. They're both grave sinners according to Orthodox theology ... but, in pedorussia anything is possible for a price and for certain people. Your "church" is a sham!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_divorce
literally on your favorite kikepedia, kill yourself
>recognizes divorce as a sad reality due to human failing, permitting remarriage under specific circumstances, such as adultery or abandonment, through a penitential service
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>>517808709
Agent Krasnov-sama, I fvcking kneel
>>517807799
Damn war criminals destroying civilian ammo caches
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>>517808866
Wow, you posted a source, could have done it in the last thread, instead of calling people names non-stop because they asked for sources.
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>>517807632
>Picrel churches built this century
I wonder what happened to the old churches that used to be there
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me after talking to turk for 2 minutes frfr
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>>517808853
He must be seething in a frenzy today, since Russia is sending their own MiG-29s to Iran, alongside cargo ships.
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they made Putin cool again.
Also some observe that eucucks are pretending that they're at war with Russia so they can cease the assets under that pretext.
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>>517807230
Will cucktin ever do something? Ukraine has so many glaring weaknesses he never exploits... Kharkov is right along the border, they could shell it day and night. Train stations and government buildings are untouched everywhere. Transmission lines, command centers, financial centers, all fine also. Will he ever lose patience? I lost mine years ago.

Nothing ever happens?
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>>517809032
I wonder where the people responsible for that went
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>>517808627
why are NAFObabs so obsessed with finding a wunderwaffe?
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Ukrainians are just built different. They give their lives gladly for Zelenskyy to buy more villas.
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>>517808867
my skate shoes mog hers
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>>517809158
Ukraine is just another Russian oblast'. Why would Putin treat his own people badly?
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>domovoy hid my shoes again
Fucks sake I’m tryna go for smoke
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>>517809503
total zigger lies
heroes never die, AFU has Belgorod in its hands
no fuel, no eggs, no ammo, even donkey is gone
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>>517808581
So, again, you are being dishonest by arguing that a round which generates 29,800 Joules of energy “has more penetration” than one that generates 88,900.

It's amazing. Amazing.
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>>517809756
Maybe he has a point, but he's far too hostile, and prefer to call people names non-stop than to post a source and argue on it.
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>>517809741
my cat could beat yours the fuck up
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>>517807595
>The protection level of the BMP-1/2 is equally well known, with armor rated for 23 mm autocannon fire from the front and 7.62 from the sides.
Can You clarify your statement that BMP-2 is not
>a fucking death trap
for infrantry and crew inside?
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>>517809846
He doesn't. He's mixing up different things again. This time it's beyond cherry picking. He's done that three times now. Too bad it ruined the clima. I'm going to fix myself a nice drink so I can get into it.
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>>517808627
nafotroons are scientifically incapable of learning from mistakes
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>>517808846
>So let me see if I got it right, you're trying to say that we must look at some upgraded version of the Bradley and at the baseline BMP-2 because this way you're not wrong. This is quite dishonest.
It's not "some upgraded version" if the M2A1/M3A1 are the models that got produced in relevant numbers just two or so years later, while the M2A0 was abandoned. Be honest, have you ever heard of an amphibious Bradley? And the protection level of that was still better, especially if you move outside of the frontal arc.

>Also, do you have source for the ammo
Christian Koll, Soviet Cannon - Study of Soviet Guns and Ammunition in Calibres 12.7mm to 57mm. You made me get my physical version from the attic. Even wikipedia will have armor penetration tables for this, considering they're extremely widespread calibres.
If you read up on the history of these shells it also makes intuitive sense. The 14.5 was designed as anti tank rifle round, the 23 is a necked out version of it to adopt the cartridge for aircraft cannons, where payload is more important than absurd muzzle velocity. 23 mm also only ever got a solid steel AP round, unlike the tungsten cored 14.5x115 BS round. The Chinese are still working with that caliber, they have a somewhat recent APDS rounds for it that increases armor penetration even further.
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>>517810166
>Even wikipedia will have armor penetration tables for this, considering they're extremely widespread calibres.
Wikipedia's table is different from what you wrote (no source).

It gives:
>ZU-23-2 BZT: Penetration 15 mm RHA at 1000 m range and 30 degree impact angle (from perpendicular
And:
>14.5 × 114 mm: 30–32 mm (1.2–1.3 in) of RHA steel at an incidence of 0 degrees at a range of 500 m

Also, how about you post a link, for a chance? I'm kinda tired of asking only to get the headcanon of some random kraut.
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>>517810166
>Moved the goalposts to anti-armor now that he can't argue about what he did previously
At least the mutts are funny when they do it.
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>>517808461
>What did they have to say about it?
Much better (accurate) cannon than 2A42 with better thermals put on much more stabile platform and you get much better vehicle to suport your infrantry against enemy infrantry,also if you get rid of spare TOW missiles that should be transported inside it is much harder to be blown up like batlle mage
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>>517810608
Despite being hostile, incapable of sourcing anything, and generally an idiot. He may have a point that 14.5 mm rounds may have a better penetration than 23 mm rounds.

