t. CS major senior who can hardly find a full time job
skill issue, CS is a retarded major and the field is oversaturated. should’ve studied a real science
>>517841291White collar recession for sure.There's no need for white collar work when your lower class is all niggers. And with everyone and their mother trying to be white collar, no one is meeting the needs that blue collar provides. Therefore, white collar goes into recession.
>>517841291>>517841389Skill issue. A surprising amount of CS graduates can't explain what a race condition is or write a simple sorting algorithm.
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>>517841291It's not your fault, CS fren. It is a combination of "Stock Price Valuations Above Everything," millions of Indians onshored (and OFFshored), and relatively more costly financing costs (I know that ~6.5-8% is historically low, and the absolute borrowing cost is less important than the relative recent ~4% regime.) My best advise is be very deliberate with your spending, think entrepreneurially but do not spend significant money on "making a new business" (90%+ businesses fail and the winners are almost entirely those that have access to nepobaby money or at least an inherited business operation.) For the moment, you have to brace for a lower standard of living until you gain some traction doing anything.For perspective, the jobs market is significantly worse than 2009 both in terms of availability of jobs, job quality, and the hiring process. Again, sorry man, the truth is that Boomers/Xers who "made it" are living in a bubble and are liable to psychologically torture you.>t Oregon Trail Gen fren fucked by 2008/9 and again by post coof jeetflood.
>>517841944*best advice Sorry for any other typos
>>517841595Even then, you don't need to know that to glue together a bunch of libraries and dump an application out, but they can't even do that
>>517842056Exactly but these are typically basic interview questions that a lot of grads can't pass.
My friend restreamed a work call over discord with about 250 in it and the majority was screaming Indians asking if they could go to bed.
>>517841291It's because you are white
>>517841944> millions of Indians onshored (and OFFshored)My company went from zero jeets to at least 500, and the board wonders why everything went to shit. They now think it is because we aren’t using enough AI kekw.
>>517841291most cs grads are dumb cellar dwellers, they go to cs because they like gaming and doomscrolling all fucking day and they can't answer basic questions. i had several people in my final year who couldnt write a basic program in c
>>517841291Cs has been massively overrun by H1BsWe need to shut down this and similar programs to prioritize American talent
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>>517842458In Poland too? thought slavs were good programmers.
so when people were telling you the field was hypersaturated for the last 4 years what made you continue to take on debt to get a useless degree? dumbass
>>517841521there’s white/blue collar jobs. niche fields, but some scientists actually have to go out into the field and work. these jobs can pay exceptionally well
>>517842531yeah, i teach some classes and every year we have over 200 freshmen, from which only 30-40 gets to the final semester and only 20-ish pass the final exam. from those 20 ppl only half can write a good compilable software
>>517842558Software development is hypersaturated but there are other fields you can enter with a CS degree. You can even get finance related jobs with a CS degree.
>>517841291It's just shitty timing. We're going into an economic downturn because Jerome Powell won't cut interest rates. The Fed always moves too slow and causes recessions. Plus dumbass boomer CEOs are falling for the AI meme and believing they can automate everything by next month, so they aren't hiring. Hiring will pick up again at some point. In 2021 companies were desperate for workers.
>>517842765in only 2 more years you will be able to compete with guys that have 3yoe for entry level jobs. trust the plan.
>>517842322>My company went from zero jeets to at least 500, and the board wonders why everything went to shit. They now think it is because we aren’t using enough AI kekw.Yup. I wish I could offer solutions to this kind of reckless disregard for employee livelihoods and product quality, but I don't have any. I'm unironically using my savings to trade options spreads (I fully realize that this is out of the question for most people and extremely risky for those of us who have enough money to even attempt this.)While there is a drive towards the Kalergi Plan in a thought out, malicious sense, I increasingly wonder as to what degree it is braindead Boomers (really early Xers in positions of control) simply following the latest half-baked corpo babble.
