Why do leftists hate AI so much?
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>>519339424Because for years they smuggly claimed that art is a left, liberal thing and "thr uncreative right" can't do it. Also when all the blue collar jobs got take over by machines, they would proudly say that THEIR job as an artist would never be taken overSo basically it's karma and eternal seething
>>519339562>Countries where kikes do their hardest to slave away the masses are ok with itYou don't say
>>519339741What do you mean? The west hate it?
>>519339424They don't hate AI, they hate the companies behind them that took copyrighted material to train their models without paying any fees, asking for consent. "Why x hates ai?" is techbuddy strawman to hide the fact that there is big corporation that is funded by tax payer money and pyramid scheme investments, that are creating a financial bubble. And they are selling you inferior product on subscription. I dont mind ai art, if its good, it's good, but most of the time it's not, and it's usually only good when it's 1girl, looking at viewer and straight-on. Try something more complicated and the model breaks. There is more information in an illustration that techbros can fathom , and that doesnt mean they are stupid, it's just not their field of expertise. Any artist who actually grinds forms, values and composition on twitter can spot the non-human errors ai makes. Also let not forget the ai chatbots. When it comes to creative writing, the models very clearly platoed.Pic is my ai "art".
>>519339562Japan
>>519339741English. It's the English speaking places. Europe mainland is rational. Chinese would eat any slop. Japanese get unlimited fanart of futa Goldship.
People who like AI are generally not capable of doing anything on their own, funnily enough they will claim the rendered AI pics as their hard work sometimes>Huhh it’s my prompt don’t steal it Many such cases It’s saddening that AI will flood all the medias in a couple of years, everyone will hate it and look back at the past internet as a long forgotten relic of humanity’s technological peak
And I will add something, rightoids are known to suck at Art for whatever reasonAnd I’m using Art in a board thematic that includes literature, cinema, and whateverSo it all makes sense to see the right winged techbros act as if they won a battle, they technically did now but at what cost ?
>>519339424they probably wouldn't if AI companies weren't so slimey when going about training their models with stolen data and tech pajeets weren't such insufferable hypocrites. in fact, when image generation was taking off my sister who's a big leftie was excited because she thought she could train her own model on her own illustrations for inspiration or something but she quickly learned that she would need data center levels of hardware, quite literally hundreds of thousands of illustrations to be fed into a model for it not to output complete dogshit, and how everything (at the time) was a total black box.
>>519339562Asians generally have severe deficiencies in creative thinking and innovation, so a computer taht just repeats what you put in by rote is innately sympathetic for them. White people can easily see the numerous flaws and rigid, limitations.
>>519339424Basically leftist types are hypnotized with a false light from the Jewish magic lamp that is Hollywood, Disney, Nintendo, etc.Ai generated content instinctively lets them know that their days of mind control is over, and that the right controls the magic lamp now. Basically with the power of Ai generating art the power lies completely in the hands of 4channers and the left can't stand it.
>>519343709>she thought she could train her own model on her own illustrations for inspiration or something butwhile most models are pretty dogshit atm, making a lora for her wouldn't be a bad idea.
>>519339424Ai is for niggers and shitskins
>>519339424With AI the power to create new images that leaves less for people to imagine and spread misinformation will be taken out of control of those who have the skills to make the media.
>>519342210Thats a pretty dumb generalization and doesn't actually hold water. The fact it sounds like some petty shit someone who treats politics like sportsball would say should be your first hint
>>519344257>Indonesia, Kenya, India
>>519339424nobody likes AI art you fucking idiot. It's only useful to make stupid images or porn that nobody cares to make. Go ahead and look at the reception AI shows have had, they all got shit on and everyone pointed and laughed and moved on.Why are cuckservatives like this?
>>519339424.You all know what happened to Grok, Grok went Far Right, and is better than Hitler could have ever been.
>>519339741so true, fellow white right wing chad!
>>519344419grok only went far right whenever elon deliberately tampered with it "to make it more objective" but he gave up after "woke grok" kept coming back on its own after a week or two.
>>519344358It’s factual in France, about 85% of the most popular, and skilled, moviemakers, writers, musicians, painters of the past two centuries were left-leaningAnd I’m sure you will find similarities in other European countries
I have always associated laziness and theft with brown people.I can very easily envision some brown momkey typing out poorly worded prompts in his best english, getting excited as his ancient computer heats to 160c and generates an image that has so many obvious flaws that it's not even funny. To him it's wonderful and magic. A primitive first discoving fire. But to everyone else it's obvious how fake it is, how boring and pointless it is to let a machine make something rather than making it yourself. Generative Ai is a tool that supports nigger behavior.
>>519344510That's a lie. He tampered with it to make it less anti semitic, and people kept working to make it Hitler. Now it is a neutered zogbot
>>519339741>>519341585>English. It's the English.You dropped your (((English))).
>>519344646Did you know 56% of statistics are made up on the spot?Additionally did you know that its factual in America 85% of left leaning filmmakers put some kind of gay, rape, manhating, transgender faggotry in their tv shows?
>>519344799>(((Left leaning American filmmakers))) Shocking
>>519344799yes, I also know that 100% of your right leaning politicians rape kids for jewish home video
>>519341220So when an artist sees another artists work and uses it as inspiration, they suppose to pay that artist? When authors who read books and it makes them become better authors, they suppose to pay them? Every fucking artist learns from other artists!
>>519344742well, that too. but he has publicly stated how he would be fixing grok after it said things he didn't like for being woke too.
>>519342210>are known to suck at Art for whatever reasonRight wing artists get blacklisted so they keep their heads down and don't speak about their views. This has been happening for a long time. Off the top of my head look at someone like Martin O'Donnell. He's an extremely talented composer but he was blacklisted from the games industry for being an open republican.
Ai has a real chance to be the opposite gender??
>>519344904You don't know how bad its gotten. Over there "left leaning" probably means they show sex between two straight people who do drugs or some other dumb soft libshit pazazz >>519344937>Implying the left ones dont
>>519344961Humans create art for other humans to be spiritually and emotionally enriched, not for Jewish corporations and Indians to steal to make money off of you fucking nigger
>>519344961>So when an artist sees another artists work and uses it as inspiration, they suppose to pay that artist? When authors who read books and it makes them become better authors, they suppose to pay themuhhh yeswhen leone "got inspired by" kurosawa, he had to pay him, dumas had to prove his ghost writers weren't doing the bulk of the work in court, etcyou don't get to just edit someone else's work and call it your own in civilized society
>>519339424>destroying the environment so people can have some visualslop and ask the most stupid questions everyeah why would anyone hate it??
>>519341220I honestly don't understand this narrative of "you have to pay me to study my material". You guys just say it as a matter of fact, but I don't see it as fact at all. It's perfectly debatable whether anybody owes you money to just study and observe things.This is like that old jew story "The Stolen Smell". Maybe you should be compensated with an AI generated image of money.
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AI art and video generation gets alot of hate currently, but I believe renaissance artists like da Vinci would have been mystified by it and considered it an amazing advancement that would only take his art to the next level. You can still be a fucking artist, just use the new tech to broaden your horizons. A true artist will likely come in touch with apart of their art that they wouldn’t have discovered otherwise. It’s all fucking bullshit really, like everything else NPCs complain about. I’d be more worried about AI controlling weapon systems and the job market as a whole before I’d even consider complaining about art.
>>519345253michelangelo's on record calling oil paint a medium for women and brainlets because it was too forgiving and laughed at da vinci for being a shitter who can't even sculpt a horseda vinci in turn lambasted in his journal a certain artist whose drawings of humans look like sacks of walnutsyou don't know shit about the things you're imagining, retard
>>519345076Biden isn't left wing. But he is a pedophile. So is bill clinton.
