Why can't we have free healthcare!?!!!
>>519390697fuck you
>freekys socialisttake your own riskand die!
Why can't you just die?
>>519390697>bill them $6 for Tylenol.>expect not to be assassinated.the billionaires are a parody of themselves genuinely
>>519390697Guess who does have free healthcare? Guess who pays for it? Guess who gets free flights to the US to have operations performed at top-tier American hospitals - for free? Can you guess?
>>519390697>why can't we have free Healthcare>shows how easily the current system, kept in check by people's wallets is scammed by insurance/doctorsYeah, you're right, anon. I'm sure if the government foots the bill, this won't get even worse. They're not known for corruption, collusion, or wasteful spending.
>>519390697I currently owe 9 million dollars in medical bills over going to the e.r. so much past 5 years (I'm an alcoholic, lots of drunk flights, escapades, accidents and withdrawals).... Haven't paid a fucking penny and never will lol. Never been sued once and I've been in 30+ different hospitals in 7 states
>>519390697It should at least be free for children including unborn children.Btw the answer is Jews in case you seriously didn’t jnow
The real honest reason is that Americans would sue the country to the ground
>>519391141Yeah but government regulation to lower the prices is impossible because of how corrupt congress is.
>>519391304kys socialistdead to the entire medic scam. Kill every doctor, nurse and pharma chemist
>>519390697Nothing is free you retarded nigger, somebody's got to pay for it and that's going to mean taxpayers. Try to scoop out some of the shit from your fucking brain okay?
>>519390697Its all for free in norway ;) just sayin
>>519391449I’m not a socialist you stupid nigger, just take the money from social security, or give Israel less money, or from whatever lobbyists give congress.
>>519390697Fuck bith of these whores. They should be beaten, organ harvested, and sold into slavery of a sexual nature to cover the costs. I hate retarded women so much bros.
It would be funny if hospital administrators and other non-essential staff started not showing up to work because people were shooting them kekCan you imagine? Hahaha man, what a knee slapper. Anyways, we have 10 administrators per doctor today. Paychecks are expensive. Thank you for your payment, goy.
>>519391490Is Norway becoming brown shithole full of raping zuttist like Sweden?
>>519390697Why is my taxpayers dollar always funding these dumb whores who can't keep their legs shut then cry wolf on the internet about how their unwanted newborn is having terminal health problems.
>>519390697too many chuds oppose it
>>51939146610% of the active us population is in public funded npo/ngos employed10% in public funded med industrial complex40% in "public services"those people all have to die, together with the retired and the off spring
>>519391621Its literally because you dont kill enough niggers, anon.
>>519390697kys, I hate how all whites are parasites, learn from TRUMP who became rich without free healthcare
>>519391708socialist need to die first
STOP REPLYING TO SPAM, YOU DUMB NIGGERS
>>519390697In all honesty if the government ran universal medicaid it would be bankrupted and ineffectual within a couple years. Medicare and Medicaid fraud has everything to do with propping up a profoundly retarded insurance system. Both insurance and medicaid are an Ouroboros that feeds itself. Cut one of them out and the other will die. We would be better off if the healthcare entitlements rug were pulled and hospitals were forced to adjust their prices to what people can afford. Yes, poor people would get fucked, but right now the alternative is poor people who don't contribute to society get free medical care and the rest of us who have actual value to society are the ones getting fucked. The government either needs to restrict medicaid to a finite list of basic medical services, excluding absurd shit like Suboxone, PREP, and Latuda for homeless retards, or get the fuck out of healthcare altogether and give those tax dollars back to the people.
>>519391708>youyes, me, all by my lonesome.no, the problem is not enough people.Shalom, agent.
>>519391731id rather learn from gods chosen
>>519390853Hi>>519391205This is the way.
>>519391513THISwe need to go to europe and conquer those fucking white parasites that use free healthcarethe white race only drags humanity down
>>519391731>learn from trump who became rich without free healthcareYou mean, get free inheritance gibs from his family?
>>519391490You know, I respect the doctors in those countries where health care is free that stay in those countries more than doctors in the USA, who are greedy fucks.