A shame this argument will end here unless he learns to have a minimum of manners and to link a source when asked.
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Why is it that only Black Men with BBCs truly conquered russia, I guess the Jews did too, either way russia Lost
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>>517810166

stupid niggers dont care that you got now AI moderators policing just like on jewtube

rather a nogun germ and a tanklet macaco are copypasting shit off söypedia that cites sources from US department of troons
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>>517811083
I only got banned once, and it was for doxxing someone.
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>>517810109
>scientifically incapable
To be fair their 'science' database is just copium citing copium, even David Petraeus goes on about naval wunderwaffen.
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>>517811191
why ban a monkey ? just get rid of the voice and others wont even notice Oy Vey !
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>>517810726
It depends on the ammo type. BZT and others are specifically anti-armor bullets. MDZ isn't. So, again, it's comparing apples to oranges. Nonetheless, it doesn't change that the older 23 mm is far more powerful because of energy and velocity.
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>>517811203
Considering the fact that these failed fucks thought that updoots on plebbit would win a war, I'm not surprised.
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>>517811285
It's very easy to post stuff and get banned, I just don't get why someone would take pride on doing it on purpose.

>>517811301
I guess this German guys is honest, just very hostile and retarded on how to talk about his stuff. Such a sad case.
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With the recent wsj article, it is pretty certain the Ukraine will send a few missiles towards the Kremlin.

The only response in that scenario should be nuking kiev, and sending a bunch of Oreshniks to NATO bases in Germany and Poland.

Putin needs to realize he is dealing with literal demons, they won’t stop until they get severely punished.
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>>517811396
>It's very easy to post stuff and get banned, I just don't get why someone would take pride on doing it on purpose.
So jannies banned you because I started to mock goreleaf when he raided the thread. Those days were horrible.

>I guess this German guys is honest
The only chance of being honest that he has is that he's honestly parroting NATO gibberish. I was only waiting to see if the usual blabbering about the M242 Bushmaster autocannon would start.
>I-it's a tank killer
>What do you mean it hits T-72 tanks several times on video while doing nothing? NATO made it! It has to be good! It's wunderwaffe from the 80's!
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>>517811626
it's normal to have your capital bombed during war. Moscow survived worse before stop coping tranny
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>>517811626
You didn't ask, but my age old response to Tomahawks hitting targets in Russia is a drone wave to destroy Rzészow airport. In fact, it would be better to hit the Globemasters bringing weapons to that air field.
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>>517811626
>The only response in that scenario should be
Defeating NATO is enough of a response.
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>>517811749
Bruh trying to assassinate the Russian President will warrant a nuclear response. What else are Russia’s nukes for?

Tomahawks aren’t a “game changer”, ukraine isn’t going to get any territory back, however tomahawks being fired at Moscow is a step up in the escalation ladder.
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>>517811706
I think the German is in this one, this doesn't make the way he behaves any less shitty.
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>>517807230
He was right, Stalin was right. A real Ukrainian hero
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>>517811822
If American missiles are being fired at Kremlin, then that is a severe provocation. This would be a challenge to Russia’s nuclear doctrine, and hence I believe the response would have to be a nuke being dropped on kiev.
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>>517812105
I don't take lightly when retards start cursing you.
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>>517812240
The idea behind a provocation is to provoke your enemy to take an action that benefits you, doing a response to a provocation is the losing move.
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>>517812346
Doing the expected response to a provocation is a losing move
FTFY
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Ukraine try to assassinate trump and yank did nothing, is trump a cuck? Kekaroooooo!!!!
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>>517812571
>cuckaroo

The normies think TACO stands for Trump always chickens out, but it really stands for cucks, obviously.
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>>517809756
Yes, muzzle energy is the best predictor of penetration capability of a round. That's why everyone is still shooting solid shot at each other, instead of saboted darts with a fraction of the energy.

>>517810344
30 mm/tan(30°) is going to come out to 20ish mm. I gave you a source, download it from libgen or annas archive. I also gave you an excerpt of the recent Russian Bradley trials that unsurprisingly stated the same regarding protection level.

>>517809970
Armor isn't going to help against drones, ATGMs, mines, artillery, and getting stuck in mud because your vehicle is heavy as fuck will make you more vulnerable to all of these. It's a tradeoff, and the Soviets went with a lighter, more cross country capable and amphibious vehicle with anticipation for battlegrounds in continental Europe, not sandwar safaris.

>>517811301
14.5 mm and 23×152mmB entered service in the same year. Armor is explicitly rated against the AP projectiles, no rigid core ones being available means they work with what's there.
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>>517812792
>30 mm/tan(30°) is going to come out to 20ish mm.
Some more headcanon, no trace of source.
>I gave you a source, download it from libgen or annas archive.
This sort of arrogance makes you insufferable, I'm done with you, you can repeat your personal views and cry "it's a fact" to yourself.
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>>517812346
What else would you suggest the Russians do then?

When ATACAMs were fired into Kursk, we saw an Oreshnik being dropped on Dnipro. If Tomahawks are fired on Moscow, then the only proportionate response would be a nuke on bankova in kiev.
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More pro-Russia protests in Alaska today, even bigger than the previous three days. MSM is shutting down all information as usual, but we are ready to rejoin the Federation!
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So is Putin gonna give Houthis Oinks or not?
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>>517812892
>What else would you suggest the Russians do then?
Not play the NATO game of "you need to pose as strong and win PR points" is a good start. Giving up real gains on the battlefield to seek PR stunts is the worse move possible.
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>>517812792
The myth of german mathematical competence.
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>>517812999
For some reason this is the third German who acts like this, making claims, calling people who don't agree with the claims just made up all sort of names, and then try to act as arrogantly as possible, thinking this makes the claim he just made up more believable.

