its over
>>519327665Kursk offensive will go down as Zelensky's downfall like Stalingrad was for Hitler
>>519327747Kursk was Zelensky's Ardennes
>>519327665There’s still a whole city next door. Ukraine will regroup and counter
i feel like it's the same yank doing the weeb union update threads every day
>>519327878I'm glad to see that youre alive.
>>519327665Notice how Russians stopped advancing last time Trump met Putin. Now they're advancing again and they're meeting again. This war seems orchestrated.
>>519327878Just like all the other cities Russia retook, right?
It took them like 1.5 years lmao
>>519327665>Hohols lost>its over>>519327747>>519327810Zelensky himself on the kursk nuclear objective:https://files.catbox.moe/ht1lmt.mp4 >"Russia thinks they are very strong, but if we wanted to occupy their nuclear powerstation, we would do it" we COULD do it, but we never wanted to, because we understand what this would mean, that we would be the same as Russia"ukraine has had an entire "vietnam"-scale DLC side-war in kursk where:>67,000+ ukrainians killed in ~8 months in kursk>7,000+ pieces of armorby comparison,*the US lost roughly ~52,000 killed in Vietnam over ~7 yearsukraine had a 'generation changing' 'vietnam' in kursk, over tik-tok views at a nuclear power plant that never happenedhttps://archive.ph/PsfDQukraines stated objective was to seize the Kursk nuclear power plant (Kursk NPP) to use it as 'nuclear blackmail' against Russia during "negotiations" the idea was, ukraine would seize the plant, then demand Russia give everything back to the 1991 borders, immediately leave their territory, to extradite Putin and "Putins regime" to the hague, then 'demilitarize' and balkanize Russia(this isnt a 'joke' either)>OR ELSEthe plant would be destroyed, spreading radioactive contamination on Russian soil (Russia would be blamed anyway)the entire Kursk campaign was supposed to conclude with capturing the nuclear plant to secure the "asymmetric" nuclear threat, since ukraine doesnt have nukes
>>519327747Zaporozhye was Zelenskys KurskKursk(all 13 miles deep of it lol) was Zelenskys Ardennes offensive.>>519327878About that.... its the same pocket. No way out lmao.
>>519328410it was all londons direction, not fucking zelensky holy shit
>>519327665How many Russians died for that?
>>519328248>67,000+ ukrainians killed in ~8 months in kursk>7,000+ pieces of armorSauce?
>>519327747>Kursk offensive will go down as Zelensky's downfall like Stalingrad was for HitlerKursk will go down as Zelensky's Kursk. lolI think Bakhmut was Stalingrad.
>>519328088>Notice how Russians stopped advancing last time Trump met Putin. Now they're advancing again and they're meeting again. This war seems orchestrated.Absolutely, like some kind of a fucking dance, fucking fake war. When both sides can stop it at any moment literally be declaring nuclear ultimatum.At least when folks were dying in WWII - they knew it wasn't a fucking game. But now it totally is. US (evil fucks), nuked Japs and war was over in a week. Everyone known this can be over as soon as we'll get tired of it. But seems that our reptiloids need this to keep us docile!Fucking FAKE war!
>>519327665Why do you keep remaking this thread?
>>519328563>How many Russians died for that?Probably few dozens, if you talk about this last bit, but overall in Pokrovsk probably tens of thousands.Your point being?
>>519329820Bro you do know that you're next on the chopping block, right? Do you think the Russians that rape your sister and mother will give a fuck about how many pro-Russian posts you made on 4chan?
>>519327967/chug/ is seething about you again lel
>>519329955>Bro you do know that you're next on the chopping block, right? Do you think the Russians that rape your sister and mother will give a fuck about how many pro-Russian posts you made on 4chan?Lol, I know, those guys are utterly fucking crazy. I can barely relate to them.But you know, still better to go fighting to literally eradicate my language, culture and identity.
>>519328638Russia today, probably
>>519330009>againi think i know who you're talking about but i'm not himstill funny
>>519327665>Temporarily closed>Temporarily
>>519329591The only problem with that is that Ukies were on the defensive.How do you even classify Bakhmut?It's a story of both sides continuing to fight even though everyone else was telling them to leave.
>>519327665MMM PORKROAST NOM NOM
>>519327665what is happening?we need spy reports
Fake maps manipulated by ziggers, they have barely reached it and will be kicked out soon
>>519328248>ukraine has had an entire "vietnam"-scale DLC side-war in kursk where:>>67,000+ ukrainians killed in ~8 months in kursk>>7,000+ pieces of armor>by comparison,>*the US lost roughly ~52,000 killed in Vietnam over ~7 years>ukraine had a 'generation changing' 'vietnam' in kursk,Holy shit. Funny thing is nafo fags were gloating like it was an epic win.
>>519327967Based if true
>>519328638>Sauce?
>>519327665A prior map showed the Russians taking Porkroast from the south. Member when someone posted about how Porkroast's apartment complexes had been taken over? I am getting suspicious of all these maps.
>>519328248The summer oinkfensive and the Kursk debacle will go down in history as some of the dumbest military strategic decisions in modern warfare. NATO made Ukrainian commanders look like an absolute joke with trying this maneuver warfare bullshit that only worked 20 years ago because the enemy didn’t have unlimited drones. It’s not like they didn’t know this coming, Ukraine should have mined every inch of the border and built a maginot-style line of fortifications that spanned hundreds of kilometers. Instead they fell for meme-neuver warfare. I’m convinced the to the last hohol thing was official US policy. They never cared about Ukrainian sovereignty, they only cared about using ukros as zerg rush meat wave mercenaries to do one thing and one thing only- kill as many Russians as they could before getting oinked. Grim. Truly demonic shit. America is the great satan and I hope Ukraine is eye opening to our so called “allies” that America cares about one thing and one thing only and that’s destroying shit and flooding your country with Jews and Indians. Why anyone would to “ally” with America when they play these bullshit power games is beyond me, you will always be a pawn to be sacrificed so Americans can keep stuffing their faces with basedslop
>>519328638>Sauce?>>519330326>>519331266lmao, awful sensitive talking point for you isnt it?https://voxukraine.org/en/unfounded-over-76000-ukrainian-soldiers-died-in-the-kursk-regionhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0q198zyppqo>"Western officials estimate that Ukraine's Kursk offensive involved about 12,000 troops. They were some of their best-trained soldiers, equipped with Western-supplied weapons including tanks and armoured vehicles. ">"Dmytro said many Ukrainians retreated on foot with "guys walking 15km to 20km". The situation, he said, had turned from "difficult and critical to catastrophic".>"In a message on 14 March, Dmytro added: "Everything is finished in the Kursk region... the operation was not successful.">"He estimated that thousands of Ukrainian soldiers had died since the first crossing into Russia in August. ">PIC RELATEDdamn even AI seems to think 50k to 70k dead ukikes is truth
>>519331467A bit harsh but you have a point. They black listed Col MacGregor because he refused to every town into rubble as he was rolling tword Bagdad. (How dare you not expend munitions and cut MIC profits). He also warned us about drones 30 years ago and they just recently started teaching drone evasion in basic.>https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/pentagon/etc/phalanx.html>But Macgregor's scenario included caveats. He forecasted that despite advances in deep-strike missiles, close-up ground fighting would continue to be a critical factor in the outcome of the war. And his chapter contained a warning to those who would become overly dependent on technology: "In the right hands, modern military technology increases the American Armed Forces' ability to diminish its adversary's capacity for independent action, but in the wrong hands it cannot compensate for the absence of human insight, understanding, or effective leadership. This is because technological advances cannot eliminate ambiguity, uncertainty, chance, and the forces of chaos from the field of conflict."