>>519390697What a cute baybee, you just want to feed taco bell to its face
>>519390697because leftists imported 100 million foreign parasites and nobody wants to pay for them to have free healthcare.
>>519390697because you're fat
>>519391967Yea doctors here make like $50k a year after 6 years of med school and 5 years of residency.I'm about to come get your fat American doctor money in a few years when I qualify.
>>519390697Because these demons do instead
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>>519391490Norway has a population of like 5.5 million people. Your entire "nation" would be in 10th place on a list of most populous US metropolitan areas. While we're on that note, I do find it curious that none of these liberal democrat cities are willing to implement free healthcare within their own cities. They could very easily vote such policies in on their own local levels if they truly cared.
>>519390697I paid $0 in medical bills for all 4 of my kids.Childcare is free here too lol.I heckin love socialism. It makes paying taxes feel a lot better too when you get so much back.
>>519390697neckbraces are so fucking funny, look at her, trying to look around without being able to move her neck because of the neckbrace
>>519392398You Americans claim to be rich and yet you can't feed babies or give medical care to children.Curious!And you live like this.
>>519390697I have no idea.You’re looking at one of the biggest scam industries in existence. They charge because they know you’ll probably pay. But where does that money go? Who is getting alll this money?!Are they even Americans?Honestly speaking, healthcare should be Fed covered for American citizens under 18.Kids under 10?! Not even a question. Now, let’s run the numbers and figure out how many windows do we need and how many people are going to be getting a front row seat to a window.Do you know what 20 years of GWOT taught the IC? Water boarding isn’t really enough, we need the window boarding or throwing people out of windows.
>>519391436It's almost like there's not a governmental solution to this problem, and it won't be resolved until violence enters the chat.
>>519392513I don't see any Americans in that picture?
>>519390697Because the doctors won’t work for free.
>>519392217Do it Have you learned about "malpractice insurance" yet? Enjoy.
>>519390697We have the ACA. Anyone who isn't covered is either poor AND retarded or they make too much to qualify and would rather role the dice than get health insurance. The vast majority of uninsured people are simply too lazy and retarded to sign up for Medicaid.
>>519390697Because healthcare is the product of other people's labor, and those people need to be fairly compensated.
>>519392793>fairly compensated>fairlyand how much should we be paying you doctor goldberg?
>hospitals overcharge insurance companies because they know insurance companies can pay $$$>insurance companies low-ball hospitals because they want to make money >Doctor salaries are high because the AMA is a racket and residency positions are cappedThe fundamental problem is that there is a near limitless demand for healthcare, especially with NICU babies and people living into their 90s now. You can't really fix this without rationing like MAID and "death panels". AI can potentially bring costs down but healthcare will always ratchet to higher and higher costs, as people live longer and healthier lives. Healthcare is not a good like housing where you can just build more. People who would have lived to 68 in 1950 are now spending 30 extra years spazzed out on lifeglugs. 1% of the entire federal budget is spent on keeping fatties alive with dialysis. People will always want more and more healthcare.
>>519393039It's not just the doctor who provides healthcare. There is an entire infrastructure and supply chain, and everyone whose a part of it is bringing you the health care you think you should get for free. So you think all of those people should be your healthcare slaves, because they just should, okay! The more I converse with your kind online, the more I come to realize that communists are nothing a bunch of entitled pricks who couldn't possibly care less about other people and are only interested in avoiding personal responsibility, no matter the cost to others.
>>519390697privilege reserved for countries that are homogeneous, healthy, and have governments that don't hate their citizens
>>519390697Isn't the whole point of health insurance so that you don't have to pay this much? Insidious ponzi scheme I must say.
>>519392742>Medicaid Hospitals in California are telling Medical(California's Medicaid) to fuck off. They won't take it because the prices Medical demands are too low. This is why LA has such a low ratio of hospital beds and hospital beds to people. Hospitals literally cannot function with all these spics dropping out crotch goblins and using the ER like clinics on government dime. Right before the election I visited my father in law at the ICU at the USC hospital, and walked through the ER. Literally everyone there was a "no hablas Ingles" spic who did not have an emergency. Spics know that the ER can't refuse them and that Medical will pick up the bill. Illegals get free healthcare.