I'm starting to believe this is simply how Germans are taught to behave.
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I bet Orange Nigger will get the Nobel Peace Prize, simply because he did the kike's and warmonger's bidding. Don't forget that Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize too. Venezuela and Iran will be bombed in the background while Trump gets his award
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I'm reading that the EU has sent around 4 billion Euros to Ukraine out of what was supposed to be Russian money in shifty Euro banks. Then their speaking of building a "drone wall". So, let me get this straight, they don't have enough money to fund Ukraine, or perhaps pay for (((American manufacturers))) to sell WunderWaffe™, so they steal a customers money out of their own banks...Are they going to gibs all the Ukrainians that abandoned their own country to move to theirs pickle jars and call it a "drone wall"? Hell, can they even afford the pickle jars?
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>>517812998
How would Russia give up their territorial gains in eastern ukraine if they drop a nuke on kiev?

Perceptions matter in the real world, eventually the Russians need to show the west there are consequences for their actions. If Russians don’t retaliate directly then the west will just keep pushing the envelope.
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>>517813298
PR points don't matter, and Russia will not do what NATO wants and start paying the PR game.
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>>517812890
>Some more headcanon
I'm pretty sure basic trigonometry is taught in 5th grade in Brazil too.
>This sort of arrogance
Even if touching a book might frighten you, referring to one isn't arrogant. Or you just go with the Russian evaluation of the vehicle.

>>517812999
It's going to be a close enough estimate. Rounds generally don't lose more than 10-20ish % of LoS thickness penetration compared to 90° at such shallow angles.

>>517813094
Maybe it just keeps happening to you because you say stupid shit and then dig your heels in. Proud of my countrymen if they called you out on it too.
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>>517813606
>Even if touching a book might frighten you, referring to one isn't arrogant. Or you just go with the Russian evaluation of the vehicle.
>Maybe it just keeps happening to you because you say stupid shit and then dig your heels in. Proud of my countrymen if they called you out on it too.
So, are you ready to have a civil conversation, or acting like a human is a bit too much for the kraut?

>Rounds generally don't lose more than 10-20ish % of LoS thickness penetration compared to 90° at such shallow angles.
And it seems source is "I made it up" again...
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Z
I denounce the Talmud
good day /chug/

I luv orecunnyk
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>>517796675
>Germany reports the drones incursions are NOT of Russian origin
give me a QRD
I leave just for two days and there's a new happening (by "happening" I mean another nothing burger)

>>517800346
>Shit’s happening
nothing is happening
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foxcracy soon
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>>517813880
Based
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>>517812951
HE BAЛЯЙ ДУPAКA, AMEPИКA!
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Can Tomahawks or ATACAMs carry nukes? If not, nuking Kiev is not a proportional response. Dropping some heavy Ordinance on NATO command and control centers in Poland or Romania, or shooting down some of those fancy ISR planes or satellites would be proportional I think, not that no matter what the Russians do NATO won't find a way to escalate further.
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Is this thing about long range strikes true?
WSJ lies a lot.
Are we heading towards nuclear war?
I kind of think it's not true but I just don't know anymore desu.
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>>517813606
>Proud of my countrymen if they called you out on it too.
Oh, you should be proud, he kept saying London has more Muslims than Russia, and calling all sort of names when people didn't brought his "facts".

Remember me a lot of you.
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Okay seriously, how fucking hard is it for the gorilla niggers in /uhg/ to just POST A FUCKING LINK. They do this shit constantly, they’ll post these heavily cropped headlines with no source and then I have to go around trying to figure out where this shits coming from so I can see if it’s even a legitimate source. The last time I asked them they just straight up lied to me about the source and made me waste time checking TASS for a headline that didn’t exist. It looks like WSJ so it’s probably just some fearmongering nonsense, but why even make me guess when they could simply post a link or provide a source?

Anyways, right now their head canon is that /chug/ is suicidal because trump turned against Putin. The best part is one guy literally admits he doesn’t know if that true or not because /chug/ triggers him so much he won’t look inside. I’m not joking, you can check for yourself. 90 percent of the posts are just them crying about /chug/, Russians, and god knows what else. It’s still an improvement over the bot they’ve had bumping their threads with random twitter posts, but not by much. Oh and that mentally ill canadian mulatto got unbanned again so he’ll probably come over here and have another melty, he really needs to see a doctor.
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>>517814407
>Okay seriously, how fucking hard is it for the gorilla niggers in /uhg/ to just POST A FUCKING LINK
Some people are just incapable of posting a link, /uhg/ seems to be filled with this kind.
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>>517813606
I have no idea what you're arguing about, but 30/tan(30) is not '20ish'. Unless your acceptable error for this calculation is >100%.
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>>517814468
He's using basic trigonometry, and pretending this is how armor works.
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>>517813742
A civil discussion isn't possible if you refuse to source any of your own claims and ask for sources on trivial or at least easily googled baseline knowledge.
>And it seems source is "I made it up" again
Case in point. Why would you ask for a source for this? Throwing "penetration chart x caliber"" into a search engine takes seconds, then pick one that includes angles. The chart obviously lists plate thickness, so you'll have to calculate line of sight thickness from that and the angle.
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>>517814468
You're right. 15 mm/tan(30) is, which was the plate thickness in question. Accidentally typed the angle twice.
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>>517814582
>A civil discussion isn't possible if you refuse to source any of your own claims
Wow, now this is being dishonest, you make up claims, you refuse to post a single source, and you even try to claim it was me who did it?

