I noticed a lot of Holocaust-denying crap popping up here, so I decided to share my family story. My kosher family on my moms side lived in Huta Stepanska in the Second Polish Republic. Small village, mostly Polish, a few Jewish families (including mine) and some Ukrainians. They were assimilated Jews, ran a local shop and farm. Miraculously, they survived the German army passing through, Germans didnt shoot them like they did across Ukraine. Theyd probably still be there if they hadnt fled UPA massacres in 1943. Ended up in Wroclaw where I was born. If they werent assimilated, living in a shtetl and speaking only Yiddish, theyd have been toast. Shtetl death rates were 100%. Jews were really slaughtered in executions where my family lived. Thats the truth. I can believe 6 million died this way, especially adding death camps.
>>519361884>Miraculously, they survived the German army passing throughMany such cases
>>519361884Hitler helped create israel through the havaara agreement. Some even say he was a zionist.
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>>519362027>Many such casesNot so many. My family survived only because it was assimilated and lucky.
>>519361884ive taken a look at quite a bit of the denier material and it all strikes me as flat earth style evidence and reasoning, with the same retarded stubborness that comes from cultic belief systems.
>>519362304Sure chaim, how many polish children did your family murder?
>>519363245Nevertheless, the Holocaust is ancient history, a tragic episode of WW2. Even considering the full horror of that ethnic cleansing, its impossible to compare it to the genocide post-2020. Injecting people with modRNA/AAV-based genetic concoctions is incomparably more sadistic and brutal than executions or gassing in chambers imo.
Since your kike ass is still alive, that just only proves the holohoax is fake n gay.
>>519363773i wonder why you started this thread
>>519361884>can believe 6 million died this way>I just dont know basic maf or what the size of 6 million truly is
>>519363773a holocaust it a jewish ritual and has nothing to do with ww2 unless you want to consider Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki and rabbis dedicating the sacrifices to the blood egregore
>>519361884>they survivedi dont like this. they should have been killed.
>>519361884And what about the october revolution? Who was leading it? What did they have in common?
Yes. Some jews were miracously saved and some genocided. Antiholocaust are pushed by jews themselves to create retarded stances. It was Molech sacrifice. Blame your own retard. Also fuck off from Poland. Dont you have any honor?
>>519364385>final solution is to have jews move out of germany>never ever mention killing them as part of the final solution of having them move to itsreal>have axis comms cracked early enough on in the war and never find evidence of this>the red cross itself backs up no genocide>the jews providing free labor to the Brown Brothers in exchange for their trip to itsreal were working to earn their trip>they got stranded when the supply lines failed and many starved to deathits just sad that anyone at all believes the holohoax meme
>>519361884>Shtetl death rates were 100%I'll just take your word for it
>>519361884Stru faggot. You nor anyone you know died in the “holocaust”. It was all dumb euroaches killing each other and crying with their begging bowl out.
>>519364145Communism wasnt as bad as they painted it. Poles never lived better than in communist Poland. Illiteracy was wiped out in a decade, infant mortality dropped from 200/1000 in the 2nd Republic to near zero by the end of the PRL. Young couples got free apartments from the state, no unemployment, no banks, no usury. Poland was fully self-sufficient, producing everything locally, from screws to computers. Poles spun antisemitic fairy tales about bolshevik Jews running communist Poland, but thats bullshit. Communist Poland was the peak of Polish culture, development, economic independence, military strength and high birth rates. Todays capitalist Poland is a coffin compared to the PRL.
>>519362304>it was assimilatedSo, grandpa was a kapo in the camp?
>>519365168My family never seen any camps.
>>519364845The funniest thing is that Polands entire modern national identity is built on fetishizing and idealizing the Second Polish Republic. But in reality, it was a goddamn shithole. The PRL was better than the Second Republic in literally every way. Still, after 1989, all the street names honoring PRL heroes and builders were changed to glorify some Sanation fuck-ups responsible for the II RP crushing poverty and the national catastrophe: over 5 million citizens murdered due to idiotic foreign policy.
>>519364036Hehehe creating an egregore bason on autism, pranks, mishief, memes and gooning (most powerful)
>>519365256Some of my family got sent to camps, but they didn't like it there, so they went home.
