Why doesn't Ukraine buy nukes from NATO
>>519341377NATO would rather Ukraine didn’t start a nuclear war presumably. Why did it give up the ones it had, why doesn’t it make new ones it’s self if they know how
nukes are fake.
>>519341377Did you know Gelitin had an art project called Movie Club in downtown Manhattan? You could walk in off the sidewalk and watch the latest blockbuster films with members of the team.
>>519341500>Why did it give up the ones it hadTo get Russia and the United States to sign a pact that would guarantee Ukrainian sovereignty. It was called the Budapest Memorandum. Unfortunately the 2014 coup basically made that document a roll of toilet paper, and now here we are.
>>519341377Because that would require soviet technology. Ukraine has desovietized itself. The 90s and will cease to exist by the 2030s. Hands down the most retarded (white) nation on earth.
>>519341834>sovereignty>guaranteed by third partiesThat's not how sovereignty works. Ukraine is not sovereign because it earned enemies it cannot possible survive on their own, so it will always continue being client state unless they manage to resolve that issue.
>>519342715>That's not how sovereignty worksI distinctly recall Putin guaranteeing the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk three days before the invasion.>Ukraine is not sovereign because it earned enemies it cannot possible survive on their own, so it will always continue being client state unless they manage to resolve that issue.Correct, but the issue will not be resolved. It may never be sovereign again. The day this war ends it will be a debt-serf state servings its owners. Whether that's EU banks or Russian fuel moguls doesn't really matter.
>>519343056Personally, I don't see Ukraine continuing to exist as a state, since... once the war is over, all their people that worth at least something, will leave. They aren't wasting their lives to repay Zelensky's debt in crippled failed state soon to be filled with muslims and jeets to the brim. That territory is going to be unlawful hellhole that would produce hilarious amount of insane shit in nearest future. Fortunately we established proper border control with it, so it's mostly EU that will receive all the benefits of having new Afghanistan right next to them. Surely they can't close borders with their spiritual ally, can they?
>>519343446>Surely they can't close borders with their spiritual ally, can they?Depends on how the peace agreement works out. I would not be surprised at all to see something like a Black Sea Special Economic Zone dividing Ukraine at the Dnieper and governed by corporate interests. The country could very easily end up a glorified labor camp for migrant workers.
>>519343611It doesn't matter. That territory is simply huge, the amount of new ukrainians it requires is half of their existing population. That would be mostly muslim young males. That is going to be something to behold. Even jews are going to flee from there in the end, because the rise of antisemitism in inevitable in such circumstances. That shit is not recovering, it's not WW2 where women simply printed retarded amount of boomers in short period. You cannot fix the lack of population in 2025, it's like restoring London of NY if they were the size of a country. That's not happening. Once you loose your people, your country is dead.