I know Germans are famous for being midwits who have too much hubris to argue, but you're are special.

>Why would you ask for a source for this? Throwing "penetration chart x caliber"" into a search engine takes seconds, then pick one that includes angles.
Because I like to see a little guy who is making up stuff give excuse after excuse on why he'll not source anything he's inventing, nothing say "I'm wrong, but I'll double down" better than making long post after long post explaining why you must be right and yet cannot post a single source.
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>>517814301

There won't be Nuclear war unless the demons in Washington are truly unhinged and I don't think they are, yet. Personally I think both sides would escalate MUCH further with conventional means before nukes ever get involved. The second a single nuke is launched is game over for both sides. I think both sides would tolerate millions of casualties and trillions of destroyed equipment before nukes get seriously thought about. MAYBE a tac nuke gets launched by a sub at a carrier group.
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>>517814466
I think part of it is /uhg/ relies on very “”creative”” sources for their claims, so actually providing those sources directly would discredit them. They used to link Moscow times a lot, claiming it was a Russian source, but people caught on to that one pretty fast. If people realized half the stuff they claim just comes from random twitter accounts and MSNBC then far fewer people would take them seriously. The other part is they’re some of the laziest people on the site, they can’t even be fucked to proofread their threads, let alone check the newsfeed for double posts. Most of their energy goes towards spamming the same exact thread 100+ times a day. Like, they’ll just post “Russia is le bad” then some random video of a dude being killed or a super cropped news article, then immediately ditch the thread and make a new one.
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>>517814739
Calm down, chico.
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>Buncha cowboys
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>>517814857
>Moscow times a lot, claiming it was a Russian source
KEK! Did niggers really?
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>>517814857
These people have a narrative inside their head, and seem to honestly believe that as long as something agrees with the narrative, it must be right.

But it's always fun to ask for source and get long excuses and being called names.
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>>517812571
>Ukraine try to assassinate trump
Ukraine its a same zhid that is holding drumpf by his balls with firm grip of pipstain hand.
>hrukanda is destinated to be spare jizrael
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>>517814742
>Wow, now this is being dishonest, you make up claims, you refuse to post a single source, and you even try to claim it was me who did it?
You started this by claiming the Bradley was a copy of the BMP-2. You claimed it's not armored better despite being twice the weight. You provided exactly one source for this, which stated the opposite of your point.
>Because I like to see a little guy who is making up stuff give excuse after excuse on why he'll not source anything he's inventing, nothing say "I'm wrong, but I'll double down" better than making long post after long post explaining why you must be right and yet cannot post a single source.
If you slept through school don't know how to calculate the sides of a triangle you could've just said so. Or you don't even want to look at sources for trivial shit even when they're spoonfed to you. Either option is embarrassing.
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>>517815116
Source?
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>>517814767
I see. But are they really going to do long range strikes? Are we really going to get even more involved in the Ukraine after we were promised the opposite?
Also if it happens, what will Russia do in response.
Thank you.
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>>517814957
>>Moscow times a lot, claiming it was a Russian source
>KEK! Did niggers really?
their proud creator claimed that ISW was a neutral source
yes, the same ISW that said putler ordered his troops to "not lose", to give the illusion that they are not losing during the 2023 counter-hruk

pic related
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>>517815160
>You started this by claiming the Bradley was a copy of the BMP-2.
Oh my liar friend, I said they have similar parameters, do you really need to invent little lies and put their on my mouth to argue?

>You claimed it's not armored better despite being twice the weight.
And I remember, when I didn't agree with this claim you just made up, you started your little break down.

>You provided exactly one source for this, which stated the opposite of your point.
You didn't replied or said anything about sources, are you really making up stuff as you go, like pretending you said what you did?

>If you slept through school don't know how to calculate the sides of a triangle you could've just said so.
The problem is that I'm not a German midwit to think that armor penetration on armor behaves like basic trigonometry. Seriously, do seriously believe armor on angle behaves like this?
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>>517814407
Don't interact with /ugh/.
Even if you were pro-ukraine, that general would be worthless.
It has no information, just shitposting. Anything that makes Russia look remotely bad, even if it's fake as fuck, is fair game for them. Make up some bullshit and post there. Your bullshit will be reposted there for weeks.
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>>517814407
>elect new president
>nothing really changes, just the pace
Many such cases
>>517815116
>>517814411
uoh
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anatomy of a gamer's gf - orenji
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>>517814301
>The United States has launched twenty-five tomahawk cruise missiles from Ukrainian territory toward Russian population centers. Inbounds are assessed as nuclear. A counterforce nuclear response against the United States is hereby authorized.
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>>517815160
So you tell me, why did you Googled the first image related to >>517814582 armor penetration, one that doesn't mention angle of impact and is limited only to .50?

