As you've likely experienced for yourself, there's a coordinated effort amongst many podcasts and YouTubers to bring DMT and magic mushrooms into the mainstream. Every time one of these shows is broadcast, the stories are very similar and the message is always positive:>psychedelics cure X, Y, and Z mental disorders >psychedelics cure addictions>psychedelics unlock God mode>psychedelics open a doorway to another universe>psychedelics rewire your brain in a very beneficial way>and on and on the propaganda goesThe government is crashing this plane with all of us aboard and psychedelics are the equivalent of a gas mask being deployed. These drugs are being recommended to assist in controlling the masses; can you imagine being high out of your fucking mind in shrooms when the jews finally activate project bluebeam to accelerate the alien invasion narrative? All capacity for self-control, rational thought, logic, or even basic survival skills is neutralized until you're sober again.
The trauma of a bad trip produces PTSD while the psilocybin/alkaloids have rewired your brain to make you a compliant little bitch cowering in fear of Hollywood sci-fi movies projected onto the clouds. Congrats, you fucked yourself.I have proof that psychedelics don't cure anything like they say on those podcasts. I sourced enough extremely potent magic mushrooms (jack frost and APE) to experiment with various meth/fentanyl junkies, alcoholics, and depressed/suicidal people that I've known. I provided them free magic mushrooms in any dose that they so desired.
Some are meant to gaze into the abyss and some are not. Its a talent like anything else, not for everyone.
>>518343406It's' about set and setting You sound like way to much of a tweaker to ever take Psychedelics
The results were, even amongst the experienced psychedelic users, complete helplessness and mental breakdown - these guys, grown men, couldn't drive, couldn't remember their way home, couldn't use their phones to call for help, and one man was so overwhelmed that he broke down down crying in a restaurant parking lot. All of these participants tripped an average of 4 to 5 times on dosages ranging from 3 to 7 grams. One of them suffered HPPD for a week; during which he lost his job, his apartment, his girlfriend, and he even moved to a different city because he was literally losing his mind. Guess what? All of these guys ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO EAT ANYMORE SHROOMS and are right back in their meth, fentanyl, and alcohol abuse. So, why are the shills saying that psychedelics are the cure?The podcasters want you to try shrooms. One dose must be enough to do something permanent to your brain. Otherwise, why do they want everyone to try them when VERY FEW people are capable of enjoying such an experience? >INB4 psychedelic shills post links to "scientific research"
>>518343406You don't do those like you drink a beer in a pub. Or you can, but might be a bad experience.They are also not for everyone. That whole Rogan "dood if all politicians would do shrooms the world would be better" is just retard talk
>>518343569>bro eat these 7 grams of mushrooms twice the maximum recommended dosage.>hmm, it appears they went crazy
My friend that gets addicted to every new thing sold at the gas station swears that mushrooms help her with her daily pain, just like she swears marijuana, kratom, and gabapentin does.
>>518343569There's nothing "enjoyable" about meeting yourself anon. It can be in small doses in nature looking at the trees, on a chill sunny day. Yeah whatever. But these are mostly for like key moments in your life when you're stuck and you need to sort yourself. Not for fucking fun. You risk getting hurt if you do shrooms like and idiot
>bro I bought a kid a pack of cigarettes>never smoked before, I told him to smoke all 20>he was throwing up bro>guess what? HE SAID HES NEVER SMOKING AGAIN
>>518343406Psychedelics make you wonder why you spend your only fleeting chance at life working and paying taxes, and if the toys people buy with their labor are worth it
>bro I bought this kid a handle of moonshine >and told this asshole "Drink up pussy">when he got out of the hospital I laughed in his face>because I'm an asshole>also I made this all up.
>>518343406>As you've likely experienced for yourself, there's a coordinated effort amongst many podcasts and YouTubers to bring DMT and magic mushrooms into the mainstream.2010s called
Also, I have a gay nephew who I've been micro dosing with lemon Tek tea. He's still a neurotic faggot. No cure. In an earlier experiment, I bought a hobo in town a Wendy's combo with powdered jack frost (4 grams) mixed in with chilli. I watched him eat everything and wander off to shoot some fentanyl. He's still homeless; still a degenerate junkie. I now question the motivation of so many podcasters to repeat the same script about psychedelics being a magic bullet/miracle cure for everything that's wrong with a person. It's obvious that they're lying. The question is why. And what exactly is the ROI for this widespread marketing campaign featuring psychedelic propaganda?
>>518343406I don't think the masses should be doing these drugs, most people are stupid and can't handle it, most aren't in the right mindset. I'm not against these drugs though, they serve a purpose for some people.
>>518343837Well you can see how that's not lucrative for the people running this bitch.They are for the few shamans in the population. Which is hard to sort out.>well if that guy's doing it why can't I?Shamans are thrown into the gutter for the sake of uniformity and conformity.
Alex Jones warned about this years ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVqOC-G_Qqw
>>518343723They chose their own dosage according to their experience levels and desired trip. They knew the risks and were warned in advance that these aren't your average mushrooms. Most of them had trip sitters; the guys that suffered the worst side effects were eating them prior to work. Again, against warning and common sense. I didn't treat anyone like an asshole; except maybe the the hobo fent-junkie but he had free drugs plus a free meal so it's all good.
>>518343569I used to do that much all the time. I indeed wouldn't be able to drive a car on it but I wasn't a pussy about it
>>518343554>Gaze into the abyss.You fucking untermensch donkey, Nietzsche didn't mean drugs by the "abyss", he meant to confront nihilism.You druggies are the archetype of the Last Man.>inb4 j-ewt. Christian Palestinian
>>518344054That's why I doubt there is a conspiracy. They break us out of the box not the other way around
>EVERYTHING IS JEWS!boring
>>518343533>I provided them free magic mushrooms in any dose that they so desiredas you found out, that's not a helpful thing to do.you dont sound like a very good shaman
>>518344054Shaman = euphemism for hardcore drug abuserLmao,the village elders have a toad-licking, mushroom eating, ayuhuasca drinking, DMT smoking ALL YOU CAN EAT DRUG BUFFET to discover who the shaman is ... literally, it's the only guy in the village who doesn't lose his mind to psychosis in the moment.The only difference between a shaman and your most hardened drug addict is that the shaman practices witchcraft professionally.
>>518343406They thought that psychedelic therapy was going to be the next BIG THING
>>518344274The problem is the state of things are not as they seem. Once you "break of the box" you're on your own in a world that is not built to support your newfound perception. There's another meta on top of that, and most people can't
>>518343406That ain't even the same mushrooms nigga.
>>518343533>I sourced enough extremely potent magic mushrooms (jack frost and APE)cubensis are not ‘extremely potent’
>>518344346That's a dumb take anon. A shaman is not about hedonism or witchcraft as the Hollywood movies told you. It's about a different perspective on reality, a different way of seeing and interpreting it.That perspective was useful for tribe leaders. Selection made it so, it was not accident. It happened because it was useful.Drug abusers are normies seeking an out. Stop bundling everyone together you commie fuck
>>518343533>Bad tripJust take Kratom, it directly counters a bad trip by neutralizing it. Though you don't get the shrooms experience as they antagonize each other
>>518343569why would you give a macrodose to a mentally unstable person, retard?
>>518343912Sick faggot doses people without foresight or knowledge >nothing good happensWhoa.jpg
>>518344521Yeah its not easy, I was pretty confused about life for a year I suppose. Weed is the opposite, it might give creative thoughts but it does make people love living in their box
>>518344146Your story is not remotely believable.
>>518344256Neitzche was an incel. Ignore everything he says. Except the stuff about throwing babies off cliffs, religion being starving schizo waffle and women needing whipping.
>>518343912The person needs to have a will to not be a junkie first. If you take shrooms for the sake of shooting up fentanyl after, it will just make you go do that and try to find bonus 'enlightenment' within fentanyl.
>>518344590Ita amanita muscaria in OP's picture. Small doses are quite relaxing, muscimol is gabanergic. Big doses will have you in a delirium with muscle twitching. Muscaria is also hugely variable in potency which is funny to me
>>518343406Why did I see the merchant in this thumbnail.
>>518344815I don't care what you believe. I've conducted experiments and found the psychedelics propaganda online to be blatantly false. Truth remains even if you doubt it. Should I care?
>>518344590those are amanita shrooms, more of a deliriant like datura.
>>518344649I'm on kratom right now some 7oh too thanks to Joe Rogan's saying it's so amazing Wouldn't advise taking kratom to anyone it has become addicting harder to quit than cigarettes have been
>>518344885Next round of hobo experiments will be done with research chemicals; 5-meo-DMT, or maybe just straight liquid drop of LSD. I frequently visit hobo camps with large canisters of bear mace; disperse immediately and cease your degeneracy! I think I'm going to mod a cannister with liquid LSD and create a hobo Armageddon. This is for their own good. And for science.
>>518345173>>518343406Amanita gummies are legal, they are not the same as Psylocybin though.
>>518345225what a waste of drugs.
>>518345225You'll hit yourself if it's LSD. Just give tabs away, don't tell them its 100x stronger than they expected
>>518343406jokes on you i already have ptsd and am greatly looking forward to the “alien invasion”, HAARP light show or otherwise
>>518344975>I've conducted experimentsThe obviously fake stories you tell ITT?
>>518343533>I provided them free magic mushrooms in any dose that they so desired.Yeah, nice work asshole. Here just take however much and maybe something might work out, I guess.
>>518345629Literally, the advice of YouTubers, podcasters, and Joe Rogan guests. >just try magic mushrooms bro>cured my depression and addictions bro>look at me on God mode Put their bullshit and lies to the test. And I'm the asshole?
>>518345498Fake because there's no way in hell someone would ever give away free drugs? Or fake because you're upset that your miracle cure propaganda got exposed for the bullshit it is?
>>518343406They're part of sodomy. The amanita muscaria irritates the vegus nerve which is the nerve that is stimulated during sodomy. Mushrooms are the flesh of the gods and they're under the domain of Saturn i.e. Dionysus. It's like eating from the tree of knowledge and good and evil.
I think I may be broken. Normies on social media and joe rogan types online constantly talk about how psychedelics "cured their depression" or "made them feel at peace in the universe / world". When I take them it just shoots my existential dread into overdrive and makes me feel far more unstable in reality than I did before. It does the exact opposite of what they proclaim. Am I retarded or broken?
