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>yeh we’re just a bunch of evolved apes who happen to have consciousness somehow on a spinning rock with nothing coming after this life
How can you honestly believe and live like this
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>>518716729
Yeah, how can people not believe in magic jews??
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>>518716729
stop sacrificing virgins
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I assume based on the picture that you aren't actually interested in an answer, you just want replies because you're bored and lonely. This isn't politics, this is philosophy. Post on another board if you're so smart and stop pissing in the ocean of piss that is /pol/.
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>>518716729
Either there is something more afterlife or this is it.
Think about all of the life that has died before you and those that will die long after you.
Its almost as if its pointless. Except its not. There has been a challenge made. And to complete the challenge it will take the combined experience of all living things. Every generation is one step closer to winning.
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>akkkkkkkkkkshulllly, the foreskin eating jewish tribal war god (that nobody can see or verify in any way) made all this
Much better, thanks OP
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Come to /church/ >>>/gif/29615715
just ate a range ban on making threads on /pol/ for revealing pic rel.
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>>518717164
>kike seethes about Christ
must be a day ending in Y
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>yeah, we're a pile of dirt that was turned alive by magic jew breath and now have to worship jews or get tortured
How can any self-respecting White person buy into this without emotional black mail?
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>>518717454
you aren't white kike
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>>518716729
Theism and atheism can both be true at the same time.
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>>518717600
>dualistic worldview
gnostic detected.
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This image is from like 2009. I wonder if this guy has a youtube channel now or something.
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>>518717510
Nice projection there, spic. Go worship kikes somewhere else. "NO U" doesn't work here.
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>>518717510
You believe in a literal Jewish prophet who preached about a Jewish god to Jewish people. It’s okay to believe just based on faith, but don’t try to make it rational because that’s always going to fail (and is anathema to what Jesus preached anyway)
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>>518716729
It's not a "belief," it's a fact

How can you believe in supernatural magical thinking?
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>>518717733
>is literally jewish
>depicts anti-Kike religion as worshiping Christ-killing kike larpers
pottery
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>>518717332
Actually didn't mention your proto Marxist jew hippie messiah cooked up by Pharisee Paul but thanks for the schizo tears post
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>>518717751
you're a commercial reputation management firm paid by Israel to demean Christ.
Picrel: How kikes actually feel about Christians.
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>>518716821
Cultists got to feel superior somehow
With stupidity comes egoism
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>>518717829
>How can you believe in supernatural magical thinking?
like evolution?
Space is fake and gay
Nukes are a hoax
Evolution is a lie
Earth is flat and unmoving
Dinosaurs never existed
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>>518716729
Not sure desu.
Seems like an empty life to me.
I have never met a happy atheist.
Humans have always embraced some type of spirituality.
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>>518716911
This guy gets it. We're all gonna make it, anon.
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>>518717895
>jewish seething
lol
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>>518718013
lol
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>>518716729
Reminder that abiogenesis is still a hypothesis.
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>>518716729
This entire board is just pms-posting from people who never matured past 16.
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>>518716729
Some of us don't live like that.

Blue Eisenhower November

Been tagging this planet for a while.

I don't want to scare you all too much, so I'm not going to let this world know how it will actually cease existence.

However, we have some friends looking out for us.
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>>518716729
If God is real, then he's done such a good job of hiding himself and making the world explicable without him that I can only assume he wants us to be atheists.
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>>518718074
>Reminder that abiogenesis is still a hypothesis.
and evolution was specifically created to serve as as a secular alternative to Creation.
Satanic from the start.
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>>518718147
>This entire board is just pms-posting from people who never matured past 16.
never
stop
seething
you lost
you will continue to lose
and somehow you will lose more than you ever thought possible.
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>>518718276
>Satanic
Who created satan??
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>>518716729
Because that's what the evidence shows. Sorry copetard
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>>518718260
There's literally no evidence for evolution
in fact the genetic revolution has absolutely proved evolution false.
>le project blue beans
what a fag.
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>ME AM BELIEVE DESERT CULT BECAUSE ME AM SMART! ME MUMMY AND DADDY NOT DEAD THEY IN HEAVEN! TOOTH FAIRY GAVE ME MONEY FOR TOOTH! YOU NO KNOW SANTA CLAUSE LIKE ME DO!! ACCEPT EASTER BUNNY INTO YOUR HESRT TO BE REDEEMED!!
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>>518716729
>How can you honestly believe and live like this
allow me to brief summary
>NODAD I DON'T WANT TO GET UP EARLY ON SUNDAY I"M GOING TO BE LARPING WITH MY FURRY FRIENDS LATE SATURDAY
>NO FUCK YOU DAD!
and then they make teenage faggotry their whole life.