Can you explain what this image shows, or did you just picked the first image you saw on Google and claimed "it proves me right"?
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>>517815519
much obliged
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>>517815481
>uoh
no uoh'ing in this bread
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>>517815394
>And I remember, when I didn't agree with this claim you just made up, you started your little break down.
You made the initial statement. It's your job to proof it.
>You didn't replied or said anything about sources, are you really making up stuff as you go, like pretending you said what you did?
So only others should have to substantiate their statements?
>The problem is that I'm not a German midwit to think that armor penetration on armor behaves like basic trigonometry. Seriously, do seriously believe armor on angle behaves like this?
I don't believe it, I know that the LoS penetration loss at 30 ° is generally fairly small. I also just posted an image with .50 penetration testing that demonstrates that. Which you ignored, off course.
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So what the news
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>>517815899
>You made the initial statement. It's your job to proof it.
Then start by not putting words in my mouth, I know it's easier to be right when you invented claims and pretend others said it only so you can prove them wrong, but I'm not German, I don't like this sort of dishonest behavior.

>So only others should have to substantiate their statements?
There's a difference, I post links for good sources while you have a breakdown saying "Case in point. Why would you ask for a source for this? Throwing "penetration chart x caliber"" into a search engine takes seconds, then pick one that includes angles." and posting an unrelated image trying to pretend it proves you right.

>I don't believe it, I know that the LoS penetration loss at 30 ° is generally fairly small.
And here the guy who really likes to make up stuff, makes up some more stuff.
>I also just posted an image with .50 penetration testing that demonstrates that. Which you ignored, off course.
Have you read your image? It shows a +40% decrease on penetration, not your little made up numbers.
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>>517815596
It explicitly shows penetration at angles selection of impact angles between 70° and 0°. I don't know what part of that chart needs explaining.
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>>517816159
It shows a +-40% loss of penetration at 30º, 16.51 / 26.67 = 61.9%

Do you realize that the first image you got from Google show your claims or "generally fairly small" wrong?
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>>517815253

>Long range strikes

Personally I think they will, if only for the sole purpose of analyzing how Russia responds. The people making these decisions have not as if yet had to suffer any consequences for their actions, so as far as they believe, the benefits gained outweigh any response they believe Russia would do.

> What would Russians do.

A direct attack on the capital would be a very serious escalation on the Russian side, in their view. I have no clue what their response would be though. Part of me think they will retaliate with escalation but another part says they will keep any response muted. It's not good position to be in.
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>went over to my aunt and uncle’s house
>they have a little globe
>look at map of the Ukraine
>it says Kiev
hehehehe
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>>517816185
Feet pics
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>>517816086
>invented claims
You claimed the Bradley is armored worse.
>I post links for good sources
That source opposes your point, we had that already.
>posting an unrelated image trying to pretend it proves you right.
It shows exactly what you asked for, that LoS penetration does not significantly decrease at relatively steep angles.
>Have you read your image? It shows a +40% decrease on penetration, not your little made up numbers.
Read the entire post. That's plate thickness, not LoS thickness. I already posted how you calculate LoS thickness from that for the 23 mm example, divide it by tan(angle)
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>>517816321
So then is Trump officially going back to the Biden agenda for Ukraine after pretending otherwise for several months?
How is this going to end? I know that Russia will win in Ukraine but then how will western globalists proceed from there?
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>>517816852
>Read the entire post. That's plate thickness, not LoS thickness. I already posted how you calculate LoS thickness from that for the 23 mm example, divide it by tan(angle)
Kek, now you want me to ignore the chart because it disagree with your headcanon and accept that "iT's JuSt BaSiC tRiGoNoMeTrY".

And you even try to project here:
>That source opposes your point, we had that already.

It's almost 6Am in Germany, and you seems to lie every single time you believe you can get away with it, seriously can you please try to not backpedal and lie so much?
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>>517815774
Who was in the wrong here?
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>>517817024
I fell asleep. Sorry. I'm going to read it.
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>>517817286
Don't waste your time, the German posted the first image on good, it showed data different from him and he crying only his made up "facts" are real, I filtered him.
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kill all hohols ASAP
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Qrd on france seizing a russian oil tanker?
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Syria's Cucklani soldiers got arrested and stripped down by the IDF lol
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>>517817353
I meant for your reply to me that went unanswered. I tried hard not to sleep. Queria ficar mais tempo com você e te acompanhar em vez de dormir. But it seems that this retard is coping with the same tactics of backtracking, mixing up different things, then doubling down.
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>>517817535
The worse part is that this could have been fun and nice, if he know how to behave like a human, instead of a kraut animal.

Dorme bem, até amanhã e se cuida, tento entrar mais cedo.Tchau
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>>517817623
Fica só mais 5 minutos.
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>>517817569
>in the media
oh wow
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Another day, another redline.