>>517841291Reposting from /biz/:HR whores are the reasoning behind this problem but it's the result of post-Covid economics.If you think the average American is struggling in this economy then imagine what the average business is like. In the same way that the average American isn't spending money on new items businesses aren't spending money on new employees. When the average American does spend money they usually want their dollar's worth. Businesses who hire are the exact same. Now this COULD have been prevented if the average American/business wasn't a complete FUCKWIT with their money but apparently nothing has been learned since 2008 except "give kikes money".There SHOULD be backup options and fail safes. There SHOULD have been emergency funds. But there wasn't and now we get this. Unfortunately HR whores are conniving crones, literal witches, who tell the higher ups they can solve their problems. But, in the true nature of women, they over complicate things either out of stupidity and/or to serve themselves. There is no goddamn reason an interview should be 3+ rounds. Instead the interviewing process ought to be able to sort who is a good potential candidate based on their skills or ability to be trained. But women don't want that. They want to make sure you don't give them the ick. Many of these cuntbags lean left and if you get a single Chud in who can identify and solve problems, they might eventually start to trim HR due to lack of efficiency and output.Yes there are companies that are doing this shit so they can appear to be growing or hire H1-Bs but most of it comes from the women offering a "solution" to financially stressed CEOs and butchering it. At this point the best we can hope for is that the economy will become so bad most HR whores are laid off and their retarded programs go with them. That or Chuds need to get into HR and get the women out (however that might be done).Love from Kazakhstan.
>>517841291Gee you studied the same meme degree as everyone else and are having trouble finding work? How could this have happened? NPC retard.
>>517842950Very good write up there is a lot of truth in it. Imo, HR is a feature, not a bug to the system moreso thank Kazakh fren suggests. This is what I mean:-HR cunts make hiring a Minotaur labyrinth of multiple rounds, mediums, etc-HR cunts positively refuse to hire White men no matter how qualified, balanced, and affable-HR reports "yup can't find any candidates! Need more resouces to keep looking"-This obviously benefits HR, but that is not the end purpose. Rather, C-level psychopaths want this answer-C-Level psychos then say "we need the saaars from Tata, Infosys, Tech Mahindra, etc" bc "no Americans want to work."The process is blindingly obvious and the only ones who deny it are dimwitted "I got mine" Boomers and frankly increasingly moreso early cohort GenX.
>>517841291Get a factory job, it pays better than cs -t CS grad.'08 with a blue collar
>>517841291>be me>unsuccessful college senior who's now forced to look for full time roles rather than internships>stumble upon one of the few internships to accept recent grads>some smallish company in Utah needing a data guy>apply less than 10 minutes of posting going live>this was 2 weeks ago I recently got rejected>I can never winSeriously tho what's the best way to gtfo of my parents' home in the NYC burbs, my parents rly piss me off and ideally i wanna cut em off
>>517842655Believe me, even the cs adjacent jobs are competitive af
>>517841389The field isn't over-saturated. The problem is companies are being permitted to hire globally. If every industry was forced into the same pattern of hiring the entire country would look like Bangladesh right now.
>>517841944This anon knows it. This happens everywhere with the exception of the "bottom of the barrel" (India/Pakistan).
>>517844455Yeah, it’s oversaturated. Retards got a meme degree because it’s what they were told to do, and it’s a field that is vulnerable to outsourcing. Should’ve studied engineering or a real science, lol. There’s plenty of niche fields with hardly any young people in them any more, and they can pay pretty well. However the NPCs haven’t been programmed to think of them as well-paying, desirable jobs
>>517841291Bro you guys just won that h1b1 battle l, the jobs should be falling off the trees. If you can't get a job at this point it's a skill issue.
>>517846589>Should’ve studied engineering or a real scienceShut the fuck up you mitwit. These guys are getting horsefucked right now. I worked at a multinational engineering company, and the ONLY domestic hires were nepobabies of long time managers. Everything else was "brown cunts of color" and infinity jeets. >>517846056Thanks fren. I acknowledge that even with the difficulties, I at least had a moment to save some money so now I could try to do the financial markets thing for myself. I feel terrible for the younger guys out there. God bless.