for the retards its not always furry but always faggotry
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>>518718353
>Who created satan??
Same thing that created your Satanic ass Herschel.
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>>518718356
>Because that's what the evidence shows. Sorry copetard
There is literally no evidence, NONE, for evolution.
which is why you can never produce any.
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>>518718035
>i take everything jews do at face value
>implying kikes don't know you hate them
Geeg
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>>518718381
>pinegap kike
lol
every
single
time
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IT NOT PLOT HOLES! IT AM THREE IN ONE! IT DO MAKE SENSE! YOU JUST TOO DUMB DUMB TO UNDEDSTA D THREE WAY GOD MAN!!
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>>518717829
Explain how you believe anything.

Pro-tip, you can't, without first accepting that you exist, and then you churn because there is no reason for you to exist. Which is where you hit a dead end.
Sorry, champ.

How you believe something:

1. ????
2. You exist
3. You exist, with the ability to believe
4. An untold number of interactions occur
5. You believe it

Come now, you can't seriously think you're going to solve the puzzle with a primate brain, do you?

AFOFN's don't come and go, they come and stay.
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>>518718478
>>i take everything jews do at face value
I've never trusted a jew in my life.
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>>518716729
Why does the atheist have a cross on his neck?
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>>518718548
>pinegap kike continues autistic screeching
pottery.
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>>518716729
Your first problem is falsely believing atheists are rational people.
They support trannies and niggers after all. No rational person could.
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>>518718381
Tpbp total atheist supremacy
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>>518716729
>yeah so people have believed in thousands of different gods since the dawn of time but the real one is the jewish god, because the jews told me so
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>>518718407
>*Gives your toddler leukemia*
Because he loves you! But realy its satan problem. But please dont ask why god created evil incarnate. For no reason at all!
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>>518718260
That's a retarded viewpoint.
Nothing about this world resolves existence without God.
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>>518718641
>5eyes shill anti-Christ posting supported by MSM propaganda
pottery.
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Nigger Faggot Nigger Faggot Kike Nigger Faggot. I'm just some 40yo goyim that doesn't believe in your super jew. You Americans are really fucking dumb. I never said a single globohomo thing. I simply said your religious belief is fucking retarded.
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>>518718704
This life is not for pleasure
it's for overcoming suffering
you are the suffering
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>>518716821
fpbp
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>>518718841
>Pinegap kike continues autistic screeching
lol
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>>518718878
The devil created the jews? So devil created jesus. Weird schizophrenic jew bullshit...
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>>518716729
Always loved the atheist fedora meme
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>>518718893
>>518716821
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>>518716729
How can you exist in this reality for more than 5 minutes and unironically still believe in magic
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The right-wing insisting it has to LARP religion or Western civilization collapses has become a lobotomy. Nothing you actually believe in hinges on the necessity of Jewish mythology.
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I am directly aware of information from outside of the known Universe.

I am directly aware of details regarding the creation of Earth.

I am directly aware of how Earth will be destroyed.

The stories from all religions on this world are mostly wrong.
Some details are correct.

Atheists are wrong on the subject of God's existence.

Atheists are correct that most religions are bullshit.

God is very real. The paper humans wrote down convoluted guidebooks to get people to obey the monarchy, is wrong.

So religion is wrong.
Atheists are wrong.

God is still real, and your existence in this Universe is purpose bound, and mechanistic.

I'll see you all when you arrive at the proper gate.

