No Tomahawks for Ukraine because it could deplete them. US Army needs them more. xDhttps://x.com/Alex_Oloyede2/status/1978930923891532280
I don't understand why this matters or why Ukraine even needs them. They blow up whatever they want 2000km deep into Russia now, beyond the range of Tomahawks. Russian air defense is a total shambles and simply cannot stop the drones. If they keep up their oil refinery strikes, it will create a massive crisis for Russia and the entire region.
I wonder how much hardware in both Ukraine and Russia have been sold on the black market
>>519078552>I don't understandCorrect. Ukraine does need them, but giving them to Ukraine would demonstrate to Russia the US is directing targeting and firing and actively guiding the tomahawks to strike in side Russia and as Putin said they would understand its Trump's decision to attack Russia directly and that would require Russia to strike back.
>>519078964Putin won't do that though and no one takes his red lines seriously, same as his nuke threats. Why did you choose the homosex memeflag from all the available options?
threat was effective then
>>519079145what threat?
>>519079060>Why did you choose the homosex memeflagcus it reps my homosex peoples. Yes Putty would do that. Putty does not want a nuclear war, but the intelligence agencies of the US and UK are willing to start a nuclear war in a desperate attempt to "defeat" Russia and split up the massive natural resources to get rich and to deny them to China, which is the obvious next target. Trump is under great pressure to attack Russia, Iran, and China, and he wants to focus on China because even that retard knows the US will lose to Russia because Russia has made it very very clear they are not going fight the US in Europe they will strike the US directly.
>>519079611No one is scared of this though. Trump called Russia a paper tiger because it's true. All you have left is gay sex and cringe nuke threats. "China's final waring" meme tier shit.
>>519077831Didn't Ukraine just finish development of some kind of a cruise missile of their own design?
>>519077831At the beginning of the war, the west had an unassailable technological advantage. HIMARS, switchblades, guided shells.Now, all these are outdated and easily countered, and russia is ahead in electronic and drone warfare.If he gives them Tomahawks, or Germany gives them Taurus, the benefits will be another blown up warehouse in Russia, which Ukraine can do anyway, with their long range drones and existing missiles. The drawback will be that another western technology will be studied and countered by Russia and China. The main US combat missile will soon become obsolete, just like excalibur shells which used to be far ahead of russian shells, now get jammed 98% of the time.
The decision is tomorrow. Zelenskyy just arrived in America.
>>519079870Developing something and actually deploying it are two different battles. Cruise missiles are excellent weapons. If these reports are true, and they likely are, Trump is making the right decision. Tomahawks change nothing and only create problems for everyone. Including the Ukrainians because they will bear the brunt of the escalation.>Its wonderful that Trump and Putin are engaging in diplomacy. They are doing their jobs properly. Thank God.
>>519077831you've made at least 8 threads last 16 hours and at least 200 during last 2 months get help churka retard
>Got exactly what I voted for award>>519077831Im so fucking happy. Let eastern europe burn under russia.Fuck jewlensky fuck jewtinIf its not the US of A, let it fucking burn!!! burn baby burn.
>>519077831>>519080573
>>519077831>>519080957
>>519080630>Im so fucking happythey're going to send tomahawks to ukraine
>>519077831TACO trumpKRASNOV trumpKRACO trump
>>519079804>No one is scared of this though.Yeah, Trump just backed off on the tomahawks because, like, reasons and stuff.
>>519077831Russia succeeded something in violet. Probably oil field deals
>>519078552>I don't understand why this matters or why Ukraine even needs them.Because it was never about Ukraine "needing" ordinance to begin with. Zelensky was just pumping Biden for as much free shit as possible because old Joe was offering it. Fucking rat isn't even in Ukraine, he claimed asylum and has been living like a rich kid at a polish ski resort since the Russians began their invasion, but he still wants his free gibs like some welfare nigger.
>>519079060>Putin won't do that though and no one takes his red lines seriously, same as his nuke threats.They do, they're just vastly misrepresented by the media. Always, the threats are conditional, specific and we probably don't know a fraction of what is said behind closed doors.For example, when we sent storm shadow the hedgehog missiles and ATACMS and Ukraine used them ONCE against Russia, they used their oreshnik in anger for the first time and said the next one would go to the production facilities of missiles in the UK (and Germany since they were considering sending Taurus missiles).Suddenly there were no more ATACMS or storm shadow (seriously can we name our tech something less cringe) strikes, and havent been since.If you think you can just wage unchecked proxy war without being hit back you are wrong. Russia is engaging Ukraine on the current terms (resupply+equivalent tech+whatever ukraine can make themselves) willingly because they consider it in their interest and because they consider the costs acceptable. Washington is eager to play this game too because they can damage Russia at a low cost compared to an actual war and they don't need (or want?) to win for their goals. Raise the costs for Russia (more support) and they will react. Actually put them in a position to lose (intervene) and they will react hard.
