Serious question: does praying to the God of the Bible cause the exact OPPOSITE of what you want to happen?
>>519381900You have a dialog with yourself. The outcomes are the dynamic result of your actions and society, i.e. the restraints elites put in place against you, and the interests of the little people around you.
>>519382079You get it. Also why I'm doom pilled
>>519381900yeah it's something like that
>>519381900possiblyI believe if god exists he wants us to suffer, but I doubt he'd actually bother interacting with you personally or directly in order to do so.
>>519381900If you do it wrong, yes. To pray "with faith" means you already feel in your heart that your prayer has already been granted and you just do not know the day and the hour because God is outside of time and doesn't work according to schedules https://youtu.be/q2L-BwWcA50?si=Rm2kYOuiL3-dLc2G
>>519381900>Telepathically communicating with an ancient mythical Jewish wizard is totally healthy!!
>>519381900>Serious question: does praying to the God of the Bible cause the exact OPPOSITE of what you want to happen?
>>519382753Pic related
>>519381900It’s not about your will.Although crazy zealous Christians seem to hate other religions, Taoism got it right that it’s you that has to live with the universe. The universe doesn’t need you as much as you need it. Now apply the same thing to God. He’s not a wishing well, you dolt.
>>519381900I've started to notice that too
Bumping.Got the same question.
>>519381900>I do this>Therefore God will do thatThat is self worship, it's what pagans believe. You serve God not the other way around.
>>519382282>To pray "with faith" means you already feel in your heart that your prayer has already been grantedSo why pray if the prayer has already been granted?Do you understand how demented that sounds?
>>519381900It won't do dick. God doesn't change his plan for you or anyone else for that matter. What praying does is (hopefully) make you accept his design and trust his plan.
>>519381900God loves us very much...but he can't hear us anymore, and all of your prayers are stolen by something else, and that something else has teeth and claws...
>>519383683>So why pray if the prayer has already been granted?>So why thank your mother for the food if you already ate?
>>519384037>Implying God isn't capable of hearing every prayerInto the hellfire it goes.
>>519384083You're suggesting prayer is about thanks rather than making a request.
>>519383312There are no other religions, it's the truth and all your other religions are lies.Most people don't even realize that Zeus, Athena, medusa, the cyclops, the minotaurs, the giants, the satyrs, the dragons and so on are actually hidtorical figures and very much.The gods of cults and so called other religions are also real as is said in the bible, that they are gods but will die like men.So the gods of this world, the devices of men, the wisdom of men will perish.
>>519383902This is accurate, fate is predetermined but prayers do help us navigate thru destiny if we see destiny as point A to B and C as inevitability.
>>519384194>I never thank God I just ask for stuffthere's yer problem
>>519383312>He’s not a wishing wellI prayed for God to end a "sinful" habit of mine, and it did not happen. Why? Surely God would be happy to yield such a result expeditiously?
>>519383902>What praying does is (hopefully) make you accept his design and trust his plan.How could this be when you pray in accordance with "His" will, such as to not sin, yet the prayer is ineffectual?
>>519381900No Matthew 7:1111Therefore, if you, although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more so will your Father who is in the heavens give good things to those asking him!However, he will not answer some prayers. >(John 9:31) We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is God-fearing and does his will, he listens to this one.>(Proverbs 28:9) He that is turning his ear away from hearing the law—even his prayer is something detestable.>(Psalm 66:18) If I have regarded anything hurtful in my heart, Jehovah will not hear [me].>(Isaiah 1:15) And when YOU spread out YOUR palms, I hide my eyes from YOU. Even though YOU make many prayers, I am not listening; with bloodshed YOUR very hands have become filled.>(Micah 3:4) At that time they will call to Jehovah for aid, but he will not answer them. And he will conceal his face from them in that time, according as they committed badness in their dealings.>(James 4:3) YOU do ask, and yet YOU do not receive, because YOU are asking for a wrong purpose, that YOU may expend [it] upon YOUR cravings for sensual pleasure.
>>519384037I believe your hypothesis to be false. Some people proclaim their prayers are answered.
