>glance at the cigarette prices at the gas station>$14 for a pack of marlborosdo tobacconiggers really?
17.50 on liquor a day, on a good day. Every day, for the last year.
Lately its more like 32 dollars and that whole bottle is gone in the morning.
>>519360293Bullshit no way
>>519360293good. tell those faggots to switch to vapes, which makes it easy af to quit over time. if you're extra lazy/weak, just taper the mg and then start transdermal patches.there's really no excuse to continue smoking in 2025.
>>519360293I don't believe youHere it's 12.50€It was 3.50€ when I started smoking 15 years agoI doubt the US of A have had more tax increases than us
>>519360293It will get worse...The overall price of a 20-cigarette pack now exceeds A$50 (approximately US$31.50), making Australia the most expensive country globally for cigarettes
>>519360667until your government double dip taxes it with a federal tax, a state tax, and then doubles the state tax so that its 70% taxes and what used to cost 20$ now costs 80.And it damages the industry so much, they cant sell the bulk 100ml, 120ml, 140ml size bottles anymore leaving only 60ml bottles for 55$.
>>519360673in jew york, one pack of cigarettes is $18 to $19 jewbux. i'm not talking about dunhill international, davidoff, or similar brands. just marlboro, camel, etc.
>>519360293hahahahahah tobacco fags are the state's paypigs. 2 dollars worth of smokes 12 dollars worth of taxes. Get fucked, losers! Get a bag of shit next paypigs
I remember being outraged at $10 cigs 20 years ago
>>519360792you faggots pay taxes on ejuice? we'll be paying £2.20 per 10ml starting next year.
>>519360536I switched to vapes but I'm pretty sure cigarettes are $15+ a pack at this point in NYC. Most heavy smokers know someone selling smuggled cigarettes for a bit cheaper, probably $12ish
>>519360293>$14 for a pack of marlborosland of the free
>>519360932Ontario had a provincial excise tax, then the federal government added their own vape oil tax, then the provincial government pretty much doubled their existing one to mirror the federal. Then add on general sales tax (13%) and you get about 70% of the cost of a bottle in taxes. >Federal Excise Duty$1 per 2 mL up to 10 mL, then $1 per 10 mL beyond thatAgain they stopped making bulk bottles it hurt the industry so bad, so any savings you might have gotten evaporated too. Now you can buy either 30ml, or 60ml bottles.
>>519360416>>519360452are you black?
>>519361400No my father was murdered by the government and I have no future without a career because White Man.
Am gonna say the wordShart
>>519360667How about because I want to, fagoot
>>519360293I switched to Winston Select.It's about $5/pack here in the South.I'm considering rolling but O don't like any of the flavored shit.
>>519360932i pay $40 for 2.8 mlall taxes
>>519360293Kentucky i get 2 packs of camels and a fountain drink for under 14
>>519360293Its even more expensive here.15 years ago weed was the expensive ingredient when you wanted to roll good dutch joint. Now its cheaper to roll a pure weed joint lmao.
>>519360293$10 for 20I could get 20 for $3 when i started
I look just the same as I did b4, the lonely guy walking around Am to obvious to hide, is this posts that are as memorable as a lobotomy
>>519360293I buy bags and tubes, I think it's still around $20 a carton but I don't care enough to price it out.
>>519363939What do you buy?Cause all that flavored shit is not for me and I tried it for weeks at a time.Could not take the flavoring at all. It is pipe/cigar smelling and I can't stand the smell of neither.
>>519364113Ohm red with gambler king cubes, but if you're paying $5 a pack you're doing alright.
>>519360667Vapes are for faggots, just switch to premium cigars. Can still have a smoke, but you aren't inhaling, and the cost of a decent cigar is probably 6-7 dollars these days so they have to actually think about when they want to smoke it instead of sucking cigarette dicks every 30 minutes
>>519360293>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7836994/>How nicotine can inhibit cytokine storm in the lungs and prevent or lessen the severity of COVID-19 infectionits amazing that this is the one vice they tried really really hard to get people to stop doing and including insurance companies in their effort to make sure that people's ace2 receptors in the lungs were available for covid insertion
>>519364460Thank you for your recommendation. Yeah I am, so far, but it's not going to last.The fucking war on tobacco and pushing everyone to the fucking mystery vape is ongoing.I actually smoke to control my blood pressure because my family is fucked in this regard and genetically everyone but me has a high blood pressure.No obese or fat niggers in my family and the doctors are "baffled".Only time I winded up in ER with 210/150 etc. was when I quit smoking. For a moment I was even put on the pills.I quit smoking twice for 18 and 6 months respectively before I connected the dots.My entire family is on a truckload of fucking pills and it doesn't work..I smoke 10-15/day and have 0 problems.Vape shit though raises my blood pressure (tried that too cause I bought into the "healthier" meme). It's not only the nicotine that works.