>>519082408>For example, when we sent storm shadow the hedgehog missiles and ATACMS and Ukraine used them ONCE against Russia, they used their oreshnik in anger for the first time and said the next one would go to the production facilities of missiles in the UK (and Germany since they were considering sending Taurus missiles).>Suddenly there were no more ATACMS or storm shadow (seriously can we name our tech something less cringe) strikes, and havent been since.there were thohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f5x8lL8ygothey just use drones more often because they are cheaper and they have more of them
>>519082848Cant find a decent source records storm shadow usage in 2025. Both Russian and Ukrainian information about attacks in January claim drone strikes. Who knows, maybe they did try to test the line with whatever wsa left of the old batch but Russia didnt care after they were all shot down.If they had access to them they would use them.
>>519081422He's only waiting for his meeting with Putin, which is why Putin cucked to him in the first place.>>519081653Why are you seething so hard about this?>>519082408tl,dr
>>519084413>tl;drRed lines are taken somewhat seriously, evidenced by the US backing down>no tomahawksHappened again.
>>519083982lmao and what do you consider a decent source
>>519084660>Red lines are taken somewhat seriously,Russia has had so many red lines crossed and cucked out, it's China's final warning tier. You look pathetic bro.
>>519077831Oh dear god, he plans to use them on Americans.
>>519083982>>519084752
>>519084752Cant find a Russian or Ukrainian claim of them being used at that time and when they agree on something its usually the case.>>519084824>Russia has had so many red lines crossed and cucked out, it's China's final warning tier. You look pathetic bro.Thats the thing, they haven't.
>>519084974yeah they have lmao
>>519084974here you have TASS as source >>519084973the previous attack after which they used oreshniks was in november 2024 after which russia used oreshnik and there was at least another in january 2025 which i posted source nowmight've been more but didnt find any source about it yet
>>519084973Oh interesting, I never heard about this one. A Ukrainian article I saw earlier today from this date only mentioned drones.
>>519085026proofs?projecting china's final warning on to russia is just pure cope
>>519085078they also declared production of new ones couple months later so likely hohols are saving what they have for some bigger strike and depending on drones for now>On 10 July 2025, MBDA announced that it was resuming production of SCALP/Storm Shadow missiles in 2025, some 15 years since receiving the last order, with the possibility of more missiles being supplied to Ukraine.[14]
>>519085135no, I'm not playing your vrango game. any examples i could give you would just deny anyway so who cares? russia looks weak af now and all you can do is cope
>>519077831>Before giving long ranged missiles to Ukraine, I must talk to Maste-, I mean, Mister Putin >Yes... Yes... I understand, you don't want hoholistan to bomb Moscow like you do Kiev, right? Ok, I'll tell them we have none to spare. See you on the next red carpet meeting! Dasvidania, Master Putin!
>>519085170Man, if they are preparing a big batch to send I wonder how that will go down. The US cucked on tomahawks but keir starmer (wanker) is dumb enough to do absolutely anything>>519085282Yeah, I've already seen the dumb little list that NAFOtards like to spam. Every single threat was conditional and the condition wasn't met.If the US had balls they would bomb Russia like they did Serbia, but they don't. Too scared.
>>519085750remember when they sent the ATACMS lmao?
>>519086051Hiding behind Ukrainians? No ATACMS used for almost a year? No balls lol, American F-35s should be dropping bombs.
>>519077831Didn't he literally promise them like a week ago? I'm confused.
>>519086198remember when NordStream blew up and Russia did nothing?
>>519077831UHG status?
>>519086246No balls to even take credit. It was a few drunk Ukrainians on a yacht, according to your government.
>>519086409So why didn't Putin do anything about it?
>>519085750European countries have a history of conflicts with Russia going back hundreds of years back. Tsarist Russia tended to be an ally of Germany and Austrian Empire, then pivoting to Great Britain and France before WWI. After they got raped by the German armies on the battlefield, Lenin thought it perfect moment (1920) to attack Poland who was just recreated after 123 years of being partitioned and even then Russo-Mongol hordes got forced into chaotic withdrawal, once they got drawn into a meticulously prepared trap under Warsaw. That's how Lenin's dreams of Red Army overruning Europe ended. He'd probably be able to reach Germany at the farthest due to a robust communist movement being active in Germany at the time, waiting for the moment Red Army defeats Poland, which never happened. It was only during Stalin's reign where Soviets came the closest to their ultimate goal of controlling all of Europe.
>>519086535Every European country has a history of conflicts with other European countries, are you retarded or something?We also have a nice tradition of partitioning Poland whenever they get too uppity.
>>519079060>Why did you choose the homosexIs Russian, that's why
>>519084824Maybe you would’ve understood his point better if you didnt tldr his prior post you dumbfuck zoomer faggot
>>519077831Even if we’re extremely generous and assume the US/NATO has a stockpile of 10000 missiles, every single one is operational, fully upgraded and cannot be intercepted with AA or interfered with EW, that’s still not enough to beat Russia. Only really cause a lot of damage to civilian infrastructure, but advances on the front line won’t stop.
>>519086813Yeah it's just that now one is scared of Russia's threats though. They've been saying the same shit forever. Remember all the NATO generals they've killed in the biolabs in Ukraine?