>>519331467>The summer oinkfensive and the Kursk debacle will go down in history as some of the dumbest military strategic decisions in modern warfare. NATO made Ukrainian commanders look like an absolute joke with trying this maneuver warfare bullshit that only worked 20 years ago because the enemy didn’t have unlimited drones. It’s not like they didn’t know this coming, Ukraine should have mined every inch of the border and built a maginot-style line of fortifications that spanned hundreds of kilometers. Instead they fell for meme-neuver warfare. I’m convinced the to the last hohol thing was official US policy. They never cared about Ukrainian sovereignty, they only cared about using ukros as zerg rush meat wave mercenaries to do one thing and one thing only- kill as many Russians as they could before getting oinked. Grim. Truly demonic shit. America is the great satan and I hope Ukraine is eye opening to our so called “allies” that America cares about one thing and one thing only and that’s destroying shit and flooding your country with Jews and Indians. Why anyone would to “ally” with America when they play these bullshit power games is beyond me, you will always be a pawn to be sacrificed so Americans can keep stuffing their faces with basedslop
>>519331155>>519331446And then suddenly, for no reason whatsoever, Ukraine loses the city (which was never important in the first place).Just like with every other city like Bakhmut, Mariupol, Avdeevka, etc, piggie high command kept denying losing it for a week.
>>519331970>And then suddenly, for no reason whatsoever, Ukraine loses the city (which was never important in the first place).>Just like with every other city like Bakhmuti cannot WAIT to hear london/whitehalls spin on porkroast
>>519327747Actually the 2023 failed counter offensive is what lost them the war.
>>519332037>Actually the 2023 failed counter offensive is what lost them the war.LMAOWEBM RELATED>the 72hr thunderrun to Crimea
>>519327665Any reports of nork scout rapes?
>>519327665Ukrainian women are never coming back.
>>519332099Absolutely unreal they thought this would work like that. What NATO (((advisor))) came up with that cockamamie plan. This wouldn’t even work in HOI4 lol
Russia said 78,000 invadedGlobohomo media said 11,000Truth in the middle most likely
>>519331446All mapping projects will differ and none of them can be taken as gospel. You would have to check several, keep in mind their individual biases and tendencies, and even then the best you will get is a general picture. They are compiling them from a mix of personal sources on the ground & OSINT, and even if those sources of information were 100% accurate at the time, the situation on the ground is constantly evolving.>>519331467>Why anyone would to “ally” with America when they play these bullshit power games is beyond meNGOs and US propaganda are incredibly powerful tools against an uninformed populace that can't fathom the consequences of war, and NATO-aligned countries throw an absolute shit fit if you try to curtail them. Look at Georgia and the hysteria it provoked from the EU with their foreign agent law.
>>519332306>Absolutely unreal they thought this would work like that. What NATO (((advisor))) came up with that cockamamie planthe biblical scale hubris of nato is on a level that most of humanity simply cannot comprehendimagine the most delusional bloodthirsty menopausal women politicians planning "DEFENSE" for a continent for 4 decades, and you might have a fraction of an idea what nato *really* is
>>519332408maps r literally irrelevant and all you have to do is probe what /k/ is banning for the fastest to know which front (((kike jews))) are losing on hardestwhen ukraine is getting plastered by kinzhals and shaheds, shill post counts go into overdrive
>>519332306The offensive was the brainchild of people like Milley and Petraeus
>>519332616>The offensive was the brainchild of people like Milley and Petraeuslmao the big "Counter_O" is probably the most hilarious failed military campaign in history
No bullshit guys cuz I'm tired of hearing about it, has Ukraine actually lost?Aren't they negotiating a ceasefire?
>>519332616Its scarey these pieces of shit had power.>diffusing minefieldsI was an army engineer and this shit is dangerous as fuck. He has no idea what he was talking about.
>>519331174It would have been a win if they had got out as fast as they got in. It should have been a raid. Causing embarrassment to Putin, inflicting disproportionate damage and casualties ( which it did initially ) and keeping the Russians threatened along tthe whole frontMy guess is that is what the Ukrainian generals wanted, but as soon as Zelensky saw the map change he wanted to keep the clay. Thus dooming the Ukrainians in the salient to a pointless and ultimately self defeating grind.>Mah bargaining chip!Yeah, fat lot of good that did, and any politician worth their salt would have known Putin never have let him keep it.
>>519332768>has ukraine actually lost?>Aren't they negotiating a ceasefire?ukraine lost in the first 48hrs of "no nato support"meanwhile, london has been playing with corpse happily ever since
>>519332616>what fighting against guys wearing sandals for 20 years does to your brainYou know it’s actually sad, Ukraine could have actually gotten a better deal by doing this- set up a ridiculously well defended maginot line, mine every inch of the border and thousands of kilometers in country, mine the dnepr with another back up line filled to the brim with drone launch points. It wouldn’t last forever, but their only hope was going for attritional warfare right off the bat and making every Russian advance wildly costly. Once things start going in Russia’s favor, capitulate for peace. It came down to the fact that Zelensky is not a military president and was listening to the most braindead NATO (((advisors))) that were basically trying to get them all killed so they could fulfill their boomer Cold War gone hot jerk off fantasies with no actual Americans dying.
>>519332866officially, they told ukraine>"just drive around it!" ez!https://en.defence-ua.com/news/just_drive_around_the_minefields_what_german_instructors_trained_ukrainians_on_leopard_2-7336.html>"When Ukrainian tank crews were trained on Leopard 2 tanks in Germany, Bundeswehr instructors received an important question: how do you get through a minefield?>"And the answer of the German tutors was: simply drive the tank around it. "and ukikes fell for this
>>519332924Never happened. 5 eyes was running the operation. They just made up an excuse to blame Trump.
>>519333092The same people that send columns of vehicles directly into minefields are the same people that accuse Russia of “meat wave assaults” btw
>>519332768They lost the moment the war began. Their country is beyond fucked now. The population will never recover. The uki refugees are never gong back willingly. The war causalities will never be replaced by ethnic Ukrainians. They will be replaced by 10 million Jeets and Somalians who will be shoved in as donkey workers to repair and build the shit needed for Western companies to extract the mineral wealth and gas reserves. And once there those fuckers will never leave."Oh you thought all those billions of financial and military aid was for free? Lol no!"
>>519327747>stalingrad was for hitlerStalingrad was the most embarrassing display for the soviets in history. Just on kill/death ratio alone, in home territory no less LMAO.
>>519333243>The same people that send columns of vehicles directly into minefields are the same people that accuse Russia of “meat wave assaults” btwmeanwhile, ukraine meatave charges simply for fun
>>519333265But enough about Russia.
>>519333334more afu meatwave chargescompletely hapless conscripts too
>>519333384>Porkroast is gonna be a trap that defeats the Russian armyYESPutins regime is finished and the Ruble is RUbble™
>>519332035>>519331970Porkroast is gonna be a trap that defeats the Russian army
>>519333092AmazingThats not how minefields work. Every anti tank mine is surrounded by anti personel mines. You put mines in the road (after you destroy it) then look at what alternative routes they would take and mine the shit out of them too.To find mines you crawl on your stomach and slowly overturn the dirt while you crawl forward. It would take 6 guys a week to do a football field.They could have invented remote control nigger whipper 5000s to do it but they want all white christians dead anyway so......
>>519333522The only trap that defeats the Russian army is the designated AIDS ridden stress relief fuckboy in every squad.
>>519333461Problem with the webm I wanted to post by here >>519333522 it is lol
>>519333522lmao, where did those 400k reserve ukike afu go, did any one ever ask him that?
