would legalizing pay for sex fix the incel problem
>>518692679The incel problem is a mix of transgenderism and diversity, so no. Deport shitskins and exile troons to a quiet part of your state and life returns to normal.
>>518692679ask your mother
>>518692679No its what created it in the first place. The United States has millions of prostitutes who sell sex out of hotel rooms. Basically since the mid 2000s I guess. They don't need pimps and the police can't prosecute anyone without entrapment.
>>518692778>File: 1736879535369566.pngkek
>>518692679everywhere that has prostitution has incels also >nevada >amsterdam >japanso looks like it doesn't fix it
>>518692679Making something legal isn't enough, it also needs to be normalised. If women had competition from cheap hookers they would have to start competing for men's attention.
>>518692679No, they can buy a whore now. They want love which is very rare now
>>518692831>they would have to start competing for men's attentionthe didjust not yoursgreat job normalizing being a whore now all women are whores
Yes it would fix a lot of the issues
>>518692679No it would just give women more power
Having sex has never been the number one problem of the incel question. You can go out and pay a whore right now it won't stop you from being an unlovable subhuman or increase your chances of building a family.
>>518692903What a cucked perspective. Women were always whores and will forever be whores. Your mother was a whore and you're her little simp.
>>518692679No, it's legal here but I and many others are khv incel losers.
>>518692679Whores would raise their standards.
>>518692679Prostitution dehumanizes the female.
Killing billions of shitskins and degenerates and people who make degenerate slide threads would fix it
yes but deporting rapefugees would help too
>>518692778kek
>>518692769The incel problem is an abundance of improperly socialized men in a more sexually competitive environment.
>>518692679In Poland even hookers these days don't want shut ins as clients.I am an autistic sperg that has been using escorts since two decades(I am 40) and since 2-3 years more and more hookers are starting to put up demands in ads like "you have to take me out for a coffee first" or "no grandpas over 40", "be fit and young, and interesting". Many will take your money and then pretend to feel ill and cancel the meeting without you getting money back. A hooker I paid last week told me she will fuck me but I dress "unfashionable" and she prefers "clients who dress in style".I am not obese or fat, and I just wear casual clothes.I am not even considering trying normal non payable sex. I go to the gym and chad like bros with abs are complaining in the changing room about being unable to have a date.The hypergamy is off the charts now.I honestly don't know how the world will look in 10 years. With men denied even prostitutes, how will their sexual frustration find an outlet?
>>518692679If you pay a prostitute to give you a 4/10 blowjob or lay still for you for 10 min, you don't suddenly stop being a virgin. Everybody knows this intuitively. You only stop being virgin if a girl consents to you with at least a pretense of doing it for free, that's the entire point.
No. """Incels""" dont just want sex. You can get sex for like 100 euros in every corner of germany because its legal here. What an """incel""" wants is the feeling of knowing they can attract a female. Not sure how this is hard to understand. All my loser friends that never got with a girl are literal 30+ year olds that missed out on the experience of talking to girls or approaching them and are now far too removed and level 30 wizzards while even ugly fat women their age have been fuxked countless times. There is no way they could even get it up for a prosititute. You people have no idea how it really goes.
>>518692819>>518693201
force women to have sex for free
>>518693291It can still demystify sex and give you a "trial run" which I think helps dissipate a lot of the nervous energy and obvious inexperience virgins have that sets of women's ick detectors.
>>518693251Succinct description, well done.
>>518692679Only genetic engineering can fix the incel problem.
>>518692679Rape exists."Incel" is a nonsense word for retarded women.
>>518693257>I go to the gym and chad like bros with abs are complaining in the changing room about being unable to have a date. Crazy. Kind of nuts that I see some fairly good-looking guys that also are very fit with borderline obese women that don't even have a nice face. I assume they just had several gfs cheat on them.If you had a short montage of people walking by in some public place from now and could show it to people from 20 years ago (let's say you cherry pick so they aren't shocked by demographics) they would probably notice 1st or 2nd (after people staring at their phones) how it's eerie there's barely any couples out anywhere anymore.
I started fucking hookers at the AMP and I am still an incel but this shit is still great for my mental health and so far they've all been clean enough to eat. >>518693120That's weird so far all the prostitutes have been funny and make me laugh and I respect the hell out of them for making me feel good I see them as more human than your mom or nonhooker women are I bet most men see women who give them a good time as more human than the average twat. Fuck you faggot.