>>519361884fuck off kike
Repeat after me>Polish death camps
>>519367198>vidrelI did check the census numbers and hilariously enough, in germany in the 30s there's basically an 8 year gap in the jew countand out the other side of it, jews in germany were said to have multiplied at an 11x rate while the rest of the place multiplied at 2.5xtotally believable
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>>519363924He said why in the OP you illiterate dalit
>>519361884Fuck off, you deserve to be really genocided you dumb pollack.>>whats the most dangerous job in poland?Driving shotgun in the garbage truckFuck you, and fucking die. Take your lies and bullshit to isreal you gay ass fag
>>519362103I always heard about portuguese receiving the expelled jews in 1492, didn't know they themselves expelled them again just a few years later
>>519361884Why would you say this?? Now I definitely don’t believe the holohoax happened :(
>>519361884>the holocaust was real!>that my family was unharmed and never witnessed suh a thing is proof!Schizo kike faggot
>>519367198When it comes to Holocaust in Poland, Poles are the ultimate dindus you can imagine. According to the Polish narrative, 100% of Poles were either innocent victims or heroic saviors of Jews, risking death to help them. While its true the Germans imposed the death penalty for aiding Jews in occupied Poland, those stories of supposedly widespread help are bullshit. Way more Poles snitched on Jews to the Gestapo than hid them, and even those who did hide Jews rarely did it for free. xD
>>519363245>the same retarded stubborness that comes from cultic belief systemsof course that could never describe yourself, that would just be silly
>>519367467>>519367560a LOT of jews moved out of the area before the war and carried on having lots of kids in their new home countries. im not saying that 6 million is the true number but its certainly not impossible that lots and lots of new jews were born during that 15 year period. its even likely precisely because they new that many were being killed, since they would want to fight back about the determined effort to kill them off.>>519367652i think you simply missed my point.>>519368673ive seen the quality of what deniers have to offer and it seems similar to the group i mentioned. its all retarded crap like muh wooden doors. pathetic.
>>519366232its amazing normies believe these ridiculous caricatures. In reality, I could see kikes treating some german child that way then claiming it was the reverse when beaten for it.
>>519365256they will
>>519369016Yes ofc you as a jew go to a country that openly hates jews and bring forth lots of children
>>519369016at some point you will have to ask yourself what drove a leadership possessing an average IQ of 130 to conclude that the only way to deal with you was to exterminate you.
>>519369358so countries that hated jews allowed lots of jews to move there? interesting.>>519369454leftists wipe out anyone they dont like. look at China, USSR, Cambodia etc etc. it doesn't have to make sense, it just has to result in lots of death.
>>519362037Hitler and Herzl's political platforms are basically identical.
>>519369345Slim chance. Nobody knows about our heritage except of closest relatives. It is sort of family secret. Even if Jews get genocided all over again, my family would be absolutely safe. Much worse if Poles get genocided, then it would be a problem xD
>>519363245Sure thing jew
>>519368292shame they didnt snitch on you
>>5193694541 retarded lunatic who though both communism and capitalism were jewish and because the ussr was killing parasites and degenerates he was afraid communists would kill him for his parasitism to try to turn Germany into some art project(city of Germania)If anything is to be learned from WW2 is how pathetic the German nation actually is. Because they are so neurotic and antisocial all you have to do is shout at them with confidence and they will listen to you like dogs. You can see how fast they abandoned their identity in the US after WW1 as a great exampleIf there was justice after WW2 there would be no Germany. Just a western Russian outpost in central europe
>>519369857that is a damn shame. i hope to see kino drone footage from u
>>519369954>some lied so all liedgreat logic
>>519361884To be "Jewish" is to be converts to the Talmudic religion, you are not a "race" or specific ethnicity. You are Polish people and Khazars and Arabs and others that converted to Phariseeic Talmudism, a synagogue of Satan. It's a bullshit made up serpent religion that invents humanist nonsense commentary about the Christian Old and New Testament. I'm not telling you this to mock you, I'm telling you that your religious ideology brainwashed you with a lot of garbage. No, you are not doomed to be a "Jew" if your mother was "Jewish", all that matriarchal and other stuff is not from Moses or the Old Testament, all that is Talmudic inventions. It is a devilish subversive spirit, a serpentine mentality. A congregation of liars (1John 2:22) and deceivers, a dangerous cult that brainwashes their low level members with their ideological lies. If you don't want to be "persecuted" or hated, just stop being a "Jew", it is a lying spirit mentality (1John 2:22). It is a multi-ethnic congregation and it is most certainly not the ancient Israelites. The only way for you to have an indication that you might be an Israelite is to be a Christian, hearing the calling of the God of Israel Jesus Christ. Christianity is the only indication of true Israel according to the Old and New Testament, the New Covenant that is for the last 2000 years in Christian Europe, the true Israelites. Your synagogue is an indication of the seed of the serpent (Genesis 3:15). You are currently in a satanic cult, and you need to get out of that brainwashing and come to Jesus, the truth, if you want to save your soul. If you can't do that, then that just means that you are really not of God, you are not an Israelite, you don't hear the voice of the Lord God of Israel which is Jesus Christ (John 10:26-27, cf: Ezekiel 34:11-12; 34:30-31) and you really are as Jesus says "of your father the devil" (John 8:44).