I'm waiting.
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>>518719000
Because retarded parents indoctrinated you by going with the societal pressure kf going to church.
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>>518716729
People do often like to make up copes like that when they don't believe in themselves enough to just come out and be who they really are inside. It's no secret.
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>>518716729
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>>518718963
>pilpul
hjahjahahah
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>>518716729
You can't honestly have me believe in a kike god while this happens.
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>>518716729
they're always fat too
ALWAYS
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>>518718970
>Always loved the atheist fedora meme
one of the most spiritually powerful memes of our lifetime.
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>>518718566
And yet you believe them when they say they hate Jewsus with 0 risk to themselves in doing so
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>>518719000
>>518719031
>>518719085
The only person kikes hate more than Hitler is Jesus
and it's for the same reasons.
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>>518719111
checked
Uncle Mustache on pagans is 11/10 keks
>>518719140
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>>518716729
>I fear death
>Now I will worship some magic thing that says I won't die
>See, now I get to live forever
>Checkmate atheists
Ok, if that helps you cope, I'm fine with it.
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>>518719170
>And yet you believe them when they say they hate Jewsus with 0 risk to themselves in doing so
Ye shall know them (you) by their (your) fruits kike
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>>518719219
Go to church goy! Otherwise ZOG collapses...
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>>518719219
>christianity is when you hate jews and are redpilled
You’re just proving my point.
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>>518719219
i don't understand though, isn't according to your lore Jesus is literally Jewish
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>>518719306
>I'm fine with it
>counter signals
lol
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>this was always a Christian board!!
t. MIGAboomer/Spic Fuentes gayper
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>puts gott mitt uns on beltbuckles
>Loses everything in 15 years
The retarded austrian painter is the best proof with christ you lose
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>>518719358
we
know
all
your
tricks
kike
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>>518719573
Yeah, we know this campaign is called christianity
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>>518719385
>>christianity is when you hate jews and are redpilled
based
>You’re just proving my point.
gif rel my brother in Christ.
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>>518716729
Is that John Popper? Didn't he threaten to rapekill somebody on the Howard retard show?
Isn't he dead? Or is he still getting away with it?
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>>518719692
Jesus is Jewish so how do you reckon with the idea that you automatically hate everyone in that race even though your best friend is Jewish
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>>518719692
Jewish mythology isn’t real and it’s enough to believe in right wing ideals for their own real life benefits. All of this is retarded, and if you told any priest or pastor on the planet about your opinion on jews, he’d pray for your soul.
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>>518719312
If I spit on you for your beliefs, would you cease to hold those beliefs to gain back my favor?
Fuck no, you'd double down on those beliefs and hate me.
What did it cost those kikes to spit on Christmutts?
Oh right, absolutely nothing because you're pathetic golem trained to worship weakness, losing and dying.
Wake me up when kikes actually use hard material power to end cuckstainity (never).
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Christcucks surrendered lol
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>>518719534
>kike scared of me
correct.
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>>518719464
>MIGAboomer
should probably stop trying to murder him if you want us to buy you support him.
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>>518719649
>Memeflag=nigger
there's no niggers on the internet
all memeflags are kikes.
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>>518719656
>Yeah, we know this campaign is called christianity
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>>518719984
>I spit on you for your beliefs
yes typical kike reaction to Christians.
see >>518719312
>>518719419
>i don't understand though, isn't according to your lore Jesus is literally Jewish
1) biblical jews have absolutely no relation to modern Ashkenazi
2) they killed Christ
>>518719772
>Jesus is Jewish so how do you reckon with the idea that you automatically hate everyone in that race even though your best friend is Jewish
see above
>>518719935
you're literally jewish.
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>>518720734
>Niggers go into the gas chambers first
not all
not all
not all
but most.
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>>518716729
The answer is neither creation in the Abrahamic ethos(tm) nor the antithesis of that being atheism. They've set it up in such a way that opposing jewish scriptures still forces you interact with the Christ-Zeit as in order to be an atheist you are required to understand and dedicate your life to disproving faith based jewish mind viruses.
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>>518720905
>pretends memeflags are niggers
>seethes about Ye and /qween_candace/
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>>518721055
>Abrahamic
100% of the time this word is used, it's by a kike.
