>Low crime rate>Full employment>Domestic manufacturing intact >Free healthcare>The state gave you a new modern apartment free of charge >Low utility costs (electricity was dirt cheap and water completely free)>Zero immigration>High birth rate, people with large families were entitled to special perks>Drugs and STDs uncommon>Homosexuality illegal and promiscuity frowned upon>Things like private banks or interest rates didn't exist so the majority of people had no debt whatsoever>Traditional culture was promoted, mindless slop was only popular in niche underground circlesAnd don't even get me started on how people who grew up during the Soviet era were/are both mentally and physically healthier compared to today's young adults...
>>519536361Depends on the era.The early years were insane jew going nuts with mass murders all over the place.Later on gentiles actually ended up subverting and taking over much of it
>>519536361>Drugs and STDs uncommonEver heard of Gulags?
>>519536968That's where they put all the fags, junkies and murderers.
>>519536361A russian tibla from Estonia writes about the great USSR:
It probably seemed like they were doing really well after Stalin finally fucked off to Hell, but it was still a shithole.
>>519536361in any socialist dump, someone gets robbed and pays everyone for equality
>>519536361Compared to current globohomo it looks downright peachy
>>519536968No such thing, there was only one GULag and the US has lagers (penal labor camps) too.
>>519538297https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1761071624821293.webm
>>519536361Yes, it was awful.
>>519536361well, the world went in a complete opposite direction to Soviet Union after it fell. Draw your own conclusions
>>519536361slavery. farmers not getting paid for their laborcannibalism because of faminesfamines killing over 10 millionpurges and crack downs. over a million placed in forced labor camps, some tortured, many murderedcommunists aren't big on the "free speech" stuff
>>519538058>>519538058Aren't you supposed to be running away from Le Evil Dictater Lukashenko or something?
>>519536361It was a genocidal hellscape in the beginning, got decent in the 50's and 60's and got progressively worse after that until everything sucked so bad in the 90's that it just collapsed. Such is the way things go with communism. Communists can't create wealth. They can only take it and use it until it's gone.
>>519538946they simply missed the money printer
>>519536361It was like the USA of the 1300s, but without all the food and resources.
>>519538887The gazelle was ripped apart after it was caught by the lions perhaps the free market decrees we all get eaten by lions!
>>519536754>>519536361It’s more that most of the soviet jews died flinging themselves against the germans in battle during the war. Afterwards, there were really only goyim left (the remaining jews left to america and israel). So the soviet union became a much softer, predominantly gentile version of its former self.Living there was still nightmarish compared to its contemporary late 20th century west (not the modern west).
>>519537827Also where they put smart people, generous people, religious people, and blonde people.
>>519538934I am an agent of polish intelligence
people weren't allowed to leaveof course it was bad, you retard
>>519536361>doing farm work>Fedorov Avtomat slung over my shoulder>Svetlana's massive tits jiggling with each stroke as she manually washes the clothes>not a nigger in sight>>Vasiliy and Ivan smoking weed behind the bushes>crippling jewish enslavement not in full effect>life is good
>>519536361The Soviet Union was the best thing in history
>>519539467What a schizo (or jewish) of version of reality
>>519539467Fun fact, weed was legal in the USSR.
>>519541438I'm asking without any negativity, are you estonian or russian? I'm czech and I love the USSR
>>519541869Doesn't even matter because estonians are genetically identical to Russians.
>>519536361It wasnt great but it wasn infinitely better than the modern west.
>>519538243Still better than being robbed for kike profits.
>>519536361I think what most people lose sight of when they think about communism is that the world today is an absolute irredeemable shithole compared to the 60s-80s.That's the primary reason behind the majority of ex-commies thinking communism was better, because they experienced communism in an era where the world was simply a better place.If you want to discuss communism as an ideology or system or whatever, you need make contemporary comparisons.That said, I do think communism, contrary to what Americans seem to believe, is far more conservative than contemporary western ideologies, both today and during the cold war, which lends itself to a more normal society even in poverty.
