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Need some sharks to put them on
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>>518771913
Idgi
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>>518771913
Hide this from the Jews they will take it away from you and give it to DARPA
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>>518771913
You won't do shit loser.
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>>518771913
hory fuk
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Oh my god is laser anon back
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>>518771913
I want to play with it BUT I WON'T WEAR EYE PROTECTION I HATE IT. I will bounce the laser off mirrors with 45 degree angles to travel all through the house.
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>>518771913
>we got laser guns before gta vi
its ovyr
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>>518772084
That guy was a fucking moron
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Looks very useful (yet dangerous) for DIY projects.
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>>518771913
Lazer anon is back
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>>518771913
Once laser sniper rifles that can lobotomise at a mile before you can flinch are invented it's joever
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>>518771913
A gun is still way more dangerous and longer ranged

Lasers don’t go one forever especially not in air
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>>518771913
thats extremely illegal and will permanently blind anyone in the same room
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>>518772355
>useful for diy projects
Useful where? Destroy It Yourself?
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I remember the original laser anon guy. He ended up shooting two chugs in Alaska.
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>>518772344
This.

>>518771913
>>518771966
You've already melted your chink shit oend
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>>518772845
Again in English José
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>>518771913
where is that from ?
It's interesting it seems to have a small green laser for aiming and maybe IR for the main one
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>>518772666
>Destroy It Yourself
Gone one, Satan.
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SKY OY
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>>518772344
kys fednigger
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>>518772639
Not illegal just extremely dangerous.
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>>518772567
>Every time an easily acquired weapon that isnt a gun is demonstrated
>uhh dats not a guuuuun
>Every time a gun is posted
>Ughfghghgn I can't get a guuuuun
>Every time a home made gun is posted
>nuhhhhhhh

Holy shit would you shut the fuck up. All weapon posting is based. All weapon ownership is good.
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>>518773100
Hope you aren't planning on using the plastic chinesium "safety" glasses with that laser.
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>>518771913
Yeah but jewish space lasers are totally impossible goy
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>>518773100
Lasers need thousands of watts of beam power minimum to be dangerous

Eye damage is another topic but you can’t kill anyone by poking small holes in their retina

Lasers are also energy inefficient. So you need several times more impur electrical power then your beam.
So the power requirements of a deadly laser are really extreme. So extreme that military engineers want small nuclear reactors on trucks because a Diesel engine could never cut it. As in hundreds of horsepower isn’t even enough to make a laser weapon.

Lasers are also useless against missiles. Missiles come in way too fast, laser damage is inverse of distance, and they need a lot of time to dig through a target. Assuming the optics and tracking managees to keep it in the exact same spot. Missiles can also be armored against lasers. Ranging from ablative to refractory to mirrors. Yes mirrors do work. You can either use regular metal which divides the damage by 20, and means you can get way closer before the laser starts digging in, or, use specifically made dielectric mirrors that bounce off basically 100% of the laser. But those need to be custom made
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>>518773100
wouldn't an engraving laser be focused at very close range only ?
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>>518772954
>>518772845
Chink shit lens is meltedo
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>>518773428
>Eye damage is another topic but you can’t kill anyone by poking small holes in their retina
you can disable them permanently
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>>518773224
Lasers just blind everyone and kill no one they’re shit weapons

You should get guns, why are you complaining about people, and I quote you, saying ">>518773224" ?
>>Ughfghghgn I can't get a guuuuun

Guns are much better weapons than lasers, sorry if reality offends you
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Laser is fake and gay
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>>518773503
>Lasers just blind everyone
that's enough for me, the threat will stop
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>>518771913
put it on a drone and give it that eye tracking shit now
to hunt...deer...
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>>518772639
Definitely not.
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>>518773555
What are you up to, anon...?
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>>518773461
Lasers have beam quality, then are diffraction limited

All lasers spread over distance, and having a wider laser beam helps them stay small for a longer distance. That’s why space laser concepts all have like 5 or 10 meter wide mirrors to shoot the laser.


As for an engraving laser, it’s probably focused very close. But it’s likely focussed by a lens, and you can remove it. If you beam quality factor M2 is good, and it the laser is high powered then you still have a dangerous laser beam

Check out styropyro on youtube. Especially videos where he does exactly this and modifies engraving or tattoo removal lasers


Fun fact: militaries experimenting with lasers literally just duct tape together a dozen or so industrial cutting lasers into one mirror, that’s pretty much how all the experimental military laser systems are made
Literal duct taped off the shelf industrial components
They’re not great
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>>518771966
Impressive
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>>518773503
>the enemy now has a blind zogbot to take care of and that is unable to fight you anymore
why is that shit ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kleidion
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>>518773653
nothing, it's speculative SF work
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This is useful for taking down drones
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>>518773428
You can kill them you stupid faggot nigger retard
A blind man is a dead man
Fucking frogs are beyond retarded
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>>518771913
wut
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>>518773720
That's essentially the new Jewish anti drone system. A dozen or so lasers with shared target acquisition.
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>>518773502
>you can disable them permanently
It depends

Lasers blind you where they were in your field or vision. If you stare right at a light source it will create a hole at the center of the vision and you’re basically blind.

But if you remember not to look at it or close your eyes you will likely just a blind spot somewhere in your peripheral vision

If lasers ever become commonplace on the battlefield I assume most soldiers will be walking around with VR headsets and IR + visual cameras


Laser weapons and blinding weapons are also banned by the Geneva convention, they have the same status as chemical weapons and people haven’t been using these either even though they could

Most banned weapons have pretty mediocre efficacy at actually being weapons while making war way worse for those who fight it

Very powerful lasers fueled by nuclear reactors on ships can be useful as weapons, however as I mentioned missiles can be armored and missiles will always win against lasers. So a laser CIWS might at best be effective against missiles never designed to go up against lasers. But it’s a simple refit.

Lastly, infra red lasers can be used to suppress and blind infra red sensors and seekers.
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>>518771913
Quuueesssstion: Say you strap someone down and let this thing work it's way through their head.

Would it cauterize the wound, allowing for a very small scar hidden by hair, and leaving the victim perfectly alive yet retarded?
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>>518773704
I know of basil the Chad but again lasers are banned like chemical weapons as blinding weapons

And I expect this ban to hole because like chemical weapons; they’re only mediocre at winning but really annoying and shitty to deal with
And both sides would use them making it worse for both sides
Countries at war are already falling behind countries not at war due to the cost of material lost during the war, but that would just make it even more expensive for both sides which is against both of the nation’s interests.

>>518773751
I’m saying you’re as likely to blind your own troops or bystanders than the enemy

Plus most eye damage they cause is not blindness but just dark spots in the peripheral vision

Things like landlines and air burst munition already do the doctrine you want way better
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>>518773954
It would create a lot of smoke and take a long time

Anything living is some of the most resistant laser material

Fruits, plants full of water, animals. Really laser resistant.

You would get a burn, then cells would explode, create steam and smoke. The smoke would stop the laser. It creates a smoke jet aimed at the laser that the laser has to go through. Smoke works against laser because small particles can cool off extremely quickly. It’s almost impossible to heat up smoke. And if the smoke aerosols do get hot they’re carried away anyways.

Now don’t get be wrong it is slow but the laser would still get through. It would leave a pretty nasty cooked wound. Depending on the size of the wound it is probably too big to seal the inside and fluids like brain fluid would leak out.

Also weird prompt
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>>518773954
Yes, yes, yes, no.
They would not be retarded. They would suffer temporary loss of function, and regain it over time as the brain rewires around it. The affected area is too small.
Unless we're talking all the way through, in which case lol, water. Get fucked.
>he's never read about lobotomies
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>>518774007
this amount of damage control works to further the use of the weapon instead of to prevent it
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>>518774160

Nice shiny F-22 they got there hmmm
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>>518771913
RIP that guys eyesight
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>>518774221
>They would not be retarded
Someone got u already huh
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>>518774281

Hmmmm fancy mirrors
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>>518771913
Where does one buy this amazing tool?
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>>518771913
Whats the range on that?
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>>518772344
He was a very smart guy, with a lack of discretion.
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>>518773659
This guy gets it.
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>>518772344
Doesn't mean his lasers weren't cool
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>>518772639
It’s not illegal. It is dangerous and you need safety goggles.
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>>518774281
>Nice shiny F-22 they got there hmmm
Ironically enough below the coating most of the f35 is made out of aluminum which is the most reflective material in nature in front of silver and gold

However aluminum had a low melting point and wouldn’t do too well against a laser unless actively cooled. If a plane flies slowly the airflow over the winds would provide some cooling though. So a plane isn’t laser proof but isn’t super vulnerable either. for the laser in question. Because dielectric mirrors can only bounce a single wavelength. Thankfully lasers are a single wavelength. But it means you need to manufacture the mirror for a specific target laser. The damage depends on the laser strength and distance. I would expect planes to be relatively immune to any laser that is small enough to be put on a ground vehicle maybe after 10 Km range which is very small for a plane.

Also cockpits are currently completely unprotected, lasers have been used to mess with pilots. However a pilot could just roll the aircraft so that his cockpit isn’t exposed.

Anyways planes literally fight beyond visual range as their main doctrine of operation, meaning they can air strike you over the horizon, even if lasers had infinite range they still go in a straight line and planes could still out range you. And as mentioned it’s easy to armor or saturate lasers with missile spam.


Militaries have the weapons they do for a reason. If some other weapon was way better they would be using it instead of what they currently use.
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>>518774529
Did he get v&?
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>>518773847
>Geneva convention
lol lmao even
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>>518771913
Are you trying to shrink stuff? You'll need a baseball, m8.
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>>518771913
What a lame toy. If you have this tech level and experience, start building explosives.
You could use it to blind some stray cat or fox rummaging through your trash i suppose.
This gizmo won't make your dream of handicapping superior combatants come true but it will get you full of holes :)
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>>518774668
People literally do not use chemical weapons

Any weapon that offers a tiny military advantage but a lot of negatives is likely to "remain not used" (I hate English)
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>>518774863
>remain not used
Sorry french anon I sympathize with you. As you are a fellow styropyro enjoyer I'll give you some suggestions for this phrase
>rendered cost ineffective
>be passed over for cheaper alternatives
>remain unused
>sidelined due to cost effectiveness
>fail to secure a defense contract when cheaper, more effective solutions are available
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>>518775015
>remain unused
Yeah it’s the best option but still clunky to say
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>>518771966
>fpbp
OP has the lasers, we need a marine biologist to supply the sharks.
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A leftist sees that and wants to kill people. I see that and want to make commercial signs for a profit. Just set the laser depth and use a home made xy machine. For the wood I'd use pallets because they don't rot as easily.
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>>518774724
Underrated
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>>518774628

Yeah I'm aware and largely agree with you, I just thought it was funny the military, being aware of the same things, decided making shiny mirror finish F-22's was the appropriate response to have a passive anti laser/IR ability. Now those mirror panels are also next gen full spectrum RAM coatings if leaks are to be believed, but that is another topic all together lol
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>>518775140
There are a few colloquialisms we use for things like this, "sidelined" and "fall by the wayside" being two of them, but basically, you can say "won't be chosen" or "fail to beat the cheaper alternative" in this context and it's totally fine. "Remain unused" is not very clunky at all. If you want real clunkiness,

>Any weapon that offers a tiny military advantage but at a great cost is sure to fail to meet the standards of the defense contractors involved, dooming the project and inflating costs beyond reasonable means, and will likely fail to muster support among the House Budget Committee responsible for the acquisition and financial stewardship of advanced-grade defense technologies

Or, you could go the opposite route and hit it with the nigger ebonics
>THAT SHIT TOO PRICY NIGGA. NAWMSAYN?