>>519332768>has Ukraine actually lostNot yet but it's inevitable. There is nothing they can do to turn it around, unless NATO gets directly involved it's just a question of when.>Aren't they negotiating a ceasefire?No, it's all just talk. The Russians won't accept a ceasefire, firstly because they are winning and they know it, secondly because it wouldn't address any of the root causes for the war. The Russians will not have a militarized, hostile, NATO-aligned Ukraine on their borders, it's completely unreasonable to expect them to accept that.>>519333037It's not just NATO's fault. Yes, it's full of idiots who think 20 years of counter insurgency against goat herders in the desert can somehow translate to a modern peer conflict in the Russian steppes, but there were just as many ideological retards agitating for war in the Ukrainian government. One of the reasons Zelensky didn't take the March 2022 deal (or follow through with his election promise to normalize relations with the Russians) is because the nationalists would have killed him. The various Banderite factions are backed by both the US and UK, and they have a lot of political power, they would rather Ukraine be destroyed than accept a humiliating peace.
>>519333522Why is this assclown not being kidnapped and sent to die on the frontlines
>>519333461She (?) looks like she's on some hardcore substances by the way
>>519333574>They could have invented remote control nigger whipper 5000slmao, whats even funnier, is Russia invented nigger mine-thrower 5000 and they would wait for ukikes to de-mine, then at night fling remote mines in the same place the afu thought they cleared and guess what the result was ?>>519333092
>>519333409>”Mission Failed. We’ll get ‘em next time!”
>>519333726>She (?) looks like she's on some hardcore substances by the waycountering Putlers propaganda™ is hard work
>>519327665
>>519327747Zelensky isnt making any decisions, hes an actor and a go between for eavesdropping purposes. His handlers are making all the decisions.
>>519329767Because he's a stupid fucking zignog, some fucking shill that's getting paid to post or legitimately retarded.
>>519333685>muh winningWhich of the goals has Putin completed? Denazification? Demilitarization? Or taking over Kiev? At this rate Ukraine is gonna outlast the siege of Berlin LMAO.> NATO-aligned Ukraine on their borders, it's completely unreasonable to expect them to accept that.Instead now that have 2 more NATO neighbors now LMAO.
>>519331467Total Hohol Death is a joint effort, yes
>>519333704He might be a tranny but he's got a lot of muscle. I've seen weaker hohols beat up the recruitment partyvan hohols.
>>519333574Oh and by the end of that week it took to clear that minefield 24 guys would be dead, you have to keep replacing them.
>>519333866
>chatting shitWon’t win a war Russia has already lost. They are a laughing stock, Poo. Like you.
>>519333804>”Mission Failed. We’ll get ‘em next time!”hell of a way to de-mobilize the grandpa corps of the afu
>>519333685Putin already said he will freeze the current lines and agree to a DMZ with non-NATO peacekeepers.Fuck off nafo troon shill
>>519333977Please elaborate commie bro. How the heck has Russia lost when Ukraine needs another 120 billion to continue to war and Zion Don doesn't want to pay another cent but is happy having Eurocucks buy American weapons they can't afford?
>>519333886And NATO got kicked out of 8 resource rich countries in Africa.
>>519334061Forced mobilization, forced de-mobilization, the life of oinkкpaиний cannon fodder is truly grim. Trusting (((America))) was their first and most fatal mistake.
Russia lost. It's simple. They might be taking irrelevant cities but there's 2 million dead zigger bodies in Ukraine's soil and Russia is importing millions of shitskins every year that will destroy Russia's demographics and soon Siberia will stop being part of Russia, they'll lose the only relevant thing they ever have
>>519334195>MUH AFRICA!Oh now we give a fuck about Africa and resources? Couldn’t even pretend to try to defend Putin or the incompetent Russian army? The absolute state of russian shills.
>>519333866>>519333975lmao damnukraine winning so hard its crazymust suck to win that hard against the 2nd military of the world using just natos old random garbage they found in their couch
>>519334254>Forced mobilization, forced de-mobilization, the life of oinkкpaиний cannon fodder is truly grim. Trusting (((America))) was their first and most fatal mistake.yah, you arent wrong there buddy
>>519334273So, Russia is turning into Europe?
>>519334288Dude the absolute cope on reddit is completely wild. They genuinely unironically think Ukraine is days away from winning the war because Russian soldiers are fighting with shovels. I’ve never seen so much blatant propagandizing happening in real time, and when Ukraine inevitably loses they will pretend the war never happened or blame Trump for not throwing more billions at Zelensky.
>>519333685>The various Banderite factions are backed by both the US and UK, and they have a lot of political powerMy understanding is that they are a really small fraction of the population but they have a lot of clout especially due to Ukrainians abroad like the ones in Canada that are Banderite adjacent and and still commemorate the Ukrainians that were in the Waffen SS. I don't blame the average Ukrainian in Ukraine anymore than I blame Americans for being all kiked up.
>>519332291>Ukrainian women are never coming back.True, Ukrainian men are never coming back either (they're dead)
>>519334288I notice you have no arguementYou tranny faggot shills paid to be here are cancer>we didnt need that gold anyway....
>>519334422>muh redditI don’t give a fuck about what shills say on social media, YOU ARE a shill. Shills are also uninformed and retards when it comes to geopolitics, so I make it a point never to listen to any foreign country fanboy who knows less than shit about their fav country.When is Putin taking over kiev? When is the denazification/demilitarization taking place? We still coping for year 5? More gas shortages? More inflation? LMAO.
By the way Russia will never be rich, never be white, never be european, and are declining harder and harder every day
>>519334422Dont forget the donkey shows
>>519334531>muh argumentYou mean after you brought out your retarded “le african resources” strawman because you can’t even defend Putin? LMAOOOOOOO.
>>519327665Who owns Troyanka right now!?Achillesov or Hectorenko?
>>519331467>The summer oinkfensive and the Kursk debacle will go down in history as some of the dumbest military strategic decisionsTrue. On a smaller scale there was also the repeated suicide missions attempting to cross the river near Kherson.
>>519334422>They genuinely unironically think Ukraine is days away from winning the war because Russian soldiers are fighting with shovels. I’ve never seen so much blatant propagandizing happening in real time, and when Ukraine inevitably loses they will pretend the war never happened or blame Trump for not throwing more billions at Zelensky.
>>519334857there was some truly asolutely unimaginably insane ukrainian suicide missions in this wara surreal amount almostis this what an army of (((true believers))) is expendable like?
>>519334479>but they have a lot of cloutAnd all the guns. They are hyper aware of this in Kiev, that's why Zaluzhny, who was very popular with the military, was exiled abroad before the scheduled election in April 2024, while Syrksy, who is hated by the military, is still in his post. 2014 was only 11 years ago, people in Ukraine are very cognizant of how easy it is to perform a coup, especially if you've got the support of the military. The rule of law is very thin in a place like late 2025 Ukraine.>I don't blame the average Ukrainian in Ukraine anymore than I blame Americans for being all kiked up.Neither do I, it's honestly a complete tragedy what is happening to them.
>>519334591But its trueEurope has a service economy and nobody is willing to die for your globohomo masters. You are a retard and a faggot talking out of your ass.
>>519334549The denazification has already happened lmao. All the hardcore banderites were exterminated in the first year of the war. People completely misunderstand this war, yes Russia wanted to take Kiev, but the denazification thing was unironically real, Russia wanted to kill every nationalist banderite that could fight them before the west started arming them. They wanted to cripple the nationalists in Ukraine for decades. Russia was being honest about “denazification” they wanted to kill all of the people that would pose a threat to Russia in the future before the (((west))) started arming them to the teeth. Every Ukrainian they kill is a step towards crippling Ukrainian nationalism permanently. It’s a civil war gone out of hand. You realize half of Ukraine speaks Russian right? You realize that parts of eastern Ukraine VOTED TO SECEDE. They saw that the banderite faction, like Nazis tend to do, was going to lead them into an absolutely catastrophic bloody war with Russia that was going to cripple the country forever and they WERE RIGHT. The entire war has only proven that DPR/LPR made the right decision to not be dragged into war with a country they had no hope of winning against. This is not shilling, this is facts you delusional NAFO homo.
