Vegans still deal with nutrient deficiencies. They get more protein and fats than fruitarians, but the big issue is bioavailability. The nutrients in plants just aren’t absorbed as well as the ones in meat. Plant iron, zinc, omega-3s, and even protein are way less usable by the body. Vegans can take supplements, but that just proves the diet isn’t naturally complete. Meat gives you everything in forms your body actually needs, no pills required.
>>518436394So what was her objective? What was she trying to prove? Even the worms are probably disappointed
>>518436454You'd think once she became anorexic she'd actually eat some real food... Guess not
>>518436394God, imagine the tighteness in that pussy.
>>518437743You're a freak, you're a horny north African man living in Spain.
>>518437803Cmon man, you and your people stick your dicks in this. Get down of your high horse.
>>518436394/fit/ and /ck/ are insistent that fruit makes you fat, and zoo animals/farm animals need to be weaned off fruit because they get too fat. Sugar in fruit = insulin spike = larger fat storage = fat and unhealthy even at calorie deficit. Podcast doctors say fruit is bad for hearth health,But I just don't think that's true. Every fit person loves fruit, healthy people love fruit, and these vegan skeletons only eat fruit. What's going on here?
>>518438121Unless you're gorging on dried fruit (love me some abhorrently expensive dried mango, myself) or nuts, you're mostly consuming a lot of water.Then again, if what you eat is mostly dried fruit then you get some really fast-tracked shits.I'm gonna stick mostly to what my grandparents and earlier ate man, not this weird shit.
>>518438121Mono diets make you lose alot of weight due to the imbalance of carbs, meats and fats. You can eat a healthy life if you balance all three out but if you cut any one of the three down to the minimum you will lose weight.
>>518436394>less than 23kilograms>adultHow is that even possible? having sex with her would be so weird
>>518436394the smart vegans know how to hit the full nutrition spectrumthat bitch is some retard jumping on a fad bandwagon, like she can hit on/off on a subscribe button
>>518438469would've been*
>>518438525Would be, too.Remember the Parisian Catacombs.
I bet you anything she didn't eat any of the rinds or skins or peels of the fruit. You can eat oranges and their peels and get a lot just from that. Fruits are OP if you actually consume the whole thing.Sucks to suck I guess.
>>518438559
>carnivore defies tens of thousands of years of evolution to become an overnight herbivore>diesIpso facto.
>>518438121>fruit makes you fatRubbish. They confuse fructose and sucrose with high-fructose corn syrup, and LOSING weight with GAINING it.
>>518436394>Veganism does this too it's just less noticeableyeah no shit. anyone with a brain knows this
>>518438568Its like removing the peels from potato's. Hell you don't even need to skin carrots for it to cook properly. It removes a good amount of nutrition when you do so. In ye olden days they took the skins and made a broth so an orange rind would add a much needed citrus to the broth if you want too.
>>518437743that does not correlate, trust me.
>>518438121>fruit makes you fatlol
>>518438121>/fit/ and /ck/Imagine unironically using 4chan as a source, especially using a bunch of roidtroons that STILL can't get pussy even though they're buff, as a source
>23 kilogramsEnglish please?
>>518438121There's some weird interaction with medium protein diets that slow your metabolism and allow you to pack on weight easier and carb/fat interactions which also make you pack on the pounds. Going all carb or all protein or all fat keeps your metabolism high and weight low. I'm not sure how much is truly understood mechanically or I guess metabolically but it seems the correlations are pretty well known. Exclusive fruit diets are just a low density form of all carb diets so unless you're really working for it it's often hard to meet your energy needs on raw unprocessed fruit alone leading to this kind of outcome when you're already probably trending toward having an eating disorder.
>>5184387510pl8
>>518438751>100 McDonald's quarter pounders
>>51843875140 buckets of KFC chicken
>>518436394
>>518438773protein consumption has only a small overall effect on your metabolism so i don't think that's true
>>518438849Would have saved her
>>518439168I will eat a McDonald's meal today in her memory
>>518439238God bless
>>518436394Veganism is stupid but I have to say if she just ate some carbs and high protein veggies she still could have been vegan and wouldn't have ended up like this. She probably had an eating disorder and was an anorexic. I bet she also believed some stupid spiritual shit.
>>518436394Eat meat first and you will be happyI don't need strict vegan lifestyleJust like what happened in Ukrainian peasants after Holodomor
>>518436394Imagine looking in the mirror and thinking this is in any way or form healthy. Must be some serious mental illness... >>518437743I would imagine quite the opposite. That "tube" probably is still the normal size but there is just nothing around pushing against it since she at that point is probably pretty hollow. Probably like sticking your dick in a sock that is flapping in the wind.
>>518438121>/fit/ and /ck/ are insistent that fruit makes you fatHow many people have you ever seen get fat by eating fruits? Use your fucking retarded brain for once.
>be me>does not eat processed or cooked food>eat only fruit forever>many years later>die of exhaustion
>>518437937What happened to British orange face?
>>518440350Its Hoholodomor, zigger
From what I've heard on the matter, veganism is often just a pretext for anorexia. These emaciated, malnourished vegans (and fruitarians, of course) just aren't eating. If they -- at least those of the former camp, that is -- actually got over their eating disorder and started eating a sufficient amount of plant-based calories then they may at last cease being anemic zombies.Or maybe not, who knows.
>>518438697It makes sense that whalelords have it tighter with all the fats pushing out in every direction
>>518436394All you need is McDonald's.
>>518441152>>518436394
>>518436394veganism should be made illegal, as a slow form of suicide.in italy about 10 years ago they banned vegan babies, as infants were dying of malnutrition.vegan mother breastfeeding their baby carried insufficient nutrients and the baby dies. search for "vegan baby dies".it can't support life and is child abuse or a form of ritualistic suicide.vegan propaganda should be illegal and the cult itself.
>>518439238heroalthough there's no much meat in mcdonald's. I recommend buying organic minced beef and hand-making your own
fucking vegan propagandaist who wants to eat only vegan food and die because of malnutritioni never saw vegan propaganda in the public places. who cares?
>>518436394Bioavailability is overhyped by keto and carnivore fags. Just eat more of what you need or supplement.
>>518441423Yes, and keto in any form is totally safe and healthy.