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>>518720651
>no relation
... Aside from being literally Jewish? Jesus was a literal Jewish man, by every single account. So how do you justify hating a whole race of individuals who have their own unique opinions and perspectives? The greatest strength of religion should be how it brings the best out of people with good moral values, but the truth is people use it as a cudgel to act like the most venomous evil pieces of shit with colossal egos. And it's not religions fault, it's the fault of regular people who are so easily manipulated their personalities and beliefs are bent to whatever their media shows them.
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>>518721340
He was a Hebrew
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>>518721314
Would you like judaism and islam excluded?
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>believes universe came into being without intent
>which would mean there's no inherent meaning to existence
>doesn't sell everything they own and hire a fleet of meth hookers and OD on fent
van til was right, atheists are full of shit.
you know God exists, you're just mad at Him for making you short and fat.
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>>518721870
>Nigger lovers are enemies of america
you're a kike.
and all kike narratives are things you fucking disgusting kikes are actually bragging about.
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>>518717332
today is Opsgay.
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>>518721832
Mega cope. I create my own intent, and I do get high and fuck hookers all the time as well.
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>>518722239
what exactly do you get out of this exchange you're having with me right now?
why aren't you masturbating instead?
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>>518721556
He was born to a Jewish mother in a Jewish part of the world surrounded by Jewish colleagues, and the lesson should be this person I idolize and love so much is part of a group I despise; maybe I should recognize the fact that groups are comprised of individuals that should be judged as individuals. Right? ‘cus /pol/ culture is to instantly judge someone based off their group, while at the same time having tremendous angst for being treated the same way
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>>518722299
This is masturbation to me, I'm also actually jerking it to scat futa guro right now.
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>>518718550
existence isn't a byproduct of thought you stupid fuck.
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>>518717939
No, you’re just a tradcath LARPer who doesn’t actually believe in Christ, except when it’s convenient for you to derive a sense of superiority from it. If you actually believed, you’d simply believe, and you wouldn’t demean yourself with pointless internet arguments about it. My dad is a Christian and for the longest time I had no idea he even went to church on Sundays - I just assumed he was working. He never tries to make it anyone else’s business, or draw weird muh ontological proofs in the sand. He just follows Jesus word and believes because he believes, nothing else. Makes him 10x a truer Christian than your LARPing ass ever will be
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>>518716729
What if a universe exists for every possibility, and in one, a bunch of apes evolved who happen to have consciousness on a spinning rock with nothing coming after this life
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>>518722312
>oh vey goyim! fall for semitic semantic pilpul!
very compelling rabbi try calling us christcucks again.
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>>518720651
>playing dumb THIS aggressively
Concession accepted
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>>518716729
I'm euphoric atheist solely to make christkikes seethe.
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>>518722138
Start with Jewish hip hop executives kike
>>518722177
>today is Opsgay.
checked
>>518722312
>He was born to a Jewish mother in a Jewish part of the world surrounded by Jewish colleagues
And you are of the synagogue of Satan.
>>518722454
>No, you’re just a tradcath
I'm not Catholic.
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>>518722588
>Concession accepted
like all jewish victories,
it's entirely a figment of your imagination.
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>>518722625
>christkikes
you're a Scandi-commerical shill hired by Israel to anti-christ post.
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>>518722784
its really funny we made kikes start using VPNs
GOTCHA RIGHT IN THE WALLET HERSCHEL
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>>518721832
>Earth isnt a special creation of a jew wizard therefore nothing makes sense
No wonder majority kf your religion are shitskins
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>>518722822
>43 posts of pure jewoid seethe
Lool
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>>518722515
you're arguing with people that think the world is 7000 years old.
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>>518722955
>memeflag
>seething about Christ
>begging me to leave the battlefield to some disgusting rat-fink kike.
lol
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>>518721832
You’re here on a Sunday shitposting. What exactly has MUH MEANING done to enrich your quality of life? You have no heavenly ideals to conquer and assert your will on the universe like Alexander, just fart sniffing about having the “right” opinion.
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>>518722515
>le space
fucking faggots
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>>518716729
even before I learned about evolution as kid I noticed some animals like cats and dogs share features with humans (ie they have four arms/legs, eyes, nose, mouth etc) and some like birds and fish are further but still have some commonalities (still have two eyes etc) and you can keep doing this with all creatures

