Too much competition is destroying the Chinese economy according to the Wall Street Jewrnal. https://x.com/FirstSquawk/status/1979847473649918287
>inflationary spiral for wages>deflationary spiral for goodswhat does this mean
It's not "competition" per se, but sweeping deflation due to overproduction and collapsing demand, as well as the loss of government subsidies that led to the overproduction. Chink EVs and solar panels are just another iteration of the bicycle bubble from not that long ago.
>>519402265unprofitable factories
>>519402104China will fall all the way to the top of the world
>>519402104>Too much competition Go on, drop the market economy, revert to Maoism
if you kill your enemies, they win
>>519402265It's actually meaningless since neither of those is a money supply.I assume it means wages are going up and goods are going down, so labor is scarce and goods are abundant. Which is weird since goods being abundant makes sense with the tariffs, but labor being scarce doesn't, again, because of the tariffs.
>>519402423They don’t have a certain group of subversive people there.
>>519402477Yes it takes years for an economy that large to actually fall out....
>>519402104>wages are going up>goods are going down in priceuntil businesses go under I don't see a problem
>>519402104Too bad China isn’t run by communists who don’t care about private profit!Oh wait
>>519402696The problem is that the business are going under because they're all unprofitable. And that's causing a deflationary spiral of declining demand driving even more deflation.
>>519402265It's very anti-Semitic don't worry about it anon.
ov vey too much competition what about muh profits>>519402901lmao
>>519402712They can't operate at a loss forever, even being soulless commies
it's pretty easy to have profit. just cut the competition down to one monopolycomcast is buttfucking everyone here because there isn't an alternative
>>519402265Cheap things and good wages.
>>519402265Their purchasing power(workers) goes down, more unpaid time, longer expected hours, less vacation and health benefits among other things. Generally, you want Higher wages, higher demand for goods with moderate price increases. This is a non-nominal debt burden cycle. Implicitly, cost of living will also go higher as business and cites incur higher debt that can leads to sudden implosions that while on paper sounds good from this tweet makes every obfuscated.
>>519402901That'll reach an equilibrium though won't it? It's just a correction
>>519403427chinks have been doing deflation forever and has been collapsing for 40 years.to the west, that has been entirely taken over by jews, deflation is the bane of existence because number go down.Actually deflation is usually good if it comes from production of more goods. There is a world of difference between supply side deflation and asset price deflation.
>>519402265in the short term it feels good because you make more money and things are cheaper but it forces China to lean even harder on dumping massive amounts of exports into foreign markets.The rare earths are frankly the last big card China has as leverage for untrammeled access into the global economy and it's more than Japan had. Might be a saving grace but if they play ball too hard they'll push overseas supplies up. Started happening when they played hardball with Japan about 10 years ago but they dialed back after realizing they were going to fuck over their own racket. China isn't the only country with rare earths it just has lax environmental laws and all of the refining infrastructure. Not irreplaceable but it will take a decade or two to offset. Which will be a rough decade for China in specific and the developed world in general due to TBD.
>you don't understand, businesses need to pay laborers a slave wage and sell overpriced goods and services, or businesses will not surviveBoohoo lol
>>519403649zog countries are so brainwashed. they'll never figure it out.>>519403568good luck with the rare earths. Japan's been trying for 15 years.
>inflationary spiral for wageswages are rising>deflationary spiral for goodgoods are getting cheaperI can see why the yids are concerned
we have like AI that already spoonfeeds you the answer and still the zogslaves can't figure out the basic gist of it
>>519402104Sink the chink!
>>519402104Good, most people don't realize this but China has been the main way the Jews enslaved the Earth.China is basically what USAID was but on a global scale. IF China implodes the Jewish control over the Earth goes with it.The Rothschilds didn't found communist China for nothing after all
>>519403721If prices are getting cheaper, they're just going to correct wages retard
>>519402265anti semitism
>>519402104Great article blaming Chyna for jewish subverting tricks
but i thought they were a threat to us economy acc to the chinese funded news siteswhy would china lie to us, gow does that benefit china
>>519403819So the problem will be corrected?>THEIR WAGES ARE GOING UP THIS IS BAD!>THEY'LL LOWER THEIR WAGES THIS IS BAD!Cunt, get your arguments straight because right now you don't know if you're supposed to be performing a circumcision on a jewish baby or drinking the blood from a Christian one.
