In Europe, Italians are considered high class people with S tier fashion brands, cars and food. In USA, Italians are seen as Mexican tier, non - whites that came here to work the shit jobs (construction, car mechanic, shoe shiner)
>>519378814italians are cool pepole
I don't understand why northern Italians want to share a country with southern Italians.
>>519378905>T. First gen Italian expat in Croatia
We got a lot of Sicilians. That's how. Still above Mexicans.
>>519378814>euroaches investigated themselves and found they’re s-tierLmao stfu incel. Euroaches are worthless without their gibsmedat economics and begging bowl socialism
What's la creatura up Northwest supposed to mean?I had a girl here gush about going to Italy and wanting to meet a(tall and blond, ofc)n Italian guy.
>>519378985maybe because of slop food like why any country would keep türks
>>519378905But very retarded
>>519379053We got calabrese, neapolitans and sicilians. But the difference between north and south is not that people think. And the south has more germanic blood thanks to norman conquest.
I bet most euros only go into the northern part of the country just so they can say they have been to Italy. I did that in Mexico.
>>519379166Why do they want that?
>>519379221>south has more germanic blood thanks to norman conquest.Cope hard brown boy.
>>519378905They're a bunch of overgrown children who just want to be treated special. They're not high class, they're middle class. They're not better than anyone else, they're just like everyone else. They're not more interesting, they're just normal people.
>>519379355Unless you are tyrol, difference between north and south is minimal
>>519378814>In Europe, Italians are considered high class people with S tier fashion brands, cars and food.They are? I always looked at them as Greece 2.0
>>519379967I hear they're very popular with british women
>>519378814Think about those who went to your country, if they had a good life in italy they would stay here wouldn't they?
what is la luce spenta doing in northern italy?
>>519378814We brought in southern ItaliansNorthern Italy is rich, but its turned into a small Chinese colony
>>519380234Maybe because they travel through there to get to France? I'm not sure.
>In Europe, Italians are considered high class peopleuhh they are considered basement dwelling baristas but ok
>>519378814the U.S recieved southern Italian immigrants is why
>>519380244Difference is minimal . Here are lombardians
>>519378986nope just a canadian that abandoned canada after he made it big on stonks, italians are just fun little joker guys i like betting on dog races with them!
>>519379967https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece%E2%80%93Italy_relations>Greeks and Italians often exchange the phrase "una faccia, una razza", meaning "one face, one race"
>>519379360>t. irish american
>>519380045Have you seen them? There's a reason we colonised the globe.
>>519378985The 2nd greatest crime of Garibaldi was to steal a part of Africa & its crown jewel (Napoli).The greatest crime of his was not to expel the inhabitants to Tunisia.The greatest crime of post-Mussolini's Italy was reversal of Opzioni Alto Adige.>>519378814> In USA, Italians are seen as Mexican tierEveryone but white Liberals in New England are Mexican tier at best in the US.
America only has the brown southern italians.
>>519380732I have nothing against either, I just don't view them as high class.
>>519380929Their cars, fashion brands, high end dining are second to none. They are very high class people with S tier taste in art.
>>519380929High class is imprescice language. Ive talked to 2 germans before and they spoke about italians as cultured and as havinga flair for the arts and emotions. I wouldnt say thats exactly high class.
>>519379432Why would you attach an image directly contradicting your own post?
>>519378814Northern Italy is S tier R-1b civilization. Beautiful climate, best food (parma ham, Parmesan, barolo), people understand how to drive, nice supermarkets and shops. As soon as you go south of Rome, Italy becomes a garbanzo bean munching third world country.
>>519381509I wouldn't put much stock into R1b, Spain is extremely R1b and they aren't white either.
>>519380749It really is funny how much the Irish in America hate Italians. It just permeates out from their pores. I mean, I hate these grease monkey terrones too, but I don't choose to live around them.
>>519381509
>>519381679Northern Spain is the nice part of Spain and it's extremely White. I am genetically Anglo/Scottish and Spics always tried to speak to me in Spanish in places like San Sebastian and Gijon.
