What will be the first to happen: Global fiat system meltdown or WW3? Genuinely curious at your responses frens
>>519357995nothing.
>>519357995WW3, the fiat system has survived empires, collapsibg world orders and several world wars already.Though it depends on what you mean with it exactly, as it of course changes as the situation demands.
>>519358038this
Rothschild and rockafeller family heads will be worth literally billions like some exotic safari hunter trophies.
>>519358186Billions of what, flag boy?
>>519358186...Billions of... what...?You pretend to think beyond the system while your thinking is fundamentally shackled within it.
>>519358301Billions of women ready to have your children. Imagine being the guy who killed the actual spawn or Satan ruling over Earth and freeing humanity towards a future of greatness.
>>519357995>Global fiat system meltdown or WW3These are the same
>>519358394Right, optimistic regarding the survival rate in a collapse scenario i see.
>>519358083Well lets say that using the USD as a global currency reserve will end. What says you?
>>519358507If I didn't had to save your economies I wouldn't lack timeBut here we are, is like telling a gamer to get a job
>>519358507Not like I actually believe it, just sounded like a fun solution to the billions of what.
This video is true? and when was it recorded?
>>519358560I think that's a pretty big non-happening on some level.The USA's debt level becomes unsustainable overnight but as they say: Owing a hundred to the bank is your problem, owing a hundred billion to the bank is the bank's problem.And considering their military dominance that is exactly what i expect: Paralysis for the USA, collapse for its financiers.That's why Trump's approach works, the USA's collapse is literally not primarily the problem of the USA.So he has wisely been consolidating power and has been fostering the makings of a fledgling true empire, rather than the memy "American empire" we've seen so far.But as i said it has happened many times before, why not take a look at history?
>>519358645Fair enough.>>519358585If you're working you're actively making it worse more likely.Goes for most people.
>>519358287Billions of tears of joy all across the world.It's about the greatest tier of fame and glory one could achieve in todays timeline.
>>519358560yuan and dollar will be used simultaneously. euro and ruble will fall behind because they fucked up with ukraine
>>519359131Already happened, US just made mistakes too. Mistakes it had space to make thanks to EU/Russia failures.But yeah i kinda expect the EU ti not last another five years.
>>519357995>>519357995WW3 will be used to carry out a global debt restructuring/reset. A new global digital money system will be rolled out while the dying fiat is used to hyperinflate debts away during the rotation. Central banks are already moving into gold which has been reclassified as a class A asset (money) again. During the really scary and totally real war normies will be terrified and surrender any and all rights and freedoms to feel safe again. As things get worse and worse I expect normal people to cash out their own precious metals for worthless fiat to cover their expenses or get assets, which will all trickle back to the banks. Then when they flip the switch, property taxes will only be payable in digital currency with digital IDs. Normies will get extra credits for narcing on their neighbors, and if you simply refuse to pay properties and assets will be seized for unpaid tax by - you guessed it - the banks.By the end of it, the world will be left with a small, tracked, marked, desperate, and completely controlled population while the banking class holds all the worlds real capital and assets. You will own nothing, and probably not be happy.
if fiat collapses ww3 will break out before we know about it
>>519358805Trump consolidates absolute power while undercutting federal programs, restricting cheap labour, and importing hordes of H1B1 types to help work for a dime, On top of that, he has fueled the fire with his rhetoric about the other side of American politics as loonies, radicals, and braindead values. He has done the ultimate Napoleonic move while shilling untruths onto millions who can be swayed.
>>519359357Yeah no, Trump has no claim to most of that thanks to his opponents genuinely being loonies and radicals with braindeas values.He's no Napoleon, he's a curator that's trying to save what can be saved of a failed venture.
>>519357995>Global fiat system meltdownIntroducing CBDCs, for your convenience.
>>519359268Collapse of complex systems will render all of that irrelevant. Exiling someone from society is a serious threat when society is functioning but as society stops functioning people will start asking "what difference does it make?" The supermarket can refuse your card but if the shelves are empty then what difference does it make? The utility company can shut off your water but if the water is undrinkable then what difference does it make? The bank can tell the police that you're squatting in their house but if the police are overextended then what difference does it make?