>>519086652Yes, we do, but those conflicts didn't carry into 21st Century. Meanwhile Russia still does their thing, wishing to go back to being the imperial power they once were during Tsarist/Communist times where they siphoned everything useful from nations that had the misfortune of being under their boot.
>>519086461He did He butchered more piggers
>>519077831>earned +1 nothing ever happens awardBoo.
>>519086912Definitely a bot
>>519086981Hey man, the 21st century has just begun so dont keep your hopes down. That partition can still happen, we just need Germany to wake up.
>>519077831We only have around 4000 Tomahawk missiles in total, and can build somewhere around 55 per year.There are simply not enough Tomahawks in the world to do enough damage to Russia to make them quit AND keep enough stockpiled for everything else.
>>519085059Weren’t those theones that blew up on launch?
>>519078552>They blow up whatever they want 2000kmNo they don't. They fly relatively small drones with limited payload. That's good enough to do superficial damage but not enough to destroy anything. That's precisely why they want Tomahawks, which carry a real payload, and why Russia would consider it an escalation.
>>519084974> Thats the thing, they haven't.How mnay times has Putin “threatened” muh nukes or muh WW3 when shit was not going his way? Since day fucking one lmao.
>>519082408What the fuck is wrong with you? You absolute retard. Stop spewing antisemetic hate speech before the Scotland Yard drags you off to be reeducated.
>>519085530Beggars cannot be choosers.This applies to polaks too.
>israel will need them when they break the ceasefire>also we might want to blow up Venezuela for some vague reasonAnyway, can't wait to see the little grifting hohol kike chimp out about this
>>519087380You would think that if you only read tabloid headlines and not direct quotes
>>519087404I'll scream NIGGER over and over until they have seizures
>>519087617Lmao, yeah now we’re pretending that Putin doesn’t go on tv to threaten NATO every month with threats. The Russian cope is getting ridiculous. How many Orishnik missiles did he try sending to “scare” NATO?
Because BRIC globalist needs Russia to take over Europe. They don't want Puting puppet giving them to someone who can use them.
>>519084974>Thats the thing, they haven't.The thing is, they have. Syria fell and that was directly supposed to be the start of WW3.
>>519079804Why do you retards keep wanting to find out so badly? What if Putin falls ill all of a sudden and gets replaced by someone who doesn't give a fuck? Or any number of scenarios or "misunderstandings". You dont even care about ukraine
>>519087135You and Germonies can't deal with Muslims, niggers and Indians properly, you think you could take on 38 million people insanely pissed that their country, which our ancestors fought for to be independent, has been traitorously partitioned again? You' ain't ready for that. Germoney is no longer who they used to be. The people used to be proud of being Germans. They dealt with shitskins in their colonies as required. They didn't invite them to the German Reich. In order to be considered Germoid, you needed to have paperwork confirming that at least some of your ancestors were German and you had to speak German fluently. Some peoples were considered Polonized Germans (Silesians and "Goralenvolk"). You could become a volksdeutche if you had racial qualities present in "a typical German phenotype". Anyway. Germans of today are in a sorry state. They wouldn't be able to partition Bavaria even if their lives depended on it.
>>519084660>Red lines are taken somewhat seriously, evidenced by the US backing downTomahawks are obsolete 70s tech, they're not even supersonic, let alone hypersonic. The fear of nuclear escalation is overstated and relies on a poor understanding of nuclear strategy and targeting. The real reason Tomahawks weren't given to Ukraine is because the US government can't give them launchers. There are something like 2 Typhon launchers currently in existence, and they're both deployed in Asia. The US also doesn't have all that many Tomahawks, and most of the stockpile are early models which are even less capable than the more recent ones. Giving Ukraine the Typhons along with all the latest Tomahawks would be tantamount to telling Israel, Taiwan, and South Korea that they're on their own.
but we can buy israel 10x50,000$ missiles per non-payload mortar or bottle rocket launched at it
Those are for my country zelenski is a bad goyim
>>519087890Tomahawks can be launched from planes or ships or trucks.
>another bluff called with Trump losing the potPlease be fake.
>>519087851>b-but what if Russia nukes!Oh god, shut up, you stupid faggot. Putin is literally the only one driving this war forward. Most of the country’s economy has been cannibalized to feed the war factories and everyone is poor. As soon as Putin dies, it will be like the 90’s again, people toppling KGB statues and whatnot.
>>519077831The 200 Tomahawks Ukraine was gonna get over the span of 5 years were not gonna achieve anything
>>519088004Are you trying to show off all those extra chromosomes you've got?
>>519078552The bigger question is why they don't bomb Russian (((elites))).
>>519085530But you ran away to be le epic frontline nafo internet brigade. Coward
>>519087450Hm? I don't think you applied this saying in a right context. Makes me suspect you're just another Indian or ruskie on a VPN.
>>519088101>Armchair general comes in to dilate about specifics againNo one cares tranny
I don't think that Tomohawk hand should count.Analysis: https://youtu.be/FuDctJYp36I?t=138Trump should try again with nukes.