>>519362103Ahhh it is an infestation similar to rats. Raus! Raus! Raus!
>>519363245The Holocaust obviously happend. The Einsatzgruppen kept meticulous records of the death squads working on the eastern front What's open to debate is the number that died in the camps, and perhaps even if there was the full bore extermination program in the camps that is claimed - there isn't the same documentary evidence for that, and the logistics for the six million seem impossible tbqhwyBut there was definitely a genocide - anyone denying the Nazis massacred a lot of people isnt serious
>>519370160>1 retarded lunaticat some point you will have to come to terms with the fact that hundreds of jurisdictions over 2 thousand years saw you in the same light. >If there was justice after WW2 there would be no Germanyspoken like a true kike, whose people possessed a desire to destroy germany and germans long before germany finally fought back. You deserved the holocaust, and you will deserve the next one that sees the remaining 14 million of you burned alive from the inside out.
>>519370260My family is anti-clerical and i am an atheist. If i took old documents, birth certificates and old photos from my grandparents drawer and show them to rabbinical court, they would probably say i am a Jew, despite the fact that we dont celebrate any Jewish holidays and none of us considers themselves Jewish. Last people in our family who still followed judaism rules and rituals were great-grandparents.
>>519369016>ive seen the quality of what deniers have to offer and it seems similar to the group i mentioned. its all retarded crap like muh wooden doors. pathetic.Care to explain why myths like lampshades and soap and electric floors persist to this day or do you truly believe that there is no orthodox holocaust dogma on your side?
>>519370437>What's open to debate is the number that died in the camps,thats as far as i can go from what ive read. but its still almost certainly the case that there was a determined system of death camps that murdered several million via a few different methods. the objections to the logistics which ive seen are generally not engaging with the actual systems used, but a strawman version designed to make it seem impossible. thats what ive seen so far.
>>519368292cool story kacap trash
>>519371032>myths like lampshades and soap and electric floorsbut who started these myths in the first place? at least for the soap thing, there is a sliver of truth to it, and its probably just retarded mainstream media and/or the whispers game that made more of it than there ever was.
>>519361884another pedorussian trash making up shit an pretending to be Polish
>>519361884>>519362304>>519363773Bad guys won WW2Holocaust is a mythHitler was a good guy
>>519370260>doomed to be Jewish if your mother is Jewish. Nobody really talks about that part of it and it’s the funniest part. Why would a society develop an inheritance system based on the mother rather than on the father like we have? One obvious reason is if you can’t be sure who the father is. You know it’s the mothers child because you can watch it come out of her body. And for an entire people to adopt a matrilineal system it means it was a severe and prevalent problem. But what’s more funny isn’t just that they have matrilineal inheritance, but that membership of the tribe was matrilineal. That doesn’t just mean that Jewish women are whores and you can’t tell which Jewish man is the father. It means Jewish women are whores and you can’t tell if the father even is Jewish. The Jewish matrilineal system is an adaptive response to historic and widespread and continuous cuckolding of Jewish men by gentiles. That’s why you have to have a Jewish mother lol.