English is wonderful.
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>>518771913
What does the Federal Bureau of Incompetency hope to achieve by making these threads ?
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Surely Laser anon didn't get out already?
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>>518775475
laser anon was framed
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>>518772742
Did they finally take him away? I remember him from /k/ years ago.
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>>518774160
pulsing lasers are more powerful and effective
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>>518775370
>Yeah I'm aware and largely agree with you, I just thought it was funny the military, being aware of the same things, decided making shiny mirror finish F-22's was the appropriate response to have a passive anti laser/IR ability.
Wait that’s the reason? I thought your pictures were just an unfinished plane or prototype


> Now those mirror panels are also next gen full spectrum RAM coatings if leaks are to be believed, but that is another topic all together lol

Well radars are a bigger threat than lasers and will continue to be so for a long time
Orbital death lasers could swat planes out of the air (yes), but you could just launch ballistic missiles or interceptors in a volley with some anti laser coating to take out laser satellites, you can’t keep up the attrition so they’re not really viable

Ship based lasers would also have a range way shorter than enemy missile

Also personally I am a big proponent of large anti ship missiles, silo/truck/ship based. The big hypersonic kind. So I don’t even see plane on ship warfare as that relevant.(even though planes can sink ships, I see them as the dumb way to do so) And a laser can’t do anything against hypersonic, their heat shield would by itself be pretty laser resistant and there just isn’t enough time on target at close range.

As for the planes, would the RAM coating just ablate and fly off leaving the metal behind? If so that’s about the same result as if the coating wasn’t there
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>>518771913
How much is it?
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Whatever you do don't aim your laser at someone's roof and light it on fire or other infrastructure targets. Don't do that. Fuck the stupid idiot Frenchman that's trying to get you to not do this. Because fuck him because you shouldn't do it.
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>>518771913
styropyro? dat u??
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>>518774529
No he wasn't, he glued eBay modules together

>>518774667
He killed 2 people with a shitty gun he carved edgelord slogans into. It said punisher or something, it was some cheap pistol.
He openly bragged about his house being a "funnel of death" and having bombs buried in his yard, yet they arrested him without issue.

Then he got charges for threatening shitwood so even if he does get out for his double homicide case he's going to Florida

The faggot also bragged about blinding wild animals with lasers, said it's his right as an Indian even though he's a blond hair euro twink
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>>518775370
Speaking of plane and missile violence on boat, there’s that video
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vJXWJ-Px5tU

The DF21Ds just fuck ship up
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TtjJRVZ1X48

I haven’t ran the math on industrial cost efficiency per range and ease of interception of solid rocket motors vs oil fueled planes yet

Though China lacks oil but has electricity, and electricity can be used to create and stockpile chemical fuel used for rockets
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>>518775401
>fail to muster support among the House Budget Committee responsible for the acquisition
Who are these guys? Hopefully a mix of engineers and military leaders? Or literally who oligarch parasites who don’t know their stuff?

>>518775727
>pulsing lasers are more powerful and effective
I seriously doubt pulsed lasers work at a distance

Pulsed lasers work on literal millions of millionth of a second or even billions of millionth of a second


You wouldn’t get this precision at several kilometers away
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>>518776053
>He killed 2 people with a shitty gun he carved edgelord slogans into.
Really? I thought he was a Waco kind of guy not a columbine kind of guy
Who did he kill? Specific target or just got pissed off at them?

>He openly bragged about his house being a "funnel of death" and having bombs buried in his yard, yet they arrested him without issue.
I was curious about that
Would be way more based if it actually was a funnel of death

>Then he got charges for threatening shitwood so even if he does get out for his double homicide case he's going to Florida
Lmfao America is such a meme country

>The faggot also bragged about blinding wild animals with lasers, said it's his right as an Indian even though he's a blond hair euro twink
Typical internet schizo honestly
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>>518771913
Source:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1o59cdi/the_power_of_kx500_laser/
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>>518771913
It says you're a heretic.
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>>518773954
People contain a lot of fluid. Fluid, in case you're wondering, transfers heat differently than wood.
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>>518776305
>You wouldn’t get this precision at several kilometers away
if the optics are right why wouldn't they?
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>>518771913
Source:
https://www.laserpowers.com/products/kx500-diy-laser-cannon-handheld-500w-high-powerbattery-dc-40v-23ah-5000ma-wavelength-915-range-50-meters
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>>518773503
Laser drone vs gun drone
My monies on the laser drone
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>>518776305
>Hopefully a mix of engineers and military leaders?
Hahaha if only. They're elected senators and congressmen. The actual civilian oversight over defense spending is zero. Nil. Nada. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we have some sort of Stargate-style black projects going on relating to antigravity and teleportation, given the ridiculous amount of money we spend without any public oversight.
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>>518776469
Because energy is physical it’s not just a number on a spreadsheet

It’s a ball of EM waves and it is affected by diffraction

I haven’t looked into it but i think it’s pretty telling that all the professionals who did studies and create prototypes for serious big long ranged lasers for various militaries all use continuous lasers, not a single proposal with pulsed lasers
So it’s fair to assume they figured out it indeed wouldn’t work which matches what I expect with my understanding of physics

If the range is very short like under a kilometer it might still be better to try to pulse it but I assume the energy just spreads out into basically a sinusoïdal curve at longer ranges
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>>518776576
>Laser drone vs gun drone
>My monies on the laser drone
Laser drone can stay perfectly on target

The issue is powering the laser
And the gun drone could just be coated in laser armor
Something basic like ablative layers that create smoke when hit covered with an aluminum or silver mirror thin film
Copper can be used if the laser is red or infrared
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>>518776618
I'm a retard nobody but my gut tells me that the secret to making a long range laser platform work is to create an environment between the target and the weapon that is conducive to perfect energy transfer. Odds are the systems required to create those environments (vacuum, magnetic field isolation, etc) are too bulky and expensive to effectively condense down into a mobile weapon.
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>>518776608
>It wouldn't surprise me at all if we have some sort of Stargate-style black projects going on relating to antigravity and teleportation, given the ridiculous amount of money we spend without any public oversight.
Personally I would expect ridiculously amounts of money spent without public oversight to end up in mansions and yachts not teleportation weapons kek


My point was less about civilian vs military but more about skills
You want your procurement bureau to be people who understand science + understand military tactics strategy and operation
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>>518776715
Light goes through vacuum pretty well already, and air is almost vacuum


Fog and clouds are another thing that just make a mockery of laser weapons, yes clouds will stop lasers


But about your ideas there are two similar concepts that exist:
>using lasers to ionize the air to shoot a LIGHTNING BOLT
>using lasers in the vacuum of space to keep a beam of charged particles together
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>>518773777
maybe the laser is angled down a bit?
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>>518776715
You’re going to like the first video
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lix-vr_AF38

It’s the other way around, using a laser to create an environment to help some other type of energy transfer

I don’t know if anything that could help a laser deliver more energy.
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>>518776757
In France, sure, I could see that, but we burgers have a unique fetish for obtaining the most powerful weapons imaginable. Of course, the defense contractors reap their profits while this is going on, but the technologies are also being developed, too.

There's two reasons why the budget oversight committee is able to function despite being bumfuck retard politicians. For one, the actual process to seriously investigate the projects that money is spent on is extraordinarily tedious and difficult, and the vast majority of senators don't have the time or interest in researching them. Thomas Massie gave a great interview on this where he described trying to investigate some of the defense spending projects he'd looked at. Essentially, senators are brought into a secure chamber with members of the military standing by. The projects are layered with secrecy, and each aspect of them is hidden behind a codeword. If the senator wants to know about, say, Project BLACKBALL, he has to ask the military guys for the binder. Within that binder are two more codenamed projects, and they have to retrieve those too, and basically it's a fucking quagmire where any senator who has a proper schedule will need to dedicate at least a few days to properly acquaint himself with just one project, which is based on other projects, and it becomes a gigantic pain in the ass.

The vast majority of senators responsible for approving or denying military budgets just vote yes because they can't possibly deep-dive the contents of what they're voting on. It's a tragedy, because I'd love to be in their shoes and nerd out about it.
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>>518772034
fuck your aids faggot bullshit.
you won't do shit either.
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>>518773423
You don't need a laser to start a forest fire moron, it's called arson
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>>518773100
>engraving
just use a old bluray player and rework it
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>>518771913
The FBI took laser anon dude. Watch your back.
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>>518777031
I’m not worried so long as the high clearance military guys know science + war and aren’t corrupt

Also for you you can just become a senator it’s not that much work and pays pretty well from what I’ve seen of America

It’s a few years of work and a pain in the ass, you need to campaign, convince the gatekeepers you’re a good boy, get donation money and lobbying

But several pretty random average citizen become American senators it’s actually pretty frequent, the barrier to entry isn’t huge
Still a big time investment
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>>518776618
interesting
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>>518776863
>>518776951
I love that plasma cannon video, it's been years since I last saw it. For me, the last frontier of DEWs is going to be manipulating the space surrounding weapons and targets to deliver the most effective punch. I have no qualifications but I'd kill for a job with Raytheon or something where I can brainstorm ideas like this.

The ultimate DEW is one that splits atoms on its target. The very idea of this gives me a massive hard-on. Uoooooh yeah baby. If we get to that point, maybe we'll have antigravity tech that doesn't kill or sterilize people near it.
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>>518777297
I never understood people who post or boast about illegal activity or make threats
If you want someone dead just kill them don’t spend months making post yelling about how you’re going to kill them like wtf lmao
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>>518776527
yes
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>>518777344
Pride....
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>>518777298
The military guys are the ones directing the research, don't worry. The budget oversight senators in congress are just the people who give the rubber stamp of approval.
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>>518777314
>I have no qualifications but I'd kill for a job with Raytheon or something where I can brainstorm ideas like this.
You can always try to crash forums/salons and network there


>The ultimate DEW is one that splits atoms on its target.
I’m not a Trekkie, I like hard sci go only, the kind where the border between actual weapon development and fiction is pretty thin, but I remember this is how the phasers from Star Trek work. By dissociating atoms.