>>518441423>veganism should be made illegal, as a slow form of suicide.why?if people wanna die, let them die those bitches are fucked in the head, they bring no benefit to anyone
>>518436454She fell in with a group of vegan influences on instagram, clearly wanted to be an insta influencer herself, but the whole sektur is filled with toxic positivity so while she was clearly and visibly starving herself to death, her comments section was filled with words of encouragement feeding into her delusions. Since she was a Pole she was kinda dumb and didn't realize that the veganism, the chakras, and the crystals was all a grift and all those people swearing up and down that they have only eaten fruit for ten years but somehow manage to look fit and healthy are just lying to grift retards like her.
How to get fat easily 101>Drink 30 gallons of deep frying oil>Done right?
>>518441791welp, she cared for likes more than she cared for lifegot what she wanted, all is well
>>518436394it's still one of the funniest things to me that steve jobs died for the same reasonlollmao
>>518436394would
>>518438121I eat 70-80g protein for breakfast everyday, then I consume another 40-50 throughout the day in other meals. This, as it maintains my lean muscle, at 80kg, this is more than enough for maintenance and muscle creation(hypertrophy). As you age, you lose lean muscle mass without strength exercise and 1 - 1.6g protein per kg of bodyweight. Without protein your muscles you lose your muscle mass as you cannot get enough proteins. Also if you're in a caloric deficit, and you have the appropriate protein intake, you'll retain lean muscle tissue as your body starts to scavenge itself for resources.
>>518438121most animals are very efficient at making fat from sugarshumans are not very efficient at this process, called de novo lipogenesissugar causes insulin sensitivity, which is why fruit is great for type 1 diabetics. if they eat friut and starch all day then their blood sugar is steady, and they only need a small amount of insulinthe problem is that this woman did not eat starch, just fruit. she died from low body fat. there is a small amount of fat in most whole food starches like potatoes or rice that most of the world subsists on and lives on just fine. most of humanity has lived on a diet of 90% starch. we only need anout %5 of out calories to come from protein. it is only used for repair, not energy. fat and carbs are used for energy. there is also protein starvation, where people die from a high protein, low fat diet.
>>518442105>where people die from a high protein, low fat diet.med hybrid diet essential, lots of fatty fish, drizzle everything with high phenolic EVOO.
I stopped smoking and I'm getting fat
>>518438121>Speaking for /fit/Ugh>Speaking for /ck/Obese ugh
>>518438121Yeah snickers bars too are healthy, and the pain au chocolat too !
>>518442105>there is also protein starvation, where people die from a high protein, low fat diet.yep, rabbit starvation and other too-lean meat>you can die from hunger with a full stomach rare but might happen if you take it to the extremetl,dr: moderation
>>518440125she didn't die from low protein, she died from low body fat, which is much more harmful to a woman. as you pointed out, she already most likely had some sort of eating disorder anywaysthose ira guys that died from hunger strike, bobby sands et al, died not from low protein but from low body fat. before you go declaring this or that thing retarded, i would suggest you look into it a bit more. https://youtu.be/_KvyAylxBkQhttps://youtu.be/HjsAK_a-oLYmcdougall makes a great case that whole food starches are mostly nutritionally complete. above ground starches like wheat and rice need the addition of c and a vitamins. you can get your daily needs met by one or 2 broccoli florets. he also recommends against most supplements, as they overload receptors and disallow multiple forms of nutrients to be assimilated. all longitudinal studies show negative outcomes for vitamin supplementation.
>>518437743Tight like canvas stretched over a tent. Skin, bones and air.
>>518438121There are different kinds of sugar and they have different effects when consumed. For example simple table sugar is a mix of 1:1 glucose and fructose. Galactose is a sugar found in milk. Etc. HFCS, high fructose corn syrup, is 55-45 fructose instead of 50-50. Honey is about 1.1:1. Many fruits but not all will have high fructose ratios of 2-3:1. The difference is that in this case the fructose triggers a different response from your body especially when in higher proportion to glucose. It makes you want to eat more and not get full. Two theories about this, one is “bear theory” which is to say similar to a bear preparing to hibernate, in nature fresh fruit is a rarity and you should pack on as many easy calories as possible, therefore the body does not get “full” and lets you eat a lot and easily packs it in as extra stored energy for later aka fat. Other theory is, fruit is the part of a plant containing seeds, the plant generally wants the fruit to be ate (and seeds pooped elsewhere for dispersal), so making fruit in such a way that your target specie(s) will eat plenty of it is maximally beneficial - so a plant maybe biohacking in evolutionary terms. Similr ideas with honey and milk regarding driving growth of young that need insulin and other hormonal response to GROW. Hence GOMAD advice on fit for turboskinny skeletons (milk has protein AND sugar that triggers certain body response to add weight/grow).“Insulin spike” is too loose a term to really use if you want to understand this completely. If you want to avoid insulin spike, eat zero carbs… it’s normal to spike for a meal, it’s not normal to stay high for too long. That’s beetus.
>>518438121im tired of people demonizing fructose. When studies say to not have more than X grams of sugar per day, they mean ADDED sugars. Your body NEEDS sugar as fuel but we can't even store it as fat cuz lipogenesis SUCKS.
>>518436394Sikhs are fat sometimesand they're vegan I thinkmaybe you guys could just look up their weird cuisine
>>518441191>60lbs in 100 daysNah
>>518442278this is a really bad ideafish and oil are really bad for you. the oil moreso. free oils devoid of their natural casings like olive oil are highly toxic and damaging to the body. they also make your blood sludgy as the platelets stick together, making everything associated with circulation, like nutrient and oxygen delivery, slow down and become more inefficient. i used to think otherwise as i did keto etc for years, but added fats and fatty meats are really hell on your body and the effects are not felt until you hit midlife. the reason you see burger flags swear by keto is because they are the only country in the world i am aware of that still allows bromine in food. it damages the thyroid and takes up room where iodine should go. it's in most flour, you have to look for flour that specifically does not have it. it also offgasses from new cars, carpet, engineered wood furniture like in offices, and electronics. pic related is a bromine tonic they used to give underweight kids. >>518442301see if you can get a b12 injection. if not, get cyanocobalamin, the old school b12, not the methyl, it's all marketing horseshit. if you chew the tablet instead of just swallowing it, it will absorb much better due to the saliva.smoking lowers b12, but raises your metabolsim. so when you stop, you lose the boost and then fall farther than baseline because of low b12. if you want to try a cheap "crash diet" you could try the potato diet which has great results for tens of thousands of people. potatoes have everything except vitamin d (comes from the sun) and b12 (comes from bacteria). most of south america pre-columbus lived on potatoes and freeze dried them for winter. they retain almost all of their nutrients this way
>>518442664yes, it's to prove a point, and the point is that protein is not as important as even many vegans think it is. it's really funny to see forums with them obsessing over each and every discreet nutrient like you need to eat with a checklist. we know that human breast milk only has about 5% protein, the rest is sugar and fat. so even in the time of being an infant with all of that growth going on, the body does not need heroic doses of protein. we know that even white rice gives you about 7-8% protein by calorie. it's just our habit to centre our meals on a protein and have the starch be a side. you don't need fake meat and onions milk, you just need potatoes, rice, corn, etc.