>>519542297not really, tons of nordic designer babies started popping up after1991, tons of estonians have direct swedish, norwegian or finnish ancestry
>>519536361>Low crime rateUnreported and the worst crimes were committed by the ruling Party elite who were untouchable>Full employmentAnd yet nothing got done >Domestic manufacturing intactLow quality trash that nobody wanted>Free healthcareHorribly broken system, dysfunctional and unsafe, usually founded on bribery system>muh apartmentShithole commieblock, basically a prison cell controlled by the government which you didnt even own (State ownership they could just evict you)>Low utility costsArtifically kept prices down which is why the system collapsed in under 50 years after WW2>Zero immigrationthats objectively false. plus USSR funded all nigger marxist movements in the world to start migration>high birth ratemid to late 20th cent. everywhere had high birth rate.>homosexuality illegalfaggotry was rampant in USSR among soviets e.g., "The Soviet Kiss">muh no private banksyeah because money was worthless as was your life, you had 0 savings no ability to progress in life>traditional culturecommunsim annihilated all traditional cultures and replaced them with globohomo slop.fuck off back to russia you retarded migrant.
>>519536361>"Let's group all the good things that happened in 69 years and ignore all the bad things", the post
>>519544234And what might all the bad ones be? That people who broke the law got punished just like in literally every other country?
Yes it was absolutely dismal and appalling. >nooo… everyone was trying to escape because cabbage fields oppression and misery rock!Silly nerk.
>>519536361Rubles were fucking worthless. Sure they had a printed value and you got them from your job but good luck buying anything.You needed western cash and the first people you met after crossing the border were money traders.
>>519542297You are russian
>>519544015>Shithole commieblockOh come on, compared to pre-Soviet housing (wooden hovels with no electricity, central heating or indoor plumbing), 1960s urban apartments were outright luxurious.
>>519545005What a stupid comparison. The USSR was a cancer that held everybody back and consequences from that time period are STILL being repaired.
>>519544015>Flag>Opinion on the SUDiscarded.
>>519543720The thing is the west was already trending towards our current degenerate hellscape before the SU collapsed. The US had already sold out it's infrastructure and Hollywood was already pushing race mixing and faggotry.
>>519545422Held everyone back from sucking nigger cock the horror!
>>519545422But for real, would you rather live in pic related or a brand new apartment that you didn't have to pay a single cent for?
>>519536361USSR was great>trade embargo by the west>but good trade relations with Finland through bilateral trade agreements>USSR tech and manufacturing is behind>so they sell massive amounts of cheap resources to Finland>Finland gives high-tech, highly refined products back>basically a reverse-colonial economic relationship (the big empire provides cheap resources to the small nation and buys expensive good = reverse of colonialism)>be Nokia>sell telecomm systems to USSR with 500% profit margins because no competition>put all money into R&D>make a better phone than motorola and conquer the world
>>519544359Around 40 million dead total with half being civilians.No freedom.Funding of towns was cut as they saw fit.Famine.Just to name a few.
>>519538887>a disinformed, demoralised Rusnigger >"we are laughing"Why are you deliberately trying to be a nigger? Oh, because you literally fought us when we tried to save you from jewish Bolshevism. You had your "commie" fantasy. Now the inmate is nostalgic about his prison.When will you show some White pride?
>>519545801Buddhism is shit, the russians did it right
>>519545558I know, that's why I said communism was more conservative during the cold war as well
it was better by every single metric and I'm tired pretending otherwise. But we can't go back in time, only move forward
>Estonian flag posting about how things were so much better under soviet assrape occupationYou're not even trying Vladimir.
>>519545998You're no longer human.
>>519546312>assrapeFaggotry was a felony.>occupationLook up the Estonian-Soviet Mutual Assistance Treaty. The Red Army was officially invited in.
>>519545745In finland, muslims make up 3 percent of the population, finland's history is over
>>519546378Keep hiding behind the meme flag, pajeet
>>519545904>>519546419What explains this behaviour?
>>519546312Estonians greeted the Red Army with flowers
>>519546416>The Red Army was officially invited in.According to russian rewritten history. They forced themselves onto Estonia and other Baltics. You lie like a russian.
>>519536361Sounds like Nazism but much much worseNazism was actually very good and didn't sell it's banks for foreign ones like Lenin did.
>>519545580How brainrotted are you>>519545743>you have to chose between a village or a commieblockAnd the answer is: I don't have to, because the shithole USSR died in less than 50 years after WW2 and life is better.