The only way we know to do that is by physically shaking atoms apart, imagine they’re held by strings and shake around, and if they shake too fast they break off
That’s exactly what melting is

So basically you need to heat something up, which takes a lot more energy and effort than just driving a tungsten slug through it
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>>518771913
Imagine what you could do with a wide angle lens, a few servos and some facial recognition software.
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>>518776863
>>using lasers in the vacuum of space to keep a beam of charged particles together
can lasers be used to create experimental electron disruptions to figure out the best way to create certain charge frequencies?

I was watching a documentary on the creation of the blue led and learned there needs to be electron walls which are created by impurities at certain instances to clog and redirect electrons to do what they want.

Could lasers test this before a prototype needs to be created?
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>>518777524
>You can always try to crash forums/salons and network there
My pipe dream has been to walk into a Space Force office and be like "Hey can I work on magnetohydrodynamics as a schmuck without a degree? Let me explain Lorentz Force to you" and see how far that carries me. Fucking slim chance of that working though.

Yes, heating things up is the most basic form of atomic bonds breaking, but I'm talking clean cuts. Instantaneous energy transfer, within a perfect environment, where an object is rendered down to its baser materials instantaneously. Like turning an aluminum bridge into oxide powder, like gallium does. Death rays make my PP hard. I have zero faith I'll ever get to work on these bad boys though.
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>>518771913
riots?
not in my neighbourhood!
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>>518777408
>The budget oversight senators in congress are just the people who give the rubber stamp of approval.
I don’t know if I even support that step then

I would tend to assume that a rogue military industrial complex made up of people like mac Arthur and Teller playing with expensive toys and no oversight will generally make the nation much stronger than having literally who politicians who don’t know anything about science engineering or war intrude themselves on the process

I wouldn’t even mind it the military was 100% of the budget and civilians didn’t exist

In many ways societies have worked like this, but then the military people rule over entire nations, and their subject then becomes the civilians

If you look at medieval Europe that’s how it was, a bunch of military obsessed people forming gangs, and then ruling over farmers who were basically a parallel society

Obviously the people who rule and have power are more sane than the victims who are ruled over and powerless, the kings and nobles made the right choices in life, and so it becomes a problem when there are too many of these civilians or they get too much of a say in things, because the way they think just leads you to being conquered


WW2 France is a good example. Communities of based military men. But facing a majority and civilian governement of retarded insane pacifists doing budget cuts to the army as germany was trying to speed run conquering Europe. In WW1 France had more cars and trucks than germany and was the more mobile army, in WW2 from budget cuts it was the opposite and the French army didn’t even have radios, the civilian governement refused the bill

We also had commie filth in governement and they cut the budget of the army even more because they were afraid of a military coup
Their 4D chess idea was to make the military so powerless that random unionists with pistols could fend it off
While sharing a border with Nazi germany
Truly one of the plans of all time
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>>518773659
with the coming victory of Elon (pbuh) we will have factories in space and I will finally be able to order 1 meter diameter ruby rods off temu
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>>518772034
>>518777122
You're both faggot nigger loving mutts, Leafs OWN YOU faggots with ease
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>>518774007
I never understood the geneva convention and such "war laws"
>If you dare use technological advantage in war, we will declare war on you and engage you in all out combat in which if you dare to use technological advantage on us we will declare war on you and engage you in all out combat in which if you dare use technological advantage on us ...
Like waddyagonnado huh ? use terrible weapons on us as well, presuming if you had them in the first place, then we'll use more terrible weapons and so on !
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>>518777858
>Truly one of the plans of all time
If only the english were as both simultaneously retarded and genius as those guys, the Germans might have been able to invade mainland Britain and solve this fucking problem once and for all.

The key thing to take away from this discussion as to american defense research is that the people who are actually making the decisions, furthering the research, directing the projects, are completely and totally separate from the senators who approve the financing of said projects. They're private contractors with Raytheon, L3Harris, Lockheed, et cetera who only care about the job they're doing. Our government has been coopted by a fifth column of jewish usurpers, and so there's strong motivation to push the US's defense capability as far as it can go, and as such they reap the rewards.
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>>518777633
>>518777633
>can lasers be used to create experimental electron disruptions to figure out the best way to create certain charge frequencies?
>I was watching a documentary on the creation of the blue led and learned there needs to be electron walls which are created by impurities at certain instances to clog and redirect electrons to do what they want.
>Could lasers test this before a prototype needs to be created?

I don’t know about any of this sorry
It reminds me of a team claiming they could evaporate water more easily with green laser light

But then thunderfoot chimped out about it, and he is one of the most cracked and knowledgeable people about science currently alive today. He literally invented and successfully synthesized a metallic phase of water. Turns out water as a metal is bronze colored kek.
Anyways here is the vid:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xGi_JetNWWs

Anyways despite being a genius he’s having Musk psychosis these days, he turned into a meme/lolcow where 99% of his videos are him crying about Elon Musk lying

Personally I don’t mind that much that Musk lies and scams constantly since he does it to secure funding for stuff that actually happens and works

Like say anything you want about space X but they DO have a giant factory literally mass producing rockets the size of Saturn Vs on a god damn assembly chain
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>>518778011
o so edgy
go edge yourself somewhere else.
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>>518776395
It was just two random trailer trash lived up the road. I didn't remember the motive but it wasn't a happening. They probably shorted him a gram of weed and he lost it. The fag was unhinged

Here, this will get you started
You can track his court case online
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>>518777759
I would recommend first learning everything there is to know about a topic if you want to impress them with that
Don’t come off like a schizo, you need to learn everything the professors and scientists already know so you don’t seem like an outsider or someone who doesn’t know anything when you meet them

Also having knowledge in a particular field is only useful if they are working on a project that uses this knowledge

They don’t care if you’re an expert on Lorentz forces or whatever if they have no project that uses this
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>>518776951
you can create an ion channel with a laser, no problem
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>>518777955
I SELL NEODYMIUM DOPED YITTRIUM ALUMINUM GARNET MONOCRYSTALLINE RODS BY THE TON UNDER KRYPTON LIGHT FREQUENCY QUADRUPLED WITH NON LINEAR OPTICS AND TITANIUM SAPPHIRE RELATED ACCESSORIES
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>>518778194
You replied nigger lover, I win and always will win.
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>>518778297
I'm almost certain they're working on projects that use experimental gravity-based mechanics. As you said, it's a matter of not appearing like a schizo retard when confronted by someone who actually knows their stuff. It's been a hobby of mine to learn about this stuff for many years. In any case, I hope you and I both get to witness some crazy experimental physics-based weapons platforms in our lifetimes, it's the one thing that makes living in clown world kind of cool.
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>>518772639
>blind any assailant
This is an effective way to neutralize niggers, brutes, and hired security thugs. I'd even say cop so they can never press charges if you were falsely accused. I honestly don't give a fuck about blind violent criminals. In this day and age I've seen cops and security guards do more wrong and even hit people at protests and festivals
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>>518776757
>Personally I would expect ridiculously amounts of money spent without public oversight to end up in mansions and yachts not teleportation weapons kek
Their yachts teleport and float. They're also bigger on the inside.
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>>518772562
You can just blind them and they can't do anything about it.
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>>518773777
based noticer
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>>518778446
have fun with the jeets and treadu nigger. at least we're kicking people out rn,
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>>518778131
>are completely and totally separate from the senators who approve the financing of said projects. They're private contractors with Raytheon, L3Harris, Lockheed, et cetera who only care about the job they're doing. Our government has been coopted by a fifth column of jewish usurpers, and so there's strong motivation to push the US's defense capability as far as it can go, and as such they reap the rewards.
I don’t get your point

Are you talking about defense contractors shareholders?

My stance would be to just let the Raytheon nerds and army generals do whatever the fuck they want with no oversight
While protecting those pure innocent souls from the evil congressional budget hearings as well as any corrupt person who cares about yachts more than nukes
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>>518773659
>Check out styropyro on youtube. Especially videos where he does exactly this and modifies engraving or tattoo removal lasers
retard gave himself cancer..hah
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>>518778129
the consequences come after the war, especially if you end up losing
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>>518778198
>going to jail for cyberbullying
le west has fallen

What happened to knightly duels hey?
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>>518771913
Lmao those are the cheap programmable remotes you get on temu/aliexpress
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>>518778438
you know just what to say to get me hhhot hot HOT, daddy-o!
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>>518778898
Shitwood is a kike, he's afraid of a fair fight so he uses taxpayer money to put people in a cage with bored rapists and murderers
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>>518772562
100m will do, you can't really hear drones from that range.
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>>518778449
>I'm almost certain they're working on projects that use experimental gravity-based mechanics.
That would have leaked or been used already
Pretty much everything every military has ever worked on is known and leaked or declassified, usually declassified after being leaked

Secrets don’t last long, it was really impressive how they had 100k people working in the Manhattan projects with few leaks
Still, several people actively working on the important parts became soviet spies, not to mention the French scientists helping America make its first nuke ended up making nukes for France later, which Kennedy liked but the CIA disliked

Kennedy actually wanted to create a mutual technology pact with France where France and the USA would collaborate on all nuclear weapon technology fully

Then he was assassinated by the CIA, probably because he didn’t want Israel to get nukes, and the collaboration project fell through with the next American administration

Idk how advanced France nuclear technology is, I would need to ask them
You can just do that, like find where they live and to meet them in person I probably will at some point, I’m a military engineering obsessed nerd even though that’s a hobby (it doesn’t pay well enough, not enough freedom, otherwise I would have chosen to be an engineer)
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>>518778846
>My stance would be to just let the Raytheon nerds and army generals do whatever the fuck they want with no oversight
That's pretty much how it works right now anyway. Sorry if it seemed a bit obscure. I'm not talking about shareholders, I'm talking about the actual military eggheads that run the show. The sad part is, the vast majority of senators and congressmen who are given the responsibility to manage the budget only care about yachts and their next election, so they'll vote yes on anything as long as their handlers tell them to.
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>>518771913
Da fuk?

I actually would need one, i am carpenter and i need something to make straight 1 meter long hole in wood so i can install metal wire to give extra support against bending.
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>>518778816
hahaha you are dying for the jews and you know this. die for them
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>>518772002
They already have one,
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a61687698/israel-iron-beam-laser-system/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=mgu_ga_pop_md_pmx_hybd_mix_us_18374722695&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=18374795511&gbraid=0AAAAADCyiSkXsA-DZEaYugfF_bDYqkfKC&gclid=CjwKCAjwxrLHBhA2EiwAu9EdMxQF_SaTGgmuq-rloldwke2di4DzL5m_MnWWb4NRifj_jEDHgGxKbRoCii8QAvD_BwE

At least it will save the USA a ton of money, $2 per laser shot as opposed to $50,000 with iron dome
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>>518778129
how are you using that falg but never read a single word of adilf hitler?
he saw first hand the effects of chemical weapons on his fellow soldiers, probably got gnarly PTSD from it too
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>>518779233
*flag
*adolf
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>>518779008
266 NANOMETERS OF DEATH
THAT ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT YOU NEED FOR ALL YOUR ULTRAVIOLENT NEEDS!!!!

