Previous: >>519314211Day 1,334 – Daily assessment: https://understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>Refinery in Samara region and gas processing plant in Orenburg droned>Russia’s 2025 Offensive: 500,000 Lost for Just 0.4% of Ukraine - The Economist>Russia to borrow a further 4.25T>Ukrainian APKWS downed a Kh-69 cruise missile>Russians are dying to Ukrainians 14:1 - Trump>Russia to mobilise from reserve soldiers of 2 million>Trump says russia has taken 1.5million casualties.>Ukraine has liberated Alekseevka>Russia's current account in Q2 falls to just $5.4B the lowest level of the war>The Ukrainian defense forces pushed the enemy back further near Nowe Schachowe, Solotyj Kolodjas, Kutscherowo Jar, and Nowopawliwka, - DeepState>No arab countries attended russia's summit, despite nearly all being invited>Khoroshe, Novoselivka, and Sichneve have been liberated>Mali Scherbaky & Sherbaky proper has been liberated>Pokvorsk is no longer our focus, the main focus now is to capture Prymorske - gerasimov, supreme commander of the russian army>Feodosia oil terminal is still burning for 5 days now>Some residents of New Moscow were left without electricity and water due to an "accident">The rise in gasoline prices in Russia set a 14-year record>Putin has started another mobilization, Russians are receiving notices on their electronic devices, barring them from leaving the country>40 000 Belgorod residents without electricity▶Telegramhttps://rentry.org/telosint2023https://t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelhttps://t.me/DeepStateENhttps://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)https://ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapshttps://deepstatemap.live/enhttps://liveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOUR 1: files.catbox.moe/34fuhc.txtTOUR 2: files.catbox.moe/uj2wut.txtTOUR 3: files.catbox.moe/hmyd98.txtTOUR 4: files.catbox.moe/cdenxe.txt
REMINDERA simple way to spot shills/discord trannies is by their inability to post jewpills and holohoax content.And to-date, no /uhg regulars have yet to pass this simple 'turing test'.>inb4 only shitskins can be antisemetic
>cofi status?
>>519336496ty for bake
>>519336568
>>519336568Eh, do you have an ashtray for a brain? Because it seems there is a lot of jews inside your head.Now, for the most important thing TZD.
>>519336496Thank you Mohammed for taking black dick whole night! What a noble sacrifice!Allah is Great!
>>519336496When will the pigkraine stop losing?
>check out my tranny collectionno thanks you can keep that thing to yourself
>>519336496Anon you apparently spend hours a day making these threads, posting a vid from your gore folder, add some kekaroo or some gibberish to taunt russia, wait for the timer and rinse and repeat. You're basically talking to yourself, not even trolling the pro russian anons because they're in their own thread having actual discussions presumably because theres something happening on their "side". So why? No i am not Russian just passing through, believe me or not, just have you considered if you will ever look back and regret all these hundreds of hours of your free time and life you've wasted on this ?
>>519336992Time wasted on TZD is time not wasted. Murder all russians
>>519336992To each one his own. Over here we find amusing Russia's best chance at winning a war has been reduced to trollposting and sweet-talking boomers.
TOTAL 14:1 ZIGGER 14:1 DEATH 14:1
>mfw I catch mearshy larping as an american in other threads
>>519336065>you dont care that ukrainians get dragged off the street and forced into the meat grinder to be killed in equally brutal waysOf course I do.Your children will curse everything that you are by the time they are done paying for your crimes.
Your all failureI am generaliI do not care from where you are
Everyone wants the right command
STRUGGLESURVIVALSECURITYHAILVICTORYOR VALHALLAB L O O DH O N O RS O I Lᛟᛉᛋhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNuw42EQsnEA Z O V --- MADE IN UKRAINE [295K+]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmYYQH8PaGEKOST GORDIYENKO [945K+]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GrVbNkVHx0 [360K+]U K R A I N E W A V EHAIL AZOVHAIL KRAKENHAIL AFU // VOLUNTEERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y91AhF6aRQo Russia's Oil Industry is Collapsing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPjWeoCLRfM&t=12s Russian Conspiracies Spread At The Front https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcRiDL-A5aY&t=3s Russia Tried A Large Armored Assault....Again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9rFctKqbFQ Heavy Russian Losses From Failed Mechanized Assault https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJylxp6iVrY&t=3s US Intel Guides Ukrainian Strikes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0FO6BIvz2M IT FINALLY HAPPENED! Putin's Favorite Minister of Economy DELIVERED BAD NEWS. Upcoming Debt Storm
THE COPIUM INTENSIFIES -30,000 RUSSIANS PER MONTH 1% OF UKRAINE IN 18 MONTHS THAT'S -540,000 RUSSIANS IN A YEAR AND A HALF A DAILY REMINDER
͡• ᴥ ͡•)>>VDVDropped>>MoskvaReturned>>CrestsPeaked>>GlovesOff>>EyebrowRaised>>Great LeaderSpoken>>BearAwoken>>TuvanShrugged>>EveryoneUnderstood>>AssIn the Ass>>MissileAss>>ButtonObserved>>BallsScratched>>MunitionsRubbered>>Red-lineApproached>>ThingsKnown>>ConclusionsDrawn>>HedgehogAggravated>>PotatoesPeeled>>BananDemanded>>CauldronSimmering>>PrigozhinComplicated>>Trash heapClimbed>>PantsGravy’d>> TacticalStrengthened>>CoconutsCorroded>>ForelockSquared>>EggsMeasured>>MobiksCubed>>FlightEternal>>MedsForsaken>> 9/11@Home>>PoolsClosed>>ScootersBoogaloo'd
T Z D Z D D E A T H W A V E
I see the jeet niggers are trying to cope again KEKAROOO, I fucking love dead russian niggers
It's fun watching jeet niggers on memeflaggots noootroool posting.
>>519338545>>519338545>>519338545PRAISE GORELEAF HAIL VICTORY TZD. 14:1 --- UKRAINE HAS A RIGHT TO A SELF DEFENSE SITUATION
THE ZIGGERS ARE SIMPLY NOT OKAY [Irreplaceable damage]
>>519338464Did he headbunt it?
Let's not forget that mudslime nigger shills got super uptity when their zutt lifestyle was exposed KEKAROOO
mohammed was a zutt slut KEKAROOOO
>>519338706>>519338706>>519338706iFUNNIER THAN THE ZIGGER WHO THREW GASOLINE AT ONE THEN EXPLODED MANY SUCH CASES
EVER SINCE WWII THE ZIGGERS HAVE HAD AN ENCIRCLEMENT ADDICTION, LOL. LMAO.