>>519378814Return Southern Tyrol
>>519381849Found the "divide and conquer" shitskin. You're not fooling anyone, Pedro.
>>519381509>people understand how to driveMaybe compared to the Slavs or the Nafris or to the Mexicans that you have there, from Western and South Europe they are only above the Portuguese.
/pol/ shitskins always invade these threads trying to convince you that Spain, Portugal, and Italy are brown like them.
>>519378814>In Europe, Italians are consideredgypsie manlets
>>519378814Italians enjoy an extremely powerful reputation based on aggressive marketing pushes that billed them as "la dolce vita bella amore" fun country, when in reality it is a land of treachery, cruelty, and people who you really don't wanna fuck around with. I respect the Italian people, but it is a respect based on fear, not admiration. They'll kill ya in a second (not all some are normal ofc). Harsh country where people have had to fight to survive throughout their history, from days of rome up to today.
>>519382027what's wrong with spaguetti
Eurofags are cringe
Italians are not aryan nor whiteIndians are aryan and white-tier
>>519378814>In USA, Italians are seen as Mexican tier, non - whites that came here to work the shit jobs (construction, car mechanic, shoe shiner)maybe 100 years ago, times changelots of Italians are lawyers, doctors, work in finance, stockbrokers, etc.
>>519382027Northern Italians are Spek and risotto munchers.
>>519382100When are you going to get over your vacation
>>519382142Lots of Indians are doctors, work in technology, CEOs, etc.South Asian people are aryan
>>519379166Vespa should be in Ligury though.It's from Genova.
>>519382138One of my Indian friends thinks he is African. So you're wrong.
>519378814Posted it again awardhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/europe%20italians%20are%20seen%20USA/type/op/
>>519382354Cope harderIndia is whiter and more aryan than Italy
>>519381881Franco was northern spanish and he looked like a mexican
>>519378814man, i fucking love these threads. americoons “””schooling””” evropeans on subjects so above their pay grade, that it could be considered inviting a low-level janitor to speak at a quantum mechanics conference: the country who’s such a mix - a mystery meat - that they have been forced to condense the diverse beauty of european ethnicities to the broader term possible — “white”. the country that defines latino mestizos and middle easterners as “white”. you, average americoon, who cannot trace your ancestry further back than your grandparents, and who ruin anything that is pure and noble, DARE to lecture US?
>>519380863But why did he do that
>>519382415>cope harder saarSorry dude, but a lot of Indians want to be black, they don't like being white.
>>519382677You'll never be aryan, you ShitalianSuperior south asian genetics have Aryan DNA
>>519382859You sound like a very insecure "brownpipo" kek.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYIpEkIW0eM
>>519382473B A S E D V I K I N G
>>519382673Because the discount Germ**s (Austrians) had gotten uppity & thought they could rule Northern Italy directly.God bless Garibaldi & other Risorgimento patriots, but they should have though further than just pushing discount Germ**s out of our lands.For anons who are curious why bunch of North Italians went to Brazil / Argentina, & South Italians ended up in North America.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9ndkrCkUgs
>>519378814> In Europe, Italians are considered high class peopleonly a fucking dumbed down burger can be so fucking wrong. america is a true shithole country.
>>519378814>In Europe, Italians are considered high class people with S tier fashion brands, cars and food. kek, murican knowledge . no they are not lol. italian car brands are a laughing stock in europe.
>>519382995South Asian people have pride and self respect and aryan DNAYou're insecure of how brown you are, Italian. You'll never be as white as South Asian people
Indian people are aryan and racially superior to Italian people
>>519382995Ive seen it firsthand. Its really weird when some jeet rocks up dressed like a wigger from the 2000s but you can instantly tell its an Indian. Its the same kind of uncanny feeling your brain gets when you see a troon.The way they present themselves doesnt fit reality and it itches the brain
>>519378814Odio gli italiani, sono una razza degenerata e marrone.