>>518343533You're the guy who floods every shroom thread and posts walls of text, aren't you? You got so mindbroken by shrooms that you're now inventing larps about giving drugs to the homeless. I can't tell if you're some shill paid by SSRI manufacturers or genuinely obsessed Your insane FDA already has it classified as a schedule 1 drug (same illegal class as heroin and fent). I'm assuming you're just seething over the fact that you'll never be able to crackdown on something that grows in the woods and most people can find by taking a 10 minute nature walk
>>518347033>can't tell if you're some shill paid by SSRI manufacturers or genuinely obsessedLow IQ on display. I never mentioned SSRI drugs or any other pharmacy garbage. And what you dismiss as obsession is really just getting the warning out to whomever needs to hear it. You're upset that the psychedelic propaganda isn't getting through to more people, that all. Now, post your silly "research papers" and infographics so that you can tell your supervisor that you did your job. >you're just seething over the fact that you'll never be able to crackdown on something that grows in the woodsWow, retard level reading comprehension on display. This thread is the opposite of a crackdown! I gave away literally ounces of premium, tier 1 genetics for the sake of proving whether or not the propagandists are correct. Hardly anti-drug at that stage.lmao...you poor infatuated dog
>>518344346Shamanism isn't witchcraft you lying piece of miserable shit. Siberian Shamanism predates Abrahamic religions by thousands of years. It's a monotheist religion. God is the same as Christians worship.Also, you don't know shit about mushrooms. Pic related is an edible mushroom, except with alcohol, the coprine it contains causes a disulfiram-type reaction making it effective in the treatment of alcoholism.Different mushrooms contain different medicinal properties and when properly used, they can indeed cure alcoholism, and the ones containing psilocybin (orally active DMT) have been used by thousands of years. They rarely grow in such numbers in nature that you could abuse them in any way, unless you grow them via the McKenna method.We are also aware of plants which have medicinal properties. The fucking opioid problem is caused by a drug produced by opium puppy. There exist a plant that heals that addiction. You don't even know what it is, even though you clearly work for big pharma.
>>518343406>t. Has never eaten psilocybe mushroomsJust be quiet about things you don't understand.
>>518346594The podcasters and guests are lying pieces of shit who are following a script. New YouTube channels pop up often and it's the same story:>first time tripping on psychedelics >beautiful experience >it cured me of everything >now I talk like this...>hippy new age faggot jargon.exe>third eye open>turdcutter ready for action Fuck those guys. They are being paid to persuade people to try dangerous substances that have the potential to destroy a life.
>>518346285This nigger knows what he is talking about. The psychedelic ream is the realm of the gods of ancient time who were cast down from Heaven. Playing with psychedelic is playing with fire. You get a glimpse behind the veil separating our world from the world of angels and demons. Treat wisely and understand that psychedelics are not necessary to lead a spiritually fulfilled life.
>>518346594You're fine. Just don't fall for the marketing bullshit about psychedelics. They are not the panacea that they are advertised to be.
mushroomheads are the worst fag druggies of all honestly.people unironically using the word shaman and they think thats a normal thing to say. the levels of absurd haha.
>>518347648There's no need to be upset. This thread is full of HARD TRUTHS that trigger folks like you because it pulls down the veil on your drug usage. You use psychedelics because you bought into the hippie new age propaganda; now, your entire personality centers around a drug - like that kid in highschool who was a stoner. And you think there's clear evidence that I work for pharma? Lmao. Is that part of your scripted replies? I hear it a lot on here and in the YouTube comments; "you're a pharma shill." How so? Mushrooms cure alcoholism? I keep hearing that. But there's this problem, you see? I know several alcoholics and I gave them shrooms until they were sick of eating them; they tripped once a week for two months straight AND THEY'RE STILL ALCOHOLICS. So, what you're saying doesn't pass the test of real world experience.It's just propaganda. Sorry if you believe that shit but you were sold a bundle of lies and fairytales designed to make YOU FEEL GOOD about using a certain drug. You're impressionable. You should've done what I've done and experimented on others before trying that drug yourself. Because it has made you gay, apparently. And there's no cure for that.
>>518349053i already said this in your thread yesterday but there was a lot of research done on shrooms in the last 10 years that NO shroom users know about or talk about.they found exactly what you would think: no effect on any of the claims.some doctors tried to develop hybrid therapy of mushrooms + therapists and even this did not yield relevant results.the time of "trust me bro" for mushrooms ended in like 2020
The Fungis were there before you faggots were engineered.
>>518349053Every post from you ITT is a blatant lie.I wonder why nobody has even asked you where did this "scientific" experiment of yours take place, when, did you have permission, and where are the reports of the results.You see, that is how I know you're full of shit. I'm University educated and every time we do science we report and journal our findings. You have done no such thing, all we have from you are 4chan posts (larp guaranteed) which cannot be verified in any way.Put up or shut up.I already posted a picture of mushrooms containing coprine, which can be used to cure alcoholism. Not necessarily the underlying reason, but it effectively prevents you from drinking. You clearly work for big pharma since you completely ignored coprine-containing mushrooms as a free alternative to Antabuse. You're busted. Now, KYS.
>>518343406> a doorway to another universeAckshually just the "other side" of this universe. These are they types of redditors not versed in Metaphysics who unironically subscribe to inane tripe like "simulation theory", lol
>>518345300For any retard thinking of buying these, don't. Even the fucking psychonautwiki says not to touch these "gummies" containing huge amounts of neurotoxic material
THE ANCIENT PLANT THATS WITH US SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME IS LE EVIL
>>518349713>you clearly work for big pharmaThis must be a scripted response. Or some mushroom cult defense mechanism. Someone disagrees that magic mushrooms are the miracle drug that you believe them to be and then, suddenly, that person is on the payroll of some pharmaceutical corporation? Lmao, that's pure retardation right there. Big Pharma has big money and it would be quicker and more efficient to just produce commercials than to come here to engage in one on one debates with drug zealots and enthusiasts. >details of "scientific" experiment What i did was illegal so there's no reason to list times, dates, locations, or anything that could be used in an investigation. Also, I don't ask for permission to do anything; especially, from criminals posing as judges, sheriffs, and other pedophile scum. I'll do whatever I please whenever it pleases me to do it. >I'm University educatedEuphemism for indoctrinated. Basically, the equivalent of saying that you're a homosexual.>Put up or shut upDue to the illegal nature of my experiments, there will be no reports published. All you need to know is that magic mushrooms were provided free of charge and in COPIOUS AMOUNTS to thirty different individuals who all suffer from addiction to various substances. After they had tripped to their heart's content, literally couldn't bear the idea of eating even one more shrooms, THEY ALL ARE STILL ADDICTED. They went right back to meth, fentanyl, pills, alcohol, etc. The ones with depression still have have it after all those shrooms. So, while there's no report for you to study, let it be known that my findings indicate that magic mushrooms DO NOT CURE ANYTHING.The only mushrooms I'm discussing ITT are psilocybin/alkaloid cubensis.
>>518343793She sounds like a genuinely fun person to be around, imo
>>518343912>>518343533You fucking retard you can't just dump mushrooms on degenerate methheads and expect them to change. The change comes from someone who seeks the change themselves. The mushrooms allow you to overcome things you wouldn't otherwise be able to. You still have to do it, though. This is like beating the shit out of someone with a bible and wondering why they don't convert.
>>518345868The real God mode is Adderall
I experimented with a few psychedelic substances, that is LSD, 5-MeO-DMT, 2C-P, 4-HO-MET, AL-LAD, 1P-LSD, ALD-52 and, of course, cubensis shrooms. Like all other psychoactive substances, these can be used in doses small enough that they're simply fun. Nothing much else. There's a certain dose threshold, where you lose that "knot" tying you to reality as you know it - and this is where these substances shine. I did, all of those combined, less than 20 times and became... Satisfied. I have both experienced ego death and total synesthesia, where all my senses combined into one. Those are indescribable experiences. They helped me greatly with my past childhood trauma (alcoholic father) and changed my personality - for the better. I became more outgoing, more capable instead of being a typical shut-in. I became able to "see" music in everything, every shape and color has its own melody. I learned on my own how to make electronic music (mainly trance and various kinds of house). Even learning seemed to come much faster and easier for me as I became free of stress that was ALWAYS there in the back of my mind. I stopped drinking basically the same day I tried 4-HO-MET. What is important, insanely so, is Set&Setting. You need to do these substances in a place you feel safe. Where there's no risk someone will barge in on you.I'm not surprised a fentanyl junkie (which in reality takes a mixture of fentanyl [powerful opioid] and xylazine [horse anaesthetic] didn't feel the psychedelic effects, or they were greatly diminished, due to the anaesthetic nature of such a combination - he basically nodded through the trip. Psychedelics, are like people said before, are not a cure-all - but if not for huge pharma companies raking in huge profits on opioids, "antidepressants", benzodiazepines+Z-Drugs and various stimulants, ostensibly for ADHD in kids, namely amphetamine, methamphetamine and methylphenidate, we'd already have a psychedelic drug working selectively.
>>518343533kek. Bad trips only happen if you're a retard who doesn't know what he's doing. These substances act on your existing mental conditions. If you're a room temperature IQ retard, then you will continue to be one.
>>518344975I appreciate your guerilla science Anon
Rather, a Pragmatic 'Godmode' will feel like one under Adderall. You will feel like you can create anything and everything and have infinite time to do it all. I would also argue LSD does this too.For a more affiliative Godmode, shrooms. You feel as if you are one with everyone, every person, every being. We are all one. I have had experiences where I am simply telepathically communicating with someone, and then the next thing I know they acknowledge this, and sometimes communicate or text back. My friend for example feels massive empathy towards me whenever I think about her, at odd times. It frustrates her since we no longer talk or at times were broken up. This is the power serotonin has. You literally 'vibe' into a signal and merge together. Sending a dream into the universe. You break down the emotional barrier that other people have. You Ego hack into them. Can't really explain it until you've experienced something spookingly similar.
>>518350493>admits the larp/threadI'm not asking you to dox yourself, just provide time and place so we can verify if this event ever took place. You're clearly not University educated based on your assumptions, suggesting you never did any kind of anonymous reporting or journals, nor was this larp experiment taking place in a controlled environment. Nothing in this larp of yours suggests real science. You don't seem to know the basics. Here is what a real scientific journal looks likehttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10660711/Since you cannot provide any evidence but your>trust me browhile psychedelic proponents have provided dozens and dozens of real scientific journals, why should I believe an irresponsible criminal? You do realize if you actually did this and get caught, you'll be in prison for a long time? And knowing how this site works, if feds think your larp is real, they will kick your door in.Jew pharma cannot produce commercials which are blatant lies, however hiring a jeet to do that on 4chan sounds exactly like something Jew pharma would do. Based on your previous posts you're a fucking pussy who would never break the law, so I'm gonna lean towards the larp in this case.
>>518351558You're not going to be able to verify anything posted here because I don't record myself in the commission of felonies. >You're clearly not University educated Lmao, you really think that's a big deal that you went to a university to keep trying to "lord it over" someone. Is this your appeal to authority? I honestly don't care about your "science" after the covid scandal pretty much showed everyone that the scientific community is little more than tap-dancing sellouts. You're here with something to prove? Posting links to "scientific research" and journals. I don't care. I didn't do my experiment to argue with actual educated scientists; I did it to prove whether or not the podcasters and YouTubers are lying. And guess what? They are lying big time.>why should I believe an irresponsible criminalBelieve it or not. I truly don't care. This thread is to serve as a warning to any anon who might be considering using these drugs because of advice from YouTube, Joe Rogan, or "educated" folks like yourself promoting them online.>Jeet working for Jew pharmaThis is your brain on university? I'm not impressed. Would you care to post a report on how you came to this erroneous conclusion?>Based on your previous posts you're a fucking pussy And now ad Hominem mental and emotional breakdown. Because why? Because psychedelics are a miracle drug bro, just try them. Please, won't you try them? Lmao.
