Is piracy nigger behavior?
>>518135596how do you feel about ownership?
>>518135596
>>518135596Who owns the media?
>>518135596>niggers>knowing how to turn on a computerlmao
>>518135596I've never bought a game or software in 5 years, I have everything for free and buy crypto instead
no
>>518135680If you purchase a license, you do not own the content that the license grants you access to.If you purchase that content outright, then yes, you own that content. Basic copyright law.
>>518135596piracy was a thing before niggers could afford a PC and a dial up
>>518135596>copying 1's and 0's preventing profits from reaching money grubbing kikesseems based to me
>>518135596yes, I never pirate because jews need to feed and send their kids to elite schools
never saw a nigger at a swap meet
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I pirate even free stuff that is available on youtube
>>518135596No. Data hoarding is based.There are many things that would be lost to time without internet pirates.
>>518135596>you can't use a specific sequence on numbers that is illegalFUCKING RETARDED
>>518135596only if you steel from poor
>>518135596Being anti piracy is both niggered AND kiked
Nigger behavior is impulsive, aggressive, and either opportunistic or irrational. We could call piracy "aggressive" in the sense that it is viewed as a crime against another party; and we can call it "opportunistic" for obvious reasons. However, this type of aggression and opportunism is much more in line with Jewish behavior - deliberate, calculated, indirect. However, both the nigger and the Jew behave this way primarily for material benefit, such as money or land (squatters, West Bank settlers). Piracy is typically done for entertainment purposes, and the crime itself only harms the bottom line of billionaires and corporate entities. It is the insistence on disobeying unjust laws and/or disregarding the will of enemies for the sake of one's own thriving, while considering the moral cost of the acts so as to not be unjust themselves. tl;dr: piracy is White behavior.
>>518135596Copyright is nigger behavior, a white man always shares.
>>518135596torrenting is nigger behavior. using sftp on a glftpd topsite server is patrician
>>518135596No. Corporate slavery is Jewish behavior.
>>518135596I upload more than I download. There might a fren in the world that might need a rare torrent.
>>518135596Not when you're pirating from nigger lovers.The music isn't inspired by their love of niggers bit the person behind it just sucks and I'm not giving him money. I'll take his music but he can go fuck himself. I pay things from people I respect
>>518135911These are the things stopping one from 'ownership'> A piece of paper> Pixles on a screen> pedos who are payed with tax money> people with guns protecting said pedos (also payed by taxes) > criminals
I am not stealing a car, fuck off OP.
>>518135596niggers are a burden on taxpayers, piracy isn't really the same. I'm splitting hairs though, the problem is that they don't belong here.
>>518135596you making this thread is nigger behavior
>>518135596internet is for sharing, that's the reason it exists
Probably not, by your logic. Owning people is nigger behavior but it's spelt Ginner.
>>518135680fpbp. it's the high seas for me matey.>>518135911copyright law is right of intellectual property. once you sell that property it becomes mine by default. applying copyright to a product i purchased is jewish behaviour.
The only media I pay for is either antisemitic or made by people I know personally.
>>518135596Yes, Anglos are niggers. They used to pirate from the Spaniards.
>>518135596I pirate everything and dont even use a VPN i think they are all Jewish scams
>>518135596no, my cat pissing all over my house is nigger behavior. fucking little bastard
>>518137447that's one nice fucking kitty
>>518137560Just good luck
>>518136623never had any topsite invites fml
>>518136938When you purchase a movie, music, games, etc, you are purchasing a license, not a product. Your claim is categorically false. If you do not want to be subject to the terms of the licensing agreement, you are free to simply not purchase the license and not view the content.
>>518136281this is the correct answer. not pirating is for niggers. pirates are organized and clever.
>>518135596>Is piracy nigger behavior?no, buying the same madden/nba game every year is
>>518135596No it's anti Kike behavior. Every movie and song you torrent a Kike isn't getting paid
>>518135596Piracy is never wrong
>>518137697Me neither, I think, blogging was weird
>>518136098
>>518135596nope. giving money to jews for dogshit products is more in line with nigger behavior
>>518137447Mine does the same and I'm not going to castrate him, I'd rather clean piss than chop his balls off
>>518135596no, in germany its mandatory.we have to pay a fee on any storage device (even paper) because it could be used to copy or store pirated content. to protect content industry from falsely accusing me of pirating i have to pirate for real otherwise these poor jews become liars.
>>518135596Is Intellectual Property intentionally a Kike Usury of Ideas?>Are you retarded?
>>518135596The media jews deserve to be pirated
>>518135596piracy = theftonly poors, commies, thieves, parasites pirate, which basically a non-white behavior (specifically gypse pajeet kike behavior), thus they are practically non-whites. And i'm tired to pretend it isn'tthere are convincing proofs for this
>>518138782How does that work if for example you bought a hdd from Ebay UK ?Or got an English friend to send you one a present?
>>518138898You sound like you have some foreskin in the game Moshe
>>518135596no if it's woke games like tlous 1 and 2, and if it's kike movies like everything the West produces. So pretty much no
Yes. Because if you are mad at a product for being bad why are you even playing/watching it? When I see new AAA shit flop I laugh and move on. I don't have to try it to form an opinion, I have eyeballs. If you're broke you are a nigger and I revoke whatever whiteness you think you have.
>>518138898By all means, rent your netflix slop, pay every month forever. I'm just not going to, hahaha.
>>518136140Ah, you are a man of culture such as myself>>518138782Also very based. The Jews thank you.
>>518135596Yeah bro it’s Aryan as fuck to be the goodest goy and pay for a million subscription services
>>518137447>>518138607What kind of nigger lets a cat piss in the house?
>>518135596I pirate all my anime, movies, and music. Jews ain't getting a cent from me.
>>518135911Then you would be happy with just license for my money not ownership (I revoked it btw).
>>518137854If you aren't agreeing with license terms for my money then you are free to not enter agreement of that payment (I still get you product btw thank to pirate bay, hehehe).If license is not ownership then privacy isn't stealing. Simple as
>>518135596sorry what? couldn't hear through you gurgling on american cock
No one's property gets stolen, so no.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rrkXE3oXQ
>>518135596according to the rips i see apparently it's Italian and French behavior
>>518135596Nope
>>518139051manufacturer or the vendor importing it to germany has to pay, well in the end the customer pays anyway. depending on the item the extra shipping fee isnt worth it in most cases, also could get trouble with customs if its send by a friend from foreign country. content jew is strong here. totally fucked up
>>518136496squatters?
>>518135596No, it's Giga Chad behavior
>>518139129eat shit wog.not a kike, I denounce the talmud, all kikes are pedophiles. all jews will burn to ashes, israel will cease to exist, bibi's head will be chopped and put on a pike! Juice emojiMost of pirated materials are White made medias, the only thing that matters, handcrafted as masterpiece by Whites. They deserve all the profits from their hardwork. Pirating White-made medias are theft! If you pirate it, you are no different than subhuman non-whitesPirating non-white made media theoretically is justified to bleed their profit (let shitskins pirate it as they like). But again, all non-white medias are useless, nothing but brainrot degeneracy, addictive vices, absolute lies. It's a waste of time and bandwidth. You don't touch non-white media to begin with!You fucking know one game is pozzed with kike nigger gayfaggotry. Do you still going to play it? Absolutely No! Then, why the fuck you pirate it if you never want to play it in the first place? Same with this nigger>>518139313 never subscribe to pozzed kike subscription ever.>>518138834Yes, but again jewish media are poison. You never want to touch it.tldr. what race creates itWhite one? buy, subscribenon-white one? avoid it! (just goad non-whites to pirate it!)
Depends, is buying not owning?
>>518140217Ah I seeI know you have very active copyright lawyers that grift anyone using torrents without a vpn.
>>518139456a white one
>>518139985That is theft, and your rebuttal is a non-sequitur. You are stealing intellectual property.
which torrent search site is the go to now that pirate bay is limited as shit in results?
>>518135596i literally never watch anything on a non pirated website
THEYRE PIRATING MY NUDESAHHHHHH
>>518137854>you are free to simply not purchase the license and not view the content.yes that's why i own every form of entertainment for free. it's not theft, it's redistribution.
yall pay for porn?