>>519379129It’s a province that’s ethnically German but somehow ended up under Italy’s control because of European treaty shenanigans, they speak kraut and eat nasty kraut food and everything. All other Italians are swarthy knuckling nigger apes from the sweaty black jungles of mezzogiorno.
>>519384143This thread wasn't even about jeets until you started flooding it with poo.
>>519379053You’re not Italian, you’re a sixth generation brown mutt. But that’s still better than being Italian so congrats.
>>519384143Enjoy beef jeet
italy is based for standing up to islam. They are obviously inferior compared to many northern europian but they’re still based. Ww3 islam vs rest
>>519378814>In Europe, Italians are considered high class people with S tier fashion brands, cars and food.FUCKING KEK!Delusional amerimutts.
>>519384927It's under Italy's control because it's on their side of the mountains, genius. And northern wops are all White. I can tell you've never been there.Only very brown creatures says shit like this. You are by far the least White person in this thread, even browner than the jeet who's flooding it with shit about his own people.
>>519385159Why are you so mad nigger lol
>>519378814They sent all the shitalians to your country and left us the cool ones.
>>519378814Dagos, wops, spics, all the same to me
>>519385159>northern wops are all WhiteFalse. No Italians are whiteIndians are white-tier and have aryan DNA
>>519384927Tiroleans in Alto Adige are just wanna-be discount Germ**s - the Germ**s from north of Southern Bayern can't understand jackshit what they say (those Tiroleans in this province can't even understand each other when it comes to different sides of this province's valleys).> All other Italians are swarthySpoken like true Mexicano
>>519378905They are cool until they ask to gib back Istria and Dalmatia
>>519385373You brownpipo are all the same.
>>519379432Sardinian chic!
>>519378814Only Calabeaners and Shitcilians have that reputation in America and rightly so. It’s just that most people don’t know the difference. The rest of Italy is fine. Please consult the map
>>519386228What is that map about?
>>519378814>In Europe, Italians are considered high class people with S tier fashion brands, cars and foodItaly is just a nepotistic anti-meritocratic corrupt narcissistc nation.
>>519386228>The rest of Italy is fineNo. All Italians are lazy shitskinsSouth Asian people, in comparison, are intelligent and aryan
>>519382113Everything
>>519382431Or, you know, some Mexicans look Spanish. But I suppose simple reasoning is beyond you.
>>519382127Extremely based, American deistic values are way better and more based than Christian collectivist garbage. Thanks to Christian values now all European leaders are terrorist supporters!
>>519386424Ethnic map of Italy
>>519386487Fucking Jeet
>>519385111Beef is so fucking healthy man. I don't get why Hindus deprive themselves of such delicacy. By going against his taste buds one insults his ancestors who have evolved taste buds to discern what is healthy and nutritious (meat) to what is unhealthy and toxic (vegetables).
>>519378985yeah well... as a northern italian idk what to say. i like the idea of a united italy but i'm getting pretty sick and tired of the niggertry in the south. central italianiggers are fine. maybe we need a new italy with just northern italy, central italy, corsica, and sardegna
>>519378905i fucking love Italian Porn fr
>>519387062Terroni are just a subspecie of Italians who still have the sandnigger inside them from the time the Arabs conquered them.
>>519379432northern italian men dont look liek the picture provided. at all. facial structure is completely off. for all of the regions in fact
>>519378985They don’t. The unified Italy and have been bitching about it ever since. Multiple prominent separatist and regionalist organizations. They’re retarded. They could’ve ended unification at Tuscany, Rome, or even Molise but they didn’t, THEY wanted to take over the entire peninsula plus Sicily and Sardinia and Corsica. That’s why I can’t feel much sympathy for them being dragged down by the south. If you didn’t know the history of the Risorgimento, you’d think it was the South that forced the North into a union and not the other way around based on how Northerners whine.
>>519387062Did you know when a bunch of italians got lynched in the south, one of them was northern italian? Vanzetti was from Piedmont. All the same to anglo saxons.