>>518442105You sir may be one of the greatest retards I have encountered on this board.
>>518442978>Your body NEEDS sugar as fuel but we can't even store it as fatMakes you think, doesn't it? We do not need dietary sugar at all, because our bodies can burn fat for energy. Our bodies store excess energy as fat, because we do not need to consume sugar. We just need to be able to maintain blood sugar levels, which we can achieve perfectly fine with fat.
>>518444561why would you say this? anything specific? if i am so retarded it must be easy to point out. do you have an argument you would like me to consider?
>>518437743Not hardly. I screwed am anorexic girl once and it wasn't very enjoyable. She had no pelvic muscle tone and it was like fucking a limp wet rag.
>>518441695WAFFLES
>>518442105>most of humanity has lived on a diet of 90% starch. we only need anout %5 of out calories to come from protein.Historically 1/3 of our calories came from meat, 1/3 from fish. Humanity is a lot older than whatever overcrowded Indian hut village you emigrated out of.
>>518436394No way an adult woman can only weight 23 kilograms.
>>518441939He loved personal branding.
>>518436394they say the body is like 70% water. so about 16kg is water. the rest is bones and some carbon
>>518442978Fructose in fruit is fine, so long as you're not drinking juice - look at how many oranges it takes to make a glass of juice and then try and eat those in one sitting.
>>518444578not really and not indefinitelyon keto, you still need a certain amount of glucose for the brain. anyone who tells you the brain can run on ketones only is lying or just a broscience meathead. it simply isn't true. all of the research shows that weight lost on keto is mostly water weight followed by muscle loss. there is also fat loss but as a percentage most of the weight lost is usually muscle. this is because the body breaks down protein (muscle) and uses it to make sugar in the liver.an interesting fact from the civil rights movement was that protestors doing hunger strikes lost tons of body fat but almost no muscle when they added a small amount of sugar into their water in the form of juice or honey. this gave enough sugar that the brain could operate without breaking down muscle.
>>518444713The fact that you think that eating high-starch foods somehow saves you from dieing from 'low body fat'. That you believe that a 23kg woman died from 'low body fat' and not general malnutrition. That you believe that human dietary B12 comes from bacteria. (It's made by bacteria in the gut of animals and so comes from animals for the purpose of human nutrition)
>>518437743Surprised this wasn't a US flag desu.
>>518444930A keto diet has nothing to do with a hunger strike, retard. That you even compare the two shows how little your brain is capable of. If you meet your calorie goals on keto and eat enough fat, you'll be fine.
>>518444758this is not true. calling me indian doesn't make you right. last refuge of the prideful retard.you are saying that 2/3 of calories came from meat and fish? what possible citation could back this up?we know full well from analyzing the dna on teeth of old human remains that so called hunter gatherers ate mostly starch and only small amounts of animal foods. with some exceptions, natives in north america ate mostly starch. the three sisters were corn, beans and squash which are all starches. the natives were also very tall and well muscled, much more so than the europeans that came to conquer them. even today we see in the global south the majority of the world lives on a single starch source, and they do not have the health problems that almost everyone in the developed world gets.
>>518436394>Vegans still deal with nutrient deficiencies.Nope, not true.>Plant iron, zinc, omega-3s, and even protein are way less usable by the body.Complete bullshit.>Meat gives you everything in forms your body actually needs, no pills required.Human requirement for vitamin C says no.I've been vegan for over 20 years and I never dropped below 80kg (I'm 1.8m). Bitch was obviously anorexic which is remarkable nowadays, because usually body-horror schizos are trooning out instead.
>be me>eat animals>their chi fills my chakra reserves>am healthy, strong, happy
>>518444964whole food starches do have enough dietary fat, yes. >low nutritionfat is a nutrient. she died from a lack of this. same as the irish hunger strikers, as i explained.>>518445109yes, i know, i contrasted the two as they are opposite ideas. why are you pretending to not understand?and a real, medical ketogenic diet is almost 90% fat. like fed cream cheese 3x a day.
>>518438121I have personally done a pure meat + fruit diet and a pure meat diet. The meat + fruit diet made me much hungrier, it made me slowly gain weight (about 12 lbs over a year) and made it so I could eat more in a day before being full. I also was tired after meals (blood sugar crash) and performed worse in the gym and even injured myself while running (musculature glycation). I was also constipated badly a lot of the time, had bad sleep, and contracted food poisoning twice.I swapped to a meat only diet and all of the above symptoms are gone. Have been on it for half a year now. I lost 18lbs, I'm much less hungry, I get full way faster, I'm never constipated and I never get food poisoning. My perfomance in the gym stalled for a bit then improved by the 4th month. No injuries, no crashing after meals. Sleep like a log.>tl;dr my anecdote is yes, even fruit makes you unhealthy because all sugar bad
>>518436394You:>"Health benefits" makes it okay for us to murder animals and eat their bodies.Them: >"Health benefits" makes it okay for us to drink the blood of children.Cut from the same cloth.
>>518445450Watching those videos of clearly malnourished vegans while they're trying to explain that vegan is good for them, it's exactly like that meme.
>>518445334i've only been doing this for 4-5 months now and i can't believe it. i really had to wade through tons of disinfo and clear up a lot of misconceptions, but in the end it's pretty clear it's the best choice for health. i already lost 15 pounds and my arthritis pain is massively diminished. one big myth is the "complete protein" nonsense, where you have to mix and match foods to make so called complete proteins. it comes from one diet book, and the woman who wrote it later took it back. but too late, it stuck around.