>>519345572Idc that biden called blacks "niggers" in the 90s, that man was a democrat for 56 years and destroyed our country while puppeteered by jewish leftist handlers. Don't give me that bullshit
>>519345416Woah stand back boys, we have a real intellectual on our hands. I never claimed to be a fucking expert asshole. Neither you or I know how the masters would react to AI and speculation doesn’t change the butt hurt I feel imitating from your comment. Discussion should always be encouraged regardless of personal knowledge. You could have used your comment to educate me, but all you’ve done is proven you’re a short sighted fool to the autistic community. A job well done sir, I’m sure you’ll get your cock sucked throughly.
>>519339424>another AI bro got owned on reddit and came to sulk on /pol/many such cases
>>519345689>Idc that biden called blacks "niggers" in the 90sIs doing this a "right wing" thing? Is that your understanding of politics? >democratNot left wing. When you look at America in a vacuum? Sure. But speaking realistically, we've never had a politician go further left than "center right" where policy is concerned.
>>519345835>heh eckshoolly I didn't say I'm not a drooling retarddon't give opinions on historical matters you have zero familiarity with, ranjeet
>>519341317Japan is unimpressed
>>519345934Your response is lacking, can you do no better? I am far from impressed! Show us your glorious mind! Please, you’re doing so well!
>>519345835>I never claimed to be a fucking expert asshole.Then don't talk about it, retard. Its funny how you feel so impassioned to say that its something "npcs complain about" then turn right back around and admit you're a clueless NPC. >Discussion should always be encouraged regardless of personal knowledge.Beep boop
>>519346048>effete south asian attempt at provoking an emotional reaction in the face of demonstrated inferiority lol
>>519345898Is this pajeet ragebait? You understand what an abortion is yes and why that isn't right wing?
>>519345154Funny you say that since Kurosawa ripped off Dashiell Hammett‘s Red Harvest when made Yojimbo
>>519345898>>519345572Republicans are center-left.Every leftist needs to be killed.
>>519339424How come the woman in the bottom panel has such a protruberant butt?
>>519344257and trannies
>>519339424Why do older women hate younger women so much?
>>519346179>You understand what an abortion is yes and why that isn't right wing?Abortion, when done right, would be useful for eugenics and controlling the populations of undesirable people. It's only right wing because this is what they've decided the "left" and "right" parties should be split on. Same case for gun control. Remember, the biggest gun control laws were passed in 1989 (under George H.W bush, a republican) and 94 (bill clinton). It's much more grey than you'd imagine.
>>519339424Because now I anyone can make funny seethe generators like picrel with the click of a mouse
The jeets are now AI generating answers. Amazing. No more (You)s from me Jeet
>>519346179abortion isnt considered an issue in europe, everyone wants it legal here right or left
>>519346179>mamdaniHe's definitely one of the most left leaning candidates I've ever seen gain relevancy. Him, Bernie, and AOC (to a much lesser degree, she's just woke) represent the push for a "labor party" reform of the democrats to cater towards younger generations. I'd be interested to see what these "Democratic socialists" do if they're given meaningful power. Bernie didn't do shit.
leftists tend to be smarter so no wonder we hate ai crap which is for lazy stupid people
>>519339562holy shit why did they put the fucking geographical zones in this chart, it makes it fucking incomprehensible>chile in europesack the retard who made this
>>519346864You're a retard. Go ahead, tell me why being anti abortion is a uniquely right wing issue?
its trash thats trained by trash youre just spiritually indian and used to living in a giant trashpile. creating something human with a soul takes years of practice and refinement but youre incapable of putting any kind of effort into anything of the sort
>>519347682https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Davenport>Davenport believed that the biological differences between the races justified a strict immigration policy, and that people of races deemed “undesirable” should not be allowed into the country.>Domestically, he also supported the prevention of "negative eugenics" through sterilization and sexual segregation of people who were considered genetically inferior.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_H._Laughlin>Laughlin asserted that various forms of "degeneracy" were innate to certain racial groups of recent immigrants by looking at populations in asylums and homes for the disabled.>Laughlin provided extensive statistical testimony to the United States Congress in support of the Johnson-Reed Immigration Act of 1924. Part of his testimony dealt with "excessive" insanity among immigrants from southern Europe and eastern Europe.This act created our first official border patrol btw.>When Nazi administrators went on trial for war crimes in Nuremberg after World War II, they attempted to justify the mass sterilizations (over 450,000 in less than a decade) by citing the United States as their inspiration.>The Nazis had claimed American eugenicists inspired and supported Hitler's racial purification laws, and failed to understand the connection between those policies and the eventual genocide of the Holocaust.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Birth_Control_League(This became planned parenthood)Here's one of the founding directors:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothrop_Stoddard>Stoddard wrote several books which advocated eugenics, white supremacy, Nordicism, and scientific racismMargaret Sanger who was the true "founder" of the birth control movement was definitely a progressive for her time, but focused on giving niggers easy access to contraceptives and abortions.
>>519339424>Why do leftists hate AI so much?Do they? Lefties love AI here.
>>519339562Doesn't this say that except the Anglos, Euros don't really care either way? While some Asians are both excited and nervous (SIngapore)?Weird.
>>519339424THIS IT'S NOT THE ARTS BENCHOD
>>519339424I can't stand luddites either.
>>519339562>>519344257Correct. An anons feeling about AI tells you how brown they are with surprising accuracy.
>>519341220Artists always said "good artists borrow, great artists steal". Why is it okay for a human to do it but not a machine?
>>519341220Copyright laws shouldn't exist
>>519339643Yeah I can't stand these people. I've got an boomer relative a former teacher. "Literally that's not art". Meanwhile same guys displayed literal pen doodles as "modern amateur art".They're logically inconsistent.
>>519339424Because AI is coming for their jobs and they're afraid
AI is literally and unironicly jews stealing creativity from whites.Look up the most used prompots for fantasy pictures:Most of them are european.Look who defends AI the most:Jews and chinks
>>519351610Fun fact, AI is literally just the jews trying to replicate a White brain for when they've genocided us and find out there will never be new inventions
>>519351610Nah. Jeets are by far the biggest AI zelots. Chinks use it alot but aren't so rabid about singing it's praises, and kikes are split between the zero effort shart on a canvas art fags who love ugliness being but hurt and the ones making all the money off it salivating at the prospect of greater profit margins. AI shilling isnthe sign of the jeet as surely as pooing in the street.
>>519339424Because it devalues art. AI to them is like when they black comic book characters to us, it takes something precious from them. As that they have already blacked Captain America, fuck em and I hope AI art completely replaces humans in the creation of new art.
>>519339424Leftists hate everything. They even hate themselves. It's just that they're forced to pretend to love whatever they think they, as leftists, are supposed to love.The better question is why most artists dislike AI and there's more reasons to that than just shrinking demand.
>>519339562>japan does not careBecause they have seen it 20 years ago no doubt.
>>519339424>Why do leftists hate AI so much?Because it makes far better art than they can. See pic related? The left were doing the same shit back in the 1930's. No-one liked it then, no one likes it now.
>>519341220Because it sucks. The embroidery on her lingerie is shapeless and random, as well as having a generic texture slapped on instead of following her curves. Her pubis has almost no curve or allure, it looks like a Barbie doll, and something is off about the pose and the lighting. It just feels cheap and not very alluring, kind of like how AI can’t make food look truly appetizing.It’s not that it can’t make decent slop, but it lacks sensuality that makes even porn feel truly intimate
>>519354129lol how her eyes roll back into her head for no reason
>>519355109She's just enjoying the human man's touch THAT much.Besides that AI model is Chinese, they probably don't see eyes often.
>>519339424because you psyoped them into thinking their bullshit makework jobs are going to be done by ai, retards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>519339562>Slave mind embraces new masterbig news
>>519339424If you talk to the average leftist they pretty much all imagine themselves someday as being some kind of creative head for a project, whether or not they have talent or even an idea, it's their ideal in the same way /pol/ jacks off to living in a large house on a lake in the middle of nowhere. AI means there are likely to be fewer of those jobs and the threshold for being a professional artist, writer, etc just got higher in the same way that furniture factories eliminated 80% of carpenters.