>>519378814That's because Europe deals with northern Italians and America deals with southern Italians.Below the Po, they're all terroni
>>519387298pure northern italian man. Darker than the average mexican.
>>519387673nigger i'm northern italian and i look in the mirror and i look like a weird german eastern european mutt with hints of mediterranean . my parents are pale white as paper. northern italians can look like picrel but in general we don't look like that. we look like vaguely ambiguous european people
>>519387062>central italianiggers are fine. maybe we need a new italy with just northern italy, central italy, corsica, and sardegnaThis. Let Sicily and Calabria be its own Mediterranean oriented country, they will finally feel the pressure to institute serious social and economic reforms because they North won’t bail them out. Then they can focus on eradicating corruption and building an economy centered on tourism and uhh maybe fucking wine or something idk. Fish pizza. They can attract investment and migration from Americans of Italian descent since so many of them are Sicilian and Calabrian. Maybe even join a union with Malta. See picrel
>>519378814I'm in a multinational. I work with Italians, Spaniards, Frenchoids and others. Spaniards are loud overly extroverted homosexuals who are constantly talking about something going up someone's ashole, Italians are effeminate, incredibly rude and have a hard time following instructions, the French come off as pretentious and passive aggressiveBonus: Germans are dense autistic knuckle heads who can't direct a straight forward email that isn't confusing, and act like they're doing everyone a favour by existing.Truly insane, my favourite so far have been the British I've worked with. Zero issues. I know I can count on them to be polite and to the point, and the humour is fitting
>>519378814>In USA, ItaliansMostly Sicilians. Sicilians are like the niggers of Italy.
>>519387062>>519387965Alternatively, borders could look like this, so that Sicily and Calabria have at least some head start in economic development
>>519378814That's a stupid take. It's not a monolith, and there's a large population of white Italians that speak Italian, practice their culture, etc. I'm not sure where you're getting this idea from.
>>519387380>sacco and vanzettithey taught this in school when they were teaching about anti-italian discrimination bullshit. teachers were kvetching about how italians were always being discriminiated. i was always like "they probably deserved it"
ALEX PATPO FATTORINO DELIVEROO PISTOIA
>>519388263That could have been you or your ancestor. Basically someone shot a sheriff and killed him, the local hicks used this as an excuse to round up a bunch of italians and lynch them. Despite having zero proof. Who knows who actually shot the guy. Stuff like this simply didn't happen to german, austrian, dutch, danish, scottish immigrants.
>>519388347
>>519387965yeah the whole south needs to be a thing with napoli. also, idk why the blue and grey are highlighted b/c they ain't going nowhere
>>519378814>In Europe, Italians are considered high class peoplewho told you that?>In USA, Italians are seen as Mexican tierBy whom? Somalis? Guatemalans? You?
>>519388529i'm talking about the italains in general with their committing of violence and the mob. the lynch mob in the south was obviously wrong
>>519380727>dog racesdon't tell me you put Albanians to run around
>>519388017American here.The French are at least open to putting one in for the team at least. If a project will fail, I‘d not be surprised to see the French staying late to save it. Any sort of high responsibility in their hands and I‘d expect shit to start rolling downwards though.The Spanish are sassy as fuck and do have a chip on their shoulders.The Portuguese were cool albeit too laid back at times. Only have had limited experience and they were usually senior.Germans are a real pain in the ass. Great, superb, when they actually know what needs to be done and things are somehow on schedule, but otherwise absolutely catastrophic.Haven’t worked with Italians really, funnily enough. I will say that I always really enjoyed my vacations there though.Brits, while great many ways, are often too haughty and calculative. They rest on their laurels and will ignore a storm potentially brewing. Good lads but of enough upper management is them then I‘d start to sweat.I don’t have a huge amount of experience though. So, grain of salt.
>>519378814>milano black holeyeaahh...
