Hello Anons, continuation of an earlier thread where we discuss possibility that Notre Dame and Chartres, might have been built by old pagan builders who carried Odinic symbols and sacred geometryIt feels like the old gods are still carved into the stones of Europe ..
The floor mosaic seems to echo the Odal rune, and similar symbols appear carved into the woodwork, floors, and stone throughout the cathedralIs this why (((they))) burned it down?
Another Odal rune>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Othala
>>518717990>>518718052>>518718095doodleniggers =/= odinists
>Chartres cathedralOdin’s ravens, Huginn and Muninn, sharing the mead of wisdom
>>518717990They adapted the Triskelion to represent the Holy Trinity.In Celtic usage it means Past Present Future or the Triple Goddess.In Norse usage it means First Second Third, the kings on thrones in the Gylfaginning
>>518718131those shapes are literally carved Odal runes. there are also figures of demons and creatures from pre-Christian European mythologies on older cathedrals
>>518718360intredasting
>>518717990>>518718052>>518718095>>518718137>Hon hon hon le faggette oui oui guillotine
>>518718379all doodleniggers do is see doodles, and copy doodles. most people are fucking retarded, barely lived a few decades, and know nothing. they are doodle niggers. thats all.
>>518718577Shut up slavic slave plantation monkey.
>>518717990Umm yes? Your ancestors converted and then started being civilized. We all knew it.
>>518718577masonic brotherhoods that united under the craft of builders kept their secrets for generationscould be that their square and compasses symbol was a co-opted form of the othala rune, idk
>>518718983>muh secret fucking doodlespeople are fucking retarded. fuck your doodles
>>518718856now show the same progression in Africa
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>>518717990Pagan just means "rural". It was used by roman urbanites to mock the more primitive forms of worship outside of rome.Odin is the norvegr way of pronouncing "Ghodan", the proto indo european root word for God. The souvegr way to pronounce it was "Wotan".There is no difference between paganism and christianity. It's the same religion, just updated to include jesus christ as an avatar of God and unified under the "universal" (catholic) roman priesthood. This is why all the rituals and holidays are identical, including the worship of astara (goddess of spring, symbolized with rabbits and eggs) during easter and the use of the sacrificial tree during christmas. There was no "forced conversion". It's just the natural transformation from having thousands of years of semi-isolated communities oral traditions being mushed together and reformed into a standardized and written tradition, which caused the previously "living" lore to become static in the form of the bible, which also required cutting out of undesirable or incompatible content. Christianity spent essentially the first 600 years trying to come up with a universal canon that was acceptable to everyone in northern europe. The judean branch had completely died out by then due to the extinction of all judeans (jews are frauds from babylon -> hence babylonian talmud). Subsequently there is no "judeochistianity", an invention of the 1970's by US jews. There is only pagan christianity of roman standard.
>>518719632Wodanaz is not equivalent to God.The modern German cognate for Odin is Wut [rage].Odin, id est furor. Nothing to do with theonymic categorization of God.
>>518719139Good thread. You got anymore pics of Norse symbols in cathedrals?
>catholocism is just rebranded paganismcongrats on your breakthrough
Catholics of that era:>"examine our triskelion here, to us it's wonderful artistic symbol recalling the trinity, but the northmen also used it unaware of this. Just look at how our Lord's faith was planted dormant even in the savage cultures so that one day he would reclaim his men when the fruits of the true religion blossomed, all their tarnished ways and treasures cleaned and blessed and made to serve the Lord again. God has prepared the way for the salvation of us all down to the smallest detail in the hearts of man, remember that when you are feeling lost, my friend...post-protestant "pagans" online in our own era:>"this is a odin symbol! you can tell cause its the same thing! that means this church was pagan like me and the fucking christcucks stole it! [looks over to his altar which contains a "relic of odin" in the form of a rock he found at the beach, and a funcopop of disney's thor. his poster of a shirtless man with a long beard has curled down towards his candles and will soon burn, but paganon is unconcerned and returns to his musings]. "fucking christcucks don't believe me!? you can see the symbol right there though! its not gona be anything else! they don't believe me cause they're dumb just like they don't believe in flat Earth! [rocks in chair saying "fucking cuck" for 2 minutes straight]. "we made everything" he says, and he blinks.