>>519338755>>519338755>>519338755K E K E K E K E K
brown niggers will never recover KEKAROOO
BLOOD SOIL VICTORY + THE BRIGADE+ A MIGHTY FORTRESS+ FREEDOM'S SONS+ FAME OF A DEAD MAN'S DEEDS+ ADL: 100 YEARS OF HATE // 200 YEARS TOGETHER [JQ]+ HITLER'S WAR+ THIS TIME THE WORLD // WHITE POWER+ SN33D BY: JAMES MASON+ IMPERIUM BY FRANCIS PARKER YOCKEY+ INSIDE ALLIED HIGH COMMAND: WAR BETWEEN THE GENERALS+ COSMOTHEISM TRILOGY+ MARCH OF THE TITANSASHA LOGOSZOOMER HISTORIANwww.AlexLinder.com/AudioHISTORY OF THE SCHUTZSTAFFEL:https://youtu.be/E_5rRVkfHz0?si=8Mg-zNK-28NvOZYaTHE NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES:https://youtu.be/x8PfTwLiYQE?si=AbHuJMw6YsIZJcGtOUTBREAK OF WWII:https://youtu.be/j9umwEhi7sI?si=iv7FATOiI5DsPF6Z [P-O-L-A-N-D]CATTLE DIE & KINSMAN DIEAND SO ONE DIES ONE'S SELFONE THING NOW THAT NEVER DIESTHE FAME OF A DEAD MAN'S DEEDSMY HONOR IS MY LOYALTYALL ACCOUNTS WILL BE SETTLEDFREEDOM COMES FROM THE SWORDWE WILL NEVER GO BACK
ISW needs to fire whatever retarded jeet it was who broke the fucking map
>>519339055LEL
>>519339151LMAO saved.
>Russia to increase propaganda spending by 54% in 2026, — MFA SybihaAre you prepared for more "skilled" jeet workers showing up next year?
DAILY REMINDER THE GOVERNMENT // ZIONISTS // EVANGELICALS ARE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO SABOTAGE THE SITUATION. A DAILY REMINDER. UKRAINE & EVROPA MUST PREPARE ACCORDINGLY. THE POLITICAL FLIP FLOPPING WILL CONTINUE RICH PEOPLE JUST WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH RUSSIA, THAT'S BASICALLY WHY. JUST AN F.Y.I. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBrvoW2aI1g Trump Caves on Ukraine Again
A REMINDER THAT EVERYONE IS AGAINST US AND WE ARE STILL SLAUGHTERING THE ZIGGER MENACE. SLAVA UKRAINE GLORY TO HEROES NEVER SURRENDER --- NEVER CAPITULATE
>>519340341>>519340341>>519340341-1.1 MILLION RUSSIANS 1.1+ MILLION AFRICANS & INDIANS MANY SUCH CASES... RUSSIA HAS SUBJECTED THEMSELVES TO THE SAME FATE OF THE WESTERN WORLD... THIS IS GOD'S PUNISHMENT FOR WWII SINS OF THE FATHER... CHURKA CHEKISTS
>>Pentagon Chief Pete Hegseth came to the meeting of Trump and Zelensky wearing a tie in the colors of the Russian flag. Hegseth is known for his dislike of Zelensky DAILY REMINDER ZOG IS RETARDED
>>519340535the z in zionist stands for zigger
What are russniggers and norkgooks dying for?
>>519336992>actual discussionPedos posting underage anime girls isn't discussion.>free timeKek, I only browse when I'm at work, meaning I essentially get paid to laugh at you. Something an unemployed parasite like you will never experience.>tzdNow that I can agree with. TZD
>>519340341If Russia's economy was weakening, how could they afford this? Checkmate, atheists!
>>519336496Why are Hoholinas such eyesores?
>>519340752>>519340752>>519340752THAT IT DOES
>>519336568Zutts gang-banged mohammed.
>>519341044>>519341044>>519341044NICE SELF PROJECTION JEETIES
OY VEY I WONDER WHO COULD POSSIBLY BE BEHIND THIS SERIES OF EVENTS... A MYSTERY
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1979894593836699753Supposedly russian MAX service got hacked
>>519341044It will be a great thing when Russia takes over Ukraine and repopulates it with beautiful Russian women.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnx5shdXlVk&t=1513sWhy do russian patriots have to explain why they don't sign the contracts? I guess the ziggers are starting to notice what the SMO really means.
>>519336496TzD
>>519341465its a land war, not a contract war
>>519341465No need to sign anything, Putin has a new law so he can just mobilize reservists without declaring a mobilization
>>519341465People do not want to sign contracts because they dont want to take government money for themselves. Thats capitalistic move, honest citizen do not wish to place its burden on society.
Pidors already deploy their >europe is going to freezethreads.
TZD
>>519342096
>>519342560>>519342560>>519342560
>>519337223>picrelgrim
>>519342560i'm really surprised by how well the drone footage of this operation is being received by the public, it's a great example of how drones can be used to great effect in a military context. i'm looking forward to seeing more examples like this in the future
zussy status?
>>519342758bot malfunction?
>>519342797Zutted by the black warrior of Allah. Pokrovsk is Al-Pokra now, or the new Dusanbe as shuuravi call it
TOTAL TRAITOR DEATH [Dead Antifa FAGGOT]
>>519342204Is Europe going to freeze, fellow pidor?
>>519343172it’s going to fall to Islam before it freezes
>>5193422044th year of the war and I still haven't seen any poop stalagmites or stalagtites in Binland...
>>519336496TZD
>>519343268But then the Muslims will freeze
>>519343282Don't believe your lying eyes comrade, the poop stalagmites have taken over whole finland RT told me so
>>519343282
>>519342797mounted
>>519343282>I still haven't seen any poop stalagmites or stalagtitesthere were, in Moscow
>>519343567
>>519343567>>519343598I'm aware, but Moscow is not in Binland :D:D
>>519336568God I hate holohoaxers so much it's insane, flat earthes, holohoaxers all that has such a ginormous glownigger vine it's surreal
>>519343088Song dedicated to this commie filthNo Remorse - Smash The redshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq0OSwTzSywKrafstchlag - Ha ha ha antifahttps://vk.com/video-178703278_456240883Fortress - I hate commie scumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFJbLUlGYjc
If only you knew how brown things really are
Why do hohols unironically fall for this McDonalds meme? Their national dishes such as Russian borsh on salo or Kievan Rus chicken are trad and based, better nutritionally, taste good. What's the point in worshipping the American goyslop? Apparently Americans don't even see them as equals and aren't interested in sending their soldiers to defend their equal. They just throw them weapons and bones to don't die completely and keep fucking with Russia.
>>519344504>Russian borshLazy bait, nigger. Your dish is shee, eat those.
>>519342204But Europe has already froze in late 2022?!
>>519344665>sheemore like sheeeeeat
>>519344504Eat cow dung, pidorashka.
>>519344399Cute image, but as far as i know people supposed to love Antijewst? Lol.Lmao.
>>519343896...yet.>>519344399Czeched. They do biege like that.Last, but not least, don't forget to filter the shills.>PZ1TyEF8>OBoKxZMp>odbvnhXF>BL3sbX80 (falseflagging bangladeshit)>jWfIQL6L (triggered trooncord cum/chug/ger)
>>519336992I checkedThey're posting:- AI slop- Zutt (weird as they are muslims)- new halucinations about le winning
>Dutch suspend intelligence sharing with the US because they suspect the White House was sharing their info with Russia>Dutch intelligence services now share less information with USThe Dutch intelligence services are sharing less information with the United States and working more closely with European partners, AIVD director Erik Akerboom and MIVD director Peter Reesink have told the Volkskrant in a joint interview.Their caution towards Washington is linked to what they describe as the increasingly autocratic course of president Donald Trump, who has dismissed senior officials for lacking loyalty and used lawsuits to pressure journalists, judges and universities.The directors said this is the first time developments in the US are directly shaping Dutch intelligence ties, marking a break with decades of close cooperation with the CIA and NSA.“That we sometimes don’t tell things anymore, that is true,” Reesink said, while Akerboom added that sharing is now considered case by case. “We are very alert to the politicisation of intelligence and to human rights violations,” he told the paper.It's officialy - the americans are TRAITORS
>>519341465It's deranged to present this as some kind of peremoga when hohols get abducted in broad daylight en masse.