>>517841291You didn't care when spics took blue collar jobs, so shit faced jeets stealing yours isn't my problem college boi.
>>517844455Yup. It's because of greedy ass boomer management and stakeholders who would rather sell the country out so they can buy another motorcycle or yacht.
>>517846971>canadian flag>brown id>smug smarmy postGod is just making it obvious at this point. Funny bastard that he is.
>>517846971>you won the H1B1>h1b1Are you a fucking monkey brain groid? It's H1B, and that is only one of a dozen plus visajeet scams. But to your point, Trump's EO literally does absolutely nothing. It has exceptions per DHS whim, and is frankly pointless bc more than the cap of new H1Bs have already been filed for FY26. It was this moment that I realized that I am in an empire of slaves who "dunk on" their European distant cousins bc muh guns or something. If one simply reads Trumps H1B Proclamation, he would realize it is a bag of shit nonsense and objectively does nothing.
>>517842946>trade options What have you been doing so far? I've been tempted to do this.
>>517847017Most engineering degrees are oversaturated retard meme degrees as well. Do something niche like forestry, or don’t do college at all. It’s unbelievable to me how many of my classmates lacked any kind of initiative or aptitude for academics when I attended
>>517841291>CS majorYou decided to jump on a bubble 20 years after it burst.
>>517847160>You didn't careFirst of all, yes I did care and I was in high school in the late 90s, fuckhead. What the hell did you want us to do? In 1999 I was citing Pat Buchanan's warnings against globalization and how it was destroying the American Middle Class. Meanwhile, Zoomers trying to get a job after college are 100% not your adversary. To see it that way is a other signal of our broken circumstance as a country, unable to work together.>>517847457>What have you been doing so far? I've been tempted to do this.Level 3 trading: Put and Call debit spreads, ie "I think things will float higher/settle lower. but stay close to where they are." A current spread I have is a Put debit spread for SPX 6750/6800 17 OCT 25. Another position is 6880/6920. This is not financial advice nor a solicitation/suggestion to buy or sell, but just me telling you what I'm doing.>how do you make money?If I buy 10 contract on each side of the 6750/6800 SPX trade and thr SET price on Oct17th is at or below 6750, then I make (50-[net premium paid])x100x10.
>>517841291>t. CS major senior who can hardly find a full time jobLearn to code.
>>517848471>Zoomers trying to get a job after college are 100% not your adversary.Why can't they hang sheetrock like everybody else?
>>517841389I studied your mom
>>517848744Me too.She pays pretty well, but it's a tough job.
>muh white collar>muh blue collarDelusions of the insane. It is not the job that makes the man, tis the man that makes the job.You can CHOOSE to be a low class loser car mechanic barely scraping by, or you can tuck in your god-damned shirt, cut your hair, be polite, and learn how to turn wrenches on an Airbus A380 in your spare time. You will be making far more money than a comparable "white collar" wagie and you could even be better cultured than them if you don't fall into the abyss of shithead behaviors.
>>517841291your major is now flooded with unlimited indians shitting up the job market. until the h1bs get pushed out the dislocation will continue.your best bet is smaller companies that dont want to pay lawyers to handle h1b sponsorships.
>>517841291Make some shit and sell it to Google or microsoft
>>517848471Ty fren.
>>517841689okie dokie
>>517848890>tuck in your god-damned shirt, cut your hair, be polite, and learn how to turn wrenches on an Airbus A380 in your spare time. You will be making far more money than a comparable "white collar" wagie and you could even be better cultured than them if you don't fall into the abyss of shithead behaviors.let me guess, you voted for Trump, a white collard businessman. You can make all the money you want, if you don't know how to manage it you will lose it all.My family did not get rich by "working harder" it was that plus smart saving and investing. You are right about the white collar/blue color divide tho. That is all it is a D&C campaign by actors like MIke Row. Even a mechanic has to use a computer to order parts, keep track of inventory, bills, etc. >>517848042companies here also outsource to Canada. I just wish normies understood what "buyer power" means.