Cucktin must be having his usual impotent manlet fit
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>>517817024
No, I don't want you to ignore the chart. The numbers are given in plate thickness, just like they were for the penetration of the 23 mm round you posted here >>517810344
Calculating LoS thickness only comes in for making rough comparisons for data acquired at different angles.
>And you even try to project here:
I don't think you know what project means. And the source plainly states that the Bradley is better protected, even in the amphibious version that saw next to no use.
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>>517808867
Gott, i love braun girls
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>>517817595
they're arr rook the same
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>>517817656
Nós dois precisamos dormir, vai logo que estou indo agora. Se cuida.
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>>517817771
Foram 3 minutos a mais então. Tá ótimo. :)
Obrigado por esse reply. Boa noite, dorme bem.
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>>517807712
>blasphemy
>Raytheon ad
>Ukraina
>Now in Globohomo-haus style!
Thanks, I hate it.
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NATO leaders are tryharding the scenario where they can initiate the war to kill the increasingly angry local, native population and blame it on Russia.
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>>517817707
Why do they say "For the first time"? Biden administration and France and UK all did long range missile strikes on Russia last year. Donald Trump even said it was a stupid mistake at the time.
Why is WSJ lying about this
Is this report true at all?
WSJ cannot be trusted.
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Bros I'm afraid nuclear war is inevitable. It's over
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>>517818064
For many reasons. It makes the attack seem like a deserved retribution, it makes it look like Russia will face real consequences for the first time, it justifies their money laundering, it distracts people from keep connecting dots on Israel, etc.
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>>517818277
I hope that the whole report is a lie. Also Donald Trump already hates WSJ. If it is a lie this would be a great opportunity for Trump to punish WSJ (they are scum).
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>>517807632
>building places of jewish worship in 21st century
How is deevolving from bolshevism back to judeo-christianity better? Real Russian nationalists worship Slavic gods
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>>517818008
they want to steal russian assets, they went from coalition of the willing to this.
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>>517818428
Trump is objectively keeping the effort in Ukraine. Weapons and money are getting there thanks to his direct and indirect involvement. Even if it is a lie, it doesn't change the result, as they will keep shilling the involvement the conflict, will keep legitimizing the crap with catchy phrases like "sending intelligence only bro!" or "it is just a sanction package™ bro!", as they are making the bed for the goycattle to sleep on it after they're done milking you dry
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>>517817394
>Qrd on france
Frogs ascended to buthurtbelters lvl
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Been going thru old Russian propaganda posters and found this gem. What does this say?
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>>517815494
>2025
>people still don't understand exposure on cheap cameras
i guess you also think a nuke went off when you take an indoor photo and the window light looks all blown out to the point where you can't see any outside details? that video is literally just an explosion on the ground, the light gets reflected on the cloud above, but because it's night and the cameras exposure was adjusted for night it creates a massively overbright spot above it because cheap cameras don't auto expose quickly.
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Special deNATOfication operation of.
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>>517818457
They're making the groundwork, and europeans are going to die, willingly or reluctantly, as their authorities hate them with a passion and milk them without compassion. Breaking point is near, so of course war becomes nearer.
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>>517807230
Total Alya love!
Z
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>>517819164
They're not even pretending to be ready for war.
Next escalation step is going to be boots on the ground in ukraine or some kind of no-fly zone over western ukraine, shit like this.
It's not going to be full blown war with nukes
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>>517818977
"Yid is the infection of the nation."
It's either in old russian or in some other related language.
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>>517819302
>some kind of no-fly zone over western ukraine
There already is
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>>517818444
Real russian nationalists converted to Christianity a thousand years ago. You shouldn't use the word deevolving if you simultaneously refuse to open a history book...
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>>517817232
the brats, obviously
hanging around gamer territory, they were begging to be corrected
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>>517819369
Based, ty
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>>517819302
>It's not going to be full blown war with nukes
This is my take too. The war's only purpose is to kill europeans, and they need to change the focus of their hatred towards Russia. Then, it gets peer enforced, then they die. Even on a flip flop situation where a glorious leader deals peace, it becomes worthless crap, because the same corruption keeps festering on the marrow. Kike exhaustion is trascending
>>517819570
Gamers are too powerful, in words and taste
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fucking jadnigger awoke from his long slumber and is fucking around in the catalogue, kek
he *still* hasn’t emigrated tho
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>>517819429
no there isn't
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>>517819505
>Russian with lowercase r
>christcuckery with capital c
Tells me all I need to know
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>>517819505
>Real russian nationalists converted to Christianity a thousand years ago.
They're dead now.
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>>517819619
Doesn't mean its going to be a success but they surely will try to put boots on the ground, they're not going to draft EU fags there, just regular army.
Honestly it's going to be a disaster and a spectacle
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>>517818444
>judeo-christianity
Made up term popularized by American Protestshit Zionists in 20th century
Many Christians, even Saints, believed the Protocols to be real like Fr Seraphim Rose and St Paisios.
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>>517819619
>The war's only purpose is to kill europeans,
No Europeans on both sides currently

>>517819730
Christianity in my sentence is a noun, russian an adjective (like russian language). I refuse to capitalise adjectives like a pleb while writing in a germanic language (hurr he didn't capitalize germanic he must hate Germans too111)
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>>517817569
oh my ummah

>>517818064
>Why do they say "For the first time"? Biden administration and France and UK all did long range missile strikes on Russia last year
everything happens """for the first time""" or is """the biggest one yet""" when you have the memory of a goldfish

