https://archive.is/pQ7Yq>I believe the first step out of the maze for young men begins by reasserting to them the virtue of hard work — an often grueling but indispensable part of finding the right answers in science.>Of course, women can be antiscience just as much as men>The male tendency to view debates as adversarial contests that must be won at all costs is what may help to create a more alarming antiscience dynamic in the Manosphere.>Framing science as a debate to be won makes it easy to paint established scientists as opponents who must be overcome.>The easiest ways to win the debate is to suggest scientists are either self-satisfied elites who won’t consider new ideas or, worse, liars who know the truth and are hiding it.>While there can seem to be a sincere desire in the manosphere to learn more about topics like black holes and neuroscience, discussions in these communities can sometimes devolve into a compelling story about searching for “the truth” about the moon landings, ancient technology and climate change.>The way to counter this story is, ironically, already there in the manosphere. Research shows young men and women today want a higher purpose, a call to something greater than themselves. In the manosphere, figures like Jordan Peterson, a clinical psychologist with an immensely popular podcast, speak directly to this desire among young men.>Mr. Peterson has framed virtues like personal responsibility, honesty and a purpose-driven life as qualities that are important to manliness. Those same values surface in other manosphere interests, like rigorous athletic training and disciplined health regimens.>What does not get much airtime, however, is recognition that these are also the very virtues that guide science and its principal values of veracity, accuracy and precision — seeking the right answer.>Exercise caution when it comes to fringe experts.
>The easiest ways to win the debate is to suggest scientists are either self-satisfied elites who won’t consider new ideas or, worse, liars who know the truth and are hiding it.haha yeah what a crazy unfounded belief
>trust the scienceIs the phrase that doomed it, for me atleast. There is 0 trust in science, either prove it or its not scientific fact
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>>517944886lel
>>517944508Good. These men are low IQ animals. Less competition for me.
>>517944879>trust the scienceThey like to say “trust the science” as long as it’s not biological determinism. Then, it’s 2025 and not the 1950s or some shit.
>>517944508>Men can be biological womenGee, I wonder why.
Yeah this is why I hate intellectuals so much: they obfuscate everything by believing that it's all so deep. Here's what science needs to hear: the reason men aren't attracted to science anymore is because science ensured the identity of a scientist is that of a fucking dork & nerd. And they gatekeep the fuck oht of that identity. This is what scientists can't figure out: you go out of your way to ensure there is absolutely no semblance of masculinity in your field...yet you're surprised young men want nothing to do with you? The problem is not just that science isn't masculine, it's also that the fucking nerds & dorks will never let it be maaculine.
>>517944508>The male tendency to view debates as adversarial contests that must be won at all costsI was under the impression this was part of the female nature
>>517944508>I believe the first step out of the maze for young men begins by reasserting to them the virtue of hard workThat's right young man, shut up and work hard!>Of course, women can be antiscience just as much as menDefensive weaseling so they can claim they aren't picking on men.>Framing science as a debate to be won makes it easy to paint established scientists as opponents who must be overcome.They present themselves as holy experts whose words and opinions have higher value than the general public's, without exception and without accountability. What other framing is even possible?>While there can seem to be a sincere desire in the manosphere to learn more about topics like black holes and neuroscience, discussions in these communities can sometimes devolve into a compelling story about searching for “the truth” about the moon landings, ancient technology and climate change.meaning>blah blah blah there's nothing of value, any skepticism of Established Science is the stuff of cranksThen the classic>Exercise caution when it comes to fringe experts.Yes, that makes sense because there's never been a case in history where a lone few dissenters were proven correct. Fucking faggots....
>>517944508>like Jordan Petersonahh yes, that brilliant scientist>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVJWiHuoUqY
>>517945693it is. this is a bad-faith article that reeks of the jew.
>>517944508This is a woman, since since 2010Science confirmed debate settled
>>517944508>science>faithnot reading any further than that
>>517944508>>Framing science as a debate to be won makes it easy to paint established scientists as opponents who must be overcome.That's exactly what science is, these people don't want you to discover anything.
>>517944508heres a tldr of the article>science says whites are evil>science says whites are dumb>science says whites poor>science says whites are genetically inferior>science says whites are racist>science says whites are aliens
>>517944508we wuz scienteistsistswe wazrads naow
>>517944508>whyAll their high profile fuck ups?>blm riots fo not spread viruses, but covid protests where people where masks and stay seprate in their cars are super spreader eventsT. Scientists>this gene therapy being used a a vaccine for the first time innhistory is perfectly safe to the point we can force you to take it. But this >50 year old medicince hydroxychloroquine thats been used to treat this exact illness is too dangerous and is medical quakeryT. Scientists
>>517944508>I believe the first step out of the maze for young men begins by reasserting to them the virtue of hard work — an often grueling but indispensable part of finding the right answers in scienceOr maybe just stop saying men can get pregnant
>>517944508Another one is>replication crisis continues>somehow it is anti-science to point it outI get this constantly.