>>519381900He who turns away his ear from listening to the law,Even his prayer is an abomination.— Proverbs 28:9
>>519384503Free will means you have the freedom to be a filthy degenerate and quit anytime. It's like asking to not be born so you don't sin at all. Might as well kill all future criminals in the womb
>>519383683If your prayer is "I am so poor, please help me" then your prayer is "I am poor."If your prayer is "I am capable of creating my own car company someday if I strive towards it, thank you God" then your prayer is "I am capable of creating my own car company"So be careful which one you do
>>519384732>quit anytimeNo. You don't understand. I was praying to Jesus/God to stop at the same time my body was operating outside of my own conscious control. You don't understand what is happening.
>>519381900YES and I cannot believe somebody else here has noticed this
>>519384773So for example if my prayer is "I am able to live life without pain if i so decide" then will that become true?
>>519384891I wouldn't worship a being that blames anyone for what they have no control of. My ideal God would be a being that transcends the human idea of justice.
>>519381900>God of the BibleWell it depends. If you pray to pic related (this is Yahweh according to 2 Samuel 22:7-16 description given to us), then no but if you direct them at Jesus the one true God then yes.
>>519381900Remember folks, god will never let you down, but if he does, it's because he was testing you, or just told you no, or will help you in some other way, or basically any other answer than he's not there.
>>519385576God can have any form.
>>519381900>does praying to the God of the Bible cause the exact OPPOSITE of what you want to happen?God might not always give you what you want, but He will give you what you need. And if you are asking for Him to give you some kind of materialistic personal thing you want, as if He is a genie from a bottle granting wishes is a great way of insuring that you get an important life lesson instead of the newest fucko pop goyslop consoomer thing you really wanted.
>>519385464That's the idea. If you believe your pain is incurable then you will probably just resign yourself to it. If you believe it's possible to resolve then you may eventually try a solution that works. The idea is that you must become mentally aligned with the potential blessing to receive it, but if you are not mentally aligned then you may discard the blessing even if you receive it. The supernatural idea is that God will supernaturally provide opportunities to receive the blessing if you have faith that it will happen. But if someone is not mentally aligned, God could send them someone who might be able to help, but because they do not believe it is possible they will dismiss the possibility of being helped. Like the drowning man in the joke who sends the rescuers away because 'God will save me,' and when they die god tells them that they sent the rescuers. He wasn't mentally aligned with the potential blessing of rescue
>>519384194>You're suggesting prayer is about thanks rather than making a request.What the fuck else would it be? Lmao
>>519384503Whether you pray or not is up to you. What you do in response to the world around you is up to you. Whether or not the draught will kill your crops happens regardless of how much you pray.
>>519385464Yes, but you can't just say it in a prayer, you have to completely believe it with the entirety of your existence. This isn't really about prayer as much as visualization, prayer is a fairly ineffective way of going about it because you are basically asking God to interfere and make you free from pain. But you can just do it yourself by convincing yourself to stop feeling pain enough that it distorts reality around you.
>>519386345And he choses a DRAGON something we are taught is of the devil and is also a fiery SNAKE. Oh btw that's also Jesus according to the church LMAO
>>519381900I want you all to be aware that no matter what you are going through it's only temporary. Once Armageddon happens, Jehovah God will reverse the world back to it original paradise earth Adam and Eve forsook. Pic related is what is going to happen.
>>519388634>Jehovah GodThis guy ate hook line and sniker. When the lying signs appear you will be the first the believe in them
If you're not sure the Bible is the word of God watch: youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI1 Cor. 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” How to know you're saved: youtube.com/watch?v=EAtR40sue5MRomans 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”Jesus Christ is God who has come to earth from heaven in the flesh. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and is now in heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Romans 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Either choose this evil world and be punished along with it, or choose to submit to the will of God and be saved. Your own deeds, no matter how good you think they are, can NEVER justify you. You're corrupt and need to be saved. Romans 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in what HE did for you. Only He can wash away all of your sins with His blood. Salvation is a gift, it can't be earned. Do you choose the righteousness of God or your righteousness? Heaven or hell?Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” youtube.com/watch?v=BbPchtYsXNoyoutube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc
>>519381900It's hard to say. Did jesus not exist at all or was he the snake in the garden of eden? Who knows?
>>519381900Sort of.Using god and the Bible as a way to extort (means for an end), will split the self.But being a real Christian is genuinely impossible. It’s just too difficult. What Jesus asks is not possible from average sinful beings born in a sinful world.99% of Christians will go to hell if purgatory doesn’t exist. In fact that’s why purgatory was made, as an excuse to fail.