CEM was posting about how this year russia had the biggest draft for mandatory military service since the start of the SMO
that was a lie, they had a bigger draft in 2024 with 160k, but no one remembers that
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>>517819760
So we should get rid of our country too?
what kind of stupid logic is that
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>>517819729
Because they can't implement one. Russia doesn't really fly jets over West Ukraine. They just use drones and missiles which NATO can do nothing about.
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>>517819899
does it matter when they worship a dead jew
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>>517819899
Its a religion made up by kikes so its judeo-christianity
>>517819930
You don't need to justify to me why you love christ more than your nation, I already know how you cucks work
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>>517820029
the idea is to put air defense systems and fly jets over ukraine to deal with drones and missiles launched at it.
I want them to try that to see hohols "intercepting" these jets kek
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>>517819993
No, you should get rid of kike influence and traditions
Reinstate the old Gods and give children only Slavic names instead of hebrew
Follow the ideology of real nationalists not the civic kosher faggots
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>>517820298
Again, anon, they can't. That's the only reason they haven't tried. They know they can't. They simply do not have the ability.

That is the real reason. It's why they aren't already involved in this, despite all the claims they've been making for 2 years now.
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>>517820366
>>517820224

Great idea so we can become like India
truly a much better perspective
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>>517820426
just use your imagination,
Even if they can't doesn't mean they won't
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>>517819429
Who wants to get shot down in a Ukrainian false flag?
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>>517820518
What India has to do with Slavic gods you fucking kike?
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>>517817569
damn this was almost a year ago now
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>>517820671
Read a book
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>>517820643
They don't send drones there anymore
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>>517820213
>1pbtid
Ok pajeet

>>517820224
It’s a religion created by Israelites, not edomites
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>>517820706
Stop being a retard.
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>>517820742
You are talking to a guy with a "0 IQ" id mind you
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>>517820742
>not liking jews makes me indian
Makes sense, kike.
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Good view from Lahkta tower bro...
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gm, ily boys. let's have a good day. death to all 3D women
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>>517820742
Were all of them kikes? Yes they were. What has some ancient shit in a kike desert that happened 2000 years ago to do with us today? Nothing. Its a kike bullshit scheme that went too far and spread out like cancer
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>>517820800
You can go back to worshiping Baal, Saturn, Ishtar, Yahweh or what ever name you want to use without trying to LARP as a pagan, just say you are a Jew.

I will stay worshiping Eloh the Creator (Jesus).
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>>517820918
are your neighbours all like this?
while simultaneously writing serbian in latin script
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>>517820811
They are well poisoners
Imagine supporting Russia and hating Christianity, meanwhile Russia is a true Christian nation, unlike Am*rica
Because of the Orthodox Church, Russia banned Transgender surgeries and Satanism
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I'm jewish.
I support the Ukraine in this conflict.
Even if you manage to win you will forever be shunned by the world. Actually, if you somehow manage to pull off a good deal by the end of this you will always be seen as a threat to be disposed and wary of at best.
A blight to be eliminated at the first chance.
No amount of seethe will get you recognized by the world as a civilized country.
No i don't denounce the Talmud.
Enjoy your miserable lives.
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>>517820813
Yeah sure, I’m a kike for following the man that literally called them the Synagogue of Satan numerous times
Makes sense, Pajeet.
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>>517821021
You can't "murder" a subhuman vatnik spawn.
At best animal abuse or negligence.
May this russian animal piss in hell or wherever they go.
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>>517820551
>i can't climb that mountain
>doesn't men i won't!
No, they can't and they know it, so, no, they are not going to try. It's just sabre-rattling.
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>>517820918
Kek what a deflection
>y-youre a kike for calling me out for worshiping a dead kike!!!
Btw some of the names of our Gods are Perun, Veles and Svarog you subhuman piece of shit, not the crap you named
Oh and Yahweh is the god you christcucks worship lmao
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>>517821188
translate pls
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>>517821091
We are just critical thinkers, christcuckery makes you docile and dumb
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>Iryna Zarutska's Murder Video::::
>"May this russian animal piss in hell"
>iryna
>russia
lol
is the bot malfunctioning?
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>>517821304
Kek he needs his Demon daddies in order to retain his masculinity and testosterone. Will you also put little babies in the oven in order to learn what you Baal will tell you to do in your life?
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Our Aryan princess Greta is probably being groped by a filthy jewess right now. My blood is boiling.
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>>517821091
I can tell you more. Orthodoxy has kept our language alive, which carries the old traditions anyway. Meanwhile in places like Poland or Czechia, they were forced to latinize which meant their national consciousness was much weaker and they were more susceptable to germanisation. Eg when the Czechs realised that they were vanishing slowly, they rebelled (Jan Hus) - but not against Christianity, but against Catholicism and german nobility... They then translated the bible to czech and essentially went back to glagotitsa and (not knowing) orthodox rites, not to paganism which was long forgotten even in 15th century
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>>517820978
Yea, they are our version of hohols.
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>>517821497
tfw
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>>517807230
Morning anon. Reporting gains.
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>>517821155
Even a broken clock is right two times a day. He was still a jew himself
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>>517821155
>kike insults other kikes
>this makes him le based!
lmao. And only jeets don't like kikes, somehow
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>>517821452
>a lot of delusional shit that has nothing to do with reality
You are underage or severely retarded?
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>>517821483
Interesting. Thanks for the history lesson.
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>>517821497
Shoulda killed more of ‘em.
Arkan did nothing wrong.
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>I'm a kike
>memeflag
We know, kys
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ALERT
>ALERT
ALERT
>ALERT
Kike spread hate and disinformation! This guy need to be punish for attacking innocent local merchant with crucifixion!
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>>517821460
same. i hope she's ok
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>tfw no new videos of bradleys getting blown up in over a month
hurry up drumpf, send moar
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>>517821460
Hopefully one with big khazar milkers. The juxtaposition of tits would be a nice a sight.
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>>517821753
Yes I've read lots about slavic nations lately and their historical fates.