>>518352303>ad HominemYou're the one who started with that.I'm just calling out your reefer madness propaganda.>nooooo don't do drugs>it causes you to jump off a buiilding>one toke makes you permanently insane>don't trust the podcasters trust the governmentAnd then you proceed to bash scientists because they work for the government kek. What a massive fucking retard omg.Post hand jeet.
>>518352662Post tits.
>>518353015https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayahuasca>archaeological evidence of the use of psychoactive plants in northeastern Amazon dates back to 1500–2000 BCE>b-but podcastersPost hand. If it turns out to be brown, it's time to put the shotgun in your mouth.
>>518343406YouTube recently randomly recommended to me a video of some banjo playing guy hiking in the English moors in I think the peak district, and he was describing how and where to find shrooms and what to do with them Very odd, and nothing to do with my usual recommendations
>>518344146Wow, almost like junkies aren't the best decision makers, especially at what dosage to take
>>518350623>itll literally rewire your brain>but only if you want it hard enoughlol>>518349713Post your reddit account
>>518353902Fuck off back to Ylilauta. This is a psychonaut board.
>>518346281Stay mad I don't believe your fake stories.
>>518343406luckily psilocybin mushrooms grow naturally here so no amount of your retarded faggotry can stop me :)i WILL dissolve my ego on a yearly basisi WILL remind myself that god is reali WILL remind myself that i have the capacity for good and evil, and i must choose to be goodand i WILL be kind to myself, for we all for short of the ideal
>>518353895>mushroom junkieskek. Maybe don't speak on things you have no knowledge about bub.
>>518354017You're not blending in. You have the rhetoric of a fag and your arguments are based on implicit homosexuality. Everyone knows you're a redditor.
>>518343406The why are they illegal? The establishment doesn't like them, but the evidence is so overwhelming that it's inevitable some influencers end up talking about them.
>>518343406>the word mushroom is of uncertain origin>the word fungus is of uncertain origin>the word funeral is of uncertain origin>the word sponge is of uncertain origin
>>518354201>wööö>wäää
>>518354268>evidence is so overwhelmingHow many people do you know who have clearly benefitted from using psychedelics? Probably zero. Forget what fraudulent and politically co-opted science says and trust your eyes instead.
>>518354518You're the one who isn't blending in vatnigger. Psychedelics have been used by Shamans for thousands of years. This is common knowledge here. Time to go back to Ylilauta and suck Sopsys cock some more.
>>518343406no god power, sometines god like motivation but tht depends of what you do in livelsd is VERY effective vs addictionsyou could argue psyhodelics are rel medicine for mental disordersyou can NOT deny that they are beter than ssri's
>>518347364project bluebeam isn't real.where on this mushroom did the machine elves touch you, anon?
>>518343406Seasoned space cadet here. The accumulative experience of all my trips and experiences can be summed up as the following. OP is a faggot.
>>518354518You could say the same about a plethora of things.
>>518354641Are you a shaman? Or training to become one? If not, then why is the shamanic ritualistic tradition of using psychedelics relevant to YOUR usage of these substances?
>>518343406You retard, psychedelics are illegal specifically because they make you see past government control bullshit and let you realize there are ways to live happy that don't involve line going up forever and always.
>>518354932And you would most likely be right.
>>518343406clockwork gnomes hate niggers, therefore tripping balls is white coded, but on the extreme end, none of that "micro" dosing baby shit unless it's your first time because the extreme end is seriously not for everyone.
>>518355031>they make you see past government control bullshitI just think maybe you're childlike naivety makes you susceptible to the good ole reverse psychology tricks.
>>518354914Based and agreed.
>>518343569>The results were, even amongst the experienced psychedelic users, complete helplessness and mental breakdown - these guys, grown men, couldn't drive, couldn't remember their way home, couldn't use their phones to call for help, and one man was so overwhelmed that he broke down down crying in a restaurant parking lot.>right back in their meth, fentanyl, and alcohol abuseI think I see the problem. But the thing is, psychedelics work within a psychological framework and a recovery program. You can't give a random alcoholic LSD and let him sort things out. It's usually like this right now.>Personality assessment, with cluster A schizos and cluster B psychos thrown out>Psychotherapy seances before the session>Session in a suitable environment with professional people>Post Session seances with a plan about how to integrate insights into daily life.>Daily application of insights into sober lifeGuessing by their choice of drugs, I guess they were stressed and highly anxious people before trying them. It's not recommended to give psychedelic to anxious and tense people since the might make matters worse - enhance anxiety to psychotic dimensions.>>518343912>Also, I have a gay nephew who I've been micro dosing with lemon Tek tea. He's still a neurotic faggot. No cure. Microdosing is a meme, if you take psychedelic tolerance into account. It might give something on the first day, but afterwards you're just throwing chemicals at a tolerance wall. With regards to mushrooms to hobos, I wish I had the guts to spike alcohol with psychedelics and leave the bottles in every park where the drunken half gopniks hang out, which is everywhere with trees, not for the sake of healing, just for the lulz because I'm fucking tired of always walking on edge due to the alcoholic bydlo fucking everywhere.>>518344346A shaman is prehistoric and aboriginal niche for what we, in the civilized world, call troons. Mentally ill gender confused faggots.
>>518355251>The government tells you not to take the drug that let's you realize there government control on society is bullshit>This is reverse psychology>They secretly want you to live within your means, cultivate a healthy friends group and form a family >The government wants you to remove all of your vices and phobias in a single session instead of hopping on SSRIs to be the next shooter the FBI was aware of>The government wants you to realize that God is real and reality is more than the materialistic framework of GDP and shekels Nah, fuck off rabbi.
>>518343406Fuck you psychedelics are great. LSD helped me ski better and quit alcohol
>>518355543>The government wants you to remove all of your vices and phobias in a single session insteadCan you name one real life example where you've seen this happen? People always talk about this yet no one ever comes forward to say it happened to them or someone they know.
Here's a link for all the newfags who cannot into blending in:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/23613664/#q23613664This has always been a psychonaut board. Nobody here agrees with OP or that faggot who was banned from Ylilauta and is now here as a tourist.Faggot OP already confessed larping -> remember to herb all fields.
>be me 5 years ago>In a toxic loveless relationship>Girlfriend is putting her neurosis onto me>Drinking excessively>Finally break up with her>Damage is already done>Date around>Drinking excessively>Spiraling chasing after whores >Get a call from the ex's sister>She killed herself months back and I missed the call the day before>Blame myself>Spiral even harder>Go on a trip with some friends>One of them offers shrooms just for fun>Take some because I'm a degenerate>Suddenly feel God literally wash over me>Proceed to sort out my life over the next 4 hours>No longer afraid of spiders >Decide to be serious about life>Start dating seriously>Married my next girlfriend>Happiest I've ever been>She's taken shrooms before too so we're on the same page>People think the world is burning and I'm just here creating my own personal heaventldr psychedelics are an escape hatch from clown world. But OP is a fed.
>>518343406if was on shrooms i'd probably become even more hyper-aware to attempt at manipulation.
>>518344622>having a bad trip?>just consume opioids bro
>>518355031This is very true but only for some, that effect is not as universal as you'd think. I used to have the belief that weed stopped propoganda working because all my friends who took it in the 90s became truthers. But when they legalised in in weimerica, normals just consoomed double the amount of goyslop. >>518355241I have seen this with LSD. Negros get schizophrenia after a hard trip and on shrooms they have a literal nightmare like taking a delluriant. Regardless, nothing on media is organic, and i have noticed jewtube pushing tryptomide related content in a positive. Ive also noticed a return of mgtow content of sorts, plus about 6 gorillian times the number of niggers.
>>518355413>cluster B psychos thrown outExclude all women? Seems a bit harsh that.
>>518343406ehhhif you've taken psychedelics it teaches you your perceptions are lying to you.I know my face wasn't melting, it was fascinating though.normies don't need itpsychos need xsociopaths need acidnarcissists need mushroomsat least once in their life
>>518343406I had my BPD ex try psychedelics. She went absolutely mental and had to spend a couple of weeks in a asylum. I took the opportunity to dump her and escape to another city kek
>>518343533>>518343569I like how this poster pretends he's doing something intelligent when he's actually fucking stupid but it wraps around as based anyways because he's giving junkies nightmare trips. Mushrooms can be fun but you generally don't want alcohol or other slop in your body or you'll awaken to what a disgusting retard you're being and it will detract from the experience.
Psychedelics are fake spirituality for midwits. Real spirituality is developed through effort and struggle. By achieving difficult things that force you to change as a person.>Mastering a skill with persistent years-long dedication, >achieving something others thought impossible >reproducing and raising a family,>creating a work of art, like a painting, a statue, or any form of very intricately ornate craftsmanship.All of these are far more spiritually formative experiences than just doing drugs and milling around your apartment drooling on the floor or talking like a retard.Psychedelics are a conveniently packaged experience for the average lazy consumer goy that doesn't want to work for anything. That's why they're so popular in today's society, while they have been dismissed as nonsense in any other age that wasn't as spiritually dead.They keep insisting that psychedelics have no side effects, but they're wrong: They cause arrogance and delusions of enlightenment.Both of which, ironically, close your mind to differing opinions and actually limit your ability to learn and develop spiritually.
>>518345214I feel your pain man. I was sober for a long time and then started taking this shit and it is as bad as doing dope almost
>>518343406They’re probably trying to open spiritual portals for easier demonic possession. I’m pretty sure they’re doing this for when they use CERN to open the bottomless pit to let demons out of hell.
>>518356127smooth
>>518356619Normie fags who have no experience in the matter need to stop speaking with authority like they know what they are talking about.
>>518355678Get lost winter cancer
>>518343406Planes do not deploy gas masks, stupid.
>>518356619Well said.
>>518356815Yes, I wish normies would stop talking about all the fake spiritual experiences they've had while drugging themselves. It really makes them look stupid.
>>518356127>my BPD exThere is no such thing as BPD. Psychiatry is a garbage pseudoscience, and BPD is just an excuse to enable a woman's shitty behavior instead of taking responsibility for her actions.The only reason "BPD" exists is because of men being pathetic pussy faggots that will tolerate bad behavior from their women."BPD" doesn't exist in patriarchal societies because the moment a bitch disrespects her man or her father she knows she'll be slapped in the face, or some other negative consequence, until she gets smart.If you are a man with firm boundaries and red lines not to be crossed, if your woman knows that the moment she disrespects you your relationship is immediately over and there will be severe consequences, "BPD" magically ceases to exist.Complaining about BPD women says a lot more about you than it does about her. It means you are so desperate that you'd tolerate a woman's shitty behavior just to keep her around instead of cutting her off.That's all there is to it. That's the truth about "BPD". Anything else are just excuses.
>>518357092tl;dr Ahmed
>>518356943It never occured to you that maybe religion was born from the psychedelic experience? It's like that old story of a man who spent decades meditating and learning how to levitate. Then finally he walks to a shaman and says I can walk on water, to which the shaman replies, yeah but the ferry is only a nickel.
