The incompetent mutts blew up a Colombian boat thinking it was Venezuelas. If they can't even tell where a boat is coming from, how can they tell that it is carrying drugs?
Okay, anyway
>>518443582explain to me how small speed boats have anything at all to do with oil
>Columbian nigger says something>I’m supposed to believe him
>>518443743Some left wing conspiracy theory about invading Venezuela for its oil, most likely.
>>518443743so now the penalty for using a speed boat is being blown up without a trial?
>>518443582>ColombianWas also surely loaded with drugs.
>>518443773Huh... yeah. You're right. I questioned my great country for a second, but why would I believe a Columbian? That's silly.
>>518443743Because Trump is just using drug boats as an excuse for an attempt at regime change. Why do you think he's solely focusing on Venezuela, who's nowhere near the top country for cocaine, let alone all illicit drugs, rejected calls for collaboration with Maduro and recalled Grenell, the one guy in the admin who supports diplomacy and not war?>>518443773Trump is literally a pathological liar. Basically anybody, with the possible exception of his friend Netanyahu, is more trustworthy.
>>518443582Are the ships flying national flags? If they aren't flagged and are in international waters they should be assumed to be pirates or smugglers and sunk if they don't stop when ordered by a naval vessel
>>518443743>explain to me how small speed boats have anythingexplain to me who owns one and doesn't smuggle drugs.
>>518443582i dont care about dead spics
>>518443965sure, but it's still a drug boat that got blown up - not oil - you dumbass spics have a retard problem not understand order of logic????
>>518444072>if they don't stop when ordered by a naval vesselKek, there's literally been no orders given. They've just been blown up without any attempt of due process or Congressional authorization.
>>518443876nigger that's the whole world
>>518444163Retard, the blowing up of boats is the precursor to the ground invasion.
>>518443582That dude is obsessed with putting trannies as minister in his country, I will not believe a single word he says
>>518444163Was their proof there was drugs on the boat? Or we're you afraid more Latin cock would take your already whored out White women? You lost the last drug war, you will lose this one too. Hope the Jew cock was worth it.
>>518443582lol
>>518444302It's venezuela, why should I assume a poor fisherman can afford a high speed boat
>>518443582Columbia really want to enter the PVP server right now?
>>518444403That's like saying why should I care about some BBC loving Euro Whore who got stabbed to death by a violent migrant. You done care until it happens to you.
>>518443743They're being targeted to provoke a response from venezuela to justify an invasion.
>>518444403Bump
>>518444163Wait till they hear about these things called satellites and intel. Thats really going to blow their mind when they realise CIA and other foreign spooks all share info on smuggling OPs and real-time satellite feeds. Whilst the "NGOs" of foreign countries are data collection points. On a brighter note the 3rd cocaine/meth submarine has been found in Soloman Islands in the pacific. Looks like Australia might be getting a white Christmas after all
>>518444302they have to prove south american traffics drugs north? Really????? You fucking retards need to prove it wasn't, otherwise their story stands. Sure they are bullying you for oil, but it doesnt' LOOK THAT WAY and you just saying it DOESNT MEAN SHIT cause 50% of your GDP is from illegal drugsfucking retards
>>518443582>>518443965>NOooo, not my hecking narco dictator. Fun fact. The US has never attacked a democratic country.>inb4 muh CIAYawn.
>>518444238retard, you don't understand english and context. I never said it wasn't - im saying you can't say a small speed boat is related to oil just by itself - makes you look like the retarded spics you are
>>518444546>otherwise their story standsStory could say the boat was filled with ISIS fighters and you would still eat it up.
>>518444612i'm not eating anything up, they want all of south america to be vassals, but that was still just a small speed boat - so there's no logical connection to how that relates to oil. You aren't providing any logical points. You fucking spics are too stupid to parse the logic
>>518443582this commie faggot is straight up lying to garner support - gas all commie faggots and their kike handlers
>>518444580>Fun fact. The US has never attacked a democratic country.the definition of democratic country: whatever the fuck we say it is
>>518443582Isn't this the cunt that got his visa revoked for insisting riots here in the USA?
>>518444672maricon
>>518444678no, he got his visa removed for suggesting that the UN should stop Israel. get your facts straight.
>>518444580Even Trump's own intelligence told him there's nothing connecting Maduro to narcotics and this dual citizen mercs were literally released this year after he had productive meetings with Grenell, before Trump let Rubio and the other neocons dictate his foreign policy agenda.>>518444590Because the strikes are a precursor for a war for oil, retard. Sorry your IQ is too low to understand this.
>>518443582if it looks like this blow it up basically, I can't believe these retards are using narcolanchas from fucking Venezuela.
>>518443582>On September 27, 2025, the U.S. State Department announced it would revoke the visa for Colombian President Gustavo Petro. The decision came after Petro, who was in New York for the U.N. General Assembly, participated in a pro-Palestinian protest and urged U.S. soldiers to disobey orders from President Donald Trump.
>>518443582Very sad, few less spics to go to Spain
>>518444580That's only because Democracies are so easy for USA to control. Only an authoritarian regime has any defences against USA control.
>>518444801what actually happened is that at the UN General Assembly he proposed to form a UN army to stop Israel from committing genocide
>>518444174Pretty sure that would be a violation of the Navy's own rules of engagement to sink an unknown vessel without ordering it to stop first. Any whistleblowers to corroborate?
>>518444801Democrats voted for this
>>518445024You think Trump and Hegseth care about the law and avoiding war crimes?
>>518443876>sostrawman incoming
>>518445024rules of engagement were changed, there was an announcement and everything>>518445361>waar criiimeesno laws have been violatedtake a midol you histrionic bitch
>>518444801>>518444874And how would anything he says or does materially change anything? Did any of the Arab nations praise the brave support of this midget? Imagine not booting PeeWee Castro out of the country after he dare speak to US troops.
>>518443582image relateddrugs
>>518445468>no laws have been violatedMurdering people in international waters without due process is illegal, actually.
>>518445499>Arab nationswhy should anyone care what some US puppet says? every single one of these countries is controlled by jews
>>518445579Better get to arresting Trump then lmao.
>>518445579Sailing in international waters without colors is illegal, and under maritime law means you are a justified target, actually
>>518443582This is a Democrat hoax.
>>518444693You'll Never be a Gringo,bootlicker.>>518443582Petro talked shit about the jews and kicked them out of Colombia. then a Colombian boat gets attacked. Like clockwork I guess.
>>518443582And...O well be in the wrong spot doing suspect shit get wacked...but why ?Stupid
>>518445683>source: i made it up
>>518443839>Some left wing conspiracy theory about invading Venezuela for its oilThat's retarded, the US benefits more keeping Venezuela pumping oil for cheap keeping the global energy prices down. Last thing the US wants is to have to manage Venezuela's retarded economy.
>>518445683>Sailing in international waters without colors is illegalNo it isn't. >and under maritime law means you are a justified targetNo it doesn't. UNCLOS prohibits these sorts of attacks. And I know you're about to move the goalposts cause you don't really care about international law, so Trump's actions were unconstitutional in American context too, as Congress have not authorized his strikes/war either.
>>518445579did you report this murder?
>>518445579>Murdering people in international waters without due process is illegal, actuallyNot if you're USA or Israel lmaoBombs away!
>>518445770>source: we can do whatever the fuck we wantcry on the internet about it some more, maricon.
>>518445880>No it isn'tYou're considered a stateless vessel if you do.