>>519327665What are we looking at here?
>>519335118And unfortunately, real life is not a Marvel and might does make right to some extent. Russia has 10x the men, 10x the GDP, 10x the military capability. On a long enough timeline, Ukraine was always going to lose this war. There was always going to be a political solution. The Kursk oinkfensive was a last Hail Mary to try to get some leverage before the negotiations started beginning.
>>519335118>giant paragraph of copeSo no denazification because outside of talking out of your asshole, you have bo proof of anything. No demilitarization because Moscow is still getting bombed, and Kiev is still standing.Nice try, desperately coping shill. Putin will give you some rubles one day for trying so hard LMAO.
>>519335315> Russia has 10x the men, 10x the GDP, 10x the military capability.Let me just destroy your cope some more: Vietnam.
>>519335118Not reallyAZOV was only one of 50 neo nazi groups. Throughout the war they have been used as recruiters, trainers, and military police behind the front lines to shoot anyone who retreats or surrenders (nato contractors are doing this job too). They also took over the police force so they get out of combat too.>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955Azov is just one of more than 50 volunteer groups fighting in the east, the vast majority of which are not extremist, yet it seems to enjoy special backing from some top officials:Interior Minister Arsen Avakov and his deputy Anton Gerashchenko actively supported the parliament candidacy of Andriy Biletsky, the Azov and Patriot of Ukraine commanderVadim Troyan, another top Azov official and Patriot of Ukraine member, was recently named police chief for the Kiev regionMr Korotkykh is also an Azov memberUkraine's media have been noticeably silent on this subject.
>>519335267A map of Pokrovsk, which is/was a major logistics hub serving to supply the AFU in the Donbass
>>519335573> Ukraine's media have been noticeably silent on this subject.Yes because nobody cared when Putin sent Wagner and his Nazi friends to do the same. In fact, nobody talked about when his former nazi wagner chef led a mutiny against Putin ffs lmao.
>>519335118This guy is the key to it all>Vadim TroyanHe went from Kiev chief to national head and is now secretary of the interior. He is keeping all his nazis close to keep the population subjugated.
>>519335473You can’t compare an insurgency in the fucking 1960’s to literal modern frontline near peer attritional warfare lmao. Two completely different ball games my dude. You sound young and/or retarded. Ukraine is losing this war. This is a fact. I’m not emotionally invested about it like you are, frankly I really don’t give a shit who wins, I just cannot stand the NAFO cope that is actively getting millions of people killed. This entire war is kiked and demonic and the west is spurring it on. It’s an absolute tragedy what happened to Ukraine, but mark my words, there will be a political solution, and it won’t be muh 1991 borders.
>>519335817Elaborate anon
>>519335857>N-NO ITS NOT THE SAMEWe’re going to YEAR 5 OF SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION. I don’t care what cope you have for Putin, he’s an incompetent idiot and so is the military. Zero objectives completed, national fund depleted, year 4. They’re gonna last longer than Berlin at this point.Vietnam 2.0 here.
>>519335857>i'm not emotionally invested>Write this little numberkek
>>519328122>city>pre war population 75,205 people
>>519336007What has Ukraine accomplished beyond fucking their demographics permanently?
>>519327967Always, it's the same fat and bald freak.Idk why they have this thread spam obsession tbqh.They must really love Rusaia for some reason, no idea why
If Russia needs FOUR YEARS to beat Ukraine, the EU can beat Russia in four months.
>>519336079what has Russia? killed a million solders for ruble and farm lands they could have just developed their 90% uninhabited country.
>>519336093>they could save ukraine they just don't want tongl that's even worse
>>519328088Both putin and zelensky are catering to chabad kikes to exterminate the goyim. To the last hohol, remember? Its working nicely, reinhart heydrich was right about the slavs.
>>519336079>MUH WHATABOUTUkraine had no objectives, monkey, they’re keeping Russia out or killing them, which they have been doing well. Then they decided to invade Kursk until papa Trump had to bail Putin out of that one since Ukraine was in there for almost a year uncontested.And now they’re systematically blowing up Russia’s oil refineries and causing gas shortages all over.What a strong little slavic shithole LMAO.
>>519336142That's not an answer to his question NAFO.
>>519336142They have crippled Ukraine militarily for a generation.
>>519336228lmao were they in imminent threat from Ukrainian invasion? That was literally their military not 50 years ago
>>519335960>>https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/kiev-regional-police-head-accused-of-neo-nazi-ties-381559Kiev regional police head accused of neo-Nazi tiesIf need be, Ukrainian chief rabbi says he’ll call on president to sack interior minister over appointment.A procession in Kiev to mark the Day of Ukrainian Cossacks to honor the role of the movement in the country’s history, inA procession in Kiev to mark the Day of Ukrainian Cossacks to honor the role of the movement in the country’s history, in(photo credit: REUTERS)BySAM SOKOLNOVEMBER 12, 2014 07:55The newly appointed police chief for the Ukrainian province in which Kiev is located came under fire on Monday after it was alleged that he had past ties with a neo-Nazi organization.Vadim Troyan was appointed to head the Kiev Oblast regional police on October 31 by Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, who feted him on Facebook as a respected commander whose like would form “the basis of a new national police force.”Deputy Minister of Internal AffairsIn office8 February 2017 – 6 September 2019Chief of the National Police (acting)In office14 November 2015 – 8 February 2017Preceded byKhatia DekanoidzeSucceeded bySerhiy KnyazevFirst Deputy Chief of the National PoliceIn office4 March 2015 – 5 November 2021Head of the Main Directorate of the National Police in the Kyiv RegionIn office7 November 2015 – 4 March 2016Preceded bypost established
>>519336142killing off entire generations of men, Ukraine will never recover.
>>519329767because the frontline keeps changing>>519331446Russia has advanced rapidly in this sector of the frontline in the past few weeks.
>Be russia>#2 army in the world>invade neighbor from already annexed territory>neighbor is supplied with nato's sloppy second>still at it 3 and a half years later>Anyday now guys, they will winBetween Russia self destruction and America losing his soft power to China over Drumpf retarded policies, i'm real glad i learned kanjis during covid. I have a headstart to learn chinese for the upcoming decades.
>>519336309Yes, one less Orthodox slav nation to worry about.
>>519336172> reinhart heydrich was right about the slavs.Redpill me on this
>>519336201Bro they lost 60,000 soldiers at Kursk lmao. Gas export shortages don’t mean shit. You realize Russia has some of the largest oil reserves in the world, right? This why people think NAFOids are delusional. Ukraine is losing. This is a week. Maybe next week they will get some wonderwaffen that will win the war for them, but right now, they are grinding, and they are losing. Slowly but surely. This is a fact. Putin is not going to back down at this point, and the west said to the last hohol and they meant it.
>>519327665damn once they actually started pushing the old porkrust they took it pretty quickly
Its not over but if you take pokrovsk and kupyanks you certainly deserve some shitposting about how good you are
>>519336429Russia took .7% of Ukraine in the entire 2024. Who is delusional? This war is a constant death of Russian solders and will continue for the next 20 years
>>519336429>m-muh THEY ARE LOSINGTWO WEEKS. Anyways, let me know whenever they actually do any of the objectives that Putin promised well over 4 years ago. I’m sue they can do it, this is a little slavic shithole, surely nothing for the second best army in the world LMAO.Except for literally getting invaded by said shithole and not even able to fight them back.