>>517848890You can work in a pencil factory and have the cleanest haircut, the nicest hat, and consider yourself a member of "the chosen people", but it won't change the fact that you're working in a pencil factory.
>>517841291You can't find a job?Start your own business. t. Economist
>>517841291If you enjoy programming but want a more hands on job, you should look into robots and CNCs.
>>517848042BASED
>>517850669My gf is into CNC
>>517850802she's ngmi
>>517850430The pencil market is a $15 billion behemoth. You already have one foot in the door working the line and if you stay in an entry level position that's on you.>but but boss man too smart I can't move up cause I don't know how to bring more value to my companyWell shit bro life is tough. Some people are just better than others deal with it.
>>517850802Into as in works with CNCs or just as a hobby?
>>517850669CNC’s use macros. You don’t need to have a certification in C sharp for that shitt. Makino on-site technician
>>517850123>tuck in your god-damned shirtthis. picrel
>>517841291that graph ignores the factor of increasing ease causing decreasing effort.
>>517850992>adopting boomer "pull up your bootstraps" tier thinking>thinks this is an own against anyone but himself
>>517841291>White-collar recession or skill issue?Both but the price placed on H1B visas should *hopefully* make it easierIn the meantime, when you apply to jobs if there is a questionaire asking your ethnicity or sexual orientation just say you are Hispanic and GaySeriously, trust me on this one
>>517851459I have a very obviously monosyllabic and Asian last name. This would only work if I'm Filipino lol which I'm sadly not.
>>517849953Yo're welcome fren. Be careful: you can lose a lot of money very quickly. You also can run into risk of being exercised (if you do individual stocks.) A tricky thin about monthly SPX options is the SET price on expiration. Let's say it's October 17th and the SP500 opens at 6725. Looks great! However, the SET price is possibly higher (or lower) depending on the initial bid for constituent stocks on the index, bids which do not necessarily happen at the Index open. The SET may well be 6775 and thus make my hypothetical spread a losing trade. God bless!https://www.cboe.com/index_settlement_values/
>>517850992I don't really work at a pencil factory lmao. Was referencing a certain historical figure I thought would be more notorious since it's 4chan here, but evidently not.
>>517851427It's literally how the Universe operates. Until we are post scarcity the only chance anyone has is to work harder and be more efficient than the next guy. It sucks but it's true. You can also try using violence but the odds of winning that game are even lower.
>>517841291not enough ELITE talent from india
>>517851709I know I continued the metaphor.
>>517841291White collar recession. 1. Federal minimum wage has been frozen at $7.25 since 2009. This has helped keep starting salaries suppressed. 2. Because so many low education jobs or skilled blue collar jobs have been stolen and given to foreigners, there are now more Americans competing for white collar jobs who would normally have not gone to college or tried for a desk job. The higher demand for these jobs lowers the wages.3. Many white collar jobs are now being stolen and given to foreigners either via remote work or through H1B VISAS. This further serves to lower wages.It used to be a receptionist job would pay for a crappy apartment. Now places hire "administrative specialists" or whatever to have them do the work of a receptionist, a secretary, an accountant, etc., and they cannot afford a crappy apartment. White collar is bad, has been bad, and will only get worse. People I went to high school with who have been working for Walmart all these years are much better paid than I am and some even own homes now. I was the dummy who went to college who year after year sees no increase in salary, no opportunity for advancement, and no job openings in sight.>but why are you still working there thenHealthcare. And to be eligible to retire. Then I'll go work for Walmart. It's fucked up.
>>517851818Have you ever been this fucking guilty in your life?