Look at how based and trad things are
>>519345325Лaхтa, cпoк.
>>51934548415 y old? There are going to enlist next year, better to prepare them.
>>519344968chug do consist of diverse people who share the dream of russian victory such as 1. buckbroken dissident right who want to see the fall of western liberalism so they can replace it with their ideology2. unironic actual commie who also want to see the fall of western liberalism so they can replace it with their ideology3. thirdies nationalists who relish at the idea of the fall of the western nationsso you can have muslims shouting death to western nations, christian nationalist and their death to muslim, communist who finally able to express their disdains towards their more popular demsoc "brother", and right winger so far in their contrarian that i won't be surprised if they actually supports communist strongman e.g. maga communism
>>519345484Based give ziglets PTSD from an early ageMore lil criminals culturally enriching other pidors
>>519336992No, on russian boards we have mirror situationRussian Z-men discuss about greatness Russian Empire, cause they believe - Russia fight against all West, and this is only reason - why russian army couldn't capture it in three and a half years fucking Slavyansk suffering 200,000 casualties.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORNING the ukraine! Quick, frenly reminder: you lost trannies lmaooooooooo!
Who could have guessed that it will end up like that
>>519345978>If I post the low res meme map it truly is over for the Ukraine
>>519345484So nice of Russians, they are murdering the future of their nation unprompted -good luck to themAnd nothing of the value was lost
>>519345978>>519345916Seethe, lmaooooo
>>519345484someone should tell the kids how they can escape that fucked up country> one boy couldn't be revived afterwardsone dead? holy fuck.
>>519340986Russian government again and again rases taxes and reduces social expenses. But expenses on military growing ofc.We have nice joke about this:Dad comes home and says: "my salary has been reduced."Dad, will you drink less now? - the little son asks.No, son, you're going to eat less now
>>519345978Seva, did you clean your cum-stained pants finally?
>>519346494>It was wood glue.. I mean photoshop
>>519343429No self-reflection at all. They deserve everything coming to them.
>>5193459782 more centuries and Donbass will be ours urraaaa
>>519346513Wood glue is an acceptable term for cum
>>519346075Very low effort and desperate sounding comrade, GRIM! Was at least the weekend any good? Do you have any particularly steamy plapping session you would like to report on, maybe?
>>519346494Aisha did
>>519346536We have self-reflection. And have thinking people. But when for you can get arrested or killed for saying the wrong thing.It's getting really hard, not just to do something. But even once again to show the disloyalty of the authorities.Last week, a street singer named Naoko was detained in St. Petersburg for singing anti-war songs. Googled Naoko Russia.Yes, maybe twenty years ago, we had a chance to become a normal country. But now, I don't know. Now we're back in the Gulag. It's not that all Russians are bad. It's that all Russians haven't been asked if they want to kill and die.When only murderers can speak, and pacifists are silenced and imprisoned, it's only natural for others to perceive Russians as a nation of murderers.
>>519346137That's not a joke and not nice comrade, only a deranged tranny would find this fun. SAD!
>>519346738kek
>>519346856>But when for you can get arrested or killed for saying the wrong thing.Why won't you emigrate?
>>519346901Well, that's a very old Soviet joke. You're supposed to like it according to your LARP.
>>519346834Why, don't you have enough pegging from your cumrag gf? ;)
>>519346985I've been thinking a lot about thisBut, first of all, I already have elderly parents here. They can't cope without me, and there won't be enough money to move them somewhere. And I don't want to sell my housing for pennies, I've worked for it for so many years, and now it's worth a penny.Secondly, I still believe that something will change. After all, this is my country, and I love Moscow, for example, I like my city. And finally, the day before yesterday, I went outside with a sign "Cвoбoдy Haoкo" (Freedom for Naoko). I felt like I had done something right, even if it was useless. In exile, I won't be able to do even such a small thing, and I won't be able to bring my country closer to freedom.
>>519345978>bragging about 1 (one) 30-50k city every two years, at bestlmao is this the might of the global military superpower?
>>519347255>I went outside with a sign "Cвoбoдy Haoкo" (Freedom for Naoko). I felt like I had done something right, even if it was useless. Pic related lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
>>519347255you realize that for things to get "better" and russia to become more like a european country, pynya's FSB regime would need to fall and russia basically collapse as a country
>>519347309>w-we n-never c-cared a-about P-porkroast a-anywayI knew my /uhg/ comrades wouldn't disappoint me today!
>>519347255I wish you all the best. Russia deserves to become a normal country, even with all the fucked up things it has done in the past. People like you are the only chance your country has, but it's a uphill battle with all the vatnik propaganda that seeped into the society over the years.
>>519347255>But, first of all, I already have elderly parents here.1. Most parents would want you to have a good future first and foremost.2. Being outside you'd have more prospects to help them financially, as opposed to being locked inside the shitfest.>And I don't want to sell my housing for pennies, I've worked for it for so many years, and now it's worth a penny.Rent it out, use that as a way to support the parents, no?>Secondly, I still believe that something will change. Not necessarily for the good>and I love Moscow, for example, I like my city. And most of the "good things" in it are a result of living in a centralized authoritarian empire. You can't have one without another.>Secondly, I still believe that something will change. After all, this is my country, and I love Moscow, for example, I like my city. You don't change things for the better with useless actions. Going to "navalny's meetings" and launching paper airplanes for a decade should have shown that.
>>519347376You right about FSBAbout collapse - dont knowWe In 1991, we had a chance for democracy without collapse. Without civil war, if you say about it
>>519347547>Russia deserves to become a normal countryDo they really? I imagine that country deserves even worse due to it actions.
>>519347601We all know that TRD is only acceptable outcome. It doesn't matter if it is liberashka or pidorashka.
>>519338416https://youtu.be/RHp5OMwght8Earth Science Oil Tech and Aaron Dover's Biography of Conrad Schlumberger
You should come up with excuses why you didn't need Pokrovsk anyway and how 6 gorrilions russians died capturing Pokrovsk
>>519347730Total Retard Displacement? Why comrade, I too am a strong advocate for gulags.
>>519347548About meetings - i dont sure that this useless. Yes, we have examples of rallies that didn't lead to anything in our country. But we either have examples that did. In Romania, in Armenia, and ofc in Ukraine.I understand. Our country worst in this. Neither Romania nor Ukraine were police states, nor were they waging a war of conquest. But that doesn't mean we don't have a chance.As for the rest, it's generally true.
>>519347730The tiny amount of sane russians should just leave the country and build them normal life elsewhere, far away from FSB, kremlin and other shit.