>>518443582This alcoholic, woke communist and tranny lover is responsible along with Maduro for the migration of millions of spics to USA and Europe, they should be targeted with decapitation strikes.
>>518443876After watching by satellite getting loaded up with bricks of drugs.
>>518443582>have the same flag>complain when the gringo confuse you
>>518443582Have they recovered the bodies or have the sharks already gotten to them?
I am perfectly happy with US Military blowing to smithereens venezuela colombia cartel boats! Anyone brining drugs to kill oir youth is a terrorist, this is War.Venezuela and Colombia even Mexico can chose, either trade and be nice neighbors or die themselves for failing to control the shit spawn trying to kill oir Children.That being said, US Military needs to hang those on oir end here facilitating and colaborating with cartels destroying our Youth and Lands via drugs and other means, migration ect.No mercy, kill them all.
>>518443876Pools closed faggot. If it scares off one more cartel member from smuggling it will be worth it.
>>518443716This, the Colombian government has to consult the drug cartels before breathing. What are they going to do, send out boats full of cocaine dealers to get drone'd?
>>518444580Americans or "americans"?
>>518445967And while being a stateless vessel is obviously not encouraged, it isn't explicitly illegal, nor is it grounds for the sailors to be murderer, which actually is illegal.
>>518443582Gustavo Petro is gonna get couped hard. We need all chinese owned communist spics given the ol Los Pepe's treatment. First Colombia then Brazil then Venezuela. These brown pissants need to be reminded that we own them. They have a future as separate but equal foederati living in colonial protectorate that will be much safer and more prosperous than the third world shitholes they now enjoy. Otherwise it's gonna have to be the gas chamber
>global actionLmao who the fuck’s going to stop us? Enjoy some airbursting munitions on us, spics.
>>518446045the only pool that's closed is the red sea, after your incompetent navy had to flee from mountain sand niggers. but at least trump got a snuff film of blowing up 30 people in a village gathering to share with his moronic base, i guess.
>>518446086https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/stopping-drug-traffic-high-seas-jurisdiction-over-stateless-vessels
>>518444126/thread
>>518446086>which actually is illegalincorrect. when we do it it's legal because we say it is.
American retards are racist against spics and want to kill them no matter what. Same reason for invading Iraq, and same reason for the future invasion of Venezuela. Americans are retards with better guns and want to terrorize the world, none of this means Venezuela has a great government, but it's the easiest one target and use as a scapegoat to evade domestic issues and to ramp up the economy via war industry production and contracts. America thrives on war, and Americans are full of dangerous retards that need war to preoccupy themselves.
>>518446160>spanioid navy can’t stop daily beach landings by every shade of nigger rapefugeeslel
>>518446178>stopping-drug-traffic-high-seasThere's no proof they are drug traffickers, as there's no due process. Even if they are, murdering them extrajudicially is illegal.
>>518446234No, I don't want to pay for them, breed them, or be around them.
>>518446269>There's no proof they are drug traffickersThey have video of them loading drugs onto the boats.
>>518446234>it’s the easiest one target>Americans are full of dangerous retardsNice VPN, chink.
>>518446269the proof is that they're dead. that's all the proof we need. next time keep your drug boats out of our waters.
>>518444174>>518445024When the target has been declared a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) the gloves come off. Congress signed away their oversight of counterterrorism operations during Bush's first term, Obongo droned a US citizen overseas with no due process and nobody batted an eye. We have two decades of GWOT precedence to rely on here which is precisely why Orange Man named the cartels FTOs in the first place, because blowing up a dozen suspected terrorists without due process happens every day. You leftist retards are just gonna have to suck it up, and when the terrorist designation hits ANTIFA in earnest a lot of you are actually gonna go to prison for things you posted online just fyi. Fucking zoomers have no idea how much power the presidency accumulated during the GWOT
>>518443876yes. Were you not around when Obama ruled that he could assassinate americans without trial for saying bad things about the jews?
>>518446269>muh due process for drug smugglersKill yourself
>>518446160I'm sorry I couldn't see your post through the cloud of red mist. Make sure you stay the fuck out of the water Paco or you too can be glued back together in hell.
>>518445986This. Anyone in this thread with any ounce of sympathy or hesitation with regards to the speed boat strikes are either brown, communist, or both. The leaders of these countries are not nice people. They're basically Twitch streamers. Manipulative faggots shilling for dono bux (the 85 IQ retards in their country) while they do crack and fuck whores in their palatial mansions. They're Hunter Biden. They're Obama disciples. They're former CIA assets and likely have laundered money for Hamas.
>>518446320No they don't. They've also done at least four attacks, where at least one are Colombian civilians according to the leader. But again, as I said, it's illegal to kill them regardless.
>>518443582Right. Attacking a skiff is going to put a real dent in their oil trade. Why are colored monkeys so fucking stupid?
>>518446269>Even if they are, murdering them extrajudicially is illegal.No.
>>518446497Shut the fuck up, fecaloid nobody. You're lucky you're even allowed access to the internet.
>>518446497>But again, as I said, it's illegal to kill them regardless.No, they have recordings of the drug smuggling operations prior to launch. Plus they're designated terrorists. Fuck them.
>>518443965Because Venezuela has admitted to sending Tren De Aragua to the US. They took over a portion of a US city. It's really very simple.
>>518446497>it's illegal to kill themfound the retard
>>518446160Except there have been no attacks no commercial ships since.Why are you colored monkeys so fucking stupid?
So what now fighter jets can just shoot down aircraft without a trial?Is this america?
>>518446392>Congress signed away their oversight of counterterrorism operationsYou can't just arbitrarily call people terrorists. Random civilians in boats aren't terrorists just because Trump and Rubio claim so. And the Constitution still applies.>Obongo droned a US citizen overseas with no due process and nobody batted an eyeActually various civil rights groups called him out on it, as did many leftists and libertarians. Even Zion Don supporters like yourself pretended to care about it, until Zion murdered his 7 year old daughter, who was also a US citizen.
>>518446602>source: i am a clueless brainwashed mutt
>NOOOOO MY HECKIN DRUG BOAT NOOO!!!lmaoget fucked
>>518446415>>518446586>>518446540Not an argument.>>518446554>No, they have recordings of the drug smuggling operations prior to launchNo they don't.>Plus they're designated terroristsNot according to US law. Only according to Marco Rubio and Zion Don.>>518446557>Because Venezuela has admitted to sending Tren De Aragua to the USNo they haven't.
>>518446497Like someone else said itt, it's legal because we say it's legal. As long as it is legal by US law, and blowing up suspected terrorists without due process is, then no other law applies unless you can find someone with more aircraft carriers than us to enforce it.
>>518446682>Not an argumentretard thinks i'm arguing with it
>>518446611>And the Constitution still applies.>To Venezuelan terrorists outside the US.
>>518446602There were no attacks for months until Trump started bombing them in March for no reason, retard. They restarted their activities much stronger that after Zion Don cut and run upon realizing he was wasting billions and billions of dollars.
>>518446682>Not according to US lawhttps://www.state.gov/releases/2025/06/sanctioning-key-member-of-foreign-terrorist-organization-tren-de-aragua
>>518446682I’m not having a debate, you retarded bean nigger. They have no right to due process, and you’re a faggot.
>>518446850No you should capture them alive, sell them El Salvador. Call it the Caribbean triangle.
>>518446850he's complaining here but he hasn't even called the police to report these murders
>>518446772Ah yes, we have moved on to the lefty "just make shit up" phase. kys homo. Reality is not your friend.