>>518692679Government mandated girlfriends.
>>518693346
>>518693251>more sexually competitive environment.So what, women are going to mate with a different mare each season and child?I gave up long ago, so I'm out of the running. That still means chad and jock still need to compete for a shrinking dating pool and one of them won't make it.
>>518693251The Incel problem is the result of modern feminism artificially boosting the egos of women to the point where even average ones believe they deserve an exceptionally attractive male. The average women of today ignore the average men.
>>518692679>would legalizing pay for sex fix the incel problemno, because what people are seeking is the Love of God. Only Jesus Christ can fill the void in people's hearts.
>>518692679no you'll still have thousands of incels bitching here about sex being too expensive and "being incel is good and trad actually"
>>518693251>in a more sexually competitive environment.no one wants to have sex with a jeet, not even this guy.
>>518692679Imagine to put your dick in a foreign body when you can coom fine to tik tok thots.You have to be insane
>>518692679The government wants to protect people from having sex.Drugs are okay.You can tax drugs.You can't tax sex but they will find a way.
>>518692778>>518693201>>518693346>>518693565Racoons: Bros or Niggers?
>>518692679remove access to birth control unless married, remove abortions, outlaw feminism, no books, no training nothing. Reinforce from primary school onwards that the number one thing for a woman to do is have children, not to go work for schlomo at the office and fuck niggers.
>>518693046Montako kertaa olet aktiivisesti iskenyt jotain muijaa? Turha ulista jos runkkaat yksin himassa piirretyille pikkutytöille. Ite oon ylipainoinen manletti eikä ole koskaan ollut ongelmaa hoitaa itelleni panoa tai pidempää parisuhdetta, riittää kun ei ole vapiseva vässykkä.
>>518692679It wouldn't, because paying for sex doesn't mean that women want you. Incels want to be wanted.
>>518693798They're cool and fun to watch. If someone/thing isn't aggressive enough to go after them but just stare they'll just get on their hind legs, give you the "are you not entertained" hand spread, and pretty much tell you to fuck off lmao
>>518693837olen vapiseva vässykkä.Ja sitäpaitsi kyse oli yhteiskunnallisesta ilmiöstä ja siitä, jos kyseisellä toimenpiteellä olisi vaikutusta siihen ilmiöön.
incels are just men who refuse to be in the role of women appeasers
>>518692679Women won't do it. They make more money off simps on OnlyFans, that putting out is now beneath them.
>>518693798Bros but self-interested and can be aggressive/pettyI woke up to my campsite being raided. We had a big rock on top of the cooler and there was one raccoon on either side deadlifting the rock to remove it and steal the goodies. They are basically as smart as the smartest dogs with fingers and emotionally/socially very intelligent
>>518692679its proof that youre delusional and it doesnt exist you dumb slut
>>518694037>We had a big rock on top of the cooler and there was one raccoon on either side deadlifting the rock to remove it and steal the goodies. Lol
>>518692679legalizing prostitution would make incels not a thing, since they would in a technical sense no longer be incels. but it wouldn't change any of the reality of their place in the current dating paradigm, and it wouldn't make any of them happier or less dangerous, because the mechanical act of empty sex is soul crushing and disgusting, whether you're doing it with a girl in a relationship or doing it with a prostitute. being a fakecel i know this. you only think you want sex. you don't know. especially not with a prostitute. that's fucking gross.
>>518692788>the police can'tWTF you smoking? Police can do w/e they want just like ICE
>>518692679Paying for a woman to have sex with you is unlikely to improve your self-esteem.
>>518692679indirectlywomen behave differently when you have access to affordable cunt
>>518693816Mormonism, in other words.
>>518692679>>518694564other than that i wouldnt recommend going raw: my dick is spotted ever since like i caught vitiligo and yeah regular outbreaks
>>518692679You can look at places where prostitution is legal or decriminalised and see has it worked there? Answer is no, no it hasn't
>>518694350They can arrest you but they can't prosecute you. Its not illegal to give a gift to woman and its not illegal for a woman to have sex with you. When they were street walking that was different because they could observe everything. Some random guy walking into a hotel room is not illegal and there is no way they can tell what you are doing in there. The only way they can fight it is by putting undercover female officers out there. There are also situations where the hotels are shit and have shitty people around who are on parole and stuff. Cops can do raids there and all the rooms. And nobody worth a shit will stay at those kind of hotels.