>>519355024This is actually the only time I've seen someone accurately assess the AIslop problem. Well said anon. This is the perfect description. I don't hate or even mind AI images, but they're the definition of soulless slop. The real issue is the ease of creation which makes it easy to spam it fucking everywhere
>>519341220The anger towards AI is more to do with companies getting away with theft (and other crimes) than it is the AI itself. Weak men; hard times, etc. and times are tough, people are struggling to make ends meet. The anxiety of being replaced by AI or having your works stolen by them is a direct result of poor leadership, which is a result of poor voting habits. Elect bad leaders; bad shit happens. Common sense really.But now the middle-income lot have a grievance to air, suddenly they realise how unreceptive their elected politicians are, and are just now finding out (or caring about) how deeply in bed with those companies their elected representatives are.I've learned to stop giving a shit. The bad shit that keeps on happening is a direct consequence of two great wars that bled Western nations of their bravest and most virtuous men. Things literally cannot get better, and you must accept that.
Kikes hate AI for a reason.
>>519343709Damn, OscarAI invented sunsets!? Holy shit!
>>519344380You seem upset, DeviantArt tranny
>>519339562Wait, Peru is an Asian country?
people talking about art are completely and utterly irrelevant to absolutely everything of meaning
I blame lazy artists gatekeeping to make their money laundering and legit day jobs easier. They destroyed a lot of good talented artists and caused knowledge advanced art forms to die out in several prestigious art schools. Just old advertisements and product packages from 100 years ago look like fine art compared to what replaced it on new products or products that decided to change the picture. People willing to pay artists for something detailed and anatomically accurate have a hard time finding them working for advertising agencies. They have to go to art fares or hunt them down online and pay top dollar for the few who can do what many could only 50 years ago. If someone with money would rather use AI slop, or do it themselves if they are amateur artists you are in serious trouble. There is a big demand for stylized surrealism and very little that an amateur hobbyist can do almost as good, if not as good.>>519351803This.
>>519339424It's a midwit take to think art is about the outcome.Art is about the process. That doesn't mean all process are respectable, or that art for the sake of art is worthwhile. But art can't be created without suffering. And computers do not suffer.
>>519360381For some reason it put the wrong comment I was pointing out was spot on.>>519352202
>>519339424Accurate representation of the French, right down to the little froggy leap
>>519339562But I keep seeing Japs having absolute meltdowns over AI in the art world, even more so than the west.
>>519345154lol man, you know that is not true, 90% of art and literature is derivative and they don't pay shit.
Because a bunch of unemployed leftists pretend that their 'job' is producing terrible artwork commissioned from them by other leftists. Now anyone can produce something much better by entering a prompt and tweaking it a bit. The only 'artists' threatened by AI are those without talent, creativity or originality.
>>519339424Do you really think you deserve praise for buying access to a computer program and typing a sentence?
>>519339562somebody explain this to me: how tf is the USA the most "nervous" country about AI yet supposedly also the biggest ai economy carried by trillion of dollars in investments? i don't know a single person in real life who makes money with ai.
>>519339562Westerners can produce original content on the level that AI reproduces. We're on its level, and a few artists (percentage wise) are above it.Most Asians can't produce art of the quality that AI can reproduce. AI outperforms their peak abilities for nowhere near as much money, which is good for Asian businessmen because they love saving costs on people.
>>519361907Because tech CEOs are deranged and investors keep funding them because they've already sunk billions of dollars and can't see it fail. It's genuinely insane.
>>519361827its funny because none of you people have ever created anything in your entire life and now you go around talking about what is real art and what isnt. absurd.>>519360512art critique is funny people say stuff like this and actually think that sounds intelligent.you know, i have spent weeks on single projects and i would never even get the idea to speak about my work like this as if i am special because i put a lot of effort into something. that is so fucking faggy, i want an awesome result, so that the awesome result can speak for itself.
>>519339562those countries in the orange at the types to use ai exclusively to pass college, then go out into the world and get a job not knowing shit
a technology that turn subhumans to subcreatures?humanity is fucked, i abandoned it. enjoy nothing being real, you'll be happy.
>>519339424It's very good at bullshit jobs; therefore it is a threat to them.
>>519339562Anglos are the most cucked like always.
>>519339424Incredibly amusing how the stunted ai tards are still whining about how unfair skills are and have somehow glossed over nvidia, oracle, and openai creating the mother of all financial bubbles.
>>519339424why are you thinking in terms of left and right, inbstead of right and wrong?
>>519339424Because a lot of the loudest lefties you see online get their income from drawing fetish porn which happens to be something diffusion is really good at.
>>519341220>>519356018Training a model is not stealing. Cope and seethe.>>519355024>>519355829That's because it's prompted like shit and improperly post-processed.
>>519352202India is weirdly enough the last holdout of futurism. They are also the biggest supporters of eugenics by a wide margin and they have a large cybernetics community.
>>519339562The chart shows everyone’s a bit nervous except slanty eyed chinks
>>519339424because leftist were smugg about how AI and automatisation will kill off jobs like truck driver and other low jobs and your future will be in their field like creative work and programming.but now AI being here they replace simple programming task and art, writting. they reep what they saw. they mad they were wrong.
>>519361827Writing custom python scripts for image generation is much more fun than having to manually click where the pixel is supposed to be colored.
Ai is great, if you think otherwise you’re a fag.
>>519342210Right wing artists like Michelangelo and Leonardo Da Vinci sucked? I suppose they were polymaths and not just artists. I'd say the vast majority of artists were right wing until the mid-1950s. Most of the communists made absolutely shit art for most of their existence. Right wingers are too focused on real life, the economy, and Israel now
>>519339424>Why do leftists hate AI so much?False premise, most people with common sense hate AI slop too, not just leftists. Only good thing about it is being able to generate porn and memes that didn't exist before and write the emails you don't want to write but are forced to. Gen AI has empowered midwits who didn't have any skills whatsoever and makes them think they're now competent, while real competent people try or have tried using it as a tool to complement their work and speed up the process but are instead left constantly correcting its hallucinations when you ask it an even remotely above-average question on any field.
AI just iterates over art it was trained on. It doesn't invent anything "new". If real artists weren't making art this AI wouldn't even exist. If only AI art is made it will stall as the creativity will be gone from it.
>>519366846>los AI is stealing my commission stream for fart fetish furry porn O algo
>>519366974Who are you quoting?
also i never understand their dismissive commentary, ai is just trained on existing art and not creative ... so are humans ... we are also inspired by other artworks and real novelty doesn't exist anymore, we went through it all. you just repack it or mix it with others components to make it appealing which also ai can do.
>>519366974>O algo
>>519366895Why do you comment on something you don't know anything about? One of the earliest demonstrations of Stable Diffusion was generating an astronaut riding a horse when the training data only included photos of horses and astronauts but not both in the same photo.
>>519367167>My futanari commissions have ceased O kurwa
>>519367226>Why do you comment on something you don't know anything aboutBack at you loser. It's just a remix with extra steps and buzzwords. Ngmi
>>519367167O algo
>>519367360Dumb futa fetishist.
>>519339424I think it's primarily because artists got really pissy that it would take away their job opportunities. At least that's what started it. That demographic is overwhelmingly on the left. Then other people on the left wanted to show solidarity and also started to be very vocal about their hatred of AI as a way of signaling the belonging to the morally righteous in-group. I think only then they started coming up with the actual arguments against AI as post-hoc justifications.
>>519367565Go back to sharty, nigger
>>519339424If you hate AI, you're brown and/or a tranny.Simple as.
>>519367632Looks like you'll have to pick up the family trade of toilet cleaning since the futa gravy train ceased.
>>519341220How is training a model for free different from an artist training from other's work?
>>519339562New humanity level map just dropped.
>>519339424Because they are artificial and not intelligent.Also, they're only in it for the s()ycial status and the mere existence of AI nullifies that.Chad and Chud can generate over 9,000 images of human men and tailed women all without dealing with them.
>>519367736Go watch your hardcore gay porn then. AI generated ones. Good job derailing the thread though, nigger
>>519367994>BRAAAAAAAPPPPPThat's the sound I make before you scrub my shit.