I'm not saying there's no greater spiritual meaning to life but at least it's obvious the features in animals came from common ancestors and split off at some point
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>>518722738
So you’re a Protestant LARPer. It doesn’t change anything. Analyse your own behaviour itt and ask yourself if you’re doing it out of actual faith or simply to create a false sense of superiority in yourself, one that you’re unable to draw from other parts of your life
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>>518723013
Dunking on christcucks is safe and effective.
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>>518722518
How is jesus being jewish a bad thing
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>>518721832
>>518723057
If you know God exists, why aren’t you smiting the satanic jewish pedophiles in a holy war?
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>>518723079
>le obviously ironic shitposting to prented to be retarded.
Go back, kiddo.
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>>518723171
Its a loser faggot who lashes out on the internet because IRL no one gives a shit about his religious hangups
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>>518718641
>Article title doesn't specify a religion
>The image attacks Christianity
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>>518722781
Hey look, it's NOT-Yahweh (the jewish foreskin eating tribal war god) punishing jews!!
Thanks for making my point for me.
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>>518723171
>So you’re a Protestant LARPer
nah
>>518723172
>Dunking on christcucks is safe and effective.
doesn't seem too safe kike
>>518723240
>Go back, kiddo.
hey sly you stupid fucking nigger.
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>>518723280
And? The article is implying that anyone who believes in some kind of religion including norse paganism is stupid
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>>518716729
Be grateful God let you see behind the veil. Not everyone can actually do it, although the glory and goodness of God should lead man to faith and repentance. Unfortunately God has to do all the work for us because we are stupid.
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it really doesn't matter if there is a god, because they obviously do not give a shit about anything.
Need a creator? Why not aliens?
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>>518716729
>believe in a badly written jewish story about a magical narcissist sky demon who hates foreskins.
Any religion beyond basic animism + sun worship is heresy.
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>>518723501
>worshipping a ball of plasma
You're stupid
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>>518723430
>space am not reel guise dur christ am king jew!
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>>518722898
yeah that's not what i said or implied.
i'll lay it out in a more syllogistic structure:
p1: if the universe was not created with intent (by a personal moral Creator) then objective moral values and duties do not exist.
p2: if objective moral values do not exist, then no action or lifestyle can be inherently right or wrong.
p3: if no action or lifestyle can be inherently right or wrong, then there is no moral distinction between altruistic professions (being a doctor) and other professions (being a cannibalistic rapist)
c: therefore, if atheism is true, loud fart noise.
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>>518723202
the anomie atheism brings is a bigger threat than any machination of the jews
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>>518723573
Post eyes religiouscuck
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>>518723437
And yet the only religion that athiests ever attack is Christianity. Curious!
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>>518723464
extra terrestrials would be contingent entities
the creator of space/time needs to exist necessarily and logically prior to space/time in order to create space/time
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This is you
You people are fedora tipping atheists with crosses now, you inherited all their reddit tier arguments
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>>518723586
>if the universe was not created with intent (by a personal moral Creator) then objective moral values and duties do not exist.
... why
Doing good things feels good in your brain, people watch videos of like animal rescues and stuff because seeing good feels good. That's not religion that's just basic human expression, in a normal healthy society. Your views are very nihilistic and ego-driven, the only reason good things happen is because of what I believe in basically. It's frankly retarded
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>>518723723
Uhm chud, we don't welcome antisemites in the atheism community. You nazis do not belong here.
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>>518723946
Atheists are mostly the younger generation and the younger generation are the biggest critics of Israel, to the point where Netanyahu is openly admitting he is at war with them and their perspectives of Jews
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>>518723834
sounds like special pleading, if things need to have a cause, then what made your god?
If your god doesn't need a cause, then everything doesn't need a cause.
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>>518723834
Why does a creator need to exist for a theoretical model? Just because the process is concealed/not understood does not at all equate to divine creation
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>>518724325
Exactly. There is no god or afterlife.
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>>518723918
>Doing good things feels good in your brain
sure, helping an old lady cross the street can make you feel good about yourself, but what about DRINKING THE BLOOD OF YOUR ENEMY FROM A CUP MADE FROM HIS SKUUUULLL??
things like vengeance, tribal loyalty (where you unhuman others) and asserting dominance are just as innate to the human experience as empathy and altruism.
if moral instincts are just neurological echoes of evolutionary survival strategies, then why ought one impulse be called "good" and another "evil?"
if there's no transcendent moral standard, no creator whose nature grounds goodness, then all you're left with is personal preference and everchanging social convention.
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>>518716729
been euphoria maxxing my whole life.
get on my level.
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>>518724374
read arthur schopenhauer's essay "On religion".
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>>518724363
what makes you so certain?
>no p-prooooof
nah bitch, you're in "strong atheist" mode and just made a knowledge claim, can't hide behind agnosticism now.
>>518724325
i'm not saying "we don't know, therefore God"
i'm saying any explanation of the origin of space/time must account for the necessary preconditions of intelligibility, and impersonal contingent processes can't do that.
contingent entities (like ayy lmaos, humans, or quantum fields) depend on something else for existence, they can't explain the totality of being, they presuppose it.
space and time themselves are not eternal or self-explanatory. they had a beginning (as big bang cosmology affirms) which means they are not necessary, they could have been otherwise or not existed.
therefore, whatever caused space/time must be non-contingent (necessary) and must exist logically (not temporally) prior to the physical universe.