>>519364532>Vapes are for faggots, just switch to premium cigars.so switch from sucking robot dicks, to sucking nigger cocks? sounds gay af.next time your wrapping your mulatto lips around a stogie, think of me. how it looks like tyrone his his tip in your contorted birdshit catcher.homo. faggot even.
>>519364892>tried that too cause I bought into the "healthier" memeeventually it will be discovered that vaping is very offensive to the lymphatic system
>>519361824>>519361129pg/vg base + pure nicotine = winning.make your own and tell the tax man to suck it.
>>519360293>1 dollar for tobacco>13 dollar to fund niggers and israel
>>519365019>i-its just a little propylene glycol coating your lungs and working its way into your bloodstream and lymphatic system, what could go wrong
>>519364792After I figured out that cigs help to regulate my blood pressure I did a lot of research.>all epidemiological studies show that smokers have a lower blood pressure than non smokers>Asbestos borne cancer affected smokes SIGNIFICANTLY less than non smokers>radiation affects smokers less>alzheimers' prevalence less in smokers>after decades of "research" not 1 fucking actual experiment showing that tobacco smoking causes cancer>we have epidemic of loung cancers in women and the ratio of women/men is reversing. All non-smokers>skin aging is NOT more pronounced in smokers>black lung is a total propaganda and any surgeon will tell you that. Smokers lung is indistinguishable from the non-smokers lung. Only minimal thickening of the lining amongst the smokers.Btw. I had links to all that and now my bookmarks to nearly all of them are 404
>>519364959>eventually it will be discovered that vaping is very offensive to the lymphatic systemmaybe. doing that shite long-term is stupid. it's absurdly easy to start vaping and quit nicotine entirely. you don't even notice if you taper off 1mg every few weeks. after 3-6 months you're nicotine free with almost zero withdrawal symptoms.
>>519364944I don't smoke I'm just saying if the goal is to quit, why would you switch from inhale cancer sticks to cancer faggot juice over an all natural leaf
>>519364892So many different gamblers i use the black and orange, closer to the old camel lights than anything made by camel.
>>519364959I wouldn't be surprised because they make the juice with mystery ingredients and the only substance in it that's cigarette like is the nicotine.From my point of view nicotine is NOT the only ingredient in the cigs that's working. It is a synergistic kind of thing with tobacco, like with any other herb.Vapes and nicotine patches raise my blood pressure like nobody's business and I feel physically bad on them, while cigarettes lower my blood pressure and keep it low.Smoke inhalation isn't great for you, obviously so I limit my smoking to 10-15 a day and I get to NOT be on a truckload of pills.
>>519365201you have extremely granular control over the vape dosage. not just on the ejuice, but the device itself. playing with coil resistence, dl/mtl settings, and so on. it virtually eliminates withdrawl symtoms.even transdermal patches will fuck you up. your head will be cloudy whilst wearing them, you'll want to kill every nigger/jeet/chink in sight, and life will generally be shitty.the robot dick makes the process much easier, and eliminates 80% of the drama.
>>519365295Got the same tubes but then went with the carbon filter (the black ones) from Amazon and the smoke became much much smoother.Try it anon, since you roll. They are black and I can look for them if you are interested. For now I won't be rolling but I saved your recommendation for the tobacco cause I couldn't take alm that flavored shit.
>>519365365>From my point of view nicotine is NOT the only ingredient in the cigs that's workingcorrect>Smoke inhalation isn't great for you, obviously so I limit my smoking to 10-15 a day10 is a high amount for mebut I'll smoke one 3 or 4 times before its gone
>>519365611Any less than that and my blood pressure goes up so that's why 10-15, depends on the stress levels.I have no idea why my family is as fucked with the high blood pressure, nobody does so I control the symptoms that way.Quitting is very easy for me desu and I liked not having to smoke but fuck that shit. Until the herbal medicine or the allopatic medicine figures out why we are beating hospital records with our blood pressure I will be smoking.
>>519365295What’s a good cigarette stuffer out there?
>>519360673>Here it's 12.50€>It was 3.50€ when I started smoking 15 years agoI remember France being a lot more expensive than Belgium. Last time I bought Marlboro there it was like 15€ and that was a while ago. Also felt like it basically doubled since the year before that
>>519366104get the mechanical one with the levera friend tossed me an electric one a couple years back because it was a pile of shit and pissed him offeventually I was like, this thing is a pile of shit and pisses me off too
I usually just suck dick for cigs
>>519366384boo this man
>>519366441Want head?