>>519087801Funny you should mention Syria, I assume you remember the 2015 summer party off the coast?>>519087890Valid points. I completely agree possible retalitations would be conventional or hybrid and not directly at the USA. Although I consider bombing production facilities in certain european countries within the realms of possibility.I remember we wanted to spam tomahawks in Libya etc because they were replacements in the works and eventual maintenance would have been more than they were worth. Theres a good chance Trump was just running his mouth and doesn't even know what they are beyond something that goes boom. ATACMS were a more relevant threat and now they aren't hitting Russia.
>>519087731He's got scared himself. After that recent drone activity from Russia over Poland, now it's back to peaceful once NATO countries nearby sent their jets and anti drone systems for a small show.
>>519088436The stupid fuck was trying to play KGB gams by telling Poland “uhhhh that’s Ukraine drones!” And then they get busted because they forgot to tell Belarus about Putin’s bitch plan to “false flag” the drones like a jew. The whole thing is an embarrassment.
>>519086993>>519087033no need to be triggered>>519087309well they blow up russian oil refieneries at will now so that's omething
>>519087851No one is scared of Russians threats anymore. They're been repeated over and over and it's just stale now.
>>519088087Zelensky needs people. He should demand the return (as deserters) of all Ukrainian men who crossed the border illegally after he declared it closed plus repatriation of Ukrainians who reached fighting age but are abroad. I want this sniveling scum to be repatriated with their nezavistnaya ukraina so badly. Pieces of shit who demand more from us even though they've been given, per capita, more than ANY POLE ASKING FOR THE SAME KIND OF HELP. And absolute majority of them aren't from territories that are currently fought over. Scum.
>>519088157Huh? This site is 18+, that's one thing. Second thing you don't know english language and are ostensibly from Australia. Take a break, Ivan. Maybe change your VPN to something more believable, like India.
>>519088249>specificsIf you think "they have no way to use them, and we barely have enough for ourselves" to be specifics, what do you classify as generalities? You're clearly just a retard, but I am desperately hoping that you're actually some incredible autist who will explain some sublimely pedantic reason why Tomahawks should be provided to a country that can't use them based upon some utterly inane principle with no bearing on reality.>>519088333>Valid points.I am gratified that you think so, you seem like a fairly clear thinker, so I feel validated. >I completely agree possible retalitations would be conventional or hybrid and not directly at the USA.While that is a valid concern, I think that a bigger concern than the possible retaliations would be that the precautionary measures against the potential deployment of nuclear tipped Tomahawks would require a higher level of readiness for Russia's nuclear forces. The USA would never actually deploy nuclear warheads to Ukraine, but Russia would not rely on the US government being rational, they've learned better the hard way.>we wanted to spam tomahawks in LibyaI'm mildly annoyed by the use of the word "we" when talking about the actions of your countries government. We shouldn't accept responsibility for their crimes, we should confine responsibility to those who actually deserve it, lest it be diluted.>Theres a good chance Trump was just running his mouth and doesn't even know what they areI'm not a betting man, but if I were ever offered the opportunity to bet on Trump not knowing or understanding something, I would put down every penny I have.>ATACMS were a more relevant threatTwice jack shit is still jack shit.
>>519089198imagine reading that lmao
>>519088959you just want them to fight so Russia doesn’t reach Poland and it’s not your turn to man the trench. >absolute majority of them aren't from territories that are currently fought over. Kinda makes sense they don’t want to fight for these territories?
>>519088578Belarus, for the first time in decades, sent us an early, preventive warning that there are drones coming our way, without stipulating who they belonged to. Indeed, the whole thing was silly.
>>519077831war is coming, just u wait bois.
>>519077831No Tomahawks because donnie is a russian cocksucking traitor agent.
>>519088812>>519087309 #>well they blow up russian oil refieneries at will now so that's omethingI know you're not arguing in good faith, but oil refineries are huge compounds. Just because you see storage tanks on fire it doesn't mean the operation was "destroyed". Imagine your local gas station, how many small drone strikes do you think you need to stop it's operation? You may burn one pump, the ceiling or the door to the convenience store, but not the whole thing
>>519089198>I'm mildly annoyed by the use of the word "we" when talking about the actions of your countries government. We shouldn't accept responsibility for their crimes, we should confine responsibility to those who actually deserve it, lest it be diluted.Completely agreed, I need to try more to avoid this. I was refering to the US and UK collectively so thats how I ended up there.>Russia would not rely on the US government being rational, they've learned better the hard way.And relying on them to ever keep an international agreement is like relying on the scorpion not to sting you. Rough combo.
>>519089345I don't even want them to fight if they don't want to. I just want them out my fucking country, is it a concept too hard for you to grasp?
>>519088959Every Ukrainian who dodges the draft is a white man not dying for a fucking jew, whatever his personal reasons, political, moral, spiritual. Survival is also valid.
>>519089767Oil refineries are weak easy targets that burn well. Hence Russian gasoline shortages and seething.
>>519089767Lmao, imagine talking about “good faith” and your counter argument to CLEARLY butning and half destroyed refineries all around Russia (including gas shortages) is “muh they’re ok still”.
>>519088812Kek. Did you really fall for the kike meme that that gas station of the world is running out of oil?
>>519089964Anon, do you know the difference between crude and processed oil? If you don’t, stop right there and save yourself further embarrassment.