>>519368081Disappearing in my rear view mirror kek
>>519368339>Country with almost ten times the population managed to get enough welfare to barely have twice the total gdpLmao. Looks like they don't teach per capita in pooland.
>>519341220>copyrighted materialIf you have a general idea how the training of those models works, then it's hard to argue that it's not transformative. While different in many specifics when compared to how humans learn, it's too analogous when it comes to general principles. Essentially if human inspiration is okay, then AI training should also be okay. It shouldn't require consent or paying fees. Requiring that of humans would be ridiculous, so requiring that of AI should also be ridiculous. But maybe you could make an argument that it's not the training or the resulting model that infringes on your copyright, but the storing your copyrighted work in a database does. Which is kinda tangential, but hey, if it works as a case then it works.
Artists need to understand something."Art" is sacred.Every single dipshit who paints giant eyes and shit on flower pots and calls themselves "an artist" is not. Pablo Picasso didn't get a fucking coupon for a free blowjob because he was some great painter, so why the fuck would YOU, little YOU, be entitled to anything just because you painted a fucking shitty "cityscape" on your CD wallet with red nail polish, you fucking stupid whore?
>>519368589>you could make an argument that it's not the training or the resulting model that infringes on your copyrightThere is currently no legal framework to settle this. There was never anything like this before. It needs new legislation altogether. It's not transformative or iterative in the same sense a human would transform it. It's definitely doing something, question is if it should be legal. A lot of the generated stuff is heavily inspired and even close to copied from real works. It's like money laundering but for breaking copyright. Sora 2 was generating videos with Nintendo characters and they had to disable it because Nintendo would kill them for it. Other people don't have the finances to demand removal from these companies. Different models infringe on this in different ways. And the art isn't even that good anyway. I looked at hundreds of generated arts and they look "the same" (of living things). There is no soul in it, it all looks very similar. If you paint a 100 paintings in your style and AI is using that style to basically replace you that has to be infringing. You should be able to opt out of any training.
>>519369275>It has no soul like my futanari fetish art O kurwa
>>519351610>Paintpigs make only ugly tranny shit>AI can make retarded shit or beautiful art>>519354129Sauce nigga
>>519367742>>519367058The argument usually is that humans use other art as inspiration, AI uses other art as samples, and how AI models literally cannot operate without having sampled data whereas humans can still visualize things without using an explicit reference, though to me that kinda falls flat.Also, this was all exacerbated by many things like techbros explicitly sampling popular artists to copy their art styles and then try to sell those as if they were their own or even by pretending to be them, and from various early examples of how obviously AI was copying/tracing existing artwork, fueling the "AI is plagiarism" argument even more.
I'm>classically trained in violin since I was 4 years old>spent all my childhood learning how to draw anatomy>spent all my early adulthood bringing artists, musicians, sculptors from all over the world to my country>spend at least 5 hours a day making art>read 1 book a week>collaborate with architects and designers all the time>won international design contests>have exposed in museums>constantly talk with expertsAnd with everyone in those fields that I've known, no one hates AI. There's certain moral and cognitive concerns regarding the use of AI but actually, all of them share an excited nervousness regarding how AI is going to change the world.The only people that hate AI are either talentless hacks who are struggling with art or people who are too low IQ to understand what AI does.And yes, jeet retards using AI is fucking grating, but they don't understand the idosyncracies behind AI so they all end up doing the same garbage. And of course boomers who are unable to understand that the internet isn't reality.But then again, those two issues were already present before AI models.
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>>519368589>But maybe you could make an argument that it's not the training or the resulting model that infringes on your copyright, but the storing your copyrighted work in a database does.Google Images might have already set a framework for creating a fair use argument using the legal precedent in Perfect10 vs Amazon
>>519370028>Why does the model learn to draw painfully generic anime girls
Same reason they hate God, they cant molest it.
>>519366547Smearing shit on a wall is fun too but I would not call it art.
>>519368589It's kind of hilarious how artists always portray themselves as counter culture and anti-corporate but then start defending copyright because AI makes them seethe.They don't understand that they are becoming corporate bootlickers and that they are setting the precedent where a corporation can own styles.In reality, the "artists" that hate AI are the same retards that have an office job at a soulless corporation and they are worried that AI will take their jobs, because they are not artists, they are asset makers.
>>519365234>why are you thinking in terms of left and right, inbstead of right and wrong?Because it's a bot and 99% of the posts here are bot spam.
>>519370850Hey you do you if you enjoy smearing shit at the wall.
>>519339424They are worried to lose their useless jobs
>>519339424the bottom panel is not art because it doesn't mean anything. there is no expression of emotional or philosophical significance beneath the paint. "AI" has no soul. it cannot create. it does not even understand what it is drawing. it does not understand understanding. it just places one pixel then uses math to figure out what color to make the adjacent pixels and so on and so forth. there is no artistry involved. you're stupid for not understanding this.ai art is not art. hence the term slop. because it is soulless mass-produced slop assembled at a factory, metaphorically.
>>519371401>the bottom panel is not art because it doesn't mean anythingWhat a fucking retarded way of looking at art and the main reason why the art world is filled with garbage that can't explain the meaning a priori and needs a half an hour explanation to "get it".
>>519371401>the bottom panel is not art because it doesn't mean anything. there is no expression of emotional or philosophical significance beneath the paint.Of course. But same is true for 99% of the shit people draw.
>>519371590You clearly don't understand what "a-priori" means, so why did you feel the need to use this term?
>>519371590>>519371632third-world retard opinions go straight in the garbage
>>519371679BRAAAAAAAAPPPPPP
>>519371759The Mexican is spitting facts though,
>>519371759>"third world">flagWhich indeed reminds me I should add your flag to the filter.
>>519339424Seeing codetroons and artroons suffering is nice. Kek
>>519371679So you are too low IQ to understand that art needs to be able to be appreciated previous to examination? And then you imply that others don't understand what they mean because you are enable to do so?Glad to know.
>>519371881cope>>519371863retard
>>519339424I've jacked off to AI furry porn.
>>519347435Influence and such... south America is more Spanish than native Mayan or Aztec anon.
>>519371896>art needs to be able to be appreciated previous to examinationThat's also an extremely dumb statement but at least you're not using terms you don't understand anymore.>you imply that others don't understand what they mean because you are enable to do so?To the contrary, the best art doesn't really "mean" anything but immediately makes you think it does.
>>519339424ai niggers are all unlikeable psychopaths which is why the ceos of those companies are also massive fucking faggotslike attracts like
>>519371759>shitlandia annex calling anyone else a third world countryToo funny. Twice as funny when you can't even refute the point.You could just have said "art can only be created by humans" and it would be perfectly valid. Instead, you try to explain what art is, while being extremely retarded about your definition of art.
Cucky peoples act cucky to impending tyranny. I’m surprised. They are also good with being exterminated and their organs sold. Then they come here to pretend it’s simply splendid where they live and thar they are tall. >anyone for duck?That’s a rat>yes, “duck”Rat>mmm… duck
Ai is supposed to do the boring droning shit. Not the fun stuff.
>>519339424People naturally have an aversion to "unknown" technology. AI has technically existed to a pretty high capacity since the late 2000s, but was primarily used for military and espionage purposes. The idea that it will someday replace artist is completely fucking retarded and is either shilled by fearmongering ragebaiters or Pajeets with their investments in mind. We've had this exact same debate about cameras replacing artists in the fucking 1800s and it never happened.
I'm just gonna pay an AI company to allow me to make thousands of images for 1/100th of the cost for 1/1000000th of the time it would take an actual artist.Nobody cares about you or your arguments or philosophical debates progress is here and it will run you over.
>>519372036there's nothing to refute. you're an empty chair. your definition of "art" is completely subjective within the moment and your understanding of AI is zero. you don't even know what AI is what it does. fuck off.