>>518135596I only purchase games I finished before. How do I know if I will enjoy the product if I can't try it. I pirate every tv show because I don't like hollywood.
>>518141603Only commissions
>>518141650arent you original>>518141686and noble
>>518135596>microsoft locks framerate of streamed games behind paywall. no, piracy is anti kike activism. even retro gaming is anti kike activism. one is a rejection of the system of slop distribution alone, while the second is a rejection of that and the slop itself. metal gear solid was fantastic, if companies want my money they should make better products instead of attempting to rob me.
When I torrent I always wait until I upload twice as much as I downloaded before I delete the torrents
>>518135596Piracy isn't. The people that rat you out over retarded IP laws are though.
>>518141187Property by definition is something which you would lose if another person were to gain it.You can't own a random sequence of 1s and 0s, Moshe. Not even the talmud dreamt up that method of scamming gentiles
>thieves r jelly of the internets skillz
>>518135596no'Stealing from the rich to give to the poor' is peak British History and therefore chuddish.
>>518142312strangethought the countries u empire over are poor
>>518135596the entire monetary system is nigger behaviour so it's hard to say.
>>518135596>nooo you can't just have that particular sequence of 1's and 0's written on your hardware that you own unless you pay me shekels for it grrrr >:(
>>518135596No. Buying jewish media is.
>>518135680I feel if companies don't allow us to own property -- theft is a totally logical option. Rent-seeking behavior is checked with straight plunder and lucre.
>>518135596Yes.
>>518141491It's not free, you are stealing.
fucking zoomers are taught to buy pixels and feel good about itim 35 yo and for me its a sign of generational retardation if in one generation people are taught its normal to buy RIGHT TO WATCH (NOT EVEN OWN) PIXELS THAT JEWS CAN TAKE AWAY FROM YOU ANY MOMENT BECAUSE OF SOME BULLSHIT REASON WITH NO RETURN LOOOL
>>518144277You are purchasing a license. It is not a "RIGHT TO WATCH", it is a license. When you rent a car, you do not own the car. When you rent a piece of media, you do not own the media. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
>>518143036Pretty much. What is it we own? They just want want to squeeze as much fake currency out of us as they can. Entertainment media is ran on thin profit margins, blowing huge budgets to make these films.. they get so mad when one or two people see them without paying an arm and leg. There is a reason theaters are dying.
>>518144393fuck off with your trickery fucking kikeyour tribe always think it can pave its way out of any shit with substitution/euphemisms/change of words as if no one can see through your bullshit
>>518135596Very little of any media is worth anything anyway, so many people will only watch something if it’s free, they simply will not pay for it
>>518145052It's not a trick, that's how licensing works retardYOU DO NOT FUCKING OWN WHAT YOU LEASE.
>>518135596There's a reason they enforce piracy laws particularly on businesses. That's where the real dough comes from. Even they know the average pleb cannot necessarily afford their bullshit. Let the corpo offices and jewtubers who make money off of it pay for the content.
>>518135596not seeding a torrent is nigger behavior
>>518135596No.Mainly because you never really own the digital copy if you buy it. So, fuck em.
here you go if you wanna learn to torrentnot that there's anything worth torrenting except old stuff
>>518145311FUCK OFF WITH YOUR TRICKERY FUCKING KIKEPEOPLE USED TO OWN THINGSYOU BOUGHT A FUCKING CD WITH A GAME AND DO ANYTHING YOU LIKE WITH ITNOW YOU BUY GAME AND HAVE TO LINK IT TO YOUR FUCKING ACCOUNTACCOUNT GETS BANNED WITH ALL YOUR FUCKING GAMES GONE BECAUSE YOU CALLED A FUCKING KIKE A KIKE
>>518135852this. it's our civic duty to rob the jew (we copied 1s and 0s in the same pattern)
>>518135596Both.Watchmoviesonline and going through a terabyte of malware to watch a shit tier compressed stream is ultimate nigger.Having a dedicated NAS with Prowlarr/Sonarr/Radarr on Jellyfin/Plex to have no DRM media all in one place accessible everywhere is peak chad
>>518135596>paying for propaganda slopKek!
>>518135596Nothing wrong with digital privacy.If you copy a digital work you aren't depriving the original owner of anything.If you take an apple in person, that is stealing because you can't duplicate that apple.
>>518135596There's no such thing as intellectual property.
>>518135803lmao, real
>>518145311I own what is in my physical possession. Come and "revoke my license, faggot".
>>518135596Their IQs are too low for that.
>>518135596no, but paying a monthly subscription for games you don't own, and then another subscription to play those games online, definitely is.
>>518135596Im not paying 60 dollars for a shitty game I'll forget exists in a weekIf that makes me a nigger, I'm black as coal
I pirate everything and I seed never. Not caught once and have been doing this behavior for 10+ years.
>>518146169If you don't like the licensing agreement, simply don't agree to it, move onto other games.
>>518135596>Is piracy nigger behavior?since they choose not to offer their good movies for sale in DRM free digital format I don't give a fuck
>>518135596That a "hard arrrgh" joke?
>>518135596No. Corpos violated the NAP when they started serving ads on paid services, so fuck ‘em.I’ve even gone full tilt and started pirating music and software again. Full adobe graphics suite for free and whatnot.
>>518151339>violated the NAP by serving adskek, no way you actually believe this retarded shit
>>518151398I paid specifically not to be served ads. That was always the value proposition from the start, then they changed the terms. Fuck them all into the dirt,I do still carry a Spotify sub for listening to in the car, mainly for podcasts, but also to find new music, but I’m making moves for the eventuality where their shareholders start steering Spotify to start serving ads on that paid service.
>>518151398ads degrade your service quality
>>518151339Based. hope you got private trackers, fren. it really changes the game.>>518151398kill yourself you greasy rat kike
>>518151647>>518151693And they decided to no longer provide the service without ads. It is entirely within your control to end the licensing agreement at any time.
>>518151794spotify is shit, it requires internet connection and has censorship, I have my local library that doesn't censor the collections because of political reasons
>>518151727Picked up a vpn service for my downloading rig, and set up an NAS at the house that I move the media to.
>>518145311>>518150113It’s too hard for them to grasp to buy a game that doesn’t ask you to do such things. He’s also a complete fucking retards as a lot of physical games don’t need a connection to play online.
>>518151896Yes, a library, where you have to return books when you're done with them. You don't get to just copy them and do whatever you want willy nilly. It isn't your book, it isn't your song, it isn't your video game, it isn't your movie.
>>518135596>Is piracy nigger behavior?
>>518145311Fuck off kike. You will have no where to run. Even the normies are catching up to your tricks.
>>518151998??? retard, I mean, *my* local library, not the municipal library
>>518140326>hates information on the "enemy" Shalom Goyim.
>>518151794>And they decided to no longer provide the service without ads.That sounds solely like a shareholder problem. I have absolutely no issue with ads being served on ‘free’ services. Where I drew the line on what I would and would not pay for was when they started serving ads. It’s taking two bites at the apple, and there is no way to jewsplain it in a way that will convince me otherwise.Got quite the collection together, so I won’t need to pay for tv (and music soon probably) ever again. Cope and seethe moshe.
>>518152539That's not a shareholder problem. They are licensing the content to you. In that license, it states that they are allowed to change the licensing agreement. You are free to end the licensing agreement at any time. You are not losing anything by ending the licensing agreement, because the content you were given access to was not yours to begin with. It is called a license for a reason.
>>518152658>In that license, it states that they are allowed to change the licensing agreement.illegal here, null and void, you MUST present the license before sale or there is no license at all
>>518135596no: claiming you can somehow own ideas is what's nigger behaviorjew behavior tooand of course, faggot behavior, since both the formers are so
>>518152873Every service has them and presents them to you when you sign up for an account.https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/end-user-agreement/https://www.hulu.com/subscriber_agreementhttps://brand.netflix.com/en/terms/https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/https://www.youtube.com/static?template=termsIf these services are available in Sweden, then yes, this agreement is legal there.
>>518152658Why do I give a fuck about the license even I am not using the service? Netflix, Hulu, etc are all content delivery platforms. There are a million ways to procure content that do not require their services, so their license means precisely fuck all.The value proposition was always ‘our service will safely curate content and deliver it to you for a reasonable monthly fee’. It started off without ads being included, and once they changed the terms to include ads, then it was a much simpler calculus to find other ways to procure content that I chose to consume.Yo ho ho nigger.