NOOOO DON'T DO YOUR OWN RESEATCH GOYIM! TRUST THE SCIENCE!fuck kikes
>>517944508The science is settled
>>517944508Trust the experts, who know more than you, even though everything they say is false retarded and gay.Even though they willingly un unwittingly serve the worse force on this planet
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>>517945552He isn't real science. Just a pop figure.
>>517944508>faith>in science>FAITHwhat the fuck am i reading?
>>517946375Kek, I noticed that too
>>517944508>be (((experts)))>fabricate data to get taxpayer funding>lie to the public straight through their teeth>scams eventually fall through and people get mad>NOOOO WHY DON'T PEOPLE TRUST THE SCIENCE ANYMORE
>manosphere boogeymanThey blame this hobgoblin for everything related to young men and their failed propaganda.
>>517944508>faith>science That's your problem. Science became faith-based in 2020. Faith ain't how you science, breh.
>>517944508Science isnt a religion and you seem incapable of understanding the difference
>>517944886ALL SYSTEMS: NOMINAL
>>517944508>faith>in >science They're doing this shit on purpose, right?
Science is dead. What these morons defend as “science” is in reality progressive scientism. It’s a cult, a super fucking gay one.
>>517944508"Black Holes" are anti-scientific mathematical mythology and I can prove it a priori
>>517944508>faith in sciencephrases that make you go "hmmm"
>>517946533It's a real thingI come here for fun but it can't be your whole life, it's an echo chamber of failed men. Go outside, be among other men, do things. You can disregard women completely if you want but listening to podcasts that validate your beliefs and jerking off are not going to do you any favors and the trap is set deliberately to eliminate week men from society The manosphere exists but it's created by the Jews
>>517945657>The problem is not just that science isn't masculine, it's also that the fucking nerds & dorks will never let it be maaculine.And truthfully, the nerds and dorks are pretty bad at it. They are often extremely low social value and therefore behave like women by deferring to authority. I work at a chemical facility around a large number of what you'd call actual scientists, actual factual college educated chemists. And they're all low T, immature consoomers and are all fully vaxxed "trust the basedence" types.
>>517946595They are incapable of understanding the difference. They are those people. Wise men discovered millennia ago that most people, almost all, a wholly retarded and need(demand) to be lead by the nose and controlled bybtheir betters.The hitch in the program is that these people took over the kniwlesge authorities. The anus has been sewn to the mouth of knowledge.
>>517946726>The manosphere exists but it's created by the Jewsno, it was just subverted by them, and bisexual cuck jews like jack murphy have always been trying to slither inroissy was one of the OGs and started calling out jews in 2012
>>517944508>>I believe the first step out of the maze for young men begins by reasserting to them the virtue of hard work — an often grueling but indispensable part of finding the right answers in God's plan.>>Of course, women can be heretical just as much as men>>The male tendency to view debates as adversarial contests that must be won at all costs is what may help to create a more alarming anti-religion dynamic in the Manosphere.>>Framing God's works as a debate to be won makes it easy to paint established Clergy as opponents who must be overcome.>>The easiest ways to win the debate is to suggest Clergy-men are either self-satisfied elites who won’t consider new ideas or, worse, liars who know the truth and are hiding it.>>While there can seem to be a sincere desire in the manosphere to learn more about topics like black holes and neuroscience, discussions in these communities can sometimes devolve into a compelling story about searching for “the truth” about witches, ancient civilizations and Helio-centric theory.>>The way to counter this story is, ironically, already there in the manosphere. Research shows young men and women today want a higher purpose, a call to something greater than themselves. In the manosphere, figures like Jesus Christ, a Rabbi with an immensely popular following, speak directly to this desire among young men.>>Mr. Christ has framed virtues like personal responsibility, honesty and a purpose-driven life as qualities that are important to manliness. Those same values surface in other manosphere interests, like rigorous athletic training and disciplined health regimens.>>What does not get much airtime, however, is recognition that these are also the very virtues that guide religion and its principal values of veracity, accuracy and precision — seeking the right answer from our Lord>>Exercise caution when it comes to heretics.
>>517946883stop saying actually. it's fucking annoying. everyone overuses that fucking gay word lately. is it because of zoomers? can't you just say a different qualifying word? like really? or truly? actually is the new LITERALLY and I ACTUALLY cant stand it
>>517944508>"science" tells me a man who cut his balls off is a woman>"science" tells me quantum bullshittery proved that causality isn't real>"science" tells me I should take MRNA shot developed in two months and then 20 boosters for a disease with 2% lethalitygee I wonder why people are listening less and less!