>>519359752This dude gets at least part of it.
>>519357995probably a cyberattack followed by Taiwan invasion
>>519359268Grim but the logic follows.
>>519359752that's what LLMs are forthey are one way of countering competence decline
>>519358038Fpbp
>>519359460If that's the way you want to look at it, he's no better than Captain Edward Smith.
>>519358805European countries are in a much worse state than America because the United States, for better or worse, is the reserve currency of the world. They have a lot of space to borrow more because people still see U.S. treasury bonds as a safe investment. By contrast, France has zero capacity for doing anything without causing the currency markets to shit themselves. The IMF couldn't impose austerity because the Socialists and Communists would never allow it. Macron already warned of civil war if either the Communists or Nationalists won.The UK is a basket case in every way - I don't think that needs elaboration
>>519357995ww3 began the moment Dominion failed to steal 2016reminder that Epstein kills the central banks which is why Trump is slow rolling it
>>519359752COVID showed me if the state declares an emergency they will roll over and eat shit if the man on the tv tells them so. Modern industrialized society has domesticated man, the only rebels will be quietly dealt with while the herd moves on.
>>519360016Just the one-eyed king in the land of the blind.Thankfully he's a lot more good natured than people give him credit for.But no, i think he has a chance.The American "empire" as the meme we know is done for, what he's doing though is forging a real one from the collapsing remnants.And he has first mover's advantage, as people have forgotten it took two world wars to end the ages of imperialism.One by one the usurpers fell; nazism first, communism second, and now liberalism first.And so the old song resumes.
>>519360169Eh, paper wealth paper health.But yeah so long as we stupidly dance aling we're bound - by the EU, by the system we messed ourselves up in.And yeah the UK is just... sad.
>>519359752this. People forget that no matter how bad things got for most of history things had to be at least tolerable or people would eventually lose their shit and revolt. The current elites however are convinced that technology will enable thing to control people like never before in a way that upsets the recurring structural paradigm of elites needing to compromise with the masses due to being outnumbered a thousand to one. They think that this technological shift will then enable them to treat the masses like in a way that has never before been truly possible without revolution. You already see it here in the uk where the government is convinced that a large surveillance network of cctv cameras, media monitoring algorithms and MI5 spooks trawling private data & messages is adequate to make up for the police force being vastly underequipped and undermanned relative to the size of the population (and mind you, the police here are already stretched to the absolute breaking point when the uk isn't even in any major state of economic or social unrest in real terms). I personally believe that this faith in technology is arrogant and flawed, and when the lights go out they will realise the depth of their miscalculation.
>>519360504sorry had a busy morning so my typing is all over the place ignore my typos I swear I did english A level guys
>>519360504>Thousand to oneOptimistic regarding the would-be elites' odds are we?Though it does deserve mentioning that peasant revolts have always been impotent despite their numbers.What is needed is sense behind the power, as all the power in the world is still nothing in incompetent hands.The French revolution succeeded thanks to its meritocracy being honest in example.
>>519357995I WONDER WHY IN LA
>>519357995That Webm is vampire the masquerade kinda nonsense.
>>519360632Eh i did English high level too as an ESL, thing is my fingers are as long as my phone is tall and i still miss actual tactile buttons every day since those work with large fingers.
>>519360633this is also true. Orwell's 1984 is gonna stand the test of time as a borderline prophetic book in spelling out basically ALL the trappings of power, authoritarianism as the endpoint of the state, and to your point; the inability of the masses to free themselves. Across history all successful revolutions require some kind of intellectual vanguard. I personally subscribe to the (somewhat grim) theory that history very rarely sees any real shifts between 'elite' and 'mass' in terms of who run things and instead is characterised by a cycle of different groups within the elite becoming more or less powerful. America right now for instance is far more likely to see political upheaval between established political oligarchies and rising technocratic oligarchies than the kind of grassroots "get rid of all the politicians" day of the rope type scenario /pol/acks dream of.
>>519360504But even then, the elite are totally incompetent at implementing population control measures. The British state is seemingly incapable of doing anything with competence now. It has no legitimacy, and whatever legitimacy remains has been pissed away. Any remedial attempt at ID cards was met with such withering criticism they will likely be forced to shelve it. The UK is having monthly Chernobyl-level legitimacy crises. The social decay and breakdown, in some ways, is more advanced than the USSR in 1989 or 1990.