>>518153145you must present the terms before the sale or there are no termsterms not presented before the sale are null and void in our courts
I wish I could share my Plex server with you guys, but alas, that'd be foolish cause someone is always a dubious nigger.
>>518135596Is paying to support industries who hate you caucasian behavior?
>>518153275These terms are ubiquitously presented immediately before a sale is made.There isn't a single reputable service that doesn't include these terms before the sale is made. Additionally, these terms grant them the right to change the terms of the agreement, with given notice. You are notified before any additional changes are made to the agreement, and you can cancel at any time if you do not like the new terms of the agreement.
>>518135680YOU DON'T OWN NUFFIN GOYIM
>>518153652I don't even have spotify installed, its fucking garbageI have my own local library that works offline
>>518135596I pirate because I refuse to be a DRM golem.
>>518153270Content delivery platforms are what producers use to display the content they own. If you are "procuring" it in any other way that isn't done so without the copyright holder's explicit consent, you are engaging in copyright infringement (aka theft of intellectual property).
>>518153814You could simply just not steal instead
>>518135596I don't care I barely consoom content
>>518135852there's a lot of jewish media product out there i wouldn't even pirate, they couldn't pay me to consume or useis it really piracy is the product has a negative cost that surpasses the purchasing price? i dont think so at all
>>518153857>you are engaging in copyright infringement (aka theft of intellectual property).honestly, I couldn't care less, they don't offer their back catalog items for sale so they don't get money for them
>>518141187The concept of "owning" and idea is entirely a legal fiction. It's is unnatural, and generally abhorrent to anyone without jewish blood.
>>518153896the drm like denuvo is theft in a way, it's a burden and for what? ass creed 9000? no one is even willing to steal that shit, that's why ubishit is going bankrupt, that's why ea is going back to privateit's all fake and gay like you, and none of it is working out
>>518154037>well you arent using your car, therefore it's okay for me to use it without your permission!
>>518154116they only constructed this legal pilpul so that they would assume a financial monopoly over it allit's not to protect the ip or ideas, they whore that shit out themselves by rehashing all of their media every 5-10 years anyways, because they're all creatively bankrupt fools
>>518154116I'd pay good money to have access to complete disney cartoon library in high quality from the very beginning up until 1990s but they don't want money for them
>>518154179honestly, I don't give a shit, I offered good money to those subhumans they choose not to have a businessold disney cartoons are good, they refuse to sell them
>>518135596Digital data is not a physical commodity. It should not be allowed to be traded for physical currency indefinately.If you want to make a business out of your "intellectual propety" - sell physical product.Otherwise, if you intend to sell digital-only product globally, come in terms with the fact that it can be shared globally too by people who already bought it.And honestly, foreign digital-only product acquisition should be taxed to death in every sane country.
>>518135596If you can't own the things you purchase, piracy isn't theft. More theft is a deprivation of property. Intellectual Property isn't Property, hence the qualifier.
>>518154179in that given context the car would have to be inoperable and not available for sale anywhereyour whataboutisms don't even holdseriously fuck off nigger, you're too stupid for this casual convo
>>518153857Blah blah blah. Not my problem.
>>518135680Somewhere someone owned it and let me borrow it.
>>518154228All IP rights ultimately included some mechanism to release the IP back to the public, because it was understood by all jurists who studied natural rights that an idea cannot be captured. Were here because Disney (after the jews took it over) took the 5 year limit on copyrights and lobbied it into "the life of the author plus 70 years". It's sickening.
>>518154578>Were here because Disney (after the jews took it over) took the 5 year limit on copyrights and lobbied it into "the life of the author plus 70 years". It's sickening.achsually those extensions are illegal, retroactive laws are not allowed
>>518135596If it is I'm the blackest nigger everThank you Pirate Bay and RIP Torrentz you saved me.
>>518154578it's more sickening than you knowthey basically did a parasitic takeover of a giant kid's park that they know kid's can't resist and whored it out entirely, and i mean that in more way than one with what they do to all their child actors, those actors specifically became a vector for much worse degeneracy, and picrel is one of the milder ones
>>518135596Intellectual property is jewish behavior, so no.
>>518154677Not properly ex post facto, the statutory change only affected works which were currently then subject to copyright and not those which had already passed into the public domain.>t iplawfag
>>518136496Piracy is done for material benefit, retard
>>518135596Not necessarily, but consooooming goyslop absolutely is.
>>518135596nopiracy is stealing from the jewtherefore it is /pol/ approved
>>518151647What do you mean ads on Spotify, it has no ads. I never see ads on internet, where did you get ads
>>518151693And use your bandwidth so you pay to watch ads kek
>>518135596financially supporting hollywood is satanic, and ritualistically ties you directly to the satanic abuse of children.If anything paying for a ticket to see a movie has damned you to hell for all eternity.
>>518154928Disney named the jew, and wanted to build an American mythology that counted their holocaust bullshit. He was an ardent anticomminist with a particular hatred of the boshevicks in entertainment. The jews made it their mission to corrupt his works specifically because his Art was, in fact, Art. That and we can't have kids growing up with romantic notions about what America was and could be - a nation of innovators, artists, farmers, warriors, and pioneers form the best of European stock whose loyalties lay with God, family, and country in that order.
>>518138782What if you create an underground railroad with trains to deliver pirated movies?
>>518146090that's a whole lot of effort when i could jsut go to nyaa.si to download my animus
>>518135596I could fully explain the process of how to pirate movies and software to a nigger, and he would reply "I aint finna mess wit all dat".
>>518154116You only say that because you have no ideas of your own so you want to steal it from others
>>518135596>stealing from jewish corporations is nigger behaviour
>>518155292Spotify free has ads. The paid services currently don’t.
>>518155464America is a country of Mutt golems though
>>518155627Go ahead and explain what your concept of ownership is. How do you own something?
>>518155698Mutts yes, golems is a more recent condition. One Disney was striving to prevent. He died in 1966.
>>518155680>Spotify free has ads.Where ? I don't see any and I use free version
>>518135596The only products you can actually own is cash and printed books. Everything else you don't actually own and over the years it's only gotten worse. DVDs were the last media format I would consider ownership since every laptop and desktop could play them as well as rip them easily. Same with CDs. And DVD players ended up being cheaper and easy to get. Blu Ray was when it started going south. Desktops and laptops never widely adopted them and players were expensive. Plus the issue with fake 1080p/4K. Now everything is streaming and you don't have control over it and none of it is worth playing for. Microsoft I believe is going to make piracy popular.
I love how chudies are unironic boot lickers.
>>518155856You own things that you can legally sell or charge other people for using it.If you do it illegally that's theft
>>518156124You have shitty ads between songs. I actually didn't mind it for a while until the ads were straight up horrid and started using SpotX.
>>518155989>golems is a more recent condition.He doesn't know
>>518156253>You have shitty ads between songs.Nope. Never saw one.
>>518156240By your definition real estate brokers are the owners of he houses they sell and bankers are the owners of the money they hold in trust. Your understanding of ownership is retarded.
>>518156402Theirs an ad every three songs so I know your lying. The point of premium is for your songs not to be interrupted and unlimited skips.
>>518156351You don't consider the last hundred years recent?
>>518156402Wdym ‘see’ the ads? There are audio ad breaks between songs on the free service tier. Not every song mind you, but after a few songs, there will be an audio ad break to serve up 30-60 seconds of ads.
>>518156846Hey retard.>You have an idea (you composed a song)>You write sheet music for it>You copyright it>It's yours>Now everybody who wants to perform, record or publish the sheet for that song has to pay you royalties.It's that simple.As for your retarded pilpul>By your definition real estate brokers are the owners of he houses they sell No, by my definition the owner of the house is selling the house and he's the owner of the house.Broker isn't selling the houseBroker can't sell the house without the owner's permission YOU FUCKING IMBECILEBroker definition is literally "the one who acts as an agent for others", CRETIN
>>518157122>>518157327There are no ads of any kind anywhere You guys are retarded
>>518157236No I don't, especially for a country that's 250y old. It might be recent for China or India.Anyway you wanna go further ? No problemo.