>>517944508>((Adam Frank))
>>517947230>t. A low T, immature consoomer and fully vaxxed "trust the basedence" typeYou wouldn't be so upset if you weren't
>>517944508>"these are also the very virtues that guide science"LMAOMAOMost jewish article I've read in ages. Every sentence is a mental gymnastic. This bitch is so open minded zir brain fell out.
>>517944508Bitch EVERYTHING is made by MEN. Everything. This article is insane.
>>517944508Maybe your asinine depiction of the situation has a little bit more to do with it than you'd all be comfortable admitting.
>trust the science Being wrong alot makes people not trust you. Covid and the vaccines damaged "trust the experts" irreparably. Then there's economists who say "do X or things will get worse", then they do X and things get worse. As for ancient societies why the fuck not? A lot of shit doesn't add up, like complex temples surrounded by retards in mud or twig huts.
>>517947023I still can't believe the leaked images of him gaping his asshole are real.
>>517944508so much text"science" became gay and retarded and that's why men don't care about it
>>517947749I unironically trust my ancestral blood memory more than most experts.
>>517944508The manosphere was built on science. It's underlying principles were taken from evolutionary psychology studies. You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>517945657You can thank these nerds or your ability to spew a retarded comment here you mongrel.
>>517944508>eggs are bad for you>avoid milk>take a bunch of jabs>seed oil is healthy>when white men work out they get cancer>cutting your dick off is scientificand then you learned that science became (((science)))
Modern science is a fucking sham for the most part, and heavily politicized.Ie James Watson being retroactively stripped of his noble prize for daring to say genetics do influence the potential intelligence of a given individual, which is common fucking sense but because he worded it poorly (not really but lets pretend so for argument sake) he got his whole career ruined and was publicly humiliated.Also there is a huge crisis in academia due to the impossibility of reproduction of the provided methodology, as in, 9 times out of 10, if you do 1 for 1 what is claimed to have been done in any given paper to reach the stated conclusion, you do not get the same results. Basically the profession was turned into a bunch of faggot yes-men who'll push whatever retardation you bribe them to publish as unquestionable gospel and archive it asap, so it can be quoted by their financial backer for whatever purpose they wanted out of it.
>>517944710>>The easiest ways to win the debate is to suggest scientists are either self-satisfied elites who won’t consider new ideas or, worse, liars who know the truth and are hiding it.It's pretty reasonable for exhausted research scientists not to consider the ideas of incredulous amateurs who know nothing about the topic and have no experience>>517946161oh yeah you gotta listen to Mr torturing cat guy. Very based Russian redpilled man. The chemtrails are making you gay. It's not because you were raped by your pa
>>517948150It's feminine on that it's about following the rules, more than doing something useful. Using the typical female engineer as an example, they might do good in school cause women thrive in structured environments; however in the work world they fail cause they don't have any creative ability. Alot of fem engineers just end up in office admin style jobs cause that's all they can do. Academia has a process, and it's all about fallowing the process rather than getting useful results.
>>517946726The Manosphere is literally just a bunch of podcasters and youtubers, it's not a conspiracy. Each of them is just out for himself, to keep his audience interested and watching super streams and donating to them. To that end, these guys tell their audience what they want to hear. Every single periodical talking about the manosphere acts like it's a top-down moral messaging scheme because that is how they envision the media. That is how the left uses mainstream news and entertainment. It's all top-down, "we will tell you what to think" style shit, it's very fair to call it propaganda. None of them actually watches or listens to any of these "manosphere" guys, they don't know what kind of content it is, they just assume.It's not like that. It's in fact the antithesis of that, and that is what draws men to it. They seek out sources of information that aren't didactic and heavy-handed. You think Joe Rogan got popular by telling people to trust him and not ask questions like all the lefty journalists and "experts" do? He invites a huge array of different people onto this show specifically so he can ask questions and get explanations about things. Of course not all the "manosphere" content creators are like Rogan, but he's one of the more popular ones for a reason. It's creating a space where nobody talks down to you or tells you what to think. That's the basis of it, and they're too fucking stuck up to see or admit it.
>>517946533It's just lib-brain shit thinking that dissent against their worldview must be the result of being nefariously influenced by some kind of spooky bad actor rather than people seeking out those sorts of content streams BECAUSE they disagree. Which of course reveals what their view of the average person is: an infinitely impressionable retard who neither possesses nor can be trusted with intellectual agency, and thus who it's the responsibility of "the experts" to keep carefully corralled in a walled garden of søy and pozz safe from the "disinformation" of anyone disagreeing with them at all ever
>>517944508>fringe expertsWe've moved from>trust the expertsto>trust approved expertsSubtle. They stopped saying we're wrong or lack expertise.
