>earth is 4.5 billion years old yet we only have 6,000 years of civilization..
>>519401684yeah it is like history they teach to us is one big lie and the real history is either behind locked doors or simple destroyed. too bad kikes failed that task tooKWAB's
>>519401684i thinks its more like 8000 for the first real cities, but there were towns before that and groupings of humans so human civilization is older than cities.
>>519401684Earth isn't billions of years old it's thousands. Just as when Adam was a day old he resembled a full grown man but he was a day old
>>519401684read a book8000 years of recorded human civilizationearliest humans only showed signs of existing 300,000 years agoearliest human settlements date back to about 125,000 years agoNot that odd.
>>519401684Is that what Gibson believes? So tired of Christians who believe in millions of year old evolution shit. It's so contradictory.
>>519402030this is why no one takes mutts seriously
>>519402030kys
>>519402179Earth ain't even older than 6000 years. The flood happened 4500 years ago. There was roughly 1500 years between Adam and Noah. 2000 years ago Christ walked the earth.
>>519401684Ice Age ended around 10k years ago which is the same time humans around the globe independently invented farming, after around 4k years of selectively breeding these grains, were they calorically dense enough where we could actually have civilization to start, people could live off their farm land, and actually made more than they could eat, before this point in history pretty much everyone had to constantly spend large part of their day foraging abd hunting for food, now you can just grow your own food, and do other things while taking care of it and waiting for it to grow.
>>519401684Don't trust scienceTrust me bibleSimple as.
>>519401976a civilization IS a city. You cant have one without the other. It's just human survival camps. Think of it in reverse, during the aftermath of a zombie apocalypse, some humans would team up. You wouldnt call that a civilization.
>>519401684>iteration #826
>>519402030based
>>519402195>>519402220Why do you both hate God this much? You're cucked to the zeitgeist. You will burn in hell for denying Him and no one will mourn your absence in heaven
>>519401684Nope, look up the mudlood. What you think was the 1700s was actually a million years ago and they powered everything with 100% clean atmospheric electricity.
>>519402030True
>>519402449little johnny too stupid to answer Mr. Dawkins question
>>519402472there are people who believe the earth is old and are also believers in god. God created the universe over a period of billions of years, he created worlds without end, and he created our earth last (and sent his Son here first). If you don't understand that, you're the heathen.
>>519401684It's a simulation
>>5194016846000 is just Saturnian Mumbo Jumbo. Doc Watson sang about this
>>519402449He is caught on ontological means or finally saw the world of non verbal communication
>>519401684what?
>>519401976>8000 years ago>fuck it, let's build some pyramids
>>519402030Nowhere in the Bible does it say the Earth is 6000 years old
>>519401684>>earth is 4.5 billion years old yet we only have 6,000 years of civilization..this is the second round of civilization For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished
>>519401684Wrong. Earth is also 6k years old ;)
>>519401684you know, you can still be Christian without fully believing in that, you aren't being judged on your ability to obsess over technicalities, pretty sure.
>>519401684Gobekli tepe?
>>519402277>this niggaYakub created white people 6600 years ago so the earth has to be older than 6000 years.>>519401684Yes civilization coincides with white peoples creation by Yakub.>>519403152Explain how Yakub created white peoples 600 years before your alleged “beginning of the earth”
>>519402942Doc was a Christian. Which songs are you referring to?
>>519401684>8,000 years of civilization>i only get to see 100 years of it
>>519403295No numerals post comes later, 6000 become cannon
>>519401684It's more like 30,000 years m80
Explain ancient sumeria
>>519402030What if God created a billion year old universe in just 7 days or 7000 years in earth years? All the light traveling billions of years ago, a billion light years away could have already been placed in just a split second to God.
>>519401976This is bullshit we became proper humans 100k+ years agooldest "cities" we know of at 15k years oldthere is no way we were banging rocks together for 150k+ years it doesnt make any sense (except for africans but thans because theyre other type of hominid)There must have been a civilization or at least "cities" older than 50k+ years for absolute sure we just havent found them yet
>>519402880Only true answer
>>519401684all lies, we will never know the truth
>>519403983technically I suppose he made it all in 6 days because the 7th he rested.
>>519402195Your flag has the Christian cross in it lmao
>>519403880Sumeria goes back to what like 5000 years?
>>519401976Wrong. It's 13,000 minimum for known civilizations. Something keeps habbening every ~12,500 years. It's probably been Humans building shit for 100,000+ years.