>>518135680Creator and owner are not the same thing retards
How can it be nigger behavior when niggers can't figure out how to do it?
>>518135596>stealing from kikes nigger behavior? It’s the purest form of white that exists
What are some decent pirated streaming sites with good audio quality? I'm tired of lousy sound desu And before you call me a thieving negro: I currently subscribe to 6 legal platforms.
I can pirate anything I want because I have the express written consent of Major League Baseball
>>518159529>And before you call me a thieving negro: I don't see why would I do that>I currently subscribe to 6 legal platforms.You're a cuck though>What are some decent pirated streaming sites with good audio quality? What's the point of that ? You either download or listen to YT or radio or anything
>>518135596Stock markets are rigged against the people (see GME), markets cheat us at every chance, and the USG us admits to offering military equipment to make movies and using that leverage to inject propaganda. That's just want's know in how my US taxpayer money is illegally used to produce movies, and with all the subtle propaganda that is clearly injected with a long-term goal in mind, indicating conspiracy with the USG, I say I already paid for the fucking movies, bitch.And that's if I believed magically "copying" something was 'stealing'. If you like the propaganda so much, if it's the sugar that makes your world spin, sure, feel obliged to pay for the slop twice. I didn't even bother pointing out copyrights and how they are typically someone else's invention repackaged. Find something more worthwhile to whinge about.
>>518135911Copyright law (at least modern copyright law) is jewish pilpul designed to strip rights away from people. Imagine condemning me as a criminal because I legally buy a movie, and then rip a copy to my PC because your shoddy disk was poor quality and started wearing. >NOOO YOU CAN'T KEEP WATCHING THE MOVIE, YOUR LICENSE IS REVOKED WHEN THE DISK BREAKS, GO BUY THE MOVIE AGAIN ON GOYFLIXAnd don't forget the rest of the idiocy of jewish copyright law. Like how romhacks and mods are illegal because they're "derivative works" or how you can't modify or extract files from a game. And don't even think of making fan games.
>>518135596no, digital is virtually infinitely abundant.
>>518135596Just fucking stream. Use Russian search engines to find streaming sites and niche movies. Downloading shit to keep is weird. Stop watching so much jewish pedowood slop.
>>518135859>5 yearsRookie numbers. I'm on 20.
>>518157898>>518156240Your post said>you own things you can legally sellBrokers can legally sell houses they do not ownBankers legally sell loans using money they do not ownYour definition is in fact retarded. The hallmark of ownership is the ability to exclude. In your stupid hypothetical about sheet music, if I listen to your performance and perfectly reproduce it from memory what royalty do I owe you? What if I decide to make my own copy of it from my own memory? Am I not entitled to sell it?
>>518135596no, even pirates have standards, no one is gonna pirate cyberpoop 2077
>>518135596I haven't been on xbox in months. I had just logged on yesterday, and found out microsoft removed films and tv shows from it's store back in July. The places to buy/rent movies or tv shows is dwindling. This is why I get physical copies of things.
Everything good in moderation
>>518161354>Imagine condemning me as a criminal because I legally buy a movie, and then rip a copy to my PC because your shoddy disk was poor quality and started wearing.That's not illegal>NOOO YOU CAN'T KEEP WATCHING THE MOVIE, YOUR LICENSE IS REVOKED WHEN THE DISK BREAKS,Say you buy a car and wreck it and then go steal the same model because you already paid for that design. Are you stupid ?>you can't modify or extract files from a game.Why don't you make your own files, chuddy
yes. vikings would never steal bro.
>>518135596Intellectual property is a make believe idea and I am not bound by reason or duty to respect it.
>>518162427>Based Thoreau respector.
>>518161929>Brokers can legally sell houses they do not ownNo they can't retard. >If a broker wants to sell the house that you own - he can't.>If you want to sell the house that you own - you can>You may call a broker to broker the deal>Broker, noun, is an agent acting on your behalf, he is NOT the seller>Brokering, verb, is arranging or negotiating the agreement between the seller and the buyer, NOT selling>Broker will get a commission that is a fraction of the property value (5% or so)In your retarded world, however:>A broker sells a house for 100k>Keeps 5k and gives the rest awayYou are truly a retarded low IQ nigger scum of the Earth
>>518162086>That's not illegalYes it is. It's specifically circumvention of copy protection and DRM, which is a federal offense under the DMCA. Also, it violates the EULA of any company that sells their media, as every single one stipulates that you're not allowed to modify, disassemble or reverse-engineer their games. And fair use/personal use is not protected.>Say you buy a car and wreck it and then go steal the same model because you already paid for that design. If I can recreate the exact same car out of thin air, from a car I already bought, what have you lost? Your definition of stealing is flawed, because not only am I not depriving a copy from someone else, but the company already got their due. At this point you're just pissed off because you want more money, and you're angry that I circumvented your planned obsolescence.>Why don't you make your own files, chuddyI tried with fan games, got DMCA takedowns. I tried with original games, got sued because corporations patented every game mechanic in existence. Golly gee, you wonder why people stop respecting copyright.
>>518138223ipt has always been terrible
>>518135596No, because companies are dishonest merchants. They peddle digital and online goods (movies, shows/series, books, music, games etc) for us to consume. And yet when we purchase it we technically only recieve a license to use the copy of it, we do not own the copy of it. This fact is almost never disclosed except in the licensing agreements often seen in the start screens of games or similar places.Pirating only takes one copy and distributes it freely to others. In a sense I am taking for free what should be mine anyways because, say if my account were banned on whatever platform, Steam, Xbox, etc, then I would also lose access to said games or other digital goods. The company reserves the right to take away the product that I rightfully and legally paid for, so I reserve the right to pirate whatever I please.It is completely different from stealing an item a physical good that cannot be digitally copied, from a store. That is poor behavior and is actually real theft.
Culture should not only be for those able to afford itThe poor would never be able to afford it nor are they stealing any profits from the creatorsThe creators are also jewish as well as creatively bankrupt; willing to make dogshit for moneyYou deserve nothing for art and if someone is willing to pay for a copy which you don’t even legally ownGood for you, I guessYou’re not entitled to anything but simultaneously you are not entitled to my tax dollars protecting and punishing the poor for not being able to enjoy things >Inb4 someone intentionally conflates my argument with genuine theft in which someone’s stuff is taken from them and they no longer possess it or their profits are takenSuck my dick faggot
>>518135596I just downloaded Batman Year one. Pretty good. Also gonna keep watching Boston Legal. Comfy show. I bet Allan Winds up with the Blond with the shiny hair. Tara is the most attractive one though. Then blond girl, then sally. Shatner and Spader are excellent together. >Denny Crane
>>518135596>Is piracy nigger behavior?No. You don't get to tell me what to do with my own property. If I want to arrange the bits on a magnetic platter in a particular way, you don't get to be a leftoid and screech that you own that "pattern". I own that platter, I can do what I want.
>>518135596As someone who likely loses 2/3 of their potential revenue to piracy (I've seen statistics from others in the field and going from no DRM -> DRM leads to 2.5x more profit) ...I don't blame the pirates themselves. You'll get a lot of white nerds pirating too. It's just hard to compete with $0.Because nobody actually stops piracy (except big corps, who are the only ones who can) and piracy is becoming easier and easier, we've entered a day and age where gaming has become>free mobile game!>but it's always online>and you should buy $1000 in microtransactionsinstead of>cool game>$20>purchase only oncebecause the latter just isn't very viable nowadays.It's a cultural problem to some degree but it's just kind of inevitable.
>>518135680Piracy is the reason that you don't get to own shit anymore.If you could own shit, people would pirate it. That's why everything is live service.I like ownership.
>>518162672All that extra shit to cover up the critical pont that the broker conducts the sale on behalf of the actual owner, whereas your definition of ownership says the owner is the one who legally sells. If the broker legally sells (which he does, on behalf of the true onwner) then the broker must be the owner by your definition. If you want to change your definition of ownership to fit how the world actually works that would be a good start. Say for example, an owner is someone who can confer a right to sell. Thats closer, but not sufficient. Your definition of ownership is simply faulty. This fault in your understanding of ownership leads you to belive that people can own ideas, presumably this is a feature of your jewish heritage.