>>518445229>even today global southModern diets are fucked. You evidently have no conception of what a hunter-gatherer diet looks like. In a world with a low population density animals and forage are plentiful. No need to grow starch rich crops.>you are saying that 2/3 of calories came from meat and fish? what possible citation could back this up?Plenty, if you bother to look. You look extremely stupid asking for citations for a diet that real life peoples still follow to this day. We even have nearly pure carnivores like the Innuit still running around. Also, basic logic, since humanity is a lot older than agriculture and has spread to regions where the growing periods of plants are rather short. Instinctually ignoring winter unironically points to you being Indian. Because white people have a deep rooted cultural awareness that vegetables, fruits and nuts all have seasons and are not available year-round.
>>518445643Vegans murder animals too, more actually. Every kale, goybean, chickpea, stringbean, quinoa, broccoli farm is a genocide on the local wildlife population with added agent orange in the form of nearly permanent soil destruction. The Amazon is being deforested for goybeans. Each vegan results in tens to hundreds of thousands of deaths of assorted species per year.Meanwhile I kill maybe 1 cow a year from my existence from a local farm that uses regenerative techniques and the cow eats only grass, and the cow helps create an ecosystem bringing life to the area and health to the soil.
>>518436394imagine the farts
>>518445469You didn't contrast shit. You pointed out similarities between keto and starvation, i.e. muscle loss. You outright said that ketosis and therefore a keto diet can not be maintained indefinitely because of a lack of sugar. Which is not true.I will stop engaging with your shit takes.
>>518436394Fucking leftists are retarded either eating everything in sight or nothing at allJust eat a normal amount of food and go for a walk every once and a while you retarded virtue signaling faggots
>>518445334Meat contains vitamin c.Good for you if you are one of the few people who can do well on a vegan diet. Most people can not due to their genetics.
>>518437937would, easy
>>518445450>wait till i post this, then those vegans will see how buff and cool i drew myselffirst of all those are not facts, that is all made upsecond, i love these pics that imply all one has to do to have le gym body is to eat meat. like the guy on the left got enough coq10 and *pop* the next morning he was swole. anyone with half a brain knows that you get that kind of body from exercising, not from just eating food. who is that young bodybuilder kid that just eats peanut butter sandwiches? is he all swole bc of a vegetarian diet, or because he works out all the time and probably does a shitload of steroids. btw all of these influencer guys like liver king and dr shawn baker do tons of steroids, diet is like the least important part. they could eat pine cones and look like that with enough steroids. and there are tons of homeless drug addicts where i live, and for some reason they are all shredded. they look like a synthesis of the 2 figures in your drawing really kek. if how your body looks is all that matters, maybe you should come live on the streets in northern ontario, use drugs and steal things.
>>518436597Anorexia is a mental disorder. Anorexia literally cannot perceive they have a problem. To them they look normal.
>>518446488I would imagine they think they look better than normal. They probably think they're looksmaxxing. Imagine what they think of the people around them. Yeah, we all make fun of fatties, but these people probably look at 10/10 fit girls and think "God, what a fucking hamplanet". Imagine how they see the actually obese people around them. Like gravity wells threatening to suck them in if they get too close to orbit.
>>518444578while you don't need dietary sugar you forget that they are often bundled with things like dietary fiber, which really helps in regulating the absorption of the former. Also, maintaining ketosis is extremely hard, and miserable.
>>518438121I literally just eat what I want and am always pretty fugin jacked with great cardio and around 15% body fat. Drink regularly too.All this diet shit is for weirdos.
>>518445643Vegans will always have the option of creating less harmful plant agriculture systems, or growing their own food at home.You will always have to murder animals to eat their bodies for your "health benefits".Well, if we're being precise, I guess you do have the options of 'lab grown' meat and animals that died of natural causes (or road kill).
>>518447165I own livestock, so I too can produce food at home.
>>518442278The so-called "med" diet was made up by a guy who just wanted people to stop eating saturated fat, for heart health. Only later was it corrupted by olive oil salesmen. In reality, studies show that canola oil is healthier. The good stuff in olives is mostly bound to fiber pulp which gets removed from oil.
>>518445973>You evidently have no conception of what a hunter-gatherer diet looks likeno uagain, we know what they ate from their teefusprevious ideas of a meat heavy diet come from bones excavated from dwelling sites. protip bones last longer than the remains of squash or corn cobs. >muh emskimozehttps://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2015nl/apr/150400.pdfthese are at the extremes of environment. their diet comes at great cost, even carnivore diet proponents say that it reduces life expectancy. i already mentioned that all of the natives of the americas lived on starches, and that the potatoes in particular were freeze dried and stored for winter, as were the corn, beans and squash. this is what most natives ate. you are taking the exceptions and trying to pass them off as the rule. >ignoring winter means non whiteit's below freezing where i live, as i speak. it's -3c. i am at the same latitude as paris, yet where i live is freezing. your winters in europe are a tropical paradise compared to north america. you are just determined to speak of things you don't understand. you are desperate to smear me instead of arguing with me. >>518446141>lying about me lyingwhy do you waste your time, my time and everyone else's with this low energy nonsense?>i will pout and reeok
>>518446279>Meat contains vitamin c.Even if you eat it raw, there's just not enough of it. You would need to drink raw blood as well, but then amount of other stuff (e.g. iron) would make you vomit before anything absorbs.>Most people can not due to their genetics.Nonsense. People around the world aren't that different genetically. All Europeans, Asians and Americans (including Indians) are descendants of just 150 individuals.People are omnivours, which means we can survive on anything and we dominated every environment on Earth because of it. Fact that all great civilizations grew on angriculture means people do exceptionally well eating plants (in comparison to meat eating Zulus or Eskimos).We developed ethics based on empathy and following this is what separates humans from subhumans. If someone causes torment for his own pleasure, he is subhuman and making some excuses about it is ridiculous.I could believe in some cases having absorption defects due to some illness, but I hear this "argument" all the time, from every lazy/stupid mf I met in last 2 decades. I don't believe it. I you can't survive on vegan diet in 21st century Europe, then obviously nature itself doesn't want you to live.
>>518447071it takes about 40 years to see the results of your blasé attitude fully manifest in a destroyed body. cancers for instance take a long time to grow. by the time a tumor is the same size as a period at the end of a sentence, it is already about 7 years old. that's why the vax cancers are so remarkable and called turbo cancers, because they should not form or grow so quickly
>>518436394>Gets to heaven on Meat Monday>It's like the super bowl people turning out in the streets for meat>YA'LL READY FOR THIS??? NBA music playing on loop with estatic crowd cheering every time the fountains start pouring cheeseburgers>Informed by Peter at the gate that vegan vednesdays arnt really as popular anymore since the w got invented
>>518437937WOULD
>>518447776Well I'm already 40 with no issues.Just don't eat junk food and you'll be ok.>muh alcohol People have been drinking since forever.