>>519546677You're not even swiss, you're a muslim migrant brought in by capitalists to replace the white proletariat
>>519546677>rewrittenThat's where you're wrong, bucko. Even the most liberal pro-Western historians admit that such a treaty did exist.
>muh kacap union pedorussian spam threadrussniggers are subhuman garbage and I'm tired pretedning otherwise
>>519546780Ok pedorooskie
>>519546904You have AIDSopinion discarded
>>519547008WOLYN
>>519539032No. They tried to feed the entire world while also spending too much defending from the jewsa. Imagine if it was allowed to prosper on its own and folks in the west saw that they were slaves but with extra steps? Oy vey...
Soviet Union was a racist totalitarian shithole. Fuck them and fuck incels worshiping it.
>>519546904Can you link to one such pro-Western historian that says the red terrorist army was invited in and welcomed with flowers? Just one. You lie like a russian.
>>519547008My parents are czech, stupid polish pig
>>519547181Even government agencies acknowledge the treaty's existence. It's far from being some fringe conspiracy theory.
>>519547216made your shitty meme betterenjoy
>>519536361what did they mean by this?
>>519547680She dreams about a real cock, not tiny pedorussian mongolian pecker
>>519545745The Stalin era was rough though. American envoys were careful not to befriend Finland. No money to import western goods. Rationing stamps well into the 50s. Shit soviet cars everywhere, unless your job was important to let you import a western car. Forest manager bought a VW Beetle every year and sold with a profit when he was allowed to import another car.
>>519547614The final solution of the polish question
>>519539152>>519536754This HAS to be true for the simple fact my jewish father was uncircumcised and so was I because i was born in soviet kiev 91. My father and his mom made the soviet union out to be these semi benign nazi figures that just simply denjed them privileges being jews in 60s soviet union. My mom's side if the family seemed to live the meme 1950s American lifestyle. Your milage may vary
>>519539152>jews dying in battlejews just left before the war happeneda few of the retarded ones who stayed behind got purged by stalin
>>519536361>luddite>communist>jewish>faggyyes.yes, it was that bad and worse.
>>519547899the final solution to pedohivssian qeustion
>>519537827the fags, junkies and murderers were running the entire state you stupid motherfucker
>>519536361>Was the USSR really that bad?Yes.
>>519547977that's a liehivlin loved jews
>>519547392You lie like a russian.
>>519536361>Domestic manufacturing intact >Free healthcare>The state gave you a new modern apartment free of chargeHAHAHAHA!!!!!!Nigger no doctor did anything whithout a bribe, there were no flats or houses you could get without bribes and with even it was difficult, LOL what a russian fantasy!!!, manufacturing hahahahahha, you couldn't get anything anywhere at all for some spareparta for your fridge, car (luxury!!!) or oven you had to trade on the black market nylons > beef > coffe > sparepart . Yes it was that ridiculous.
>>519536361No, but it failed for a reason, it was unsustainable. Any country can spend outside of it's means to assure a good life for a limited period of time. If it's unsustainable, what value is it long term. It's convienient that the story of the USSR ends in 1991, but the problems it created continued on. Russia in the 90's should really be viewed as a continuation because they had to deal with the problems created by the USSR.The way they achieved full employment was by operating the means of production at a loss in many cases, propped up by more profitable sectors like oil. That's why entire industries and towns reliant on those industries died over night the moment they went free market. They were unprofitable and would have stopped existing decades ago if it was a capitalist economy.In the west today, we're doing the same thing, spending outside of our means in order to maintain a standard of living, but it's also catching up with us. For different reasons of course, our countries aren't in control of the economy like they were, but they do influence it in significant ways and are directly responsible for out sourcing manufacturing which has generally caused poverty to increase as the lower classes become more reliant on low paying service sector jobs.
>>519548243How so? Even fucking Wikipedia confirms the document's existence.
>>519536361I lived in the USSR back when I was just a crayon. Hung-out with the Momdad unit at the Canadian Embassy. Shopping and TV was mostly shit, but street crime was non-existent as there was a militia man with a rifle stationed every few blocks in downtown Moscow anyway.