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Japan surrendered in 15 August 1945 due to sustained bombings, not the fake nukes.

https://6thbombgroup.com/superfortress/

The reason Japan
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im convinced it was used essentially for the lulz
>some german dork made a nooklear bomb, let’s test it out on the nips kek
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>>519439624
>Japan surrendered in 15 August 1945 due to sustained bombings
No, due to the nukes, and certainly fucking not due to the Russian.
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>>519439624
Hydrogen bombs aren't nuclear anyway.
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I think you form your own opinions without the assistance of others.
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>>519439821
Its a scam :)
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>>519439624
>the atomic bomb certainly expedited the collapse...
Which was all they were supposed to do.
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>>519441035
Check at the anove pick the mentioning if Hitoshima firebombing from a "small number" of superfortresses. Hiroshima was mainly wooden houses back then.
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>>519441232
At the above pic* (sorry but im phoneposting)
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>>519441232
>a "small number" of superfortresses.
but thats correct. they only had 4-5 airplanes out on the atom bomb drops. thats why the japs cancelled the air raid warnings when they saw them, because they were used to the massed flights of 100's for the firebombing campaigns and figured the 5 were just scouting or something.
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>>519440998
>scam
hurr durr i believe the enemy's propaganda during war, hurr
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>>519441382
> Tokyo said Hiroshima was struck by a "small number" of Superfortresses, dropping both incendiaries and demolition bombs

The small numbers in quotation marks is just jewish trick to avoid bad karma from lying. Tokyo plainly admitted Hiroshima was bomber by incendiaries and demolition bombs.
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>>519441577
a small number of planes simply couldn't cause that much damage. multiple eye witness accounts talk about both the small number of planes, the cancelled air raid warning, and the immediate effects of the bomb. that an initial report from the japs refers to what they know and are familiar with (conventional weapons) is hardly surprising, as they try to figure out what the hell just happened.
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>>519441929
Japanese people and american troops were threatened with death penalty if they spoke out
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>>519442359
prove that please, because i know what you're referring to. its just something you've misunderstood from a meme.
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US nuked Japan after they surrendered.
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>>519442448
evidence? the announcement came almost a week after the second bomb and wasnt signed until september
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>>519442424
There was apparently no radiation, nor the american troops arriving in Hiroshima at September 1945 took any protective measures.
https://www.fairewinds.org/nuclear-energy-education/pressing-issues-when-us-troops-were-exposed-to-atomic-bomb-in-japan
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>>519443326
its just a case of understand how and why nuclear bombs cause things to become radioactive and how long that effect lasts, depending on how they are detonated. When they explode high above the ground there just isn' that much irradiation of much material compared to if it explodes on the ground.

https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/physics/radation-hiroshima-and-nagasaki-bombings

read the section on Radiation.

if they'd set those bomsbs to go off at ground level, which would have been as easy as having them blow at the selected altitude, thigns would have been very different. but ruining the land was not the intention.
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>>519443326
and there were measurements done at the time. you just have to look more closely to find out

https://www.rerf.or.jp/en/library/list-e/periodicals/rerf-update/backnumber/recdostc/soldiers/
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>>519443326
Also, it appears that occupation troops didn't move into the cities until 45-60 days after the bombs were dropped. thats a long time for the short lived fallout to decay.

NTPR: Hiroshima and Nagasaki Occupation Forces
https://www.dtra.mil/Portals/125/Documents/NTPR/newDocs/6-DTRA-NTPR%20FS_H-N-2021.pdf

>Following the surrender of Japan on August 14, 1945, U.S. forces began occupying the country.
The first occupation troops arrived in the vicinity of Hiroshima about 60 days after the bombing. The main body
of occupation troops entered Nagasaki about 45 days after the bombing. In each city, a group of American
scientists from the Manhattan Engineer District arrived 3 days before these troops and performed a radiological
survey.
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The good guys win every single time
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>>519439624
The real reason Is pic related when the Soviets did a Blitzkrieg against manchuria completely annihilating the Japanese like we did with poland.
Japan saw manchuria as core territory so losing that was really bad for them and Soviets were anti monarchy and would have killed their 'god' 100% and saw a better chance to surrender rather to the USA first just like Germany did.
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>>519443326
Here's a report containing a detailed description of the radiological surveys carried out right before the occupation troops entered each city. There are are also maps showing the actual readings taken by those surveys.

Radiation Dose Reconstruction U.S. Occupation Forces in ... - DTIC

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA097038.pdf
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>>519445172
and just like with this, the second atomic bomb (at least) was a warning/bluff to the soviets to stop. Their war machine could have continued and divided Japan
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>>519445956
Could they? Their Navy was total trash and small so how could they transport over to Japan? Surely they could have taken all of Korea easily.
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>>519445956
yep. there was more than just the japs to consider thats for sure.



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