>>518779023
I’m not following this absolute disgrace he would have been killed by now if he was doing that shit in Europe, let alone Latin America

But did he get people to have actual jail sentences or just custody? Kinda insane if it went further than custody, first of all I feel like winning the trial would be easy but they’re probably not the brightest
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>>518776395
>be quintessentially french
>behead priest
>go on with day
Lmao
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>>518779090
>Secrets don’t last long, it was really impressive how they had 100k people working in the Manhattan projects with few leaks
The manhattan project was only leaked because there was an ideological schism between soviet jews and american jews. Now that the EU has been totally brought to heel under their power, everything the US does can be cloaked in secrecy unless the North Koreans, Russia or the Chinese gain wind of it, which is essentially impossible because they are unable to infiltrate our defense infrastructure. One of the biggest law enforcement efforts ever undertaken has been to stop the spread of information of classified US technologies to "enemy states", we are spending vast resources to track down and stop people who think they can divulge even the most insignificant technologies to our "enemies".
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>>518779266
They're taking plea deals instead of fighting it
Florida doesn't even have jurisdiction, especially in cases like Golden's (the in Minecraft guy). He didn't even try to fight it, just plead guilty and got locked up
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>>518779172
>I'm talking about the actual military eggheads that run the show. The sad part is, the vast majority of senators and congressmen who are given the responsibility to manage the budget only care about yachts and their next election, so they'll vote yes on anything as long as their handlers tell them to.

Yeah but my stance in all this is that the yacht politicians are basically filthy parasites and that weapon development is a good thing

If you ever played any strategy game you know that more or less the only thing that matters is military strength. Every other metric just matters because it influences your ability to win wars. I wish we spent 100% of GDP on the army not 3%. It can be covert and hidden so other nations don’t get spooked of course, strategic deception is part of the game that is life

But I tend to strongly like the whole "build up army and take over the world" lines of thought
Ever if you don’t become quite that successful, you’re always better off being stronger than being weaker

If you want to see what it’s like to be powerless and have no military look at the Palestinians and Ugyurs. Are they having fun? lol.

A dollar spent on the army is a dollar well spent, a dollar spent on yacht, vacations, movies, luxury, fashion, etc is a dollar wasted
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>>518773428
>Lasers need thousands of watts of beam power minimum to be dangerous
retard lol
a 5 watt bulb is useless a 5 watt laser will fuck you up
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>>518779210
>$2 per laser shot
Citation needed lol

Anyways as I mentioned lasers can easily be overwhelmed by missiles, missiles which can be armored against lasers making the attrition rate ever more unmanageable

Not to mention lasers straight up stop working if there is fog or clouds or a sand storm
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>>518779423
If you spent 100% of your GDP on the army instead of social welfare, you would have soldiers rounding up africans in the streets of Paris and dumping them in the ocean. I support you 100% on this. God, if only they were so based.
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>>518779362
I never understood plea deals, I would be paranoid that the prosecution or judge or cops (who even offers the plea deal? Who has the authority to do it?) would just backstab your and go back on their word

Like "if you plead guilty well give you a fith of the sentence", then you plead guilty and they just go "lol retard" and give you the full sentence

What stops them from doing that?
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>>518779210
What abomination is in your picture?
Cooked penis stuffed in cooked cow pussy?
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>>518779527
Who was this chud jew lol?
Never heard of him
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>>518779266
Why 266 and not 255?
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>>518772002
it's a very weak laser, retard
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>>518771913
The fascinating part is the, what 20+ mW, of power from apparently batteries.
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>>518772344
he's a hero, he murked 2 glowniggers who were harassing him on his property
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>>518779802
Ernst Zundel is the farthest thing from a jew as can be. He was an extremely based german who aggressively investigated the holocaust. Unfortunately, he was not as careful as Germar Rudolf (who has a background in chemistry), but he fought the good fight and I highly recommend his interviews with David Irving. Basically, Zundel is based and it's a crime to call him a "chud jew". Dude is a legend.
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>>518779589
It's the prosecuting attorney, and they issue the plea deal offer in the form of a written contact.
Cops on the other hand will do like you said "common just admit it and we'll try to help you out", never believe them, funny about to sit, lawyer up

Now the real problem lies in the u trusting your own lawyer, because they are all Freemasons along with the prosecution, judge, cops, and jail staff
I have seen first hand half a dozen court appointed defense lawyers refuse to defend their client even when they are innocent and the supreme court (highest, their decision sets the universal law for the entire country) has said specify that a certain action is legal. The defense tells the client to plea guilty when they are entitled to walk free and sue the cops. I have the actual paper work and videos of this shit
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>>518778859
>if
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>>518779856
>Why 266 and not 255?
1060 krypton pumped Nd:YAG
Two frequency doublers
Diode lasers run too cold, fiber lasers rayure diodes
You could also get 3 doublers for probably like 134 nm
Though not many metals are reflective at that wavelength for the final emitter
Dielectric could be used maybe titanium dioxide and aluminum oxide
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>>518779233
His clemency was his downfall, not invading incompetent snowniggers
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>>518773720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrocytwdeEY
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>>518771913
Hasan’s new dog trainer?
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>>518777815
I wanna build a mega joule laser thats handheld and uses a concave lense to distribute the laserlight over a large area.
I wanna have a personal "Stevie Wonder Privilige" dispenser
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>>518772084
Im glad he is rotting in prison
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>>518780298
ehh
you can just scan a much less powerful beam for the same effect
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>>518779951
>Ernst Zundel is the farthest thing from a jew as can be. He was an extremely based german who aggressively investigated the holocaust.
I assumed he was israeli since he is interviewed by an Israeli reporter which would hint at the interview taking place in Israel or him being part of the community
It’s also hard to say who’s german and who’s jewish they have the same names

>Unfortunately, he was not as careful as Germar Rudolf (who has a background in chemistry),
Why, he got killed?

>but he fought the good fight and I highly recommend his interviews with David Irving. Basically, Zundel is based and it's a crime to call him a "chud jew". Dude is a legend.
I would say jews need chud jews and that would be a compliment, if there is not tard wrangler things go badly, look how quickly Israel lost international support, now the majority of the American population. + European GOVERNEMENTS hate them

I genuinely don’t believe you had antidemitism as strong as today even in beer halls at nazi rallies

It reminds me of quotes from the Talmud, rabbis all decry bar kokba and say he was a retard and no one should have listened to him, that they had a good thing going under rome and he fucked everything up

I think it’s the whole chosen people nonsense
Many Jews genuinely believe they have invincibility cheat codes on and act in a suicidal wrekless way as if nothing bad can ever happen. Jews should treasure their chuds they are keeping the rest safe.

But normies never listen to chuds and disasters ensue
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>>518771913
that lense will last for 10 minutes
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>>518780152
Say it again but pretend I'm retarded
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>>518780087
>It's the prosecuting attorney, and they issue the plea deal offer in the form of a written contact.
>Cops on the other hand will do like you said "common just admit it and we'll try to help you out", never believe them, funny about to sit, lawyer up

I would say this approach is the best one:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YmQJlortf14

But it only works because the gus character is as knowledgeable about the law and cop practices as a good lawyer, plus he is high IQ
You don’t need legal counsel if you know the law and the procedures and the psychology and the way things usually go, it’s the service lawyers provide, and most lawyers are low IQ normies like ANY other job
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>>518780477
Why did you say 255? Let’s start there
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>>518780556
Germicidal and is more popular than other uv Sources
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>>518780152
>not many metals are reflective at that wavelength
I got three words for you
grazing angle fresnel
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>>518773555
They might blind fire in a panic, but you should be ok. Just get the heck outta there, and stay low while doing so.
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>>518771913
reminder to leafs to buy sweet Chinese lasers before they eventually change the laws to be gay as fuck like the US
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>>518771913
wow you can burn a tiny hole in a dark coloured object. you're no laser anon. you're not even that faggot styropyro
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>>518780532
Often times the cops lie just to drag innocent people through the courts as retaliation
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>>518780961
Qrd
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>>518773777
oy vey
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>>518780632
Ah ok that’s a UV diode

Basically it turns electricity into 255 nm light

My option is about using a bright light to shine on ruby which is fluorescent, it will emit light at 1060 nm, and this is how a pumped laser is created. The fluorescent light coming off this "lasing medium". Then there is this whacky thing called frequency doublers, where basically light of one color enters at one end and a different color leaves at the other end.

1060 cut in half is green, and cut in half again gives you 266 nm. The reason we use infrared light turned into green then UV light is because it’s just more efficient. Diodes are more efficient but cold. Especially in space, the hotter the heat source is the easier it is to get rid of the heat. Stephan Boltzmann relationship, temperature to the fourth power. Basically the exponential of an exponential. So you really want everything to be as hot as possible. And diodes don’t work above room temperature. Not great for high altitude planes and unusable in space

>>518780745
>grazing angle fresnel
Bulky + why wouldn’t a regular layered dielectric mirror do the same job? Also how tf do you actively cool that kind of lens, just blowing through it with gas?
Again it’s bulky you basically need a gun barrel for your laser if you use this

One of the big advantages f lasers is that the aiming peace can be a small lightweight mirror moving precisely at thousands of degrees per second and it still just works

Artillery meanwhile is forced to move around a solid chunk of metal
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>>518777955
ah elon mosque, ive heard good things brother
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>>518771913
How many kilowatts?
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>>518780990
Courts just believe cops without hard evidence? Seems like a massive law issue

Trusting anyone without hard evidence, like idk medical examinations confirming injury with photos, security cameras, payment logs and receipts, found items

I remember now the video of a cop throwing a bag of drug in a car through the window which was caught by the camera

Very annoying stuff to deal with but the courts should let you go if the best they have is "me and the boys say he did it"
Like especially in America where they all have cameras, anything they see while on duty should be on video which should make their word even less acceptable in court
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>>518781017
most commercial USA laser pointers you'll find on Amazon or at a dollar store are limited to 5mW or less by some fed agency IIRC. 5mW is nothing, probably won't damage an eye without staring into it. You need around 300-400mW to light a match or pop a balloon depending on the color I think. Not sure how US citizens go about getting licensed for high power lasers but otherwise you'll have to make your own and I guess it's probably stupid illegal too. Last time I checked there was no power limit on lasers for Canadians and you can buy 1W and 3W commercial lasers online without ID last time I checked
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>>518781068
>Also how tf
it's almost like you don't want a cool laser gun with grid fin radiators and coolant pipes and a big fat octagonal muzzle!
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>>518781231
You don’t buy laser pointers, look elsewhere, use your noggin.
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>>518781231
Oh it's been that for because

Last I checked, you just buy them anyway like normal. Some stores enforce a policy so the chinks intentionally label them 5mw when they're really 50mw-5w
Id rather make them myself anyway
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>>518780392
No, Zundel is a true German and an autist who threw away his life to expose holocaust propaganda. He is not jewish. Neither is Rudolf. The reason I say he was not as careful as Rudolf is because Rudolf applied a much more careful scientific lens to his refutation of the holocaust than Zundel did. They're both right however.