>>519089905>>519089929Bots
>>519077831Oh wow look at that MSM spent days lying about Trump's foreign policy, AGAIN. So sad they lost their Pentagon clearance.
sending tomahawks to ukraine is begging for russia to fuck our shit up
>>519089964remember when Russia running out of tanks was a meme? yet here we are lmao
>>519090074Shill
Ukraine was a military spending binge. not enough help for Ukraine to win, but just enough for a years long, profitable war. this is the classic American ally treatment. ask saddam hussein about it.
>>519090165>he says as Russia devotes over 40% of their country’s GDP to the war factories>still hasn’t won
>>519089345You speak as if you were underschooled. Firstly, they crossed the border illegally by bribing the Ukrainian Border Guards. Second, they're asking for free housing, food and additional money for THEIR kids out of money that POLES pay. And like I said, their homes are standing safely in the zones far from fighting and aren't destroyed. Majority of them just want to game our system to get expensive things for free, getting rich out of our taxes. Sure, there are Ukrainians who just silently work here and ask for nothing, but they're an absolute minority. That's why our President made a good decision - vetoed the law which would give ALL Ukrainians access to our health services and money for kids. Now, only those who work here LEGALLY and pay taxes in Poland can ask for this kind of help. But no more housing etc. and it's time to plan their repatriation, since they're more of a burden on us than their work is worth. Like 98% is just unqualified workers. If not more.
>>519089299>a single paragraph worth of text>imagine reading that lmaoI blame AOL, Microsoft, and Apple for you. Letting people who can't compile their own operating system use the internet was their mistake, and everyone is paying for it but them. By everyone I mean humans, not you.>>519089778>Completely agreed, I need to try more to avoid this. I was refering to the US and UK collectively so thats how I ended up there.I know it's hard. I still do it sometimes. It's transcended propaganda and become linguistic convention. >And relying on them to ever keep an international agreement is like relying on the scorpion not to sting you. Rough combo.The government of the Russian Federation has been childishly naive since its inception. It is now entering its thirties with a lot of hard learned lessons under its belt. It has learned that realpolitik or the realist school of politics is wrong, since not every country is ruled by sane level headed people like Putin, Russia's government has a hard road ahead of it before they stumble upon public choice theory. Woe betide us when they masterr politics and economics as well as they have COFM calculations. The Russian habit of prioritizing theory over practice may lead to slow adaptation in the very short term, but their mastery of operational art can only be denied by the congenitally defective.
>>519089903Good for them. All would be fine if they weren't here in such massive numbers, gaming our systems which have been forced to reform EXACTLY because of Ukrainians enriching themselves on our dime. Here's helping those who you now call "white people", (who can't even throw their trash into the nearby bin), where in every other thread you'd call Slavs collectively "non-white". Typical, childish discussion tactics. You're either a hohol yourself or never had to deal with them - yet.
>>519090059You realize you can process crude with a fucking copper still, right? Even if the refineries were put out of commission (none have been), they are dirt cheap to repair and replace.
>>519090102Oh, cool. You're just a NAFO nigger. Carry on, finest of israel's shabbos.
>>519090745If you add up everything I’m sure Poland profits more from Ukrainians than the other way around. Ukrainians transiting through Poland spend a ton of money on everything, like for example since Ukraine is no flight zone any air travel is done through polish airports as they’re the closest, those who work — are severely underpaid AND pay taxes on top of it. Many ukrainian companies moved shop into Poland solely because of war and western nations support I believe runs through Poland too. They’re not enriching themselves on your dime, it’s Poland just giving back some of what it gained. It’s good business for you.
>>519091127>Let me tell you about your country and what the statistics look like Look, I'm tired of explaining to you, that since majority of them crossed illegally, they also work illegally, paying no taxes. Thanks to paying no taxes, they earn as much as Poles, in some situations more if they have some skills of use. Many of them, at the same time, sign up for refugee help (since they're not in the system as already working). Need I add more or will you defend your countrymen to the death?
>>519091127Money is subject to supply and demand just like everything else. A euro the EU gave to Ukraine that is spent by a Ukrainian refugee fleeing slavery and death at the hands of the Ukrainian regime is not adding any goods or services (prostitution excepted) in Poland, so those euros are simply inflating the money supply, making the rest of Poland poorer.
>>519077831Gay I want TZD
>>519091350It’s legal for women to cross the border. Here you already have the majority of refugees. There are also tons of exemptions for legally crossing the border plus if someone ended up occupied by Russia generally they can leave Russia and enter the eu legally without crossing Ukrainian border. After that they might decide to come to Poland because they have family there or whatever other reason. And do it LEGALLY. >paying no taxesDude you have VAT in your country. If people purchase anything they already pay taxes. Same with fuel and tolls and etc etc. There could be a few bad apples here and there who are net abusers, but thats not the rule>>519091359It’s adding to the goods and services by allowing to import more shit into Poland from the world market. And Poland takes a cut. Polish companies sure do. Also nobody pays employees more than they produce and there’s tons of Ukrainians employed in Poland, producing goods and services.
