>Quranism is an Islamic denomination that generally rejects the authoritative role of hadiths, and considers the Quran to be the only dependable religious text.Why is this such a radical idea to most Muslims? It's basically considered heresy
>>519352568I said what what?
>>519352645in the butt?
>>519352568>hadithsI'm unfamiliar with that word and I'd like to stay so
>>519352689Had ifsIf it happened Theyre like maybes
>>519352568Scripture-fags are retarded.Muslims and non-denominational churches
>>519352689Hadiths are the sayings of the prophet recorded 50-100 years after his death and vary in authenticity. They are needed because the actual contents of the fully canonical Quran are very, very limited, offering basically no practical advice. Even the "five pillars of islam" can't be found in the Quran.
Have you ever read the Quran? It's impossible to make heads or tails of any of it with out the hadiths. The chapter are arranged from longest to shortest or vice versa. But it's not in order, it's all mixed up bull shit gobbledy gook. Fuck Islam, and Jews/Talmud.
>>519352568anon: you can't just deprive mud butt zluts for zutts from their dose of zutt cock
>>519352568Get lost foid
>>519352568fuck off muzzy SAGE
>>519352917If the five pillars aren't found in the Quran then why are they so important?
>>519352999>quranism is an islamic denomination that generally rejects the authoritative role of hadiths, and considers the quran to be the only dependable religious textthat's kinda interesting.
>>519353305The Qur'an is the word of Allah. The hadiths & sunnah are recorded sayings & practices of prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Quranists in short accept the message but deny the messenger. They disregard anything seemingly critical of the prophet instead of seeing the truth behind it
Because they don't want their zuttjobs taken away. They're so dedicated to them that they integrate *the pose* into their prayer, prepping themselves for the figurative mounting.
>>519354115This is how Jews pray and how Jesus prayed.
>>519352568Strange that the Aryan Yes Chad was used instead of the Arab one.
>>519354203jews dont pray like that the hell are you talking about>inb4 some obscure image
>>519354282I remember seeing it once on yt. Just look up Jews in Al aqsa msoque
>>519354282Jews pray every day by beginning to thank Hashem they were not born a woman a beast or a goy
>>519354430das ritebut we dont kiss no floor
I thought it was actually heretical to use anything but the Quran when practicing Islam. I don't understand how most muslims are just okay with listening to their imams and following random hadiths based on where they are born and who they grew up listening to. The small bits of the Quran that I've read either gave completely insane prescriptions or just nonsensical gibberish. Worse than the old testament somehow and that literally advocates for genocide and slavery.Gnosticism is the only sensible form of abrahamic monotheism and its funny most of the texts are considered heretical to christians.
>>519352568muslims say bible is corrupted because it is written by men, but then they believe books written by other guys 300 years after mohammad's death.
>>519354071The Quran was made up by Mohammed in between his zutting sessions.
>>519354566Is Gnosticism technically monotheism at all?
>>519354566It's not that random at all, for Sunni Muslims there's only two important hadith collections where everything's compiled, Bukhari and Muslim.There's some lesser ones but Bukhari and Muslim are the base.
>>519354807To add to that actual Sunni theology was basically solidified by the 10th century and hasn't changed much since then. There's not that much to interpret anymore because most questions are considered settled once and for all, using direct quotes from the Quran and from strong hadith.
>>519352568It's Sola Scriptura.False religions typically reject Sola Scriptura, because if one actually tries to seek out God by esteeming what they think is His Word above all of man's ideas they will find Him.My son, if you will receive my wordsAnd treasure my commandments within you,To make your ear pay attention to wisdom,Incline your heart to discernment;For if you call out for understanding,Give your voice for discernment;If you seek her as silverAnd search for her as for hidden treasures;Then you will understand the fear of YahwehAnd find the knowledge of God.— Proverbs 2:1-5To give a concrete example, this is why Satan does not want followers of the religion that he spawned to study the Qur'an alone:He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel previously, as a guide for people, and ˹also˺ revealed the Decisive Authority. Surely those who reject Allah’s revelations will suffer a severe torment. For Allah is Almighty, capable of punishment.Qur'an 3:3-4>God revealed the Gospel.>Unbelievers will be punished.The Word of your Lord has been perfected in truth and justice. None can change His Words. And He is the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.Qur'an 6:115>The Word of God does not change.Note that no Muslim believes all three of these things, because if they did, they wouldn't be a Muslim.They don't believe these things, because demons distract them with Hadiths, so they don't actually grasp the full implications of their own central text.