>>519370941How's live in the hivlands? How much glue did you sniff today?
>>519367198Repeat after meRUSSNIGGERS ARE SUBHUMAN TRASH
>>519370437EZ might have exaugurated their numbers a few times to make it seem like they were doing a better job than they were. I think some villages they claimed to have killed 5-10k people only had 1-2k jews living there. Even the camp commanders were competing over how many jews they could kill and viewed it as an honor.Deportation numbers is the most we can go by for the camps.>>519370474Not a jew and don't really care what happens to them any more than what I care what happened to the germans. but go ahead and try to exterminate them again, see how the rest of the world will deal with you
>>519371231jew soap is just rehashed ww1 propagandahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Corpse_Factory
>>519366629>The PRL was better than the Second Republic in literally every way.Why are you biedraussian KGB shill always so obviousWhat a stupid subhuman trash, you can't even shill realistically
>>519369645Your reading comprehension is either poor, or you are purposefully missing his point as a rhetorical technique. I’m sure we’ll find out which is the case shortly. The German is reiterating your point that “they moved elsewhere and had kids” because it is a ridiculous assumption to make regarding a total war where no other affected population saw increase growth, especially considering your claim thay Germany systematically genocides Jews continent wide. This was done in hopes that you might realize the silliness of your argument on your own. Thus, reinforcing his own argument that Jews could not have been genocide en masse because their population confusingly increased during the greatest time of mass death in Europe since the Black Death.
>>519371231https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn616417It's towards the endNot exactly a myth when those things were there in the first place. Just not a widespread state program, must have just been a few German lunatics working on their own for their own experiments.
>>519364845Assfuckians had free AIDS and buttsex
>>519361884It should've been higher.
>>519366232A fictional movie from a made up script.But, being fed bullshit like this, it is easy to see why American Jews seethe with fury inside just at the sight of any Christian American in their vicinity, and plot retribution against people they have never before met.
>>519361884So what they saw firsthand were Germans passing them by, ignoring them according to you, but what they heard is that they massacred everybody in Ukraine and in the shitholes.Is that right?
>>519370236>You're really being obtuse now. I refuse to believe that you do not understand the argument. If you can dismiss information contrary to your beliefs because you find it ridiculous, who are you to claim that others ought to believe what you believe despite numerous cases exposing you side as not just ridiculous, but verifiably untrue?
>>519361884Lol at the new JIDF shilling dropped today.Appeals to empathy no longer work. Its all disgusting manipulation.
Did you know Udmurt Eľkun had a significant number of Jews who created their own dialect of Yiddish called Udmurtish? Interests me as a conlanger!
Holohoax credit ran out as soon as the kikes decided to do the very thing they spent 80 years warning against. Whether it happened or not (it didn't) doesn't even matter anymore. If the jews can't "remember the holocaust" then why the fuck should anyone else have to?
>>519372013Yup. My family survived post-1941 German invasion and they survived 1939 soviet invasion as well.
>>519370160>wooden doors on a gas chamber is in no way ridiculous >please allow me to introduce my own fan fiction into the argument
>>519361884Holocaust never happened. Maybe a few hundred thousand died from starvation/disease by end of war, but that's it. Also jews would have deserved a real holocaust, and one day they will, well maybe not enjoy it, but every non-jew will enjoy it.
>>519372287>wooden doorsAnd Hitler had 1 testicle and was 1/4 Jewish.If you want to lie we can lie too faggot
>>519372277did they survive assrape in the pedorussian army
>>519371231>but who started these myths in the first place? Cui bono? Not the Germans at least for the soap thing, there is a sliver of truth to it, Source?and its probably just retarded mainstream media and/or the whispers game that made more of it than there ever was.>probablypoor showing today
>>519367862Portugueses were so fucking based you have no idea
>>519371143>almost certainly
>>519371660Read this then, since you seem to want honest informationhttp://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2017/05/rebutting-twitter-denial-most-popular.html#worldalmanacinb4 NOOOO I WONT READ THATT!!!!!!
>>519369313someone posted this earlier that matches your accord well
>>519371664thats what i was referring to >>519372605>Source?see>>519371664how do you not know this? maybe because you rely on meme pics like flat earthers do.