I can't believe you haven't heard of either Ernst Zundel or Germar Rudolf, I highly encourage you to look them up and watch their TV interviews to get an idea of the kind of guys they are. They're fucking awesome.
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>>518773428
pretty much, the US has been playing with chemical lasers since the 80s, to mount them into jumbo jets as part of their first pass at star wars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIRACL
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>>518781208
The courts actively hover up the cops crimes, I've personally sent them issue warrants based on the cops lies which were on video and I've seen the defense lawyers refuse to stop the courts from allowing this because they're so Freemasons

I've seen them hold court without even letting the guy know there was court in that day, just to try and get him institutionalized for using protected speech (literally no other charges) because the guy wouldn't take the illegal plea deal
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>>518781475
No you don’t get it he’s talking about an onion with a bunch of mirrors not connected to the outside
Hence why cooling it is an issue


>>518781683
>I can't believe you haven't heard of either Ernst Zundel or Germar Rudolf, I highly encourage you to look them up and watch their TV interviews to get an idea of the kind of guys they are. They're fucking awesome.
I don’t care about the holocaust I’m too busy sperging over high tech weapon design

>>518781783
Yeah and they canceled the laser plane project I think fully discontinued
Project Excalibur also had nuclear pumped lasers idk if that would actually work

>>518781818
>I've personally sent them issue warrants based on the cops lies which were on video and I've seen the defense lawyers refuse to stop the courts from allowing this because they're so Freemasons
>I've seen them hold court without even letting the guy know there was court in that day, just to try and get him institutionalized for using protected speech (literally no other charges) because the guy wouldn't take the illegal plea deal
On both this cases can’t you appeal to a higher court of authority?

Or make a scandal on social media etc if a high authority court even Supreme Court explicitly does something illegal like not inviting someone to create fake charges?
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>>518778515
>neutralize

Bro, this is insta kill. You will get thrown in jail for killing a protected nog by using a illegal "weapon"
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>>518781068
Thanks for the explanation
I knew about the ir to green transition but know nothing of the rest of that. I'll research it.
What's the application for this?

There were these green laser decorations that used this effect, they shined green dots on houses. But in the winter the ir to green effect didn't work at first so it was just spamming dangerous it laser light until the crystal warned up
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>>518781966
That's on the list of stuff to do, now I just tell everyone to kill cops
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>>518781966
I don't think cooling a bunch of metal blades would be such a big problem, but it could be I don't understand enough? point me to a drawing of such a device maybe?
>Excalibur
insanity piled on madness, but yes, it works, for certain definitions of "works"
a tiny fraction of the energy is actually used but it's enough
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>>518772344
Agree, but he had fun and thats illegal.
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>>518772639
Wait till you learn about flamethrowers.
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>>518782069
>What's the application for this?
Death rays in space
Used to destroy thousands of satellites very quickly, intercept rocket cargo or undefended crew modules, space stations etc
Basically rule space
Lasers are better in space because there is no atmosphere or horizon, and cooling is harder on top of that so heating something up is way more dangerous in space

>There were these green laser decorations that used this effect, they shined green dots on houses. But in the winter the ir to green effect didn't work at first so it was just spamming dangerous it laser light until the crystal warned up
That’s weird you mean the non linear optics just let IR light through at a different temperature?

Theoretically it’s not that dangerous because the light intensity of the IR light wouldn’t be much higher than the green light
Non linear optics are generally very efficient, I think some can be even 100% efficient

Meaning that the light was the same intensity just a different invisible color
Narrow wavelength light, UV X-ray etc can be dangerous but IR tends to be the opposite
So basically your lights were just shining dim invisible red light, not dangerous at all, if this is really what was going on

If it had been dangerous a safety feature would be to include an IR filter after the optic at the end and an automatic shut off feature
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>>518772034
the jew FEARS the unchained laser-wielding goyim
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>>518782267
>yes, it works, for certain definitions of "works"
>a tiny fraction of the energy is actually used but it's enough
As far as I know no nuclear test ever tested it

My standard of "it works" would be actually building a machine that works and a real life demonstration

Seems easy honestly, just prepare one of these cells and place them next to the next nuke you were going to blow up anyways and see if it creates your death ray


As for it being enough... idk, would it be enough to vaporise for instance 3 centimeters of graphite 500 kilometers away? That’s kinda what they need to do in order to successfully shoot down missiles
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>>518779939
QRD?
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>>518771913
Okay now point it at my urethra
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>>518782458
Do you do this professionally or just know about space lasers as a hobby?

Idk about the green, I learned of this from a YouTube video. Can't find it though
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>>518773659
That's what phase conjugate non-linear adaptive optics are for. You would be extremely surprised at how far along we are at long distance correction for both spread and atmospheric aberration.
>>518774569
He does not.
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>>518782606
Something I haven’t mentioned yet is that I’m probably the planet's foremost expert on space warfare and orbital mechanics in a military context
Autism truly is a superpower

Either way, intercepting sub orbital stuff with orbital satellites and vice versa, intercepting satellites with suborbital missiles is not easy at all, provided the target can dodge


It’s extremely messy, the satellites are flying very fast, and they are kinda on rail from their inertia. It’s almost impossible to get a high concentration of interceptors where you want them. If they’re not in low orbit they’re too far away to reach an ICBM before it hits its target.

If they are in low earth orbit they need a crazy amount of both acceleration and Dv to hit it. So I believe a large part about why there is no weapon in space is simply that putting interceptor missiles on earth is a lot cheaper and kinda more effective.

Taking this into account it means that your interceptor satellite couldn’t get too close to enemy missiles even if it wanted too. You might at best get a starlink like net of these Excalibur laser stations that each over an area equal to their average distance. Doesn’t stop multiple waves of missiles mind you.

Either way it means that they basically need to snipe a bunch of missiles at once, that are likely to each be hundreds of kilometers away from each other. And from the target. So it’s like a bunch of triangles hundreds of kms/miles from each other

Just think about the average distance between cities in America for example. ONE Excalibur nuclear pumped laser station would likely have to shoot down all ICBMs coming to both New York and Boston and Washington at once. One satellite to cover all 3 cities. It’s the kind of range we’re talking about

So can these Excalibur pumped lasers REALLY annihilate reentru vehicles with thick heat shields of idk, graphite, tantalum hafnium carbide, whatever refractory material they use, THAT far away?
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>>518775370
It's probably the fancy new reverse Doppler metamaterial coating. Boeing has been hard at work on it for almost 30 years now.
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>>518777314
The ultimate DEW is the one that fires a collimated beam of bound state positronium.
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>>518773777
Mong
Also checked
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>>518782889
Hobbytism

You should probably look up the wiki article on cavity lasers, fiber lasers and finally non linear optics

Better than AI

>>518782968
>You would be extremely surprised at how far along we are at long distance correction for both spread and atmospheric aberration.
That’s useful for telescopes which use lasers for tuning to scope the atmosphere in front of them out

However atmospheric aberration is irrelevant in a military context where you’re just trying to burn something with good enough brute force

What isn’t irrelevant is diffraction and beam quality. Adaptative optics can’t do better than a mathematically perfect Gaussian beam and even those are STRONGLY range limited
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>>518782629
qrd is they wouldn't be dead if they weren't glownigger agents harassing him onnhos property, and they wouldn't be dead on his property if they weren't harassing him on his property
harassment is illegal, so the glowniggers had no righta to life and it was self defence
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>>518773777
Your vertical lines aren't pointing to the same surface on the bottom.
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>>518782606
>no nuclear test ever tested it
some devices were tested
>After a review of Chapline’s idea, Hagelstein came up with an alternative approach. Although initially skeptical, Wood became an advocate and persuaded Teller, giving them the backing they needed for a dedicated nuclear test of both approaches. Both succeeded in the November 14, 1980, experiment called Dauphin. Livermore decided to pursue Hagelstein’s idea because it offered a more intense beam.
https://www.optica-opn.org/home/articles/volume_19/issue_5/features/the_history_of_the_x-ray_laser/
there was a problem with focusing, as I understand, and funding for the system was dropped
but the lasing part works just fine, because why would it not?
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>>518771913
What now faggot?
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>>518783041
>It’s almost impossible to get a high concentration of interceptors where you want them
the future is now, old man
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>>518783217
I look it up, but AI was just saying what the video I was talking about was saying so I screenshoted that
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>>518771966
Kek
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>>518783294
>there was a problem with focusing, as I understand,
NO FUCKING SHIT LOL
It’s a nuke and everything is exploding how TF can you expect any kind of accuracy with that


As I mentioned in the second post the ranges involved are hundreds of kilometers, they need to be deadly to metal balls protected by heat shields that far away

That’s an angular distance of fuck that I’m not going to calculate it but it’s a triangle that’s like 500km long and has a narrow side of 50 cm

So arc seconds or less

You need as much of the energy of the nuke to be deposited there

>>518783294
>because why would it not?
Because the device is actively being nuked lol
That tends to break precision equipment

How can you trust a lasing medium to do its job when it’s literally undergoing nuclear transmutation which is basically just alchemy
Precise dopping contents vs a wave of neutrons turning everything into random isotopes, who would win lol

I have never looked up the mechanism I assume they use like xrays or gammas or whatever nukes produce fraction of a second before the heavier neutrons and nuclei arrive to lase the medium would be my guess

So I would stay skeptical

But my biggest doubt is whether it’s powerful enough to be dangerous at hundreds of kilometers away
It could probably destroy the fuel tank but I doubt it could destroy the warheads
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>>518783217
Again, you should familiarize yourself with phase conjugators for laser systems. And yes, they are definitely better. What else can correct beam diffraction in real time? Technically, it's not even real time because the correction happens before the probe beam even leaves the cavity. Photon time reversal FTW
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>>518783395
Nope doesn’t matter it’s orbital mechanics

Even if you have the ability to spam millions of them you’re still being inefficient by leaving them in space, the same industrial resources put in interceptor missiles would do a better job than the exact same work and material being put in interceptor cubesats
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>>518783294
We have way better ways of generating non-nuclear pumped x-ray lasers now. You can get some weird effects with polariton lasing systems where your entire probe pulse experiences extreme wavelength compression.
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>>518783762
>Again, you should familiarize yourself with phase conjugators for laser systems.
Give me a bone do you have some reading material?