>>518693837>>518693985Original Order (Corrected):Reply to >>518693046:How many times have you actively hit on some chick? No use whining if you jerk off alone at home to drawn little girls. I'm an overweight dude myself and it's never been a problem arranging pussy for myself or a longer relationship—just gotta not be a trembling little dick.Response:I am a trembling little dick. And besides, it was about a societal phenomenon and whether that action would have any effect on that phenomenon.fuck you snowniggers
>>518693257>With men denied even prostitutes, how will their sexual frustration find an outlet?gee i wonder
Doesn't matter, it's legal here and all women are whores yet I am still a virgin at 30.>inb4 never asked a girl outI did.
>>518693509basedit's just a marketplay the competition
>>518692679I would never pay.
>>518693701>The Incel problem is the result of modern feminism artificially boosting the egos of women to the point where even average ones believe they deserve an exceptionally attractive male. The average women of today ignore the average menit's not just their ago, it's their pool of available optionsprovider options especiallythe state has replaced the husbandnot to mention jew daycare "jobs" of coursewomen are above all pragmatic
I banged 20 prostitutes and it was funnyThey cant mask being disgusted by my ugliness no matter how hard they try but that just turns me on more
It should be banned.Legalising it just encourages women to be whores.
>>518694943>women are above all pragmaticcontinuingthey also want full agencyif there is a reshuffling of the cards going on, and there is in the west right now, they want more power not lessmany women do believe that women have been oppressed by men forever
It's kind of amazing that so many millennials have at least some kind of socialist leanings and complain about landlords and enterpreneurs yet when brought up with competition for women they suddenly become all "lol skill issue bro">>518694943>the state has replaced the husbandThisIt's fucking hilarious that in my line of work, I'm surrounded with people who still think it's 1995 or 2005 and believe you can bag any woman by cash and honest work. This was never the case of course but you'd have to earn tens of thousand per month these days only to be a money piñata
>>518693985>en uskalla katsoa tyttöjä silmiin kun puhun niille, auta yhteiskunta ja vaihda vaipat samallaVoi nyt vittujen kevät taas.
>>518695078Based anon sama
>>518695164They'll be whores no matter what. Legalized prostitution just means normie women will have to put in more effort to attract and impress a man by competing with the whores and men won't have to waste as much time and money to get sex.
>>518694693thank you chatgpt>>518695363Mitä vittua sä nyt selität. Sanoin vain ettei huorien laillistaminen vaikuta tähän laajempaan yhteiskunnalliseen ilmiöön millään lailla. Suomessa, kuten tiedät, voi helposti käydä huorissa täysin laillisesti. Tästä huolimatta nuorten miesten seksuaaliseen ahdinkoon ei ole nähtävissä minkäänlaista eroavaisuutta sellaisiin yhteiskuntiin jossa huorissa käymisestä tulee putkareissu. Eli, voimme todeta että toimenpide ei vaikuta ilmiöön millään lailla.
>>518692679Did legalizing weed stop stoners from being retards?
>>518692679It'd certainly improve a lot of things>>518692829Maybe because it's still shamed and isn't organized enough? Nevada is one small place by US metrics and isn't it just decriminalized in the Netherlands? Not fully legal in Japan either.
>>518693257>With men denied even prostitutes, how will their sexual frustration find an outlet?Sexbots.
>>518692679Yes. I love whores, they are beautiful, chill and friendly. Sometimes, they feel pity from me shaking from talking with them and give extra service for free
>>518693257Oh yeah how come I missed this post, it's so true.Relating to my point >in my line of work, I'm surrounded with people who still think it's 1995 or 2005 and believe you can bag any woman by cash and honest workI think because truly "normie" normies are a dwindling group, they are starting to put up more and more performative facades. I've seen hardcore nationalist types here who want a supposedly "trad" society, but their outlook on women is basically just let them do whatever the fuck they want barely different from 3rd wave feminism
>>518695715>there will be murders no matter what!>there will be abortions no matter what!>there will be druggies no matter what!>there will be whores no matter what!Yes goy, just accept degradation of morals, nothing bad will come of it, you can trust your fellow Schlomo.
