Every single political issue can be pointed to that. How would any form of degeneracy and problems be normal without fornication first being normalized? >homosexuality>transgenderism >whoreness >low trust>weakness>greedinessHow can any of these be allowed in a society that doesn't allow fornication? It can't because if the relationship between men and women matter so much you can imagine how much the other things would matter too. And it's barely talked about how traumatizing it is and stop people from being able to pair bond.
>>519332107People who are obsessed with sex are either small penised, can't orgasm, or yearn for their youth.I have never cared about sexual partner numbers or anything or felt jealous because I know I can bring my woman to a great orgasm and have fun exploring our sexual lives together.
Nanny states are low trust by definition.
>>519332107It became legal to manipulate and lie to and pump and dump virgins with zero real consequences
>>519332324No, you're either an extremely coping cuck, a crossdresser or a woman. Through all of history men would never be with a woman someone else has been with.
>>519332442>Through all of history men would never be with a woman someone else has been with.Incorrect. Sexual norms deviate heavily based on time and place. One reason traditional western norms of sexuality are changing are birth control and condoms etc.
>>519332365Yes, that's why Scandinavia had the highest trust countries in the world. Why do subhumans like you even bother posting? I don't get it, you're the most annoying uppity faggots in the world.
>>519332515Would you consider Iceland a high trust society? The average age to lose virginity there is 15 or something
>>519332395Yep, I just can't comprehend why they would allow the kikes to subvert them like that.>>519332499>Incorrect. Sexual norms deviate heavily based on time andNot true at all, arranged marriages were and in some places are still the norm. Maybe in some exceptional modern tribes that couldn't survive in the past, sure.>>519332646>a high trust societyNo such a country exists anymore, that's why I said had. It seems like even the amish are getting subverted.
>>519332771>were and in some places are still the normThere were also Polynesian societies that had free sex, no STDs and nobody knew who the dad was and they all raised the kids together. When Europeans arrived there the women literally ran to the men to have sex and none of the men cared because there wasn't the same complexes and fixations you, a Bulgarian incel in the year 2025, might have. To say "My romanticized notion of western sexual norms is all there's ever been" is incorrect>>519332771Iceland doesn't exist anymore? They seem to be doing fine. BTW would you rather live in Norway or Estonia OR Mali or Chad. Mali and Chad are more aligned with your sexual beliefs.
>>519332947>Polynesian societiesWhich is exactly what I said but you're mentally retarded and can't even read. Of course some savage third world island might have degenerates but in reality the things are very different. You're starting to get really mad because you have been exposed as the cuck, crossdresser or tranny that you're, funny.>Iceland doesn't exist anymore?Yep, you can't even read and don't know what a citation is. >They seem to be doing fine>BTW would you rather live in Norway or Estonia OR Mali or ChadThey are slowly but surely turning into the same thing.
>>519333218How are they savages? Or third world? >Yep, you can't even read and don't know what a citation is.Iceland does exist and they are high trust and they have lots of sex>They are slowly but surely turning into the same thing.Which would you rather live in? The sexually liberated Norway and Estonia or the sexually repressed based and trad Mali and Chad
>>519333218Also if your argument is >Sexual proclivities naturally fluctuate based on the society's economy, industry, geography, etcIs it possible birth control is naturally going to influence sexual proclivities. I imagine if someday there's an easy cure for all major STD's that would also make people more open to fucking freely. Why is it that brothels were a-okay in early America but were outlawed in the progressive era here? Shouldn't it be the other way around.
>>519333340>How are the people who literally live in the stone age and do whatever they want savagesI have no idea what you're trying to say anymore.>Iceland doesIt does exist, but high trust countries don't.>Which would you rather live inThese countries were good because of their high trust, now that they have removed that they will soon become like the African ones because this what they are importing anyway.>>519333475>ifBut the thing is that there would be nobody to maintain the modern civilization as you know it, more and more people are checking out and the third worlders can't do even the simple jobs right.
>>519332646Age of virginity loss =/= dick count. If you only have 1 dick lifetime, losing at 15-16 is fucking perfect. Peak fucking time right there. It's only a problem when dick count becomes iterative instead of constant. That's when the bad things happen: bonding chemicals lose effectiveness, you get used to pumping and dumping, ego gets inflated, standards inflate, willingness to work dies, etc.