>>519338915faggot
>>519347547Thank You
>>519347576ask yourself how pynya's regime could fall? if he just dies or is overthrown by another FSB glownigger, nothing really changesno, russia needs to collapse like the USSR and a normal europe-like government needs to be elected
>>519347831>Yes, we have examples of rallies that didn't lead to anything in our country. But we either have examples that did. In Romania, in Armenia, and ofc in Ukraine.That's kinda the point, bro. Those rallies happened in different conditions, and those rallies were different. Society was involved in those rallies in Ukraine, Armenia and so on. While in russia most of the society supports the regime in one way or another. Protests in Ukraine and other countries didn't cuck out before the regime and responded with more force for any attempt to suppress them, while russians ran ahead to cuck out prematurely even before being suppressed. Navalny was a mistake, he neutered the russian protests for a decade.
>>519347774what would you say is the timeline on when the rest of pokrovsk will be taken as your map suggest that more than half is already either taken or contestedwould 2 weeks be an accurate approximation?
>>519347601Honestly yes. This is also in your and our interest. As long as Russia is a breeding ground for vatniks, this will never end. Even if the Russians leave, churkas, chinks, pajeets and whatever other vermin will replace them, as long as this ideology is left to fester there.
>>519347601War criminals really deserves even worse.But all Russians should not be held responsible for a handful of murderers and cannibals. To some extent, they should atone for what they have done. But the majority of the country is simply amorphous. As is the case everywhere. They should pay for their lack of involvement and their silently support for the murderers.But it is precisely for this reason that we need to change the country to ensure that such a thing never happens again. We need to prevent a war.The Second World War might not have occurred if Germany had not been plagued by revanchism. It is the democratic changes in the future that will prevent the new fascists from taking power in my country again.
>>519348089Pokrovsk will fall by november
>>519347853You speak nonsense. Why you always fall for this, naive snowflakes?
>>519348122would you mind if i screenshot this post and remind you of it on the 1st of december?
>>519348183ok
Can you tell us if you have enough gasoline to reach Kiev at least in 40 years?
>>519348219looking forward to it!
>>519348122When you say by November, you mean by the time November 1st rolls around, i.e. within October? Or do you mean during November? Asking for clarification in case there's a grammatical miscommunication
>>519348293it's a land war, not a gasoline war
>>519348138I have more than a dozen sane normal friend from russia, that being said all but one emigrated already, some started to do that before 2022 btw
>>519347949Its true about normal government.This regime could fall if the Russian elites make concessions to the liberal-minded population (which is quite a lot in Russia) and hold free elections. After the reform of the courts and law enforcement agencies, the abolition of repressive articles, the withdrawal of troops and military bases, and so on. The elites can do this in order to preserve their wealth and live out their old age in peace.This is the best outcome without a bloody coup. And Russia cannot collapse like the Soviet Union. Some small regions, like Chechnya, may gain independence (and it would be better if they did), but overall, the USSR occupied many countries, including Poland, Ukraine, and others. There are many different nationalities. Currently, Russia only occupies a few regions and cannot collapse like the Soviet Union.The only chance is through free elections and a subsequent course towards liberalization, recognition of war crimes, and the rehabilitation of political prisoners.
>>519336496picrelthat almost look like an accident lol like someone got to drunk, but like I said Almost....on 2nd thought, could be a little of both like got drunk and an hero for shits and gigglesThey do be like that at times, the orcs. many such cases
vibe check
>>519347955So, it makes sense. And the coup in Russia really impossible. But gradual liberalization is possible, if the split elites (and they are split, because the security forces and the military are growing in influence during the war, and the oligarchs, on the contrary, are losing influence and money. There are already examples of such clashes of interests, which can be examined in more detail) do not want to lose what they have stolen over the years. In other words, when the oligarchs and top officials compromise with society in order to prevent the security forces from devouring them as well.And you're wrong when you say that the majority of the population supports the war. It just seems that way because the supporters of the war are the ones who are shouting the loudest. While the opponents are being silenced in every possible way. But both of them are small groups of people. The majority is amorphous. The majority tries to ignore the war. However, they do notice the rising taxes, the insane interest rates on loans, and the overall impoverishment of the nation
>>519348870>But gradual liberalization is possibleNot really. There are very little examples of autocratic regimes liberalizing without the autocrat dying first and even then. Is the Maduro regime more liberal than the one of Chavez? No.
>>519345484>this is nothing. they weren't even exposed to tradcon orthodox favorite pass time
>>519348988Well, I can only say one thing - I hope he dies as soon as possible Although, I understand, this does not mean an instant regime change. It is true that the problem lies in the system itself. However, now that the peaceful bureaucrats and oligarchs, even those who support this regime, are witnessing the consequences of autocracy and the way the FSB colonels are taking over their yachts and villas, there are two possible outcomes after P's death: an oligarchic system with gradual liberalization or a military junta consisting of police officers and military personnel. The first option is bad, but it will get better. The second option is very bad, but such regimes don't last long.
>>519349193The main point is that people in power, in the wide sense of the word, that is the inner circle of monke (kovalchuk, rotenberg, sechin, whatever) and the class of "new nobility" FSB faggots would get lynched should they lose power, hence it won't happen by itself.
>>519348870>And you're wrong when you say that the majority of the population supports the war.most of puccia are pensioners. They are firm putin supporters and all for restoring The Empire. Especially since they are not the ones who generally has to shed blood for it. Which is what this war is all about as without Ukraine there is no empire, only Muscovia Monke himself is a firm representative of this mentality. As is his court. take a look at their birth dates and its all the same gang. The children of WW2
>Estonia stripped non-EU residents from participating in local electionsexpect some zigger seethe to come in to slander Estonia today>>519345484introduction course for conscription lol
>>519348870>There are already examples of such clashes of interests, which can be examined in more detailTell more anon. Two competing sets of elites is how you get a revolution.
>>519349325HmmmTo be fair, the last few months, the purges in the upper echelons have shown - they can be lynched now.And this, in fact, is the main hope. If before they all sang in unison, now the system is eating itself, the top is split. Therefore, it is quite likely that those who do not want to be eaten - may try to slightly change this system from within, reduce the possibilities of the security forces. This is really a possible plot, as if we have already seen something similar (in Portugal, for example, under Salazar). Well, these are just predictions. It's even more likely that things will get worse in the coming years. But we still want to hope for the best.
>>519348870>And you're wrong when you say that the majority of the population supports the war.Bruh, you live in bubble of normal people and are very naive. Like most of my friends from russia whom now left the country, after getting a dose of reality when their own friends, colleagues and relatives turn on the bloodthirsty mode in a single day. Just like the other anon said, take into account that:- the majority of the country are old fucks, mindbroken by soviet culture and mass media;- specifically, even more of them are old women, the most bloodthirsty ones possible, ready to send their husbands and kids into the meatgrinder for "what will the neighbors say". This isn't some theoretical thing, my friend's brother got mobilized (in moscow btw) because his mom ratted him out (he lived not at his place of residence). - most of the zoomers were born and raised under putin, they subscribe to propaganda meme groups and listen to pro-regime influencers;
>Stop paying attention for a few days>Dugin starts his king in yellow arcIn the zigger marvel multiverse you can't even blink or you miss something.
>>519348122What will you eat when it doesn't happen and will you stream it?
>>519349473I think Pu's problem isn't about what generation he's from, but that he's from the KGB. And that he's a complete scumbag.