>>517948827If you can't see the subversion then they have already got you It's amazing because they make you feel like you are doing your own research or forming your own opinions but you are just as much of a drooling sheep liberal watching Anderson Cooper if you listen to any of these opinion validating echo chambers
>>517944508The only scientists that have ever mattered in history are those that were never scientists to begin with or those who were scientists on the periphery and not part of the group that self-identifies as: experts, scientists and leaders.The latter are a bunch of gatekeepers that form a collective blob of retards that at best dumbs science down so that the rest of us retards can actually understand what is being said to us, and when I mean 'said to us' I mean, dictated down to us. That's why you'll never see huge advances in science because they've collectively removed all incentives away from making advances.You have to pay for an expensive patent which may or may not get approved or find out that your 'great idea' has been stolen by some chink retard scientist group, or your technological advance is a weapon, so if you're lucky whatever discovery you've made will go on to murder lots of people or even worse than that, the advance you've made has brought humanity to a new dystopia and everyone will want you dead for making their life that much harder.
>>517944508Science is a process, not an institution. It’s just a set of steps to derive empirical knowledge. It depends wholly on the axiom that events are reproducible when circumstances around the event are similar, which is a reasonable belief.It’s not an institution, it’s not a collective body. The process is obviously sound. But any group which claims to be “science” is subject to all the same scrutiny as any other group, be it the government, a corporation, anything. But they wear the mantle of “science” as though they were christened by the Demi-God Aristotle himself. Meanwhile, the process of science is being executed more poorly than ever before. Reproducibility of research is at an all time low, and the only way to undertake meaningful research is to court rich donors (I.e. “elites”) who have a vested interest in the research yielding certain outcomes. I don’t believe in whatever the fuck they call science, which is really more a new age orthodoxy that ironically celebrates faith in institutions and shames healthy skepticism.
>>517944508Is this Manosphere in the room with us right now?
>>517949130>it's all subverted bro>you can't trust any source of information but you can trust me, the guy trying to undermine your sense of truth and make you feel despairYou are a textbook kike
>>517944886>We're not equipped with shields? Well then, buckle up!
>use word manosphere unironically in an article, multiple timesOpinion dismissed
>>517944508leftists weaponized science a long time ago.
>>517945050This. I appreciate scientists. I don't appreciate people who like to play social engineer and call it science.I'm a political realist, and I try to consider anything from the perspective of>is there likely to be an ulterior motive behind how this is presentedLying with statistics and politicians flip-flopping on the facts in a way that suspiciously advances their aims have done more to hurt the credibility of science in a shorter time period than any religious fanatic has.
>>517944508All knowledge is based on what we ultimately cannot prove.
>>517949223You get it, science is always changing, it is not a set of beliefs or set in stone ever. Science is not a religion.
>>517944508>I believe the first step out of the maze for young men begins by reasserting to them the virtue of hard workCouldn't make it past this first sentence. Any boomer who unironically believes that "hard work" is going to fix anything is beyond clueless
>>517945785Good work, you won the debate.
>>5179445084 years of Biden bullshit does things to a nigga
>>517944508>faith in sciencelmao
>trust the science Lmao you guys trust a dead kike on a stick to come back from life and give you everlasting life in some made up paradise. How is that any better? Id rather trust science that tells me most followers of abrahamic religions are brown and inbred lmao.
>trust the science goyim
>>517944508every man knows science is wrong abouy masturbation, and useless when it comes to women dressing like whore.our literal penises testify to the worthlessness of most science.
>Why young men are losing faith in scienceCould a replicability crisis that's only grown more severe across the last 20 years, followed up more recently by a growing crisis of outright academic fraud, have anything to do with it?What if we took this seriously like adults, as a crisis of institutional trust, instead of waving it away as a matter of "faith in science"?
>>517949752>don't bother saying anything of substance or value or you'll look like a try hardkill yourself nigger
>>517946626They dont even realize it. That sounds perfectly normal to them.These are the people who lack reason. It isnt present within their ohysical brains. They only act on faith because they are incapable of actually understanding or interrogating reality. They need authorities to order them to be good or theyll flounder around in the wilderness till they die. And to make things worse they have no awareness that this makes them retarded. In fact, they think theyre a cut above the rest, and however retarded they are the rest of humanity is proportionally more retarded. The fact that they kicked out the reality-viewers from their ranks to promote themselves is a secret kept from their egos by their Ids.