>>519332771>It seems like even the amish are getting subverted.The kikes fucked with them a bit, they got super pissed, and Trump got elected as a result.Worst the kikes can really do is spread shit on social media about the women who leave the community, trying to smear it as best as possible. Of course there is no "where are they now" after these women leave and whore it up, but hit the wall at 40. THAT would be some sobering footage right there.
>>519333625What does the word savage mean to you? I think Bulgarians were more savage than some polynesian cultures pre contact.>but high trust countries don't.Iceland is a high trust country. Which countries do you think have more high trust? Sex open european ones or african ones where they cut off the clit?>But the thing is that there would be nobody to maintain the modern civilization as you know it, more and more people are checking out and the third worlders can't do even the simple jobs right.Bullshit doomerism I assume you think two more weeks until the collapse?>>519333681Why is dick count bad? I've never once cared about it and always enjoyed my sex life. Dick count only matters if you're an obsessed faggot because you have anxieties about your own sexual performance. Now maybe you have a preference for virgins, that's fine. But don't act like people having sex is destroying society. It's not.
>>519333985>I thinkYou obviously can't think at all as we can see. >Which countries do you think have more high trust?>doesn't understand how time worksAre you a nigger, seriously?>Bullshit doomerismSo you can't explain who's going to do the jobs?
>>519335051You refuse to answer so I accept your concession.> who's going to do the jobs?Who's going to do what jobs? Where is this "great check out" you're speaking off that I've seen 0 proof of since Milo made it up out of thin air.
>>519335281>You refuse to answerWhat did I refuse to answer? >Who's going to do what jobs?Ah, so you think the cities are just powered by pure will? WOW! You're clearly exactly the subhumans that destroy civilizations that I talked about, up to a dot.
>>519335443>What did I refuse to answer? Would you rather live in Norway or Estonia with open sexuality OR chad or Mali?>so you think the cities are just powered by pure will?When did I say that. I asked you for proof large amounts of people are dropping out of the workforce because of sex issues.
>>519335918>Would you rather live in Norway or EstoniaThis is a dishonest question because you refuse to acknowledge the long term consequences. Of course it's still better but soon it won't be any different than Africa.>Where did I say that.>Who's going to do what jobs?You're clearly ridiculing it. You deserve to have your food prepared by pajeets and other third worlders for an example, it's pure natural selection.>I asked you for proof>One in five young people around the world is currently a NEET, according to the International Labour Organization. In the U.S., this jumps to about 11.2% of young adults. Meanwhile in the U.K., almost 3 million Gen Zers are now classed as economically inactive.
>>519336295You can't answer because it BTFOs your entire argument >You're clearly ridiculing itI'm ridiculing your BS claim asserted without evidence.>One in five young peopleNice that you left our women:>According to the International Labour Organization (ILO), 20.4% of young people aged 15–24 worldwide were classified as NEET (Not in Employment, Education, or Training) in 2023. This equates to approximately 262 million youth globally. The NEET rate is notably higher among young women, with two-thirds of NEETs being femaleI wonder why you left our that fact. Could it be because women in some shithole nations, for instance, have no choice to get educated or work?>In North America, the youth NEET rate was reported as 11.2% in 2023, the lowest among global regions.Why are we so low compared to your epic utopias in Africa or MIddle east? You realize that includes young women who get married and stay home which happens a lot here. Those aren't all incel drop outs.
>>519336584>because it BTFOs your entire argumentNo it doesn't. I literally explained why it's fundamentally wrong.>I wonder why you left our that factBecause we are talking about the west, not third world countries... Is it the dilation that makes you act so stupid?>epic utopias in Africa or MIddle east>even though I mention that they are backwards beyond thatYou do realize that even the most naive people are starting to wake up to the bullshit people like you say? Can you imagine how inept that makes people like you?
>>519336835>No it doesn't. I literally explained why it's fundamentally wrong.No it doesn't.>You do realize that even the most naive people are starting to wake up to the bullshit people like you say? Can you imagine how inept that makes people like you?Sure two more weeks until your incel revolution.Anyway I just BTFO'd your stats by showing you most NEETs are women, not men. Anything else?