>>519403427Yeah eventually. Everything does eventually, including the entire universe.
>>519402281Damn, what nigger lives there?
>>519402265It means it has never been a better time to be a worker in China. Capital in China is naturally losing its mind.
Wait isn't this like a bunch of American monopolies hating all these China corps?
>>519402104>wages in China are high>prices for good are low>this is a bad thingEH?!
>>519402104I truly don't get these articles... OH NO PEOPLE ARE GETTING PAID MORE AND PEOPLE ARE PAYLING LESS FOR GOODS HOW HORRIBLE!
>>519402104Funny how "Marxist" China is more capitalist than America in healthy sense of this. Competition is literally designed to destroy profits and empower the consumers with a leverage. That's where the superiority of capitalism comes from. But America has already left that chat long time ago.
>>519402265It means they're richer than us.
>>519404795>>519404899at least the metodika for chink shills has gone out
>>519402104This is literally what they want lolThis is Xi’s ultimate gambit, they want to avoid the middle income trap that Japan and South Korea fell into.>>519402265They’re transitioning to first world wages and in the process are blowing up the old model of being a cheap factory country. Maybe this is the real reason they’re stockpiling gold
>>519402104>see Americans this is why we need tech monopolies
>>519404914Yeah I saw a Chinese professor say most Chinese brands won’t exist in 5 years that’s how intense the competition has become and all I could think was>wait that’s just proper capitalism meanwhile the west is bailing out banks and big corpos left and right
>>519405238bailouts weaken the systemyou don't have a capitalist system if you keep doing bailouts every 4 years. but the jews kvetch so hard when number go down... in the end you just have to buy gold since the risk has been transferred to the currency
>>519403568If I'm reading this right, it would seem tariffs from wealthy countries (like US) would be really harmful the China. Are they just taking it on the chin until they can't or what?
we're all running on fumes, except china is the gayest. their citizens want to fuck, and have fun. not work themselves to death with a gun to their head
>>519404914>Funny how "Marxist" China is more capitalist than AmericaThis bullshit line gets thrown away way too much. China subsidies it's major industries to undercut foreign competition so that we aren't able to compete.But now it seems like it supports it so much it's tearing it's self apart which is great
>>519405334>Are they just taking it on the chin
>>519404899I bet there are a lot of things about the world that you don't understand. Try running a business where you are increasing staff costs and lowering the price of your goods. It's so obvious to spot you wage slaves.
>>519402265Chinese are earning more and the stuff they buy costs less.
>>519404914China is state capitalistThe chinks realize going against capitalism ends in failure so they are trying to take control from the insideThat failed too thoughCommunism is a failed system
>>519405386>China subsidies it's major industries to undercut foreign competition so that we aren't able to compete.So this is what America is doing. Except China does it better and smarter (like everything else)
>>519405461China is officially a Marxist country. This is how they call themselves.
>>519404282That's right, nothing to worry about then
>>519405498no they gave up all the retarded commie stuff with Mao
>>519402265Wages rise and prices drop. Simple factory workers can afford too much. This is very antisemetic. Income must come from wealth, not work for a healthy economy.
>>519405314The US bailing out the tech industry in the future will be the funniest shit ever, one thing western leftists don’t understand is that the capitalists they claim to hate are the ones who abolished capitalism in the west. They lobbied for their own bailouts
>>519402104China population is collapsing. That's what's going on with their economy.
>>519405465>So this is what America is doingNot really except the car industry once during 2008 crash and the steel industry but that's for internal customers not international
>>519402104>>519402265>inflationary wages>depresionary goodsat this point journalists seriously need to be round up and executed by the state for spreading misinformation and abusing terms. The audacity of these mother fuckers pretending that higher wages for workers is bad while they compete with one another to make better products at lower prices. China is basically reaching 1950/60s levels of american wealth and its make the jews pissed because the entire reason they outsourced all our industry to thirdies is so that there wont be another middle class. But the chinese are building a bigger and better middle class than even the boomers had.