>>519349651>To be fair, the last few months, the purges in the upper echelons have shown - they can be lynched now.That's the point, nobody from the real echelons of power is being purged. Some small time retards who were left holding the bag got sacked, but nobody will touch the real inner circle, likewise nobody will purge the FSB, since they are the source of power.
>>519349756The fuck is this
>>519349794It's both. Even someone like medvedev (if he somehow became a real president and not a temporary seat warmer) would be glad to continue selling oil and gas and wouldn't care about muh empire. Hence the reason why he plays the fool now, as not to seem as a potential viable replacement for monke.
>>519349670About the old women - of course. But the old women do not, as I think, have a great influence on the country's politics.About the zoumerov - absolutely do not agree. I say, google Naoko, the detention of a street singer. Look how many young people are going to listen to anti-war songs. How many sing along, know the lyrics even of those songs that the government has banned. I think it is among the youth that the majority do not support the war.
>>519349966>But the old women do not, as I think, have a great influence on the country's politics.The are the core pillar of legitimizing the regime's societal support. From being ready to ship off their kids into a bloodbath and being happy from getting compensations. To the point that all of the bureaucracy offices are stuffed with 40+ y.o. hags. Hags push propaganda to kids in schools. Those same hags them do elections fraud for the regime in local election committees. >About the zoumerov - absolutely do not agree. I say, google Naoko, the detention of a street singer. Look how many young people are going to listen to anti-war songs. How many sing along, know the lyrics even of those songs that the government has banned. I think it is among the youth that the majority do not support the war.And for every one of the sane ones you'd get 2-5 of those raised on "memes for russians" VK publics, who were brainwashed by pro-regime influencers and so on. There's a reason why that Potupchik whore said those words about "making princesses from provincial scum" - it was their long-term strategy to build support in zoomers. And it worked.
>>519349922Oh, its maximally right about medvedev, about his foolish.I often communicate(obviously) with my compatriots, and that's why it makes me both laugh and feel sad that a foreign anon on 4chan understands more about my country than they doMedvedev was a real president during his term. He wasn't a dictator, which is why there's a noticeable difference between him and Putin. For example, he supported the US's operation in Libya, while Putin immediately condemned it. However, since Medvedev was the president, Russia did not impose a Veto at the United Nations.
>>519350248lol u dumbyou do realize that medvedev was just jewtins placeholder yes?
They hacked the entirety of Russian messenger service that the government demands must be installed on all phones. They got EVERYTHING. https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1979894593836699753
>>519349911Dugin dementia.
>>519349911Dugin visited Carcosa
>>519350348ofc medvedev was just placeholder. All russians understand this. But during his term, he could make decisions. So he wasn't just a puppet controlled by putin, as many people think.
Why are Russian supporters are so dysgenic? Just saw a short, long-haired guy who looked like a tranny with desert camo pants, Rusich patch and a Wagner cap. Lmao.
>>519350665I see - I can't tell how his presidency was honestly - I wasn't there to live under it.I guess we're on the same page that he never had any "real" power.who knows, maybe he's playing the madmen so he isn't perceived as threat by jewtin.I wouldn't wish the guy on my worst enemy though lol - imagine being led by a vatnigger
>>519349756>if you only knew how yellow things really are
>>519350668call the cops on himsay you spotted a wagner mercenary inside finland
>>519350838>not if you only knew how palid things really are NGMI
Trump is a moronhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/20/trump-zelenskyy-ukraine-donbas-region-end-russia-invasion
MiG-31K in the air, possibility of cringeall missile launch
>>519351044>Trump is a moronAnd water is wet
>>519349911He is delving into the old Gods to try to ressurrect his daughter.
>>519350665You seem like a balance Russian. I have worked with various dictatorships, they usually work with what I call silos under them. These would be something like the army, secret services, major companies, mafias and so on. These in turn are controlled by different familial clans. Is Russia also like this or is it all FSB all the the time? If so who do you see taking over after Putin?
>>519351113True. I guess this was to be completely expected. When he said only a few weeks ago that Ukraine could retake all its land, I should have realised that he would pivot back to a pro-Putin position sooner or later.Everyone has figured out that Trump is easily influenced: Putin himself has clearly figured this out, which is why he had that phone call with Trump. Trump is also influenced by idiots in his administration, like JD Vance, Pete Hegseth, Stephen Miller, etc.
nafosisters, is russia seriously going to keep syria as a protectorate? i thought our brave mujahadeen defeated them there.........
>>519351233Honestly, after their meeting in Hungary, if Putin doesn't make some actual concessions and makes Trump look like a fool (again), Trump will be back to malding on the internet. And nothing will change.
>>519351244>protectorateAs the name implies, to have a protectorate, you need to be able to defend it lmao.
>>519351244Знaeш ли въoбщe кaквo oзнaчaвa пpoтeктopaт, тъп мaнгaл.
>>519351411Уж cyвepeннa дъpжaвa, кoятo нямa coбcтвeнa външнa пoлитикa, и вcъщнocт външнaтa й пoлитикa ce диктyвa oт дpyгa дъpжaвa. Пpимepнo Coц Бългapия и CCCP. Пpимepнo Acaдcкa Cиpия и Пyтинcкa Pycия. Пpимepнo, кaктo ce нaмeквa в пocтa ми, Шapaacкa Cиpия и Пyтинcкa Pycия.Aкo пaк въpнaт pycкитe бaзи, и дaжe изгoнят иpaнцитe, тoвa щe ги нaпpaви пoвeчe пoдвлacтни, нe пo-мaлкo, oт Acaд.
>>519351126No, the FSB doesn't control everything in Russia. Russia has a personalist dictatorship. It means that everything is tied to one person, Putin. There are clans under him, and he has done everything to divide these clans (hence the Federal Security Service and the Russian National Guard, which were created under his leadership). These clans can conflict with each other until the leader intervenes (for example, the conflict between Prigozhin and Shoigu, which led to a rebellion). That is, clans like various security forces and oligarch associations have pieces of power, but they are all unconditionally subordinate to Putin.I don't know who will come after him. After him, there will be a power struggle among the elites. For example, now, the larger oligarchs like the Rotenberg family are eating up the smaller fish and taking away their property, while the larger security forces like Krasnov are trying to imprison anyone they don't like. They are building up their power. After Putin, there will be a power struggle among the elites, which is already happening, but not on such a large scale. It is possible that the confrontation will escalate under Putin's rule (again, the example of Prigozhin is illustrative. Putin did not get involved in a public conflict for three months until it led to a rebellion). Which of these clans - the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Security Service, or some oligarchs, or a coalition of some with others - will be in power after Putin is unknown. But it is clear that one of them will be. Depending on who takes this power, the country will follow the path of partial liberalization (if the majority are entrepreneurs) or even more tightening of the screws (if the power is usurped by the security forces)
>>519351505Pycкaтa бaзa, в eдинcтвeнo чиcлo, в Tapтyc. Eднo тъпo пpиcтaнищe, зa кoeтo Pycнaцитe плaщaт милиoни нa гoдинa зa нaeм и ce пpecтpyвaт чe имaт глoбaлнo влияниe.
>>519351505Russia have no resources for support russian influences in the middle east. Russia even lost Azerbaijan, which is located right on its borders
>>519351597>>519351651The Qatari-Europe gas pipeline, or potential Iran-Europe gas pipelines, which HAVE to pass through Syria, will never be started if Russia is in Syria.