>>519387779>But you can just do it yourself by convincing yourself to stop feeling pain enough that it distorts reality around you.So all i have to do is convince myself to stop feeling pain and i will stop feeling pain?
>>519389462Can i also decide that from now on everything i do will be the right thing to do, and it simply will be so?
>>519381900Christians get blessings from nothingblessings originate from Bledsiangermanic blessings, blood consecrationcatholics thinks that theyre eating and drinking yeshua bin brosefthe many other branches of christianity: ughhh through the ages: pay money, be free from sins (christian mindrot)essentially gets blessings out of nothingpreaching mental castrationchristianity is a fucking death cult, only serving as a control mechanics meant for the peasant classthey, christians avoided intellectuals like the plague because intelligent individuals cuts through the veil of deception.
>>519390504Judaism believes in racial purity. Buddhism works better since it's the only other universalist religion.
>>519390666devoid of reference and citationmost inbredmost diverse peopledoesnt line up with mossad framework designyou need to stop reading memes made by the jew GottMittUns who pretend to be a nazi on twatter.
>>519390825Jews became diverse in exile. Otherwise, there would be no intermarriage.>inb4 kalergi planIf everyone is a mutt, no one is a mutt. The key is sustaining social tension.
>>519381900I should start praying to not get a gf then
>>519390948jews have always been diverseespecially post 19th centuryeven christcucks tend to spam about mossad spy programs related to half-jew/jewish women sent to infilitrate politicians and businessmen
>>519381900>asking god for free stuff
>>519391183Jews living in exile are diverse.Judaism itself is against diversity.Both can be true at the same time.
>>519381900This always happened to me when I was Christian, so often that I started to think that God was an evil being... then I discovered that it's the whole Abrahmism that is a Jewish trick that makes people worship a desert demon (this explains a lot).
Nothing ever happens.
>>519383683You're not familiar with what he's saying.Let me try using an analogy.You love a girl, you want her to love you.You go up to her with the mindset that she already loves you; as a result, you're calm, relaxed, in a good mood, she subconsciously notices this and is inclined to favor you because you're able to act comfortably around her. You go into the situation with the end goal already set in your mind as having happened, and it allows it to happen.Vs.You go up to a girl with the idea that she doesn't love you, this causes you to act in a performative manner full of anxiety trying to "earn" her love, and she senses this, that you're awkward, uncomfortable, and that you two don't have a connection / aren't on the same level. As a result it repels her further.Make sense?
>>519391334jews was exiled for a short period time in history, you need to stop backpedaling on the most retarded fucking buzzwords you barely even seem to understand.
Not this tranny spammer again
>>519391586So you're supposed to lie to yourself and actually believe it?
>>519391520exactly, abrahamic goyslop religions is the biggest psyop in all of history.both christianity and islam originate from jews who were oppressed under the might of pagan rome.Neither christianity or islam is real, completely fucking manmade but even worse, by jews of all.
>>519381900Intercessory prayer actually does have a negative impact when the person knows they're being prayed for. Normal prayer has the same power as random chance.
>>519381900I prayed for OP to be a faggot, and lo my prayer has been answered!
>>519391688If i never want to suffer again, and never want to feel pain again, how do i go on achieving that? Can someone give me a step by step, please? That would be very kind of you, thank you.
>>519391598Thousands of years is not a short period of time.
>>519389562Go to /x/, specifically the manifesting thread / /loa/. If you prefer authors / youtube vids then look up Neville Goddard.>Can i also decide that from now on everything i do will be the right thing to dThe "right thing" may not be what you want to do, so I imagine that such a prayer would be realigning your desires with what God wants (for you).>>519391688You're not lying to yourself though.Imagine you went back in time, pre 9-11. The towers falling is (now) a pre-ordained act. You know it's going to happen. It's not lying to say "the towers will fall". It already happened, you know it already happened, but it still hasn't happened yet.It's making plans for the future that will happen, and by virtue of God existing outside of normal spacetime, have happened, even though for you, in one way, they haven't happened.You split off a part of your mind to live in the future you desire, and there, it already happened. You know 100% for certain it already happened, so why would you doubt it or think you're "lying to yourself". The towers already fell, even if they didn't fall yet.