All I find is o tidal systems that care about either getting a crisp image or uniform beam both of which are utterly irrelevant for military lasers that just care about imputing energy into target

And I have never heard of anything beating diffraction that would break the laws of physics, all lasers are diffraction limited, then on top of that have things like optical aberrations, atmo aberrations, beam quality factor etc
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>>518771983
You already have it
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>>518773503
Cry about it.
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>>518772084
No, thanks. I told the nigga to slow his roll and for some reason didn't and is in prison.
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>>518780361
He got out.
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>>518784090
You have to be 18 or older to post here
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>>518784382
Prove it
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bumping good thread about weapons
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>>518783737
>I have never looked up the mechanism
it was a riff on the "sparkplugs" used to ferry xrays from the primary to the secondary in a fission-fusion weapons
you have some material that turns into a plasma and then the plasma is hit by more light from the explosion and then if the plasma channel is long enough you get a few internal reflections and bob's your uncle
and yes, by the time neutrons drag their heavy asses to there it's all over
>>518783813
>leaving them in space
have you ever given any thought as to why the Spess Forc wants launch-on-demand capability?
>>518783908
>We have way better ways of generating non-nuclear pumped x-ray lasers now
yes
>You can get some weird effects with polariton lasing systems
I was today days old when I learned about polariton lasing
tell me more?
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>>518775200
marine biologist here. best i can do is some salmon
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>>518774724
based. zoomshits and millennials will never get this
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>>518772639
One of the very few reasons I don't fuck with lasers for fun.... I KNOW I'll accidentally blind myself or someone else completely by accident.

I mean, when I was making microwave guns with oven magnetrons and shit when I was a teen, at least then I knew there was no INSTANT injury/death risks.
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>>518784991
Essentially you are storing photon states as excitations in a dilute quantum gas or solid material that supports exciton condensation for later re-release. Depending on the material used and the wave mixing setup, you can induce all kinds of interesting effects in laser systems. Like wave front reversal/phase conjugation. Pic related. What happens to the wavelength of your probe beam?
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>>518773428
one LY-1 uses 30-100kw, oaf. And that's enough to protect a destroyer or as AD against drones
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>>518784991
>it was a riff on the "sparkplugs" used to ferry xrays from the primary to the secondary in a fission-fusion weapons
I still don’t jnow how these works

From my investigation they apparently just use an aluminum metal cylinder and I guess that’s good enough at bouncing xrays or neutrons question mark?

Apparently the polystyrene does nothing, thermal expansion is minimal and 99.999% or whatever of the compressive force comes from ablation. At least that’s what I heard.

>have you ever given any thought as to why the Spess Forc wants launch-on-demand capability?
Rocket silos and rocket interceptors aren’t exactly new

It’s like that Soviet missile on the tube turret thing, that shot down the American spy plane, what was it called, J2? I’m thinking of the slender black American spy plane with thin long wings like a glider
Anyways it was shot down by these missiles which are on demand

It wouldn’t take much more fuel to just push them into low earth orbit sub orbital


Space war is really complex and I know a lot about it but it’s like an endless deluge of differential equations

Trying to think about it mentally, it’s very difficult to intercept stuff, especially in LEO with all the orbital asymetries caused by earth

Basically low speed intercepts are easy but take time and Dv
High speed intercepts can be done fast and cost less Dv but it’s really easy to dodge them

You never really have any opportunity to shoot something down in a guaranteed manner quickly without absurd Dv and engine performance

On a basic level to intercept something you need more acceleration than the target, if it dodges at 1g but you can match the movement at 2G it can never evade you, it’s a guaranteed hit
However, you might run out of fuel first. If you run out of fuel you failed. And that’s the issue. An engine that can burn at like 8 G for 5 minute is insane, and would require a huge multi staged rocket too
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>>518782629
>>518783226
fuckin retard he killed his girlfriend and the guy she was cheating with
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>>518785049
are they ill tempered?
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>>518779939
>she believes laser trannies schizo headcanon
Kek NGMI
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>>518784991
As far as I know all anti satellite missile test and projects are minimal Dv missions that only work if the target doesn’t dodge

A nation at war would detect launches, see they’re going for satellites and move them out of the way, and the basic interceptor missiles just don’t have enough fuel to match the changes, small change of trajectory by the satelites requires a lot of fuel for the interceptors

Unless it’s a low velocity intercept, but those take like 10-20 minutes with earth distances, If you’re right under the target

I would genuinely recommend a Star Wars like ground to orbit energy cannon to take out satellites. Probably the cheapest approach. Unironically. I could plot a mission like desert storm to take out every enemy satellite but it would be expensive and not guaranteed to succeed depending on whether or not the enemy takes certain actions.
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>>518785388
ok but is there any gain? doesn't seem like there would be
>wavelength
it gets shorter? I mean, you have to stuff all that energy somewhere, right?
also doesn't this heat up your BEC gas cloud or whatever?
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>>518785645
they're always trying to swim upstream
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>>518785418
>And that's enough to protect a destroyer or as AD against drones
How many drones and how fast are they?

https://youtube.com/shorts/u_gwd7KprkA

Plus why would anyone use drones to attack ships when missiles exist
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>>518771913
Excellent! This exactly the weapon that counters drones. Put one on your gun. Hell put a nice big one on one of those new warthog atvs. Better than a bird shot shotgun.
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>>518785503
>I guess that’s good enough at bouncing xrays or neutrons question mark?
soft xrays from the primary
>99.999% or whatever of the compressive force comes from ablation. At least that’s what I heard.
that was purposeful misinformation. soundwaves are too slow
radiation pressure is what ignites the secondary

>It wouldn’t take much more fuel to just push them into low earth orbit sub orbital
SM-2 does that, but using one rocket to orbit one interceptor is way inefficient in the context of all-out war
so, big rocket throws up many interceptors at once
>to intercept something you need more acceleration than the target
which is why lasers hold such big promise - you can swing a laser spot around at insane speeds, to the eternal chagrin of my cat
starlink satellites are supposed to be able to point like, 5W lasers at each other and talk that way
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>>518785809
>>518785418
https://youtube.com/shorts/3sdlFIY9l3o
Better video

On one side only lasers could track that, on the other it’s still so fast that a laser wouldn’t have time to shoot down more than a handful lol

Offense definitely beats defense in war with modern technology
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>>518786015
dont forget 40kg battery in your backpack
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>>518786072
>soundwaves are too slow
Interesting ideas, I know that materials transfer energy with the speed of sound in materials

However

My brain is telling me that atoms in a material can move faster than the speed of sound in the material if they are accelerated faster than it at which point the material would just be broken

Implying that it’s not a hard limit of energy transfer but simply that exceeding it would destroy the material

Which raises the question, what happens, X-rays and whatever else hits, outter layers ablate, action reaction, half gets accelerated inwards each time, it repeats very fast, faster than atoms can move, so you get a sort of cascading effect of increased kinetic energy as the radiation digs through the material

That’s what I would expect and it seems consistent with something that would create strong compression, even if the material is basically a gas at that point
Why wouldn’t this happen? Speed of sound is no longer a factor there regular solid material properties have ceased to exist

>radiation pressure is what ignites the secondary
Well it’s radiation either way but if it wasn’t ablation too then how come the reflective cylinder or oblate spheroid shell survives long enough to bounce all the light, presumably surviving until actually massive particles show up?
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>>518771913

>stay still!
>stay still!
>why won't you stay still?!?!
>stay still!

my, how the turntables of humanity have fallen
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>>518785764
The wavelength does indeed get proportionally shorter. As far as the cooling, yes and no. The other lasers required are also there for Doppler cooling
>>518785503
The polystyrene is there as a support structure. The magic is from the neutron moderators embedded in the foam. It serves a real purpose, but not the magic key to nuclear warheads that the DoE has led everyone to believe. They may use some super secret foaming agent, but I doubt that. Probably just some chemistry trick to distribute the beryllium or whatever evenly throughout the foam.
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>>518782041
>kill
it wont kill anyone unless they stand still for half a hour while you burn through there skull
blinding thou that's instant
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>>518786356
the reflective cylinder is a cylinder of plasma by the time it starts doing its job
xrays experience total internal reflection as they bounce along inside
they have already reached the secondary in sufficient quantity to ignite it by the time the plasma cylinder starts to experience any sort of mechanical effects - that is in fact the whole point of the sparkplug, it's a light pipe, the way it works is nothing like the wadding in your grandpa's musket
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>>518771913
This is rather tame compared to styropyros devices
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Russia has anti sattelite lasers. Used against Musk`s starlink in 2022.
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>>518786560
if you're talking about FOGBANK, it was not polystyrene but polyurethane
>neutron moderators
neutrons are too slow to matter for ignition
the raison d'etre for the high-Z dust embedded in the foam is to change the optical properties of the plasma a bit
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IMA FIRIN MAH LAZER
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>>518786560
>The magic is from the neutron moderators embedded in the foam. It serves a real purpose, but not the magic key to nuclear warheads that the DoE has led everyone to believe.
I heard that nukes work on fast neutrons both for the chain reaction and secondary stage compression

Which makes complete sense, if you want to press on something why would you slow the neutrons

Also

A nuke releases a ton of neutrons
Neutron moderators would get destroyed and need to exist in mass proportional to the neutron wave
And if they’re atoms they have a molar mass several times higher than neutrons so several times more mass in moderator material than neutrons flying off
And I’m under the impression nukes release a ton of neutrons, more than just one per uranium/plutonium atom, as in chain reactions and decay chain and generally random shit flying in all directions creates a chaotic nuclear reactor where uranium atoms are broken down into much smaller atoms with near random distribution
Which is where the fallout of a nuke comes from, all this randomness
But I would expect it to also release several neutrons per atom of uranium/trans uranic fissile

>They may use some super secret foaming agent, but I doubt that. Probably just some chemistry trick to distribute the beryllium or whatever evenly throughout the foam.
Reminds me of boronated polyethylene

I wouldn’t expect light atoms to go to the surface if the plastic is a slurry consistency so just mixing them cooling it should create an even distribution
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>>518771913
Wild how anyone can just buy super powerful fiber lasers. I have seen some so powerful that if turned on without the right material around it would just blast through multiple walls in a couple seconds.
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>>518772562
Diffraction and absorption from the atmosphere makes it very unlikely. The laser would to be so overpowered that it would need an entire truck to carry the power source.
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>>518786672
>the reflective cylinder is a cylinder of plasma by the time it starts doing its job
>xrays experience total internal reflection as they bounce along inside
Isn’t the angle of total internal reflection for X rays like 3°? Or am I missing something
They would need to be super long tubes no? Also wouldn’t plasma create a very unequal and thus poor mirror since it’s all exploded and minute asymetries quickly create random bubbles of plasma?

>they have already reached the secondary in sufficient quantity to ignite it by the time the plasma cylinder starts to experience any sort of mechanical effects
I don’t care about ignition I care about maximisation, getting as much of the energy as possible where it needs to be, if I can get away with fusing carbon why wouldn’t you?

The more of the radiation you get and the more evenly you get the higher the yield of the weapon would be and I assume engineers did everything to maximize yield per kg of bomb and yield per cost of bomb

Small efficient nukes are kind of a war winning wunderwaffe
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>>518771913
the worst you can do with that is leave someone blind from one eye

the second that laster touch any body part the person would fil the pain and move away
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>>518785582
aka glowniggers
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>>518773777
you gotta be a fuckin retard fr
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>>518772562
Styropyro had a video out at least a year ago, maybe two, of a 2kW "rust removal" laser that he added optics to, which could set things on fire at an estimated 2.5 miles.