>>519351311Yeah fair point. If both sides keep fighting, which they probably will, despite Trump's insistence that they stop fighting, I wonder how Trump will react. Trump might say he's going to withdraw all support for Ukraine, including any weapons sales to Ukraine. Then I guess Europe will have to decide if it keeps backing Ukraine, if it increases its support for Ukraine, etc.
>>519351233He's not easily influenced, he always sides with bullies and corrupt autocrats, the rest is words that the press immediately swallows and praises him for. He was never ever going to help Ukraine.
>>519349911He longs for the suicide booths
>>519351702And you made this connection between the 2 how? What does a Russian base that could be removed tomorrow have to do with a gas pipeline that will be worth millions of profits for Syria. Money which it desperately needs now.
>>519351311And then Trump will talk to Ursula and be mad at her. And then he will talk to Zelensky and be mad at him.Trump is only happy talking to monarchs, literal or figurative. Putin is more of a monarchical type than Zelensky, he's always going to have a better relationship with Trump, who is a typical Nietzschen slave-master morality type. He's the negro that doesn't feel free until he has a white wife, like the white man has. He wants to be recognized by other monarchs, as a monarch himself. Putin can sell him that. Zelensky can't.So Trump is a lost cause, I don't know why even appeal to him. Either go around him, or double down on European separatism from USA, and on the EU as a military alliance.
>>519351311What about tomahawks?
>>519351244No, they're just appeasing it somewhat because they can't pick that fight and don't want sanctions removal vetoed. Russia also will never back anyone against Israel so they are useless when you don't need them to bomb cities for you.
>>519351702The pipeline will happen because Syria actually wants money and is courting all the Arab countries with decent success. No one will care what Russia wants there.
>>519351738Only reason I am not worried is I know Putin will NEVER back down on ANY of his demands, as he has demostrated time and time again. He will keep doubling down and he will probably demand even more than he did last time.Only way for Trump to agree is if Putin only gets to keep Donbass, Luhansk and Crimea (up to the current point) and returns everything else. But he will never do that, so nothing will change.
>>519351847Oh for sure the shaky ruler of Syria will approve of a long term project that is opposed by the literal army stationed in his country. FOR SURE this will happen, and FOOOOOOOR SUUUUUUREEEEEE it won't lead to little polite green men and black flag ISIS stuff.I am absolutely convinced that 100000% its not an issue for a goverment to do anti-russian activities while having a russian army in the country. Nothing bad will happen, and you are very intelligent.
>>519347255It's not useless. Just keep safe, bro. If no one does anything, Russia is only going to deteriorate into irrelevance and poverty. I'm not going to preach what you should be doing; but, undoubtedly - there is going to be an event horizon, where your action can bring the fruit, to make Russia normal, warm country. Of course it will be dangerous. Your choice.
>>519351860I don't think Tomahawks were ever seriously considered, because of logistic reasons (it is a naval missile at the end of the day). It's like the Russian Sarmat, it is only used to scare people.I think they wanted another meeting and tried to scare Putin with it (which seems to have worked).
>>519351987>literal army>100 Russian military personnel
>>519351987>literal armyWho feeds them now? Are russia bringing supplies or they all eat each other in the basements?
>>519351811Sometimes he can be shifted into saying things that he doesn't normally say, but yeah I guess ultimately he usually ends up siding with autocrats.>>519351852>So Trump is a lost cause, I don't know why even appeal to him. Either go around him, or double down on European separatism from USA, and on the EU as a military alliance.I hope Europe can become better and stronger over the coming years, and yes Europe probably needs to be less reliant on the USA, since the USA only cares about itself currently.Each European nation by itself is obviously pretty small in a global context. Germany has the biggest economy in Europe (Russia isn't European) but even they are not on the scale of the world superpowers. Europe together can be powerful though.>>519351962Yeah Putin would probably only change his position if he absolutely has to, e.g. if the Russian military starts getting pushed back.
>>519351962Russia's position in these negotiations seems to be a demand for Ukraine's surrender. Over and over again. The war has turned into a stalemate, and it seems that Putin believes that Ukraine will run out of resources before Russia, causing the front to crumble. However, it is unclear how realistic this is.Regardless, any negotiations with Putin will not yield any results. The only time Russia's position has slightly changed was during Ukraine's successful counteroffensive in the summer of 2022. I don't think there's any chance of "winning peacefully" or even just resolving the conflict with words as long as Putin is in charge of Russia and he thinks he's winning.
>>519352104>>519352165Kremlin siad 100k russians have fought in Syria, and before the withdrawals in 2024 there were 10k russians in Syria.I don't know now, with the Vagner faggotry and the general retrival of all troops to fight in Ukraine, but I doubt its 100 dudes left.
>>519352272Those were fighters, that have long ago gone home. The Tartus military base had a few hundred people as staff at it's peak.
>>519352272Where did the 100k info come from? It seems like an exaggeration, considering that there were only 500 casualties in Syria
>>519352268Why Russia isnt Europe?
Found pics which I did and posted on 4chan being reposted on RU 2ch - the toppest of keks
>>519352734What kind of pics?
>>519352782The monument to fallen soldiers with highlighted losses per war and numbers and such
>>519352734>RU 2chHow's the general mood there these days? Always love to hear about them seething at the absolute state of their shithole.
>>519352643I guess when I say "Europe" in that post I mean the European countries which are allies, which is basically all of Europe but not Russia or Belarus (maybe Serbia too). I might consider those countries as European if they were friendly towards Europe, which would start with Russia withdrawing its invasion of Ukraine.Russia itself seems to not consider itself European any more. There's a location in Moscow which was called Europe Square and it had European flags flying - pic related. In the last few years they took down the flags and renamed the place to Eurasia Square.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia_Square
>In addition to Trump refusing to provide Ukraine with Tomahawk missiles at the meeting with Zelensky, he also spoke about security guarantees for both Kyiv and Moscow. These comments caused bewilderment among the Ukrainian delegation.haha Trump the Russian agent
>>519352877Kind of funny actually. Much better than the shills we have here.
>>519352877It's censored to shit, AFAIK the posting rates are 20-30x less than they were before in their /po/ board for example. Some other thematic boards, such as one about home improvements and building shit, also got decimated in terms of activity btw. Info which it too unpleasant gets deleted instantly. Even more basic shit gets swamped by shills or butthurt "patriots", with them going to the moderation board and whining why this and this isn't deleted yet and so on. There is "opposing activity", but it's very spread out and small. Shills also do attacks on any alternative boards in russian language, since they can't deal with a non-controlled discussion platform existing.
>>519353066lmao
>>519352643Because 80% of its landmass is in Asia
>>519353031>>519353031A, ok.With this square it is totally roflThis square is located at the Kievskaya metro station. We are waiting for the station to be renamed as well. In Russian history textbooks, Kievan Rus has already been renamed to simply Rus. However, the station has been forgotten. They are not doing their job well!
>>519353066
>>519353070Abu, the owner of 2ch, was one of those who wrote a public denunciation of the 18-year-old girl Naoko, who was mentioned above (the one who was imprisoned for singing the wrong songs).After learning this, I went to 2ch and asked the anons how they were doing when the owner of the site publicly called for the schoolgirl to be imprisoned for her dissent. I was banned.