>>519360293Find cheaper vices...
I make millions per year off tax returns that means completely nothing to me. I've gambled at casinos and just left six figure chips when I got bored.
I pay 10 jewros for 50g, lasts me nearly 3 days. 55 jewro cents for papers, 1,50 jewro for filters.
>>519366600No you don’t fat boy you live in your moms basement
I prayed to God for help to quit and now this thread appears. And it's raining. Thank you God. I have a few left and then I'm done forever.Also cheap ciggies are like $8-9, sorry you all live in hellholes where they're $14.
>>519366104Just roll em yourself, takes me 10s
>>519360452Look up Kessler (1/2 gal) and thank me later.
They need to keep upping taxes on alcohol and tobacco until so few people buy them that the companies making them go out of business. Both are so fucking awful for people it's insane. Alcohol and tobacco combined occupy at least quarter of total US heath care expenditures.
>>519367140My grandpa just turned 91 and has been drinking and smoking since 16. Explain that nigger.
>>519367140i've been smoking since i was a kid and have never been to a doctor, nor do i have any health problems.
>>519360293i get a whole pound of rolling tobacco for $12.99. thats 5 cartons worth of tobacco, i did the math and get 20 cigarettes for $0.50
>>519360293At what point do people start growing their own tobacco and making their own cigarettes? Until then I guess there's still cigarette smuggling. Did you know you can make more money smuggling cigarettes than slinging heroin? AND with guarantee no jail time for first offenders. There are massive organizations that move cigs from low tax states like Virginia to high tax states like New York. The drivers are the only people ever caught (and nothing happens to them, first time), so they just hire new drivers all the time.Fun Fact: Michael Brown, the black guy choked to death by NY cops, was selling "losies" (cigarettes out of the package). 100% guarantee smuggled, but since there's no package (with NY tax stamp) the cops can't "prove" that they are "illegal" cigarettes.It was the Democrat governor telling cops to "crack down" on smuggled cigarettes, that caused them to kill Brown.He (alone) was probably the most "dindu nothing" nigger killed by cops, and it was 100% democrats who did it.
>>519367140they tried raising tobacco tax in north dakota but it failed by a huge margin. the state of nd constitution requires a vote of the people to raise taxes, thats wat income tax is 0.5%
>>519367904Nobody lives there nigger
>>519367888checkedif the nigger protests began at that point, I could have understoodthose cops were way in the fucking wrong to have done that to that dudebut since the nigger protests were not organic and globohomo realized they missed out on an opportunity there, they set up George Floyd as a catalyst to meme it into reality
>>519364944Checkd and kekd
>>519360293Still cheap in Mass aslong as your able to go up to NH and get a cheap carton, even a carton of the worst good smokes cost at least 50-60$ though....it will only be impossible in another 10yrs if liberals keep pushing the prices up to engorge themselves on the taxes.(sin tax though a hold over from when we were a heavily Christian nation, is now used by liberals because they all LOVE banning things).In a nation that worships sin , we put a sin tax on cigarettes and liquor lol.
>>519360667How about you just grow your own, retard? Oh and taxes? Monero, there, no more taxes.
I switched to the nicotine pouches and those are good. I like the 6mg and 9mg velo and zone pouches. Now, I smoke a cigarette on the weekend. Still smoking American Spirits. Used to smoke close to a pack a day for years
>>519367888It's illegal in every state besides Virginia because of big tobacco kikes.
>>519368891STFU kike
>>519360293>>519360416Let degenerate addicts pay a premium for their vice. I have no problem with this.
>>519369141You should just do it anyway. even if it's illegal bro, most the country got away with growing need for the last near century.Please don't call me a kike bro that's worse than nigger lolI'm a camel red guy but I can't even smoke what I like anymore, gotta go to NH and buy Basic brand reds.
>>519369553Weed*
>>519360416Alcohol is poison that lowers testosterone levels
>>519367888Checked btw
>>519369553Meds
>>519368891>It's illegal in every state besides Virginia because of big tobacco kikes.Probably "on the books" illegal but who's going to enforce it? I don't think they care about some guy with 5 tobacco plants for personal use.My sister smokes, so I looked into this. The real problem with home growing tobacco is the "curing process". That's hanging it in a barn or shed for 6 months while it "cures" (I think it's LIKE lacto fermentation).You can buy 100's of types of tobacco seeds online, no problem.