>>518446740The Constitution mandates the President go before Congress before launching these strikes. You don't know anything about my country, so just stop replying, Zogbot retard.>>518446711>As long as it is legal by US lawIt isn't. Again, these strikes are flagrantly unconstitutional and that's the consensus among virtually all legal scholars in this country.>>518446728You can't argue because your IQ is in the double digits.
>>518446611>You can't just arbitrarily call people terroristsYes, actually, you can. Congress gave the president that ability decades ago. This is what lolbertarians were screeching about throughout the entirety of the 2000s you ignorant zoomer. Trump enjoys every counterterrorism authority which was enjoyed by George W. Bush and Barack Hussein Obongo. The unelected Biden junta even used counterterrorism authorities to persecute their political opponents. All precedent. We can basically do whatever we want and the only reason every Kamala voter isn't in solitary confinement right now is because Trump is too nice to do it. Think about that the next time you chant ORANGE MAN BAD during your two minutes of hate
>>518446647> source: pngkys, faggot.
>>518446682The secretary of state is who has the right to designate groups as terrorists you fucking clown. US law doesn't say shit about these people not being terrorists. Whatever bullshit authority you are trying to appeal to is coming straight out of your ass.
>>518446926>The Constitution mandates the President go before Congress before launching these strikesNo it doesn't. It's in international waters against a terrorist organization.
>>518443582How is DD doing nowadays?
>>518446611>And the Constitution still appliesDo you honestly believe anyone gives a shit about the constitution past 9/11?
>>518445579under US law, the US can prosecute its citizens for crimes like murder committed anywhere including international water.this is called universal jurisdiction.however, you skipped over the part where this would not satisfy the definition of murder in any US court, if indeed any civilian court had jurisdiction.they're not murders, you're just hysterical.>due processthey're not americansthey're smugglers at best but there are groups like hezbollah and tren de aragua that defy clean state/non-state distinctions and it's well settled under international law that countries may go to war with these groups given a legally sufficient causus belli. physical violation of our territorial sovereignty by drug gangs and state sponspored terrorists is one such causus belli. show me any international law, custom, treaty, or court decision proving the somali piracy campaign or the last 5 mexican drugs wars the US led or participated in were illegal. you can't. you're just making stuff up like social media taught you. tHaT'S a WaRcRiMe (in all seriousness ur spreading major disinfo bro)
>>518446926did you call the police about these alleged murders?
>>518444580And America also has never changed any country for the better. Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya are all still shitholes.
>>518447098>And America also has never changed any country for the betterSouth Korea, and Japan spring to mind.>Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya are all still shitholes.Because they're Islamic shitholes.
>>518445745Please kill yourself you insufferable faggot Petro is literally a guerilla leader nothing he says matters this is the kind of involvement these cocksucking nigger dictators of the south always spit on public announcements. Kill them all
>>518446802>posts an underling of Marco Rubionice try, homo>>518446850They do under international law. >>518446908What am I making up, retard?>>518446936>Yes, actually, you can. Congress gave the president that ability decades agoNope. Civilians in international waters have a right to due process. Just murdering them and calling them terrorists to justify it doesn't fly.
>>518445880>UNCLOShttps://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/unclos_e.pdfUNCLOS explicitly mandates cooperation against piracy, drug trafficking, other forms of smuggling, and terrorism. by course of practice, that cooperation usually involves death from above.also, the US is not a party to UNCLOS.admit you were ignorant or double down and expose yourself.
>>518447236>under international lawWhich international law.
>>518446493based burger knower.
>>518447236>international lawdid you call the international police? has anyone been arrested for the murders?
>>518446963>The secretary of state is who has the right to designate groups as terrorists you fucking clownWhat part of there's no proof they're terrorists because they're civilians who were murdered without due process don't you understand, retard?>US law doesn't say shit about these people not being terroristsIt absolutely does. In order to justify violence against them, Trump must seek authority from Congress.>>518446970It does, under Article 2. And there's no proof they are terrorists and not civilians. >>518447002Trump supporters don't, but most ordinary people do.
>>518443582Oh no, blew up a Colombian drug boat instead of a Venezuelan drug boat.
>>518446926>It isn't.Until Congress repeals the 2001 AUMF, it is. Also the Secretary of State has sole legal authority to designate FTOs. If you think they're unconstitutional then go to the SCOTUS with it. Until then, this is how the US government has operated since 2001 and Trump is absolutely right to use every weapon left at his disposal by past presidents and past congresses. More narcoterrorists will be blown up without due process. More illegals will be deported without due process. That's what I and 77 million other Americans voted for. You lost. Elections have consequences
>>518443582.This guy is false-flagging.
>>518443582>nooooooooooooooooo my cocaine moniesfuck off
>>518447236You know who doesn't have a right to due process in international waters? Pirates and terrorists. Do you know who has the authority to deem a group a terrorist organization? The secretary of state. Do you know who approved the president's cabinet? Fucking congress. Now stfu and accept that you have to power or ability to claim this is outside the authority of the executive branch.
>>51844716>Japan A castrated post-war wreck that is dying of the liberalism and feminism that ZOG imposed on it, a real improvement. All so China could be saved for...Mao.>South Korea Okay maybe American improved ONE country, only by virtue of literally every other alternative being truly horrible. It still doesn't make up for ruining Europe, installing Israel, or destabilizing the middle east.
>>518447236marco rubio is the secretary of state>they do [have due process] under international lawthere's no way you actually believe due process is derived from international law
>>518447349Trump supporters are ordinary people, and they don't give a shit. And even if they did a shit the people who matter doesn't care.
>>518447349>under Article 2Of the UN? Of UNCLOS? Of UNCLOS, the agreement the USA isn't a party of?
>>518443582>NOO THEY'RE BOMBING OUR DRUG BOATS, NOT THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE INDISTINGUISHABLE Ok. I don't care. Why should I
>>518447236We reject "international law" unequivocally and unilaterally. Checkmate, atheists. The only international law is the sword. Or the tomahawk, if you will
>>518447325>did you call the international police?"hello? yes we're very busy, what did you need citizen?"
>>518447496Oh boo hoo. Wah Japan is so fucking hirrible, the girls are like mean and the economy is fucked.
>>518447032>under US law, the US can prosecute its citizens for crimes like murder committed anywhere including international water.America can even prosecute non-citizens, so long as we have a warrant. However, you can not just extrajudicially murder them, especially when there's no proof these people even committed a crime.>well settled under international law that countries may go to war with these groups given a legally sufficient causus belliNo it isn't. Any war requires approval from the UNSC. Again, you're going to dismiss that because you don't actually care about international law, but in an American context, a declaration of war or these strikes, have to be authorized by Congress, which they weren't.>show me any international lawThere was no international law prior to the League of Nations/UN, retard.
>>518443582Please dont tell me you trust the Columbian president as anything other than a dog being commanded by his masters to denounce Trump...The cartels and drug trade OWN ALL OF THESE COUNTRIES. He is required to make this gesture on the world stage to prevent his cappa from being detated.
>>518447652>However, you can not just extrajudicially murder themYou can. The precedent has been set for decades.
>>518447349This isn't up to you you fucking moron, it's up to the secretary of state. He is the authority. This is clearly laid out in the chain of command and being performed by an individual approved by congress. There is no higher authority for you to fellate to get your way. This is how the process fucking works.
>>518447162south korea and japan are suffering from a demographic collapse thanks to their westernization, so no.