>>519353296Interesting. Anyway, I suppose in an ideal world, Russia and Belarus would be democratic countries who would be good friendly neighbours of the rest of Europe. Then I would consider both countries to be European. I hope pro-democracy politicians in both Russia and Belarus succeed (e.g. Vladimir Kara-Murza in Russia and Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya in Belarus). But I guess there's not much they can do right now.
>>519353066>every 10th marriage in Russia is faggots Gay west BTFO sanctions are not working
>>519353460Sadly that won't happen for some time, and Kara-Murza won't be the new leader. Because he thinks that he will win in some future free elections. Entire liberal opossition is a nothingburger mixed with litteral fsb agents. Only way for them to get power and fix russia is getting it through violance, sadly.
>>519353415>Abu, the owner of 2ch, was one of those who wrote a public denunciation of the 18-year-old girl NaokoI know. He's one of the pro-regime influencer faggots which I mentioned above. Similarly to that Varlamov faggot, who ate from the regime's hand and for a decade spoofed the minds of youngsters with the "urbanism" shit, so that they'd be worried about bicycle lanes instead of actual politics, while the regime built itself up. Not a surprise that both of them are childhood friends are from the same rooster roster of regime shills.
>>519353460Russia will never move away kleptocratic due to how they generate revenue. Belarus has hope if they break out of Russian influence.
>>519353415Is the song even good?
>>519353539every time I come in here, you fags are talking about some irrelevant shit that has nothing to do with the ass whooping ukraine is taking.
>>519353594It can't because of how russian government is build, corruption is the glue holding entire country together.
>>519353539Varlamov is now speaking out against the war and has been recognized "Инoaгeтнoм"
>>519353596which song are you asking about?
>>519353739Well, songs. Whatever got the girl in jail.
Why do rusniggers die for their billionaire kike upperclass?
>>519353610War in Ukraine it too boring, we have a new topic. Also Israel again turns Coprolestine into pile of rubbish.
>>519353772the guy that produces vodka, is a jew too, so jews poisons both the mind and the body of russians>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Shefler
>>519353610I never would have thought that I would write this to Anon under the American flag.In three and a half years, Russia has not been able to take even the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. According to official data alone, Russia has 200k losses.This war is destroying both our countries. Yes, Russian cities do not lie in ruins, unlike Mariupol. But the consequences for Russia are just as disastrous, if not worse.
>>519353893That is local shizo zutt slut Mearhslomo, he is a russian on vpn, or some brown mystery meat creature
>>519353066Nice stats, but skips the part where women can marry a man multiple times
>>519353659Doesn't mean shit. Half of those "foreign agents" are just FSB plants in the community. Russia's main "opposition media" was literally owned by Gazprom for decades, until they deemed it not needed anymore. You need to stop being triggered by those aliases and brands the regime puts on things and instead start viewing things for what they truly are. Same thing with Durov and Telegram, he branded himself as a anti-regime freedom fighter, an exiled young tech guru, while in reality he made the biggest personal data system in post-USSR and handed it on the silver platter to the regime. And then developed the local messenger, branding it as secure and private, yet which isn't using encryption by default and forces users to leak their phone numbers. And his exile was proven to be false, with him routinely visiting russia. His chief executives visit state hosted events. The main development office literally stayed in the same building in St. Pidorsburg until like 2018 or 2020 lmao. It's literally just smoke and mirrors.
>>519353460I believe that such a time will come.
Glory to UkraineTZD
>>519353960Technically it's a specific state in time, and the woman has to first divorce one ivan to marry another, so that's not it.
>>519353767Well, among the songs she sang, there are some that I like and some that I don't like. All of these songs have a beautiful message that celebrates life and condemns murder and war.It's important to note that these songs were written by artists who openly opposed the war and left Russia. This is a form of protest in a country where protest is illegal. She sang the songs of those who shared her beliefs. For this, she is currently imprisoned.In other words, she's in prison not for her songs, but for her beliefs, which she demonstrated through those songs.
>>519354072I think it is because, some of men in stats are not ivans but abdulahas and they are married to non russian citizens
>>519354002>Glory to Ukrainethere is no glory for ukraine to have.
>>519354215Maybe, but we know that a ton of kids in russia are brought up by same-sex families, consisting of a mother and grandma
>>519354304yes, but statistics are on marrige not on single mother households
>>519351092did the possibility manifest itself?
>>519354241There's lots of dead ziggers. That's glorious
>>519353995I hope so too. Russia has great cultural capital than it can leverage to be one of the leaders of Europe. It just needs to learn that soft power is cheaper and more profitable than imperialism. And also that rampant corruption gradually destroys any high functioning modern society. Thanks for your earlier reply btw
>>519354356Didn't hear anything about an actual launch
>>519354440>Russia has great cultural capitalDoes it though? Gulaghomo is the actual culture.
>>519351233>trump says>peskov says>putin says>lavrov says>xi jinping saysinto the trash it goes. The hot air coming out of their mouths is only white noise meant to confuse you. All that matter is what they do. Sooner you accept this the less shit like agent orange heel turns bothers you
>>519354440Russia dosen't have enough young people to have a revolt, what is more possible is that country will become something like an african failed state, with local warlords, lose allience and unwritten laws, while the infrastructure built by the ussr detoriates, in turn leading to deindustrialization and technological degradation (russian cb thinks the same btw), cementing russia as a chinese vassal/lapdog.
>>519354440Cute mishka!>Russia has great cultural capitalHad.
>>519353893you must be new here. that is a glavset propaganda bot. Either scripted or biobot. does not matter. They use VPNs and most of the time default to american flags. Its vatniks but also pajeets and their mutant like bangladeshi. The biobots tend to work in shifts and rotate out ever 12 hours or so
>>519354600Gulaghomo is unfortunately a consequence of centuries of one of the most oppressive dictatorships know to mankind. But this is the same culture that gave us great literature, music and advances in science. We should not throw the baby away with the bathwater.The ziggers, churkas and FSB monkeys... That's a matter for TZD.
>>519348870This an interesting thread. I have nothing useful to add on the broad themes but it's enlightening to read.>However, they do notice the rising taxes, the insane interest rates on loans, and the overall impoverishment of the nationIs there a black market to bypass the government? Like taking loans in Chinese Yuan or making payments with cryptocurrency?I remember reading that there is an active black market for petrol in Crimea now where it sells for 200 rubles per litre due to the shortages. It's plausible that whatever mechanism they used to dodge the taxman and police could be extended in Russia to avoid paying taxes to the government.General civil disobedience doesn't need to involve protests, violence or loud voices. It can be as simple as not paying taxes.