>>518692819>quote filenameWhat am i missing???
>>518693943I half expected the bear and the gay blowjob in that pic
>>518696715Not comparable and you didn't read the full post before replying. Illegal prostitution usually just means that you'll have a hard time buying hookers. Women will keep whoring out on the streets, online or through dating. Men have to do all the work and court the women just to get pussy. Women don't have to do shit. Legal prostitution changes a rigged misandrist game and levels the playing field.
>>518697359Retarded take. What levels the field is women being under the control of fathers and husbands and the institution of marriage.Your way of thinking is part of the problem.
>>518693798They are anons if anons were animals.Total bros.
>>518692679>SIR WE NEED THE GLOWIE FEED OF 7PBTID RIGHT NOW!@$#@@!
>>518694912Bazzini
>>518693798Absolute bros
>>518692679its legal here, i am still an incel :/ i grabbed prostitute tits though, i could not help it, she sold her self for 1 LEV
>>518692679No because what Incels actually want is to be desired.
>>518692984What makes you say that?
>>518692679It would not fix it but it would counteract pussy inflation which would help in the end.
>>518697450>is women being under the control of fathers and husbands and the institution of marriage.Which isn't gonna happen and is just wishful thinking. Men doesn't benefit much from marriage right now and marriage vows can easily be broken plus most people aren't even religious these daysNone of this would fix the incel problem which was the point of the thread.
>>518692679no because part of being an incel is being poor. rich people aren't incels unless they are too arrogant to engage in transactional sex/relationships. so being an icel is really saying is ugly AND poor, because hot chicks will fuck date and marry ugly dudes all the time.
In a tremendous ironic twist, what most are asking for is already structurally done by Islam.Yes its causing a fucking shitstorm in the EU but keeping their women under control is the one thing I can give them.
>>518692679There is no incel problem.
>>518699203I for one really enjoyed the "Islam is right about women" psyop
>>518692788KEK the police do stings for prostitution literally all the time. Sometimes they use a female officer as the bait and and sometimes they flip a prostitute that was arrested and use her.
>>518699256While /pol/ is radically extreme in how it expresses notions i.e, women and jews, the fundamental points are right:>Women in the west are disproportionately given too much freedom, destabalising the societal dynamic and birth rate And>Jews have too much power and influence to the net negative of many.But I digress. My only concern is if we somehow did reach the end game, an Islamic attitude to women, the end game is arguably worse in that we will become too populated and invariably start killing each other over more scarce resources. Almost full circle as our ancient ancestors.
>>518699320>and sometimes they flip a prostitute that was arrested and use her.Thats entrapment. The police aren't allowed to use entrapment. You can't like set someone up to commit a crime. The police a really limited to the shithole hotels and the nigger pimps. These girls work out of middle to nice hotels and don't have nigger pimps.
>>518692679Probably. It'll show more of the shitty mothers because they'll be mostly single parent's or soon to be. Women will be more incline to stay pure because women will be jealous of the prestige / clout. >Timmy what does your parents do for work>she's an of/whore>Mommy, why can't i see daddy?>I don't know who he is, wait one sec>aghh oouu *slurp can you tell me this later. I'm serving a customer
>>518699593Ok but you’re wrong. Google “prostitution sting [major city].” I assure you they entrap people all the time and the “this is entrapment” defense doesn’t work. I’ve seen cases where they use a police woman to pose as an escort at a hotel bar, as a street walker, as an online erotic massage provider. They can and do run prostitution stings. They’re particularly common in red states. The one kind of sting they never do is outcall because of the logistics and safety issues.
>>518699593>The police aren't allowed to use entrapment.Yet they do. The crapstitution is toilet paper and until you figure that out, your butthole will get reamed the fuck out by the boots when your magic paper does fuckall nothing to protect you.
>>518692679I definitely did not choose to label myself with a subhuman trait, wtf.
>>518700034>I’ve seen cases where they use a police woman to pose as an escort at a hotel bar, as a street walker, as an online erotic massage providerPretty clear you have missed the point. They work out of hotel rooms by themselves.
https://youtu.be/koS4DiiaheUhttps://youtu.be/tnT8Z2IK5sA?t=1279
>>518698614Not with that attitude.Of course the incel problem would be fixed if you could only get with a woman if you married her and divorce weren't legal. On top of the different morals. There would be no female hypergamy.This isn't more wishful thinking than thinking legalizing prostitution won't make society worse.