>>519091771>It’s adding to the goods and services by allowing to import more shit into Poland from the world market.The euro allows Poland to export some of the inflation. That doesn't fix the problem, it just spreads it around a little. Germany is pretty much the only economically productive country in Europe. So you're really just saying "the Germans will pay for it".>Also nobody pays employees more than they produceObvously. That's like arguing against someone telling you about gravity that heavy things weigh more. I am aware of that, I'm doing the equivalent of explaining that heavy things don't fall faster. I'm not telling you things that people who aren't retarded don't figure out on their own.>and there’s tons of Ukrainians employed in Poland, producing goods and services.Poland is a welfare queen of a state, so either you are admitting they don't pay their share of taxes, or you are just fucking lying.
>>519077831I hope Putin will fly the next meeting with Trump over Poland.Jest imagine the seething!
>>519092238Why are you assuming everything is in euro? There’s also help from usa coming in dollars and you also have SAVINGS of refugees.
>>519092238Mostly it’s China producing consumer goods and eu certainly doesn’t have a groceries problem since it fucking bans import of Ukrainian food.
>>519092379He should fly in in a Mig-31. "Oh, sorry, I was in a hurry, I set my alarm wrong, time zones and all that, fortunately I had the option to travel at mach 3".>>519092799Same problem. It's all increasing the supply of currency. You're demonstrating a very Keynesian view of economics right now.
>>519085750You can't even have a spork or post NIGGER without getting raped by a Bobby and your navy is being scrapped from a lack of sailors when you have a serious unemployment problem, why the fuck do you think you get an opinion?
whatever, who cares, to the last hohol
>Alex_oloyede2VGH, DER WHITE RACE
>>519093927breh
>>519093977Cope.
>>519077831I guess the phone call with Putin went really well. I wonder where we would be at right now with Kamala as president though.
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>>519094815>Putin's Russian army LoL>Pic of Russians- a state that crosses multiple time zone from pacific to EuropeI don't get it
>>519090558>paragraph worth of textexactly>>519091007remember though?
>>519090386>ce they're more of a burden on us than their work is worthMillions of extra white people skewing young and after 1st generation you can't even tell them apart from the locals. Sounds like not the worst problem to have especially in Poland which has one of the lowest birth rates in the world
>>519093927Lmao. "People can't believe I'm niggerian" Either it's an extreme cope since he looks like a typical lightskin nigger, or whatever place he lives in is basically devoid of Russians and filled with mixed race La Luz Extinguidos.
>>519095164The same guy that is openly racist towards these (quite obviously) North Koreans in Russian gear, instantly starts screaming about neonazism and racism when ruskie points out he's a jew.
>>519096863>can't tell them apart from the locals Yeah, I'm done with you. You literally have no idea. Ukrainians are easily discernable without hearing them speak.
>>519090276They're not just fighting Ukraine. This isn't a normal war. Imagine in ww1 Germany has a magic portal in Berlin the allies can't touch where they send all the people that wanna leave to get taken care of for free in a different dimension so they dont gotta worry about keeping them warm and fed and the troops dont have that excuse to desert. And out of the portal comes bags of cash and weapons. How much longer would that war have lasted. They didnt have to fight to the last man before things got too unstable at home that the leaders feared a revolt whereas Ukraine is a security apparatus with a country attached
>>519097378>The same guy that is openly racist towards these (quite obviously) North Koreans in Russian gear, instantly starts screaming about neonazism and racism when ruskie points out he's a jew.Might be North Koreans, or native Siberians. They are actually smart and ferocious, honest people, because they lived in a harsh climate, where evolution pushes people to develope such traits, kinda like Europeans, but looks asiatic, cuz very harsh winters.
>>519077831>If you hit us with Tomahawks, we're going to destroy you, Ukraine, and Israel, Mr. President. >Oh shit. OK, I will go tell Mistress Adleson, right away.
>>519078964Absolute KEK. Putin wouldn't dare strike the US and you're delusional if you think he would. As much as that manlet egomaniac likes to live out his Soviet style, tough man world domination fantasies he loves his opulent lifestyle too much to risk it attacking the US (which would cause WW3 and end with the complete restructuring of the political hierarchy in Moscow)
>>519078552Lmao this entire post is cope. Ukraines logistics are totally destroyed and it doesnt even have enough men to hold ground. Russia gains every day, and The Ukraine will never get that land back.
Daily reminder that the US produces only 55 Tomahawks a year meanwhile Russia produces 600 Kalibrs with much better specs xD Trump is right, he would need to use entire available stock of these missiles to make any difference in case of Ukraine. Deindustrialisation and dependence on foreign suppliers is a serious problem.