>>517946726>manosphere>hereHmmmmHMMMMMMMMM
>>517944508>just trust what the Globohomo ((science)) jews sayNo I will not. I’ll trust my own judgement and objective reality.
>>517944710Lol this. We havent had science in decades
>>517950402>Could a replicability crisis that's only grown more severe across the last 20 yearsOh, if only you knew the full scope of bullshit.
>>517944886IM MADE OF METALMY CIRCUITS GLEAMI AM PERPETUAL I KEEP THE COUNTRY CLEAN
I'm so tired of the kikes constantly whining about the "manosphere" as their reason everyone knows they're evil. What? Was it kike owned Joe Rogan's episode with Bari Weiss or the jew of the week that convinced them society is a kike owned prison?I think all of the employees current and former of the New York Times are quite lucky to not be swinging from lamp posts after the coof. The fucking tone deaf idiocy of these kikes is repulsive and they get worse every day.
>>517946726Just dropping in, once every five years or so. Not "from here" at all, in any sense. I'm above it all, couldn't be more aloof. The people who come here "for fun" are the worst kind of loser. I'm cringing at you.
>the holocaust could not have happened due to the mathematics behind cremation of 6 million bodies within the supposed time frameLOCK HIM UP>there are biological and psychological differences between the races. t. WatsonLOCK HIM UP>trans """""""""""women"""""""""""" are not womenLOCK HIM UPOy, goy, why don't you trust my epic heckerino science XDDDD
>>51794450830 years of "step aside boys, its time for stacey and treylona to get a chance"no surprise men are losing interest when handicapped by the institutions that men originally built
>>517944710Yes. What a concept>pointing out this fact easily wins the debateHmmHMMMMMMLemme really push out a shit with thinking**HMMMMMMMMM**I think thats means the axiom is true or at least more true than the opposing axiom, if all you have to do is point it out and you instantly win.
>>517948276It's pretty reasonable when considering the saga of Merck's Vioxx medication, which was known to cause heart attacks, was passed anyway by the FDA, then when SOME doctors dissented, Merck wrote up a HIT LIST of doctors to attack as being "anti-science"!OK, leaf Rabbi, let's see you "debunk" the facts.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/merck-created-hit-list-to-destroy-neutralize-or-discredit-dissenting-doctors/
>>517951061Not all the bodies were cremated.
>>517944508Nigga's aren't blindly injecting my weird science goo into their veins is it because i make an evil laugh, is it because of my creepy smile? Why won't people trust my science?
>>517944508>the slaves need to start working again>women can be bad slaves too!>but men are more problematic>they don't understand that they aren't allowed to win>how dare they say their benevolents masters are bad! bad goy! BAD!>all bad goys believe in kooky shit that is why they question the masters!>THEY JUST NEED TO WORK HARDER AND BELIEVE IN HARD WORKThere is a massive problem with hobbling science to maintain control: china doesn't fucking care about jews. They just threw their faction out of government when they felt like it.
>>517944508The only thing I believe of science is the Niggersaurus and even thats bullshit
I’m amazed at how these faggots completely fail to accept responsibility for ANYTHING they’ve done. Doesn’t matter what it is they are NEVER even slightly to blame. Could it be that people are sick of the politicization of academia and the blatant selling out of the scientific establishment to wealthy corporate interests? No it must be those evil Joe Rogan Nazis. Jewish “men” are such fucking women lmao
>>517949283He's right. Go look into project mockingbird and then ask yourself why Rogan treats every fucking CIA guy he has on like James Bond. Maybe if you mentioned some no name podcaster that I dont know about as the gold standard, I wouldnt call you out, but Rogan is 1000% compromised. You must not even watch him that much. When you listen to enough episodes it becomes clear that he has this very deceitful, chameleon like interviewing style. I mean christ, his trump interview last year was the definition of softball. A fucking gibbering baby would have asked trump tougher questions. He is a total glownigger clown, wake the fuck up
Young men haven't lost any faith in science, we're more interested in science than any generation that has ever existed. Young men have lost faith in scientists and "The Science."
>>517951455Were millions of corpses dug up?
>>517951752Was this article written by a man? Holy shit, they do all sound like a pack of diseased cunts. I just assumed it was another girl boss cunt blah blahing in the kike family newsletter.
>>517944508>Anocracy claim to ruleship is that they have experts and know what is better for everyone>continue this long enough and the new status class to rise up human hierarchy became to be an expert>the game begins to get rigged so the connect can be experts>experts are now a either class of self-serving retards that claim govern over people>or people obsessed with their vision of how the world should be that sacrifice humans for their vision even in front of the evidence is wrong>claim to rulership is destroyed, anocracy is on a clockis not hard science
>>517944508They never mention the relication crisis. Maybe people don't trust science because it's not fucking science in nearly 50% of cases.