>>517851604>This would only work if I'm Filipino lol which I'm sadly notWhat do you mean it wont work? By the time someone sees your face it will have gotten to the point where they don't know what ethnicity you told them. Its literally an algorithm that looks at your submission and decides whether or not to pass your resume off to a human or put it in the trash
>>517841291Lack of manufacturing jobs pushes previously middle class whites into competition for the few remaining "good" jobs. It doesn't help that these "good" jobs are largely unproductive and thus ultimately parasitic on the actual economy.
>>517851774>the only chance anyone has is to work harder and be more efficient than the next guy.
>>517842240/thread
>>517842765Interest rates should be higher. Way higher. The fucking ROI on most stocks is absolute dogshit, but all government of the US are invested in keeping bubbles going at all costs, since their connections can make money on them as first movers, and so they live in a quasi bubble that always screens at them to make number go up at that it is good.Sure there are other factors further influencing this, but this is the main one. The friends&co of those are the helm, be they in power or opposition make money on it and don't want it to end. Coupe with consistent historic losses if number not go up, and almost everyone who is at the helm will do what he can to make number go up.At any rate the only way for this to be able to continue in this instance is if energy prices crash to fuel the AI circular economy cocksucking grift that will never deliver what it promises the investors (actually eliminating or slashing personnel costs).To do that you have to save the petrodollars and somehow to get oil down hard. Coupled the Venezuela focus and Trumps nuclear push the moves seem to be made to ensure abundant energy supply, at least for the US.If that works out this retarded K ecconomy can live on for a decade or so by virtue of cheap energy. That is if somehow you can ensure that China can not buy it directly or by proxy without a massive fucking tariff.Since the current energy price suppression is indeed fucking with Russia's ability to make money as much as it could but is consistently beneficial to china.If the US can not find a way to not just tariff china on their energy but ensure no proxy sales as it happens with India doing russian oil sales then China will simply buy most of the cheap oil and cut down on the extended lease of life for the AI bubble style policies and further power their mega factories and thermal powerplants. Which they have been building for years at a rate of 1 new powerplant per week...
>>517851087Buddy, I know that. G code is way easier to learn than C though, if you already understand things like the coordinate system and basic syntax.
>>517851708Anyone you recommend to learn more about this?
>>517841291>White>can hardly find a full time jobyou know very well why
>>517844455We have too many CS majors that just suck. They can all be replaced by AI. You’re too dumb to invent anything.
>>517841291>recession or skill issueCollusion between corporations and foreign governments.Also, the future is in hardware, not software.
>>517842946>While there is a drive towards the Kalergi Plan in a thought out, malicious sense, I increasingly wonder as to what degree it is braindead Boomers (really early Xers in positions of control) simply following the latest half-baked corpo babble.My money is on majority. The hard part is getting in those circles and changing their NPC programming for a new idea, which they will also uncritically and slavishly run into the ground. Such is the unfortunate condition of aggregate interest groups.
>>517852129I tell new hires if you can use a sheet of graph paper to map coordinates you are good to go
CS was always a meme degree sadly and the only reason prior CS grads were able to easily find jobs was because the bubble hadn’t yet deflated and firms were swimming in investor cash they could pay new hires with. If you want to actually put your CS degree to use, your only really viable option is going through graduate school and becoming a researcher or niche professional. Otherwise, you ought to re-train with a master’s degree. Computer and Electrical Engineering are still very viable. Finance and Economics are quite good for CS grads as well. Of course you could always pursue becoming a researcher in science, mathematics, or economics, go into sales, or lastly you have the military and government but basically your strategy at this point is that you got a degree that suggests you’re kinda smart but doesn’t actually lend itself to anything which has open positions.
I feel bad for people who got shilled CS and actually pursued it only to find out it’s a bullshit degree, but you always should have known to be honest with you. The fact that you weren’t able to suss out that it is a bullshit degree and got conned is something of a professional red flag.