>>518443876if the usa says it will begin killing left handed people you better start using your fucking right hand, spaniard
>>518447349article 100 mandates blowing up piratesit's illegal under international law to not blow up piratestoo bad the US still isn't a party to UNCLOS cause it sounds fucking based the more I read. under aritcle 120 you're legally obligated to protect marine mammals. with deadly force, if necessary. fucking UNCLOS. mr. trump, get on this please, thank you for your attention to this matter! the nips have murdered their last dolphin.
>>518443582Has any evidence been presented for any of the boats trump has blown up?
>>518447719>you can not just extrajudicially murder themwe do it all the time. it's not like anyone can stop us.
>>518447750So is China and that's not because of Westernization. It's just what happens when you industrialize.
>>518447652>you can not just extrajudicially murder themgood thing this isn't a criminal mattermight as well call an uneventful sunday bbq an act of arson, it's just inaccurate
>>5184476522001 UAMF my dude, unilateral blanket authorization for, ahem, "kinetic actions" as Obama liked to say, targeting suspected members of any FTO from any nation. No congressional declaration of war required according to the legislation Congress passed and Bush signed into law. Overturn that and then you might have a legitimate complained, but the president is still authorized to order lethal force against foreign invaders, bandits, or pirates of unknown origin when they violate our borders or waters without a formal declaration of war as an act of national self defense so EVEN WITHOUT THE AUMF you still don't have much legal ground to stand on
>>518443582All he has to do is stop shipping cocaine to the USA.That's it.The west will fall apart without it.>>518445311Bullshit.American politicians overwhelmingly support the jews to experiment of whites in their country.
>>518443582bombing commies is based>bbb-b-but the un the ummah the laaaw!kys troon
>>518447818>evidencewhat kind of fucking fantasy world are you living in? we don't need evidence. we do what we want because we can. it's not like romania or any other third world shithole is going to stop us.
It's threads like these that makes me feel happy when there is news of some nigger brutally murdering American "whites"
>>518446647Stay away from israel and no one gets hurt.A simple thing to do really.
>noooooo u didn't reveal exactly who was involved in determining what was on the boat or how you made sure it was that boat >clearly that means you choose one at random to blow up>the government has always been forthcoming about its intelligence sources during and immediately after military and anti-cartel operations >this is new!
>>518443743>Venezuela has large ass oil reserves >bomb Venezuelan vessels until a reaction happens>us has free pass to invade>new installed government sells oil to America for the cheapIts pretty easy to see also we should invade Venezuela to get rid of Maduro
>>518447818It's like the opposite of a catch 22. They were blown up because they're drug runners and that is proof that they are drug runners.
>>518447987you eat cow shit and everyone hates you
Be mindful that these faggotrocius retards think international law is real law and not a virtue signaling tool.To all the commies and narco excusers i recommend that you hold your breath for 30 minutes
>>518447239>UNCLOS explicitly mandates cooperation against piracy, drug trafficking, other forms of smuggling, and terrorism.And there is no evidence any of these ships were engaged in any of that. Even if they were, the punishment is arrest, not murder.>by course of practice, that cooperation usually involves death from above.You're literally just making shit up.>also, the US is not a party to UNCLOS.I explicitly mentioned that, and your inevitable pivot, you fucking retard.>>518447279UNCLOS.>>518447368>Until Congress repeals the 2001 AUMFEven with that law, the president is required to go to Congress. It didn't supersede the Constitution, retard.>>518447492>You know who doesn't have a right to due process in international waters? Pirates and terroristsNot true at all. International law still applies to both groups.>The secretary of stateThe United States' Secretary of State is not the head of international waters, you fucking clown.>>518447514>marco rubio is the secretary of stateYou retards have such low IQs. I'm not arguing whether TDS are terrorists are not, I'm arguing that there's no proof the people murdered were members, because there isn't. Just because Rubio, who has lied about virtually everything in his career and his own life, (he lied that his parents fled Castro) claims they were doesn't make it true.>there's no way you actually believe due process is derived from international lawInternational Law does require due process, retard. Just fuck off, you fucking simpleton.
>>518447652>>well settled under international law that countries may go to war with these groups given a legally sufficient causus belli>No it isn't. Any war requires approval from the UNSC. Again, you're going to dismiss that because you don't actually care about international law, but in an American context, a declaration of war or these strikes, have to be authorized by Congress, which they weren't.you're conflating multiple topics anon.the existence of a sufficient war power is a domestic law issue.the fact that we are authorized to do war stuff to groups like tren de aragua is an international legal issue. the bodies that enforce the prohibition of force in the UN charter (j/k there are none, but if there were any) don't actually care whether the war was duly authorized under domestic law.you're going to dismiss that because you don't actually care about international law.>There was no international law prior to the League of Nations/UNthat's incorrectthe US supreme court recognizes english and french treaties going back 800 years as the origin of modern international law. go ahead and ask me about that if you're interested.to clarify the point of debate here: there is no international law, custom, treaty, or court decision (the typical sources of international law) standing for your proposition that the US is committing war crimes in the south pacific.
>>518447959In the past, the US at least tried to present some fake bullshit evidenceIt feels like there's no effort in this shit anymoreAll these recent color revolutions in Asia are even using the same fucking anime flagHave some pride in your work bros
>>518443942Oops you went for sarcasm but didn’t actually explain why anyone should believe him
>>518448105Based niggers are slaughtering judeomutts, and that is a good thing.
>>518447368>without due processthat is incorrect brother, they are getting every bit of legal process which is due to themwhich is to say none desu
>>518448083I'm starting to miss the days when we were at least pretending that there was some accountability
>boats are getting droned>They still try to comeUmm.
>>518443582Colombian, Venezuelan, what's the difference?
>>518448128>UNCLOSThe US isn't part of UNCLOS.
>>518448151>It feels like there's no effort in this shit anymorethere isn't. we don't give a fuck. you're welcome.
>>518448128>And there is no evidence any of these ships were engaged in any of thatwell that's just a liethe US secretary of state says so, that is "evidence"perhaps you are conflating "evidence" with "absolute proof that I personally find convincing" which is a tiresome tactic and makes you look silly.>Even if they were, the punishment is arrestyou made that up, liart. expert on UNCLOSUNCLOS signatories do it all the time, emulating based non-UNCLOS signatories who also do it all the time like america and, presumably to utter surprise, venezuelahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_the_United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Law_of_the_Sea>not murder.you are hysterical, take a midol and try to stop abusing words.if your beliefs can't withstand accurate discussion they shouldn't be your beliefs.we have killed pirates and drug smugglers. it's not murder for legal reasons that are apparently beyond your comprehension (you just keep repeating it instead of asking questions). we've done it for centuries and the british navy did it before us. I keep telling you this but you find it inconvenient so you deny facts (first stage of grief).
>>518448409I feel the same way about every Scandinavian country.
>>518448128Shooting to stop an ongoing or imminent terrorist attack or when engaging enemy combatants during a lawful armed conflict. These bastards are part of an organization that is actively fighting within US borders. They are enemy combatants and we can legally blow them to hell.