>>519405568You have a government job, don't you.
>>519404914This. China is capitalism on steroids with a government that directs it for the good of the people.At least that's what they try to project. Who knows the truth? All I know is that they seem to be winning and we seem to be giving a lot of richfags a lot of money while we suffer like slaves and ridiculed by our "betters".
>>519402104China has a fake economy like ours.Chinese economy>cheap labor produces items with a "large" profit>more and more people brought out of poverty in China on cheap labor>communist party is considered good and legit, so they get public supportuh oh>now companies losing profit>workers receive "higher" wages but less people brought out of poverty>chinese people not happy with communist party anymoreIn many ways kind of similar to our fake economyUS economy>constant inflation, money printing and loaning for investment/buying homes, cars etc.>wall street/banks profit, by making businesses, and people in US earn money (they keep earning less and less money over time compared to the past, but it's the bullshit thing of LOOK! Amazon invested $10 billion in bum fuck town. *Actual wages of Amazon wagie is like $12 per hour*)>built on an idea of perpetual debt and money printing>reaching turning point, can no longer keep printing money, because of inflation and other countries can't fund our debt>investment stops, job growth stops, which is why no one can find a job anymore>retirement delayed, no job growth, high inflation, debt economy, stagnant, decreasing wages>faith in system stops
>>519402104chinvillecovidland is a 3rd world country, pretending to be a 1st world country, while being propped up by corrupt politicians and greed corporations. chinks are the niggers of the asian race. Fuck china, let them all die.
>>519405396FUCK!!! Catcha Vagn4
>>519402281can I have some of these "cheap" solar panelshow cheap we talkingI mean 100% on $50 is $50
>>519402265It's what boomers got to enjoy.
>>519405590Fucking moron. Learn how Tesla came to be and how it wouldn't exist today if it wasn't for government gibs.
>>519405558Xi is closer to Mao than Deng but China never interpreted communism as “communism is when you’re a poor factory worker”, that’s why they say communism with Chinese characteristics. What they mean basically is that communism taken literally is just a system with minimal economic inequality, not that it means everyone is poor. Mao even said to be wealthy and rich is to be fabulous, they were never the western leftist view of communism which is everyone lives in a small rural town and no one works for a business
>>519405570yes when the big corps or big banks do something stupid and cry about it and they get uncle sam to take money from taxpayers to plug in the hole - that's socialism. I'm still in the camp that capitalism wins and socialism loses... the fucking chinks copied the capitalism that made the US into a powerhouse in 1940s while we have a socialized money printing where jews get free money all the time
>>519405727no you cant have them, because the jewish middlemen that control the resale market in your county have no reason to lower their prices since their partners in government make sure you cant directly buy them from chinese factories like they can.
>>519405678A bigger middle class? But the boomer middle class was in a fertility rate of around 5 kids per woman. China's fertility rate is below 1. So we know you are lying.
>>519402712Even commies like money.
>>519405417>I can't 10000x my money for doing a job like every other fucker? This will end the world, goyim. Trust me I RUN a business.
>>519405804China is dominated by industry, America (and the west) is dominated by finance. Very reminiscent of America’s rise as an industrial power
>>519402539>>but labor being scarce doesn't, again, because of the tariffs.This board frequently talks about the birth rate crisis, which is among the most acute in china because of the 1 child policy. 40 years of penalties and abortions is catching up to them there. And it'll be worse there because of the ratio of boomers to zoomers.
>>519405570Western "Leftists" are essentially useful idiots for corporations now. They so aggressively push in favour of mass immigration without realising it has drastically reduced the bargaining power of workers. So their response to being retarded is posting the cookie meme because they are completely incapable of thinking critically .... about anything, ever
>>519405776this
>price inflation and your wage being shit...LE GOOD LMAO are you westernoids even trying?
>>519405778>Teslaoh god 1 fucking thing in 10 years vs the entire chinese market being support by the CCP for the past 50 years
>>519402104China stole everyone's economy and now no one has the money to buy China's shit. How adorable.