>>517944508>Losing faith in science>FaithThat is scientism, not science.Like global warming, the left have wrapped their desires in a "science" wrapper to trick people into agreeing with them.People are waking up to the con, that is all.
>>517944508>>I believe the first step out of the maze for young men begins by reasserting to them the virtue of hard workEvery article about "young men falling behind" or "what's wrong with young men" is always about keeping men waging.Hard work has no value. If it did, banks and rich people would be hoarding it. Instead they hoard leisure.
>>517944879This. What also started to do it in was social media, particular "I fucking love science" where they would post putrid click bait articles that completely missed the mark every time. t.PHD chemist.
>>517946375First thing I noticed.
>>517944508>Faith>ScienceHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>517957953Kek
>>517946375Me, as well. I love it.
>>517944710> see published science slop> all with a peer review of the same people, all without a guide to reproduce resultsWorthless. Scientific papers should be shortened considerably as well. Nobody cares about literature, introduction etc. Clearly give an outline of method used (without going into all the "whys" that can be an additional context section) and results obtained. The rest is for discussion section. Fortunately LLMs greatly sped up reading science slop and they can even point out all the holes in the paper.
>>517944508>I believe the first step out of the maze for young men begins by reasserting to them the virtue of hard workGOTTA KEEP WORKING HARD FOR THE KIKESGOTTA KEEP WORKING HARD FOR THE ROASTINGGOTTA KEEP WORKING HARD AT THE GYM SO YOU CAN BE READY TO DIE IN A WAR FOR THE KIKES
>>517944886I had this exact idea and drew it on a piece of paper. Good to know Im at the same level of creativity as a ZOGtech engineer.
>>517944710bump
I am actually a scientist focusing on body building specifically so people in meetings can't say no to me or will be too scared to ask me to do things for them.
>>517944508>Pretend the trannies and covid stuff never happened and trust the heckin expertarinos again.>what do you mean you keep seeing evidence of illogical antihuman evil that can only be explained at a spiritual/supernatural level?>that’s an antisemitic conspiracy theory>look we need you to wage and hate Christ and die in wars in the middle least again, what’s it going to take?TKD
>>517944508Science shouldn't be that popular anyway. Scientism is a result of too many millennials being into science, even the dumb ones fucking love science or whatever.
>>517945657>Dunning Kreuger: The Comment these comments are hysterical is this board filled with with 19 year olds? Everyone has the world so figured out !Even the captchas accurate damn
>>517958499He's wrong because he misunderstands male nature. The "masculine man" is a muscledummy and a gymfag. He doesn't care about science.
>>517958439That's Xi Industries actually. These bad boys roll over disobedient chinamen.
>>517948276>It's pretty reasonable for exhausted research scientists not to consider the ideas of incredulous amateurs who know nothing about the topic and have no experienceAnd what about a PhD scientist with the former prefect of the Royal Academy of Science (yeah the people who give out the Nobel price) discovering that science was... exactly that? I have seen this shit, trust me it is worst than you think.
>>517944508>Framing science as a debate to be won makes it easy to paint established scientists as opponents who must be overcome.Is it not? Something is either true or false, it can't be both! Lot of words to say "trust the science goy"
>>517944508>Use science to uphold the most retarded beliefs that directly contradict reality for political reasons>Oy vey! Why don't young men trust the söyence? It must be the manosphereEventually I started to hate them
>>517944886This is some Red Alert shit.
>>517958499>Dunning KreugerThey couldn't manage to replicate that experiment. As a fellow science lover, will that change how you use that phrase in the future?
>>517959263That's the case in rare edge cases. It's about race and theology. You can figure out that on your own.
>>517945868I swear neither Jordan Peterson nor Andrew Tate have been relevant in what feels like two years at least; the only time I hear about them is from people like this complaining that they're causing all boys to become incel Nazi chuds.
>men can be women>women can be men>there's an outbreak of a virus>actually this social movement is more importantyeah, how dare men question science!
>>517946603DEATH IS THE PREFERABLE ALTERNATIVE TO COMMUNISM
>>517944508Bring back rigorous, experiment based science in high school or middle school. Select for the nerds who show the responsibility to safely handle dangerous chemicals. Jocks get to play ball during this time on the sports field or the gym. Also bring back aptitude selection and class separation from at least 1st grade. That was working. Not sorry if this ends up dealing all your precious darkskins out of ruining everyone else's good time.