>>519378814>In Europe, Italians are considered high class peopleThey literally had a gypsy queen at mote negro
>>519388728>idk why the blue and grey are highlighted b/c they ain't going nowhereTyrol is German and has been for like 1000 years, while Aosta is predominantly Arpitan, like the “French” in Switzerland and eastern France. My logic is that, if you’re going to separate from the South due to fundamental cultural differences, might as well give these tiny small little ethnic enclaves their freedom to be with their own people since they’re different. Italy wouldn’t lose anything of significance by giving them up and it would also be seen as the ultimate goodwill gesture by its neighbors.
>>519387062>and SardegnaCan't you just leave us the fuck alone for once?
>>519389426Do you want independence or something? Perhaps an independent country that includes both Sardinia and Corsica?
>>519389426no you're coming with us bitchboy
>>519380203Why did they build Europe’s largest oil refinery or something right near the city of Taranto, within visible distance from the old city once inhabited by Greek philosophers? Literally third world tier behavior.
>>519378814Italians that went to the US came from southern Italy, hence their complexion and low status. Italians that went to South America today form the elite of those countries. Those are the same breed the today inhabit Italy from Rome and above.But an American cannot be expected to comprehend that level of nuance. >/thread
>>519389361>might as well give these tiny small little ethnic enclaves their freedom to be with their own people since they’re differentif this were to happen, france would have to give nizza back. and don't even THINK we're giving shit back to austia so long as the majority of schoolchildren in vienna are muslim. would we get ticino and grigioni? no? then no.
>>519389248>mote negroThe what now?
>>519389846Retard, multiple Americans have pointed this out already in the thread. Also, you’re wrong. There are a lot of Central and Northern Italians here as well. I have a friend whose family is from Udine, I am predominantly Old Stock British but I’m 1/8th Italian, my ancestors come from Molise and Milan. Arrogant nigger.
>>519389846Topkek.How about the general impression of Turks from the Gastarbeiter class?Any German that hasn’t met the minority of educated Beyaz Turks that fled in the 80s would have an incredibly slanted view of what a Turk can be.Tip: 75%+ haven’t
>>519387313Yeah but why did they
>>519390073yes a lot are from genova, for example, too. friuli, and piedmont too. the idea that it's exclusively suthren italian is simply not true. like 60% maybe
>>519389487>Sardinia and CorsicaThen we'd have to fix Corsica through mass incarceration while stopping boomer hippies from getting us annexed by Angola, all that for a 50% increase in population of mutts, unless it's a confederacy it ain't worth it, we'd just get an upside down Italy with the population of a city.>>519389592Oh well, guess it's armoured van assaults until you get completely negrified and collapse like the last four or five mutt invaders.
>>519389872Nice is Occitan tho. Just like how Aosta is Arpitan. Just make an independent Arpitan country if you don’t want France to have it, then give Occitan areas independence.
>>519389361>>519389872Hey, wignats in drag... JewEU is planned to become a federation of regions soon, no more countries no more nations. All done by US globalist kikes who rule EU. So no, no Italy no Austria no nothing, just, as some other famous Romanian poster said, economic zone 146, 157 and 186.Capisci?
>>519390250They wanted the power and status that came with a unified Italy, a dream born out of the Renaissance and Enlightenment and nostalgia for the Roman Republic. High on this idea, they neglected to consider the consequences of unifying with the South they so despise. If they had forced it develop it wouldn’t be a problem but they hate Terroni so they did nothing and now bitch about it.
>>519390252Trve
>>519390176>met the minority of educated Beyaz Turks that fled in the 80sEducated by your turd standards. Their grand-grand-grand sons (seeing a roach female is mounted at 10 producing a new generation) are the same as a somali shit fresh from the boat.
>>519390333you nogs are going extinct kek. che puzzi kek>>519390338your map literally excludes nizza. the fisherman in nizza spoke italian. the whole operation of the city was in italian before the french takeover. garibaldi was literally from nizza. nizza is italian if we're getting into these back and forth irredentist claims
>>519378814All Americans descend from losers and criminals. We're not sending our best.
>>519390464So northerners do not really like southerners or have a sense of familial connection with them.