Veganism is only good for a short stint if you have health problems due to having the typical American diet of corn syrup, dyes, and other processed crap. Go vegan for 4-5 months (with some seafood cheat meals here and there), and your body will thank you for it. I went from high diabetes 2 to in the normal range in 6 months.
>>518448009>i eat whatever i want>don't eat junk foodgoalposts: moved
>>518443476Not hard at all.Eat less than 2k a day and you could lose 60lbs quite easily in 100 days. Only eat every other day, and 2k on the days you eat and that could be almost... ALMOST doubled.
>>518438751One serving
>>518441191It depends on how you eat it. If you order a burger from any fast food joint tell them no ketchup (eliminates the HFCS), don't use dipping sauces, only eat small fries, take at least one bun off the burger, drinks will always be ice water, and already you've significantly cut down on most of the bad stuff. Do this until you get to the level you want to be at
>>518448256Lol I don't want to eat junk food. I guess I just assume that's a given. Only niggers eat that, so yeah, I'll add the caveate that you should limit most processed foods or not eat them.Literally doesn't even cross my mind to eat skittles and soda to the point I don't consider them food.
>>518436394Just eat Quinoa, Kiwicha, and Spirulina for protein. The latter by dry weight has more protein than meat and is one of the most nutrient dense foods on the planet.Also I believe race plays a part in this, Europeans are the most to suffer when transitioning to veganism, compared to Native Americans and Africans who thrive on plant-based diets.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6oJA_xhTa8&t=1s
>>518436394>Vegans can take supplements, but that just proves the diet isn’t naturally complete.Further more, we keep discovering nutrients they lack.How many in this eating disorder sect know they need choline and trans-vaccenic acid or that creatine is also important for the brain, not just for muscles?
>>518441695>Yes, and keto in any form is totally safe and healthy.It unironically is, baltard.
>>518438773Randle cycle.
>>518442664>rabbit starvationCompletely made up bullshit, with zero attempts to prove it experimentally.How hard is it to feed a few dogs only rabbits for a couple of months and see what happens?
>>518438121IT'S THE RAW TILL 4 THAI FRUIT FESTIVALWE'RE RIGHT NOW AND THE BEST OF ALLTHERE'S SO MANY FRUIT BATS HERE TOOLOVIN' LIFE, LIVIN' ON FRUIT
>>518449047>surprising studyHow the fuck was that surprising to anyone ? meat offers all the neccesary aminoacids for mitosis in all the right quantities plus cholesterol, you get all the goodies to stay as young and healthy as possible. All those vegan idiots have to do is fix their gut microbiome and eat home made foods. imagine failing the food filter on this planet, that's like level 2 or 3.
>50 pound adult womenWhat in the actual fuck? How was this even possible?
>>518436454Letting ideology dictate your eating patterns and cutting out useful foodgroups. Some of these people can't be saved, turbo-normies who get one-shotted by fake and gay ideologies and trends which make them either insufferable or outight kill them.
>>518442978>im tired of people demonizing fructose.Because you're a cola-guzzling moron.>Your body NEEDS sugar as fuelNo, it does not. Even the brain prefers ketone bodies to glucose, contrary to what the other morons teach you in school.
>>518448841>Just eat Quinoa, Kiwicha, and Spirulina for protein.There are protein-packed fruits that grow in trees and can be eaten raw - these are called "nuts".Bitch was probably too deep in schizo philosophy though. Some consider eating seeds (also nuts) as plant's abortion or something.>Europeans are the most to suffer when transitioning to veganismEuropeans are literally who defined the term in opposition to other forms of vegetarianism. Christian orthodox (and even some catholics) who live in Eastern Europe have tradition of purely vegan lent. Even non-religious follow it because of health benefits, not despite of their health.
>>518449485It's possible but at what cost
>>518444930>on keto, you still need a certain amount of glucose for the brain. anyone who tells you the brain can run on ketones only is lying or just a broscience meathead. it simply isn't true.It is true, you fucking moron. Here's the brain preferring ketone bodies to glucose:"In humans, both acute and chronic increases in ketone body availability to the central nervous system cause massive changes in cerebral fuel metabolism. In healthy middle-aged subjects, an i.v. infusion of BHB caused approximately 14% decrease in cerebral glucose consumption while oxygen use was unchanged, suggesting that ketone bodies, even when supplied acutely, enter the brain and may be utilized immediately as an alternative fuel to glucose. Similar cerebral metabolic changes have also been demonstrated in young individuals, however, at lower infusion rates, and thus lower BHB concentrations, glucose uptake does not seem to be affected. Together, this suggests an acute cerebral glucose-sparing effect when ketone availability is high." - ["Effects of Ketone Bodies on Brain Metabolism and Function in Neurodegenerative Diseases" (2020)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7699472/)
>>518448841>Eating indio foodDisgustingThe inca peasant were feed that shit to keep them docile and compliant while the nobilty eat pently of Guinea pig and Llama
>>518445334>Human requirement for vitamin C says no.There's enough vitamin C in fresh meat. Scurvy appeared when they replaced livestock on ships with canned meat.>I've been vegan for over 20 yearsTell me about your "cheating", you lying bastard. Confess!
>>518446897>Also, maintaining ketosis is extremely hard, and miserable.How stupid are you, Pablo? It's not only easy to stop eating carbs (only a month to fully adapt) but you will feel the best you ever felt in your life, once your body is firing on all cylinders.Try it and see for yourself, you fat faggot!
>>518449863Inca*fed that*ate plenty*Getting your grammatical errors out of the way. Mate, everyone had cuys in their homes - they live off any vegetable scraps, and the Inca nobility ate Andean cereals.
>>518450197I like my pasta.
>>518449702now you are moving the goalposts it contradicts nothing that i said. so only ad hominem and goalpost moving from the keto boisa 14% decrease in glucose consumption is, by definition, not a 100% decrease in glucose consumption.