>>519331446>A prior map showed the Russians taking Porkroast from the south. Member when someone posted about how Porkroast's apartment complexes had been taken over? I am getting suspicious of all these maps.They moved into the Shaktarsky district at the end of September, the big swing from the east happened in the last week or so.
>>519336415>Berlin was satisfied with Heydrich’s policy in the East. On February 15, 1942, Goebbels wrote in his diary: "the danger to German security in the protectorate from the side of the Czechs, has vanished completely. Heydrich is acting successfully. He plays a game of cat and mouse with the Czechs and they accept anything he offers them. The Slavs, he emphasizes, cannot be educated like you would educate a Germanic people, you have to break them or bend them continuously."Basically he thought they were the white niggers of eastern europe, and he was right. Just look at all slavic nations, its clear there is something wrong with them.
>>519336514>ukraine will totally hold out for 20 years>that’s why they are desperately begging every country on earth for military aid and kidnapping conscripts off the streets to fill their ranks
>>519336648>saying the same thing for 3 years>two more weeks this time bro for real this time
>>519327878Just like Steiner would counter attack for Hitler?
>>519336648"We could save ukraine we just don't want to" is the current motif, and arguably is even worse
>>519331155Kicked out of a place they didnt reach? Wew>>519332035This impenetrable fortress city that the russians will never breach because it's a critical strategic town has fallen after a long grind that amounts to a Phyrric victory that the ruzzians will spin into some great success as if it wasnt an insgnificant truckstop hamlet anyway
>>519336748how that any better then Russian shills, "we could conquer all Ukraine we just don't want to use our real army"
>>519336700I’m not sure what your argument even is nafoanon. I will agree with you that this war has dragged on, but I’m not sure what your argument is. Russia expected it to be easy, it wasn’t. What’s your point? The fact that Russia is occupying ANY of Ukraine is contrary to Ukraines objectives which was to keep their territorial sovereignty.
>>519332099>>519332306>>519332503>>519332616>>519332759Washington Post wrote how ukraine prep and how that counter offensive fared. 2 part article. sad shithttps://archive.is/vRrCChttps://archive.is/1WUHx
>>519336700>a country drafting boys and old men can last another 20 yearsyou don't live in reality. their population is fucking decimated.
>>519336800Ask the Taliban how it worked out when USA controlled 99% of the country yet they still won. Belive it or not zigger bro, you can find hundred of examples in history where invading armies failed after decades of success and land gains.
>>519331914There was a city between fallujah and ramadi on the west side of lake habaniyah that was bombed to fucking shit. it was a pretty big sprawling city with all one story buildings. we never ever went in it. but one night my squad got lost in a crazy fog and wound up having to go through it. it was completely dead. no animals no sound no nothing just a whole city full of half destroyed buildings. was super fucking unnerving.
>>519336807if you reality was real, Russia would have won 3 years ago, but you will never admit it.
>>519333409it’s astounding that zelensky hasn’t been hanged yet
>>519337044there is no scenario where ukraine wins. even if the full might of the united states marine corps was thrown into it and russia were driven back ukraine would still cease to exist.
>>519336807From conservative estimates on both casualty rates and refugees fleeing, Ukraine has lost about 5 million young men. In a country of 30 million people that is devastating. The Ukrainians put up a good fight, and it’s a tragedy what has happened to them, but NAFO troons don’t live in reality and cannot contemplate the actual scale of this war. I think they expected Russia to take a ton of casualties and back down ala Chechnya. They aren’t doing that. Yes I will agree that Russia did not expect this war to drag on this long, but the counterpoint to this is that neither did Ukraine. Russia is much better prepared for long haul attritional warfare than Ukraine is. This is just a fact and it’s why Zelensky is begging for military aid so desperately.
>>519337044this is all theater for dumb fucking goyim like you, its called training troops and weapons testing. Not to mention little israel and the baal shem tov. But making up this fantasy that Ukraine somehow has the population for 2 decades of meat grinder warfare is laughable and shows how bias and retarded you actually are. They deserve to be exterminated for how retarded they are for falling for kikelensky. Stay mad nigger.
>>519336984>comparing yet another insurgency to near peer attritional warfareRespectfully, I think you fundamentally just don’t understand different types of conflict anon. Again, two completely different ball games.
>>519333409>they have less than zero idea how to use their equipment yea lel cant say its a shock
>>519337209Agreed. It's simple math and logistics. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't live in objective reality and most relates ukraine to their marvel super hero movies.
>>519337200how about you admit you never though it would be 2025 and Russia would be making less than 1% land gains a year
>>519337079Who's supposed hang him? The women?
>>519337320as if you have ever predicted a single accurate thing in this conflict.
>>519331467>They never cared about Ukrainian sovereigntyI refuse to believe any anon on /pol/ has ever earnestly believed that
Anyone with rational thought can see Ukraine is fucked outside of starting WW3Which no one is going to bat for UkraineThe only way Ukraine will survive is surrendering occupied territories to Russia. This is why you don't put jewish actors hired by NAFO/CIA into positions of power.
>>519337044Occupying the entire country or even demonstrating overwhelming force isn't in their interest. The attrition warfare serves them well.
>>519337044Can you genuinely not understand that Putin made those ridiculous “Kiev in two weeks” statements because the war is actually incredibly unpopular in Russia? Look at the chimping out over conscription. He had to say that. I’m still not even sure what your argument is here, yes the war is dragging on far longer than what Russia said it was going to. They never expected the scale of military aid and mobilization capability of Ukraine. What’s your point? I’m literally conceding to you that yes, the war is dragging on, Ukraine is putting up a good fight, but eventually, they will lose. War is a numbers game, it’s not fantasy land, and the numbers are heavily skewed against Ukraine.
>>519336984ah, yes, ukraine will emerge victorious after russia occupies all of ukraine. there are many huge differences and one gigantic reason why the insurgency in afghanistan was able to persist: terrain. afghanistan has itself a natural fortress that is perfect for inficting heavy losses with minimal fighters. ukraine does not have that whatsoever.
>>519337481oh boy, another Russia real army hasn't even tried yet. How about you tell me when Russia is going to win so I can screen cap it and laugh at you later when they are still inching Donbass in 10 years
>>519337044>but, but, russia said they would win faster! >this proves ukraine is winning!Anon, the only thing this proves is more goyim are being sacrificed for moloch for new khazaria. This is not the own you think it is.
>>519337534yes tell me more how the Taliban had things so good fighting strongest military in the world and losing 99% of their country. You're a legit retard and it's funny
>>519337674yes I can tell you're zigger who thinks one square foot of Ukraine is worth more then 100 Russian lives and as long as you have it, it's a win
>>519327665deepstate map doesn't show that though? why are you posting zigger propaganda?
>>519337343I never gave a particular shit about this war at all. I hope they both kill each other. but it is foolish to have ever thought the most corrupt country in europe ever stood a chance of assembling a full effort defense. Its even more foolish to do so after seeing that over the course of a many years long war ukraine has not even come close to achieving the historically relevant kill ratio of a defending army. even when they eventually lost defending armies have historically blown the shit out of ukraines k/d
>>519337695>having your country occupied in martial law for 20 years is winning, actuallyThere’s no reasoning with NAFO anon here because he fundamentally doesn’t understand the brutal geopolitical reality of war. No one comes out on top, the only “winning” is losing less than the other guy. Russia has decimated Ukraine militarily for a generation. The war could have be tomorrow and Russia could give them back their 1991 borders and this would still be true. This is what NAFO anon doesn’t understand.
>>519327665what map is this?