>>518162952True story: I bought a copy of GTA on steam... IV? Whichever one is older and runs on linux well now. Anyways, I never played the online version hardly ever. Fired it up once while drunk as shit, and apparently some hacker was literally 'tossing' in-game objects to my character 'giving' me hacked assets in-game. I was too drunk to even know what was going on, as GTA online was way too face paced for my drunk ass. I log off and forget about it (again, hardly ever signed in to play the game). Years later, I get Red Dead 2, try to play it online and find out I got my account perma-banned for something I never consented to, nor ever took advantage of. I will never buy another rockstar game again. Matter of fact, haven't paid for any games since. Fuck rockstar, and fuck moralizing shitstains pretending there's no context that explains why people should pirate this shit.
>>518163321>it's your fault that you protected yourself from evil corporations who would reduce everything to live service slop>let them rape and kill you, otherwise they'll rape and kill you even moreNow that's an abusive relationship.>>518163209This rings especially true if you already bought the property, and then they have the audacity to tell you what you're allowed to do with it. You got my money, who the hell are you to continue dictating my purchase?
>>518163283The latter isn't viable becauseA: Your business model is trashB: Content delivery platforms siphon ~30% of your revenueC: The market is saturated
>>518162737>It's specifically circumvention of copy protection and DRM, which is a federal offense under the DMCA.That would make MP3 players illegal back in a day but they were not. I think you're wrong, do you have a link to the explicit law ?You can upload it to your device but you can't share it is the way I understand.>If I can recreate the exact same car out of thin air, from a car I already bought, what have you lost? >out of thin airYou are delusional. Let's say I can make you the exact same car in my little factory that's unaffiliated with the brand you bought from. Would that be OK ? Would it be OK if I keep making those and selling them, with the same logo as theirs and all ?>I tried with original games, got sued because corporations patented every game mechanic in existence. Well that's fucked up if true. Anyway my point is that a lot of chuds want to extract files but then>Somebody else puts in the work>You just take it>They don't get compensation for their workThat's parasitism ant the parasites do it because they can't make their own shit. If they could they would immediately change the tune and demand more copyright. Do you think it makes sense ?
>>518163454>Your business model is trashThat's exactly what I just said. People aren't selling ownership of products anymore because that business model is trash now.>Content delivery platforms siphon ~30% of your revenueThat's true and there's not a lot we can do about it. Some people make their own sites and do shit on their own but those are a minority.>The market is saturatedTrue. But I'd rather the weak get culled and the strong continue making good, consumer-friendly products instead of the market becoming dominated by slop.
>>518135596If you could watch anything with one subscription, piracy would go down.
>>518163367>the critical pont that the broker conducts the sale >on behalf of the actual owner (the seller)Yes, my point exactly.He's a broker, he's not the seller
>>518163321There are still plenty of things to pirate. And when I finish the download, I own it. That's real ownership. Exclusive possession of a thing, not some idea floating in space lol. I don't care if some schlub "worked" at arranging 1s and 0s. Don't do it, then.
>>518163430>This rings especially true if you already bought the property, and then they have the audacity to tell you what you're allowed to do with it. You got my money, who the hell are you to continue dictating my purchase?I do piracy research. Last year I pirated a web app for the first time. There was a free 1 week trial, but after that you'd be expected to pay for a $350/year one-seat license. I spent that week writing javascript to toss into the dev tools console, turning all their data into a json file, and reproducing their interface (with improvements) in local html/javascript. Now it's just a html file that runs locally in a tab (the json was a little big, like 45 megs, so it's a separate file). I was a little bit proud of that.I've been working on how to implement Bittorrent's latest standards on updateable torrent swarms. It would be a game-changer if torrent clients started to support that... you'd get a single torrent for a tv show, and the creator of the swarm could add new episodes as they became available. No more repack bullshit either.
>>518163700So you agree with me then that your definition of ownership is retarded - because your definition of ownership makes the broker the owner.
>>518135596Yu VILL own everythingz, and yu vill be HAPPYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXbzktx1KfU&list=RDiXbzktx1KfU&start_radio=1
>>518163392Wait>You BOUGHT the game>Went online to play it>You can't bcs banned >Thanx for the money, goyThat should be fucking illegal.Did you get a refund ?Can you make a new account and play anyway ?
>>518163494>That would make MP3 players illegal back in a day but they were not. I think you're wrong, do you have a link to the explicit law ?https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201Anything with copy protection is thus unable to be extracted from the disk or cartridge.>You are delusional. Let's say I can make you the exact same car in my little factory that's unaffiliated with the brand you bought from. Would that be OK If I paid the company that owned the car, yes it would be okay. It'd be no different from me fixing the car myself, instead of buying a new one. That also deprives them of profit, is that wrong? Especially if the car is licensed under an EULA contract that states that I'm not allowed to fix it for whatever reason.>Would it be OK if I keep making those and selling them, with the same logo as theirs and all ?At what point in this convo did I imply that I wished to utilize piracy for commercial and non-personal use?>That's parasitism ant the parasites do it because they can't make their own shit. If they could they would immediately change the tune and demand more copyright. Do you think it makes sense ?So the solution is to just give corporations sweeping power and protections from the government, turning everything into perpetual licenses and subscriptions?
>>518163799Still plenty of things, yet I see games chats swamped in gachashit.Someone who pirated games in 2015 will now spend $1000 on gacha rolls.Maybe you don't fall for it but many other people do.Every time someone whines about the industry, all the sweet baby inc. games and the pozzed shooters, maybe stop and thinkthere's no point making games for people who don't pay for games. Might as well market your game to the audience that actually pays, right?
>>518163817No I don't agreeYou, however, DO agree that the broker is not the seller so what are we arguing about
>>518135596The eternally questioning Jew.
when you click agree to tos it means you're using software, you don't own a damn thingthat is why buying isn't owning and virtual piracy isn't stealing
>>518163114Intellectual Property isn't Property, thus must be qualified as "intellectual". It's purely a creation of statue and doesn't exist in nature. It deserves as much respect as you chose to accord it.
>you wouldn't download a car
>>518164005There are countless games that don't require any online anything to play. You could download thousands of dollars worth of games that will install and function flawlessly offline. On some of them, you can even still access their live service undetected. Live service games happen because people keep paying for live service games. It doesn't really matter. Hackers and modders do all sorts of pirated version of live service games too, just look at all the hacks GTA Online got over the years.
>>518163859No idea; never looked into appealing the ban, which was for the Rockstar Social account that was connected to my Steam account; no online games allow, but I can still play the single-player shit. I didn't bother typing all that up because it was fair or acceptable. I'll give another good example of why I treat this system like a pirate would: I have money, no debt, but decided on principle to get rid of all bank accounts and debit cards. Needed electronics from amazon, only place I could find to get them easily... how do I do this? I get a dollar-store's amazon gift card loaded up, and start buying shit I can only get easily on amazon these days (DC-to-DC voltage converters, autmotive shit for my off-grid setup). Amazon, based on me buying odd electronics, automagically flags my account as fraud. I used a real Verizon cell number with my gift cards I paid for with cash. They lock my account with hundreds of dollars in gift cards loaded up, force me to upload the reciepts to the giftcard purchases, showing I paid cash at Dollar General; refused, my account remained locked. I spent hours with their support, they kick it up, make me upload the reciepts again, rejected. Finally I submit the issue on Better Business B. Finally an amazon rep reads where I correctly call out they they flagged my account based on purchase history alone, they reject my BBB ticket leaving my Amazon account locked, all because I made off electronic purchases on a gift card, and that looked odd. In rejecting their rejection or non-solution, I noted that I knew they had flagged my account with automated bullshit based on their inability to understand why someone would purchase so many DC-to-DC shit, explaining I was off-grid... apparently a human finally used their head and my amazon account was unlocked; after I said I would be bringing this to my state's AG.There is no free market, there is just corruption. Do as they will.
I would download a house
>>518164297In a lot of cases you need private servers and people would rather play with their friends or whatever.The market will always adapt so that only a minority of people pirate. If too many normies start pirating then the market will degrade and become even worse.My ultimatum is that piracy should be difficult and dangerous. Normies should not want to do it. Broke people in brazil and tech savvy autists should hold the means to pirate and only unleash easy access to piracy when a company really deserves taking down.