I wish it didn't require a mains power supply, I'd mount it on a drone for, uh, deer hunting.
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>>518787158
*le big sigh*
I am le tired but I will explain a bit
conventional explosive lenses go boom and compress a plutonium shell
the shell undergoes fission and starts emitting hard light
the light compresses some tritium gas that has been previously injected into the hollow at the center of the shell
the gas fuses, releasing a shit-ton more neutrons which fission an appreciable portion of the shell
which releases more hard light
which goes through a light pipe and hits some litium deuteride or whatever, compressing it to the point where it starts (inertially confined) fusion - in this sense, yes, ablation does the work, but it is ablation of the secondary by light from the primary
from there, more light, which compresses more deuteride, creating more neutrons
at some point, as the fusion reaction in the secondary is basically dying down already, the fast neutrons produced finally reach the tertiary, if one is provided - a blanket of fissile material such as uranium
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>>518773020
>small green laser for aiming and maybe IR for the main one
Definitely IR for the "main one" -- the aiming beam is probably a frequency-doubled low-power beam from the same laser source. There's some crystal that does the conversion automagically.
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>>518787393
>super long
aspect ratio is the concept you're looking for
>quickly create random bubbles
ANY mechanical process is irrelevant on the timescale we're working on
>if I can get away with fusing carbon
is very inefficient
>The more of the radiation you get and the more evenly you get the higher the yield of the weapon
yes!

small efficient fusion-only devices are an even better kind of wunderwaffle
this is one of the promises of modern soft xray lasers, of course, which is why they're being funded
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>>518785582
cool lie, glownigger-くん
>laseranon having a girlfriend
kek, jej even
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>>518771966
*frickin sharks
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>>518787662
>which goes through a light pipe and hits some litium deuteride or whatever,
This conflicts with H bomb designs I have seen

Teller ulam devices are always shown with a secondary made up of alternative layers of fissiles and fusiles, generally plutonium then ldeut then plutonium again
I have never seen just a raw block of lithium deuteridr
Also you could put lithium deuteride at the center of the ball instead of D-T gas, if the fission nuke itself is powerful enough

>compressing it to the point where it starts (inertially confined) fusion - in this sense, yes, ablation does the work, but it is ablation of the secondary by light from the primary
Not sure what you mean by light a blaring light

Either way my question was about whether or not speed of sound in a material would actually matter if you have such intense radiation pressure and thermal heating that the material is vaporized into a gas then plasma

>from there, more light, which compresses more deuteride, creating more neutrons

A lot of neutrons being generated before the fast neutrons of the primary could kinda hit incoming wave no? Depending on density
If so, do they not use neutrons at all to compress the secondary? That’s an inefficiency if I’ve ever seen one
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>>518788257
Your questions aren't too different from how your nuclear program started. It was basically guess and ask the US whether your guesses were right.
>Is it this?
No
>What about this?
No
>How about this?
Maybe...
Enough guesses and BAM, you have a nuclear weapons program (which you promptly shared with the Jews).
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>>518787917
>aspect ratio is the concept you're looking for
You can’t make nukes millimeters wide last time I checked so no length is perfectly applicable as the width remains constant

>ANY mechanical process is irrelevant on the timescale we're working on
You said it was a plasma
If it’s a plasma it has already changed from a solid, the interaction has happened

Maybe it hasn’t had time to move a lot just yet but it isn’t the perfectly smooth surface finish the metal had anymore

>is very inefficient
Exothermic so who cares
I’m suggesting fusing DT or LD or LT or D D or any other fusion fuel (I know the fuel choice vastly changes the performance but mostly because some like DT are easier to fuse than others) all the way up until carbon and then some
Not starting with carbon obviously
Basically speedrunning what stars do across the main sequence
IF you could compress fuel that hard and for that long you would, it would create more yield per bomb mass (all combined)

>this is one of the promises of modern soft xray lasers, of course, which is why they're being funded
Never heard of them, do you have a link?

Is it nuclear like Excalibur or a regular laser? If it’s a laser it can’t really be a super weapon, nukes are super weapon because of the energy density of nuclear reactions
A laser that relies on a gasoline generator or gas turbine or solar power or chemical laser or whatever else could never be amazing in terms of energy density it would just be similar to all other weapons and war machines
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>>518773020
>>518787834
>>518771966
>>518771913
I want to know what source they're using
Says 500 watt 915nm
Googles only showing fiberoptic devices with those specs
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>518787587
>I wish it didn't require a mains power supply
But that the issue

A laser that can do half the job of a small arms gun requires a vehicle worth of power generation

A laser that stands any chance at taking down military assets and machines needs a dedicated nuclear reactor. They can either be sitting ducks on the ground, sitting ducks on a boat or somewhat mobile and potentially defended battle stations in space. Lasers do best in space of course. Huge distances and empty vacuum without air or cloud or ocean or rocks to stop your laser.

On the ground, well a nuclear powered laser isn’t strong enough to shoot down a hypersonic teen try vehicle let alone several. Same for ships.

For smaller units, planes can have lasers but that takes away thrust from the engine. All the energy going to the laser is energy that is not helping the plane climb or go faster. And they’re not that strong on a plane power supply.

I would say lasers are useless at missile interception, potentially useful at drone and UAV interception, and useful as a one time use system to destroy for instance a bunch of spy satellites before a missile destroys it


>>518788257
Not sure what you mean by light ablating light*
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>>518788567
>Enough guesses and BAM, you have a nuclear weapons program (which you promptly shared with the Jews).
As far as I know jews got their nukes by literally stealing weapon grade plutonium from American military suppliers, I saw a documentary and there were literally CIA documents saying "uh guys 250 kg of plutonium was stolen AGAIN last month maybe we should do something about the hat?" (Paraphrasing)

France built a nuclear reactor for Israel but also for Iran, were true neutral like that
Equal opportunity nuclear power
How I stopped worrying and love the bomb
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>>518788617
>>518787587
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>>518788257
>do they not use neutrons at all to compress the secondary?
to compress, no
to fuse some more of the stuff, yes
this was the nasty surprise of castle bravo, yea?
unexpected neutron capture by the "wrong" lithium isotope, way more fusion than expected
>speed of sound in a material would actually matter
not for the sparkplug, no
it matters in that the show is well and truly over once the tertiary is finally blown away. the time gained by making it thick actually matters...
>alternative layers of fissiles and fusiles
sloika is of working, but also very inefficient, comrade. many lives of enemies of state expended in mining uranium for marginal gains in explosive power. huge amounts of irreplaceable fossil fuel used to ferry around these monstrous devices instead of being sold to pig dog capitalists for hard currency to buy microchips for intercontinental ballis... ahem... carry on
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>>518787282
>Wild how anyone can just buy super powerful fiber lasers. I have seen some so powerful that if turned on without the right material around it would just blast through multiple walls in a couple seconds.
For a mere 500 bucks from china too.
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>>518779527
>I'm not much of a profit
Maybe it's spectrum-related, but the whole image is ruined for me. Epic interview, though.
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>>518771913
Really disappointed that wasn’t salami.
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>>518788573
>ou can’t make nukes millimeters wide
you can make the sparkplug millimeters wide though...
>If it’s a plasma it has already changed from a solid
it's not yet moving, it hasn't had the time. it is a plasma in that electrons are free of their earthly bonds
>IF you could compress fuel that hard and for that long you would
and if I had a big titted autismo gf I would be happy, or so I think
>Never heard of them
here's an article by someone adjacent to the excalibur project
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2874177
things have moved on since then
https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/d7r7-46ld
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>>518789286
you want burnt salami? doofus
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>>518788829
>this was the nasty surprise of castle bravo, yea?
>unexpected neutron capture by the "wrong" lithium isotope, way more fusion than expected
Weird they were surprised, I independently came to the design of lithium dueteride and lithium tritide when brainstorming how to make a nuke while learning about nuclear physics as one does
Lithium is a light element that fuses well
Boron neutron fusion is similar too

>>speed of sound in a material would actually matter
>not for the sparkplug, no
>it matters in that the show is well and truly over once the tertiary is finally blown away. the time gained by making it thick actually matters...
But you originally said that ablation doesn’t matte re cause of the speed of sound implying you believe that the outside explodes, but the energy is only transmitted inwards by a speed of sou d shockwave
I have doubts about this and wonder this would happen or whether a cascade acceleration scenario would happen where ablation still accelerated mass inwards but does so much faster than the speed of sound as the metal is basically tuned in a high density high pressure gas
If pressure even makes sense at all in this context as the vectors and momentum would be quite directional

>>alternative layers of fissiles and fusiles
>sloika is of working, but also very inefficient, comrade. many lives of enemies of state expended in mining uranium for marginal gains in explosive power. huge amounts of irreplaceable fossil fuel used to ferry around these monstrous devices instead of being sold to pig dog capitalists for hard currency to buy microchips for intercontinental ballis... ahem... carry on
So you’re sure fusion H bombs use pure fusion fuel nowadays? Which warheads for instance so I can look it up in more depth

I also hear Russians never used polystyrene or anything similar; just vacuum
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>>518772558
pretty sure he died in like 2020
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>>518789330
>it is a plasma in that electrons are free of their earthly bonds
So the electrons have moved at least one atom away and the neutrons and protons are just slower but also moved somewhat

>>IF you could compress fuel that hard and for that long you would
>and if I had a big titted autismo gf I would be happy, or so I think
"It’s hard so it’s impossible"
booo

>>Never heard of them
>here's an article by someone adjacent to the excalibur project
>https://www.jstor.org/stable/2874177
>things have moved on since then
>https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/d7r7-46ld
Thnx

Anyways no one replied to my question earlier abo it whether or not Excalibur would actually concentrate enough energy to vaporise the best shield of reentry vehicles hundreds of Km away

I doubt it
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>>518775301
>I don't want to change the system, I want to help jewish companies profit more
That's it, I'm officially a leftist. No more tearing down antifa signs and spray painting swastikas for me. Fuck you you crypto kike faggots. Go worship your dead jew in cyber space you christcuck faggots. Rightoids can all die.
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>>518789640
>Anyways no one replied to my question earlier abo it whether or not Excalibur would actually concentrate enough energy to vaporise the best shield of reentry vehicles hundreds of Km away

3cm of carbon phenolic/RCC/boron nitride/silicon nitride/tantalum hafnium carbide
500km away
Hit by an Excalibur nuclear pumped x day laser from an existing US warhead

Would that have ANY chance at getting through the armor?
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>>518788776
France built their nuclear weapons with the blessing of the US government. Although we don't have a technology sharing agreement like we do with the Bongs, we did agree to tell you what not to do (but could not explicitly tell you what TO do). And not only did you fags build the reactor, you shared hydrodynamic shock simulation data with the Jews after the Test Ban Treaty so they could build one. Said Jews almost assuredly stole the design data from the US made W-88, but used your testing data to actually build a functional one. Single and even two stage nuclear weapons are fairly easy to build. It's procuring and enriching enough uranium to actually make one that's hard. After your enriching uranium, you next major skill check is building a variable yield, multi-stage thermonuclear device (which is hard). There is a reason why the US did hundreds of tests with dozens of different design variants, and the first thermonuclear weapon was the size of a building and built for the test on the island.
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>>518789465
>Weird
very. I have often wondered about the nature of this accident
>you originally said that ablation doesn’t matte
that was in the context of sparkplug
>implying
I think you misread that
>ablation still accelerated mass inwards
you're wondering if there's a reflected shockwave off the tertiary? that goes into the core where the primary and secondary used to be and provides some more compression?
I doubt that could happen.
> fusion H bombs use pure fusion fuel nowadays
nobody has (or will admit to) pure fusion devices
ye olde time gravity bombs were delivered with optional non-fissile jackets to give the field commander some flexibility
modern-ish "dial-a-yield" devices can omit or reduce the tritium boosting to turn the big boom into a wet fart
modern tactical warheads are fusion-boosted fission
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>>518789920

Wait, didn't the Jews piggyback off of the South African nuclear program or was it vice versa?