>>519097496Bullshit. They are east slavs, not eskimos. You're telling me if someone offered you 10k euro to tell apart the Ukrainian and polish kids in a small group but you get shot in chest if you get it wrong you'd take that deal? Don't forget most of the people in western Poland are descended from those relocated from eastern Poland after ww2 where poles and ukrainians were living on top of each other. The genes will be similar in a spectrum just like the language
>>519098265For fiscal year 2025, the Department of Defense plans to procure only 22 Tomahawk missiles (all for the Marine Corps, with none for the Navy).22 a fucking year xD
>>519096863Also, please do take these "white people" to your country (contact your politicians or create a movement to help them come over) if you consider them such a boon to a foreign country. Memeflag hohol. You're swarthy, black hair, black eyes, the minority of Ukrainians who look white are progeny of Russian settlers. Most of your nation is just a rape container with Tatars, Russians and some Turkic influence thrown together, which is why you resemble Turks, while your propaganda photos only show people of Russian ancestry. You can lie on here to outsiders, but not to Poles who, unfortunately, see you every day, hohol. "White people", my fucking sides. Can't wait when they start acting like white people you claim them to be and not Jews. Which they do look closer to.
>>519098265Its a political escalation more than anything. If they allow the tomahawks next will be the German Taurus missiles
>>519098265>>519098351Funny thing is that Polish politicians think it is WW2 or Cold War all over again and the US has unlimited industrial capabilities. If they knew the truth, they would be probably sucking American circumcised dick with smaller enthusiasm. Or maybe not. They have not much choice anyway xD
>>519098598Germany assembled 40 Tauruses a year, based on the past production facilities without upgrades, as of March 2025. Output has been suspended since 2024 due to lack of government orders xD Production fully depends on crucial foreign resources and imported components like engine, guidance and global electronics/explosives, so it radically increases supply chain risks.
>>519098274Yeah I would. I grew up with an Ukrainian kid (school friend) who came from a family that was resettled from the Przemyśl region in order to change the ethnic make-up and break the Ukrainians into small, isolated groups. They assimilated nicely, only difference being their Orthodox religion. The "Newkrainians" are easily discernible. Young kids tend to have light hair that darkens with age (I was completely light blonde) so you using kids as to prove your point is retarded. They're gonna look like their parents around 10-12 years old. Either go back to your "white people" Ukraine, take them whenever you come from or shut the fuck up, hohol. Perhaps 10% of you are white people, the rest is what I described before.
>>519098549Im not Ukrainian and I dont care how you rationalize it with your politics or historical theories whether they're correct or not. You can't tell them reliably apart without any other clues. Im sure a Thai nationalist will insist they and Laotians also look nothing alike
>>519097942Those guys probably aren't North Koreans. The North Korean forces that were sent to help defend Kursk were mostly from the XI Infantry Corps. Anyone over the age of 30 is transferred from the regular military to one of the reserve units, where they continue to serve until about 60. Those guys look over 30 to me, and Asians tend to look younger than they are.
>>519077831Hes going be using them on california, duh
>>519098932Its close enough. By your metric you would even more upset by Austrian refugees because they have darker hair and therefore not white. Politics and history aside you can't find any other nationality that would assimilate easier and faster except maybe belorussians. There's no chance of them maintaining a a separate out group because the languages and culture are too similar unlike brown migrants. Subsequent generations will speak better Polish than Ukrainian or forget their previous language completely. Maybe if they were all sent to one region of Poland it would be different but thats not the case. Its basically a raw pop and gdp boost, depending on how much of a drain the retired ones are and will be
>>519098800Yeah but until theres ww3 they can send some of them and escalate things, so the Russians have to escalate back. That's my concern
>>519077831>noooo you have to gib us free shit
>>519099058>using composite faces Yeah, like I said, you not only know what you're talking about, you're also underschooled. Meaning, you're either a typical hohol or underage.
>>519099821I'm wasting time talking to literal children, Jesus Christ. I'd be fine with Austrians because they actually act like white people, not merely appear to be. No more responses to memeflags trying to tell me, a guy in Poland, how hohols look and act. Holy fuck.
>>519098932My kosher family from moms side lived in Huta Stepanska in II RP. It was small village, with mostly Polish population, few Jewish families (including mine) and few Ukrainian families. They were rather assimilated Jews with their own local shop and farm. They even survived German army passing the village, by some miracle Germans did not mass-shoot them like it was happening all over Ukraine. They would probably still live there if they didnt have to escape UPA massacres in 1943. Eventually they all ended up in Wroclaw where i was born as well. If my family was not assimilated, if they lived in shtelt and spoke only Yiddish, they would never survive. Death ratio in shtelts was 100%.
>>519100359Also, Ukrainian children act like their retarded parents. They cause trouble all the time, I had to tell them to fuck off because they were throwing rocks at windows in empty buildings, also trying to destroy as much as they could. They think they can do whatever they want in here, that's how they're brought up (vandalism is on the rise precisely ever since they started flowing here) meanwhile in Ukraine they risk getting their asses beat by strangers for destroying stuff. White Ukrainians are mostly those who stayed behind. What flowed out are people who don't consider themselves Ukrainian, instead taking on Jew behavior. If Poland was attacked, this scum would run to Germany and neighboring countries. That is all. Educate yourself.
>>519100520Yep, to this day Ukrainians praise the UPA murderers who didn't spare any Polish family they got their hands on and killed mixed Ukrainian-Polish families as well. "How dare you not love those" white people"!? Lmao.