>>518135596it's slavnigger behaviour
>>518164378>I would download a houseI have been trying for years to find pirated house blueprints. These cost about $1500 for the paper ones, but when you want to get the digital version, they tack on another $2000 fee. I have never once come across any hint that anyone bothers to pirate these, though I would love to.Also interested in garment patterns, which are a little more available, but just barely. Let's start pirating everything.
>>518164429This poster and it's contents should be taken in the context of it's host country. So if you like the taste of boot where your teeth used to be, think like this worm.
>>518135596>Would you like to borrow this media person I know irlLegal>Would you like to borrow this media person on the Internet You can't just download a car says Mr shekelstienGo fuck yourself
>>518164429It's not difficult, we're just getting dumber as people. That's all you're celebrating, you know.
>>518135596not really, it’s just another interesting aspect of White culture with regards to where it came from, how it’s done, and how it engages the philosophical question of ownership.
>>518164005Then explain Silksong? 20 bucks, no DRM, no live service, just pure vidya.
>>518164603Have you considered kit houses?
>>518164378https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEH4pMnpgps
>>518163887It doesn't explicitly say it and it actually has fair use and non infringing exclusions>If I paid the company that owned the car, yes it would be okay.You mean the original brand ?Kek why would you pay them ? My work, my material, their idea. I though we're not paying for ideas.>It'd be no different from me fixing the car myselfIt would be very different.>At what point in this convo did I imply that I wished to utilize piracy for commercial and non-personal use?The discussion is about copyright law, don't go all kike on me.If copyright laws are BS then why wouldn't I copy a car down to the logo and sell it.>So the solution is to just give corporations sweeping power and protections from the government, turning everything into perpetual licenses and subscriptions?Absolutely not. The solution is more fair and better regulation so that would actually take some power from the corporations (from those with a lot of money to spend on lawyers better said)
>>518164603a library would probably have a book with blueprints on houses if you're really interested. We forget that the older books have things they don't want people to know about anymore
>>518164210I know you’re agreeing with me but splitting hair over something that is obvious is ridiculous for arguments Nothing we have exists in natureAlmost everything in humanity is unique to humans exclusively So yes intellectual property doesn’t exist in natureNeither does physical property as a concept beyond being the animal to hold something until something is taken away from them“Owning” physical property is human in thought So your concept of giving it respect holds the same weight >Ie; Someone worked to buy something and thus it’s theirs
>>518135596for me, stealing from jews gives me a warm feeling inside, i couldn't give two fucks about semantics.
>>518164677Depends. In some specific online spaces, the piracy forums are more popular than the official forums and people use the piracy forums as catalogues to find content instead of, say, a retailer.That's a problem, if everyone starts using the pirate sites.>>518164741Hollow Knight was funded through kickstarter, the exact opposite of piracy. The game sold absurdly well compared to its costs and so they can then make absolutely anything they like. They could've sold it for $1.I only play indie games nowadays. Can't remember the last time I played any AAA slop. Actually, piracy rates for steam games isn't all that bad as far as I understand it. Maybe 30%? 50%? Compared to some other markets where piracy is more like 90~95%. Steam just provides a good service that makes people want to add to their library. Steam is great.... then takes 30% of the revenue (not profits! REVENUE!), so also fuck you Gaben.
>>518164351Well I'm glad you solved that one in the end, do you think AG would do anything ?Do you have those consumer protection legal bodies and shit in America ?
>>518164351I forgot the most frustrating part: they keep insisting I provide a debit or credit card number to prove my purchases weren't fraud. Never solid anything I ever bought on amazon, all for personal use. Didn't matter.Anyways, look at the price of gold! Holy shit I bet the kikes are nervious right now. Better download me some more old films before they crash the internet to mute the revolution.
>>518135596>Pirate game>It has nigger in it>Delete gameJews won. I don't wan't to pirate anymore.
>>518135596my 2c: Sometimes it's easier to consume media from pirate sources, so for example when I watch a CAM release and I like the movie, I'll buy a movie ticket online and then simply not go.If you liked some piece of media then show some appreciation by supporting the creators, voting with your wallet.Especially if they're a small creator that took on a risk -- I feel almost no guilt pirating stuff from Disney and Hollywood studios in general, but I feel lots of guilt pirating some dude's indie movie that he worked hard for
>>518135596niggers can't even the internetwtf sauce are you on m8digital property rights can get fucked
>>518164429Based actually Piracy + parasitizing on normie NPCs is the ultimate /pol/ behavior
>>518165046No, the AG shit was hollow threats. I'm owed thousands from my dad's estate that I refuse to claim, thousands in unemployment I refused to file for. I hate the system too much to use it against itself. AG probably would agree with their TOS being able to call whatever their automated system determines as 'fraud', even if you worked for every dollar, pulled it all from a bank account to use in a store, for their gift card, they can just take it back based on "terms".Again, do as thy will until someone bothers clearing out some of the weeds as if anyone gave a shit about the country outside of their own wants.
>>518164794>It doesn't explicitly say it and it actually has fair use and non infringing exclusionsFunfact: making backups for personal use counts as infringing usage, and courts have actually argued this multiple times. every 3 years governments can vote on whether something can be granted exemption, as many libraries have sought for preservation purposes, and all were turned down. Some common court cases that helped set this precedent were as follows:>Universal City Studios, Inc. v. Reimerdes (2000)>321 Studios v. MGM Studios, Inc. (2004)>RealNetworks, Inc. v. DVD Copy Control Association (2009)The precedent for each case was that it was illegal to sell any kind of circumvention hardware that let you actually make the backups, and by extension, making the backups was thus illegal if it involved circumventing copy protection.>Kek why would you pay them ? My work, my material, their idea. I though we're not paying for ideas.Because I'm not the evil pirate strawman you cooked up in your head. I don't mind paying for my media, but I should be allowed to modify it and make backups for personal use. Post-purchase license agreements are jewish pilpul.>If copyright laws are BS then why wouldn't I copy a car down to the logo and sell it.Maybe because it started out as a decent idea, but spiraled out of control due to corporate meddling? If a game or movie or piece of music had 10 years of protection on it, and then had the restrictions lifted, I don't think people would hate it as much as this 200+ year garbage pushed by Disney.>The solution is more fair and better regulation so that would actually take some power from the corporations We're not going to get that, if we keep protecting current copyright law.
>>518135596not even a little. the fact that you can get higher quality content from pirating over the traditional legal ways is enough of a reason. pirated games have DRM and Anticheats removed, allowing the game to run without the bloat. You can easily find 4k rips of shows or movies that are actually 4k, where most streaming sites fail to provide the advertised resolution you are actually paying for. a nigger stealing shoes from a store to later sell for crack money is not the same.
>>518165347Anyone remember unbiplay or whatever the Far Cry 3 shit was called? I remember how relieved I was as a purchaser of that game when the hacked version finally came out.
>>518165460>>518165347Also, I wonder how many people were paying attention to how RDR 2, even in single-player mode, was recording analytics about your game-play choices. I've had enough of this Orwellean shit; if you guys like paying for it, by all means, enjoy!
>>518165288>Universal City Studios, Inc. v. Reimerdes (2000)That was also about circumventing encryption and big money big studiosWe're talking about uploading your CD to your computer.Can you provide a case where a person was found guilty for uploading their CD but NOT sharing online or distributing.>Because I'm not the evil pirate strawman you cooked up in your head. I don't mind paying for my media, but I should be allowed to modify it and make backups for personal use. Post-purchase license agreements are jewish pilpul.So you don't think that copyright law as a concept is a nonsense, just the way it's legislated ?
>>518165559AOL gaming outside of purely multiplayer games is one of the dumbest fucking trends to take hold of the industry.
>>518164894>a library would probably have a book with blueprints on houses if you're really interested. We forget that the older books have things they don't want people to know about anymoreIn the old Sears catalogs, there was an offer with the houses... you could mail in a SASE and they'd send you the blueprints for one of the houses for free. Said if you thought you could build it cheaper than their kit, go for it. I don't know if anyone ever took them up on it, if they did, those plans never made it onto archive.org. Even if they did, modern plans have the elevation drawings, bill of materials, electrical and plumbing, things you probably didn't get in those (many of the Sears houses had addon kits for the plumbing, because when they started selling them indoor bathrooms weren't necessarily a thing).