>>519360825>2 dollars worthit is bout 15 cents of tobacco, manufacturing and logistics included.
>>519369709Whatever glowie. Your a bad bad person and you know it.I have to smoke just to deal with your kike'd society. Admittedly also because I like everything about smoking.Go take your SSRI faggot.
>>519369933You’re fat
>>519369798See your 100% right it would not be enforced , UNTIL some big tobacco kike realizes he can profit off it like what happened with weed.The issue is that tobacco does not get you "fucked up"/ high like home grown weed so most Americans even if they do smoke are simply to lazy to start home growing tobacco (we will totally get off the couch to get fucked up though).What happens when your crop of tobacco dies because of a bad season or a fuck up on your part right ?
>>519360293My cigs are cheap. $3.50/pack. However, a pack of marbies is $10.>>519360673Cigarettes here have like a varied luxury tax on them that could be ridiculously high or pennies of a dollar, it's basically an inconvenience fee you have to pay for being a smoker. Some places are more jewish about it than others.
>>519360667> there's really no excuse to continue to use any tobacco or nicotine product in 2025.FIFY
>>519370014I can smell the estrogen injection coming off the seethe from this post.You can see my nudes glowie you know I'm a average non built guy , I'm certainly not some fat slob though.Search me up in your database and give me a call babe.
>>519360722Can't those upside down Niggers grow tobacco or something?
>>519361643You have no future because you get drunk every day. If you're like 30 then you've permanently fucked yourself, you'll always be poor and miserable. But if you're under like 25 you can still make it if you smarten up.
>>519370605Meds
>>519360825>>519360871They need to heavily tax alchohol. Alcohol can actually kill others that aren’t drunk in a variety of ways.
>>519360667>tell those faggots to switch to vapes, which makes it easy af to quit over time.I quit smoking by switching to vaping 9 years ago. At this point I've been vaping as long as I smoked, and way more often. I just do it at my desk all day long. It's not a real quitting solution for nicotine addicts.
>>519360293lmao I buy bootleg ciggaretes from Moldova and Bulgaria, less than 2€ for a pack. If you buy a few cardboards of 10 packs they discount them to 1.50 €. Not very horrible either, same brands as in EU/NA
>>519360293i switched to lucky strike red 100s, they are 8 bucks>>519360416i pay 23.55 for my daily 30 pack of natty ice
That is crazy prices desu...I've recently started the nicotine pouch pill. I prefer Velo brand because the container has a storage compartment. So I can put a pouch in my mouth for a minute or so, get a good buzz, and then save it for later. $6-7 can stretch for a couple weeks at my usage rate.
>>519360293Realistically, they should be like $1.50 per pack and the lack of smoking would explain why millennials and zoomers are such low t faggots
>>519361750My old (friend) used to jack a carton of Dorel cigarettes from the local grocery store about once per week until they finally started putting them behind glass.
>>519360293No kidding! I used to smoke. G’dam used to be able to get a beer and pack of smokes for 5 bucks… I’m old, but I ain’t that old.
>>519360293I pay $7.43 for Marlboro red here in FL
>>519360293>do tobacconiggers really?Listen boy, it comes to an age when you need to stop smoking cigarette shit and start inhaling real tobacco
>>519360293Tobacco kills nanobots.
>>519360416I was eating 200mg THC gummies 1 a day all summer. This id day 3 without a gummy. Ive got >100 left. I'm just taking a break.
>>519360871and 7 dollars before that
>>519360293>vapes are now thirty dollars>im trying to quit which means i buy one then throw it away after a few days despite it lasting for weeks>only to buy a new one days later because i am a pathetic addicted ratI live in a luxurious hell.>>519370799Please say you're exaggerating with the daily bit.
>>519371124That's because you still have federal minimum wage. It was no different in Massachusetts 15 years ago when I could buy marb reds for 8$ but then in 2011-13 they raised minimum wage so of COURSE the state and corporate kikes instantly raised the sin tax to mirror the minimum wage hike.If you make more money they will just hike prices so they can profit off your raise. (((they))) Will never ever let you make more money while keeping the price of goods the same -that way you never save money, that way you never gain the currency needed to change things or make your life better.
>>519360293I quit smoking 12 years ago when it was 5 bucks a pack but they always had crazy deals.Really do miss my marlboros.Loved smoking. Vape faggots have no idea.
Tobacco grows like a weed. Just grow, cure, and age your own and get a tobacco pipe.
>>519372387>Really do miss my marlboros.me too. I used to chain smoke, had to quit or die
>>519365365I am thinking about donating blood to reduce my blood pressure.