>>519337866I thought Russia was Fighting NATO in this war? How bad has the NATO army been damage? lmao
>>519337695and they were free to roam where ever the fuck they wanted to in those mountains. ukraine doesnt have anything like that. they just have killing fields. which do not foster any leisure to an insurgency. and lmao, who is gonna be the insurgents? will they rise from their graves?
>>519327665any runes, nigger has 200 meanings
>>519337768What are you talking about? I’m against this war and have been from the beginning. It’s a tragedy and I knew right when Russia invaded that it was going to be catastrophic for Ukraine regardless of how long it lasts or who “wins”. There is no real winner in war anon. You can’t just get 5 million people back at the snap of your fingers like a marvel movie. This was has been absolutely devastating for Ukraine. Even IF they “win” and achieve their 1991 borders back by the end of it, it will still have been devastating for the population of Ukraine. This is what you aren’t understanding.
>>519329591>>519330748I can't wait for all kinds of footage to get declassified after the war. We are going to see some absolutely fucking insane shit.
>>519337966Natos credibility has been kicked square in the nuts. and its also been proven that they will never directly oppose russia, which had been rumored as being the case for decades. nice goalpost moving though.
>>519337984holy kek you really are retarded, they don't need an insurgency they are not as bad off as the Taliban was, they still control 80% of their country.
>>519337966NATO is supplying and using Ukraine as meat pawns, I said this earlier. Now you are just grasping at straws anon.
>>519338103ahhhahah this is what ziggers actually believe, while NATO general sip coffee and dumb ziggers get blown up every day
>>519337529Yes, I’d love for my government use my tax money for a war that doesn’t benefit anybody in the country. wasn't this a talking point? Why was US waging pointless wars? And now that Russia is literally pouring all of its resources and people to a war where they don’t even have a single objective or even CLOSE to it done? The hundreds of thousands and more in Crimea who are waiting in line for 5 hours to get some gas are sure grateful for the dumbest Russian administration since Yeltzin.
>>519338049of course I understand that, Ukraine never wanted this war, it was Russian the invaded and started this shit show.
>>519338196doesn't change the fact ukraine is finished as a nation, nafotroon keep coping. Sorry your marvel super hero nation is getting exterminated and will never recover, but thats the fact you just dont want to acknowledge.
>>519338110you are right but its not the win you think it is. afghanistan was never a war of attrition. civilians included the high estimate for dead afghanis is 130,000. the taliban didnt have it as bad as the ukrainian army does.
>>519328248No country in the world wants Russia to collapse because it would always mean that China would gain a massive amount of land and we would end up with a global hegemon that would make the US century kindergarten a reality.I believe I speak for every geostrategist outside of China when I say this.
>>519338144you will never be a woman. I hope ukraine and russia kill each other. how am I a zigger?
>>519338169What’s your point anon? Ukraine is losing which was the entire argument. This is backed up by facts. Russia said they could defeat Ukraine quickly, they couldn’t, but they are still occupying a chunk of eastern Ukraine and crimea, which is, yet again, a territorial loss for Ukraine, which is against their objectives. Ukraine wanted to keep their territorial sovereignty, Russia wanted to invade Ukraine, the very fact that Russia is still occupying parts of Ukraine is a loss for them. The hopes of taking those areas back are slim to none, as the summer counter oinkfensive proved.
>>519327665>lostthe only russians not droned yet are the propagandists
>>519338437>russia is falling apart>thousands of russians dead every week>can't tank, can't gas, can't anything now>b..bbut ukraine is losing
>>519338411you're are mostly just an idiot, destroying Ukraine is not a win for Russia geopolitically.
>>519327665It's over, euros seeing won't lift a finger without the US... At least someone do something unhinged.
>>519338516If you genuinely believe this war is remotely capable of collapsing Russia you are delusional and don’t understand the size, GDP, and population difference between Ukraine and Russia.
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>>519338538i never said it was. what i said is there is no scenario where ukraine wins.
>>519338606are you saying russia is so collapsed now that any further collapse is not a collapse?
>>519337773>why are you posting zigger propaganda?Because he's a VPN zigger, and that's what they always do. Same as those youtube shills, every video now for several years is "front lines collapsed, road to Kiev open, it's over!"
Like I've said before, it was over 90 days into the war after their Air Force was lost. But.That didn't stop the money laundering opportunities. So here we are. It's more about the fate of Bitcoin than the Ukrainian people at this point. Ukraine genocided itself for Bitcoin. Lmao.
>>519328088Ukraine lost the war during the "offensyive" and putin's dragging it out because he can use it as leverage against trump.
>>519338672all these faggot russian shills know is Kremlin talking points. Stupid faggots SEETHE at western inflation and economics but Russian economy? Totally ok because inflation and demographic crisis does not exist, the kremlin said so.
>>519336748but russia is winning!!!1
>>519338648depends on your definition of win, but this war will continue to be a quagmire that last decades and a lot can happen in such a time. I can tell you for sure NATO did grow bigger and stronger thanks to this conflict, while Russia has constantly lost people and quipment for little gain
>>519338437I mean Ukraine is losing in two weeks, right?
>>519338811>NATO did grow bigger and strongerDid they import more africans and indians?
zoom out>>519327665
>>519338875why thinking of sending your cousins over rajesh? No thanks were full
>>519338703Can I see these youtube videos?
>>519338796Russia is and has always been a resource economy. Bro I’m done with this thread. NAFOids are truly delusional. Arguing with them is pointless. If Ukraine gets its 1991 borders back I will concede everything I’ve said, but we all know that’s not going to happen.
>>519339209> Russia is and has always been a resource economy>russian shills still don’t know about crude and processed oil>in 2025Literal children talking about geopolitics.
>>519338966Sure thing cumrag.
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>>519338802Subhuman euromonkey, chillout a little, unless ur fake country called "the poland" will be separated once again.
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>>519327878and theres also another city next to that one too that theyll regroup at
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>>519337567How would I know, retard? They can obviously wipe out cities if they want, just like the US. If they occupied the entire country and installed a government the violence would still go on but be even costlier and harder to manage.
>>519339810>UH IMA BIG BAD RUSSIAN FEAR ME UAHHHHA!!!!11fuck off, you will be meso soonXDDDWhy do you russkies even try to look like you are relevant or something?
>>5193276652 more weeks, comrade
>>519327665It's been nearly 4 years of slavniggers posting a nearly undecipherable map saying THIS TIME IT'S OVER FOR REALJust admit this gay ass war is a clown show and move on with your life. No idea why any of the soldiers is fighting this shit, it's jews vs jews with innocent people dying for literally no reason. Absolutely beyond gay.
>>519339837>>519327665Pokrovsk is strategically unimportant to Ukraine's heroes.
>>519332866And there are millions of them, and more are planted daily by hand, drones, UGVs and artillery. If there is a corridor without mines (realistically still mined, but less heavily) it will be presighted in for artillery and closer to the corridor there will be 10 guys in wait to launch as many FPVs as is needed. Maneuvering just sucks ass, there's no way around it.
>>519327665>WOG>Temporarily closedthank god, the fatigue was getting to me
>>519340631Screencap this postI can see the futureUkraine will collapse as a fuctioning country by feburary.Niggerfaggot
>>519333685I agree with this assesment.
>>519328248It's pretty insane that this happened and the entire west cheered it on, as if Europe wouldn't have also been irradiated.
>>519331467>They never cared about Ukrainian sovereignty, they only cared about using ukros as zerg rush meat wave mercenaries to do one thing and one thing only- kill as many Russians as they could before getting oinked.This is the exact position of US foreign policy: weaken russia by having it destroy the ukraine, then chop up russia like they did the USSR. Conveniently, China would also not do >>519338382 and take over parts of Russia, they would just sit idly by and let it happen. As well, other US enemies like North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. would also do nothing. In reality, all these countries see that if Russia falls they're next, so they banded together, sold Russia munitions and in exchange Russia had a ready outlet for its exports, totally nullifying the sanctions.