>>518448128>International Law does require due processdo you have a learning disability?I just taught you otherwise not 5 minutes ago
>>518448221everyone hates you
>>518447527They aren't. They're much dumber than ordinary people.>>518447531Of the Constitution, you fucking dunderhead.>>518447719You can't. It's illegal both under international law and the Constitution. >>518447731Dumb faggot retard, just because Rubio claims civilians are members of an organization he deems to be a terrorist organization doesn't mean that they were. >This is clearly laid out in the chain of command and being performed by an individual approved by congressYou can't justify your retardation by Congress, when for these acts to be legal in an American context, they would have had to notify Congress.>>518447759>it's illegal under international law to not blow up piratesRepression =/= murder
>>518447818If you have the patience to read the thread, the answer is no.>>518447888>good thing this isn't a criminal matterYou were the one who likened it to a criminal matter, idiot.>>518447914It doesn't not supersede the Constitution, which requires notification of Congress and Congressional approval of war, which the Trump administration is already treating this as though it is.>but the president is still authorized to order lethal force against foreign invaders, bandits, or pirates of unknown origin when they violate our borders or watersHe actually isn't and these people were killed in international waters, nowhere near the US.>you still don't have much legal ground to stand onYou don't, retard, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Again, virtually every legal scholar, regardless of party affiliation, has killed these actions illegal.
>>518448558Do we even have to doubt he hoards chromosomes like funko pops?
>>518448151it can only backfirewhen the proof is "the secretary of state said so," the counter viewpoint is limited to a sentence or two max>lol u trust [rubio clinton kerry condi rice] dumbass
>>518448735>Repression =/= murderexactlyyou are so close to getting itI believe in you anon
>>518448128>The United States' Secretary of State is not the head of international waters, you fucking clownDumbass the secretary of state is who has the authority to deem any group anywhere a terrorist organization. There isn't some faggot you can go run to to get a different opinion. Your ridiculous cope can not get around the basic reality that that person alone can make the call and using whatever the fuck criteria they want. You're just wrong. We've deemed these adults terrorists, they are actively engaging in combat as an organization within our borders, they are legally fair game from any perspective that matters or has any ability to do something about it. No amount of you squealing is going to change US or international law.
>>518448735>Of the ConstitutionArticle 2 of US constitution is what you retard?
>>518448765>You were the one who likened it to a criminal matter, idiot.you are actually fucking retardedyou keep incorrectly linking it to a criminal matter, by incorrectly calling it "murder"which is like calling the fire department's controlled burn "arson"it's a categorical error
>>518448765 We don't need to declare war to kill terrorists, the US hasn't officially declared war in decades and we've been killing terrorists for decades. Stop being fucking retarded when you already know you're this cooked.
>>518443582Colombian cocaine is world famous. Whatever the reason for blowing it up, it was justified.
>>518445361Are you saying no one in the Navy cares, they're all just slaves of Hegseth?
>>518443582Why was that boat there in the first place?
>>518445880Lol uncles don’t prohibit shit
>>518448435International law applies regardless of whether the United States follows it or not, RETARD!>>518448130>you're conflating multiple topics anon.I'm not. You just don't know what you're talking about. Just because America believes it is above international law does not mean that international law doesn't apply in international waters.>the fact that we are authorized to do war stuff to groups like tren de araguaAgain, we didn't even have domestic approval, as Trump has failed to notify Congress or have war powers granted to him.>the US supreme courtWe're discussing international law, not American law. And no, the Supreme Court did not recognize British or French laws as something we were behold to, moron.>there is no international lawMurdering people without trial in international waters is a violation of UNCLOS. Stop embarrassing yourself.>>518448435I know, retard. That doesn't mean international law doesn't apply just because America doesn't recognize it. Do you believe Islamic terrorists are acting within the purview of the law because they reject international law too?>>518448479>the US secretary of state saysA documented liar claiming something without evidence is not evidence, retard.>you made that up, liarIt's not made up. Repression does not mean killing. >we have killed pirates and drug smugglersYou have no proof of this, which you acknowledge.>we've done it for centuries and the british navy did it before usAnd people have murdered, robbed and raped since the beginning of time. It doesn't make it legal, you fucking dunderhead
>>518443942Petro is:>A """""""""former""""""""" terrorist>in bed with all LATAM left>eyeing out its leadership once Maduro is out>on a election year>know drug addict>know tranny fucker>probably has a scat fetsih
>>518448735Fucking moron, the US is not being ruled by the international law and this is not a war but a small military operation, it doesn't need Congress and is not unconstitutional. This is INSANE how brainroted anons or outright Russian bots want to defend brown communist narcostate from the just force. No, the problem with neocons was not the "wars" or "regime change" it was that they were jewish librards
>>518449369>International law applies regardless of whether the United States follows it or not, RETARD!No it actually doesn't
>>518448049nobody can respond to this because there's an ocean of footage and documentation about any given government's refusal to disclose sources and methods, especially in relation to ongoing organized crime
>>518449369>International law applies regardless of whether the United States follows it or notIt literally doesn't you retard. That's why the US didn't sign.
>>518446160Red Sea is quiet now, Ahmed.
>>518448535>Shooting to stop an ongoing or imminent terrorist attack or when engaging enemy combatants during a lawful armed conflictThere was no active combat. They were killed without warning at sea.>These bastards are part of an organization that is actively fighting within US bordersThere is no proof of that.>>518448558You didn't do shit, retard.>>518448998>Dumbass the secretary of state is who has the authority to deem any group anywhere a terrorist organizationThat isn't the argument, retard. Just because he can designate groups terrorists organizations doesn't mean he can designate random people terrorists without evidence and have them executed.>No amount of you squealing is going to change US or international law.Again, there's a clear consensus among the legal community these attacks were illegal. It's you squealing, not me, fatty pig.>>518449006Article 2 requires the President can only launch these attacks after approval of Congress, retard.>>518449055You may be the dumbest idiot on here. You directly compared it to a crime by talking about prosecutions. I'm just giving a description of the action.
>>518449369>international lawthere's literally no such thingnever wasyap about the EU and UN and try and gaslight as much as you wantthere is no such thing as an international lawand dead fent dealers is a good thing for the world no matter what flavor of shit they are
>>518448562can't you at least try to make your copes sound plausible? nobody hates NZ, certainly not more than they hate you amerimutts.
>>518449369The Three Legal CriteriaFor a group to be designated an Foreign terrorist organization, the Secretary of State must find all three of these elements are met:The organization is foreign — it must be based outside the United States.It engages in terrorist activity or terrorism, or retains the capability and intent to do so.“Terrorist activity” is defined in 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B) and includes hijacking, hostage-taking, assassinations, bombings, etc.The terrorist activity threatens the security of U.S. nationals or the national security of the United States — which includes national defense, foreign relations, or the economy.This group is actively taking fucking hostages, there isn't an iota of wiggle room here for you to claim its unlawful to call tran de aragua a terrorist organization you deluded faggot. The man with the authority to do so has made the call and we are now rightfully killing these bastards. Your cope is fucking pathetic.
>>518449746>Article 2 requires the President can only launch these attacks after approval of CongressNo it doesn't. Killing smugglers isn't an act of war and the limited use of military strikes against terrorists without congressional approval has been a provisional power since Bush Jr.
>>518449369>>you're conflating multiple topics anon.>You just don't know what you're talking about.pathetic gaslighting attempt failed>Just because America believes it is above international lawwe don'tI can cite the case if you wantas you already conceded, these strikes did not violate any international law.remember, I asked you to name the source of international law and tried to help you by naming some, but you could not.>does not mean that international law doesn't apply in international waters.nobody said otherwise, retard>>the fact that we are authorized to do war stuff to groups like tren de aragua>Again, we didn't even have domestic approval,domestic approval does not factor into whether we have violated any international lawsI just explained this, in the post you're replying to, so you must have some kind of learning disability>We're discussing international law, not American law. And no, the Supreme Court did not recognize British or French laws as something we were behold to, moron.that's incorrectI can cite the case if you wantfact is you're not interested in international law so you will forgo every opportunity to learn something about it, even as you impotently wield it to defend terrorists with no rights.>Murdering people without trial in international waters is a violation of UNCLOS.not murder, as you conceded (you had no rebuttal)also, UNCLOS actually MANDATES bloody explosive ultraviolence against pirates, smugglers, and terrorists.also, the US isn't a party to UNCLOS.I already taught you all of these facts. liar or just severe learning disability?