>>519393246>avoids the questiongive us a number goldberg.
>>519390697No ond has free healthcare faggot
>>519390697>Why can't we have free healthcare!?!!!Everyone has FREE Healthcare, that isn't White.
>>519393862>hurrr durrrSasuga commie
>>519393523That person is posting what the hospital is charging the insurance company before negotiating the price down. I spent 2 days in the hospital with a kidney infection and the hospital charges my insurance $75,000 for a bed and some intravenous antibiotics. The consumer never actually sees what the insurance company and hospital negotiate down to, the insurance company makes up a bullshit number and that's your copay.
>>519390697>Bitching about 12k to save your kids lifeHow much would you pay to bring your daughter back to life had she not been saved?
>>519394123>perspective
>>519393906As long as ERs can't refuse treatment, everyone effectively has free healthcare. If you can't pay, depending on the state, medicaid will pick up the bill in entirety.
>>519394123>sorry sir your daughter has a bad case of anxiety >pay us $12,000 now lol
>pay 160 to get kicked out of the hospitalkek
>>519394123Honestly we should just let more people die. It's a crime to save so many people who should have just died in childhood. >Noooo my child has a disease where his bones are as fragile as glass and can't walk without breaking his legs, the public should spend millions and millions of dollars on keeping him gracelessly live a horrible lifeJust let them die, man.
>>519390697im not paying for it cuck
>>519391764>We would be better off if the healthcare entitlements rug were pulled and hospitals were forced to adjust their prices to what people can afford. Yes, poor people would get fucked, but right now the alternative is poor people who don't contribute to society get free medical care and the rest of us who have actual value to society are the ones getting fucked.Insurance really should just exist for thing like trauma and severe accidents and medical episodes. I'm fine paying $50 for routine shit like getting blood drawn and $100 from r some stitches at a fair market price. The problem is that everything in society is geared towards keeping the bottom 10% of people alive so middle class women can feel good about themselves.
American doctors just abuse the system. People will pay whatever it takes for health which is used by jews. Every second american doctor is some sort of Stein.
>>519392614Glowing
poor toddler :((
>>519390697>"free"Jane, you ignorant slut.
Illegals literally get free healthcare in America.
>>519390697In my country we have free healthcare and I can speak from experience in saying that: it turns emergency rooms into third world triages where drug addict and swarthy shitskins compete with white people. As the nurses and doctors roles become shitskins they also begin prioritising their own kind despite correct triage procedure.I saw a alcholic African with 12 kids get a free hip replacement, days of stay and food, try to pull out a fully inflated catheter and get out of bed a day after surgery because he was going through a booze withdrawals. Then he tried to fight security until they drugged him.It’s a recipe for disaster. Free healthcare should only exit in white nations. Otherwise the subhumans get it and breed even faster. Don’t even get me started on wailing Muslims and their stinky babbling as they refuse to pull the plug for “religious reasons” forcing their ancient musrat grandfather to live through agonising pain so he yells for days in a shared ward.IF HOU WANT TO BECOME MORE RACIST GO ENJOY “FREE HEALTHCARE” IN THE PRESENCE OF SHITSKINS.
>>519394570American Christian values here (America is actually a jewish nation).
Because mutts deserve to die. Only 10% matters rest should off themselves
>>519395096American doctors do commit a lot of fraud. They of course want $$$ so they order a bunch of unnecessary tests. In return, insurance acts like a bunch of Jews and automatically deny covering everything. It's just Jewish behavior all around.
>>519395453Your immigration choices were bad but that has nothing to do with this discussion. And if people could take their sick kid to a normal doctor instead of an E.R. they would.
>>519394570True but it's not just kids. Lots of people of all ages are being kept alive by modern medicine who deserve to die because they provide absolutely nothing of value with their existence and are nothing more than a drain on public resources.
>>519395518Yea shit is jewish as fuck (((they))) know people DON'T have a choice when it comes to health.
>>519395453>free healthcare and I can speak from experience in saying that: it turns emergency rooms into third world triages where drug addict and swarthy shitskins compete with white peopleWe have free healthcare in the US despite all the Democrat gaslighting and our ERs already look like this.