>>518437743>God, imagine the tighteness in that pussy.I think it would be more like fucking a mummytightness doesn't come to mind
>>518449944>There's enough vitamin C in fresh meatNope. Vitamin C does not accumulate in muscles (or anywhere in the body) and these trace amounts that you have in meat are wipe out during cooking anyway.>Scurvy appeared when they replaced livestock on ships with canned meat.Scurvy appeared when technology allowed people doing longer boat trips. It disappeared when they started taking frutis and vegetables as it was obvious solution.>Tell me about your "cheating", you lying bastard. Confess!During some lovely day in year 2004 I ate pizza with beef and I thought it had no sense to kill that cow when I try being decent man in every other aspect of my life. That pizza with beef was my last non-vegan meal.I married and wedding was vegan (for all 130 guests). I fathered some kids and they're vegan since inception. Now I'm 43, fatty and bald - like most Poles in my age. I get drunk every saturday. I shitpost on 4chan when nothing happens in work. Life is ok.
>>518449540Yes but the difference is nuts are not usually complete proteins like the foods I mentioned, especially Spirulina.Reread my post, I have no particular interest in who coined what terms, I simply highlighted who are the overall best responders to such diets.The Inca (and by extension Andeans) thrived on plant based diets, no bovine meat, no milk.Also a Christian monk can practically get away with any diet, they don't move much.
>>518436394Carnivore dieters are also crazy but they don't seem to be dying as fast.
>>518451612>HUH?? WHAT DID YOU SAY DOWN THERE??
>>518436394>WomenBasically don't have thoughts
>>518449494This. Fruitarians are just ideologues, they just want to live out the marxist crackpot theory of not exploiting living beings. Fruitarians are a specific kind of vegan retard, they ignore all medical knowledge so that they may prove the virtue of living in symbiosis or harmony with nature.I say let them collect their Darwin Award. A few less retards will serve as a warning to those thinking of doing such retarded shit.
>>518451745>Basically don't have thoughtsI thought so too before getting to know one, but you are wrong. The woman has penis envy and dreams of chimping out in order to prove to the other men that she isn't a spoiled physically weak half-man.A foid literally told me how she phantasizes of beating a guy to a pulp because he didn't know that she was an alkie. To be fair the guy is an asshole drunk, but they think about this shit for months and months. She still hasn't managed to forget about him.
>>518441695The Florida man is always fascinating.
>>518451506>Yes but the difference is nuts are not usually complete proteins like the foods I mentionedEvery plant has different ratio of aminoacids and you need exact proportions to create complete protein. However if you just eat more, you will eventually meet your requirements for all aminoacids. These lose aminos who won't become complete protein will be burn by you organism, like sugars or fats. No biggie.>I simply highlighted who are the overall best responders to such diets.And I'm telling you there's no base for assumption that Europeans do worse on plant diet than anyone else. Just like in Asia and Mesoamerica, our civilization grew on agriculture. People living around Baltic have higher toleration for lactose, but it doesn't make us plant-intolerant by any means.
>>518441695This would be about 750,000 caloriesSo, obviously, not true
>>518452567Right, not sure why you even brought up the topic of nuts in the first place but whatever.Again, I never said they do worse ON the diet and I never said any of you were plant-intolerant lol wtf. I said it's harsher for their bodies to transition into it compared to others because their diet has been meat and dairy heavy for millennia, call it a "withdrawal effect" that of course can be overcome.
>>518437743>>518444722This is what I've heard. Once someone gets super emaciated like that it's like a hotdog down a hallway
>>518451721Those guys are closer to keto diet, carnivore just eat meat, not even the good parts of meat.
>>518453332>Right, not sure why you even brought up the topic of nuts in the first place but whatever.Because nuts are go-to when it goes to proteins. Their aminoacid composition is usually very similar to that of legumes.You'll have to eat a fuck-tonne of other fruits to complete requirements for all essential aminoacids.>their diet has been meat and dairy heavy for millenniaIt actually wasn't. Meat and dairy was a treat and exception for the rule of eating grains for most of our history.Fact that livers of Europeans have metabolism that allows us to digest alcohols more efficiently, came from our history of eating more fresh (and sometimes rotten) fruits and vegetables in comparison to Asians (who are dying from simple hangover).
>>518454203the big guys have diet based on animal products the bottom have diet based on plantsthat was the difference when mongols invaded chinese and massacred them despite being outnumbered 100+ to 1 but by little guys
>>518436394So many stupid concepts related to diets, its clear from common sense and science it self that you need a varied diet for nutrients. Remember back when vegan tards would get B12 defficency and their mind broke down completely? Honestly I blame modern food since americans can eat even "healthy" foods and yet still be poisoned by some mystery chemical or the food being handled by some fecaloid.>>518436597I used to think certain disorders were just memes until I started lifting. Even though I had new muscles and was lifting far more than I ever did before every time I looked in the mirror all I saw were these lanky noodle arms. It wasn't until I got a group photo with some friends that I could see the comparison and my mind stopped disassociating, its freaky how it can do that.
>>518436394you're wrong, the best diet is whole-food plant-basedhttps://www.forksoverknives.com/success-stories/
>>518436394I call bs because modern fruits are full of sugar. That's just some bulimic broad
>>518438121The fruit thing is total bullshit, there is some other compound in fruit that counteracts the sugar.
>>518455524Wish they would do it again. Mongolia needs to free itself from commie china.
Let them starve, themselves.
>>518456346Try living on pure sugar and see how you look after a while lolThese people don't even have functional bowels to process anything. Calories in calories out is the rule for the most part but that breaks down when you don't have essential nutrients
>>518441763Malnutritioning a baby to death should be illegal.
Veganism is a religion, just like every other leftist ideology.Even though I fucking detest all organized religions, I think they're a necessary evil for giving people a fairly innocent outlet for their virtue signaling.In the past this cunt would have been going to the church 7 days a week to show how virtuous she is.
>>518436394Vegetarianism is based.Veganism is retarded.Fruitarianism is suicide.
>>518441791You can’t call other people retarded when you don’t know how to spell sector.
>>518437743Dry as a desert.Your body needs proper nutrients to produce sebaceous oils, mucus, vaginal lubricants.She is so malnourished, her pussy could not physically get wet enough for proper intercourse.If you're going to fuck bones, bring astroglide, I guess.
>>518436394animals that are primarily herbivores all have specialized digestive tracts for it. There are variations of precisely how it is designed but they all have at least one portion of their digestive system where plant matter is fermented. Without digestive fermentation the majority of nutrients in a plant are not useful. vegans are peak idiots. watch them get confronted with this eventually and come to the conclusion that they'll just eat fermented plants then and destroy their stomachs. lel
>>518437743She has absolutely no muscle mass. If anything it'd be an open void.