Also interesting to read about Obodrites, who were a western slavic tribe in modern north Germany. Quite the powerhouse in early medievals, they eg raided and destroyed the biggest viking fort in Norway (muh superior aryan pvgan uberman), even resisted Charlemagne. However Christianity never reached them, they remained pagan. As a result they isolated even further and split and infought (obodrites vs ljutich iirc) without modernising and learning from the christian world and feudalism, until they essentially were absorbed by christian Germans and christian Poles. Now they're extinct
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>this should be an uneven fight...
>russian 5th tank brigade out front attacking with 3 battalions, from the low ground, without secure supply lines...
>vs

>110th AFU brigade with 7 fresh rearmed battalions dug in with support of the 17th and 20th corps..
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>>517822155
What's the famous plan that david d always talk?
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>deep state update
ROUGH.
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>>517822155
I can bet this "fresh" brigade hasn't been off the frontline for 2 years
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>>517822206
the great encirclement plan, 8th this time
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i cant live that way. give me back my qt lil singing birb. pls

https://files.catbox.moe/q9abwz.mp3
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>>517822206
the total hohol annihilation one
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>>517822218
It's actually funny that their map is going to permanently show that situation for a period of 2 months. You'd think if they were actually encircled like that that they would have collapsed long ago
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>>517822286
So he is saying that Russia is pushing with 1/2 amount of Brigades

lmao
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>>517822257
I'm an ugly fat pig, what can I do to make myself even uglier.

Oh I know, cover myself with tattoos and do a buzz cut.
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чyх чyх чyх чyх чyх чyх чyх чyх чyх اللتي please
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>>517822389
Kill yourself faggot.
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>>517822453
Sorry sir didn't know that was (You).
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>>517822286
>>517822388
happens when you have a lot of understrength units vs a smaller number of well equipped units
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Lmao
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oh yeah...awkward new turbo retard shill on a mission
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Hey memeflag spammer? Do you just not realise that Ukraine is equally, if not more Jewish? Or are you trying to say that the side with a jewish leader and Isreali support are totally NatSoc?
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oh sheet lool
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>>517822286
Have any of the encirclements happened yet, or are they all still just plans?
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Someone is seething... happens when you cant achieve a single victory for 3 years with the NATO help
Better luck on the next life!
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>>517822688
nono you don't realise
these people are the true RVS
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>>517817394
>Qrd on france seizing a russian oil tanker?
The mass hysteria about the drones in Denmark was about two things: creating hysteria and provide a subterfuge for seizing more Russian ships.

Allegedly this ship was involved in the Danish incident, despite the Germans already confirming publicly that the drones have nothing to do with Russia.
France wants to "conduct their own investigation", so they start with piracy on thehigh seas.

The oil was heading for India, but European waters nowadays are more risky than the gulf of Aden.
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>>517822764
No. Though they are still trying to claim one in porkroast despite having nothing to back it up.
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>anti-Christian posters leave
>in comes (((memeflag))) and starts spamming le jewtin meme
I’m starting to nootice
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>>517822905
>same old stuff
Kike shills are so low quality these days
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>>517822808
It's so tiresome. They were vassals of so many different cultures and religions. And yet they choose to larp as people who originally came down from the Novgorod area
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>>517817394
Not being insured in London is a war crime now.
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>>517814162
>Can Tomahawks or ATACAMs carry nukes?
Yes, no
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Glowing too hard my nigga
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>>517822966
it's not enough for them to larp as PVC
they want us all to larp as moscovites too
otherwise it breaks their immersion lol
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>517822997
Unalive yourself
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Total Zigger Death (TZD)
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>>517814407
>The best part is one guy literally admits he doesn’t know if that true or not because /chug/ triggers him so much he won’t look inside
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Total Kike Death (TKD)
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migrate
>>517823081
>>517823081
>>517823081
>>517823081
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>>517822905
Can you imagine, people go by their own businesses instead of fulfilling expectations of paranoid retards
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>>517823056
In a certain sense, the Russian empire is a successor of the Moscovite principlaity.
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>>517817569
Stance in the media status?
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>>517822962
The moscow kremlin was built in the 900s though?
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>>517822155
>7 fresh brigades
>look inside
>2 battalions
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>>517823259
however most of our people don't live in Moscow
moscovite means inhibitor of Moscow
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I do not know why shill are even trying if Russia has already lost.
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>>517823422
That is true. Or inhabitant of the principality at least.
In either case, the Russian identity is kind of like the German in so far as there existed a sense of shared culture due to a dialect continum theoughout the east slavic lands.
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>>517823566
Before the Russiab state



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