>>519394570I mean yeah actually we should.Think about it, it’s the perfect moral [retest to advance medical science. It’s a lot better than giving fat people with diabetes insulin.But we don’t care about scientific improvements we care about money so fat diabetes is more profit.>>519395300This genuinely mind broke me when I heard about this. Children with cancer are left to die meanwhile jeets get free health care lmao.Demonic government on every side of the dreidel
>>519390697But you voted that money away to fund Israel's free healthcare.
>>519390697>Paid in full>Paid in full>Paid in full>Paid in fullLooks like she wasn't charged anything after her insrance picked up the bill.Funny that she didn't show the "payment due by patient" part. Fucking cunts.Yes, ambulances don't materialize out of thin air. X-rays don't materialize out of thin air. Medicine doesn't materialize out of thin air.These things cost money. They cost money to buy, money to operate, money to repair. The staff aren't slaves or volunteers. They get paid to take care of you. That costs money.
>>519395609>We have free healthcare in the USNot for white people.
>>519390916If all you needed was Tylenol, why did you go to the Emergency Room instead of CVS?That Tylenol at the ED had to pass through a lot of hands before it got to you.
>>519395607>Don't have a choice Here's the thing. People DO have a choice, the problem with subsidizing healthcare is that it makes people offload their well-being to the government. What is the point of staying thin and fit when you know the government will pay for your diabetes treatment when you eventually become a wheelchair bound slob? Why have kids in your 20s and not in your 40s when risk is much greater when you know the government will pay for your retarded child? The incentive structure is broken.
>>519390697should have haggled on the price
>>519395864lol and lmao get a load of this cuck
>>519390697Because niggers would abuse it and use ambulances as their personal taxi cabs.People would flood the emergency room for paper cuts, and we would be told to kill ourselves by the doctors in charge.
>>519395874You can actually just deal with hospitals directly, and sometimes pay even less money than what your insurance company charges you as copay. Hospitals should be required to list prices they charge for all procedures. This would inject necessary price mechanism into the market.
>>519396075Have you seen the size of our niggers. Literally billions of dollars wasted in keeping 400 pound Shaniqua alive for no reason.
>>519396096umm wow do you have any idea how based that sounds?
>>519391205>I currently owe 9 million dollars in medical bills over going to the e.r. so much past 5 years (I'mThis just isn't possible, what a stupid thing to lie about fucktard
>>519396295t. schlomo shekelstein
When you walk into the Hospital you instantly engage about 10 people between registration, computer network support, records, archives and administration before you even talk to the Triage nurse. This is essential to ensure you get the proper care that is intended for you and not somebody else at the hospital. Those people have salaries, they're not your slaves, they have to get paid to be there. Depending on your compaint, by the time you get discharged, you and your information have probably already gone through a dozen or so other employees besides the Doctor, incluing pharmacists, pharmacy techs, nurses, nurse assistants, transporters, radiology techs, janitors, software techs, network administrators. These people all have employees who act as trainers, fail-safes and backups, and oversight over them to ensure you get what you're supposed to get treatment-wise. Those people typically get paid by the hour. That tylenol you're getting is individually packaged and counted and inspected by more than one person before it gets to the emergency department, to make sure it doesn't get mixed in with other medicines. There's whole processes that are involved to ensure you end up with the correct medication and to ensure the medications are sorted properly and store separately from one-another, because one mistake can kill you. They don't just open a bottle and give you a pill.This shit costs money. It costs money here and it costs money in countries with "Free healthcare". The difference between them and us is they pay 50% of their income and another 20% sales tax on everything to subsidize their medical care and we have private insurance.
>>519390697Anyone else ever notice how these clowns never show the insurance co-pay?
>>519396722I don't disagree, but a major reason why healthcare is retarded is due to admin costs. A lot of these jobs need to be phased out with AI and these bureaucrats are going to try to fight tooth and nail to impede technological progress.
>>519397699A major reason is because Obamacare said doctors can't own or run hospitals anymore, so now you had to add a new layer of business people to actually own and run the hospitals on top of the doctor who otherwise would still have been doing clinical work from the to time.
>>519390697Why can't you pay for it like everyone else?