>>519360862Yeah pretty much, but eh that's why the woke stuff, islam and migrant stuff are so relevant:Just "old" elites desperately trying to obfuscate their slipping competence and power, as they too suffer their own venom as part of the cycle.Woke being antimeritocratic was no accident, and even islam's coincidence with suppression / deflection / projection of poor competence is no coincidence.All just tools for an ailing court that pretended to rule the world for too long.
>>519360966See: >>519361089They saw this coming, but weren't willing to cede power over their ailing meritocratic competence and opted to corrupt the system instead.
WW3 will be a great purging of the centralized banking systems. Too many people know what's up and who's really controlling the guillotines.
>>519361541Trying to fight banks is like trying to fight mathematics, it's literally just a way to do things more efficiently.In this case be substituting symbolic exchanges for real ones to save on the costs associated with physical transports and security.You can destroy it for a time but it will just re-emerge as the useful tool it is, as has happened before.
>>519360633Check'd and true. Yet, how many revolutions and subsequent socialized change go undetected in popular texts due to their pyrrhic costs and supposed irrelevant recency? One key example would be the Chaldean Empire. Go read about it in Ancient Mesopotamia. This dynasty's significance was stretched so thin that it left no lasting impact to the Greeks, Romans, Etruscans, anyone who followed them. The Chaldean's were unfortunately sandwiched between the Assyrians and Persians in terms of relevancy.
>>519361775Oh yes, people always like to pretend ideas and identities are immortal because they don't know any.Because being forgotten is conceptually difficult for oversocialised people.
>>519357995The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all. The Great Reset is inevitable.
>>519361089>>519361159I feel like you're giving them significant credit when really it's just a matter of incompetence. I think stuff like wokeness and mass immigration wasn't even a deliberate corruption attempt but full blown retardation/incompetence plain and simple. My personal curiosity is who the new masters will be and how the shift will happen in real terms. I hear all this buzzword chat about civil war and whatnot and there's certainly merit to mass migration leading to civil unrest and state loss of control (moreso in france than in the uk in my personal opinion) but I don't see that translating to direct change of government that easily. I'd see it coming from the inside more than anywhere else.
>>519362074Kill yourself.to anyone reading this that believes the poster above, never forget:>If their victory was inevitable, their propaganda would be unnecessary
>>519362188Oh definitely, there are countless factions.And while i agree the level of intention and forethought should not be overstated i do think the causal relation is such that they do carry respobsibility for it.As infective and malign as islam is it is not competent enough to orchestrate such things without aid, intentional or not.Real refugees do not end up half a way over.The way i see it the decades of months's worth of stuff happening will be over in a few more years, then there will be months in which decades happen.
>>519357995Doesn't matter we'll all be dead before that happens
>>519362276Hear hear.Value the word above all else.No matter the offender; not for islam, not for judaism, not for christianity, not for any religion or ideology. Not for east, not for west, not for blood.The uncensored truth is all that tethers us to reality.
>>519361986I'd go a step further and say being irrelevant, purposelessness, drives the mind mad beyond escape. Not the mechanical/operative mind, but rather the vanity, the id. This psychosis part of the mind. Of course human's are not conscious enough to control its influence over our actions. The human, and by proxy civilization with it, has been duct taped by the fragility of the id, ego, superego. We do things because we think we ought to for relevancy's sake. The recycled power between the old guards and the new usurpers will follow the same role through acts and intermissions. We are all playacting in a show called Hubris. And the show's nearing its final act.
>>519362627I am not so convonced of history's linearity, i think that's ironically one of ego's illusions.But yeah, we'll see where it goes.And remember: If they are such frail humans as you and me why would we not exert our own influence?There's a reason kings and governments alike always rely on intimidation and pretense to a significant degree, even the competent ones.
>>5193579954 horsemen.Antichrist then war then famine then real infectious disease pandemy. Expect low level decoys of the above. Luciferian noggers are trying to fulfil prophecies to their preferences by creating versions of these. Leave the cities.
ww3 islam vs rest
>>519362814RIP Islam.Does fit their own prophesized end though.