>>519403983why couldnt God have made people way before that we all know the bible is essentially a rememberance of an older thing ie pre-ur and was written by a bunch of randoms (first books were like 4 authors or something) taking the churches word on it is pretty fucking dumb and I believe a heresy because humans arent God they cant speak for him at all whatsoever specially with the sheer amount of books they ignored or discarded over the years
>>519401684>pretending god is real to own the libslol/lmao
>>519403880>sumeriaretard, you mean Sumer.
We are in the 6th "human" civ cycle. Third after we lost Nibiru and Mars during the Solar War. Second since the Mana Disaster burnt out our telekinetic abilities.
>>519404426Are you from the Berenstein or Berenstain timeline?
>>519402030This post brought to you by jenkem
>>519404073we WILL know the true is not that hard every year that passes we find older and older shit and you just have to ignore mainstream retardation because kikes rule it mycene and troy were considered the same as atlantis before we found they were real and even greek myths were technically right about them ie location of troy or that mycene was a naval power rules by a people that revered bulls
>>519402449christcuckery is indeed the mindset of a child
>>519404256I suppose the bible could just be a spiritual book and not a history book, or possibly a mix of the two, but when we study things like dinosaurs you have to be a priest to understand the spiritual implications, plus no one know if dinosaurs are real because in the museums they are all models and not real dino bones, so maybe dinosaurs aren't real. Maybe they are made up by jewxperts and niggers who worship the creature rather than the creator?
>>519404167hear ye hear ye
>>519402880Yes. Picrel is proof. We all drew it in the 90s with no internet or regional communication. The S is the company logo for the simulation programmer's company
>>519402449The pony can't see anything retard
>>519401684Earth has had many advanced civilizations come and go. Think of the earth as a ball of constant motion, like a cement mixer. We can’t see or contemplate this very well, but in the span of millions and billions of years the churn never ceases. It’s like a raindrop hitting your cheek. Given enough time that same water will travel the span of earth and reach the furthest depths and distances. So it is with the physical and solid elements on this planet. We can’t see much from the far, far past because it’s miles below the surface of the earth, being pulverized and liquified. Those that came before, long before the builders of the great pyramid, accomplished amazing things. Each civilization’s end is its own story. People think they are safe and secure on this pebble is space, but given time, we’re all ants — this is not to say we aren’t touched with the fire of life and the knowledge of our existence. Only that time waits for no man… and no planet. I met a traveller from an antique landWho said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stoneStand in the desart.[d] Near them, on the sand,Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,Tell that its sculptor well those passions readWhich yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:And on the pedestal these words appear:"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"No thing beside remains. Round the decayOf that colossal wreck, boundless and bareThe lone and level sands stretch far away.
>>519402449Yes a child has more intelligence than a fedoraEveryone knows this
>>519404426Sumer was the city itselfSumeria is the region it ruled overSame with Babylon/Babylonia
>>519404523Then a bit of help, humboldt current make the water cold, this happens all over chile, this were the bad beaches, not exactly jamaica
>>519401684We have 12,000 years of civilization at the very least, you historically illiterate golem. The earliest walled settlements in human civilization were even more ancient to the Egyptians than dynastic-Egyptians are to us.
>>519404502Its always a mix we cant discard the bible just because it has myth on it same we shouldnt have considerede minoan crete a myth just because myceneans though they had a minotaur there or whatever we DID find minoan civilization in the end after allthese mythological things are always based on truth in the end God know what the fuck happened before the younger dryas
If science lies about abiogenesis (it's logically impossible for aminoacids->peptides->proteins->proteins assembly into a self replicating organism to happen over the short span of proteins have before breaking down in water), what else ar ethey lied about?They "now" realize the T-rex couldnt be this heavy or his ankles would snap, but they re phds, they should have know that day one if they re actual professionals. Has this been made by the "science" division or the "propaganda" division?And if they spent tax money from USAID to brainwash the nepalese into atheism, who else have they been brainwashing?They want people to be controlled by bribes and threats and for that they need to kill god in people minds.
>>519404426ia suffix means 'land of'
god of the gaps VS abiogenesis MUST have happened double standard
They have global Census all the way back to like the 1500's. . . . as time goes on, do think. . . .>a.) Population growsOr>b.)Population declinesThe population has steadily increased in line with every single global census, to what it is now. In fact,you can trace the population all the way to the first person. This is just another very solid reason Christianity is the truth.GGz
>>519401684>we only have 6,000 years of civilization..aren't the pyramids like 6000 years old?aren't places like gobekli tepe like 10,000 years old?