>>519100261>>519100359You're bullshitting. If you see some random university student with a hipster beard and glasses walking down the street you'll have no idea if hes polish or ukrainian until he opens his mouth and maybe not even then. that you imply you can tell 90% of them apart from Russians is also complete horse shit. You can not like that they're there but the fact that they assimilate much easier than any possible white group (let alone Indians and Africans which was the other option) isn't debatable
>>519100629It's irrelevant. If a polish baby was moved to Ukraine would they grow up acting any differently if you control for socioeconomic stuff ? If poles and Ukrainians are so racially different then by that logic polish immigrants to America or germany would be different but the 2nd generation is exactly like any other burger or kraut
>>519077831US will send tomahawks to Ukraine as they did everything Zelensky asked so far. Trump changes his quotes every day, but the policy stays the same.
>>519077831Can Putin finally kill the remaining hohols please? I'm tired of paying for them.
>>519100790Like I said, keep trying Ivan. You picked a wrong person to bullshit, try an American or something. All that was needed to be said, was said, which is why you're completely hang up on the matter "how they look" and that, somehow, you can't see the ruskie (or turkish for the swarthy ones) features. Esto es el fin.
>>519095189Bro you're literally an illiterate little monkey, but it's okay.
>>519101048You aren't paying for them, European countries are buying your weapons and sending them to Ukraine.
>>519077831Trump fears Vova thus the bitching out on the Tomahawks. They don't call him TACO for nothing. Literally he's the worst, most embarrassing US president in history
>>519100520Thats how this village looks today, thats where my Jewish family lived up to 1943. It is placed in Western Ukraine now. I bet not much changed since II RP there. I was there once trying to find exact place where house, shop and farm of my family was located. I found only house but shop and farm were not there anymore, only field instead.
>>519101123Desperate young woman , many of them very pretty are flooding my country.The polack finds a reason to ruin a thread with complaints about Ukie refugees.
Would you look at that! Trump Always Chickens Out is real.
>>519101803Every day President Trump reduces the chances of America getting entangled in the European shit show.Before President Trump's inauguration, Americans were rightfully concerned that we were drawing close to a hot war with Russia.We didnot even know who was making the decisions. Joe Biden was certainly not in charge. Kamala Harris was not calling the shots.I do notcare what any no guns Euro faggot from Germany, England or France thinks.George Washington warned future Americans about entangling alliances. The costs of these European "alliances" are not worth any small benefit America might accrue.All of these Euro faggots immediately start squealing like a French whore as soon as Americans question where our money is going.Fuck all of these no guns Euro faggots and their alliance.The globalists want to grind Russia down with constant conflict. Now that Ukraine is spent they want to spend America's youth and treasure against Russia. The European politicians and EU bureaucrats are controlled by anti American globalists. These globalist controlled politicians and bureaucrats used lies and deceit in attempts to lure America into a war with Russia the American people did not want. America is better off distancing itself from those that try to draw us into war. America is better off without these "allies".
>>519078552kkeep me posted
>>519101123What the fuck are you even talking about? You said only 10% have the russian features that make them white which is already bullshit. Second if in pic related the polish guy changed into civillian clothes and pretended to be that Ukrainian woman's wife and you saw them together on the street or in the supermarket if you claim you'd identify them as a mixed race couple you're lying. And if that kid stays hes gonna grow up more polish than Ukrainian whether his mom likes it or not. Simple as
>>519101879Da, comrade. Clam up and your empire will survive just fine. :)You're either a rusbot or a retard. US chose the path of an empire a long time ago, if you decide to no longer be an empire, your empire will simply fall. South Africa will look peaceful compared to that.But you're probably just a russian bot, so it's not important what you think.
>>519077831Fucking hilarious how mutts are now pretending their little khazar scheme in the Ukraine is 'Europe's war'. Truly the bestest goys
>>519101879Presidents dont control the machine that runs defense and foreign policy. It didn't matter if it was a D or R potus in charge during the cold war either
>>519089929>half destroyed refineries all around RussiaThere are no half-destroyed refineries all around Russia.Look, back when the Houthis did similar attacks against Saudi Arabian refineries, they were operational again (with reduced capacity) under 48 hours, and fully restored in a few weeks.A refinery is a very large infrastructure (in terms of surface). To properly destroy it, you would need strategic bombers (pretty much the reasons those bombers exist). Even real missiles like Tomahawks would do partial damage, unless you sent dozens of them. When the US bombed Syrian air base a few years ago, the base itself was not destroyed, they effectively just sent one missile per plane (obviously, the effect is the same since planes are the most valuables target in an airbase).A refinery is not some sort of video game object that will completely explode entirely if you create a small spark somewhere.... They're designed on purpose to *not* completely explode if there is an issue somewhere.I'm not saying Ukrainian attacks have no effect at all, but it's not disaster that is painted by some. If they're lucky, the drone will hit a part of the refinery that is a bit more critical and harder to replace than just a tank.
>>519102243Also
>>519100754My Jewish family always used to say that Ukrainians were x100 worse than Germans. It must be rather an original perspective through prism of Holocaust survivor testimonies. But i talked to few Israeli Jews who had similar experiences, so maybe my family aint as exceptional as i think.