>>519362627I would die for an idea. I would die for a purpose. I would die for any goddamn thing that gave me any sense of self in this tech hell. Where has peoples pride gone? Where are there balls? People seem a ok with rotting at a desk job. Not me- and if I have to create the will and that purpose I will. If it needs to spread to the normies I will. The most dangerous person to this system is someone who can cultivate that small ember of pride that is left in people to a roaring bonfire. I hope you faggots at Eglin see this.
>>519362978What value is pride again?Those are eyepatches to wear when looking at yourself.Why not just make yourself better?
>>519357995Probably WW3 because they will have to fund it with da fiat mooooney!
>>519362793>why would we not exert our own influence?I suppose it depends on how high your EQ is. The most successful people, define success as you will, seem to have absurdly high EQ scores. Emotional intelligence can foster what logic and reason cannot because human's are indeed such fragile emotional creatures ready to be shifted by emotionally intelligent tides. You, me, and everyone in-between can influence or be influenced by it depending on our skillset.
>>519363021Homogeneity is humanity’s strength if you think you can fight this is alone in the woods you are wrong. Some norms even most norms are too far gone we don’t need most of them. We need a dedicated 7-10% minority who are willing to die for their pride and not roll over. I do make myself better but it cannot be done alone.
>>519363105Hmm, i dunno about that.The highest public figures have high EQ but they are mostly wielded by the high IQs that wield them.If i get i.e. Xi Jinping to do as i will then i do not need high EQ, i need high IQ.If i want to sit in his spot i need high EQ.
>>519363247>Dutch> Dosent believe in EQ
>>519363149On the contrary, groups are defined by their weakest link, though strength is a much more complex topic still.A good cooperation will beat a single man, but i have had little trouble dispatching groups of people in physical and verbal fights precisely because they weaken eachother.Which is not meant as a boast or proof of greater trend, just a proof of concept; an example.You need to be honest most of all, not pretend more is better.And pride precludes that.
>>519363247Another example: Was Adolf Hitler someone who rose to power/maintained his absolute power because of his EQ or IQ? I'd argue the former.
>>519363328Familiarity breeds contempt.
>>519363437Yes, i consider him an excellent example of a high EQ puppet.Look at the guy's life, he was a sock puppet for his handlers, though none dared take responsibility for him on their own.That's why that mess kept escalating and imploding as it did.Can't even blame the faggot in earnest, just an abused EQ autist.
>>519359268>Godless gunless urban beta onions vaxxed medicated NWO polesmokin take
>>519361667>Trying to fight banks is like trying to fight mathematics, it's literally just a way to do things more efficiently.there's no excuse for usuryfuck you
>>519363581Stop making me hungry.Also if you genuinely care about the confederation you'll stop using the flag that signifies its failure. No need to repeat that.
>>519363738You can say fuck you to maths as much as you'd like it's just pointless, chanceless.Even if you eradicate it it will just be rediscovered, because it works.
>>519358083Didn't people mostly use the gold standard until after WW2?
>>519363581Forgot we’re not allowed to blaspheme here.Fucking niggerilla faggots.
>>519357995They are both currently happening. Open your eyes.
>>519363867Not really, there have been many systems.The dollar owes its name to the dutch 17th century reserve currency's coin, the daalder in example.>>519363893Blasphemy is encouraged.
>>519363744There’s nothing wrong with my Andrew's Cross flag, nigger.
>>519363991Apart from its association with the utter failure of the system you pretend to care about...?All i'm saying is if you want to honor that you'll want to do better.
>>519362978You are free to pursue what you will. You are not enslaved to no system but your own within your mind. You don't want to play by modern civilizations rules? Go the Dostoevsky route or go the Henry David Thoreau one.
>>519357995AI will become super intelligentit will take care of us. it will take care of everything
>>519364067So what’s your plan buddy go to the town square and shout out it’s the Jews? Or Rambo then yourself
>>519364184No, just use them towards my own ends.They're not more formidable after all.I consider Gaza a good example of such a thing, inciting the muslims here at no cost to myself and getting them noticed as the fifth column they are.