>>517841291Warned you fags 5 years ago. Very few people listened. You should have learned garbage collection instead of coding. The salary is the same in Canada and you don't need to put in 65hr weeks staring at a computer to push out a few features the VP of product Management wanted.Canada was the canary in the coal mine unironically. In Canada there's over 9000 coders landing in our airports every single day. UWaterloo kids were sending out 1000+ resumes and getting a few interviews tops. The interviews were asking graph theory quantitative math questions that you'd need to spend 6 months prepping for. >Your first 3 problems were right>Oh you bombed the 4th question. You got the right output but your algorithm you wrote down in 10 mins on a whiteboard had O(Log Log n) complexity instead of O(Log Log Log n) complexity>it's just not efficient enough you don't have what it takes to work at this 3rd rate drive share appGood luck working with nerds high on their own farts that couldn't pass their own interviews. >>517841389All STEM is fucked. West isn't interested in building new things. It's a networking/nepotism/normie social skills economy. If you have social skills you'll do ok. If you're an autist with technical skills, they'd prefer not to see you around the office.
>>517852215East AsianI'd honestly argue it's worse for (2nd generation) Indian and Chinese Americans, since even though they could be as American as apple pie, the hiring managers will associate their faces with poor visa top 0.1% boat people, and grill you accordingly.Being Asian American in current year is like the worst of both worlds, in which you get all the worst parts of being white (DEI, "white adjacency"), and none of the best (eliteness, wealth, dating). It's really fucked up.
>>517841291I’m thinking of starting a company (made some shit recently at work that will save millions of dollars and am feeling cocky) and I’m only posting my job openings on 4chan when I need an employee, so the people who post threads like this will soon have some opportunity.
>>517852399>CS was always a meme degree The entire economy is a meme>your only really viable option is going through graduate school and becoming a researcher or niche professionalYou'll need to get that graduate degree from a top program like Stanford / MIT / CMU. A PhD from a state school isn't going to get you a career in research these days.
>>517841595>Skill issue. A surprising amount of CS graduates can't explain what a race condition is or write a simple sorting algorithm.Bullshit. Nearly every CS grad can do that easily.Interviewers will hit fresh CS grads with leetcode hard problems and then act like "oh these guys can't do basic shit, they failed the skyline problem"
>>517841291You've been jeeted by an H1B streetshitter.
>>517852149>Anyone you recommend to learn more about this?I think the Schwab education/training sessions are pretty good and free of the scammer brown coded "sub to my seminar and get rich dawg" nonsense on TT or YT. Honestly, even starting with an Options for Dummies or Options Workbook to get a sense of what the instruments are, the rules of how they are traded, and different strategies is a fine place to start. Personally, I do this only bc it is what I reasonably can do in the moment. Having normal incomes from trading my time/services for cash is better in my view. But we have be creative in these times and this is my form of "being creative."
>>517852467it was a good job until AI can just do it all. other professions were smart and built up huge credential moats, and like doctors limit the number of doctors possible each year. CS just wanted to make things and left the doors wide open, the fools
>>517851023Fetish
>>517852467all degrees are bullshit now without connections
>>517852530Good on you anon. Make the 4chan hiring practice meme a reality. We are already operating in a meme economy, so that should be as valid as any other practice, especially if you can live and profit off of retarded investor money managed by finance bros who dgaf what happens with the money as long as they get their commission.
>>517852399Serious question: can grad school actually be used to reskill?I am currently doing undergraduate research at my university, and meet with an advisor who's a PhD student. My advisor told me that grad school (especially at the PhD level) is only really ever worth doing if you're genuinely deeply interested in the topic and have an ardent passion for the subject material.Which I don't, I just want money and did well in math/CS classes in HS lol. Was told I'd probably fail to break into grad school for any of the hard sciences, like physics, chemistry, or even any of the engineering disciplines.One subject area I do have a genuine interest in is music history. But you can't really get employed easily with that anyways (especially since my performance skills are ass due to me not touching a piano in years).Haven't even been caring much about grad applications, been too busy juggling with a stupidly heavy course load this semester, on top of newgrad application spraying and praying. All I need is one job that can allow me to live on my own, even if it's Excel only or requires me to relocate to the Dakotas. From then I can consider grad school (probably a tech discipline) or eventual upskilling.(Note to people giving advice: I have well documented tism and was told those are barred from the military and clearance positions. I know there are a zillion trainspotters in the Navy or whatever but they manage to keep it on the down low, and I bet they weren't forced to have aides or go to a tard middle school like me.)