Imagine being South African, having the bomb, and still handing your country away to that nigger Mandela.

baka
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>>518790267
South Africa helped the jews with logistics for testing their weapon (so called Vela incident) and in return got the information they needed to build some crude but deliverable fission bombs
South Africa holds the distinction of being the only nuclear state that ever went from zero to working design without as much as one nuclear test
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>>518790267
It was a joint deal, but almost certainly the Jews were leading the charge. I assume it was mainly plausible deniability because they 100% knew that Vela would have picked up the x-ray double flash instantly and sniffer planes would be scooping up samples for comparison with IAEA inspection records to figure out where the fissile materials came from.
>Oy vey, what nuclear weapons program?
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>>518790525
Dimona never did get inspected, did it?
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>>518790267
They destroyed their nuclear program so the niggers wouldn't get it
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>>518789920
>France built their nuclear weapons with the blessing of the US government.
First of all there is no such thing as the US governement it’s not United and never was

Different branches agencies and people all Have vastly different opinions about policy

About France, JFK wanted to enter a full technology transfer about nukes with France but then got assassinated
The CIA hated that and pressured the next administration to cancel the cooperation and alliance between France and USA

>Although we don't have a technology sharing agreement like we do with the Bongs,
Bongs don’t have a technology partenership they basically have American nukes under full American control because they’re a puppet state

>we did agree to tell you what not to do (but could not explicitly tell you what TO do).
Again several agencies and administrations had different opinions and stances and even individual people ping ponged between plans and the terms of agreement all the time
Idk how much data was shared but not much, France built the nuke because several of the scientists of Manhattan project were French expats who came back after the war, they had already built a nuke once in the American desert they could do it again
I also heard that the CIA wanted to kill de gaulle for wanting nukes, and that some of the assassination attempts against him are thought to be from that
Again america isn’t a monolith, the government barely functions and is often at war with itself

It’s like the Vietnam war, some parts of the American governement wanted to help France while others wanted the viet Kong to remove the french to weaken colonial powers and make America stronger
Both happening at the same time, some Americans helping the French, some helping the commies
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>>518790267
I mean, what could they do? Blow up their own country?

There was a funny "news clip" in some movie back in the 1980s or 1990s with the Praetoria regime planning to do exactly that. Might have been Robocop.
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>>518774863
>People literally do not use chemical weapons
Except they do. Only CS/CN but those are illegal as well.
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>>518790600
No. If it was, the game would be up instantly.
>You should have (x) kg of plutonium, but we don't see any around here...
>Oy vey, why do you need to see our 300kg of plutonium? I'm shocked that you want to inspect for 100kg of missing plutonium! What would we even do with 30kg of plutonium?
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>>518789920
>And not only did you fags build the reactor, you shared hydrodynamic shock simulation data with the Jews after the Test Ban Treaty so they could build one.
Idk about any of these events it was before my time

>Said Jews almost assuredly stole the design data from the US made W-88, but used your testing data to actually build a functional one.
They never conducted tests themselves?
Anyways do you really believe the rosenbergs who stole secrets for the USSR wouldn’t also give it to Israel?

>Single and even two stage nuclear weapons are fairly easy to build. It's procuring and enriching enough uranium to actually make one that's hard. After your enriching uranium, you next major skill check is building a variable yield, multi-stage thermonuclear device (which is hard).
Variable yield is overrated
Efficiency is where it’s at


>There is a reason why the US did hundreds of tests with dozens of different design variants, and the first thermonuclear weapon was the size of a building and built for the test on the island.
Every country did like hundreds of test
Almost more nukes were blown up in test than stockpiled it’s a actually wild

I’m pretty sure that america and the soviets blew up over a thousand warheads in tests
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>tfw
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>>518771913
Now you have to make fire in short bursts and make the “pew pew”, sound.
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>>518790045
>>you originally said that ablation doesn’t matte
>that was in the context of sparkplug
>>implying
>I think you misread that
>>ablation still accelerated mass inwards
>you're wondering if there's a reflected shockwave off the tertiary? that goes into the core where the primary and secondary used to be and provides some more compression?
>I doubt that could happen.
No, just the secondary, the thing that needs to be compressed by the EM radiation. My attempts at mentally simulating what the atoms are doing yields a sort of accelerating inward cascade from ablation that is faster than the speed of sound in the material, with things flying outwards and inwards, then outwards and inwards then outwards and inwards, until everything is just flying inwards very very fast

>> fusion H bombs use pure fusion fuel nowadays
>nobody has (or will admit to) pure fusion devices
>ye olde time gravity bombs were delivered with optional non-fissile jackets to give the field commander some flexibility
>modern-ish "dial-a-yield" devices can omit or reduce the tritium boosting to turn the big boom into a wet fart
Again I find tuning bombs to be very silly
Just have a few sizes in the inventory idk
Blow it up higher kek
Starfish prime style
sorry satellites you should have been EMP shielded that’s a skill issue

>modern tactical warheads are fusion-boosted fission
I know, but just the fusion fuel at the center can yield a lot of energy even the majority of the total output

Still; considering how crazy H bombs get, I would try my best to create as much fusion as possible with even small nukes

A 1kg 10kt nuke is better than a 200kg 10kt nuke and this can only be achieved through higher device efficiency and fusion
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>>518790730
Bongs build there own and have their own PAL system and sole launch authority. I will say this, it's speculated that Letters of Last Resort give sub commanders the option of putting themselves under US command authority (or apparently unilateral authority to launch their entire compliment of missiles should no communication with the UK government be established). They just use US design data, which we traded for Chevaline. It doesn't matter what other branches of the government think about nukes, it only matters what one branch of the government thinks: The Department of Energy. The CIA or even the DoD has zero authority over dissemination of nuclear weapon design data.
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>>518773777
trips of well spotted
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>>518785582
was a statement, not a manifesto
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>>518791199
>The Department of Energy. The CIA or even the DoD has zero authority over dissemination of nuclear weapon design data.
Yeah right as if politicians presidents CIA glowies or NSA glowies aren’t going to try to use laws or scandals or psyops or pressure or lobbying or assassination a or threats or coercion to make things happen if they strongly feel one way about a topic

Anyways the DoD is nominally under full control of the White House which can appoint or fire anyone in the department starting with the head no? So that would imply the president gets full say but the president can be convinced or influenced or gaslit or bribed or have pre established strong opinions on a topic

Either way, Kennedy wanted a full technology partnership with France about nukes and the next administration canceled the deal.

And the majority agree that JFK was killed by someone in the CIA, it’s not known why specifically but he did a lot of things to piss them off, audit the cia, anti Israel policy, nuke sharing with France, some weird drama with the American Jewish mob (mafia)

So It that’s indeed what happens, you can see how much constitutional authority matters when your job is killing people and you decide you’re just going to kill the decision maker who makes the decisions you don’t like
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>>518790849
The Rosenbergs were before the Israeli government even existed, and it was their asset Fuchs that was the source of the ok information. Fuchs was imprisoned for a decade and then went to work in the Soviet Union on their nuclear weapons program after his release. The Vela test wasn't large enough to be a thermonuclear device, just a single stage. They built their multi-stage using stolen US design data and French simulation data to verify it would work.
>Efficiency is where it's at
Correct, which is why dial-a-yield is much, much better now. Moderated solid hydride>tritium gas. Every country did not do hundreds of tests, only the US and Soviet Union.
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>>518791182
as far as I understand it, they don't "ring" like that
>again I find tuning bombs to be very silly
most war planners these days agree, everyone is trying to miniaturize devices
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>>518791712
>The Rosenbergs were before the Israeli government even existed,
The governement didn’t spawn from the aether
It’s made of people, who were already part of jewish communities and had a strong identity and in group preference

>and it was their asset Fuchs that was the source of the ok information. Fuchs was imprisoned for a decade and then went to work in the Soviet Union on their nuclear weapons program after his release.
lmao
what even

>The Vela test wasn't large enough to be a thermonuclear device, just a single stage. They built their multi-stage using stolen US design data and French simulation data to verify it would work.
Again I don’t know anything about these events

>>Efficiency is where it's at
>Correct, which is why dial-a-yield is much, much better now. Moderated solid hydride>tritium gas. Every country did not do hundreds of tests, only the US and Soviet Union.
I mean highest efficiency you can get
Just dialed to the maximum

If troops need a smaller nuke just build smaller warheads too in your inventory

I hate the idea of dialing DOWN the yield of a nuke for an operational need after you worked so hard for every ton of TNT equivalent and every gram of material in that nuke
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>>518791631
Not even the President of the United States has access to Restricted Nuclear Data without going through the same process as every other person in the DoE that requests access to Restricted Nuclear Data that requires a Q and whatever Sigma clearance levels said knowledge is attached to. You grossly underestimate how close we keep this to the vest. The only thing the DoD does is drop them, and the only Sigma levels data anyone in the DoD has access to is targeting information and weapon staging locations. The DoD doesn't even handle warhead transport. The DoE has an office just for that (Office of Secure Transport).
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>>518771913
will Trump pardon laseranon?
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>>518792062
>most war planners these days agree, everyone is trying to miniaturize devices
So my initial conclusions, that’s good it only took them like 60 years to arrive to the same conclusion kek

>ringing
It was more of a metaphor, it’s a continuous process
But basically half flies outwards half flies inwards. Then it’s time for the stuff flying inwards to explode. Half goes outwards half goes inwards. But the stuff going outwards was already moving inwards. So now it just stands still while the stuff going inwards is compressed twice as hard. Repeat until light pressure runs out. That’s my mental model and it would lead to compression from ablation
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>>518792173
>The only thing the DoD does is drop them, and the only Sigma levels data anyone in the DoD has access to is targeting information and weapon staging locations. The DoD doesn't even handle warhead transport. The DoE has an office just for that (Office of Secure Transport).
But if the president can appoint the head of DoD what stops him from just appointing his buddy Thomas from Harvard and telling him to fire people until they agree to give him any secret data he wants.

>the office of secure transport
They only lost a couple of nukes kek



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