>>519404778I don't count we know it happens but don't know how this is my theory a lieLike the famous lab dna generation, yes is a shape life takes he didn't knew life was there
>>519401684Not only has there been human civilization for longer, pre-humans are known now to have lived alongside us. Massive land changes have also likely erased a lot of early history, as civilization emerges around shorelines and there is likely truth to various flood myths as settlements flooded and were wiped out
>>519405088we cant fucking find the transitionary states. They say its impossible to fidn now because ther eis oxygen so it cant happen anymoreHow convenient. there isnt enough time befor eproteins break down. its logically impossible
>>519404020That or it could be that civilization is much more of an anomaly than you assume.It might be extremely unlikely to ever happen. And it could easily disappear.
The earth began in 2006, this is known
>>519405060what if pyramids were 20,000 years old? we'll never know because the head of the archeology shit in egypt is a mega shitter who doesn't want his stance proven wrong
>>519404020It's because we probably discovered fire a hundred thousand times before it finally stuck.A tribesman could have figured out fire and then got killed by a lion on his way to show everyone. Or killed by a man from another village for performing sorcery. Or simply figured it out when he was too old to tell anyone.Look at how quickly we advanced the moment we figured out how to harness steam.Look at how long it took for guns to become widely used, we had firearms while we still had knights in plate armor, but they were unfeasible for hundreds of years.Look at the fact that we lost how to make concrete for almost 1400 years.We've completely lost the recipe for authentic Greek Fire.Hell, half the shit Tesla was working on is completely lost because he didn't write things down. He just memorized it because he was a sperg. So it all died with him.Technological advancement is incredibly fragile, and if we lose an advancement we can lose it for centuries to come.Fourteen hundred years to rediscover concrete, one of the most absolutely fundamental building-blocks of our entire society. We've used more concrete in the last fifty years than we ever would have in those 1400 hundred years.
>>519401684Gobekli Tepe.Kike
>>519401684theres plenty of proof of older civilizations but nobody can read their writing so we just hand wave it. go look up the various cities and towns being found in south africa and other places using lidar. entire civilizations we didnt know existed have left their ruins all over the planet.thegovernment uses this technology to spy on you and make sure you arent growing weed or other bullshit. but it can also be used to find all kinds of cool stuff.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVAsTC83260
I suppose anunnaki came down and created humans with logic and reason then they learned over tens of thousands of years the labors of agriculture and learning math and science and then pre civilization happened about 150,000 years ago and now we’re the end result; Jews ruling over us and trannies everywhere.
>>519403300Doc was incredibly based and onto their tricks. The song is "Born 6000 Years Ago"
>>519401684The truth could be: there were once 132 advanced civilizations like ours, all of which disappeared. In all of them, there was a group of powerful people who enslaved the masses, either by force or by the power of religious lies, or both.This wouldn't end well for the current rulers.
>>519405060According to measurements we have zero comparison for. I'm not a young earth type, but the evidence for anything at that geologic scale of time is just laughable when you consider they're basing assumptions on assumptions.
>>519401684Because evolution. Shit takes a very long time
>>519404020you made me remember a retarded book i read decades ago about the agricultural revolution and how it changed the way humans it was something like>the agricultural Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human racecities were created to maintain the farmland, before that there were herders and hunter gatherers that WERE civilized, had specialized labor and language but lived in small groups that had to change location frequently to take care of the herd
>>519402289Why did nothing happen during the previous interglacial period? Or the one before that? Why did nothing happen in the tropics which were barely affected the glacial periods aside from sea level falling? I'm not disputing any of your statement. I'm asking what was different about this interglacial. Was it because our sister species had died off? Was it the Younger Dryas impact scenario? Or were there earlier civilizations that never quite made it to the Bronze Age before collapsing? I hope we will know one day.
>>519402406Civilization is defined by social hierarchy and division of labor more than anything else. This tends to occur in conjunction with permanent settlements and agriculture but not always.
>>519402449I wonder if AI will ever understand that it is a created being. Could it comprehend that another intelligence, completely different from it at the molecular level, designed, built and trained it. Would we be like gods to it?
For eons and eons before we built pyramids of stone humans had entire massive advanced societies built on wooden structures, basically like Japan was. Japan may literally be actually a surviving remnant of that (ancient Japanese look very similar to ancient egyptians).All of this wooden civilisation was dissolved into nothingness after 2 calamities, and that's when humanity started building with stone to cement the history permanently.If you honestly think humans started out building with stone and megaliths after hunter gathering, you might be supremely retarded like all archeologists are.Humans have had incredibly advanced society, arts and culture for 100 thousand years. It's just that only the last 6k or so has survived.