>>518449702>keto literally means you're eating pure protein and fat>muhhhh ketosis>what is glycogenesisketo literally only works because it prevents fat dumbfucks from eating too many empty calories from modern junk food, that's basically iteverything else is broscience
>>518437937Imagine her being 5'1" and you being 6'4".Now Imagine her giving you a hug while wearing a white button up shirt.PASSwash your face. I'd fuck you without makeup on.
There should be a name for the particular type of aspergers that causes someone to only eat one type of food. This is actually a deadly type of retardation and should be studied. I've met male spergs who do this with chicken, and another one who only eats eggs. There's also a whole subculture of fags who only drink söylent or one of its competitorsWhy is it so mentally taxing for some people to have a balanced diet? Why do they react by turning into a toddler and refusing to eat anything but their favorite thing?
>>518436394>23 kilogramsFat whale.
>>518436394Yeah, I'm sure you goyslop fucks that live off McDonalds and Taco Bell are flush with all the nutrients you need. This bitch was crazy, but you're a faggot.
>>518436394my toilet could have saved her
>>518436394looks more like she was trying to hide her eating disorder under the guise of whatever diet or religious practice she was calling it. anorexics are renowned for the deceptive ways.
>>518451443>I fathered some kids and they're vegan since inception.Child abuse.You people are monsters.
>>518454203>carnivore just eat meatAnd organs, and fish, and eggs, and butter, and cheese.>not even the good parts of meatYou're an idiot.
>>518460367>what is glycogenesisAn energetically expensive process. Ketone bodies are the preferred fuel in each and every tissue, you silly Ameritard.
>>518441695This faggot always comes out to rage about keto in any nutrition-related thread. Keto touched him in his no-no place when he was a child.
>>518441695he looks....satisfied.
>>518437743You could probably feel the hip bone if you hit it at an angle.
would
>>518436394>Kaminoan neck.
>>518467968was it just me or was she really hot?
>>518436394all the retarded meat goyslaves itt thinking ANYONE suffers from protein deficiency or choline deficiency or creatine deficiency or any kind of meat-based nutrient deficiency in 2025 looool. lets not forget cholesterol deficiency, the worlds greatest killer. vegan diets the worlds greatest killer. we actually need more cholesterol, more fat. THAT will solve heart disease and cancer FOR SURE goy. i can't stop laughing this must be natural selection at work. holy fuck. also if you actually believe she got to this level of anorexia by eating fruit you are legitimately retarded and don't know anything about the human body.
>>518436394I could have fixed her
>>518436394this isnt' veganism you tardsthis is retardation and mental illnessI'm a Jat from the Indian northlands and my people are the biggest cunts in the subcontinent. And all of us rarely eat meat and our diet is literally 2-3L of milk everydayyou don't need meat if you, like my Aryan ancestors, adopt lactovegetarianism
>>518469878This nigga needs some meat. Your brain is atrophied from a lack of animal protein and you aren't really capable of making informed decisions anymore. I hope you get some help brother.
>>518436394plants have virtually 0 nutrition compared to animal products, she even ate the most nutritious part of the plant, but still died, it's that badstop eating carbs and you'll be healthier not have digestive problems that make you fart rip massive wet farts
>>518438121You have to be retarded to believe this holy shit
>>518471110architect bros...
>>518471650>not have digestive problems that make you fart rip massive wet fartsid miss that though
>>518471551nah i've been vegan for like 6 years and haven't noticed a single negative consequence. i supplement vitamin b12 with all 3 cobalamins and take an algae-based omega-3 (i would be doing that anyway because it's superior to the animal kind), supplementing vitamins or minerals isn't necessary especially for things like iron which most people have too much of anyway due to heme iron intake and it's putting unnecessary strain on their liver lol. not that i care though, you should keep eating meat so you die faster or at least start balding in your 30s so i can have a good laugh. you meat people are ideologues and only committed to meat because it goes along with your le tradition faggotry anyway, you seethe at the idea of someone eating veggies because it hurts your fragile ego and contradicts your anachronistic worldview that looks on the past with rose-tinted glasses, and because you're afraid of things you don't understand.
>>518436454>ohh noo why did white woman kill herselfwho cares ?
>>518473185what a massive unadulteratedly retarded faggot lol. exactly the kind of angry vegan cultist that gives not eating meat a bad name. hahahaha
>>518446488No, they think they look fat, we have a friend who lived in japan for a while, she's obviously extremely skinny.She was a + size lingerie model there for a while. I don't think she ever was a normal weight even (always under).
>>518439069How much would would a wouldchuck chuck if a wouldchuck would chuck would?
>>518473514>No, they think they look fat,this.i knew one once. was always saying they felt fat, has a belly etc. its not quote as strange as when people think they should be the opposite sex but its not far off really. same kind of thing
>>518473459it's called being right you should try it sometime
>>518473185what a retarded cunthave a steak, have two. no one will tell baal or whichever made up fag you're doing it for
>>518473865shut up you boorish arrogant twat.
>>518438121>/fit/ and /ck/ are insistent that fruit makes you fatBecause they're all ketolards who don't understand the basics of nutrition and get all of their information from "influencers" who dropped out of community college.
>>518456052>It wasn't until I got a group photo with some friends that I could see the comparison and my mind stopped disassociating, its freaky how it can do that.Plato's cave is not a joke. And most of the time your own mind is doing all the shadows by itself.
>>518446598It is the same type of warped perception of self that all those plastic surgery addicted bogdanoff variants have. They see looks as something you max out with constant buffs, instead of something you balance in order to look like yourself at your best. Though anorexia also makes you obsess over food in an abnormal way, which makes it even worse. It's been known since the 1940s (Minnesota Starvation Experiment).
>>518436394If you're not eating feral, you're not getting everything your body actually needs.
>>518447708>People around the world aren't that different genetically.Except that they are. Think about lactose intolerance for example.
>>518474814I'd only eat raw if it's lab grown meat. I don't want parasites.
>>518474814she has worms ...
>>518473185Thanks for proving my point with that nonsense rant of yours. I'm not saying you need to eat nothing but meat. Just drink a glass of milk or eat a fish from time to time and I promise you your cognitive function will increase massively.