>>519390073Eww mutt
>>519390611Well then put fucking Nizza there I don’t give a shit. However, Aosta and Tyrol aren’t irredentist claims, it’s just proper borders based on ethnicity
>>519390829we have much bigger issues in europe for now though. let's focus on making europe european again. then we can squabble over little changes in the borders
>>519390956True
>>519387062If you sucked Garibaldi's dick more may be he'd allow you out of gratitude not to join united Italy like San Marino
>>519390611>n-no u're going extinctSure, the old Europeans will go exctinct in two more weeks, mystery meat.>>519390767I doubt it, can't speak for those northern kikes but we generally dislike anybody from the peninsula, especially Neapolitans and Sicilians, glorified jeets.
>>519387965Nah you need to cut off the entire Lombardy-Veneto for the austrians, and give Trieste to Slovenia.
>>519390767Depends on the Northerner, but largely, yes.
>>519391986Never, Lombardy and Venice are both Italian. They can be an independent Northern Italy, but never join Austria.
>>519390767pretty much. i remember my grandfather asking me if donnarumma is "arabo"
>>519390055Monte negro it's a place
>>519391761Indians are whiter and more aryan and any Italians, north or south
>>519387062>sick and tired of the niggertry in the southyou are literally a negroid amerimutt mystery meat
>>519393831They're not whiter than anyone except niggers.
>>519394758More than 98% of self-identified white Americans have absolutely zero nonwhite heritage whatsoever. You cannot say the same.
>>519378814>'it*lians'If only this demented and non existent category was never invented. Maybe Lombards would not even be on the brink of extinction.Will this ride ever end ? No (not until the said Lombard extinction happens anyway).
>>519391761Whats wrong with sicilians? My family came from Sicily and they are very nice and beautiful people.
>>519378814Imagine a thing working 24/7 for leading pic related into extinction. You have imagined the dystopic dysgenic judeomasonic siculo-neapolitan state entity that calls itself 'it*ly'. Time to flush it down the sewer of history for good.
>>519396684It’s not that all Sicilians are bad, but a lot of them have criminal tendencies, proclivities for corruption and violence. They also tend to be very loud. On top of that, because they are from the very far south they tend to be swarthy and greasy.
>>519380244>Chinese colonyDelusional Chang larping as usual
>>519382859>superior>south asianpick one, and only one>>519385260no matter how much you spam this thread with your insane cope, remember this: you, nor any other south asian is ever going to be aryan. not even close. wash your filthy hands with bleach before even thinking about typing the word ‘aryan’. understood?
>>519380696but... it would be impossible for you to post a picture of america as white as this?don't bother replying without such an image
>>519397092>GreasyAnon, the south is the region that showers the most. At least once a day
>>519397701The vast majority of white Americans are of celto germanic stock, coming from the british isles. Or Germany if they are midwestern .
>>519378814Any nation who joined the axis is ww2 is based imo
>>519397092>swarthy and greasyI've always hated that phenotype, the blacks at least have beautiful skin, but the Italian/Mexican swarthoids inhabiting American cities like New York and Los Angeles look all kinds of wrong.
>>519396684Same as Neapolitans, they don't clean out their human trash and the state enables such garbage, meanwhile shaking down grannies for protection money gets you exiled or fed to pigs around here, when I say glorified jeets I do mean it.
>>519379432I see significant differences there
>pre calc>couple of italian students in my class>all have the skin shade of gypsies/sandniggers>some have curly hair>others have weird african nigger hair although they dont look half cast>all have brown eyes>mfw the greek kid looks nordic>mfw the albanian kids look swedishdamn I didnt know nigtalians were this brown
>>519384143Indians dress like shit so fat chance
>>519397957>no pictureyou_tried.jpg
>>519399553Idiot. Are you seriously dumb enough to believe that all Americans are mutts? There are entire regions of the country where more than 90% of the inhabitants are white, and they are all of Northern and Western European Stock. The other guy probably didn’t upload a photo because he doesn’t need to. It’s just an objective fact that Midwestern are of Celto-Germanic stock, the burden of proof is in you if you insist otherwise.