>>519341509Beat me Beat me
>>519327665rip
>>519332759It's kinda amazing that a few Alligators stopped the entire counter attack dead
>>519341870Making trailers for the counter offensive and having US generals talk about it openly for months which gave Russia ample time to prepare defenses was one of the most retarded things I’ve ever seen. You are about to launch a huge military operation, in most sane societies that would be absolute top secret information to surprise the enemy as much as possible. Not in Oinkmerica. They were making and editing Avengers style trailers and US generals were bragging about it. Unreal. Playing war like it’s Ollie Ollie Oxenfree. Here I come!!!! Get ready!!!!
>>519339801Where's the kiev part? Copeovsk did collapse.
>>519328638His zutted rooski vodkanigger ass
>>519342670Uh oh nafo melty
>>519327665Zoom out there's still 56% Ukrainian. It means Russia lost on day 4 of the 3 day operation.
>>519333866Fucking hell.
>>5193276655km left.
>>519342723Tвoй ecть ты мaмь гoвнo тoвapищ4 years and you cвeнкa still have not captured Donbas
>>519327747>>519327810>>519328248>Kursk incursionPicrel shows what was happening in the Donbass during that same period of time where those 70k AFU soldiers were dying pointlessly in Kursk.Had the Ukrainians forces wasted in Kursk had instead been focused on defense in the Donbass then Russian advances there would have been much slower and/or costly. Zelensky made a huge mistake and helped make things easier for the Russians by diverting so many forces to Kursk.
>>519343643I think they know what they're doing Ivan. Russia is bleeding itself white just to take 0.5% of the land every year.
>>519343705>Russia is bleeding itself white
Nafo is positively malding itt. All those deas hohols for nothing. Pokrovsk will be Krasnoarmiisk forevermore.
>>519327665>"It's over for the xoxols" he said nervously for the 1000th time this week while posting his cope map on a basket weaving forumMeanwhile in reality
>>519336801>Ukrainian, U.S. and British military officers held eight major tabletop war games to build a campaign plan. But Washington miscalculated the extent to which Ukraine’s forces could be transformed into a Western-style fighting force in a short period — especially without giving Kyiv air power integral to modern militaries.>aka "provide advisors to the indigenous and we're out in six months"How many times? How many FUCKING times do we have to learn this lesson?
>>519343902Arent 90% of the women and children in Europe though? If Russia is taking in refugees, then I'd like them to take the 50 odd thousand Ukrainians who went here. I'm tired of working with people who don't ynderstand that you can't just stand around and shit talk for 8 hours and expect to get paid
>>519344099>without giving Kyiv air power integral to modern militaries.Nigger what? They have gotten so insanely many planes.
>>519328638I personally counted them.No short range air defense, air defense that they did have was hunted down prior to the counter offensive. Alligators out ranged manpads. Along with coordination with artillery and drones (lancets) and ATGM's from the ground to defend positions, and minefields that were km's deep... They never really stood a chance and it was kinda obvious.>>519333777Checked. Basically Russia went crazy on defenses. NATO thought they would still use old soviet doctrine by the book. Which had minefields but no where as deep or thick as the ones in the 2023 counter offensive.
>>519327747two weeks
>>519343362The resupply roads are blocked off, its over.
>>519344491>I personally counted them.So your ass, got it.
>>519327665why do the people from /ptg/, /ugh/, the zutt threads, and the hasan threads all talk the same, are they all jeets?
>>519327665pool's temporarily closed
>>519344625I like how you intentionally forgot /chug/, where the actual jeets are.
>>519333092The Zapp Brannigan school of minefield clearing.
>>519344735those are animewendyniggers
>3 years of IT'S OVER (red arrow)Don't you get tired of it?
This is actually obscene.
>>519344625Jeet tourists.
>>519333685Only sane post in this thread is by a leaf, you dumb slav niggers are too blinded by your bloodlust and propagandizing to see the real picture
>>519327665>>519327747Slavs aren’t white
>>519331914MacGregor is a stooge for the Kremlin, utter disgrace
>>519331467I think no one expected the Ukies to care so much, just goes to show what giant assholes the Russniggers are and no wonder all the former iron curtain nations hate them for being such rapemongering cyки (bitches)
>>519329955Does it change that we've been lied to since the very start of the war?What good does it do to us that russia exposes the entire west as weak paper tigers and wins regardless? Remember this is pretty much the entire western world fighting a proxy war against Russia... and LOSING
>>519332099Reminder official nato doctrine, backed up by UK intelligence reports, said this plan required Russia instantly routing and never fighting back
>>519327665are the ukrainese trying to memory hole that their tranny spokes person fire sale his tranny makeups just for a plane ticket out of ukraine and went back being a straight man?
>>519346116kek
>>519345840The West runs simulations on just how much it can fuel the conflict to inflict max pain on Pussia without causing them to balkanize (because then there would be even worse problems to deal with) all while taking ZERO casualties (volunteers and mercs don't count). This is called winning and we still haven't had enough of it
>>519333867This. He is LITERALLY a career actor.
>>519327665I can only imagine what WWII level of horrors it is to fight through big cities like that
>>519332306There is an ex general in ukraine and he explained what other active generals were thinking.When he asked them what about the reconnaissance done, nothing was done to gather any information about the russians there. When he asked them why, the explanation was that russians would just run away...
>>519328248> >7,000+ pieces of armorDamn, can’t believe how far NATO stealth technology went, Russia destroyed 7000 piece of armor but could barely show a hundred, everything else activated invisibility cloak
8th dimensional hyperfortress pokrovsk has fallen!!! in just two more weeks, the russian dragoons will be in kyiv!
>>519331895>Ukraine lost 70000 troops out of 12000 troops sent there
>>519336079>What has Ukraine accomplished beyond fucking their demographics permanently?They still exist as an independent state.
>>519345840>What good does it do to us that russia exposes the entire west as weak paper tigersyou're not fooling anyone with this. You can memoryhole Russia's blunder since 2022 and pretend they didn't flush their entire soviet stockpile down the toilet while achieving almost nothing (with their poor shitty neighbor), the only "exposure" you've done is how pathetic the demoralized traitorous retards of the west are and how western governments have been too lenient with them
>>519331895Long story short is that they sent their best troops on a pointless offensive into Russia where their best troops got killed and their equipment destroyed. Now Russia is advancing on all fronts and there's only conscripts with fpv drones to try and stop them. This is also why their counter offensives are weak af these days. The good troops are dead.
>>519332306They weren't quiet about it beforehand either.
>>519347088You know damn well they kept reinforcing the troops there, don't play dumb
>>519347653Russia has been advancing on Pokrovsk last 360 days
>>519347867Did Putin.tv told you that?
>>519347872And they'll keep advancing, albeit slowly, as nobody is able or willing to stop them.
As long as Stinky still holds, not all is lost.
>>519348085If there’s none to stop them how are they advanced so slowly?
At the beginning of the war, we should have created a counter for number of Ukrainians still live and put the Bitcoin price next to it for maximum lmao.
>>519348202Why are you ass blasted so muchSucks when your stupid team loses?
>>519343902>>519343705I never realized this was part of the playbook and suddenly I am realizing that Putin's master plan was, for these purposes, brilliant.Sending criminals and minorities to the front (along with many white Russians) has purged a great many of them, and also sent white women from Ukraine all over.
>>519348344I just find it strange. Who is killing all those Russians when Ukraine supposedly has no army left and none is stopping Russian troops? Can you solve this mystery?