>>519361884I'm glad your family made it, you fucking kike.Met a Polish jew from the US, my guy is the founder of a Fortune 500 company, retired in his mid-late 70's.He invited me to the US, offered to host and feed me during my stay and he wanted me to work for his company. I said that if things go so bad that I'll need to migrate I'll give him a call.Some of you kikes are swell guys.
>>519361884they're lying the holocaust never happened
>>519371664>>519372763>propaganda film>in a show trial>made by the Soviet Union sure sure
>>519361884nobody here is denying the holocaustwe just don't care
>>519361884>OP is a faggot
>>519372909thats hardly the full storyhttp://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2017/11/nazi-shrunken-heads-human-skin.html#humansoap
>>519366232What movie is that clip from?Google wants to say The Plot Against America but it looks like that is in France?Anyone?
>>519372669You have not address a single point made by anyone in this thread. Regardless that blog has no information that I have not seen before and does not explain how “death tolls” have been reduced in nearly every area they could, yet the 6 million number has not changed.
>>519373025I'm a holocaust denier. Real count is around 200k executions for political reasons with another about 100k due to starvation and typhus during the late stages of the war.
>>519373025The only people here not denying the holocaust are jews. It never happened.
>>519361884So your proof that something happened is your personal example of nothing happened. Yet anotger "miracle". Cool story bro.
>>519372451You have been lying this whole time, it comes as easy as breathing to you. I’m not the one supposing and probablying and creating grand unverifiable narratives.
>>519373205that blog post certainly addresses the fake population numbers claimed in some denier memes, you should read it and not just try to change the subject.
>>519373427It is truly a miracle that we survived. Jews in todays Western Ukraine were mass murdered in executions by German army, especially SS troops and local collaborants. My family barely managed to escape from Ukrainian nationalist bandits in 1943.
>>51937314940 beheaded babies next? You’ve been recycling your atrocity propaganda for hundreds of years now.
Here is my conlang. Kürpöć = BrickYur = SnowArıslan = LionEney = MotherKöşmen = RutabagaUkśo = MoneyHuźo = LandownerUlmo = Apple Śiľ = WindTav = GratefulnessSöd = MilkEtey = FatherVur = InsideBuldır = Younger SisterBıtım = AllKaćaka = GoatIrik = FreedomŚaśka = FlowerHır = SteppeŚemöś = FruitGumbi = MushroomŚurlo = SickleUro = FootHırgı = FalconYaľ = CountryHo = HumanDźılhe = Language
>>519373653you can see how they think though - if a few holocaust accounts were lies then ALL such accounts are lies; if some people escaped the persecution of jews then there was NO persecution of jews. its not rational at all.
>>519373595You yourself admitted that the jewish population increased during the war. That is a ridiculous claim that you have yet to sufficiently address.
>>519361884>can believe 6 million died this wayThey didn't
>>519361884Holy shit demonic look
>>519373853like the deniers, i made the mistake of trusting a piece of information that was contained in a denier meme. I should have checked that out before responding to it. let that be a lesson to all of us
>>519373789>I reject all anti establishment holocaust narratives because I find some ridiculous.>you, goyim, must believe my claims despite the majority being ridiculous You can’t help but resort to your tried and true rhetoric can you? Talmudism has done a number on your people.
>>519373853Demographically the U.S. population exploded with the rise of Jewish immigration and their birthrate during the interwar years.
>>519361884>I noticed a lot of Holocaust-denying crap popping up here, so I decided to share my family story.And I did not read any further, cool story, or sorry that happened moishe
>>519374031where do you get the idea i reject everything? ive already said that the 6 mill number is likely not accurate. its funny that you've tried to cast me as violating my own stated logical standard based on absolutely nothing, and in doing so have only continued doing what i described. thats very funny.
I like my conlang... Not just jibber jabber Slavo-Latin like Esperanto but with sovl.
>>519361884wow a real kike in poland? you should move to israel like the rest of your genetic filth
>>519373853Censuses don't show a sharp drop in Jewish population in some Axis-occupied countries the number increased.During WW2 Romanians evacuated the jews of Odessa to Romania while sieging the city and did not start assault on the city until most jews were out.Today they claim they were expulsed from the city by the Romanian Army instead of being kept safe. They even go as far as to make claims that the Romanian Army stuffed jews in warehouses and burnt them alive in Odessa after taking the city.