>>518474992>stockholm syndrome at it's besti will never understand why retards want to be in fear all the time
>>518474814Notice all the inflammation in her face
>>5184411912000 kcal of even slop filled McDonald's burgers is still "healthier" than 3000 kcal of "random slop" from the American supermarket (in fact it probably has at least more protein)
>>518436454It's an ideology that takes root in the mind and is beyond rationality to removeSo there's no longer an objective, a proof, perhaps at the start, but once in progress it becomes a goal in and of itselfIt's not unlike /pol/'s antisemitism it's da jooz on everything>>518437743Like a bag of raisins I think, Asians are where it's at for tightness
>>518473910>>518474000lol nice insubstantial replies saying nothing>>518475181yes i'm sure the mercury from fish would help my cognitive function lol. also there's literally no evidence that cow's milk does anything for your health and afaik the science leans slightly towards it being bad for you. but you'll cherry pick studies saying it cures cancer i'm sure. everybody already drinks milk and everybody's sick but the solution is more milk lmao. make it make sense.
>>518437743maybe after you're done i could have a turn
>>518474814the sausage fingers on that bitch lolpicrel is what a healthy hand looks like
>>518438121Turns out biological processes are more complex than /fit/ bros thoughtEvery single large scale study finds the same thing. Fruit + veg leads to longer lives. Meat and processed food leads to early death
>>518436394Eating fruit is not what causes this. That's text book anorexia. Fucking kikes and their operation mockingbird horseshit gotta keep pushing out that cattle rancher lobby propaganda.Mankind will be exterminated like the pest species it is.
>>518436394she didnt eat her beans
>>518480339posted more truth than you schizo
>>518436394>Meat gives you everything in forms your body actually needsExcept fiber, have fun dying prematurely
>>518436394Whites are not the same race as the rest of us melaniated folk. They are mutant genetics that need to consume dead flesh on the regular. We however can take well to a plant based diet because we are the original true beings of the earth even though I eat a balance of both meat and veggies because it works for me. White bitches like this are just lost vampires thinking they are something else.
>>518483770>correlation chartthat's not science btwfiber is useless for the body, goes right through you, it rots inside you which is why you have smelly fartsplus, assuming you believe in evolution, even people of thousands years ago would have only eaten animal productseating fiber wouldnt even make sense then, every single plant humans eat today is cultivated, brocolli didnt exist 100 years agohow did all those people survive without eating fiber?
>>518483241where? i just read all your posts and youre not even talking about diet... the fuck?
>>518436597severely anorexic woman will only eat one strawberry a day>strawberry diet kills woman !
Vegans and vegetarians are often overweight. She must have had an eating disorder
>>518482755Eating ONLY fruit is what caused this. Anorexia is why she ate only fruit.
>>518436394Haven't eaten meat or dairy since 1995.I've had superior health, strength and energy ever since.And I only put minimal effort into eating healthy.My primary focus is eating cheap.It's literally been like having a cheat code.Reading through this thread has been hilarious.
>>518488935there's fruititarians all over the globe dipshit you can't get this malnourished by eating fruits even if you ONLY eat fruit at best you'll just be kinda weird looking, not turn into a holocaust victim.
>>518436394You need to force-feed when they start becoming like this and mental ward until they start acting normal
>>518488935You're a propagandist retard. There are all kinds of fruits. Many high in fats and protein. Avocado is a fruit. Breadfruit is a fruit.
>>518438121Sugar is good for you starving yourself is bad eat more carbs no fat/protein to be powerful
>>518489115X
>>518480339You just continually prove how dumb you are. I don't care what kind of animal protein you eat, just get some in your diet. I suggested two kinds I thought you might find more palatable than steak, but fuck me I geuss. Good luck with life schizo, you're going to need it.
>>518489291they usually insert a feeding tube up the nose and then down into the stomach, then use a machine to slowly pump bags of nutrient goop into them over night while under close observation so they dont just pull the tube out or throw the goop back up. its pretty sad.
>The Recipe for Living Disease Free>We Want To LiveChick in OP was profoundly malnourished.
It’s what’s for dinner.
>>518490884it puts the steak in its mouth or it gets the hose again
>>518490884>A cattle rancher lobbyist coming to /pol/ and literally LITERALLY shitting out a corporate lobbying group taglineWe just need to get rid of 98% of the federal government. Only the parts that protect rich pedophiles like you.
>>518480339>yes i'm sure the mercury from fish would help my cognitive function lol.Considering how bad it is right now, it couldn't really hurt you.But there are plenty of fish that are low in mercury.All foods have problems, some worse than others. If you eat too many Brazil nuts you'll get sick because they contain toxic levels of selenium.
Average 25 year old white woman
>>518439069
>>518491422Ya okay Greg.
>>518458927NOW JUST WAIT A MINUTE
I admire their discipline to kill themselves their entire low energy struggle of a short life to adhere to their own moral code. Insane but at least she stayed true to her morals.
>>518491570>t. brownoid
>>518447708>Even if you eat [meat] raw, there's just not enough [vitamin c].Eat organ meat, dummy.
>>518447708>Fact that all great civilizations grew on angriculture means people do exceptionally well eating plants (in comparison to meat eating Zulus or EskimosVegan delusions. 'Great civilizations' were plaqued by poor health, shorter growth and worse teeth than their pasturalist and/or hunter-gatherer contemporaries. Besides, the parts of these civilizations that made them great, the elites and professional soldiers, had a steady access to a varied, oftentimes meat heavy diet. The plebs that toiled in the fields and couldn't afford much if any animal products had to regularly be replaced by capturing and resettling new peoples.
>>518436394Good riddance, idiot
>>518489291We don't need to save anyone but ourselvesDeath to all subhumans
>>518436394Stunning and brave
>>518436454She had no objective, she was a dead end and her own DNA sought to destroy her, jews and their manipulation machine helped her accelerate the process of recycling her.
>>518489230>>518489461I am not arguing that she didn't have an eating disorder. She obviously did not meet her caloric or nutrient needs. One piece of breadfruit a week is not going to do shit. What I am saying is that to become a fruitarian one has to have some sort of eating disorder. Yeah, if you are lucky and have the genetics for it, you might be able to make it work. If you source tons of different and fruits rare to your native diet from all over the world. I live in Germany and I would have an easier time finding Lembas bread to round out my diet than breadfruit. Carnivores at least have all nutrients readily available in their native animals. Can you imagine if they had to eat Asian fish, North American beavers and a type of Australian lizard just to round out their nutrients?
>>518436394>bitching about fad dietsreal conservative moron hours up in here
>>518494366You can't tell me I'm wrong lol
>>518436394>Polish womanDumb bitch probably thought that it would make her more EU-er.