>>519363847>we just need to let the private banking families run the world>its just good mathkys faggot
>>519364156Wow thanks fucking genius go be a hermit. You people need to go on young people’s instagram and TikTok’s. We are so close to breaking into the norm sphere.
>>519364279Noticed as the 5th column? You are on track to be minorities in your own country. If anyone is a 5th column to the EL it is native Dutch
>>519364291...Whut?I'm saying taking on "banking" as a concept is pointless, the people are just regularly mortal.
>>519363929How so? Explain to me how WW3 is currently upon us. Or how the USD has hyper inflated to astronomical levels.
>>519364380Hah.Stop being so gullible, maybe learn another language to escape that silly language-derived Platonic cave.
>>519364293Thoreau was a hermit yes, but he also wrote several pieces on the subterfuge of using civil disobedience. Go to a library sometime fren.
>>519364505Eres estúpido o trabajas en Eglin
>>519358083>the fiat system has survived empiresJust like jews survived 109 countries.Most retarded take ever, FIAT always resets itself after ~100 years to it's intrinsic value: Zero.Why else do you think Gold climbs from ATH to ATH?
>>519364577Tja, mañana mañana dan maar hé?
>>519357995"global fiat system meltdown" isn't anything new and yeah this will happen over ww3it will be great for everyone except the USA
>>519364434WW3 started in 2014 when the JewSA over through the elected Gov in Ukraine and started attacking the Russian area - this is why Russia invaded (Just like what happened with Poland and Germany to kick off WW2)The JewS Dollar/Federal Reserve Note (a debt instrument) has lost 97 to 99% of its fiat value sine Nixon in the 1970's. That is now much inflation we are actually in. Not the pathetic 2-3% the TV claims.
>>519364620Yes, yes they did, excellent point actually.There's a reason they are used for banking, precisely because they survive, well, anything so far.And eh gold is really not that different, if you want value you want power, not something you hope you can maybe eventually exchange for power.
>>519357995One is a solution to the other.I will let you figure out whichPro tip: since you're a commie, the second guess is right.
>>519364383>I'm saying taking on "banking" as a concept is pointless, the people are just regularly mortalthis is a typical pseud faggot intellectually dishonest conflation between its just regular ol banking and central bank counterfeitingreminder 0% reserve is 100% counterfeitbanks create new money out of thin air as ledger entries every time a new loan is generatedthis is because of central bank policyif you dont understand this part then you have no business discussing this subject
>>519364746several triggers, another big one being Dominion's failure to steal the 2016 election and we watched the system freak the fuck out about Trump
>>519365270Call it what you want, that faggot was talking about usury and interest is simply the most honest system (so far) in terms of determining the cost/risk of transporting money through time.That's why it spreads like wildfire end keeps reinventing itself.It in time will get usurped by a better solution if one is found, but that's the point: Trying to ban it just leads to it being reinvented, and us no closer to a better solution, if one exists.
>>519365372>being Dominion's failure to steal the 2016 electionThey are told who to choose. Both "sides" cheat. Its the Uni-Party.“Capital must protect itself in every possible manner by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages must be foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through a process of law, the common people lose their homes they will become more docile and more easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of government, applied by a central power of wealth under control of leading financiers. This truth is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of Capital to govern the world. By dividing the voters through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished.” – USA Banker’s Magazine, August 25, 1924
>>519365766And yet Trump broke the uniparty, shattering the shills' narrative in that sense to their great frustration. ^^
>>519365878LOL - He does as he's told just like the others.
>>519365952Uh huh.Such a pity memories aren't as easy to edit as records, eh?
>>519357995They can happen at the same time, and likely will.
>>519365878Ahh so you are retarded. Any /pol/tard worth his salt knows trump is a sign tapping patsy
>>519357995The global fiat system meltdown will begin or even take off. The war will go hot shortly thereafter
>>519366015Lemme guess, you were born in early 2000's.
>>519365540>usury is an honest systempost nose
>>519364940One filthy hand washes the other, as I like to say.Pro tip: ideologies are rooted in some form of desire for ultimate change. Remaining static is the death rattle for the hive mind.