>>518357236you're a pussy
>>518356943Fucking retarded boomer using "drugs" as a buzzword to incite fear and pathos instead of using logic.
>>518357296Lmao, this guy right here seems like the type who moans when wiping his ass.Insufferable faggot.Why do you keep talking about shamanism? You're weird as fuck. Lmao.
>>518357357How rude.
>>518343406>These drugs are being recommended to assist in controlling the masses; can you imagine being high out of your fucking mind in shrooms when the jews finally activate project bluebeam to accelerate the alien invasion narrative?You obviously have no understanding of shrooms or a shroom high.They do the opposite of what you think they do.
>>518353387Based spurdo>>518353902Well yeah. If you take them and spend the entire time watching italian brainrot your brain will actually rot (allegorically)>>518354518MDMA and LSD un-NPC'd me. Like said in >>518355656 all of them is an exaggeration, but my last LSD trip showed me how irresponsible and egoistic I act in subtle ways. Actively applying this knowledge improved my life measurably.If you have a good set and setting as well a proper intention psychedelics WILL help you.
>>518357416What I really love about psychedelics proponents is that they themselves exemplify and unwittingly admit how harmful these substances really are.Whenever I've respectfully put into question whether these substances are a legitimate path to spirituality, I have never gotten a calm, respectful answer, just like you failed to do.It's always hysterical name-calling, accusations, never respectful disagreement and arguments explaining their position. Your post perfectly exemplifies this.Is this really the behavior you would expect of such a spiritually developed, oh-so-enlightened person? No, it's the behavior of a clueless child throwing a tantrum.There's also the fact that psychedelics proponents also claim that the benefit they provide is that it "undoes neural connections" and somehow this solves "rigid thinking", which... somehow allows new connections to build?They fail to understand that what they are describing is literally brain damage. When you learn something, a skill or a piece of information, you are creating new neural connections. My definition of spiritual development is the development of skills that mold you as a person and develop your perception, which is physically represented by neural connections in the brain.The fact that psychedelics undo all of this means you are not only not progressing spiritually, you're actually regressing.If you disagree, and are capable of respectfully explaining why, I am willing to listen, but I don't really have high hopes for this conversation.
>>518343406Druggies want free drug to get high without the fear of The state prosecuting them.So they will always try to do this.Theynxame with the same thing about marihuana. Medical , then recreational , and so on.Druggies want to drug and get high.
>>518354724For some, sure. But they HAVE to know what they're getting into and preferably have a trip sitter for the first time, as some people initially panic when they begin to perceive things that are normally filtered away by our brain. And I'm not talking "seeing things" like you do on deliriants (in my opinion, the only class of drugs for insane fucks - why would you take something which always turns into a horror film, but you're the MC).I've seen some people here ascribing Amanita muscaria to deliriants, but it's actually an entheogen, which is why it was used by shamans throughout history east of Ural mountains. This mushroom contains both compounds that work on GABA receptors (like depressants) and ones that work on Muscarinic and Nicotinic receptors (so deliriant). Taking it together, it results in an entheogen-like experience instead of a typical deliriant horror that you get from overdosing on Benadryl (Diphenhydramine, first generation antihistamine with central nervous system side-effects which cause the deliriant effects, plus some SRI activity) or the extremely dangerous Datura stramonium (Jimsonweed). Personally, I like dissociatives the most, especially Methoxetamine - probably the best ketamine derivative known to Man. It has all the benefits of ketamine and is much more kidney-friendly, as opposed to ketamine which is dangerous to take habitually for this reason. Plus, has a longer period of action. For me, psychedelics are when you are at a point where you need to delve deep inside yourself and find what you seek. Dissociatives are certainly more fun and unique in certain ways, like, you can still meet God but it will be basically the same as what people who had OOBE in hospitals describe - you see yourself rising from your body, your soul I guess, and then the experience has you feeling as if you had no body. Just "you" as in your pure consciousness travelling across a plane you could never cross physically.
>>518357551Why do you keep insulting my religion?You've already made it clear that you don't belong here.You've already made it clear that you're a mentally ill piece of shit larping as some fucking hero who thinks he can do what he wants.You have already made it clear that you've never taken psychedelics, or if you have, they made you realize how shitty of a human you are, and you've never dared to touch them again, which explains your anti psychedelic larp here.Because afterall, you have to be right and everyone else wrong, as is typical for the psychopathic narcissist.You have zero spirituality, nothing to live for, this place has become your last resort for recognition, and you're failing even at that. Here is the link again since you missed it the first time:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/23613664/#q23613664
>>518343912Kek... you know nothing about psychedelics. If you use it as a therapy you need to make your own research and focusing on things you want to change etc... all your experiments are just making junkies high. Dont do it if you have simpleton brain - its meant for strong brains and not weak.
I love how these faggot podcasters scramble what little brains they have to a point shit just doesnt make sense so trying to remember it produces some sort of Allice in Wonderland nonsense. And then they think they are Yoda or some shit and have 100 years of wisdom under their belt instead of brain damage.Weed faggots are insuffarable enough. But this is next level.
>>518350649half your country is on them how are they god mode if half your country is degenerate browns
>>518358310>You've already made it clear that you don't belong hereLmao, you're in my thread. What are you talking about?>fucking hero who thinks he can do what he wants.Well, fucking stop me then! Oh, you can't?>anti psychedelic larpIt's not a larp and as much as it pains you to REALIZE it, your drug of choice doesn't live up to the hype online about it being a miracle cure. And this thread is necessarily anti-psychedelic SO MUCH as it is anti-propaganda. You missed the part where I kept the party going for 2 straight months??!! I gave the shrooms away as a free gift!! You are miserable faggot who doesn't understand anything except how to start an argument. So much for your "higher education.">You have zero spirituality, nothing to live for, this place has become your last resort for recognition, and you're failing even at thatThat's a projection if ever there was one. Lmao. You are upset for no good reason. Just because I said that YouTube is lying about the benefits of magic mushrooms. Why are you like this? >Here is the link again since you missed it the first time:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/23613664/#q23613664I'm not clicking any links for the same reason that I don't post pictures of myself online. You will never track me without a warrant, fed shill bitch. And if you ever stack up on my door, you better come prepared for a fight.
>>518358092>MDMA and LSD un-NPC'd meNigger what? Did you browse reddid before and they made you racist kek
DMT causes even severe psychosis than LSD. I've done over 200 blotters of acid over 2 years and it fucked my brain up for good. I was completely in a world of my own for a month and later ended up in psychosomatics. I would love to see normies go full schizo.
>>518343406>You missed the part where I kept the party going for 2 straight months??!!I doubt you have ever done shrooms.You seem to think that they are like cocaine or alcohol.
>>518343533did a psychedelic bro fucked your high school crush??unironically strung up angry people like you would benefit the most from them
>>518359071>I'm not clicking any links for the same reason that I don't post pictures of myself online. It's just an archive link. His argument is that /pol/ is a psychonaut board because he can dig up posts from 2013 of people discussing psychedelics. Which is a silly position because following that logic we could call /pol/ a libertarian board too.
>>518358106You aren't "putting anything into question", you're making baseless assertions as if they're fact. This whole conservation was fucked from the beginning because if anyone were to make a calm response 1. There's nothing to respond to because you argument isn't supported by any pertinent facts 2. You wouldn't change your mind anyway because you are brainwashed by outdated propaganda 3. You wouldn't be able to understand the argument being put forth because you don't have an understanding of the psychedelic experience. Imagine being an elementary schooler, trying to tell a calculus expert that they are wrong, and being shocked when you get called an idiot. That's you.
>>518355941Good for you! Would too love a partner that isnt anal about substances>>518356619>Psychedelic art enters the chat >>518358106>Whenever I've respectfully put into question whether these substances are a legitimate path to spirituality, I have never gotten a calm, respectful answer, just like you failed to do. Maybe you should interact with people outside of 4chan/the internet. If you did that, you would know that most active proponents just see its potential in psychotherapy (which is clinically already mostly proven), and those who are into the spiritual side, mostly just see it as a tool that can be used in both good and bad ways. The types you complain about exist to 95% only on the internet.>They fail to understand that what they are describing is literally brain damage. When you learn something, a skill or a piece of information, you are creating new neural connections. >All kids have brain damage
>>518356619retarded masculinity coping, when you are truly spiritual about something it becomes effortless
>>518358310Don't waste your time on obvious kids who like to talk shit about stuff they never tried, never even seen in person. Good for them, I guess, as they're too young to interact with such powerful substances. I've noticed those most afraid of such things are the ones badmouthing them the most. Hiding their fear of the unknown behind an aggressive stance. There's no point in trying to reason with them, psychedelics are something you need to reach out to on your own, and with a clear understanding what you're doing and trying to achieve. American kids unfortunately first get to know real drugs as "medications", which is amphetamine, dexmethamphetamine and methylphenidate - like I said before. For me, prescribing actual drugs, powerful CNS stimulants like amphetamine, for kids with a temporary problem (that is ADHD) is the truly terrifying practice, as giving such young people drugs that rewire their dopaminergic neuronal pathways and impacting their reward system, while their brain is still developing intensively - that's just inhumane. Those kids are forever robbed of who they could have been if their brains weren't being fried by powerful stimulants since they were children. You thing adult stim junkies are bad? Now imagine being a drug user since you're like 11 or so, only it's called "medication".
>>518343569Did you guide these degens through their heroic dose experiences or did you just put em on the couch like "good luck bro"? Not very responsible shamanism if the later
>>518343533bad trips are fake and it's only fags having their twisted minds reflected back at them. everyone who talks about bad trips and the rapist psychedelics are trying to rape themselves into complying with a byzantine government.
>>518345225in the off-chance that this is remotely real, you realize how mentally ill you have to be to drug people up like this
>>518359226To the participants in my little experiment, shrooms are no more sacred or special than any other drug. They eat them to "get fucked up." It's not some ritual sacrament intended to commune with God and expand consciousness, etc. YouTube said that psychedelic mushrooms CURE DRUG ADDICTION. Therefore, I provided psychedelic mushrooms to literal drug addicts JUST TO FIND OUT if it was true. As it turns out, YouTube and Joe Rogan are liars. Magic mushrooms actually don't cure anything and are NOT EVEN FUN to use because everyone went back to harder drugs. Do you understand?
>>518359071>lmao in every post multiple times>I'm so fucking smart I can do what I want and you can't stop me>I talk like a faggot and my shits all retardedHow old are you, 20?Clearly retarded.>>518359259It's always been a psychonaut board, never a lolbertian, leftist, or neocon board. You're both newfags.
>>518359127Un-NPC'd in the literal, not in the 4chan sense. Showed me several ways in which I reacted automatically and allowed be to act consiously on them.>>518359708A real therapy wont work either without active participation of the patient. Your "experiment" is equivalent to kidnapping random mentally ill people, putting them into therapy, and conclude that therapy doesnt work
Personally I brew a combo of datura and narcan in my basement and load that into a backpack sprayer when I head out for the night. I can spray down an encampment and within a minute the occupants are crashed out of a nice opiate haze directly into a delirious psychedelic hellscape. I'm told the experience is extremely painful.