>>519336903>No it doesn't.>haha yes these countries are still better so it means that in twenty years when the foreigners are the majority their standards of living would be the sameStrange enough, even the immigrants are starting to talk about how it's more dangerous to live in these countries than in their homes. I guess they are just lying?>Anyway I just BTFOThe only thing you have BTFOed is your dignity.
>>519337052>even the immigrants are starting to talk about how it's more dangerous to live in these countries than in their homes.No they aren't. >The only thing you have BTFOed is your dignity.You told me men were dropping out of society and becoming NEETs then cited numbers about NEETs and those same stats say women are the majority of NEETS
>>519337189>No they aren't.Yes, obviously they aren't. Just like the crime rates aren't real etc. Yet you're still not a woman.>women are the majority of NEETSIn the third world...
>>519337731So all these immigrants say it's so dangerous yet stay and more and more people want to come? Yet nobody wants to move to Mali or Iraq.>In the 3rd worldAnd the USA according to your graph.
>>519337913>all time low for women and all time high for men getting really close>and usaYep, peak subhuman cattle. You're clearly a lower form of being.
>>519338013Isn't that good though? Don't you want young women being stay at home moms and staying out of the workforce?
>>519338238>prove to him that he's wrong>Isn't that good thoughDamn...>being stay at home momsThat's clearly not the case.
>>519338324You didn't prove to me I'm wrong. You showed me a graph showing a slight uptick in male NEETs because women are entering the work force. Then called the USA evil for having more stay at home mom's.Sorry, if you can't compete with women maybe you aren't that smart.
>>519338324>That's clearly not the case.Yes it is. USA has more religious conservatards than UK, Canada, and France who want to be baby makers. It's the same reason Middle east and africa have so many female neets
>>519332947>Polynesian societies that had free sex, no STDs and nobody knew who the dad wasThis is only possible in an isolated island. Hence it was possible in 1800s and earlier.
>>519338368>because women are entering the work force>even though in the graph shows that they get lowerWTF?>Sorry, if you can't compete with women maybe you aren't that smart.DEI and sexual favors don't make them smarter because the quality of everything only gets worse.
>>519338511Except free sex has been a thing in the west for a long time and the sky hasn't fallen. For instance in Finland>>519338324Also your claim was "men are checking out" Not Men are competing with women for more jobs
>>519338588>even though in the graph shows that they get lowerLower means less NEETs aka they are entering the workforce>DEI and sexual favors don't make them smarter because the quality of everything only gets worse.Said like a true brainlet. You can't even interpret the graph you posted correctly
>>519338601>>519338653Still not a woman.
>>519338601but now there is STD everywhere, so who what is the point of discussion we are trying to make?things will work for a while, in non global world, but not on a global world
>>519338782>what is the point of discussionPoint? Do you think people who are mentally ill care about such things?
>>519338730>No argument>>519338782>STD is everywhereEver heard of safe sex? Or only fucking people who have clean tests? I have lots of casual sex I just make the woman show me their results first.
>>519332107not as cut and dry as you think, but yeah, not great. Well, the thing is that this is really a symptom of a deeper rot within our culture. Across history, urban elites always grow decadent and degen. bitter truth is that pure catholic style till death do us part is hard and does have costs. we really don't need 9 kids a woman, well maybe our generation does, and the next one after it but the parabolic trajectory of population that the club of rome was worried about isn't unfounded. Now we've gone wayyyy to far in the other direction. The middle way has never been humanity's strong suit. Women have always been Dionysian sluts, always, even the virgins are craven and have the capacity to be antisocial with their sexuality. Promiscuity is literally antisocial behaviour except the cost is paid indirectly
good thread
>>519339644>not as cut and dry as you think>but yeah, not greatThen you clearly deserve all the indians in the world.
>>519340130Well, go ahead and cope and seethe about the state of humans, implying that people should be different. Well, they aren't, and you can't change that. A thread died for this
>>519340465>A thread died for thisYes, your indian discord thread got archived, what a tragedy.