>>518692679No. Far too many unintended consequences with no long term benefits.
Maybe if they didnt bring so many foreign people hereIts just gross now
>>518704141There are already prostitutes here in Zagreb and I'd be a virgin without those. Not even ugly, just unemployed still at 27 and unsocial. I don't like normies and I don't want a serious relationship with a 21st century emancipated female. Most people are more liberal than you are and your cries against degeneracy are impotent. I used to be a massive moralfag until 23 when I realized that monogamy is a joke and every man is a cuck and every woman a whore. Just legalize it and mind your own business. Liberalism is still the current zeitgeist.
>>518692679babies are expensive. Who in the fuck would PLAN to have a kid in world with jack asses like you in it?If i had kids, i would call congress to legislate this shit off the internet so fast you'd be moaning like a hoe. I'd call BOTH liberal and conservative. Oh yes. I've already done it with surprising results!
>>518692679This has nothing to do with politics. It ain't nobodies fucking business. Solicitation of prostitution is a crime on or off the net.
>>518704324People think what they are told to think. You should have understood that by now.>There are already prostitutes here in Zagreb and I'd be a virgin without those.So what? This is not a valid argument like you seem to believe.
>>518704324Also you should understand by now that the current system is unsustainable. Liberalism has failed and something new will rise.
a bullet to the head of OP would get rid of at least one fucking retard off the planet. just go look at countries were hooking is legal. they all have incels. you're a fucking idiot OP and if you read this cut your dick off if you already haven't
>>518704424>So what? This is not a valid argument like you seem to believe.It is to me and men like me. Prostitution is a massive relief for many men which you wish to get rid of because... *crickets*. OH it's le degeneraceee! So is everything. A good third of marriages are degeneracy due to the rampant infidelity. Let's ban marriage, shall we?>>518704471Until it happens, no one cares. I read occasional news articles about demographic crises around the world (and in Croatia), but nothing is being done to prevent it. People value liberalism over everything else. It will only be revoked when there is nothing else left to do.>>518704497Those are volcels.
>>518704632Low IQ. Sad.Marriage is not degenerate, infidelity is. Prostitution is degenerate.
>>518698016All the non-whores in history were killed when they wouldn't comply with the local conquerorThus entire generation of whore women were bornFor generation after generationThat's why (and how)
>>518704729Even marriage is de facto prostitution. Get married without spending a cent since you've met the woman. Go ahead smartass.
>>518704632you're a fucken idiot too. if you pay to loose your virginity you are still a virgin to me, since you had to pay. similar to people who just use some Nepalese cunt to carry them up Everest. The dumb bitches who went to "space" in Bezo's cock rocket
>>518704846Good to know I'm still God's holy virgin. I won't even confess fornication anymore.
>>518704899It's nice you think I am god but I am not and don't wish to be. Jesus seemed to like prostitutes but boning outside of wedlock is a sin nigger
>>518692679Absolutely not.
>>518693257>I honestly don't know how the world will look in 10 years. With men denied even prostitutes, how will their sexual frustration find an outlet?violenceI think that's the reason why so many religions hold women on a leech.maybe there was a time in humanity where similar conditions where present and men realized there is worse consequences, for humanity, if you don't guide women to a more submissive nature.
>>518704983Right. Whether it is real sex or not depends on what is bad for me in the given context. Thanks for enlightening me.
>>518692679There isn't an incel problem There is a dumb donkey subhuman vaccinated problem.I can smell the mRNA off of you.
>>518705071fucking a hooker isn't an achievement. at least fucking a slut takes some effort, even for chad. it's even worse if your Dad or someone pays because then you didn't even earn the money
>>518705305Why would I value sex only if it comes through effort? I'd most like to be a gigachad and have women run after me as I fuck them effortlessly, but that's just a fantasy for the vast majority.>it's even worse if your Dad or someone pays because then you didn't even earn the moneyHell yeah, that's the best part. I don't work or simp but I get A+ tier blowies twice a month at least. You're free to chase "achievements" because that's more important I guess.