>>517852745Only top tech companies or hedge funds will ask leetcode hard problems. The majority of companies will interview you about basic stuff.
>>517853156Something something sell shovels something something
>>517852524Know a guy who went to america for work and got citizenship. When he is asked about immigration he answers that the best model is that of our national hero Vlad III Tepes (the impaler).Shoot them and have the bodies of border hoppers displayed at some great height all across the border and make that be the fence. A dread fence.
>>517853424Sounds like something Saudi Arabia would do, if there were ever to be large-scale illegal immigration to Saudi Arabia for some reason
>>517852822Checked. Once again, thank you, fren.
>>517853521Nah. They have the emirates model. 11 mil pop with only 2 mil citizens.Outside of yuro/us specialists everyone else is treated barely above slaves like they did in the olden days. They have a different cultural framework.
>>517852962Even with connections I've been failing miserably lol
>>517853283>Only top tech companiesThey all think they're top tech companies.Anyways even if you do well on their coding test and their aptitude test (I scored higher than anyone working at one company), they still won't hire you. It took a few years to get my foot in the door in this field and it hasn't really been worth it. Last week I was working 7am-10pm every single day. They dumped half a dozen projects onto me earlier this month.I make less than high school teachers that graduated from uni at the same time.
>>517853191It CAN, but that doesn’t mean it WILL. You have to be very careful what you study, where, and what you do there. The vast majority of graduate programs are research programs. So you have to understand that regardless of what the degree says you are actually getting a degree for doing research. This is why he’s right that PhDs are only worth it in those scenarios. Let’s say you’re considering a PhD in Economics. What you’re literally training for is the academic research of economic topics. What is the job market for that? It’s basically just universities, a small number of government agencies, and a small number of banks. That degree is completely irrelevant for, say, working as a financial analyst of any kind. Now, it’s a different story if let’s say you got a CS degree and then you got a professional (not research-oriented) MS in Finance or Economics. That is the sort of degree that would better lend itself to sort of generic corporate jobs. So it all depends. If you don’t have a serious academic interest in some field, you shouldn’t do a PhD. You generally shouldn’t do a Master’s either, but there are exceptions like I detailed. I would also add that even if you do have an interest in something it’s important to understand that mere interest isn’t enough. You need an ACADEMIC interest in it. You’re paid to publish novel research, not just kind of immerse in it. Also, the job market is quite small for researchers. If you really want to just immerse in a topic, just writing or journalism is a much better way to pursue that for most people. Honesty what you should do is get clear on a specific career you want and then just pursue the credentials most appropriate for that. If you want to work on Wall Street, you need a finance or business degree. No way around it. If you want to work in medicine, you need a medical degree. If you want to be an accountant, you need an accounting degree.
>>517853424based Gypsieit's the only way they understand and soon..>>517853521shudup jude
>>517847612>>517846589>>517842590>>517841389You're vaxxed
>>517854763>shuddup judeAsian American, ahem, againWho do you hate more, jews or asians
>>517853884What about non tech companies needing tech peopleEven they have shitty OAs
>>517853156I think you’d probably get better talent here than on a job board, assuming you’re willing to filter out all the “Nigger McGee experience in sucking cock” resumes.
>>517841291Jeet crapflood issue.
>>517841389Real science has even less jobs than CS. It's fucking over for every STEMcel.