>>519361884(forensic data lacking)
>>519366232Unfathomably based.
>>519361884Do you have a cute sister?
>>519374908Nope. I am the only child.
>>519362304>family was Jewish>noone laid hand on them>survived the war just fine>I can believe 6 million died like thiskek
>>519361884>death rates were 100%totally believablelike last time
>>519375414Harry Jewdini
>>519361884Nobody cares.OK This time for real, Belson Was A Gashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMqGj3z-5XY
>>519375324he already described how they survived - by being unnoticed. if no one knew they were jews then no one could inform on them.
>>519375414There were plenty of scammers in the States trying to latch onto the Holocaust for personal gain through interviews and such, even though neither they nor their families lived in Europe during the war. You gotta separate the wheat from the chaff.
>>5193757216million is actually a lot of chaff to burn off
>>519376053There were also cases of genuine Holocaust survivors, like my relatives, who for various reasons exaggerated what happened to them during war. Take Jerzy Kosinski, fe. The Polish-Jewish writer, born in Lodz in 1933, survived the Holocaust by being hidden with Polish peasants. He spun his debut novel "The Painted Bird" as semi-autobiographical: a kid wandering Eastern Europe, enduring rapes, murders and cruelty from catholic Poles. It became a Holocaust lit classic, praised by Elie Wiesel. But in 1982, the American media exposed it as mostly fiction: Kosinski was protected by his parents, not abandoned and all the horrors were invented by his imagination. He denied it was memoir but milked the survivor angle for fame and sales anyway. Total literary scam xD
>>519376824people pull this shit all the time. there have been several cases. i remember one from back in the 90's when a series of iraq war autobiographies came out from a few guys out of the same unit who were all captured on the same operation. there were plenty of accusations of fakery and lying between those guys, and of making things sound worse and harder than they actually were. anything to sell a book or support your own self image, stuff like that.
>>519377481Almost all Jews affected by the Holocaust never got to tell their story because they were murdered. Holocaust survivors are a unique group. I believe most genuinely endured the horrors they describe, but you cant rule out a tiny percentage being frauds for profit. The Holocaust has been heavily commercialized by Hollywood. My family are survivors too, but i am dead honest, our story wasnt much different from the Polish catholics in those regions. It makes us exceptional.
>>519378115>a tiny percentage being frauds for profit.thats all it is, for sure. to be honest ive not even looked into the ones that the deniers bring forth as examples of fakery but it would be interesting to see exactly what has come out about their stories.
>>519361884>I can believe 6 million died this wayWhy are you minimising the slaughter of 6 billion Jews during WW2?
>>519361884Didn't read, jews are demons.
>>519380760This white race stuff is characteristic only of the US. Some American Jews might be obsessed with it, but Jews living elsewhere are not necessarily so. Israel is one of the most racially diverse countries in the world.
>>519381277Right because Hitler got most of the jews out of Europe so you guys have it easier.
>>519361884kys
>>519373203A TV Show called Paris Police.
>>519361884I believe your story. Only because about 10 years ago when I was in my 20's there was old ass German woman in my neighbourhood I got talking to one time, she wasn't Jewish herself but she had neighbours in Germany who were. She was just a girl at the time but she vividly recalls watching them taken from their homes, one family in particular their house started to stink like rot. Tl;Dr jew family committed suicide and infanticide of their own kids to avoid being sent to the camps. Was it Six million Jews killed? I don't know. Was there death camps baking these Jews every day and night using zyklon B gas or whatever? No clue. But I do think it was compelling to hear what had happened through a German woman non Jew at that who was there at the time describe to me that there was a Gestapo and they did take Jews away somewhere, and that 'somewhere' was dire enough that one family thought death by suicide was preferable. Anyway I hate the topic of the holocaust because whether it's true or false, what's true is it was 80+ years ago, almost a century old, and it's STILL being used for political leverage. Either by Zionists or by their detractors. Whatever truth there is about it has long since been snuffed out by political bullshit.