>>518356619>Real spirituality is developed through effort and struggleAHAHAHAHAHAHAkeep coping you neurotic freak
>>518359708>Do you understand?You know nothing about shrooms.You can't "keep the party going."If you had even a rudimentary understanding of shrooms you would understand why.
>>518359333Stop the coping. You're not giving me any arguments not because "y-y-you're brainwashed by propaganda, and it wouldn't work anyway!!!1!".You're not giving any arguments because you have none. >>518359336>>All kids have brain damageYou misunderstand.All kids are undeveloped. They build neural connections as they develop and learn skills, language, and so on.An empty plot of land is not a destroyed building. But if you build something on it then you destroy it, there has been damage.Their lack of neural connections does not make the kids "brain-damaged", but taking a drug that breaks these connections and make people recede into childlike-ness IS brain damage.>>518359371>when you are truly spiritual about something it becomes effortlessThat's exactly my point. Learning a skill and developing yourself is very hard at the beginning, but once you are accomplished and disciplined, practicing it feels effortless.The proof that developing a skill advances your spirituality is that the lessons that you learned on the way to developing that skill also make it easier to learn new ones.>>518359920If you disagree, then tell me how is spirituality developed, then. Is it developed by watching Alan Watts videos on Youtube?
>>518359485I know. Newfags against psychedelics because their massive egos makes them afraid of them, therefore nobody should use them, so they can continue larping as powerful leaders. This is unironically the reason they were banned in the first place. It's faggots like OP who lust for power.
>>518359488Each of them were gifted a quarter bag of APE and/or Jack Frost. They were told about the potency and to start with a low dose to assess their individual tolerances. If they required more, come back and get some more! The only thing I required from the was their feedback on the experience. These guys are hardcore drug users; meth, fentanyl, pills, cocaine, acid, and everything in between. So, why would I coach them? And furthermore they have ate shrooms before; just not as potent as these. I'm not a shaman.
>>518359814I mean it's not merely illogical, as a description it's hardly even meaningful. What does it objectively mean for a board to be a psychonaut board? Is it the fact that psychedelics have always been debated here? Is it because there exists a statistical consensus regarding the subject? Surely you as an academic could point us to those statistics then. Or, is it just your personal bias?
>>518360031Friend, you're not special for having used drugs. Most of us have. We simply came to different conclusions than you.
>>518360087What is the largest dose of shrooms you have taken?Describe to us the trip.How many times have you taken a large dose?This is your last chance to prove you know anything about the subject.
>>518359490Bad trips, if they happen at all, tend to happen ONLY to people who already behaved in an evil way, for the lack of a better word. Without ego to guard them from their guilt thoughts, they are forced, for the first time, to stand bare before the truth of who they were up to this point and how their behavior impacted others. THIS is what causes bad trips and you can bet a guy will get one if he says stuff like "I'm not afraid of this shit, gimmie enough for a good kick". And they receive what they asked for - a good "kick". From their own subconscious.
>>518360242How do you explain McKenna's bad trips which eventually turned him away from shrooms for good?
>>518343569>these guys, grown men, couldn't drive, couldn't remember their way home, couldn't use their phones to call for help, and one man was so overwhelmed that he broke down down crying in a restaurant parking lot. Side effects the same as too much beer then, got it.
>>518360224What is the highest dose of shrooms you have taken and how many times you have done a large dose.>weWho the fuck is we? The hacker known as 4chan?
>>518349432Google psychodelics mental health. Have a lot of articles even from APA from 2025 that these work quite well with therapy.The only one who is going with "trust me bro" here now is you.>>518350493>Euphemism for indoctrinated. Basically, the equivalent of saying that you're a homosexual.ooh watch out we have a "free thinker" here without any formal education who just knows how the world works and is here to share the news with us all! Faggots like you are exactly like druggies who saw god during tripping and changed their lives.Both of you are too stupid to comprehend how drugs work and live in your fantasy world where you are special snowflakes who are right when everyone else is wrong.
>>518359999>how is spirituality developeddon't know, don't care. >inb4 cope
>>518359999>Their lack of neural connections does not make the kids "brain-damaged", but taking a drug that breaks these connections and make people recede into childlike-ness IS brain damage. That "brain damage" can be semi-controlled through your intention and set/setting though.Destroying something dysfunctional to replace it with something healthy is an improvement and happens all the time in natureChecked tho
>>518359814But you do talk like a faggot and your arguments are retarded. How does my age excuse your illogical and irrational behavior? You're defending a position that I never argued against! I'm literally arguing against false and misleading content on YouTube. Fucking clown.
>I gave free drugs to loser druggies and mentally ill retards and they are still loser druggies and mentally ill retards.Imagine my shock
>>518360366Never happened. His brother Dennis is still actively using and they're both academics btw. Dennis and mates do real science with psychedelics and have established educational centers around them. If you're going to say this science should not happen then I'm just gonna call you a fucking fed from this moment on.
>>518359976>you know nothing about drugs>and I know EVERYTHING!!Keeping the party going is a metaphor, you tiresome pedantic mentally ill faggot.
>>518360551>I'm 20Cool. We're done here.
>>518360415>What is the highest dose of shrooms you have taken and how many times you have done a large dose.3.5g of cubensis once along with several smaller doses. The only thing that could be remotely described as insight was the thought that it would be great to have more friends. The rest of the time I would spend trying to figure out if I'm peeing in my pants or it just feels like it.>Who the fuck is we? The people participating in this thread evidently. You're misappropriating the meme concerning anonymous plurality.
>>518358236i do not compare ssri to psyhodelics, at this point for men even starting steroids is better than ssriin the end it all comes back to money and patents
>>518360673>Keeping the party going is a metaphor,One that doesn't apply to shrooms.You are trying to larp about things you have no comprehension of.
>>518360642>Never happened. His brother Dennis is still actively using and they're both academics btw."I don't know exactly when it happened and I don't know exactly what happened. I am piecing it together from what Kat (Terence's wife) has told me. It happened when they were living for a time on the Big Island and it was a mushroom trip they shared that was absolutely terrifying for Terence. It was terrifying because, for some reason, the mushroom turned on him. The gentle, wise, humorous mushroom spirit that he had come to know and trust as an ally and teacher ripped back the facade to reveal an abyss of utter existential despair. Terence kept saying, so Kat told me, that it was, "a lack of all meaning, a lack of all meaning."https://web.archive.org/web/20190209143617/https://www.mckennite.com/articles/badtrip>If you're going to say this science should not happenYou're putting words in my mouth. I don't care if it happens or not. I'm merely skeptical of the validity of such research, like I am with most research that has come out since the 60s.
>>518360514That's a good point. Personally, I don't believe this can be done in a safe and controlled way. Like letting a child set up the demolition charges.It's not a measurable and repeatable process, the results are incredibly subjective, and that's why I personally believe the risks are not worth it.But at least it explains why some people believe they can be beneficial.
>>518355241Niggers just don't have the intellectual capacity to experience what we Whites experience. Their cognitive function, spatial awareness, memory, etc. are all inferior, therefore their trips are inferior. They live and perceive on a lower functioning level than humans.
Im with birds that drink torches
>>518343406DMT is really heavy stuff. It's not for everyone or even most people.
>>518343569>His gfGtfo
>>518361197Eat the mushrooms you useless goyim. We need you retarded as we take over the world and flood it with niggers, goyim retards.
>>518344346Old man winter
>>518360366I don't follow McKenna. I always thought him a guy who had the charisma and ability to talk about the topic in a way that netted him quite a following, but to me he was an old hippy who passed the point where psychedelics were of any, actual, positive and practical use long time ago. He was amusing indeed, but if I was to name someone who I could consider an actual authority on the topic, that would be Alexander Shulgin.
>>518360366I think you can find a good dosage so that you have some insightful trips every few months and also being able to come back to reality and ground yourself after a few days after you consume themA lot of these people saying they got scared and never doing them again are the people that keep upping the dosage and do regular hero doses thinking they will find some further universal truth, as if consuming 15 grams of gts will show them something that will make them physically combust and ascend to high planes and disappear. So these people start with normal egos, they break their ego through those trips and then become so self absorbed in these experiences that they develop even bigger egos than when they started, not understanding that they are currently occupying a meat suit and no amount of mushrooms will reveal any further truth than what you were shown times and times again on lower dosagesYou had the privilege to experience something that probably 95% of the planet hasn't. You felt your sense of self destroyed and felt how it is to just be nothing at all and experienced conventional time way differently. Taking higher and higher dosages will eventually give you a bad trip because you go from reality and soul searching to angsty teen energy looking for a way out of the "matrix" or some universal truth to be implanted to your brainI would know because I've gone through all these stages. I think it's fine consuming them but I also think you should find a system to ground you here and find a perfect dosage. Also don't go apeshit and do it every other day
>>518360449>Google psychodelics mental health. Have a lot of articles even from APA from 2025 that these work quite well with therapy.Psychology and psychiatry are garbage pseudoscience for the most part.A huge circlejerk of academics sniffing their own farts and bragging about how great they smell.All the "articles" and "studies" they might put out mean nothing when they come from literally the same people that believe trannies are women, gender is subjective, races are equal, and the vaxx is safe and effective.You might as well be flipping a coin instead of consulting these morons. At least you'll have a higher chance of being right.
>>518361431Seeing as you asserted that bad trips only tend to happen to people who behave in an evil way, would you then hypothesize that McKenna must have behaved in some evil way unknown to us?
Mushrooms legit cured my debilitating 15 year run with alcoholism. If you're against mushrooms you're most likely a boomer faggot not willing to accept reality.
>>518360741You're supposed to do at least 5g dry by yourself. Preferrably in a safe environment like your home, if you live alone. Or go to a summer cottage alone.For some people it may take more than 5 grams, and you're supposed to do it again every 6 months or so.You have not done the right dose if you didn't see insane geometric visuals and experience a different reality. Usually people meet intelligent entities who know everything about you, there is no lying to them, they will show you where your biggest problems are. Your 3.5 gram cubensis experience sounds like 2 grams semilanceata. You should do 5 grams semilanceata. If OP did that, his ego would be shred to pieces and he would certainly not feel so highly of himself.
>>518343406I was a teenage autist locked in a mental box, unable to express myself due to the sheer number of mental rules I held myself subject to. Then I did shrooms and ecstasy, broke free of the box, and became a normalish human being with a PhD, a wife, and a family.
>>518361095Abuse of it without proper intention will probably make it become actual brain damage. Thats why Im also weary of making it fully legal as the normie WILL oneshot themselves without thinking about it. But on the other hand, hard abusers of them are rare, and alcohol abuse is much much worse and gives measurable actual brain damage.On a personal level one should just go by their gut feeling, it notices more than your rational brain.It helped me personally, but on regular doses it only helps on the self-improvement level
>>518347648How can I learn about these plants? How can I learn about, learn how to cultivate, and learn how to use them properly? Both fungi and plants. Is there reading? And few guide books? I have no idea where to start. I've taken mushrooms before and they helped. That was years ago. Im no stranger to psychedelics, but I hate relying on others to get them for me. Is there any reading you could recommend?