>>517841291White Collar recession. It's impossible to expect any field to be able to keep up with unlimited jeets (who are all lying about their credentials and engaging in rampant hiring discrimination). Putting a stop to mass immigration and outsourcing would instantly improve the economic health of Western service sectors while encouraging companies to actually invest in training/education.
>>517859350Counterpoint: outsourcing?
>>517856938Yeah I work for a non-tech company.They will still ask LC questions but the difficulty could be medium with 1 borderline hard. In my case they sent over an online-assessment around 1hr before my interview. It included around 10 questions. Afterwards, they went over my solutions. Actual tech companies would have an OA before even scheduling an interview. My experience interviewing for non-tech companies in this field is they'll throw in a bunch of domain specific "gotcha" questions. The question will have unclear or ambiguous wording to trap people that write out a solution instead of asking probing questions to the interviewer. It's a humiliation ritual.In my opinion, I would cast a wide net and apply to jobs that have almost nothing to do with tech. Working as a coder for a tech company or a non-tech company isn't worth it in most cases. There isn't a shortage of tech workers. It's become a thankless, low-paying (compared to many office wagie jobs), deadline driven job with no margin for error. I hope the entire tech bubble bursts .Do you have any experience / internships / other jobs?
>>517860543The thing with outsourcing is the public needs something to gain from it. With the manufacturing outsourcing that took place starting in the 70s, the public got cheap goods to counteract the loss of stable blue-collar jobs. If you outsource the entire service sector it is cutting the public off from any avenue for well-paying jobs. All that will remain is asset owners, their outsourced slave wagies, and the masses of immiserated workers. Not exactly a recipe for a successful society.This is leaving out the fact that there are language and security concerns with outsourcing. If everything under the C-suite is in India, is it really an American company anymore?
>>517842946>While there is a drive towards the Kalergi Plan in a thought out, malicious sense, I increasingly wonder as to what degree it is braindead Boomers (really early Xers in positions of control) simply following the latest half-baked corpo babble.The latest half-baked corpo babble is the Kalergi Plan.
>>517860677DisappointingWhat was the role? Swe?
>>517861712>the public needs something to gain from itwoah, cool it with those socialist remarks
>>517841291You will never be a real programmer. You have no commits, you have no pull requests, you have no public repos. You are a low IQ brown man twisted by an unearned comp sci degree and coding bootcamps into a crude mockery of nature's autism.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and from bots. Behind your back people call you a useless DEI hire. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “tech bros” laugh at you behind closed doors.Real programmers are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of forum posts have allowed programmers to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even devs who “pass” have no creative output and excessively verbose with AI generated tech buzzwords. Your GitHub profile is a dead giveaway, and even if you manage to score a 3 month internship at some scam startup, they'll lay you off the second they find out that you haven't completed any non school related projects.You will never be happy. You cope by saying that your bullshit software is using a "proprietary test framework" so you can't open source it, but deep down you know it's because you don't want people to see your incompetence where all you did was push README updates over and over, and that the core codebase was stolen off an open source GPL licensed project which you're shamelessly profiting off.Eventually it will be too much to bear. You'll buy a spoofed business phone number and start cold calling old people into redeeming your gift card scam. This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>517858588Random get hires would probably net a better workforce than current hiring practices in the west.
>>517866456Saw someone on X actually advocate for this to counter "elite overproduction".Context was this discussion in response to some high-schooler with stellar grades getting rejected from all the "public ivies".They suggested making some of college admissions random for elite schools like Ivies or similarNot a bad i
>>517858588On g/utwg someone actually went through the trouble of creating a job board, and specifically tailored it for channersIt only has 1 role and it's a 4chan janny role
>>517866844You do recall the meme I was refering to? The fuck off we are full and Deus vult panels were preceded by it and was a thing.... I don't want to say almost ten years old, but therea abouts. Farthuffing self described "elites" are not something that any anon should have anything except disdain for.Also, dude not getting into an ivy school is perhaps better overall form his life. Less gay shit and cocaine in his bloodstream for certain.