>>518720836Christcucks in 1 AD>please massa, gib us salvation for GAWD HALLELUJAH HOSSANA deliver us from the Roman gentilesChristcucks in 2025>george floyd was a saint and he can supplex my daughter
you are absolutely retarded
>>518719632Dangerously based and anti-semitic
>>518721372Another reddit jeet under a foreign flag defiling the history and culture of his host nation.
>>518721969You worship an anorexic kike.Watch your filthy mouth slave.
>>518722107You are an indian man, stop trying to think and go feed hanuman a banana.
>>518722307Your mother is an indian man christcuck.
can someone tell me if this thread is actually true or just schizophrenia?
>>518717990How many of u were shipped off to gaza once your masters realized this isnt consensus cracking and we still call u children of the devil?Dont mourn for them, think of it as a one way trip back to your true homeland to meet your father.
>>518717990Yea.... but there's like, no chance, that Odin is actually the All Father and Lord God........?
>>518722592doesnt have to be, its what he represents, the chief god of the germani,
>>518718856Don't tell Varg left was built by the most swarthy looking pre-indoeuropean spaniards you could imagine.
>>518717990Odinists were so prevalent and so careful about preserving their culture that it took Christian monks to write down literally everything we know about Norse mythology hundreds and hundreds of years later, which had been abandoned as a coherent organized belief system for hundreds of years before the conversions even happened.
>>518722830Ethnic religions have no reason for proselytization or propaganda.Hence why all Abrahamic cults are bibliolatrical.And no ethnic religion is.
>>518718379There are not really Norse "demons" to my memory, calling some of the creatures from Norse myth demons was a later affectation.Also Scandinavians do not have the copyright on corvids.
>>518722931It is not like Pagans didn't used other means to deculturize other nations.Romans with the excuse of >your deity is the same as mine so you must worship it using mine's name, but hey, they are both the same (happy face) (happy face)Erased most of Celtic, Iberian, Punic, Berber, Balkanic, etc., pantheons.Christians at least recorded Pagan cults and tried to separate it from their own instead of forcing you to forget your own pantheon with the excuse of "all gods are le same"
>>518722830>Christian monkthose monks were ethnically german/nordic and clearly had an affinity of their own ancestry, besides the christianity of that time and region was completely different than it would be latermore pagan if you will
>>518722375Saar, your own mother is this, saar! You have been insulted now again! Do not wait!>>518722429It's reddi schizo research. They just slam like-detail with like-detail and call it hidden knowledge because they feel inferior when confronted with the vastness of history and can't read anything but catlady memes. You could start a story about how all really big rocks used to be buildings and then they melted from a space weapon and they would eventually believe it and build lore around it randomly and call it "researching" -and that's not just any template example either, its an actual reddit conspiracy theory that they already do believe.>a thing that looks the same means it is the same, means all of this other stuff i could read about why its not the same is just lies by aliens who want to fool me!
>>518723188>You could start a story about how all really big rocks used to be buildings and then they melted from a space weapon and they would eventually believe it and build lore around it randomly and call it "researching" -and that's not just any template example either, its an actual reddit conspiracy theory that they already do believe.kek thanks
>>518718052>"symbolizes transmission between ancestors and descendants"interesting how it looks like a square version of a double helix section.
there is no such thing as an odinist, you just distorted a long dead religion to use it as foil against christianitybecause new atheist lost so hard to their own success
>>518719104>Something can't be a net positive influence if it can't make monkeys into humans I guess clean water crop rotation and internal combination engines are also some kind of psyop, because you can give those to Africans and they waste them too.
>>518717990I hate symbol schizos so much. Pretty much every retarded schizotheory starts with someone seeing a symbol and "ahh I'm going insane". The curtain is fucking red.