good morning, Orenburg Gas Processing Plant
>>519353460Imagine a world where vatnikstan was actually Russia, a normal functioning nation state with normal european people. The amount of empty land they have with their resources alone would give them generational wealth making places like Norway look like poor euro countries. They could actually be at least a genuine great european power instead of the pretender they are. For us here instead of seeking patronage and help of deep westerners like west euros or americans, safely tucked away behind seven seas and mountains, mutually beneficial cooperation and even alliance with Russia would be a realistic option
>>519354943>I remember reading that there is an active black market for petrol in Crimea now where it sells for 200 rubles per litre due to the shortages. It's plausible that whatever mechanism they used to dodge the taxman and police could be extended in Russia to avoid paying taxes to the government.>General civil disobedience doesn't need to involve protests, violence or loud voices. It can be as simple as not paying taxes.Current pm of russia, worked as the head of russian taxation agency and made the system really hard to circumnavigate, the government is also expanding the honest mark system, so it is harder to buy and sell goods in bulk outside of the tax systemthere is black market, even arms black market you can even buy an rpg now, but most business owners would rather close their business put their money into a bank or emigrate
>>519354738>Russia dosen't have enough young people to have a revoltSame hererussia's fate is like ours young ppl will leave shitskins will multiply and oligarchs will just tardrangle em while they see profit then fuck off themselves then whatever is left will re-write history to say they were the original bulgars or whatever a slow quite death
>>519354743My young children watch Masha and the Bear. And look at the influence of russian expats around the world. >>519354738There is hope for all of us. The last time Europe will have had such a population decline was during the black death. This led to the Renaissance and European global hegemony. Our own plague is Materialism and its offspring of Feminism and Socialism. We'll see if we can overcome them.
>>519336992>they're in their own thread having actual discussionsnow that's fucking funny.
>>519354577ty.>>519354440>cultural capital than it can leverage to be one of the leaders of Europei'm not sure i'd identify the current leaders of the EU / Europe to be so because of *cultural* capital, seems to mostly be just competently running your nation and trade.
>>519354943Russian government is less dependent on its citizens than democracies, as it generates revenue primarily through natural resources and bypassing the tax isn't that much of hit compared to if this happened in Britain
>>519353536Kasparov predicts a politburo, rule by committee, after putin. Since, like Stalin, the ruling cabal will only come to the conclusion that a singular absolutist emperor/"president"/premiere/tzar/khan is destructive to their own stability. Monke has single handedly managed to destroy 70 years of post WW2 soviet hardware build up and alienate the best clients russia will ever have
>>519354738history shows puccia does not stay fractured for long. its like the chang empires. Warlords are only temporary state between top dogs fighting who will be the next emperor Come to think of it only empire I can recall that stayed fractured for a long time before consolidation was Japan. A very unique case due to geography alone as it makes difficult for outside bigger invaders to take advantage of flux state. Russia, with its wide, wwwwiiiiidddeee open humongous land borders is the direct opposite
>>519354738>Russia dosen't have enough cohesion and solidarity to have a revoltFixed that for you. Protests here weren't strictly a young thing. It was the 30+ and even 50+ y.o. people having solidarity with the youngsters against the government.
i don't care for the russian armed forces
>>519355216>My young children watch Masha and the Bear.Lol? What the fucking current state of the modern western multiplication if your children watch that meiocre shit? All niggers? For me it were turtles ninjas and shieet. Based. Michelangelo-boi here.
>>519355392>history shows puccia does not stay fractured for long. its like the chang empires. Warlords are only temporary state between top dogs fighting who will be the next emperorI don't think so, russia has not enough people for such large terriotryAnd its expansion in the past was possible thanks to the number of enslaved serfs and brutality of the tsars towards their slaves
>>519355474>Fixed that for you. Protests here weren't strictly a young thing. It was the 30+ and even 50+ y.o. people having solidarity with the youngsters against the government.No amount of young people also helps, a lot actually, that is one of the reasons why middle east is unstable together with african countries, too many young people that have nothing to lose and a lot to gain from overthrowing the current regime
>>519354943Russia is building out a comprehensive digital gulag, good luck dodging things
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>>519355246I'll try to present this differently. Culture is more of a virtuous circle. Lets say you are a country with a reputation of being fair in your dealings with others. This would make other countries trust that their agreements with you would be followed. Soon they would ask you to arbiter their differences and your own lawyers would benefit. Another example would be a country with excellence in precision manufacturing. A country like this would also a reputation that if you were a foreign investor willing to start a new factory it would be attractive to do so over there due to their reputation.
>>519355778by the same people that created Armata and Baikal planebake friends
>>519355778We just copy what Britbongland did, anon. We have the same masters after all.
>>519355639That's true, which is arguably one of the reason why russian siphons youngsters from places like Tajikistan into russia, it's literally to decrease potential instability of Tajikistan,
>>519355857GoyUslugi actually exist and work, unlike material things. It's easier to have 100-500 IT faggots make another element of the gulag instead of having 50,000 pidors work in UralGovnoZavod.
>>519355571 from what I know the "major" gains were all in Siberia. That had effectively no organized resistance and consists of hunter-gatherers tribes barely out of the stone age. Very easy to attack and slaughter. Central asia was always a giant empty steppe open to anybody with mobility and superior firepower Caucasus was famous for its bloody wars with Ottomans over it. Pushing westward was also a centuries long hard grind fighting poles/lithuanians, teutonic-german Livonia (latvia/estonia), Sweden and god knows what else further south That said all mentioned are colonial expansions, not the core. The core of the empire seems to be everything around the Volga river valley down southwards to the pre-Caucasus, eastwards up to the Ural mountains and westwards towards modern day belarus and ukraine borders. This is where the bulk of the last civil war took place and this is where warlords would be fighting over the throne of Muscovia Even if everybody else in the periphery, like Siberia, falls apart as changs snatch it away in that way the similarities with chang empire are there as they too have a imperial core (the big bulge on the coast) with colonial expansion surrounding it (outer mongolia, xinjang, tibet, manchuria etc). The core always contains the warlords duking it out to become the next emperor, then start expanding once the throne is secure
>>519355952yes, but the same GoiSlugi is filled with holes and is being kept together by glueDon't forget about the infrastructure needed to run a digital gulag, you need people to build and maintain the physical side of things, so someone should work at datacenters, someone should work at a powerplant, someone should lay optic cabels, and etc.Where will russia get all those people from ? bangladesh ?
>>519355506Watching that TMNT made you more susceptible to american culture. This is how they make you want Iphones, Levis and hamburgers. That's what cultural hegemony is. If other countries want to live like you, well they have just the products to sell you.
>>519356079russia can no longer expand, modern warfare requires many highly skilled and educated engineers and scientists, right now monke is running the cult of anti-intellectualism and cutting budget on education, replacing it with patriotic stuff like how to kys effectivly with a granade so no, the time of meat waves to expand the border is ended
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>>519355952>UralGovnoZavodKEK
dont let the pidor bake you niggers
1pbtid zutted nigger, fuck offLazy hohol will bake.
>>519356094>Don't forget about the infrastructure needed to run a digital gulag, you need people to build and maintain the physical side of things, so someone should work at datacenters, someone should work at a powerplant, someone should lay optic cabels, and etc.>Where will russia get all those people from ? bangladesh ?They unironically can import pajeets for that
>>519356114>This is how they make you want Iphones, Levis and hamburgers.Nah, people want them because they are good
Fucking ladies Fine faggot I'll bake
>>519351987You are retarded, sorry. Also, no agreemenz on the bases has been made anyways, even after Putin licked Syrian ass like a lollipop.
>>519356383they can't LOL
>>519356478>>519356478>>519356478>>519356478>>519356478BAKED
>>519345737and trannies loooooots of trannies