>>518135596IP is a Jewish concept for slaves.There was never any "secrets of the temple" in pagan religions, just scholarly priests and everyone else with other shit to worry about.
>>518135596I like sharing files! Sharing is caring!
>>518165681>We're talking about uploading your CD to your computer.None of these cases say that personal use is legal. And the DMCA does not give exemptions for it, since doing so still requires using illegal hardware that breaks copy protection.https://www.wired.com/2009/08/judge-copying-dvds-is-illegal/>"Because RealDVD makes a permanent copy of copyrighted DVD content, there is no exemption from DMCA liability, statutory or otherwise, that applies here. Whatever application the fair use doctrine may have for individual consumers making backup copies of their own DVDs, it does not portend to save Real from liability under the DMCA in this action," Patel wrote (.pdf) in a lawsuit brought by Hollywood.It is a messy situation where they don't outright say that users can't do it, but for all intents and purposes, to actually do so you need this hardware that lets you break copy protection, and it's illegal to sell and buy it, unless you can make a copy of a game without breaking copy protection.>So you don't think that copyright law as a concept is a nonsense, just the way it's legislated ?Let me put it this way: I want to play Chrono Trigger on the SNES. But Square Enix refuses to sell it to me. And you can't get a copy of the cartridge for any less than 400 dollars on amazon, due to scalpers, and you have no guarantee that they'll even be legit copies. So I'm left with no choice but to pirate. However, I believe they should be payed for their work, so regrettably I'll buy the shitty port they put on steam, or if I'm desperate, I'll buy the just-as-terrible ps1 version of the game, for the sake of ownership (it doesn't cost 400 dollars).Tell me, have I committed a wrong here? I have ensured the company has gotten their fair due (if I go with option 1 on steam) and I get the game that's actually functional and good. I respect their copyright by not sharing it or distributing it, but I shouldn't be stuck with a broken version that doesn't work.
>>518135596If purchase isn't ownership, then piracy isn't theft
>>518137854they gave it away.I didn't sign a contract when I bought THEATER admission. Does "Management" retain right to revoke my "license" AKA 86 me out of theater? Sure, I guess, maybe.Can a hooker un-fuck you after she fucks you? I don't think so.
>>518165681Copyright as a concept is nonsense. The statue of Anne was a tool to prevent the spread of politically dangerous ideas.
>>518166093So she said it's legal for the owner to upload their CD to their computer ?>None of these cases say that personal use is legal.Actually this one does and it doesn't work like that anyway, if there's no law against it, it's legal.>But Square Enix refuses to sell it to me.Why ?>I get the game that's actually functional and good. I respect their copyright by not sharing it or distributing it, but I shouldn't be stuck with a broken version that doesn't work.You're adding additional layers here.Is copyright bullshit itself ?Like if they have a game that's working properly and they want to sell it to you, do you think it's retarded because you can't own ideas ?From what you say I don't think you do.
>>518166751>So she said it's legal for the owner to upload their CD to their computer ?>Actually this one does and it doesn't work like that anyway, if there's no law against it, it's legal.And how do you propose that you make the backup? That's the crux in the argument.>Why ?They're morons, that's why. They can't even do a simple thing like properly porting an SNES game. >Is copyright bullshit itself ?In its current state, yes. Roll back about 100 years of copyright laws and addendums and additional garbage piled ontop, and then it'll be more reasonable.>Like if they have a game that's working properly and they want to sell it to you, do you think it's retarded because you can't own ideas ?You can have the exclusive right to sell that idea for a few years, but you shouldn't be allowed to dictate what people do with it after they buy it. If I want to tinker under the hood and revert a bunch of changes and make the game more like an older version of it, why is that wrong? Keep in mind that you're still getting paid.
>>518166749>Copyright as a concept is nonsense.So how many copyrightable ideas have you put out there for free ?If you had a patent that can make you millions would you just put it in the public domain ?The fuck you would.You want to be able to use ideas of others for free because you have no ideas of your ownIf you came up with an idea you'd become the staunchest defender of copyright imaginableKike
>>518135596no. Theft is, but trying to equate piracy and theft was always retarded jewish pilpul. Theft creates Actual Damages - i.e. (You) steal a snickers bar. The store you stole from has been damaged because it paid the snickers company for that candy bar, and then paid an employee to stock it on their shelf, and then paid for the space that shelf occupies and the power to light that space and the air conditioning to keep it from melting or freezing, etc.Digital piracy is not theft because it does not create Actual Damage. A legitimate purchase of the software is made, and then the software is redistributed freely. The damages alleged by piracy are not Actual Damage, but hypothetical damage which just ASSUMES that someone who received a free copy of pirated software would have bought a "legitimate" copy. To circle back to my snickers anaogy, piracy is like someone else buying a snickers bar, taking it home and putting it in their Slop Trek Food Machine and cloning it. Then they give (You) a free Snickers bar. Calling this theft is retarded and ridiculous.>But anon WOULD have totally bought a Snickers bar!Taking this logical experiment further, say that (You) buy a candy bar and then break it in two. You eat one half and you give the other half away to some random person on the street. Is this theft? Of course not. How about something more literal?Let's say (You) burn an ISO of your favorite video game, which was legitimately purchased, to an HDD and play it on an emulator. A friend also wants that video game, so you give them the disc you no longer require. Is this theft? Of course not, that's retarded, and some corporate faggot has no business telling you not to give that disc to your friend. Let's try that again. What if you sell the disc on EBay? Is THAT theft? You're now making a profit off of it after all .. but, no, no it is not. Why?Because there is no Actual Damage. HYPOTHETICAL Damage, though? Yes. But theft is Actual, not Hypothetical.
>>518135596post your rigs
>>518167083>Let's say (You) burn an ISO of your favorite video game, which was legitimately purchased, to an HDD and play it on an emulator. A friend also wants that video game, so you give them the disc you no longer requireAccording to them, it's theft even if you never sell it, and the copy is solely for personal use, and you maintain ownership of the disk. You've "violated their copyright" and are making "unauthorized derivative works" with their IP. Just the act of modifying the game to work on your PC is already wrong in their eyes, since they could possibly sell a PC version 20 years down the line.
>>518166963>>518166751The jewish owned corps are too scared to go back to court. Last time they did it, it said that consumers are allowed to have backups, allowed to record what is shown on their screens ect.
>>518135596intellectual property is bourgeoisie behaviourtheft also implies it has inherent valuewhich it really does notnote the lack of hard copies today
>>518165844Eh there were mystery cults.
>>518166963>And how do you propose that you make the backup?Every computer had a CD reader that you could use to upload anything into your computer and a lot of games actually required you to do so or gave you the option to but they never said "you have to play this from CD because otherwise it's illegal". MP3 converters were also never illegal afaik so this case seems to be about something quite different.>In its current state, yes.Dude what the fuck, I'm not asking you that and I don't disagree but the debate on copyright is whether it's retarded as a concept>You can have the exclusive right to sell that idea for a few years, OK>but you shouldn't be allowed to dictate what people do with it after they buy it. If I want to tinker under the hood and revert a bunch of changes and make the game more like an older version of it, why is that wrong? Keep in mind that you're still getting paid.I don't think it's really illegal as long as you're not planning on sharing it on the internet or selling it.I think you're going too far into something that nobody cares about and nobody gets sued for
>>518165844>There was never any "secrets of the temple" in pagan religionsofc course there werethat's why they were called 'mysteries'the primary mystery being the ritual initiationlike the initiation into the cult of Cubele by ritual castration
>>518167215Which is retarded and contradicts the actual definition of theft (de jure), and circles back to the first thing I said which is>trying to equate piracy and theft was always retarded jewish pilpulIt just goes to show how little boomers understand even basic concepts like theft that they just brainlessly nodded their heads and went along with it
>>518167326Excellent thenWtf are you uploading btw
>>518167385>Every computer had a CD reader that you could use to upload anything into your computer And how does this cover non-CD media? Can you fit an SNES cartridge into your CD reader? What about blu rays specifically protected by DRM? >Dude what the fuck, I'm not asking you that and I don't disagree but the debate on copyright is whether it's retarded as a conceptI believe that, as a concept, it started out okay. Government gets taxes from every sale I make, they protect my idea for a few years, then it goes public. Worked for millenia, until greedy merchants decided that only a handful of mega corporations should own everything.If copyright went back to its roots, then yes it would be reasonable. I believe in paying for media, a good product deserves money. A system that promotes artificial scarcity, scalping, and hoarding is anything but reasonable.