>>518723148Rome literally adopted cults from wherever.The patron goddess of Roman cavalry was Epona. A Celtic goddess.Lay off the drugs.
>>518723405it actually is all connected. it just takes time to put things together reliably. some suspected connections fall off after a while, but eventually quite a few things continue sticking together and start forming a beginning of coherence.
>>518723405Ok normie keep living in your fairytale
>>518723471The only reason we remember Celtic pantheon is because Christian monks from Ireland recorded it, as well Celtic myths during Early Middle Ages.The few we know about Spanish paganism from Cantabrians, Asturians, Basques and Gallicians comes from St. Isidore of Seville (once again and Early Medieval Christian Monk) and XVIII century Jesuit antropologists.We have NOTHING about pre-Roman pantheons from Spain, Balkans, Gaul, Africa, etc., from Roman writers.Romans were masters at erasing entire cultures.The very origins of Jewish diaspora in Europe was caused because Jews refused over and over to worship Jupiter. Before Roman conquest of Judea, Judaism was another ethnic-religious community exclusive from Levant and Egypt, as many other ethnic cults of the region such as the Assyrian, Persian, Hellenic, etc.
>>518718052>The Owls are not what they seem.
>>518723669Says the guy worshiping Marvel comic book characters
>>518723279You don't need to bring up that Afro-Asiatic religion every time you mention Odin.
>>518723183>Christians are exclusively and single handedly responsible for preserving and resurrecting all our knowledge about the Norse traditions in the modern world with extremely painstaking and careful research, but they're not really Christian because they're German.What's your favorite verse from the Eddas and why?
>>518723731>We have NOTHING about pre-Roman pantheons from Spain, Balkans, Gaul, Africa, etc., from Roman writers.Are you kidding my nigger?
>odin>JesusAll fictional characters that your stupid ancestors believe
>>518717990>>518718052>>518718095>>518718137This is absolutely true. For the same reason the Greeks eventually accepted Christianity, Europeans did as well. The reason is that it unified a previously fractured belief system, so rather than multiple gods being worshipped individually, it was understood they were all aspects of the ONE God above.It did not wipe out the imagery and symbolism of our history. Actually the opposite, it preserved it in a way that was logical, as you've discovered.Even the Holy days are lifted and repurposed.
>>518722931If Europe wasn't 99% the same religion when the Muslims arrived it would have been shortly after. You were always going to get something functionally identical to medieval Christianity whether it called itself the church of Balder or the imperial cult of sol Invictus. The structure of a winning religion is fixed.
>>518723852Nope. Go and read Roman writers.Tacitus was the only one I could name since he did a shitty try to record German stuff, and he did it terribly job because most of the deities he named didn't even exist by the time of Charlemagne, whose monks did a massive work at recording the Pagan customs of Gallo-romans and Germans.Same for Welsh monks who recorded Briton paganism that later on did birth Arthurian myths.Again, Romans were masters at erasing cultures with the excuse of ecumenism.
>>518723753Underrated
>>518723863Pattern recognition annihilated the Atheioid cult.
>>518724161>If Europe wasn't 99% the same religion when the Muslims arrived it would have been shortly after.China and India dont exist.
>>518723617The Long Road to Coherence: I think therefore it must be what I think it is and I can prove it!By Researcher Anon
>>518724219China and India do not in fact exist what's your point.
>>518724193Nigger. We get all our knowledge from Silius Italicus, Strabo, Ptolemy, etc.What drugs are you on?
>>518724050or more cynically an elite looking to unify different peoples lifted parts of their different religions and combined them into something inorganic and then forced it on the people through bullshit stories designed to link their gods to this new system.
>>518717990This has been a dirty secret of Catholicism for a while. Christians in modern day take credit for pagan scientific discoveries too. It's a we wuzzing syndrome.
>>518724301None of them left a recorded work about other cultures religions. Not even about the customs. Strabo is even worse because the fucker gives bad geographical descriptions.Again, the main sources about Paganism come from Medieval Christian Monks. Had it been for Romans nobody would know anything about other cultures pantheons.