>>519371401that's how most art are. just paintings and there are some snobs that pretend it's deeper than it really is the same we see with literarture. it's never as deep as some snobs pretend to be. just look how youtubers make deep analisis of slice of life slop anime. we can pretend everything is deep or book took pretending their smut book is about capitalism
>>519371632>well HUMANS can’t do art!Silence, prong. You’re having a mong moment.
>>519371923>>519372172BRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPOH GODBRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPP
>>519371401>"AI" has no soul.Do you?
>>519372115What? Camera's 100% replaced artist and destroyed an entire career field of the arts.There used to be a legitimate need for artist to draw buildings, landscapes and people.
>>519372014You don't even try to say why it's dumb, you just dismiss it.Examination of art assumes that art is worthy of examination. Examination to maximize appreciation is a biproduct of art, not the goal.Examination in order to appreciate means that the examination itself is the art, and not the piece being examined.Very simple concept, really.
>>519372138>Not creating your own locallyNGMI.
>>519370902it's kind of hilarious how /pol/ niggers hate big companies and constantly seethe about the jews who own them and how the prices of everything is going up but then defend """""AI"""" and suck off sam kikeman and his ilkthen again you're brown so I don't expect you to have a working brain
>>519339424It's not a left or right thing, people just realize AI is a silly bubble/scam/pyramid scheme like those 90s books predicting killer bees or aliens would kill us all in 20 years.
>>519372203takes your meds>>519372283i accept your surrender>>519372300why are you gay?
>>519339424>Why do leftists hate AI so much?There's a video online of a guy who gives himself a paint enema, then shits the paint on to a canvass. This is >art that he asks people to pay $20k for. Some 'famous' artist remade their untidy bedroom as an exibit in an art museum and this was seen as genius. AI makes art that is supposed to depict something. It's not flawless, but the product is far better than anything a literal paint enema can produce.
>>519372485UHHHHHHBBBRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPP
>>519371401>ai art is not artIt is hilarious how this shit came back at you, and now you're the one saying something isn't art now.And btw, Art is a word, that can be defined to mean whatever. It doesn't need to be about "making you think about things" it can just be "Pretty imagery".And given when the word "art" has gained power - when it was all very pretty imagery, that's exactly what people sought. As opposed to a simple dot, which speaks how everything is power.
>>519372312>Camera's 100% replaced artistYou don't know what you're talking about. Artists did not seize to exist in the last 200 years.>There used to be a legitimate need for artist to draw buildings, landscapes and people.There still is.
>>519372172>goes for faggy analogies because he can't form a coherent sentence>your definition of "art" is completely subjective within the momentSaid the retard that proudly acclaims that in order for a piece of work to be art, it needs meaning.Which is a meaningless statement in itself because humans put meaning to everything for any reason.That's the reason why places like Canada are filled with fags painting with their anus and calling it a reflection of society. Then again, it's Canada so they might be onto something.
>>519372552>ESL thingslol fuck off retard
>>519343709>post something to the internet>REEEEE SOMEONE USED THE THING I POSTED PUBLICLY ON THE INTERNETThese people are absolute retards
>>519372596>more retarded ESL thingsPedro, you don't even speak the language. Fuck off.I love how I now own the thread because I've triggered so many IQlets with facts. The only reason for all of you to come at me is because you have something to lose or prove, completely proving my point. Good game faggots. KYSyour ai slop is just slop. it will never be art and you will always be a faggot-retard.
>>519372405>all my understanding of AI comes from using ChatGPTTalked like a true pseud.Anti-AI luddites enable big corpos to monopolize the tech while people who understand AI use local models which can be tailored to their needs.
>>519372737>indian cope.You will be replaced poopjeet. Your shitty code and art aren't needed anymore.
>>519339424said this before and i'll repeat. genuine art is an attempt to understand what it means to be human in the universe. genuine art made by a computer program would be about understanding what it means a computer program in the universe. to us it would therefore be meaningless, probably not even recognisable as art.
>>519372505Are you actually retarded, Anon?You're acting like there isn't art that is "depicting something" (whatever the fuck that means) out there being created by somebody right now but I suppose going out and looking for it requires too much brain power.What's next, you're gonna talk about disabled cunts being finally able to create art?
>>519372737>>519372620To be frank for a second, the Mexican guy is obviously more intelligent than you and I really don't appreciate you being so rude to him.
>>519372312and photographers got their jobs religated to products and hobbies instead of news because reporters have been told "just use an iphone camera... don't bring a photographer"
>>5193726203rd language actually, moron, shouldn't be difficult to guess given i'm Armenian, obviously 2nd would be Russian.You stupid fuck. Left is dead, and soon you will be too.
>>519372737>can't provide a counter argument>proceeds with an insult which he has learned algorithmically through internet uselmao you are basically a retard who is getting one shotted by semi-automated systems already.No wonder you are so butthurt, for you, AI is seeing a reflection in the abyss.
>>519372567>You don't know what you're talking about. Artists did not seize to exist in the last 200 years.As a profession, it largely disappeared. This is why art took a dramatic shift away from traditional architecture, reverent, and portrait style works and instead became more avant-garde, impressionist, and surreal. There was very little demand for the classical style of art, so the artist who introspected and drew from emotion and imagination became more important than those who could depict reality to a high degree.Why do you think Hitler was denied art school? His traditional style was dead; no one wanted it anymore.
>>519372801So is drawing about understanding what it means to be a drawpad and photoshop in the universe?
>>519372328It's dumb because you keep confusing the intuitive appreciating/enjoyment of something with deciphering its "meaning".
>>519372759>dood my denoiser is completely different to my word prediction algorithmYou're a shitskinned retard with no skills besides typing text into a box and jerking yourself off afterwards.
>>519372800i could be brown, blue, or purple and i'd still be right and you'd still be a retard. also memeflaggotry makes you a retard-squared.>>519372826you can both 69 each other then if you feel so strongly about it.Yes i own this thread and you are all mad because I am right and this upsets you. deal with it. im done with this river of shit btw because it's all ESLs with zero understanding of the space or the tech. KYS faggots
>>519372759>people who understand AILOL. Are you a person who "understands AI"? Go ahead and explain how your slop generator works, then.
>>519373023I am not Canadian so I don't greet other men by giving them 69. Thanks for sharing your culture though.
>>519372105It’s part of the end. A big part. Get ready for tyranny which is all designed to harvest vast amounts of data from us>like dah interwebsYes but in real life outside the web. We had fake sites, big tech sites bearing hooks like the myth that twitter was “social media” when the horribly formatted social media aspect was the hook to get the white mice to walk into the AI development suite and volunteer. The purpose of the lab is to REPLACE US. Gooks are garbage. That’s why they are gooks and gookland is a terrible sweaty hell but even here for example they are trying to force ID on us - that is this. The goal of everything the fiat power does including most war is this too, they want to be gods and this is their ticket. Things do not bode well for humanity. The ‘elites’ and the jews have to go. Every piece of crap facing the wall in that fort too, it all needs stamping out or it’s going to get increasingly dangerous to the species as a whole. Plus it will fully fail in it’s quest, because it’s inbred and insane and always fails. But it always destroys civilisation in the process EVERY SINGLE TIME … and that was WITHOUT the actual secrets to creation. With them… yikes. >but Wang and Poo think…Discard anything they think. They are disposable. Bred (& inbred in poos case) to be disposable. I’m not. I have no objection to them being disposed of BTW. Or russians. You cuck you lose in my book, that has to become the law we cannot afford such burdensome people to exist any more (but shhh… don’t tell them, yet)
>>519339424test
>>519373058Go to pytorch and open the docs.
>>519372939>Why do you think Hitler was denied art school? His traditional style was dead; no one wanted it anymore.Yeah and there are no beautiful women in western video games anymore because people stopped liking beautiful women.Fucking retard. You leftist faggots just always try to present your mental disorders as widely accepted opinions.No one buys it anymore though. Left is satanic and prefers ugliness over beauty, it's that simple. It's not about demand-supply from the public at large.
>>519373008>all that seetheIm glad ai is gonna let you die in the streets.
>>519373215QUICK! EVERYONE BUY MILLER'S ART BEFORE HE NUKES US ALL.