>>519352568 Because the Quran itself is a barely comprehensible spew of gobbledygook. The hadiths are the tool that the Islamic priesthood uses to render the Quran viable as a holy text and both provide a basic framework for their religion and to mold the minutia to suit their needs. Purely semitic religions like Islam and Talmudic Judaism are legalistic affairs where the letter of the law is paramount and interpretation of that letter is the difference between heresy and holy writ. Imams and Rabbis are as much "spiritual lawyers" as they are priests in the way that westerners understand the term. Imams weaponize the hadiths to modify and re-interpret the Quran in ways that are useful to them and claim that was the original meaning all along. Quranism is a knee-jerk reaction against the obvious corruption and self-serving legalism of the Imams, but is doomed to failure because the Quran is a mess of a document. Their failure just re-affirms the Imamate's control over the interpretation of doctrine and serves to justify their self-serving ways in the eyes of the Islamic faithful.
>>519352568>Why is this such a radical idea to most Muslims?They cant have gay orgies with zutts withouts hadiths guiding their buttholes.
>>519352568KYS muzrat
>>519354760Depends on which branch you're talking about but belief in stuff like the demiurge doesn't make it non-monotheistic as in most of them you are still believing in a single divine entity as the foundation of all existence, spiritual or natural.>>519354807>>519354909My major point is that the Quran is supposed to be the word of god, and is not meant to be interpreted by mortals. Hadiths are quite literally interpretations of the Quran by mortals, this is by definition heretical yet most every muslim follows them anyway. And modern muslims absolutely do pick and choose which hadiths they follow and there is still debates around things like aisha's age and whether its okay to fuck children and at what age its appropriate to do so. It's extremely obvious the theology hasnt changed much since the 10th century, yes.
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>>519354928This too. I don't recall the exact name of it but the concept is very similar to how the Supreme Court justices in the US re-interpret the constitution. When you have an unchanging foundational text that has internal problems with consistency and a lack of answers, as well as problems coping with the times, you kind of have to invent this "legal framework" to work around it.
>>519354203>t. viet-kong, but also mud butt zlut for zuttsfun fact: mohomod was a kathoey too
did you guys know that muslimas wash their pussies after peeing? honestly it made eating one out kinda hotter. the forbidden, but very clean fruit.god i love being a chad and women being women.
>>519354917>Muh sola scriptura >God's word doesn't changeExcept when god's son is nailed to the cross then the word is fulfilled, hallelujah
>>519355160Get cancer and die
>>519355264>Get cancerI probably will from the pussy eating, HPV is no joke. Thankfully, the immigrants have much lower infection rates (Austrian girls at 60%+, Syrian girls under 10%).May I ask you what made you so angry?Are you a muslim angry at me for getting his women or an incel angry at me for getting women?
>>519354928Thanks anon, I always knew Islam was retarded.
>>519355059>Hadiths are quite literally interpretations of the Quran by mortalsNo, they are not at all. The contents of the Quran and hadiths are completely different. The Quran consists of stories, mythology, and a few commandments (many of them only for the Prophet and his times), while the hadiths are sayings and everyday actions of the Prophet with many many more recommendations and commandments.Lets say Jesus did his ministry and only told stories from the old testament, but didn't tell early Christians to write down any of his parables. Then, later his followers wrote down their accounts of his life and sayings into the New Testament. How could you even be a Christian if you didn't have access to the New Testament, only the old?This is approximately Quran vs hadith (kind of).