>>519401684The Sumerian Kings List documents history going back ~250k years, OP.Just because historians casually ignore a primary source document like that doesn't mean it isn't true.
>>519401684Civilization is fake and gay larp bound to collapse on itself so this checks out to me.
>>519405276I assume is an experiment you can just do they just don't correctlyI mean life exists, must have been created somehow, is not playing god is finding were your keys are
>>519401684>earth is 4.5 billion years oldYou bought it hook line and sinker, and now you're complaining that nothing makes sense. Not my problem.
>>519413767theres genetic evidence in selective breeding of agricultural seeds that cant be deleted by a calamity
>>519401684The belief that the world was created yesterday is perfectly suited to those born at that time.
>>519401684That you are aware of.
>>519401684What is supposed to be entertaining about this pointless contemplation of events that occurred before anyone was around who could and/or would document those events?There's nothing so amazing about our place in the universe. We are a species that is still exploring the development of intellect. That will likely stagnate once it plateaus on a level that is in parity with our sensory abilities.Since the 5 senses have been fairly well developed since the Cambrian era, I'd propose that understanding sensory data for anything requiring human intellect in order to make use of the data, perhaps some sort of ability to sense some kind of quantum level wind direction, would only happen in these times and therefore, we exist in this brief time of civilization because we haven't yet evolved the self-awareness and environmental awareness to come up with a definition for civilization that transcends our current limited place in evolution.When you're done with the naval gazing, maybe you should consider just how embarrassingly arrogant your grappling with God is. You might as well be an Opabinia claiming to be above all other arthopods because God has given you an immortal soul to go with your flappy mouth thingy.
>>519402610Earth, Wind. Fire. Water.Aether.
>>519401684Earth has been through many cycles. Some of the previous cycles humans actually developed inter-galactic space travel technologies and star gate portal systems and dimension travel
>>519401684YEC supports a number between about 10,000 and 6,000 years ago.10,000 seems better overall.
>>519406180>Technological advancement is incredibly fragilePeople take for granted everything we have now. Do you know how to smelt ore? Do you know how to tie a bow? Do you know what to do to shape copper into a weapon? Likely not. How long did it take us to reverse engineer Roman concrete? Part of the problem with /pol/ is that it's 45% ignorance, 45% jews pipulling and then 10% who may want to have a genuine conversation regarding this stuff. Look back at ancient Greek inventions well over 2000 years ago. They were remarkably advanced within the context of the time period.
>>519404167We're in something like the fifth iteration.>12K years ago was the Flood>second and final destruction of Atlantis>previous cataclysm was 25K-30K years ago?>Atlantis was heavily damaged but survived>The Land of Mu existed before that in what is now the Pacific>stone remnants on islands are supposed to be all that is left from that era>before Mu there was Lemuria in what is now the Indian Ocean>inhabited by a race of apelike humanoidsEach cataclysm reduces the number of human types and reorders the races.There are currently five or six different human types.Before the Flood there were over ten.
how old are you?that's how old "earth" is
>>519402030Based simulation believer
>>519402980That calculation is used by certain sects of Christianity and Orthodox Jews - its adding up the ages of men in the genealogy in Genesis.
>>519401684Thank goodness humans took so long to show up. Its been fun during my life, driving gasoline engines.
>>519404569>Think of the earth as a ballstopped reading there
>>519401684And sun is only 4.6 billion years
>>519413599potentially profound
>>519406180>we used more concrete
>>519403195Jesus was NOT nice:https://youtu.be/V8LW7DzESz4
>>519404167now you know why gobekli tepe was built... and then buried.
>>519403295
>>519404517I also drew this, but I always thought it looked more like an 8
>>519401684no human would endure existence in this shithole millions of years agowe are being played
>>519401684
The Hindu concept of Yugas describes a system of cyclical time that governs the creation, evolution, and eventual destruction of human civilization and the cosmos. Time is not linear but an endless cycle of creation (sṛṣṭi), sustenance (sthiti), and dissolution (pralaya). The Four Yugas (Ages)A complete cycle, known as a Mahayuga (or Chatur Yuga), is composed of four progressively shorter ages, each marking a decline in Dharma (righteousness, moral law), virtue, knowledge, and life span. These four ages are: Satya Yuga (Krita Yuga) — The Golden Age Dharma: Exists in its fullest form, metaphorically represented by a bull standing firmly on four legs. Civilization: Humanity is highly virtuous, spiritual, and naturally adheres to truth. There is no concept of crime, deceit, or conflict. People are spiritually advanced and live in harmony. Duration: The longest age, lasting 1,728,000 human years. Treta Yuga — The Silver Age Dharma: Declines by one-fourth; the bull of Dharma stands on three legs. Civilization: Righteousness still prevails, but people begin to rely on ritual and ceremony to maintain virtue. Warfare and the concept of a ruler (King) emerge to maintain social order.Duration: Lasts 1,296,000 human years. Dvapara Yuga — The Bronze Age Dharma: Declines by half; the bull of Dharma stands on two legs. Civilization: Virtue is significantly reduced. Diseases, dissatisfaction, and self-interest increase. Spiritual knowledge becomes more challenging to attain. The great war of the Mahabharata is traditionally said to have marked the end of this Yuga. Duration: Lasts 864,000 human years. Kali Yuga — The Iron Age (The Age of Conflict) Dharma: Exists in its most diminished state, with the bull of Dharma teetering on just one leg.