>>518449746>There was no active combat. They were killed without warning at sea.Nigger they are apart of an organization that is engaging in those activists within the US fucking daily. Anyone carrying water for these faggots is a terrorist by extension. It doesn't matter if they weren't shooting themselves the other members of there organization are actively harming US citizens and interests. That's all that's necessary to start shooting at anyone working with them in international waters.
>>518446090okay Fgt. Hernandez keep us posted.Don't forget to shave, beardo!
>>518449122>We don't need to declare war to kill terroristsThere's no proof they are the terrorists, and even if they were, Trump is at the very least required to notify Congress, something he did not do. >the US hasn't officially declared war in decadesBush actually had Congressional authorization for his wars, but regardless, the Constitution is not to be violated just because somebody else violated it.
>>518449369>The Sec of State claiming something is not evidence, retard.of course it is. you're conflating "evidence" with "absolute proof that I personally find convincing" which is a tiresome tactic and makes you look silly.>It's not made up. Repression does not mean killing.I already refered to you to six prior conflicts to prove that repression is generally loud and explosive in nature. what you wish to be the law is the not the law in this case.>>we have killed pirates and drug smugglers>You have no proof of this, which you acknowledge.what a strange lieI can prove it all day, the US has been killing (not murdering) pirates since May 10 1801 you ignorant retard>>we've done it for centuries and the british navy did it before us>And people have murdered, robbed and raped since the beginning of time. It doesn't make it legalthe difference is we've done it under color of law, for centurieswhich tautologically makes it legalnot sure if you had a point there, way to end on a weak note
>>518449746That isn't the argument, retard. Just because he can designate groups terrorists organizations doesn't mean he can designate random people terrorists without evidence and have them executed.Video of them loading up their boat with cartel narcotics is the evidence you fucking snake.
>>518449746>You didn't do shitI taught you that due process does not derive from international law>retardno u>I'm just giving a description of the action.an incorrect oneyou called a lawful killing a murdernow you know that that was incorrect>You directly compared it to a crimeno that was youyou keep incorrectly linking it to a criminal matter, by incorrectly calling it "murder"which is like calling the fire department's controlled burn "arson"it's a categorical error
>>518450093>actively harming US citizens>Foreign AND domesticwe never see that energy applied to the corporate kike overlords or their pig golems so whatever you say Cpl. Ramirez
>>518450237>Foreign AND domesticAmerican citizens can physically move. It's rare, and slow. But they do.
>>518443582It was just matter of time when muricans sink some totally innocent civilians. When you shoot first and then find out who you shot result is this.
>>518450237the US prosecutes between 100 and 300 corporations per yearthe states prosecute thousands of them
>>518450119 Anyone filling a high speed boat to capacity with drugs on video has signed their own death warrant and is working with the cartels that have been labeled terrorists. No one gives a single shit if that's not good enough for you. Anyone with sense is happy they're dead any the only people delusional enough to argue about it reject the authority of the very offices charged with doing the job. You are a clown and are having a bitch fit while standing in quicksand.
>>518450119>There's no proof they are the terroriststhat you are aware of, because governments generally do not reveal sources and methods of intelligence gatheringjust because they did not send you personally a certified mail packet with folders of information does not mean they just chose someone at random
>>518449256If they don't follow orders, they will be punished.>>518449364It does.>>518449518>Fucking moron, the US is not being ruled by the international lawAmerica is required to follow it, regardless of whether we recognize it or not.>this is not a war but a small military operationThis is deliberate obfuscation to carry out unconstitutional actions, but regardless, Trump still needs to notify Congress.>it doesn't need Congress and is not unconstitutionalWrong x2.>communist narcostateMaduro isn't a communist and the intelligence community already debunked Trump's lies that he has anything to do with narcotics.>>518449598>>518449684It absolutely does, retards. And nice dodging of the question, fag.
>>518443839>Some left wing conspiracy theory about invading Venezuela for its oil, most likely.Sure, left-wing conspiracy.
>>518449822There is established international law per the UN. Just because a country doesn't recognize it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.>and dead fent dealersNo proof they were drug dealers period, but fentanyl does not come from Venezuela. It shows how much of an ignorant moron you are.>>518449883I'm going to try one last time, retard. I am not saying Rubio can not designate foreign drug traffickers terrorists. He can. I am saying he can not designate random civilians terrorists without any proof and have them extrajudicially murdered.>No it doesn'tIt does.>Killing smugglers isn't an act of war and the limited use of military strikes against terrorists without congressional approval has been a provisional power since Bush Jr.Two separate topics. He needs to notify Congress of the strikes, even if he doesn't believe we are at war. However, the administration has all but said we actually are at war, which does require proper authorization.>>518450088>I can cite the case if you wantCite where the UN said America was above international law.>as you already concededI conceded no such thing, you braindead faggot.>>518450093>Nigger they are apart of an organization that is engaging in those activists within the US fucking dailyThere is no proof the people belonged to any organization, moron.
>>518450551>It absolutely doesFucking where you retard?
>>518450237It doesn't fucking matter the person who has the authority in this matter has made the legal call and there is fuck all you can do or say about it.
>>518450551>It absolutely doesthe US is bound by UNCLOS because it is not a partythat's a shame though because UNCLOS permits and in fact obligates signatories to blow up tren de aragua boats
>>518443582>wow you fucking oppressors it wasn't a venuezlan drug boat, it was a Columbian drug boat!
>>518443582Not my problem moor faggot.
>>518450551>America is required to follow it, regardless of whether we recognize it or not.according to who? UNCLOS only binds signatories
>>518450583 Caught on camera with an ungodly amount of drugs, what fucking moron is going to argue they aren't working with drug cartels?
>>518450583>Cite where the UN said America was above international lawThe UN's founding articles and incorporation of the UN security council and their veto powers?
>>518450551You're legally obligated to not follow illegal orders and if you're coerced into obeying illegal orders you can complain to a congressman for example
>>518450583>Cite where the UN said America was above international law.we aren't, you mental midgetwork on your reading comprehensionyou already conceded that these strikes did not violate any international law.you conceded that domestic approval does not factor into whether we have violated any international laws.you conceded that the supreme court has recognized the applicability of international law to US affairs (although you're not interested in know the name of the case)you conceded that the strikes are not "murder" under any applicable legal code
>>518450698Technically that doesn't put us above the law, it makes the law what we say it is
>>518446404No, you see It's fine when a "totally deserved Nobel Peace Prize winning Democrat" president extrajudically kills people overseas including American citizens, but ORANGE MAN BAD when combating the lying fags in South/Central America who ship a fuckload of Fentanyl and other shit in the US all the time with no consequences.
>>518450698>>518450810for the anons who aren't incurious retards with a communist agenda: international law is equivalent to constitutional law and supreme to federal law.this applies to customary international law as well as any treaties that we have both signed and ratified.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paquete_Habana
>>518446269Who has jurisdiction over international waters?
>>518446611>You can't just arbitrarily call people terrorists.You literally voted for them to be able to do that. You're just asshurt that the other side gets to do it now.
>>518450918>jurisdiction over international waters?No one.