>>517944508>make science gay and female>arrange it so corporate jobs, university positions, research positions in labs all go to browns and women because DEI>W-WHY ARE MEN REJECTING THESE CAREERS WHERE NOBODY WILL HIRE THEM BECAUSE OF DEI KARENS?It's like the "men checking out" threads. It's not men's fault that the Jews made their Jew buddies running the big companies and their Jew friends in government force this Obama-mandated shit down America's throat. Since COVID basically ZERO jobs in the US have gone to white males - ZERO!No what's happening is white men are checking out of this fake and gay Jewish day care idea of what life is supposed to be like, an idea only cooked up, really, since WWI here in the US. It was an idea that failed, evidently, as the government was not able to sustain a free and fair system.Now that ICE is hiring with no degree needed, and is picking BASED people, we can skip the fake and gay typical University-track that you'd usually have to take before, to get a government job.It's part of Project 2025, page 637, remove or bypass corrupted institutions.
>>517944508>faith>in science The Science really is a full blown religion in this zog hellscape
>>517944508didn't read. but outside of those folks on the internet, in real life the science majors are packed with men.
>>517944710FPBP. Science is the modern religion manufactured by Jews to replace Christianity. >God didn't make the universe>what did?>a big bang or something! Life is meaningless! NOT GOD JUST BECUASE OK??!?!
>>517944508there are no multiple truth
>Losing faith in science Men lost trust in mainstream science when it was shown that democrats weren't above subverting science to pursue their interest. Democrats said that science was telling them that there was more than two genders or that natural immunity didn't work for covid. Two things that everyone knew wasn't true.
>>517961262I argued with a feminist Karen at a pub one time about this, she conceived of science as some sort of big book of irrefutable facts that, once they were published in a journal, became Truth. She lost her mind when I told her about the reproduction crisis, apparently didn't know it existed or assumed I didn't. She wouldn't admit to either logical possibility either.She would not accept that science is a process of making observations, devising a hypothesis, and then coducting an experiment. Nor would she admit that once something was a fact of science, that many times in the past we found out later that fact wasn't a fact at all.This chick was a grad student at a major US university in a hard science field. And she still managed to prefer the feminist sociology-classroom definition of science.
>>517961194no child left behind devaluate highschool diplomas instead of getting everybody to square zero it price gated a basic affirmation of "arriving on time, basic math and literacy"
>>517944508>cutting your penis off makes you a woman>race isn't real>California to be underwater by 2007>healthy at any sizeYea, it's Andrew Tate's fault
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>>517946085>the climate change debate is over>as of 25 years ago>despite 50+ years of failed predictions>nobody can mention the waning of the earth's magnetic field>or the fact that we just watched m87's galactic core flip>let's just keep omitting solar flares, CMEs, the solar proton stream in TSI>make up for the gap with overinflated GHG coefficient>arrange all displays of temp in Anomaly instead of real temp, fuck with baseline
>>517961619>arriving on timeThis is actually a scam by corporations. The ancient Greeks and Romans had a basically timeless society.
>>517944886What the fuck I want one
>>517962068the greeks and romans didn't have proper clocks
>>517946375Yea, they're just retarded kikes. Nazis were some of the greatest engineers to ever live and these modern faggot social scientists have achieved absolutely nothing in their entire existence, and in fact have been wrong about everything.
>>517949074This.
>>517944508It got more political and less reproducible. Modern science is a neolysenkoist mess.
>>517948276/pol/ researches ethnic groups for millions of hours.
>>5179491264 out of 5 dentists recommend Winstons for good gum health and fresh breath!
>>517962187Yes, but they had no interest in inventing clocks because they were culturally timeless. They had even had contact with the Egyptian and Babylonian civilizations which had much more advanced methods of timekeeping (in terms of clocks, calendars, and astronomy) yet the Greeks culturally had no interest in this. I think at one point Athens even banned instruments for celestial observation.
>>517944508Men lost faith in science because women (jews) made it gay as FUCK.>The male tendency to view debates as adversarial contests that must be won at all costs is what may help to create a more alarming antiscience dynamic in the Manosphere.BECAUSE FACTS AREN'T NUANCED YOU DUMB HOLE THEY'RE TRUE OR THEY'RE FALSE
>>517944508>Exercise caution when it comes to fringe experts.
>>517962848The Greeks kept track of time, they just didn't obsess about being precise to the minute. They split the day into 12 hours, and used sun dials and water clocks. They just didn't have a precise numerical system that would allow for "meet me at 3:30 pm".
>>517944508>guest essay>jew york times>the OP is a leafThis is a bad thread. No different than twitter screenshot threads.