>>518360225>This is your last chance to prove you know anything about the subjectI know more than you, junkie. I had the common sense and good judgement to use guinea pigs to test the drugs before jumping into the deep end of the pool. You're suffering from some kind of delusion where you believe that I need to prove myself to you. You aren't shit to me but a tiresome, argumentative, and low IQ faggot online. You can eat an entire shit out of my ass. I'm not here to QUALIFY MYSELF to the likes of you. If you don't like what I posted here, go back to your drugs.
>>518343837psychedelics are like tossing a coin, it can improve you or make things worseonly useful for patients who's things can't get worse
>>518361930Erowid and Shroomery
>>518361597I think McKenna brought it upon himself for indeed doing a bad thing - abusing psychedelics and creating sort of a false image of them, possibly out of personal gain. Even a little bit of fame and being surrounded by people who basically consider you a guru, can corrupt even a most amicable man. It's a weakness that resides in every man.
>>518361794Thanks for the advice, but I'll have to pass. Sobriety, lucidity and calm are the only states I'm after at this point.
When one cannot deal with the depiction of the bible hell anymore (also known as society) you take Amanita and run your rat race until your body decides to flop over and die.Does not mean you have to listen to anyone else and cower in fear, no idea why you cooked that imaginary scenario together to stroke your ego with but it's not true. You just try to make a small corner of hell less awful, is all
>>518361068During his one time 8 gram trip he asked the Mushroom to show itself in the true form and he didn't like what he saw. He simply never did 8 grams again. He would continue using shrooms in smaller doses and he took acid also. I don't know about DMT. But it never turned him away from psychedelics. He just got too cocky, took too much and asked stupid questions.Skeptical is fine, but it's a good thing someone does this kind of research.
>>518362235Ok sure, but I'm looking for actual physical books too. I'd would love to be able to cultivate things myself to heal and treat instead of using petrochemical aberrations.
I like this trend because it made normalniggers think that shamanism is about getting intoxicated while real shamanism go back into semi-secrecy
>>518347648>effective in treatment of alcoholism If you call "death" an effective treatment of alcoholism, then I agree.Disulfiram and coprine both block the activity of aldehyde dehydrogenase, meaning possibly life-threatening effects depending on the amount of alcohol consumed.
>>518361930Library is a good place, try to find old books about natural medicine. Native Americans sometimes help you, sometimes turn you away. But they would know local plants. Paul Stamets has written many books, also how to cultivate psilocybin mushrooms. Eventually you need to befriend people who are experts in their field.
>>518343406>These drugs are being recommended to assist in controlling the massesthey assist in the opposite of that>can you imagine being high out of your fucking mind in shrooms when the jews finally activate project bluebeam to accelerate the alien invasion narrative?definitely avoid psychedelics since you're already a schizophrenic
>>518362436He probably saw Lenin. Since, like we all know, Lenin was a mushroom. He became a mushroom through being a hard working communist who also loved mushrooms so much, he became one with them. It's true, you can still find the original emission of the program where Lenin's transformation into a mushroom was revealed. Now he lives on inside the mushroom community. Truly, he was a communist, mushroomist Buddha.
>>518362937Well no, after consuming coprine (cooked) even one beer will induce the horrible effects in a few minutes. You cannot accidentally drink too much, that's why they prescribe Antabuse for alcoholics who want to quit. This mushroom grows everywhere and is free, you don't need a prescription for it.
>>518343406>be OP>grow psilocybin shrooms to larp as Dr Mario>hands them out for free to all his junkie homeless friends who already have addiction issues>they don’t help the homeless fentanyl junkies with their issues>makes a thread on 4channel in 2025 to brag about his “findings”>”reeeee these are demonic fungi and plants! You’ve all been tricked!!
>>518363239Pretty sure it was something far more horrific. Like something even McKenna didn't want to meet ever again. But let's keep in mind McKenna was an American scholar who wondered into the mushroom field with his brother while looking for a completely different substance. The story goes, they were tripping balls for a week and the people they were travelling with tought they're in a full blown psychosis. He continues doing psychedelics and decades later he is cocky enough to take too much and ask stupid questions, it's entirely possible the Mushroom just grew tired of him. Have you ever had to live with an American for decades?
>>518363338Yea, but living in Poland, I can tell you I've never heard anyone gathering Coprinus mushrooms to help "cure" their alcoholism. Also disulfiram stopped to be produced here and in 99% cases people get vitamins implanted instead of disulfiram. Why? Because there's this belief among drunkards that you can "drink through the implant, to the point it no longer has an effect" which, obviously, caused many fatalities. Today, you can only get real disulfiram if you specifically ask for it and are ready to have it imported (pay for it). It's Vodka belt country, what can I say. It improved vastly after 90's, but now there are more alcoholics than ever due to the (illegal) influx of Ukrainians. In terms of drinking, they're like ruskies.
>>518363089I'm a complete amateur in the field. I'm not stupid, but I need a more solid starting point and a methodology. The book cover you posted, would this be a good start? I'm looking to understand fungi and plants as a whole so I can cultivate them as easily as possible. I'd rather learn through published guides and scientific methods than through online "first hand" accounts, like the websites the German guy responded to me with. I'm sure they're fine and contain good info, but I would like a foundational baseline to start at so I can build from there and actually learn, not just mimic what other people have done without knowing the rhyme and reason.
america runs on drugs
>>518343406I’ve done acid at least a hundred times when I was 19-21. It changed everything about me for the better. It opens your eyes to the real nature of things. It makes you feel a connection with the world and the universe beyond. For religious people, I’m sure it brings them closer to god. But as others in this thread have said, it’s not meant for everyone. Most people can not handle ego death or the nullification of their senses. They can not handle watching everything they’ve ever assumed about the world melt before their eyes. It takes a strong mind, and anytime I see someone shilling against psychedelics I assume they’re either weak minded or corporate pharmacy shills who should suck start a shotgun.
>>518364031And I am the type of person who always assumed out of body experiences were complete horseshit until I experienced one for myself on three hits and a few shots of vodka. It got me interested in metaphysics and the nature of consciousness as something separate from the body.
>>518363896Taking Antabus (or coprine) and force drink, having all the horrible effects, that's just retarded. Despite what faggot OP says, replacing alcohol with psilocybin should work in most cases. I've tried alcohol while on shrooms and it just tasted negative.
>>518364001Yeah books by Paul Stamets are good English books. Most of mine are in Finnish and only local plants and fungi.
>>518343406meds
>>518364001The shroomery . org is a site that hosts information from advanced mycologists as well as beginners. It's a vast resource of information and has a very helpful community that responds to any questions you may have quickly. For your purposes of learning to cultivate mushrooms at home, it is your best choice for a quick start; they provide free, easy to follow instructions on everything from agar to harvest. It's worth checking out.
>>518364217Good for you. This one guy on shrooms (iirc) was taken outer space by a shiny humanoid who pointed at Earth, then made it spin really fast as in forward speeding time. The guy then was allowed to zoom in and he saw only war and suffering, to which the shiny humanoid simply said>stop thisThe guy was weeping so hard he remembered this part of the trip forever.Usually they just show you something incredibly beautiful to make you weep, and then right after show something even more beautiful, until you can't take any more.
>>518364546>>518365003Appreciate the help friends. I'll look into it!
>24 pbtid
>>518365003Agar is a fuck, especially for beginners just wanting to do a couple tubs. Just go straight to using spores or lc to inoculate grain.
>>518343406>All capacity for self-control, rational thought, logic, or even basic survival skills is neutralized until you're sober again.have you never heard of meditation?! pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
>>518344256Shut the fuck up you’re still a Jew.
>>518343800These faggots sit online larping, they are as deep as a puddle afraid of anything that might give them depth
>>518344421Its hard when ots a nind expanding drug, but everyone around is a mystery meat 65 iq nigger. Ive had great personal growth with these but I dont expect subhumans to mimic my experience.
>>518365843Agar gives you control over so many factors that are essential to growing healthy fruits that neglecting it is a mistake. Yeah, it's a pain in the ass pouring agar plates. But agar allows you to spot contamination before you transfer to grain or LC; which will maximize your yields. Agar is also necessary for cloning and breeding; an essential skill for maximum potency. Multispore Syringes are often a source of contamination and can cause you to waste your grain, AIO bag, or bulk substrate by introducing trichoderma or other molds. Just one drop of your syringe on agar and the mycelium will grow away from the contamination and you can isolate a clean culture. Otherwise, you're gambling on whether your grow will be successful.
>government makes enlightening substances illegal >The government is pushing this bro, trust meEveryone should do DMT at least once. Magic mushrooms are practically a rite of passage in European cultures and has been since before the pyramids were built. Fuck off with your faggy message you fag
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>>518343912>Mushrooms didn't magically cure my nephew of homosexuality.It doesn't work like that. You would have to talk to him about why he's gay and he would have to be open to introspection and self-improvement. Undoing any trauma-based behavior requires self-relfection or at the very least a determination to fundamentally change one's behavior and life.
>>518366507I understand that, but if you are getting your stuff from a reputable vendor, there should be little to no contam. Honestly its just as easy to get contam from doing agar transfers. A contaminated grain jar once in a while is well worth not messing with agar imo.
>>518348534Sure thing nigger.>crack head breaks into your garage to pawn tools>goy boozer gets wasted and drives a car, killing family, happens all the time>mushroom enjoyer eats a handful, trips out walking around or looking at cool artYea i can tell you dont know what the fuck you are talking about, its so obvious talking to faggots who never left their safe space.
>>518343406Drugs break the mind down you fucking nigger retards. It won't 'cure' you of anything, you have to realise only your self control and self mastery can do this, not 'by the superpowers LSD can give you'. That being said, its an amazing drug to have fun with. I hate the faggots who are on a life quest to do ayahuasca enemas to 'cleanse themselves'. Actual troony shit.
>>518361562>Seething kike
>>518366749>Magic mushrooms are practically a rite of passage in European cultures and has been since before the pyramidsFast forward to modern day and you see that the Europeans are so docile that illegal immigrants can rape them en masse while their government provides support to the invaders. My arguments are not baseless. You should safeguard your brain and health at all costs - even if it means foregoing a "rite of passage." You kind of prove the point of my OP that the push for psychedelics is part of a social engineering scam. >Fuck off with your faggy message Your fellow countrymen are being ethnically cleanser and raped out of existence WHILE YOU SIT ONLINE...and you would call me a faggot? Lmao. You're a piece of shit.
>>518365089Thanks for sharing. I’ve only experienced Psilocybin a handful of times compared to LSD. The biggest difference I noticed was that I was focused more on myself and my own preconceived notions about how things are or are supposed to be. I was way more critical of myself and my beliefs compared to LSD. I never experienced anything quite like what you described, but wish that I could.>>518366749Well said.