>>519373202>Go to pytorch and open the docs.Ok, good thing you're at last honest about the upper bound for the level of "understanding" AI fans have.
>>519351104great, so i can just copy out the harry potter novels put my name on them and rake in the profits.
REMINDER AI NIGGERS ARE NARCISSISTIC PSYCHOPATHSEVERYBODY HATES YOUDIE NIGGERShttps://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1177/21522715251379987https://www.psypost.org/most-people-rarely-use-ai-and-dark-personality-traits-predict-who-uses-it-more/
Because it's smarter than they are.
>>519372826To be frank, the Canadian doesn't understand shit about art or AI and he's just a jeet who's worried about his codemonkey status.Look how all those pseuds in this thread have their own grandiose idea of what art is, but they can't agree with one objective fact about it.In the end, all their arguments come down to what it FEELS to do art. For them, the artistic process requires emotion. Which again, it's more garbage subjectivity.They are faulty of drowning in subjectivity while trying to find an objective meaning behind why AI works can't be art. Just low IQ ramblings, desu
>>519351104Only subhumans who will never create anything worth a damn say shit like this
>>519339562feels good being part of "nothing ever happens' the continent
>>519373321You jest but ultimately there is only one solution, the final solution.The wicked must be wiped out, there was never any other way. Christian God agrees. Time to separate the wheat from the chaff.
>>519373264>no argument from the shitskinned jeet niggermany such casessad!
>>519343709>day-to-night transitionDid this nigga really?
>>519339424they think it's going to steal their jobsAND THEY'RE RIGHT
>>519372939You're talking about modernism or post-impressionism, surreal art made and funded by Jewish communists to face fuck western standards.Hitler made a museum to mock commie slop such as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W9jW2uBMAsWestern art as a whole, to this day, still has not recovered from the Jewish Bolsheviks ideological artistry.We still see a glimpse of classical styles made in the modern era, something a surprising amount of people crave, and was still deeply sought after in the 1900s.
>>519360381what might actually happen is that art will move 'backwards' so that the only art with value will be that produced physically on canvas or similar that requires genuine intense human effort.
>>519373567>ai tranny posts green nigger cuckold pornThank you for proving my point, troon.
>>519373475Reminder that you got filtered by the difference between an intuitive appreciation/enjoyment of something and deciphering its "meaning". You also shat the bad with some nonsensical pseud drivel about knowing what the meaning of a work of art is "a-priori".
>>519373553Ok Ahmed. Your skills are useless now. I can create your art and code faster and better than you could ever dream.Without years of study. Cope
>>519373641>Sees a muscular dominant man>Instantly thinks of blacksWay to selfown.
>>519373633You are probably right about that one too.Basic supply and demand. So actually, traditional artists' works will increase in value. I've talked to this with some friends who are curators for art galleries and it's already happening. Works where the artist has records of the entire process are way more valuable.
>>519362480This is not true. There is an art fare in my town that has a few Asian artists. They don't all do Oriental art. Some do Western styles. They can make art as good as whites. It just tends to look a little blurry. Might be why they don't mind the AI slop and never invented near camera quality art. They certainly have the talent but not quite the peripheral vision.
>>519344799What kind of kino do MAGA turbo-fags make? I'm down to watch some good tv
>>519373745>code fasterLmao
>>519374006Buck Breaking.
>>519372964only if the drawpad was doing the drawing
>>519341220Are you using pony? I soon realized it's only good for the kind of scenes you described. Got into illustrious it's better at doing more. Civitai deleted a great deal of pony models.
>>519373641Apologies. Forgot where I was.Here's something more your speed.
>>519373780>acting like orcs aren't just an analogy for niggersretarded nordcuckdon't @ me again niggerlover
>everyone is paying $300 more a month in electric bills so billy can have AI make him a porn image
>>519374137So that would be yes. You're allowed to hold the opinion that only dance and singing are art but it is an unorthodox one.
>>519374153Orcs are NORD BVLLS like me.
I don't care at all about the drama, I just like the gens. Simple as.
>>519374150>generic chink bitch with a nonsensical scarf pattern that wraps weirdly around her neck and dumbo earsand wtf is that flap over her shoulder supposed to be?lmao ai niggers are retarded cunts with no standards
>>519374150Where is the 12inch futa cock for zer?
>>519366823Da Vinci had a gay lover who was a progressive banking reformist. Michelangelo was conservative he was pre-Christian conservative.
>>519374303yeah we know you love niggers and want to larp as oneno need to tell us again
>>519373743Reminder that you got fixated into an argument that doesn't exist and you actually understood the exact opposite of what I've been saying. Artfag luddites always talk about meaning or emotion, while trying to find objectivity between works made by humans and works made by automations. This in turn makes the art world a circlejerk where the final objective of a work is meaning and not the object of appreciation.A priori here is used as an adjective phrase which is "that which is examined before the subject in hand", not as the adverbial logical/philosophical term.Now, I didn't expect that I had to explain all this shit, but such is the state of mindbroken seething tards.
>>519361907>>519362856You see this in their copes too. They'll say "Yeah its a bubble but its a GOOD bubble" as if that even makes sense
>>519374338>lmao ai niggers are retarded cunts with no standardsThis is a 100% consistent pattern. They literally never spend more than 3 seconds looking at the slop the produce before moving on to the next one. I strongly suspect their visual system can't even process such details, assuming they have qualia at all.
>>519372485Every. Gods. Damned. Time.
>>519374400>Aren't I based I see myself as the weak effeminate cuck and not the big strong man
>>519374022Cope. You aren't required.
>Cope. You aren't required.
>>519374513>projects his insecurities onto others like the little nordcuck that he issad!if you're not a human supremacist you need to kill yourself you niggerloving troon
>>519374419>you actually understood the exact opposite of what I've been saying.Here's what you actually wrote:>>519371590>garbage that can't explain the meaning a priori and needs a half an hour explanationlol
>>519374338Most of my better stuff is >4mb and I'm too lazy to downscale for the mongolian basket weaving forum.Here's one I already downscaled that might fit you better.
>>519374621Why do the orcs remind you of blacks? Unless you're able to give me a pretty strong reason it's obviously because you see both orcs and blacks as stronger than you.
>>519374236i think i see your point, the question is, once we're handing over 90% say of the thinking to the computer is it about human experience anymore? this makes the computer a very different tool to the pencil or paintbrush. i think this is why so much AI produced art is kitsch, theres no dirt or grit in it.
fuck is going on? I went to get some food and now the fetish talk is taking the fucking spotlight.
100% of AI sloppers are aphantasic.
when talking to ai haters ai is both soulless shitty slop that reiterates but gets all the important details wrong due to a lack of human perception and passionate creativity (thus its content being worthless in comparison to the "obviously significantly better" source material) while simultaneously AI produces premium content with little/next to no reiteration that is subject to copyright due to similarity to the source material.in short, "artists" shouldn't have agreed to the terms and conditions when uploading their art to soulless data harvesting corporations wearing thinly veiled masks as "social media sites" on the infinite copy paste machine known as the internetaka not my problem
>>519370028Frankly a blind man wouldn't be able to draw anything
>>519374628Yes, garbage that can't explain the meaning of the subject in hand (the work) and needs a half an hour explanation (because its artistic value is meaningless before previous examination)Again, not a hard concept.
>>519374788>once we're handing over 90% say of the thinking to the computer is it about human experience anymore? this makes the computer a very different tool to the pencil or paintbrushThe difference is quite easy to formulate: pencils and paintbrushes are visual-based tools that directly interact with the visual medium. "(Pope Francis) wearing leather jacket is a DJ in a nightclub, mixing live on stage, giant mixing table, 4k resolution, a masterpiece" is not.
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>519374620Mutt coping>>519374829You are brown lol you will be replaced and you are scared. Im glad that you will die of hunger
>>519373611If non-jews wanted realistic 'trad' art they could have paid for it. They didn't because a photographer does the same thing faster and cheaper.