>>519392156another meaningless buzzword you dont understand"jews always this thousands"doesnt know when or how long"muh christian europe thousands"doesnt know since when/until what point in timelike seriously, have you ever fucking opened up a god damn book in your entire life that isnt biblical sources?this is exactly why you fall victim to pseudo-intellectuals online spreading fake history devoid of evidence of any kind like nordic israelism.and you are always americans, always talking about places youve never stepped foot in.
>>519381900If you are doing something good sincerely without thinking of reward you'll inevitably have some trouble as a result. If you have ever done this you'll know it. You should just pretend being good, signal virtue for your own benefit but remain calm and calculating person inside like you all mutts and kikes are doing. You will amass earthly riches this way.
>>519392480Do you deny the Babylonian exile?
>>519392548i dont but i do deny most of babylonian slop just like the tower is basd on metaphors and exaggerations and fringe myths compiled over goysloppa.
>>519381900I am God.
>>519381900Some kind of god might be real, but it sure as fuck ain't the Christcuck one. There are older religions than it. Unless they're referring to the very same entity in the end, but that's different. Ultimately, the church or religious institutions in any case, are always evil.
Sabbateans were right
>>519381900Which god of the Bible? There were a few gods listed. Is Yahweh of the jews the same god as God the Father? Jesus said he was not.>Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.>>519384555Checked. I like Matthew 7:9-10 as well.>Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?The jews in Exodus asked Yahweh for water, so he gave them a stone. They asked for food, and Yahweh sent venomous serpents. And this was long after Yahweh hardened the heart of the pharoah so that Yahweh could kill thousands of children. If God never changes (James 1:17), and Jesus and God are one (John 1:1), can you picture Jesus killing thousands of children? Of course not!
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>>519385576Based. Some believe yahweh was the Egypian god Seth. This famous graffiti was because at the time of Jesus's death, it was common belief that the jews worshipped a donkey headed god, and Jesus was accused of being the king of the Jews.
>>519381900yeah 100% if you ask that rapist for anything he will takei asked him why my spoiled narcissistic sociopath cousin gets life on easy mode while i get lawfared to deathwhat did god do ?put me in jail for 15 months innocent and im still on ankle monitor ( 1 year left) literally didnt do anything they just dragged me off to say i was crazy and failed but i still had to do time.i asked him to let my dog live longer and make my life easierso he had my dog die home alone while i was being gangstalked at a computer shopfuck the child raping god who makes me live in hell while licking the assholes of the worst people on earthhe is not omnipotenthe is the devil.lucifer is nothing but a puppetgod is the real evil
>>519381900No. I’ve never met anyone that was a true Christian that lets demons affect them. False Christians, especially Catholics that believe confessing to an old guy in robes absolves you of sins get torn up. There are some sections of the Old Testament where Jews were clearly communicating with demons posing as God. But the New Testament puts all of that to rest.
>>519394448christianity is 1 big giant lie of rapethere are no true or false christians its all made up horse shit made up by child rapists and their patron god jesus to get you to continue let them raping children
>>519384403>God fix this for meThe fucking state of you. You have to have strength to exhibit Gods will. Your journey has only just begun
>>519394547>obsessed with rapeI’m assuming a priest touched your wee wee when you were a little kid?
>>519394547>>519394346I say this in unironic, complete sincerity: please get help. There are 12 step support groups for your problems.
>>519381900Praying doesn't cause anything to happen, why would it. If you do it then it should be a form of meditation and reflection. What you're talking about is some type of low-level cargo cult thinking unworthy of enlightenment
>>519393932>They asked for food,He gave them Mana>Yahweh sent venomous serpents.That was punishment Yahweh could kill thousands of children.All life belongs to God. It's his property. If God never changes (James 1:17),Correct >Jesus and God are one (John 1:1)They are not. That's Trinitarian heresy >can you picture Jesus killing thousands of children?Yes! Jesus isn't God. However, he's an angel. In the OT he is Michael, The Archangel. He's possibly one of the angels that nuked Sodom and Gomorrah. He was also possibly the angel in the last plague in Egypt that killed every firstborn. In our days, he's going to annihilate 99% of humanity on Earth in Armageddon.