>>519343902>>519333379
>>519333804lmao
>>519348202Considering they're attacking multiple cities occupied by NATO trained and equipped troops on a frontline the length of Portugal, they're not doing bad. A consistent 370 km2 per month. I expect that will accelerate soon now that Ukraine's counteroffensive capabilities are so badly depleted. The main problem both sides have had is that you can't concentrate troops anywhere before an attack because they're just an easy target for drones..
>>519348049Did ukraine tv tell you they were yrying to get prokrovsk for 365 days? Because all maps show it's about a month
>>519348236>Tokenised deathsUkraine definitely looks like it has been pumped and dumped
>>519348842> Because all maps show it's about a month3 month ago all ziggers were already celebrating “swift and decisive” capture of Pokrovsk, they were memoryholled and now it’s “we only attacked for month” cope?
>>519348955They literally crawled to the city roughly a month ago
>>519344065what site is that?this one has Russia controlling morehttps://liveuamap.com/en/time/20.10.2025
>>519348838> I expect that will accelerate soon now that Ukraine's counteroffensive capabilities are so badly depleted.Funny, ziggers report this every single month for past year, “soon” they will start advancing faster. It’s always soon but never is, how’s that is possible?
>>519348980Thousands of Russians died to get memoryholled so much they were erased from history lmao
>>519348980How many Russians died just to get erased from history?
>>519333886Are the UA forces in better shape now than 2022?Are the RUS forces in better shape now than 2022?Nobody has won yet. UA is losing to RUS.If you play chess and are down a bit of material, the game can go on quite a long time, but the result is inevitable.UA would need a massive manpower and weapons infusion to have a chance.
>>519333977>Kursk operation failed>Counter-offense failed>Ukraine continues to lose land, and more importantly, people.>Zelensky stated that Ukraine needs to close a budget deficit of $40 billion per year to maintain its financial stability and fund essential operations, which means that Ukraine can't sustain even the basic operations without foreign money.>USA doesn't provide free gibs anymore, Europe has to pay for them with the money they don't really have>Russia still not even close to being politically and economically isolated>It's not the Russian, but Ukrainian men who can't leave the country and are being kidnapped on the streets>Eurocucks again proven irrelevant paper-pushers, whos competence ends at importing niggers and shitskins, replacing their countries native population.I'm not a patriot by any stretch of the imagination and I always try to look at things objectively, without emotionally investing into teams. Now, in which objective reality did Russia lose and Ukraine win?
>>519349347Well Russians in 2022 were mostly using Russian made ifvs for transportation, in 2025 it’s mix of 60s Soviet leftovers, Chinese clown cars and donkeys. So they are clearly not in better shape
>>519349436> Now, in which objective reality did Russia loseFinishing this war before economy starts contracting in spite of wartime spending
>>519332408Not really. Pro russian and pro ukrainian are heavilyshifted to one side or another. But there are many based on the geolocation of troops and show a very accurate 1-2 days lagging picture.
>>519347227>They still exist as an independent state.Anon...they literally need foreign money to close the budget deficit and to maintain essential operations.
>>519349347>UA would need a massive manpower and weapons infusion to have a chance.Kremlin keeps saying this but Ukraine has been keeping them at bay mostly with shit cheap plastic RC drones with fucking weaponry attached to them ffs. It’s a full on clown show out there, second best military in the world getting absolutely floored by Ukrainian drones and western weapons. And this is with help from China, Iran and NK on TOP of that.
>>519349622Then I guess Russia is not an independent state as it needed foreign troops to maintain control over its territory
>>519349622Because Russia doesn’t have a gaping hole of a budget deficit either. Can I ask what was supposed to be the total military expenditure for 2022 and now in 2025? And where are they getting that money from? Hopes and dreams?
>>519349677>Then I guess Russia is not an independent state as it needed foreign troops to maintain control over its territoryI'm alright with this. Why use your own citizens when you can just pay the mercenaries and use the NK cannon fodder instead? Russia's demography is in the shitter as it is and they know perfectly well that a full-scale mobilization is not going to be popular, to say the least.
>>519349775>Because Russia doesn’t have a gaping hole of a budget deficit either.6 billion dollars give or take>And where are they getting that money from? Hopes and dreams?About 300 billion dollars of foreign debt.
>>519336228>>519336288The USA used biolabs to make weaponized ticks. The goal was to sicken the Cuban farm workers so they'd not be able to bring in the crop and they'd starve. This came out in the recent JFK dump.RUS figured (paranoid or not) that NATO was doing something like that in Ukraine, or might do it. RUS told UA to stop it.The state department jews and jews running ukraine didn't mind starting a war that would pointlessly kill off a bunch of goyim. They've gotten rich off the war and will jet to Israel or Miami when it collapses.So good for the jews and too bad for the gullible goyim. The Ukrainians might not ever figure it out.
>>519331467shh
>>519344351>Arent 90% of the women and children in Europe though?They are not, where did you get this nonsense?
>>519336514>Russia took .7% of Ukraine in the entire 2024. Who is delusional? This war is a constant death of Russian solders and will continue for the next 20 yearsNo. In a year or two UA will be out of men and RUS will get he whole country, all at once. That's how attritional conflicts work. Your linear math is a retarded model. Think tug-of-war - two teams pulling on a rope. Eventually one side gets gassed and that's it. >>519336575>TWO WEEKS. Anyways, let me know whenever they actually do any of the objectives that Putin promised well over 4 years ago. I’m sue they can do it, this is a little slavic shithole, surely nothing for the second best army in the world LMAO.Putin never said two weeks. That's a NATO talking point - pretend the Russians had an objective they never announced and then shit talk them for not achieving it. All that does is get more Ukrainians killed so jews can salt away money for after the collapse. Russia is going to destroy the Ukrainian military by killing all the troops. That's "denazification" - when all the guys are dead that's it. You can laugh at the absurdity of calling them "nazis" - but it signals that they'll get treated like the Circassians - erased. Like when jews call their enemies "nazis" or "amalekite" - that's a jew telling the other jews you need to die.>>519337209>Russia is much better prepared for long haul attritional warfare than Ukraine is.It is fascinating that their weapons are simple and cheap so officers don't need to be super experienced to run them. Their army and weapons are geared for attrition, unlike NATO.>>519337216>They deserve to be exterminated for how retarded they are for falling for kikelensky.Some say the goyim get the jews they deserve. Compare German-jews to the Ukrainian or (god forbid) Moldovan jews. Or Persian jews. LOL>>519337343It isn't about m^2/year. It is about killing UA men. The most motivated and patriotic guys are already dead, perhaps killed by RUS convict troops.
>>519349199Damn, time flies. Ok, i stand corrected
>>519349677Christ.... please show us on the doll a spot where evil russian touched you
>>519349504Wrong conclusion. Both sides figures at some point it's waste of manpower to use ifvs, because just more infantry will die when they get hit. If the motorbike gets hit 1 or 2 die, if ifv gets hit 10 will die.
>>519338196>of course I understand that, Ukraine never wanted this war, it was Russian the invaded and started this shit show.Mearsheimer would say that RUS told UA to not cozy up to NATO. UA ignored that until RUS finally made it clear they won't allow it. If UA had acted like post-WW2 Finland and stayed neutral this might have been avoided. Basically, the Ukrainian goyim were seduced by the State Department. They trusted State Department jews and the jew oligarchs and the jews that the State Department jews put into the Ukrainian government. Now the goyim will die as the jews use them as pawns.The jews knew it would go a bit like this. They didn't care, because they figured it would be goyim doing the dying as the jews got rich off the war. A bit like when the USA invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Patriotic goyim died and jews got rich and enjoyed seeing their sandnig enemies destroyed.If you think I'm wrong - please correct me with facts.