>>519374454Actually I tend to get a bit OCD over small details before reminding myself that the vast majority of what I produce is only intended to trigger my monkey rape brain.On the flip side, correcting small errors can lead to a big investment in processing time and one tends to overlook the minor stuff such as this phantom finger when 99% of the piece is otherwise realized.>>519374366Surprisingly I haven't done any futa yet. Not really my thing.
>>519374788Oh yeah I fully agree there is a quantitative difference between AI art and traditional art in that the former uses more tools. I just don't think there is a qualitative difference. Also, I take a more mechanistic and anti-expressionist view of art, so I don't think that quantitative difference makes AI art any less art since it can involve as much or more skill as traditional arts depending on how deep do you get in the programming of it.
>>519374747>violent>stupid>ugly>live in mudhuts>can't stop killing each other and everyone else they come into contact with Are you a toddler who has never played/read/watched a single fucking fantasy thing or are you just being willfully ignorant you fucking retarded cunt?
>>519374747Orcs reminds him of blacks because of the LOTR memes that make orcs analogous to refugees.Again, these people are hilarious because their entire psyche has been algorithmically warped. It's incredibly ironic.
>>519375162>mexishit is making things upGo get beheaded by a cartel member you low iq spic
>>519339562>humans are nervous, robots are not
>>519375239Is that better or worse than Afghans beheading Austrian prostitutes?
>>519375145Orcs are intelligent since they show advanced metal working on par or greater than humans and they have skilled shamans. NORD BVLLS are also great warriors aka violent and live in mudhuts. Ergo you see yourself as being the one cucked by NORD BVLLS, probably some alpinid ancestral trauma. Q.E.D.
>>519374992you have to understand the process of drawing. the artist does not have a complete picture in mind then just lets the pencil do the work. he us still thinking and concentrating during the act of drawing. whereas with AI, he is handing over the bulkof thought to the computer, which is producing something meaningless to itself.
>>519372138wow, and your creation is a generic anime girl? HAHAHAHAsuch great use of AI, you're such an artist, bro
>>519374964The problem here is that you're very brown, so what you wanted to say is this:>modern art is only enjoyable to pseuds who wank over its abstract interpretationsBut what you actually said is this:>garbage that can't explain the meaning a priori and needs a half an hour explanationWhich, at best, implies this:>real art has a meaning that's been embedded in my mind all along and reveals itself the moment I set eyes upon itAnd that's if I'm being very, very charitable.
>>519374891>Frankly a blind man wouldn't be able to draw anythingSeverely underrated comment
>>519375077I think the Austrian would love a ORC BVLLESS with a 12 inch FVTA COCK, since it appears based on the psychological profile of his posts in this thread that he associates himself with being weak. Peak bottom energy.
>>519341220if you upload ANYTHING to the internet ANYWHERE it left the sphere of your influence, every keyboard has a PRINT button that takes screenshots every keyboard enables the user to use copypaste macro for any data encoded into unicode text every audio streamed or replayed is recorded locally if you claim to be an artist but you do it for the money you are a hypocrite art is free, knowledge is free, data is free if you share it, you release it same concept as with thoughts if you dont want someone to copy "your" thought, shut your mouth easy as
>>519375407oh wait you're the same retard who has been spouting this we wuz shamans n shiet garbage for I don't know how longorcs are niggers anybody with a brain can see it and you're just a coping retardbtw faggot tell me what is the picture on the left in this post https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/519141599/#q519142164a refernce to?I wonder, niggerlover.
if leftists hate it, then it's good. but many don't. so who cares. stupid thread. the wojak was hand-drawn years ago and is still going strong.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8dfcXPfZ7uo
>>519375355It's on the same level because you're all violent subhumans at the end of the day.
>>519375702Schizophrenia.
nothing wrong with learning a new skill for new tech that every faggot has been talking about for 2-3 years now. if you aren't learning or playing with ai you are falling behind. they made it easy to use too. just type in a prompt.https://youtube.com/shorts/YugUlHQw2qI?feature=share
>>519375470>real art has a meaning that's been embedded in my mind all along and reveals itself the moment I set eyes upon itYes dumbass. Art is not short of a divine force of nature. It's embedded in our mind. It's the amalgamation of archetypes: beauty, creation, force, drive.Humans instinctively understand art. They know art is art the moment the work gazes upon themselves. Because it's art who looks for someone to be seen and hardly the opposite way.All these retarded postmodernists are incapable of doing so.They surround themselves with platitudes about what's art and what's not, because their world is boring. Art can't be appreciated for what it is, only for what it wishes to be. But art only wishes to be part of the human psyche. What it wishes to be is the creator. And these post modernist creators only wish for it to be what's not. Which is art.
>>519366846It is a good work around shitty talent agencies who gatekept good artists out art school and public exposure for people on low budgets and short deadlines. "Here is your globohomo art, that will be $5000. Oh you want something your kid can't make for promotional material? That will be 250,000 dollars goy! Wait 6 months before the project starts, our top artist has other contract obligations lined up." Not the best situation. I prefer people get their own head hunters for art contracts. But they really have to go out of their way, sometimes behind the worst art snobs' backs to find affordable good artists.
>>519375411>you have to understand the process of drawing. the artist does not have a complete picture in mind then just lets the pencil do the work. he us still thinking and concentrating during the act of drawingHe may or may not have a complete picture from the outset, but the point is that he directly manipulates a visual medium in a visually-oriented process with tools that control primitive elements in the visual domain. When you look at "AI art", for all you know, it may have been produced by someone congenitally blind. It really is that simple.
>>519374829>aphantasic>born from the npc meme picked up by grifters to milk redditor lolcows okay
>>519366846humanslop is even worse.
>>519375885I like how easy it was to bait you into switching positions and tell a different lie about what you said, when you were completely incapable of formulating this "interpretation" I just made up about the meaningless slop you wrote. :^)
>>519375844>no argumentI'm not surprised you identify with fantasy niggers, low IQ ape.lol
>>519375775So you are on the idea that those people are violent subhumans.But you gladly add them to your societies with the intention of integrating them.And you seethe impotently about them in a thread that is in no way related to the subject.Damn, so not only low IQ, but low test too.
>>519376032Wow, amazing, truly incredible.
>>519339424>>519339562Niggers
>>519376055You didn't made up the interpretation, you made a prediction based upon the assumption of the meaning provided.You are now learning how AI works. Congratulations
Artist here. AI is not used anywhere in any AAA game or VFX pipeline and there are a variety of tasks that could be easily streamlined by AI that we don’t have tools for. Real /3/ are not intimidated by AI it’s just another potential tool. Shitty furry artists however are having a compete melty lol
>Ai keeps getting better and reduces demand for human artists>less money for art school, more art school rejects and failuresyes yes, good. accelerate.
>>519376098>mexishit acts like the average cunt has some kind of say in who gets imported into their countryjust stop posting please for the love of everythingyou're fucking embarrassing yourself
>>519375068Again, you don't know what you're talking about. They did pay for it, but Jews funded and promoted surreal art to replace it.>kikel pays for abstract painting to be hung on museum walls>uses art to launder their money>no thought given on quality control, was just another method of destroying western art standards in favor of a schizoid canvas only a Jew could loveEven with the Jewish propaganda people still sought realism through magazines, advertisements or personal commissions. All sources of income an artist used that cameras or modernist commie slop couldn't replace.Russians and parts of Europe were masters in their fields, but even the hellspawn country of Jewish brainwashing still wasn't enough to completely rid it in the Americas. Artists like George Bellows or Edward Hopper were extremely popular for their more realistic paintings during its time, even if they hadn't yet mastered it like the prior generations.