>>519355341Incel here, we will press the button on the nukes in about 15 years.
>>519352568Why you post preddit meme? You stupid?
>>519355431>spergs out>when prompted why, tries to apply le epic sarcasmI seeIn any case, arab women moan with "Aye" sounds. very interesting.
>>519355378Yea that sounds fucking ridiculous. Jesus came, we got a bunch of gospel interpretations of his teachings and life and there was heavy debate about what was real and what was heresy and ultimately what decided that was politics and social dynamics. Hadiths are exactly the same, I don't regard any of these religious texts of abrahamic tradition as serious, there is way too much historical record to prove how they were all manipulated by mortals for their own ends. The problem with Islam is even worse because we got one book that was entirely made up to fulfill personal desires and then years later a bunch of other men made up their own interpretations of that nonsense for their own ends. There's more validity with the old testament to new testament pipeline and that already is fishy as hell.
>>519355581I blame God for my autism
>>519355808You can blame yourself for your atrocious behaviour, thou.
>>519352917Mohammed was zutted in the ass
>>519355808because it's been used as a justification for terrorism, and the idea of rejecting hadiths is heresy. this isn't an argument against it
>>519352686zutt zutt
>>519352568No one hates Muslims more than Muslims.. and Indians. Imagine if every denomination of Christianity was like non-denominational/evangelical and proclaimed every other Christian denomination to be essentially satanic.. this is the crux of why there will never be peace unless one form of Islam conquers all others.
>>519356664in the butt
>>519352568Quranism was psyop made by the British to dive Indian Muslims
>>519354656moozlems are retarded apes.
>>519354071I don't think they deny the messenger. What they deny is rumors of what the messenger said. The Quran is infallible but hadiths might be?
>>519352568Cuz that’s literally what Muhammad said. I know it doesn’t make any sense. But for example in the Quran it says to pray 3x a day but in the Hadith it says to pray 5x
>>519354566Islam is basically Gnosticism that fled to the orient. Sufism would interest you
>>519352568because sectarians are retardedit even says in the Quran that hadith should not be written down because it gets corrupted easily
>>519354566they are like cattle literallyindoctrinated from a young age into sectarian beliefs
>>519358176a lot of hadiths were actually written by jews who were convertedthats why you cant trust jews even after they convert
muslim rats in damage control this is so sweetbend over for zutt dick
>>519355113 More or less but unlike the U.S. constitution, the Quran was never clear or easy to read/interpret. There are entire passages of the Quran than make even Islamic scholars scratch their heads because they read like Muhammed was tripping balls and blithering the first thing that came to mind. Honestly I wouldn't doubt if that happened a few dozen times...>>519356699 Islam is even more prone to schism than Christianity because Islam slots in seamlessly with tribal Arabic culture. Within Christendom local culture and religion have always been different spheres with only mild overlap, converting to Catholicism only introduces a twinge of Latin/Roman culture into one's nation. Islam on the other hand imposes Arabic culture and is written by bickering tribalistic Arabs for bickering tribalistic Arabs. Sharia is just the tribal Arabic lifestyle elevated to holy writ and more often than not the "spiritual" arguments of the Imams are just veils to advance tribal agendas. Every major theological dispute in early Islam was simply cover for the coalition of Arab tribes that Muhammed assembled dicking each other over for power. If all religions but Islam disappeared tomorrow then Islam would devolve into a thousand tribal factions Jihading against each other in the name of "truth" and it would never, ever end.
>>519352568queeran says mohomo goes to the mosque covered in cum from getting zutted
>>519356664>be in mecca>go to the nearest queeranist temple of fags>spray paint zlutt of al zutt nut in mohomos butt>???>profit
>>519354670>Queeranftfy
>>519360238Its a clear sign that a priesthood is breaking down when nobody places his hand on such a man's shoulders and says "Do not utter such things, those words are retarded".
>>519352689I'm not an expert but from what I've seen they appear to be a list of all the homosexual stuff Mohammed got up to
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