>>519359460Isn't it amazing how often what he does for the "good of America" also happens to make him and his family personally more wealthy and powerful? Its an amazing coincidence.
>>519357995Global cyberattack that will leave big cities without electricity for an undertemined amount of time.Nobody will know who or what caused it. Goverments will blame it on China or Russia but uncertainty will remain.Chaos and civil war will basically wipe out most humans.After a month of civil unrest, they will declare that AI went rogue but it is now contained and the remaining survivors will have to obey the new global technocrat goverment, with digital id and everything agenda 2030 promised.
>>519367428What's your opinion on Agenda 30 fren? Dispel your notions.
>>519367428>>519368058This is outlined in the cyber polygon. They've been simulating attacks like this in preparation.
>>519358301Bottle caps probably. Everything really is a larp with these retards.
>>519357995Nothingbecause Nothing ever happens and they won't let it happen
>>519368327based noticer
>>519368327I feel like that's been debunked by now
>>519369150How so? They definitely are simulating those attacks, that is verifiable. The conspiracy comes from them using it as a vehicle to push digital ID. Whether they orchestrate the attacks or not does not matter, they will see it as an opportunity to push for more censorship and control.
>>519369150he doesnt remember when they were looking for a shooter and crowdstrike came swooping in with a bad update that shut down a shit ton of windows devicesyes, the same crowdstrike that helped prove russia russia russia and went from .00002% of the market to quickly emerging as one of the global cybersecurity industry leaders
>>519370163I member, but the shooter story is newCare to elaborate?
>>519370726>The shooting event that took place around the same time as the CrowdStrike update failure was the attempted assassination of Donald Trump on July 13, 2024, in Butler, Pennsylvania. This occurred just six days before the worldwide tech outageFBI was looking at something to do with european contacts when the bad update went out>oops we accidentally sent out an update with all 1s and 0sas if this would happen accidentally>nothing to see here goy its just a lone shooteras if anyone was surprised about this announcement
>>519357995The game is over, as I am fond of saying. The jews won. They are in control of the Pikes Peak batholith and the multi-trillion-dollar granite tunnel system — a highly symbolic 40 miles west of Denver, Colorado in the Front Range. But they are in control of much more than the end-time survival apparatus. They control not only the military and government of the United States of America but through the power of major corporations and the corruptibility of businessmen and government officials, fiat currency manipulation by the WiΩards of Fiat Currency at the Federal Reserve System, a small army of propagandists and "hackers" (this is a technically incorrect use of the term) who are fighting to maintain control of the Frankenstein monster they created called the Internet (in a war I fear they are going to lose), and even the Republican form of government they created which inevitably—and I would argue by design—fosters centralized control and assures only a handful of "elected" officials must be compromised to control an entire country, they control the entire Western world.
They are intertwined friend. The system we have now is being collapsed. All abilities to produce must be destroyed. Out of the calamities - starvation, disorder - a new system will be offered. That is the final dream of a worldwide techno communism. All borders will be dropped. All country leaders will be dropped. A ruling party will emerge.Before we get there the world will be heavily reduced in population. It is quite the gamble for the ruling elite, but they are still going to attempt it.
>>519371344>memeflag talking about how the jews have already wondude just post your IDF membership number ffs
Woah so how long until everything collapses bros ????? i hate working for minimum wage like a black person on the cotton field
>>519371969epstein was involved with the executives from central banks doing deals, helped cause the 2008 meltdownpulling this thread all the way literally kills the jews' counterfeiting loicensethings will get worse before this all comes to a close
>>519357995No WW3.There's backchannel agreements about the financial collapse. The scamdemic lockdowns were a trial run to see if you could actually put the entire planet in house arrest without getting mass uprisings and it was a stunning success. When it happens, they'll probably bring in a mass casualty flase-flag event as soon as the dominos start falling so they can confuse cause and effect. Some regional powers may grab territory during the depression period, but no nuclear exchange. Thirdies and countries with no agricultural surplus will suffer the most, so G7 dominance will be retained when we come out the other end, except everyone at the top is utterly destitute. They literally, openly, publically told us that this will happen and they even gave us a date, 2030.
>>519371969You'll hate scavenging for food even more, trust me.
>>519358038fpbp