only a personal, rational mind can account for the origin of rationality, order, and moral law, all of which we rely on to do science or ethics.
so it's about recognizing that without a necessary personal creator, the entire model floats on unjustified assumptions rather than just plugging god into a gap.
you can build a theoretical model without invoking God, but you can't account for the very possibility of building models at all without Him.
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>>518724775
don't just ignore my reply.
At least put some effort into defending your position or I'm leaving the thread.
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>>518716821
Fpbp, as usual
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>>518724763
his pessimism also underscores my point. if morality is just a byproduct of evolutionary wiring or cultural conditioning, then there's no ultimate "ought" only what feels good or serves survival.

schopenhauer himself wrestled with the tension between moral intuition and metaphysical despair. he admired compassion but couldn't ground it in anything transcendent.
that's the dilemma.
you can reject divine grounding, but then you're left trying to explain why cruelty is wrong without appealing to anything beyond human preferences.
without a transcendent source, morality collapses into taste, power, or utility, not moral truth.
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>>518724374
basically it's society, society wouldn't exist if those impulses were still so prevalent. you reap the rewards of society so you're pressured to stay good or be punished. and good natures are baked into our upbringings, we're taught doing bad is bad. religion played a role in instilling these natures but at this point it's just a part of the human condition now, completely non-religious households are still brought up on good values. and it's just how human brains are, we see a video of a guy climbing up 10 stories to save a cat from a burning building we cheer for it meanwhile someone throwing puppies into a river invokes a horrible feeling in your gut; and if you don't have those feelings, there's probably something fundamentally broken in your brain those people are not the norm now.
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>>518723573
you're so fat sly
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>>518723736
>Your tinfoil buttplug is showing
lol
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>>518725070
There are philosophys outside of be nice or you go to hell, pick any damn one.
For me, it's the golden rule.
I don't need god for that.

You've said this multiple times, yet athiests don't run around murdering people they disagree with and dislike, so evidently there isn't much to struggle over.
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>>518724775
Can God be defined and have that definition support a singular field of applied science? God is a placeholder for the theoretical and continues to be pushed back further down the chain of events which resulted in creation.
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>>518724938
sorry, i'm juggling a lot of posts
>>518724148
>what caused god xd
oh, this was the amazing reply you wanted me to engage with.

contingent things require causes, necessary things do not.
God, by definition, is necessary, the uncaused cause, the foundation of all being.
asking "what caused god" is like asdking "what's north of the north pole"
>why can't space/time be necessary then?
because space and time are contingent, they began to exist, they change, and they depend on conditions outside themselves.
they're not self-existent, they're not eternal, they're not logically necessary.
i could've ended this post with a joke about frogs but i didn't, because i made a choice, because contingent beings can do that.

on to the leaf.
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I also want to just state outright there is no objective morality from religion, you see all kinds of different religions, and branches of religions.
And even plenty of the religious that will cop out of actually following what is in their religion.
So it really is subjective, by definition regardless of how devout you claim to be.
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>>518725617
you have not demonstrated logically why god doesn't need a cause, nor have you demonstrated that time needs a cause, or that space, as a property of distance needs a cause.
You seem very confused.
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>>518725162
you're describing how moral behavior is incentivized by society, and i agree.
social pressure and upbringing shape behavior. but that's not the topic.