>>518343406>>518343533Look motherfucker, I'm suck of you faggots taking SSRIs, fucking ozempic, and the Vaxx telling me what to put in my body. Medical experts are lying retards. If you don't like it, or are a pussy, don't take it.THE WEEDS TOO STRONG. don't smoke it you over reading fucking queer. Mind your own god damn business.
>>518349053You sound so unhinged.>my friends ateSo you dont have first hand experience, bot shocking by your schizo text wall>everyday for two weeksThe most obvious hole in your story, nobody is eatting shrooms like that, they are not nearly as potent doing this. Your body rejects the idea of even wanting to eat them. Again you would know this if you had any experience but you just schizo rant. In the rare case this story is true it just proves you are a retarded nigger, because who else would be friends with other retarded niggers.
>>518367132Such a clueless faggot you are. Keep on lapping that artificially brewed piss of yours.
>>518367358>Muh steve jobs hippy memeYou dumb nigger, steve jobs had a good time on LSD, therefore it fixes your life? You are and always will be a slave that buys into these tropes. Steve Jobs also didn't shower for a year or two straight and did weird diets, delaying critical pancreatic cancer treatment in favour of weird Jeet coffee enemas. He also didn't donate shit to charity.Again, you're a fucking nigger.
>>518367357Your reading comprehension is taking a hit from your substance abuse; you misread that post. Am I unhinged? You going to use the psuedo-sciences to diagnose me, mister homo man?
>>518351066The vibes on these substances truely are out of grasp for the normies who comment with no experiences.I was tripping on lsd and there was a fly in the room with me while the laddies tripped upstairs on shrooms. I just sat watching it and when we were chilled out I reached out and pet it. The amount of times other animals have known I was tripping is crazy, they have the secret sense.
>>518367573Cannabis cured my alcoholism and suicidal depression. It also helps me with my own scientific work, and I learnt several foreign languages in the process. > delaying critical pancreatic cancer treatment in favour of weird Jeet coffee enemas. Which allowed him to live 7 years while those who didn't delay the treatments on average live 2 with the diagnosis of his.> He also didn't donate shit to charity.To niggers like you? Yep, fuck niggers like you.
>>518343406You’ve obviously never tripped the light Fantastic.
>>518367235>Same government that bans enlightening substances also imports hordes of browns to wither away at national and civic identity >Bro it's the shrooms fault honestly Are you sure you're not on drugs? Shrooms have been part of the culture of the British isles for as long as there have been people here. The government made them illegal around 20 years ago... Round about the time when they started importing smelly unwashed hordes. Come to think of it, the exact opposite of what you're saying is true lol. And yes you're definitely a fag.
>>518368121These people can’t comprehend that humans are not a monolith and that drugs affect different people in different ways. Likely they smoked too much weed one time and had a panic attack and now assume everyone else is as susceptible to outside influences as they are. Glad you made the most of your use anon.
>>518366749>mckennafucking retard fried his nervous system always had a shaky voice after.>duuude we gotta escape the matrix n shieetperhaps we were born into this world to overcome by conventional means not just drop out with the aid of chemicals like some kind of cheat.
>>518343723yea anyone who just takes whatever amount of psychedelics they feel like without doing dosage research gets what they in for>ohhh he never did benadryl before>tell him to eat 70 of em>lel
>>518368239You can't comprehend what I'm saying, junkie. Go get raped and replaced by your demographic superiors. I don't have time to split hairs over semantics and correct your thinking.Eat shit and call it caviar.
I've read every post from OP itt and can conclude he is either:>a) a larping faggot>b) a retarded faggot>c) a nigger faggotTake your pick lads (might be all three)
>>518368592Cope normie. Aren’t you late for your Alcoholics Anonymous meeting?
>>518368792All three. My money is on all three
>>518368592Please explain it to me, tell me if I've got it wrong, I'll go extra slow for the hard of thinking.Your position >The government that made these substances illegal actually want you to take them, as they make you passive and turn you into a hippy fag or something.>You have never done any of these substances and have a very limited understanding of them.>You are in denial with regards your limited intellect and latent homosexuality.>You probably don't have a partner, and are of limited financial means. >You have never done any activities dedicated to self betterment eg martial arts or gym/running My position >The same government that banned these substances also imported brown hordes to erode national identity, because they want good goy mutt wage slaves, and have convinced you these substances are bad for you>I am a well off business owner with 3 beautiful children and went to the gym at 5am this morning (rather than being caught in a YouTube algorithm about DMT or whatever it is that's made you freak out this way)>Once a year I do shrooms, couple times a year I do DMT, and I am objectively better than you in any way you could measureThat's y u mad tho
>>518368792Put me down for 5 quid, A and B
>>518343406Lol i did lsd 64 times and all it did was make me hate jews more
It's funny what a bunch of know it all post here, so many of you are purely full of shit it's hilarious.
>>518367232Nice meme, but you're wrong. Psychiatry is the most jewish industry ever.
>>518361930Just google “mushroom full auto kit”, they’re legal to buy for “research purposes” and even a brain dead retard can grow himself a year supply in a month.Then start with a 1.5g to test the effect on you. Week or two later you can up to 2.5-3.5g. This is where the real shit starts. If you want to dive in, then 5g is optimal. 8g and you dancing on the edge of your mental limits. 10g and more will not really bring you any additional benefits though
>>518369412What psychedelics do is to make people more malleable and make them susceptible to accept the ideas in their social environment with less critical scrutiny.For you, a person that browses /pol/, it made you hate jews more easily because those are the views that are shared the most here.But a person in an extreme leftist environment, like universities, that consumes leftist media, that person will become a rabid leftist and take anything from his trusted sources as gospel.Psychedelics make a person more "open-minded" in the worst possible way. They open your mind, so all kinds of trash seem plausible and can be seen as acceptable. They didn't make you more critical and capable of better reasoning. If you learn anything that is true from them, it's pure accident. Your mind was primed to accept anything you heard as true.Sobriety and reason are the only way for true discernment.
>>518369412Same. Made me very alienated and angry. I think one of the things norms go out is this idea of ego dissolution. To norms ego as a meaning is grown out of egocentricism which they wrongly havee taken to mean self centred. Ego however is projections and an egocentric believes in their own false projections, e.g. >he believes his cool sunglasses are cool and everyone else thinks hes cool when he wears them.The ego dissolution is the loss of belief in your own projections and those of society and the social engineers. If anything the main character syndrome we all possess to a degree is fortified with tryptomides because we realise that we are the only arbitrator of our reality as we see it on a personal level. For me the painful realisation that all humanoids are not the same took a long time to come to terms with. Once that was accepted i started differentiating humanoid types and, well lets just say, negros and the Irish didn't stand up too well to my desperate search for similar people of my group/type/tribe/whatever.
>>518370332>What psychedelics do is to make people more malleable and make them susceptible to accept the ideas in their social environment with less critical scrutinyBasically the opposite of this for White males, but yeah, nigs, brown filth and women are enternal consoomers regardless of their consumptions and life choices.
>>518370332>Sobriety and reason are the only way for true discernment.Far from all your decisions in life are based on reason. Strong emotional experiences are superior to rationality when it comes to making lifestyle changes, because we are not ruled by rationality nearly as much as we would like to be. If we were there would be no smokers or overweight people. Fatties can go years rationally knowing they should lose weight but it isn't until they have a minor heart attack that they get a massive wake up call and take action, much like a smoker can smoke for years and know it's objectively stupid but it isn't until they have a trip and supremely powerful experiences cause their brain to completely change the way it perceives the act of smoking.
>>518370667You understood nothing of what I just said. A White right-winger will become more of a right-winger after taking drugs while absorbing right wing messagery.A White left-winger hippie will become more of a left-winger hippie after taking drugs while absorbing left wing hippie messagery.These drugs don't lead you to any sort of truth, they just intensify your ability to absorbe whatever beliefs your environment is feeding you, regardless if they're true or false. In short, they make you more gullible. Which is the reason why so many clowns in the mainstream are currently promoting them as the ultimate Smart Rich People Hack™.There might be an exception for a tiny free-thinking subsection of the population that intentionally isolates itself from mass propaganda, but for the great majority, most Whites included, they are a tool for mass conditioning.
>>518370971I completely agree with your point, but it's irrelevant and it doesn't negate anything of what I've said.You have talked about what motivates people to take action, I talked about what leads people to knowing the truth and making the right decisions.Emotional experiences motivate action, regardless if it's right or wrong, but reason is still the correct way of taking decisions.You've brought up examples of people taking correct decisions, such as losing weight and quitting addictions, on the basis of emotion, but the opposite is far more common.These people continued in their bad habits while knowing they were harmful due to emotional reasons. And they also got into these habits in the first place due to emotional reasons.Using your own example, if the smoker or overweight person didn't rationally understand that their habits were bad, the emotional experience wouldn't have altered their behavior unless they already knew by reason what was the right choice.It was only the rational knowledge plus the emotional experience that led to people changing their ways.Emotion is just the trigger that makes us finally truly internalize what reason told us all along.
>>518343406Psychedelic mushrooms are much better for you than 95 percent of your disgusting big pharmaceutical industry drugs that are pushed onto you and your childrenMaybe worry about the children that surgeons that are sterilising before puberty instead of some non addictive drug that makes you trip. A mushroom trip is generally positive if you put some effort into making it a good trip and can have positive mental effects. Imo.
>>518343569>I gave a meth junkie full dose shrooms in a parking lot and he FREAKED OUTI’m no psychedelic shill, it has negative effects for sure and you may be on to something with the thread thesis, but god damn you sound stupid
>>518371156>A White right-winger will become more of a right-winger after taking drugs while absorbing right wing messagery.This. My friend and I will share a gram of K once every couple months and put on some classical music, it invokes strong imagery of aincent civilisations, beautiful landscapes and lush forestry etc. It makes us both yearn for a clean beautiful country again and refreshes us mentally and unloads a bit of stress. I've taken DMT on a hike in dense forestry on a hillside too. You don't need drugs to have fun or to appreciate nature but DMT and shrooms come from nature themselves. Just try not to abuse or rely on hard drugs (especially alcohol) during tough times. Obviously. Not taking drugs is ofcourse optimal but I'm happy I've experienced trips.
>>518344256Based
>>518371156Its not i can't understand you. I don't agree with you>they just intensify your ability to absorbe whatever beliefs your environment is feeding you, regardless if they're true or false.This is completely wrong and not what happens to White men. This is what happens to you and you project that as universal. Leftists are so because its an in group preference and a bias by which they are unified by a mutual agreement on what they see as diametric opposition to themselves and their group. No amount of truth reveals or new ways of viewing reality can dissolve that in group preference which is a biological essence.This is quite different from right wing type stereotypes who are held in check and away from their own in group preference by a propoganda machine. Tryptomides in high levels destroy the illusion and effects of said propoganda which is why you see those you think of as being right wing - as in not similar and therefore in opposition to leftists - as becoming more to the right. What you must be confusing as believing all propoganda is formed because you believe typical right leaning ides of nation, race and the value of cultural heritage are formed by malicious propoganda, rather than organic positions that would be prevalent as they have been throughout history were it not for aggressive cultural engineering to present normality as otherwise.