>>519406010Just try it and let us know how it goes. Where do you think the money is coming from to pay the wage increases if they are earning less money on their goods? In your world it must come from a magic pudding. But in reality it comes from massive amounts of extra debt. just look up a graph of China's total debt. The workers are borrowing the money to pay themselves. Fuck you guys are dumb.
>>519405800Chinese Communism is more influenced by Confuscianism than people care to admit. It is a fundamentally nationalist movement.The Marxism-Leninism label doesn't stand for anything now
>>519406116Some tankies accuse the western left of being a creation of the CIA/MI6 to stop communism and they may be partially right, because they get riled up over fascism and cultural issues more than anything else
>>519406190Entire chip industry is subsidized too.Stop deluding yourself. USA does what China does but it does in American fashion - poorly in unorganized way with ineptitude and huge corruption involved. A standard thing.
>>519402104I’m afraid it is America that is collapsing, friend. China has contributed to its collapse sure. Trump is the antichrist and the end of America
>>519402104>trusing americanmutt newsThose faggots have reporting all over that the chink trade negotiator who made Scott Bessent piss himself have been fired or removed but left that he was promoted and will still deal with trade issues.
>>519406321Yeah. I see leftists saying "its the rich vs everyone else!" and then talk about whiteness and white privilege
>>519402696The real issue is it inverts the business cycle. Low inflation incentivises investment, future orders and stockpiling, both of finished goods and raw materials. You pay as soon as you can because in a years time your money will be worth 1% less right?Well deflation incentivses the opposite. Just in time production and orders because your currency will strengthen, meaning if you wait youre paying less for everything. Which means there is no pressure to consume anything you dont explicitly need at the moment. Which in the modern world isn't a big part of ANYONES spending. All this is good for buyers up until the game of musical chairs starts running low on spots. Jobs are lost and wages start dropping from competition and growth of buying power.
>>519406343>Entire chip industry is subsided tooEntire market in China is subsidized and now it's fucking failing. So I guess China can't do anything right, just like when they starved millions of their own people when china released their bioweapon COVID on the world. top kek
>>519402104Fierce competition about who can hoard most of muricans money.
>>519406447“The Rich” they mean are all white people. Even Cletus in his trailer with no teeth is supposedly far more privileged than fucking Jasmine Crockett
>>519406376There's too much fake news regrading China. It's one thing if it's those Falun Gong schizo but even legacey media is full of lies and half truths.
Chinese capitalism is absolute kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1dyI0vaRJ0
>>519402104Good thing they're doing it faster than us, that means we get to see into the future!
>>519406321Check out cointelpro in the 80sIt perfectly describes what happened in occupy wall street and the culture war. Again.Just like the right gets feds in every single right wing group demanding to bomb courthouses, the left gets the pozz of the pozz.
>>519402281>china has a lot of cheap shit Oh the agony
>>519406566>Entire market in China is subsidized and now it's fucking failingImagine believing that. China's exports are skyrocketing right now.
>>519402104Meh, at the end they'll still be Chinese and will still thrive.
>>519402587>china before collapse: almost exclusively full of chinese people>china after collapse: almost exclusively full of chinese peopleokay.
>>519402265It means if you have no labor laws, eventually you're going to live in a complete dystopia of slavery.
>>519404525Kek underrated
>>519402104i personally don't think there's a very deep collapse coming.
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>>519407072it's all they have
>>519404525Chinks are bleached Niggers, Anon.
>>519402104>TWO MORE WEEKSThey’re never collapsing and neither are we because neither of us make stupid moves like invading our neighbor for nebulous reasons.
>>519407169Chinese exports are flooding the global market because there isn't anywhere near enough domestic Chinese demand for their manufactured goods and lots of countries are putting up trade barriers so Chinese EVs don't destroy the equivalent industries in the countries importing these goods. Its not a good situation to be in even if people are probably blowing it out of proportion.
>>519402104How many times has china collapsed during this year?
It's over
>>519402104Good. Accelerate it.