why should we call one impulse "good" and another "evil" if both are equally natural?
you say we cheer for the man saving the cat and recoil at cruely, but that's just describing how we feel and not why those feelings are morally authoritative.
if morality is just a product of evolution and social conditioning, then it's not objective (real) it's adaptive. and if it's adaptive, then it's contingent, and if it's contingent, then it can (and will) change. which means there's no ultimate "ought," only what works for now.

but no one lives that way. we don't say "throwing puppies into a river is wrong FOR ME." we say it's wrong, period.
that kind of moral judgment only makes sense if there's a standard outside of us, something transcendent and unchanging, something that doesn't evolve with culture or brain chemistry.

so yes, society teaches us values, but unless those values are grounded in something greater than society they're just preferences with power.
and if that's all morality is, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught.
>>518725772
>there is no objective morality from religion, you see all kinds of different religions
you're conflating ontology with epistemology.
the fact that people disagree about a thing doesn't negate the thing's existence.
it's like saying gravity isn't real because people used to believe in geocentrism.
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>>518726090
you've disproven all religions now???
holy shit.
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>>518725920
i actually have demonstrated all of those things but i don't feel like repeating myself if you're just going to pretend i haven't touched on them instead of addressing my reasoning.
scroll up or shut up.
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>>518726385
explain.
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>>518723886
that's literally me.
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>>518716729
I don't believe that, but I don't believe your holy book is the word of god either. Fuck yourself with your religion.
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>>518723563
>Worshipping a jewish book
You're suicidal
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>>518723689
that's a fat ex-military shill from twitter named Sly_Sparkane.
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>>518726630
why not?
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>>518726487
Look up the definition of objective.
Your argument is for subjective morality, from your religion, not objective.
Or objective morality from ALL religions.
Pick one you stupid fuck.
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>>518716729
no, man. we took shrooms, dude.
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Is it possible for a man to understand God thoughbeit
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>>518726787
objective morality (an ontological position) means moral truths are valid and binding regardless of human minds.
pointing out that there are disagreements is utterly irrelevant.
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>>518716729
>"You don't get it WE ARE ALL SPECIAL and you should accept your shitty lot in life while others have no burdens because it all pays off AFTER you die"
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They will mindbend and act like spoilt children as much as it takes to maintain their chosen delusions.
But it is the fact that they can’t
A) shut up with their boring lack of knowledge/understanding
B) and just fuck off
that is really tiresome.
Okay do your cult, but stop bothering your betters. I’m sure that the jews have made websites for you to discuss star trek on and the latest condescensions from the likes of Brian ‘Multiple’ Cox and other unbearable adult children who lead you down the garden path. You don’t have to stalk everyone else trying to police them like mad ass trannies.
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>>518727011
A rock as long as you know what a rock is the ontological being rocko who came from his black dad bull balls and became wwf universal champion

>>518727177
Fix your mess if you know what's wrong it
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>>518726725
Not a single book on earth is the word of the creator of the universe, if there is one. Like I don't know the answers but neither do you.
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>>518727011
Then by the english definition of the word subjective, you've argued a case for subjective morality.
congratulations!
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>>518727527
how do you know i don't know, and how do you know the bible isn't divine revelation?
>>518727554
you're retarded dude.
https://iep.utm.edu/objectiv/
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>>518727724
How do you know I'm not God?
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>>518727724
still subjective.
Look up the definition of subjective.
You said it doesn't matter that people have different subjective religions, yours is the objectively correct one.
Okay, so you disproved all other religions??? When?
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>>518723447
Man, why did he let me see behind it? Knowledge is pain.. i hate it here
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>>518716729
Why is he wearing a cross
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>>518728336
>You said it doesn't matter that people have different subjective religions, yours is the objectively correct one.
where did i state this?

you are so very very confused.
let's regroup here.

you're conflating two distinct claims.
>people disagree about moral or religious claims (epistemological)
>whether those claims have objective truth value (ontological)
i have been constantly arguing for the latter and the former has no bearing on the latter.
"objective morality" (aka moral realism) is the idea that moral claims are either true or false regardless of what anyone believes.
just like mathematical truths. you can believe 2+2=5 under peano arithmetic but i'd say you'd be wrong. our disagreement doesn't erase reality.



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