>>518450918everyonein practice, america, and britain before us.but any navy who wants to go fight pirates or slavers has a thousand years of both customary law and treaty law on their side.duties. like not attacking fishermen are universal, and so is the right to enforce them
>>518443582I wish that orange nigger would in fact carpet bomb the fuck out of this shithole. >>518444707kys manolo cocksucker. That literal faggot president told US troops to disobey the orange nigger. Kill yourself instantly podemos lapdog faggot.
>>518443876Always has been
>>518450902>barring a "controlling executive or judicial decision"executive decision, such as "go bomb the drug boats?"
>>518443582You're nothing but shit. Blow all you subhuman shitskin animals upIDGAF
>>518446269>murdering them extrajudicially is illegal.Call the fucking police then.
>>518446269You seem upset You should do somethingHowever you won't do shit PUSSYNot jack fucking shit you pathetic little fucking PUSSY
why do brown people, slavs, and chinks believe they're human? keep dying to our boats, retards
>>518446926>It isn't. Again, these strikes are flagrantly unconstitutional and that's the consensus among virtually all legal scholars in this country.Unless any of them can do anything about it, they can eat shit. It's legal because we said it's legal and unless anyone who claims otherwise can actually do anything about it, then it's irrelevant.
>>518443582Oh no they hit the wrong type of drug boat. One has spics in it, and the other had spics in it. Can you believe it?
>>518443582This coke head is retarded. All drug traffickers are being targeted. It doesnt matter where theyre from. This faggot wont do shit and cant do shit.
>>518451198it's a red herringwhy would international law protect pirates?international law obligates killing pirates
>>518450121>of course it isNo it isn't, retard. It's a claim, not evidence. Evidence is used to substantiate claims, and Rubio has not provided any.>>518450121>I already refered to you to six prior conflictsCompletely irrelevant to UNCLOS.>I can prove it all dayYou have no proof they're pirates or drug smugglers, retard.>which tautologically makes it legalNope. America declaring itself above the law does not make it so. >>518450192>Video of them loading up their boat with cartel narcotics is the evidence you fucking snake.There is no evidence of that.>>518450219>I taught you that due process does not derive from international lawI never claimed that it did, you fucking moron. Due process still exists under international law even if the concept didn't originate from it, dumb piece of shit.>you called a lawful killing a murderIt's not lawful under US or international law. >no that was youNo, it was you who started mentioning prosecutions.>you keep incorrectly linking it to a criminal matterMurder can be used to describe killings outside the context of criminal law, you idiot.>>518450519>Anyone filling a high speed boat to capacity with drugs on videoThis never happened.>and is working with the cartels that have been labeled terroristsThere is no proof of this.
>>518451341>t. private Tyrone Ramirez I hope you get drafted and blown into a million mutt pieces somewhere in the middle east.
>>518445860Its literally about killing drug traffickers. People assume its some mega conspiracy 4d chess. Its just killing drug traffickers
>>518448735>You can't.I'm pretty sure we did.
>the boat leaving a known drug smuggling area at high speeds was definitely a bunch of women and children on vacation because we said so, chud
>>518443876If you're brown yes
>>518445361>lets just call everyone terroristsPractical
>>518443582Accusing the United States, a country full of oil, of going to war for it is like accusing China of going to war for population.
>>518451633I mean if there is somid proof, sharing it would be positive. Still, since you have the boats position, just intercept it. But I assume that is not flashy enough for orange man.This won't give him a peace prize
>>518443582>can't even tell where a boat is coming fromFlag etiquette and port [re]gistry.
>>518451893And to a country that exports all petroleum it extracts and still manages to run a fiscal deficit.
>>518450526>that you are aware of, because governments generally do not reveal sources and methods of intelligence gatheringThey have not provided it to Congress either, nor did they notify Congress beforehand.>>518450586In international waters, retard.>>518450621Again, just because America doesn't recognize international law does not mean international law doesn't exist. >>518450655It doesn't. It's international law that everyone must follow regardless of whether states are signatories or not.>>518450690That literally doesn't exist.
>>518451893das rite, we only go to war for jewish interests.
>>518451494Cope. Colombia is a narco state. If colombians stop trafficking drugs, they wont get killed. Stop making and selling drugs
>>518451989Post script: For your knowledge.https://www.marineinsight.com/marine-navigation/flags-on-ships-a-detailed-guide/
>>518450698The power to veto UN Resolutions does not mean we're above international law, retard.>>518450786>you already conceded ....No I didn't. You have no argument because you're a fucking idiot.>>518450918UNCLOS and by extension, the UNSC.>>518450921I voted for Jill Stein.
>>518451975>just shoot the criminal in the leg from the helicoptersaid the memeflag
>>518452054The UN doesn't have jurisdiction in international waters you retard. The UN only has jurisdiction at their general assembly. The UN defines what is international waters.
>>518452170>not mean we're above international law,>UN resolution to force non signatory nations to abide by UN treaties?>Vetoed.
>>518447032How is killing people without even knowing who they are anything but murder?
>>518451475>No it isn'tof course it is. you're conflating "evidence" with "absolute proof that I personally find convincing" which is a tiresome tactic and makes you look silly.>>I already refered to you to six prior conflicts>Completely irrelevant to UNCLOS.you are confused. in fact I was using these historical conflicts to prove that killing pirates, smugglers, and terrorists is not just legal but mandatory under centuries of customary and treaty law.you conceded that there is proof that the targets of these strikes were within those categories.>America declaring itself above the law does not make it so.that never happenedamerica is subject to international law, you clearly don't care about that though and will keep bringing up this meaningless red herring.>Due process still exists under international law even if the concept didn't originate from itthat's not what derive meansdue process does not exist under intl law, it's a purely american conceptyou can verify this with a quick searchI'm not sure why you're determined to make such a fool of yourself over this simple matter of fact>>you called a lawful killing a murder>It's not lawful under US or international law.you were proven wrong and had no rebuttal, thus you conceded that the killings are lawful under both US and international law.>No, it was you who started mentioning prosecutions.no that was youas you conceded, you kept incorrectly linking it to a criminal matter, by incorrectly calling it "murder"this happened before I mentioned prosecutions in response to your categorical error, when you incorrectly called these lawful killings "murders">Murder can be used to describe killings outside the context of criminal lawwell sureincorrectly>retard retard fucking moron idiot dumb piece of shit idiotad hom should be used sparingly and sprinkled with persuasive, non-fallacious argumentsotherwise it just makes you look like a toddler, as here
>>518452413Murder has a legal definition. The boat bombings do not rise to it.
>>518443582"That was our drug boat not theirs"These people are so retarded
>>518445579Admirals and captains for military vessels have the same authorities as judges and can operate with autonomy. [walk the plank, into the brig with you].
>>518447496>south korea>improved by americalol. lmao.They have the lowest birth rate on Earth, the worst feminists on Earth. And they're the only other developed country besides us that mutilates their boys' genitals.
>>518452054america DOES recognize international lawI gave examples, cited casesyou've fought me on this strawman claim I never made which I already told you is 100% inaccuratethis is an unprecedented level of retardation
>>518452531I mean it is a huge issue, your CIA will be pissed.
>>518452179You know there are such things as coast guard vessels>hurpdidurr comply or we will open fireSee now you have a situation that doesnt make you a raging mong when you kill people
>>518443582It's not about the boatsIt's about the BOOM!