>>518166978I’d stop people from copying and using my idea in their own media but partaking in the media meaning consuming it>Watching, playing, readingIs all on the table for themI do not get any money from someone who was never going to pay nor who can afford to payFaaaagot
>>518135680I'm willing to pay double for no DRM, you accept DRM for free software, we are not the same
>>518144393I'm just not gonna pay for it is all, I'm sorry!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>518135911Then I purchased nothing.It's false advertising if it isn't advertised as a rental contract.
>>518167889No one is saying you have to. Just don't steal something that isn't yours. This is something your parents should have taught you when you were 5.
>>518167548>And how does this cover non-CD media? Can you fit an SNES cartridge into your CD reader? You could just like a tape but you'll break something and it can't read it. Use converter>What about blu rays specifically protected by DRM?That's retarded, yes. Idk if anybody ever got convicted for cracking it though because people openly discuss it on Reddit and other places.They should be legally prohibited from doing it or the cracking software should be legal (it probably is)The bottom line is that you don't get sued for making backups, that's it.I agree with the rest of your post pretty much.
>>518135596niggers weren't much into piracy, as crewmates maybe but very rarely any of them were made captain, so despite being the most oppressed race in the region nigger percentage among pirates was like 20% if not less and almost all of them were moping decks so to speak, very few people would agree to sail under a nigger flagso you see while niggers can be leechers and maybe even seeders sometimes, there's almost always a white man keeping the torrent alive
>>518167930Jew says not to steal holy shit
>>518167583>I’d stop people from copying and using my idea in their own media but partaking in the media meaning consuming itOh would you now ?But you said copyright is retarded and unnatural>Yeah but but but money for me not for theeGiga Jew you are
I’d say it’s definitely Slav behavior so basically the same thing yeah
>>518167930I WILL own whatever media I like and I will NOT pay for it if it's otherwise locked behind a subscription. I WILL buy CDs secondhand, I WILL stream movies on free websites with no ads, and I will ONLY play physical games that don't require an account or internet connection, and I WILL buy those games secondhand, and therefore deprive kikes of money. I'm sorry!!!! Someone else got my money, but not you!
>>518163494>mp3's are illegalLargely, yes, go buy one. >make the car by copying itManufacturing is completely legal. That "logo" is the thing that freaks people out. "White-label brands" are exactly this type of product, that is, a manufactured/generic good that anybody can slap their own label on. It's completely legal but if you tried it with cars there is a good chance you would get strung up in court or killed by cartels. KIT cars on the other hand are completely legal because people normally don't resale them. Especially not in bulk. >thats fucked upNo shit retard, fan-made game about Mario and peach playing beer pong? Ruins Nintendo's hard earned branding. >parasites just want free shitYea because a computer makes it painfully easy to copy information. It costs next to nothing. The fact people think they arbitrarily have value for making sandcastles out of bits and bytes is silly. The VALUE, is only that which other chuds copy and utilize. Your labor doesn't have value just because you think it does. That's what copy-write is, it's some chuddy snowflake demanding we respect his "super special work" and pretty please don't use it unless you pay your taxes to big daddy payment provider and then pay chuddy because he worked so hard to make a little turd and was dumb enough to put a lawyer in the payment cycle.
>>518167520mostly rom packs. but everything is hardlinked, so I seed everything 4 times over atleast, things that I care about, I seed forever.
>>518168396>Largely, yes, go buy one.They are not selling them because they are low quality audio but they sell MP3 players. It's not illegal by any meansThe rest of your post is also dumb shit.
>>518168161>You could just like a tape but you'll break something and it can't read it. Use converterIf that converter lets you break copy protection, then it's illegal to sell it or traffic it, and buying it could land you in similar legal hot water.>The bottom line is that you don't get sued for making backups, that's it.The precedent is still there. The law primarily targets distributors and people who facilitate it by running piracy websites, but any judge can still argue that making backups requires breaking copy protection, which requires illegal hardware. And all it takes is one court case, backed up by the RIAA, or Nintendo, or Sony, or Disney, and it's all over. Look how quickly Nintendo took down both Ryuijinx and Yuzu. The former even avoided all of the pitfalls of the latter, but because Nintendo was persistent, they got shut down. Look at denuvo for further proof. You can go to jail for cracking it. May I be forgiven for linking to k*taku.https://archive.is/FVaLS
>>518168537Based seeder the hero of Eastern Europe and South America.
>>518135596Never niggers were bottom lowest rank regardless on what kind of ship putting slave shipping aside . My Father is dutch and was a Marine Officer in the 90s and has countless oh photos making the Cabin Nigger scrub floors shine boots even the only woman weakest of them all was high above him
>>518168396No, not chuds. Kike. Fucking Jews. Even Thomas Jefferson didn't belive you could own ideas. Sorry but owning niggers makes more since then owning data or ideas. So I agree with you on all that. Niggers can be property, but Kike made Disney movies? Fuck no. Heil Hitler brother.>>518168685I actually was inspired by the Christian behavior of Rutracker users during the game of thrones years. "why do they do it? They get nothing out of it". Then I realized that it is my Christian duty to make sure people do not give Kikes, nigger loving marxist Jews who control all media a single cent.
>>518145352LOL Your entire country consisting of 3 different traits Full blown niggers 25% whites 25% AND the rest 50% IS the outcome of 100 years due nr.1 and nr.2 inerbreeding
>>518166978>So how many copyrightable ideas have you put out there for free ?All day every day, non stop, i wake up, make trademarks, i eat lunch, create patentable reality, I go to sleep and conjure bespoke content, poetry and literature.I create so much that the global tide of AI was built largely on making a pale facsimile of my works. They harvest my shreds of data and try to charge you for glimpses of my visage. They sue you for my work, they will NEVER pay me. I produce for free, they create nothing, copywriter is their tool where they mate my divine inspiration with your money. That so many are fooled into trying to scrape pennies out of this malicious system is a tragedy. >YOU ARE INCENTIVIZED TO CHARGE MONEY FOR YOUR WORK!If people were they would invoice the airport for appearing on camera.
>>518169132Who pays for that lunch though
>>518135596Reminder that the jeets who are involved with certain sites nowrun them to scam money (and ONLY for that!),when the people who created the bay were cool people and had entirely different motives.
>>518166978>patent that made millions would you put it in public domain.ABSOLUTELY, patents destroy inventors. First thing that happens as soon as a patent is filed is lawyers, feds, and suits descend upon you demanding you show up in court. They want to BUY your idea. And maybe your idea is worth a few million to you, but to them it's worth a few billion.That's not something you can comprehend. The patent system facilitates the alienation of you from your idea. By filing a patent you allow anyone who reads it to copy your idea, and anyone with more money to FUCK YOU, if you had some delusion of ownership or moral attachment to the idea. For this reason, it is only worth patenting poor ideas that are unlikely to be valued, why? So that you can sue someone dumb enough to try it.Any GOOD IDEA, is kept as a trade secret if made for profit, and immediately released to public if the inventor believes in it. Patenting a good idea is a self destructive foolish idea unless you are a practicing lawyer with a plan. For anyone who invents, the liability of the courts, the money and schemes of politicos is nothing but a crippling burden that should NEVER be associated with a good idea. If you look through history you will find countless "inventors" who get BTFO by their own pride, entitlement and greed by trying to make a quick buck with a patent system.
>>518169233Your mom, unironically. She values a good lunch. You could make a good business charging that bitch an extra 40% for what I make. You would be evil because you would be carving into consumer and producer surplus as a middleman though.
>>518168203what a embarrassment when today the entire history of niggers gets traced to being owned by every single nation haha .how can they even walk around and act as if nobody knows
>>518169543>For this reason, it is only worth patenting poor ideas that are unlikely to be valued, why? So that you can sue someone dumb enough to try it.Jew detected
>>518153078Oh my you deserve special credit in this thread under your flag trillions of nigger slaves doing slave labor 100s of years for ZERO pay or attention
>>518148631 lick my feet clean filthy damn NIGGER