>>519394724i say this in complete unironic sincerityyou know who i am and you know what you are doingkill yourself you rat fuck glownigger
please please keep saying shit like that god cant touch you gangstalkersplease keep being stupid as fuckyou will all be humbled by god ROYALLY
>>519394909Are you being serious?>That was punishmentFor asking for food.>Yahweh could kill thousands of children. It's his property.What good father would do that?>That's Trinitarian heresy>John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was GodJohn 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?>he's an angelThat's a crazy claim. Any proof?
>>519395151At the very least, ask for help from a family member if you decide you want to hurt anyone.
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>>519384666Checked satan
>>519395554>Are you being serious?>>That was punishment>For asking for food.Oh you are talking about the copper serpent incident in Numbers 21:5-9. Yes, Jehovah sent serpents to bite them because they cursed the bread(manna) he was feeding them. Yeah that was justified.
>>519395554That's a crazy claim. Any proof?>“1b2. Another prophecy in Daniel 12:1-3 respects the second and personal coming of Christ; for he is meant by Michael, who is "as God", as his name signifies,equal to him; the ‘great prince,’ the prince of the kings of the earth, and the head of all principalities and powers.” - John Gill, A Body of Doctrinal Divinity, Book 7 Chapter 5:>“The earlier Protestant scholars usually identified Michael with the preincarnate Christ, finding support for their view, not only in the juxtaposition of the “child” and the archangel in Rev. 12, but also in the attributes ascribed to him in Daniel” –The International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia vol. 3, p. 2048, Eerdmans Publishing, 1984 printing>"I embrace the opinion of those who refer this to the person of Christ, because it suits the subject best to represent him as standing forward for the defense of his elect people." - John Calvin, Commentaries On The Book Of The Prophet Daniel, trans. T. Myers (Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1979), vol. 2 p. 369>There seems good reason for regarding Michael as the Messiah. Such was the opinion of the best among the ancient Jews.... With this all the Bible representations of Michael agree. He appears as the Great Prince who standeth for Israel (Dan. xii. I), and he is called "the Prince of Israel" (Dan. x. 21)--William L. Alexander,ed., A CyclopediaOf Biblical Literature, originally edited by John Kitto, 3d ed. (Edinburgh: A & C Black, 1886). vol. 3, p. 158
>>519395554>>519397772>"An answer to Daniel's enquiry, ver. 8 - 13. For the children - The meaning seems to be, as after the death of Antiochus the Jews had some deliverance, so there will be yet a greater deliverance to the people of God, when Michael your prince, the Messiah shall appear for your salvation.A time of trouble - A the siege of Jerusalem, before the final judgment. The phrase at that time, probably includes all the time of Christ, from his first, to his last coming.... - John Wesley:>..."Michael - Christ alone is the protector of his church, when all the princes of the earth desert or oppose it." - John Wesley>“voice of the archangel”(1 Thess. 4:16) is apparently “the voice of the Lord Jesus Christ”! -Trinitarian Bible scholar W. E. Vine (“recognized as one of the world’s foremost [Bible] Greek scholars”) p. 64, An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words>“Let it be observed that the word archangel is never found in the plural number in the sacred writings. There can be properly only one archangel,one chief or head of all the angelic host. Nor is the word devil, as applied to the great enemy of mankind, ever found in the plural; there can be but one monarch of all fallen spirits. Michael is this archangel,and head of all the angelic orders; the devil, great dragon, or Satan, is head of all the diabolic orders. When these two hosts are opposed to each other they are said to act under these two chiefs, as leaders; hence in Revelation12:7, it is said: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the DRAGON and his angels. The word Michael, seems to be compounded of ym mi, who, k ke, like, and la El, God; he who is like God; hence by this personage,in the Apocalypse, many understand the Lord Jesus.” - Clarke’s Commentary (Adam Clarke)>"Michael is no other than Christ."- Lutheran E. W. Hengstenberg>"We take it that Michael . . . is, from the outset, Christ in warlike array against Satan." - J. P. Lange
>>519395554>What good father would do that?One that punishes people. Your problem is that you forget that he's not a human father. A human father is imperfect and cannot execute justice perfectly. Jehovah is the Almighty God. He can execute justice perfectly. It's not possible for him to abuse and be unjust.