>>518724337Yeah, I can see that. In fact I think that's the likely response of an elite trying to get ahead of the concept I described- thus controlling it. So I believe you are correct, and so am I. And furthermore, I can see motions to destroy it all using their control of Christianity. IE: >Those are pagan symbols you can't use that>Christmas is pagan idolotry, you can't celebrate it
>>518723765So it's preferable to worship the king of the Jews.>Yes, I am called King of the Niggers>Huh? I'm not a nigger myself, what a ridiculous notion.
>>518724509What medieval cuck recorded Endovelico, Nabia, Trebaruna, etc?
>>518717990they were gothics and shiet?
>>518724640None and we know about him because of archeology, not because of Roman records.But since you mention it.It was St. Isidore of Seville who recorded in his Etymologies one of the most important myths of Galician culture, that of the king Briga that conquered the peninsula and stablished a tower from were his grand-son, Mil, saw Ireland and sailed there with the Milesians to conquer it; the very same king called Breogan by Irish in the recorded by monks Lebor Gabála Érenn, the most important book about Celtic mythology.And not counting Isidore's mention and description about the Indal, a good luck symbol from Andalucia dating back to Neolithic era. Or other medieval monks works about the genealogy of pre-Roman heroes of Spain such as the ones that sailed to Sardinia to conquer it.Once again, had it been for Romans, we had know absolutely nothing about Celts and many other pantheons.
>tfw you will live long enough to see neopets-pagans claim that they own Notre Dame and Chartres "cause of the symbols!" while they protest the french government for ownership and play battle eachother in the streets with plastic halloween axes wearing capes while trying to forget about their own mortality.
>>518725193I concede. No more arguments.
>>518717990First of all, Norse mythology was just a rip off of ChristianitySecond, no Christians built it, jew
>>518724217Thor is a tranny nigger so who cares
>>518723765r/Atheism
>>518717990I read the big columns and arched ceilings were built to mimic the forest so that people inside felt like they were in a forest of stone.
>>518718379>those shapes are literally carved Odal runes. there are also figures of demons and creatures from pre-Christian European mythologies on older cathedralsCatholicism in the art has lots of stuff that's from the pre-Christian era; winged baby angels (putti) for example. They knew it and didn't mind because it wasn't theological, just art.
>>518719632Thank you for giving me another connection between Canaan, Norse, and Egyptian to prove they are all Satan leading people away from Christ
>>518718856We were civilised long before you. You filthy heeb
Pagans are more fun anyway than a buncha choirboy castrati. La la lujah lala lujah
>>518719632>Odin is the norvegr way of pronouncing "Ghodan", the proto indo european root word for God. The souvegr way to pronounce it was "Wotan"."Godan" is the Lombard name for the god named Oden in Scandinavia. It is not a generic name for "god".
>>518724577>Canaanite and Kazarian child sacrifice cults start calling themselves "jews" >That's legitimate and if you follow Jesus you become one of them, even though they, themselves, killed JesusSo if a bunch of mongolians started calling themselves the "real" Odin priests I should hold you to the same standard lol
>>518722830Yet, even hundreds of years after their heyday and the last great viking battle, in the depths of christian Europe, people still told their children the eddas and Odin's wisdom's..... what's that tell you?
>>518730265>people still told their children the eddas and Odin's wisdom's.....A Christian knight is the only reason they survived past 1200, and Christian monks are the only reason they ever left hyper obscurity.You know who Odin is because of the sentimentality of a Christian hermit.
>>518717990Norman temples, cathedrals, churches, etc... is all the same, this is why is called gothic architecture, a mix of graeco-roman, germanic and christian symbolism, more reasons to follow christianity since it is the sucessor of both, it kind become redundant too.
>>518730265They told Roman and Greek mythos too, but they are still christians, they just liked the histories, same goes to the bible or christianity in general, even Hebrew history become famous too, and yes, they understand perfectly that their ancestors followed other gods and are pagans, despite this they don't see reasons to larp.