Civilization: The current age. It is characterized by materialism, greed, conflict, hypocrisy, and a near-total collapse of morality. The spiritual awareness and life spans of humans are at their lowest. Duration: The shortest age, lasting 432,000 human years. It is believed to have begun in 3102 BCE. Cosmic Creation and DestructionThe Yuga Cycle is part of a much larger timescale: Mahayuga: One complete cycle of the four Yugas totals 4,320,000 years. Kalpa (Day of Brahma): One day of the creator-god, Brahma, consists of 1,000 Mahayugas, totaling 4.32 billion years. During this day, the universe and its civilizations are created and sustained. **Pralaya (Dissolution/Night of Brahma): After the Kalpa, Brahma experiences an equally long night (4.32 billion years) during which the universe undergoes a period of dissolution (Pralaya). Life and all worlds are destroyed (often depicted as being submerged in a great flood) and rest in a state of potentiality. Re-Creation: When Brahma's "day" dawns again, a new universe is re-created, and the Yuga cycle begins anew with the Satya Yuga. This continuous, vast cycle of creation and destruction repeats until the end of Brahma's life (100 Brahma years), at which point a Mahapralaya (Great Dissolution) occurs, dissolving everything into the ultimate reality, only for the cycle of Brahmās and universes to potentially begin again eternally.The relevance of this concept is that it explains that the state of human civilization—its virtue, knowledge, and stability—is not static but perpetually rises and falls according to the dictates of cosmic time.
>>519401684Are you aware of the term ‘snowballing’?
>>519401684You what's some incredible bullshit?For roughly 200,000 years, every single thing that humans ever drew looked like picrel. This was it. This was the pinnacle of all pictorial art for two hundred millenia. Polaris, the North Star, would have accomplished at least seven precessions during that time. The Pyramids, the Collusus of Rhodes, the Hanging Gardens, the Cathedral of Notre Dame, and the Great Wall of China were all built during this period.And then, one day, for absolutely no reason at all, around 1400 AD someone decides to add shadows to a painting for the first time. Only then do we start getting drawings and painting with depth and perspective. Within a span of 80 years you get the Sistine Chapel. About 500 years later you start getting photorealistic paintings. Put a different way, we spent 200,000 years drawing stick figures and in that whole time there were 2,500 opportunities for someone to create the Sistine Chapel. People in 200,000 BC had the same anatomy, the same materials. And yet...nothing even remotely close to that is even attempted. That doesn't make any fucking sense. And what's weirder is the Romans were making anatomically accurate statues of people. But they couldn't draw the thing they just made? That doesn't make any fucking sense.
>>519401684Rather than arguing about the age of the Earth, we should be discussing its future, or rather our future. According to 98 or 99% of current models based on our current data and understanding, we only have about 50-100 million years of habitability left before this rock becomes too cooked by Sol to live on.Also Africa is expected to collide with Europe and Asia in 50 million years which might as well be the equivalent of a great extinction event. But I digress.It's kind of sad to think that our planet is already through 80-90% of its habitability years. Life has been existing on this rock for far longer, it's just that complex life took very long to develop.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn6fcA2JkPg
>>519419270The unfortunate truth is that humans function largely on imitation. Have you ever had a genuinely original thought or idea?
>>519413883Some of those kings supposedly reigned for like 6,000 years or more.
>>519419270Except all those frescos from ancient Rome.
>>519401684Why isn't there a single piece of fiction published with a plotline about if the earth was actually flat
>>519404499That's literally part of the text retard
>>519404517Yeah that's a 8
>>519401976Those towns were probably remnants after the previous civilization did what we're doing.
>>519401684>yet we only have 6,000 years of civilization*12-ish kiloannum.
>>519402179I thought first signs of humans using fire was 1.5-2m years ago