>4th sentence in>Joe Rogan is mentioned
>>517963158Yes the Greeks had an incidental technical understanding of things like basic sundials, but again they were absolutely a timeless society. Culturally it was nothing to them. This is true of their sense of history as well. Consider the very first page of Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War:"Indeed this was thegreatest movement yet known in history, not only of the Hellenes, butof a large part of the barbarian world—I had almost said of mankind.For though the events of remote antiquity, and even those that moreimmediately preceded the war, could not from lapse of time be clearlyascertained, yet the evidences which an inquiry carried as far back aswas practicable leads me to trust, all point to the conclusion thatthere was nothing on a great scale, either in war or in other matters."He literary wrote that there were no events of significance prior to the Peloponnesian War. And this from a people familiar with other civilizations! This idea would be absurd in the mouth of a contemporary historian. Only an author from a timeless culture could have written such a thing.Read Spengler's Decline of the West. The fact that the Greeks never developed a number system capable of expressing an infinite continuum (like the real numbers) stems from precisely the same cultural origins as their timelessness. Our own view of ultra-punctuality as objectively good or necessary as a cultural blind spot now exploited by corporations.
>>517944508Skepticism allowed>black holes and neuroscienceSkepticism not allowedmoon landings, ancient technology and climate change.
>>517963478yea lmaoI only read the first two paragraphs, but it sounds like an utter woman moment>i had a slightly unsettling moment once on a plane>everyone's rights need to be curtailed now because of that
>>517960462It's the opposite narrative actually, if you read itHe's being held up as some beautiful bastion of science LMAO
>>517944508Too much politics in science that it can barely be called science. We are in a reproducibility crisis because they just publish papers that meet their political agenda rather than being correct
>>517944508>Gigachud's pencils give SS rune vibes Brilliant.
>>517944710They're not technically lying if they're stupid enough to believe what they say
>>517944508>By Adam Frank>Adam Frank (@AdamFrank4) is a professor of astrophysics at the University of Rochester. He writes the Everyman’s Universe newsletter and is author of “The Little Book of Aliens.”This guy is just butthurt that guys watch Rogan rather than buy his shitty book. This whole article is just an ad
>>517944508>Losing faith in scienceYou can't have "faith" in science, fucking retards. Faith is for religion, the pillar of science is doubting everything. Breaking apart every single thing until you've made every question possible and maybe answered most of them when there's only one possible answer. When someone says they have faith or trust science, you must realize you're not talking to a scientist, you're talking to a brainwashed retard.
>>517946375whatis that supposed to be lightning bolts?that is dumb
>>517964740I thought it was a chick this entire time. Dude writes and talks like a fag.Also his shit's all retarded.
>>517944508Im a young man. I lost respect for education and science when I was in my early teens and they started telling me that men can be women and youre a nazi if you disagree
>>517944508The Science tells me seed oils are healthy, red meat is bad, vaxxed good, high testosterone bad, high estrogen good, carbs good, animal fats bad, eggs bad. Am I supposed to respect The Science after it's obvious it's sold to the highest bidder (the jew)?
>>517956796>Hard work has no value. If it did, banks and rich people would be hoarding it. Instead they hoard leisure.Your hard work has great value for them.If you ask a narcissist who the lazy freeloader is, it's the one the narcissist is abusing and exploiting.Of course, these intellectuals get by via publishing junk science about nothing in their gatekept soience publications. That is a cushy deal. If you told them, "No, you're a piece of shit. Go work in an Amazon warehouse," they would commit suicide. The guy working in the warehouse has no way to become a tenured professor churning out bullshit study after bullshit study for hundreds of thousands of dollars. He's trapped in irrelevance. But the professors have a free money printer that rewards them for their "hard work."In brief, there is a difference between easy work that is overly rewarded and hard work that is punished. The difference is why men are dropping out of society.
be mebrowsing redditsee midwits worshipping “science” like it’s some holy book“a claim is only meaningful if it can be verified by observation”mfw that statement itself can’t be observed or verifiedmfw it’s literally meaningless by its own standardsciencefags never admit their whole worldview runs on assumptions:>external world exists (can’t prove it, just cope)>laws of physics are uniform (lol tomorrow could be different)>senses are reliable (ever had a dream, retard?)none of this is scientific, it’s metaphysical faith they LARP as “rational”midwit tier: 100 IQ redditor smugposting graphs while their entire belief system is built on circular logic“trust the science” = “trust the cope, trust the metaphysics we pretend don’t exist”imagine thinking you’re superior for worshipping your own assumptionslol lmao
Depends, we don't need to debate the social sciences the same way we debate hard sciences. The facts of social sciences, especially the last couple of decades amount to little more than internet arguing. Take the science of any hot button social issue. It is not studied in any neutral way and exists only as a way to force some predetermined praxis.