>>518692679no, but it would fix the simp probrem, which is an actual one
>>518692679No, because then you'd have to battle the stigma of utilizing the whores. It'd be another soapbox for politicians and influencers to push feminist swill. It'd also raise the prices on quality pussy even further as they compete in a legitimate market, and I like my $100-$300 (depending on quality) whores.
>>518705438so personally I found fucking sluts and hookers pointless. most of the time the slut sex happened drunk and was shit for whatever reason. I went once to the hookers and afterwards it seemed like a waste of money>>518705477most hookers don't want to form parasocial relationships with their client's. they don't have a boyfriend or some other simp to pretend to be them when some faggot needs an emotional blanket
>>518705591>2025>afraid of stigmaISHYGDDTIt's just cucks and whores out there and no one is ashamed of it. What's the shame in fucking whores? Every woman is a whore.>It'd also raise the prices on quality pussy even further as they compete in a legitimate market, and I like my $100-$300 (depending on quality) whores.How does that work? Elaborate.
>>518705649I've been with over 50 by now and I'd rather if I didn't half the time, the other half I'm ok with, with a minority being worth every cent because the cock wranglers knew their job well. Now imagine getting married with an overwhelming chance that the bitch is bad at sex and isn't interested in improving.
>>518692679no. men want families and whores don't make good wives.
>>518705649irrelevantsimps don't care about women per se: they care about their own attachmentso their attachment doesn't even need to be reciprocatedit's just kind of an inner world masturbationnow, if the simp can fuck the cunt, his infatuation will dispel fast enough
>>518705760that's the problem with marriage. too many people marry people they shouldn't. I am sure if I kept going to hookers Id enjoy it but id rather just wank
>>518705760Also, judging by experience and reading forum posts, the best whores often get out of business presumably because someone fucking marries them. One girl that blew my mind last year told me she has a boyfriend that met her by hiring her.>>518705849Just stop pretending that real women aren't whores. We all pay one way or in many different ones. If it wasn't the case, prostitution wouldn't exist.
Hoeflation would take a massive hit.
>>518705897real = regular*
>>518693323Based truth poster.
>>518705826I think there are two problems lumped into one. yeah some guys could use a root because they need to understand it isn't that fucking great. it can be awesome but the pussy looses some of it's magical power. the other issue are the guys who are exactly the same as the picky women and have some list of shit that no women alive can ever tick off since a big one is that the women must be a virgin>>518705897yeah everyone pays, again with marriage in the end was it worth it? I am sure many say no. especially all those divorced dads left living in a shack
>>518692679>would legalizing pay for sex fix the incel problemnowe have lots of cheap whores, no problems, and lots of incels
>>518692679No you’d still be an unfuckable loser that repulses women you’d just be one who also pays for sex.
>>518693257cringe lies im a 120 kg man with a 10/10 blonde wife from Poland and 6 kidsshe always says "all real men in Poland died during ww2"maybe you're just a faggot
>>518706042I attracted many girls and I only fucked prostitutes. Just too neurodivergent and cynical for your normative relationshits.
>>518706029>the other issue are the guys who are exactly the same as the picky women and have some list of shit that no women alive can ever tick offtrue, but it goes far, far, far beyond cunts being virginscunts being supportive, reliable, homemakers isn't supposed to be anything crazy to demand (because it's cunts' nature, and anything going against nature always ends up crashing in flames)yet here we are
>>518706101>I attracted many girls and I only fucked prostitutesbasedI think I'll do the same when I'm too old to get fine young tail for free (I'm only 45, so not quite there yet, but still)
>>518706217Exactly. What we want almost every other zoomer male provides (if only we were faggots). What women want no woman provides. Who's the problem?
>>518692679But it should be cheap like $2 for one full 24 hours, multiple cooming, no restriction on activities. Basically everyday a whore would spend her day and night at an incel's goon room.
>>518705591>I like my $100-$300 (depending on quality) whoresI'm no expert but there's no such thing as a $100 whore in the USA afaikeven the fat tattooed middle aged mixed race whores charge $300 minimumunless you're getting special deals I don't believe any whores under $200 exist here, and those are bottom of the barrelgonna have to call larp on this one
>>518706217I am aware of what modern women are like. I'm 40 I know what options are out there for me. who knows maybe in the future everything will return to an equilibrium. both of us will probably be dead unless some catastrophe were to occur. I think it's probably pretty shit for women trying to find a husband at this point too