>>518343406Look, faggot, I don't believe any of that hippy shit, all I know is taking shrooms is a great time. So fuck you and the podcasters.
>>518372962>Everyone who disagrees with me is not whiteHmmm... I guess we're no longer having a rational conversation. What a pity, you seemed like an intelligent person until just now.I guess even among Whites, the ability to have polite and rational discussion is rare. Oh well, at least I tried.
>>518372962You said it yourself, you are afflicted by main character syndromeIn the end everything you put a label on is a mental construct nigger
>>518372962By the way, most of your assumptions about me are also incorrect.
>>518344256> untermenschYou’re the reason this word exists you fucking rat jew piece of shit.
>>518373291I being polite. Also i never called you anything. White is not an ethnic group, a race or a nation; is a term used by brown skinned people to describe the others they are visually and culturally not.My only point was to respectfully disagree that tryptomides do NOT increase gullibility and acceptance of ideas a beliefs, more like the opposite from my extensive experience in this field, and that the example of leftoids becoming more left and rightoids becoming more right is a false premise because the dynamic that leads to those persuasions are racial and cultural rather than a social construct and is therefore therefore a flawed example.
>>518373340>you are afflicted by main character syndromeEveryone is. That's what it is to be a human with a soul.
>>518370520Your're fucked, the Irish are great.
>>518370332That's why set and setting are very important, it's best to be in nature to have profound experiences.
>>518343406We’re bringing psychedelics to the mainstream because we’re gonna massacre pharma by getting millions off useless antidepressants and on to natural fixes, Jew.I know it angers you to see people like me who stopped taking SSRIs because psilocybin fixed my depression, but accept it, kike, your profits will soon be fading. Because, after Al, you can’t copyright or trademark a plant, and it kills you.You sound like a fag, take 6g of good shrooms and change your life for the better, jew, you may even begin to see that your people are true demons after enough doses.
>>518374454Yup, rightoidtards and their Jewish masters cant fathom
>>518343533That is a retarded take. I have had a severely bad trip and I still view it as beneficial to my mental health. It also helped me with my depression.
>>518355941Hell yeah call em out!
>>518374401>it's best to be in nature to have profound experiences.I would argue the opposite. Being outdoors in an unfamiliar environment, surrounded by bugs and where you could be attacked by a wild animal, while high off your mind on drugs will be terrifying and ensure a terrible trip.If you've actually spent a lot of time in nature, you understand that it isn't the soft fairytale environment that childhood Disney movies sell you. It's a brutal environment where being helpless even for an hour can mean death. In many countries, children and elderly people are torn apart alive by packs of wild hogs and other much "natural" wild animals.Nature is something to be respected and almost feared, not something you wander off into carelessly, that's how you end up mauled to death.If you're going to do drugs, at least stay indoors in a safe and comfortable environment. That's like druggie 101.
>>518370332>What psychedelics do is to make people more malleable and make them susceptible to accept the ideas in their social environment with less critical scrutiny.This is the truth. My brother helped a friend of his come out of a very bad trip by giving him suggestions and directives in the third person. For example:>Josh is having a bad trip>Josh is calming down now>Josh is getting up off the floor>Josh is walking to the bedroom >Josh is going to sleep now>Josh is going to be okayThat guy went from ego-death and crying hysterically to peaceful and calm in under 2 minutes. And never once thought it was weird that he was being spoken to in the third person. It was like my brother was programing that guy's brain directly.
>>518376050Finally, someone that gets it.Your post just reminded me that Timothy Leary, a very famous psychologist from the 1970s, also used psychedelics in this exact way.He devised a method with which he could reprogram the mind of a person with the combined use of psychedelic drugs and therapy.He could change the default responses, assumptions and worldview of his patients with it.He successfully used in on criminals that were in prison, and he drastically reduced criminal reincidence rates among the inmates that were freed after his treatment.This is why I warn people ITT to avoid psychedelics unless they're isolated from the mainstream propaganda machine. Most people are exposed to it, and taking psychedelics while consuming mainstream propaganda will just scramble your brain and turn you into an NPC.The great majority of people are much better off trying to change their habits and worldview through conscious and deliberate action rather than drugging themselves.
>>518371708My point is that life is full of decisions that most people rationally know what the right decision or course of action is, but they lack the emotional catalyst to trigger and maintain change. The rational knowledge is already there in many cases, only the emotional motivation is missing. To me that's in stark disagreement with your sentiment that:>Sobriety and reason are the only way for true discernment.Because there are very deep questions that at some point you need to answer in life, like "what do I actually value and want to do with my time," "do I still love my partner and see a future with them," or similar, and these questions can actually be very hard to answer rationally while during a trip the answer can be so obvious that you feel as if the whole universe is screaming it at you. I don't think you're particularly wrong about people under the influence just reinforcing their beliefs if they are actively absorbing political media, but that's (IMO) not how you're supposed to do drugs, at least I hope there aren't people who take acid then tune into Ben Shapiro or turn on Destiny's stream instead of enjoying nature, listening to music, drawing etc.
>>518343406Took lsd every week for like 6 months. Not sure how it affected me. I dont really remember much from that time and im sure that my iq dropped by a few points as a result but im fine i guess.Frying your brain just a little bit aint so bad, you will get along better with normies.
>>518376724>>518376050>>518370332You guys are totally correct. Psychadelics will open up the mind and someone who doesn't know what it is, don't understand the drug or psychadelics at all will open their mind for everything.If you know what it is, and having your feets on the floor you can do miracles with your mind. Its like drugs overall. You can't just go with flow but have to have control over the flow.
>>518368426I think the Mushroom grew tired of this cocky yank too, but what do you mean by>conventional?I have been shown that religions were started by the psychedelic experience.Shamanism predates every other religion.So what the fuck is>conventionalto you?Shrooms existed before apes.
>>518343406Mushrooms provide a slight mental reset by causing your neurons to fire randomly giving some "white noise" to weaken neural connections.Overuse beyond that just makes you retarded.
>>518377651activities were meant to cause a release of feel good transmitters, dopamine, endorphine etc. not chemically induced, understandbily stoners dont feel the need to do anything in theri lives, to achieve anything since they already artificially induce a heavenly state.>shamansyeah ok how many of those hippie faggots actually contribute any actual religious teachings after their endless trips?
>>518378212>weaken neural connections.What you are describing is literally brain damage. When you leanr a skill you create neural connections, when you get brain damage you undo them.This is yet another example of what I said earlier (>>518358106): even people acquainted with psychedelic use admit they unwittingly admit it causes brain damage but somehow try to spin it as a positive thing.
>>518343406gee, must be a cohenincidence, pushing youngs into drugs
>>518377111>my iq dropped by a few pointsdoubt. You're already at the bottom, sober.
>>518377111also, taking drugs like the lowest gyppo dwelling into 10 stories commie blocks in Ferentari is not normie. Please overdose.
>>518343406>>518343406>>518343406Reminder that the "no tail", "tailless" posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize furfag degeneracy across the board.You're welcome.>>518129824>>518129824
>>518379367Nobody cares. Nobody is becoming a furfag overnight because of that retarded spammer whose posts are deleted within a few minutes anyway.You bringing his attention to it and annoying others in the process only makes it worse.
>>518378595>What you are describing is literally brain damage. When you leanr a skill you create neural connections, when you get brain damage you undo them.It doesn't only happen when you learn a skill, it happens when you make any associations. Addiction is an example of these associations leading to maladaptive behavior. The Book Atomic Habits includes an example of a woman who always used to smoke when she rode on horses, many years later she stopped smoking and a few years after that she went horseback riding after not having doing it or smoked for many years, the moment she sat in the saddle she felt an extreme urge to smoke a cigarette, because her brain still had firmly cemented neural connections between smoking and riding. Connections like that weakening is not brain damage.
>>518376050>My brother helped a friend of his come out of a very bad trip by giving him suggestions and directives in the third person.Jesus give me strength with these morons.1. No such thing as bad trips, they're all teaching you some profound info you're ignoring.2. You still associate psychedelics with the American hippie movement in the 1960s3. Shrooms and other plants such as Peyote and weed have been around for thousands of years, your thread doesn't take this into consideration4. Hey! I'm cool, I'm American, I'm 20,I know everything about psychedelics, I have bros, I can do what I want and nobody can stop me!If I'm being honest here, your thread is a full larp, you came here to ask for acceptance though you're a schizo psycho narcissistic fuck up. What you meant to say was, psychedelics are not a magic wand, there can be downsides, mentally ill people should not use them, but overall the subject is largely not studied due to the fact they're kept illegal by power hungry cunts who only want more power.This thread exposed you. One of your family is in the streets, you thought psychedelics are magic, you thought giving a cap to him/her fixes everything, but in reality you're kinda stupid and don't know how to deal with this.You could have just asked for our help. You could have asked if there are any Shamans around. What do you think, is it too late for a literal Jew?
>>518343406I’ve dosed well over 100 times over a decade and it enhanced my neural capacity. I work as a software engineer professionally and I don’t believe in made up jewish fairy tales. Would highly recommend, especially in nature and by yourself. It’s nice being in a thunderstorm in the mountains high as balls, barefoot in an alpine meadow, then skipping rocks on a lake when the sun comes out. And don’t fuck around with a bitchmade dose, 3-5 tabs minimum. If your mind can’t handle it, you’re probably meant to go to church like the rest of the cattle.
>>518380014>1. No such thing as bad trips, they're all teaching you some profound info you're ignoring.Bad trips absolutely exist. Negative experiences can teach you things, but that does not mean the experience itself wasn't negative.
>>518378362>shamans>trips>hippieJust as expected, Muhammad does not know the first thing about Shamanism.Watch this closelyhttps://youtu.be/-XagZt80bTs
>>518379797It's not one retarded spammer, it's a squad of tranny spammers and their posts are deleted because they are jannies and want to make a fuss about it.Now seethe.
>>518380142Thank you Sherlock. Negative is bad, just like the negative end of your battery. If only we could get rid of all the negativity.
>>518379869Good point. However, with these drugs, you cannot selectively choose which neural connections you preserve and which ones you destroy. There is no established and repeatable process through which you can selectively target bad habits to remove while keeping what you want in place.You could be destroying the ones related to reasonable social inhibitions, good manners and social skills, while not affecting addictive triggers like the one you described.A conscious effort in distancing yourself from known triggers for bad habits and replacing them with positive ones will be far more effective than just throwing napalm all over your brain and hoping the weeds burn and the nice plants remain.>>518380459Why would I seethe? I hardly ever cared about it until you stared to spam random threads about it. Ever heard of the Streisand Effect?
>>518380142Bad trips are either an indication that:1. Something is wrong with your perspective that needs to change.2. Something is wrong with your environment that needs to change.3. Something is wrong about your intention that needs to change.4. Something is wrong in your life that needs to change.The integration of that experience involves identifying what that issue actually is and then resolving it. A bad trip can help with identifying that issue.
>>518380621Because I know when somebody seethes, r*ddit nigger. It's my super power.Kek faggot.