>>518452170I accept your concession to these facts that you could not even attempt to refute:these strikes did not violate any international law.domestic approval does not factor into whether we have violated any international laws.the supreme court has recognized the applicability of international law to US affairs, but this does not include treaties unless we have both signed and ratified them. thus, UNCLOS does not apply to the US.the strikes are not "murder" under any applicable legal code.you conceded all of these points.>you're a fucking idiotad hom should be used sparingly and sprinkled with persuasive, non-fallacious argumentsotherwise it just makes you look like a toddler, as here
>>518443582"guy with red cape who is president of drug land says there was no drugs on his drug boat"
>>518446058IIRC they were mercenaries who got arrested after a totally not the CIA coup plot got exposed.
It was obvious we were going to war with Venezuela the moment Rubio was appointed sec state. Rubio was connected with a Cuban drug lord (through marriage) and during his career has been deeply involved with anti government narco groups throughout central and South American.
>>518452413murder is an unlawful premeditated killinglack of any of these elements is an asbolute defense to murderin this case, it's not unlawful, because it's authorized by international anti-piracy conventions that predate america by a hundred years.
>>518452520>Murder has a legal definition.Yeah, any intentional homicide that isn't mitigated by some other factor. This is intentional homicide. And since the identities of those killed aren't even known to the killers, there is no argument that they were acceptable military targets. And there's certainly no self defense argument.So that's pretty straightforwardly murder.
>>518443582>global action We can readily reintroduce Monroe Doctrine and treat all non-US, non-Western hemisphere nations vessels as valid military targets if you wish.
>>518452751Yeah Mitchell WerBell the third.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_WerBell_III
>>518452413It's on Trumps orders so he can deal with the karma good or bad.
>>518452790Can you please cite the international anti-piracy convention that authorizes arbitrarily killing and and all sailors you feel like without any identification or cause? I'd like an exact quote.
>>518452827It is mitigated by some other factors, read the thread. It's very thoroughly explained.
>>518443582Why does he have gill slits on his face?
>>518443582>The primary producers of cocaine are *Colombia*, Peru, and BoliviaLucky hit, Zognald.
>>518443582Can we blow this faggot nerd up next?
>>518453125No it isn't. I can assure you that if you go around screaming that everyone around you is a terrorist and start shooting people at random you will go to prison. If you are not justifiably killed on the spot in self defense first.
>>518452847>Muh Monroe doctrineBuddy, it's 200 years later.China exists.Brazil exists.Go jerk off to political cartoons from the 1800s.The US is a waning power.
>>518446090>Does the (US) Air Force have a base in Colombia?These Bases include 2 naval bases: Cartagena and Tolemaida, 3 air force bases: Malambo, Palanquero, and Apiay and 2 army bases: Larandia and Tolemaida.
>>518453368I happen to not be the secretary of state, nor am I the commander in chief, so you would be correct.
>>518443839CONSPIRACY KEKMcGoy not beating the faggotretard allegations
>>518443582>The incompetent mutts blew up a Colombian boat thinking it was Venezuelas.10 posts by this faggotOP with Spanish flag is a well known shill..Probably CCP
>nooo the drug smugglers you blew up were from a country whose drug smugglers you shouldn't blow upJust some normal Colombians taking a speedboat ride towards the north.>>518443876Yes, we're at war.>m-muh trialsoldiers don't get a trial, they get explosions
>>518453454If either of those people do that, it is also murder. But thank you for admitting that's what's going on.
>>518443876Coast guard used to shoot them until they stopped or caught fire and sank. I like the boom better.
>>518443876>so now the penalty for using a speed boat is being blown up without a trial?yes!all those boats bringing muslims into Europe should be blown up.
>>518443876Yes. We are saving the planet, one fuel guzzling and polluting speed boat at a time
>>5184530321604 Peace Treaty and Capitulation between King Henry IV of France and Ottoman Sultan Ahmed I>XIX. If the Pyrates, or Levents, who infest the Seas with their Frigates, shall be found to have taken any English Vessel, or to have robbed or spoiled their Goods and Faculties: Also if it shall be found, that in any of our Dominions, any shall have violently taken Goods of any English Man, our Ministers shall with all diligence seek out such Offenders, and severely punish them.doublenigger
>>518453594It's not, read the thread.
>>518453811Did you not read this before you posted it? It's not that long. You should give it a try.
>>518443582>The incompetent mutts blew up a Colombian boat thinking it was Venezuelas. If they can't even tell where a boat is coming from, how can they tell that it is carrying drugs?Reminder that OP is a shill.Faggot is 24/7 on /pol/ baking divisive threads
>>518443582>the chad alphas blew up a boat full of jungle spics thinking they were jungle spicsoh wow lol
>>518453960your gaslighting attempt failed.piracy has been illegal and subject to summary execution since prehistory.treaties between france, england, the ottomans, and the HRE between 1400-1700 confirmed each nation's obligation to meet piracy with deadly force.I gave you one and you lied to me about what it says.you are a spiritual and likely literal nigger.failing to kill pirates was a causus belli between these nations and they forced each other to recognize pirate killing as not just a right but an obligation, by extracting concessions in treaties.these treaties became so widespread that they were considered "customary international law" applicable to all nations by the time the US supreme court endorsed these norms in the case of the paquete habana.later, international conventions affirmed and further detailed everyone's obligation to kill pirates under international law. unfortunately the US isn't a member, but the customary duty to kill pirates still applies to us, as paquete habana says: both customary IL and US-ratified treaty law are the law of the land here.I've proven I know what I'm talking about and all you can do is lie.>Article I of the US Constitution>"To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations">Piracies>Offences against the Law of Nationsdoublenigger
>>518444174basedstay the fuck out of the white man's ocean
>>518454456kike-kun, you refuted yourself with your own post. You proved that the standards of evidence for anti-piracy provisions from the fucking age of sail were more stringent than what you're defending now.
>>518444590>he's saying the bombing of the small boat is a precursor to a regime change operation for oil, YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>518444580>Fun fact.kill yourself faggot redditor
>>518443582>Drug boat is Colombian rather than VenezuelanIMPEACH BLUMPFTFT NOW!Yeah, no one cares. Kill them all.
>>518443582>The incompetent mutts blew up a Colombian boat thinking it was Venezuelas. If they can't even tell where a boat is coming from, how can they tell that it is carrying drugs?Why would a faggot from Spain worry so much about USA when his own country is being invaded by arabs and niggers?
>>518454626yeah anon they were crosschecking peoples IDs against the central ottoman empire database of innocent englishmen.you fucking retard.it is a nation's duty to kill pirates. I taught you how that came to be here >>518454456
>>518453368>I can assure you that if you go around screaming that everyone around you is a terrorist and start shooting people at random you will go to prisonBut abdul, you ARE a terrorist
>>518443582This is some 1984 type shit!
>>518455313The excerpt you posted is entirely about what evidence justifies a reprisal. It concerns nothing else. If you read but a single sentence of it, you would see that you are a retarded subhuman nigger and kill yourself in shame. So please hurry up and do that.
>>518455731>memeflagThe abduls are your cousins, kike shitskin, not mine.
>>518456011>what evidence justifies a reprisalthat's falseit is a concession forced on the ottomans by the french, which they had forced on them by english 200 years before:>our Ministers shall with all diligence seek out such Offenders, and severely punish thempersonally I find this fascinatingyou're obligated to pretend it was about something elsebecause it might convince some 80 IQ lurker who can't understand that orange man is bad for doing what the law has obligated people to do for hundreds of years: KILL PIRATEStriplenigger
>>518453567hush, subhumann polak, you have no idea what you´re talking about
>>518455985>This is some 1984 type shit!indeed, anon