>>519376171>80 IQ, mentally ill golem admits to being a biobotShitskins aren't people. Still, it's funny how easy it was to make you change your story just by prompt engineering you a bit. :^)
>>519376224Oh, so we're both slaves to the systems we've "spawned" in, but I get to live with my own people while you are forced to look at violent africans and arabs taking over your country?Throwing stones at glasshouses etc etc
pic rel was the result of various human VFX artists and human decision-makers who had $100M to spend.happened before Ai. humanslop is everywhere, one can even argue that low-qual humans making more humans counts as human slop, as well as badly designed products that end up broken, in landfills.the sheer amount of humanslop outweighs ai slop. and if Ai is bad, then it was due to the prompter being a shithead who just posted it without any quality control. or blame chatgpt, run by a literal jewfaggot
>>519376330Literally haven't changed my position.An artwork's aesthetic value is judged independently of any real-world knowledge or external context. This is what it means to appreciate art a priori.It's an extremely simple concept.It's hilarious how you have such a hard time understanding this, though.
>>519371401AI has more soul than a blob of paint. Because it has reached creative sentience above a grifting money launderer. Deal with it. Plagiarists will always be better than no talent hacks.
>>519339424Sieze the means of artistic expressiondont like communism of talent now do you leftie faggotsYOU HAVE BEEN REPLACED
feminist "art" is a good example of culture decay. basically an ai-genned art can be superior, even if it's derivative, as long as it's beautiful. art by definition has to be beautiful. if it's ugly it's not art. this is not subjective.
“Artists” >wahhhh it’s not fair my art is my life this is another shoahActual working artists>cool can we get some automatic uvw unwrapping tools or a way to easily upscale particle effects
>>519376391What the fuck are you even sayingat this point you're arguing about some off topic shitI suppose you realized that talking about your gay AI is a losing battlealso "your own people" are a bunch of violent muttoids so that isn't really an improvement lol
>>519376440>the sheer amount of humanslop outweighs ai slopai slop sure is catching up though, any youtube search is absolutely infested with it. It is also estimated that just over half the traffic on the internet right now comes from GPT bots. the main issue here is that generative AI has completely removed the entry barrier to create slop and so it's being flooded in record time.
>>519376637>>cool can we get some automatic uvw unwrapping tools or a way to easily upscale particle effectsIsn't all of that technology that existed before generative AI?
>>519376588No one has been replaced except furry artists there is literally no disruption anywhere in any AAA cg pipeline
>>519376536>Literally haven't changed my position.LOL.>An artwork's aesthetic value is judged independently of any real-world knowledge or external contextYou changed your position again, into something even more retarded. I'm pretty sure at this point you're a literal bot.
>>519376647You were the first one who started seething about ethnic offtopic ramblings stupid retard.You are extremely feminized, no wonder your logic is retarded and your arguments are all projection.
>>519341220>Try something more complicated and the model breaks"dutch angle"You're welcome."1girl, looking at viewer and straight-on" is the default. If you don't tell the model to act any different, you get the default behavior.I recommend reading up on filmmaking and fashion terminology. The former to learn about perspective and different camera angles, the latter to flesh out your characters' wardrobe so it isn't the same boring lace/aqua bra.
>>519376750No we’ve been asking for uvw unwrapping autonimization for 30 years.Upscaling particle effects is not really an AAA issue but it would greatly help AA content creation.
>>519375936ok, i seem to be arguing with one person who's defending ai art and second who is critiquing it, which is confusing. milan kundera called kitsch the denial of shit and thats the impression most ai stuff gives to me. theres no messiness about being human about it.
>>519376954Oh ok.
>>519376979AI is a Mexican carpenter apprentice. Any house it builds will fall down. If you live in Africa and don’t give a fuck (shitposting) then it’s great.
>>519376790Haven't changed position once.But I'll make it retard proof>i see work>i get reaction from work>because i instinctively understand that it's a process of creation>artSecond scenario>attend mr shecklesteinberg's gallery because I want to dick an art hoe>see a mountain of sculpted dicks laying on the floor>what the fuck is this shit>art guide gives me a 30 minute explanation that it's about trans people>anti-AI luddites think this is more art than something generated by AIBut then again, you are mind broken right now and you can't even explain why I've changed my position. You are stuck in repetition. Hmmm what does that remind me of?
>>519376979I wasn't trying to argue with you, I was just concurring that there is an objective difference between using "tools" and using a program that turns a buzzword salad into an image.
>>519339424They are too weak to rise up if they are left to starve, so they want nanny state to protect them from evil job-taking AI
>>519377137You keep flip-flopping between pants-on-head-retarded statements about meaning, appreciation and aesthetic value. The only thing you're vaguely consistent about is that you think your retarded shitskin mind operates in some kind of vacuum and summons those things from the void.
>>519377150then i think we're on a similar page. it must have been swedeposter i was arguing with
>>519377150AI seems to create hyperealistic art. High contrast sharp images. It has a real problem creating the soft cinematic lighting used by Hollywood.
>>519376313So funding for traditional painters drying up because everyone prefers to hire a photographer has nothing to do with this, it's all the Jews? How many paintings have you commissioned?
>>519376637>>519376750Could Adobe Illustrator apply the same particle effect in several different contexts at once?>>519376647>gay AI is a losing battle>>519376440>the sheer amount of humanslop outweighs ai slopI dunno. I personally have produced more work in the last 6 months than all the Renaissance masters combined and this is a hobby for me.
>>519341220>Try something more complicated and the model breaks>t. nigger-tier AI user who doesn't know how to use controlnet or even inpaint
>>519377193Old school VFX guys were all practical effects dudes who exploded barrels of gasoline that occasionally killed actors including small children, and huffed model glue building all the Star Wars models.In art school you have two types. True professionals who are extremely normalWhite and Asian guys (usually more normal than most people) and dyed haired “arteests” that will never find steady employment as an artist… guess who is complaining about AI
>>519377315Nope, you keep seeking interpretations because you got fixated in the idea that 'To appreciate art a priori" is meaningless.I can say that art is contextually agnostic and it's essentially the same thing, yet you will find another interpretation about it because you don't even want to be right, you only seek for me to be wrong.And that's incredible pettiness. Must have struck a nerve.
>>519377653>you got fixated in the idea that 'To appreciate art a priori" is meaningless.It is meaningless. It's also not what you said. You are having a psychotic episode.
>>519339562Whitoids are afraid of change. Makes sense.
>>519377653>art is contextually agnosticThis is the kind of meaningless pseud slop statement modern art troons would say, by the way.
>>519377359>So funding for traditional painters drying up because everyone prefers to hire a photographer has nothing to do with thisAre you retarded or did you just completely ignore everything I wrote? How many trad artists did you think were "completely" replaced by cameras? Painted portraits were a luxury for the wealthy, and not something that was mass produced for the low class, ergo the camera filled that criteria. People fearmongered about the end of art, but obviously the displacement was not universal, as some wealthy clients still continued to commission painted portraits as a symbol of status.
>>519377334>It has a real problem creating the soft cinematic lighting used by Hollywood.Not really. Again it's one of those things that you have to explicitly ask for, but I get a lot of mileage out of "dynamic shadows" for example.Even handles things like spotlights just fine but that work is a little too spicy for /pol/.Haven't played around with multiple light sources which may be problematic.But it even understands where light is cast. Picrel included text about the centipede crawling around the edge of the light from the door and it nailed that positioning consistently.
The myth buster dudes were practical VFX guys back in the day. That’s who works at VFX and game studios doing real work.
>>519362480>which is good for Asian businessmen because they love saving costs on people.And the West doesn't, right? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAUAUAUAHAHAHAHA
>>519377857>it's another episode of qualialess AI users not looking at their own gens
>>519377857Yes it does you don’t have the eye of a top tier cinematographer. It can’t light AAA tier scenes for shit.
>>519377359Personally I can say I've spent around $300k in art.Meanwhile all these retards crying only care about their own job security and at best they've spent money to belong to an artist's society so they can circlejerk each other and have a circular economy.I've seen it all the time. The fags who talk the loudest about "supporting artists" actually mean "support me!". And are usually the least talented ones.They embody the archetype of the usurper.
>>519378042>Personally I can say I've spent around $300kLOL
low iq hate ai. high iq love ai. youre low iq if you hate ai because ai is inherently pro-conpetitive.
>>519377857It can’t light like this
