Reminder that the way to gain the upper hand in marriage, and have a happy one, is always to be equally or more invested in the wellbeing of your kids. And yes, that means more than "providing". It means investing your time and engagement.
Put another way, if you care more about your wife, and how much sex you're getting, than you do what happens with your kids, then you're doing it wrong and deserved to be divorce-raped.
>>519687793Do you have a kid? Just wan't to know if yoy got a horse in this race.
>>519688952Yep, two.
>>519689280cool. women are shit. best wishes.
>>519687793>tradcuck blames men for everything, acts like women are perfect angels to can do no wrong and the status quo is fine
>>519687793>>519687865Women initiate over 75% of divorces. I think it may even be up to 80% by now. Those bitterly divorced men are only so because the WIFE decided to end it.
>>519687793>blah blah blah shame shame shame reeeeshut the fuck up, hole.
>>519689612husband thought the more important bond in the family was husband - wife>I bought her the flowers and the diamonds I followed the rules where is my sex?
>>519689666I'm a guy. A non-failed one, throwing you a bone.
>>519690013*lending you a hand
>>519689958Irrelevant. It is the WIFE that initiates divorce, not the husband. You're suggesting the husband is doing all these things and that causes divorce, but that is not true in nearly 80% of cases. It is the WIFE that is responsible.
>>519689581>women are perfect angelsWomen are fucking annoying oversized children, but they have simple on-point priorities: your kids
>>519690262Except when 80% of them divorce their husbands and ruin their children's lives through single motherhood, all so they can cat around with strange men.
>>519690175I am explaining to you that marriage is a contest who contributes the most to the future of the kids and if you win that contest your wife needs YOU and not just a bank account, any bank accountPearls before swine, but I cant just give up on you anon
>>519690376Anon, men are not the ones asking for divorce. So why are you telling men what we must do to prevent it?>who contributes the most to the future of the kidsSingle mothers ruin their children's lives. And yet it is WOMEN that put themselves, and their kids, in that position in 80% of cases.
>>519690376Marriage has been kiked to oblivion by no fault nonsense, and anyone still advocating for men to put their heads on the chopping block because “it’s just what men do” is either a kike or a woman and needs to kill themselves immediately
>>519690262Feminist lies. You worship women and see men as disposable slaves.
>>519690815Because men, especially men with good judgement, are needed in their kids lives, so men ought to learn the tricks preventing their stupid-ass wives from divorcing them?But I hear you're another of the huge class of people out there who is only interested in "NOT MY FAULT", rather than in controlling and shaping your own reality
>>519687793>still believing in marriagekys braindead retard
>>519690376Narcissism is a personality disorder.Bpd is a personality disorder.These things aren't going anywhere unless you physically intervene.
>>519692128You'll never get anything done in life by focusing on corner cases (and if you married one, good luck)
>>519687793>how else can I blame men todayamazin'
>>519692817So what you saying is that if a women marries a narcistic man, its the man's fault. If a man marries a bpd/npd woman it's the man's fault.
>>519692926I grew up as an only-child so this mentality is completely foreign to me. But after raising close-age siblings I now understand what drives this "NOT MY FAULT", and "THE IMPORTANT THING IS WHO GETS THE BLAME" mentality.It's 100% antithetical to personal responsibility and getting shit done, though.
>>519693797Do you want to control how your life turns out as a FUCKING MAN would, or do you want to assign blame after you failed?
>>519690262I wish this was true. My wife just wants to fuck me all the time. But I want to play legos with my sons.
>>519694062See, I told you
>>519687793imagine not wanting to play with your own kids.they are truly so amazing and playing with them is a constant sensation of reexperiencing the joy of my own childhood, and the love I felt for my own parents.It's an overflowing of love.
>>519687793The way to gain an upper hand in marriage is to get a prenup.
>>519687793I actually agree with you completely. I am completely bored and 100% over my wife. I hav more fun at work flirting with the office girls than I do her. We don't even sleep in the same bed anymore. But I will gladly spend time with my kids. And it's not hard for me because she "never wanted to be a mom" so me just spending a very small amount of time with them "wins" this dynamic>>519690376The only thing I will disagree with you however are women who think they are giving more attention and time to their kids even when the man is. I spend the majority of time and attention with my children and my wife still says stupid shit like "oh but i CARVED PUMPKINS with them!" yeah ok. My wife is a career-focused brainwashed person
>>519691569>so men ought to learn the tricks preventing their stupid-ass wives from divorcing themYou're so damn stupid. You're literally advocating for "tricking" wives to stay with you, and if you don't "trick" your wife, then it's your fault when SHE decides to abandon the family and raise your kids as a single mom.You are so damn retarded that I pity you.
>>519690175Have you thought of not being a squealing farting good for nothing pig? That would keep the divorce away i reckon.
>>519691569Good points, this is the trvke that modern "men" can't bear. Patriarchy means male leadership, and leaders assume responsibility for everyone they lead. Men who whine about divorce are feminized and obsessed with feelings over duties.
>>519694909Your duty is to raise children. Children objectively flourish the most under married monogamous parents. You have to figure out how to win, it's that simple. Not trying because your feelings will get hurt is feminine behavior.
>>519694715>I spend the majority of time and attention with my children and my wife still says stupid shit like "oh but i CARVED PUMPKINS with them!" yeah ok.Because whatever they say, a huge chunk of their sense of self-worth is tied up in how they perform as moms. So openly admitting to being outcompeted at parenting is beyond humiliating. But she still knows you're holding the cards so she wont actually do more than yapping
>>519687793I’ve read so many stories of wives resenting their children for having the attention of father and father for being more beloved by the children. But I wouldn’t expect a swedecuck to have anything intelligent to say about gender issues.If you want an emotionally stable wife set reasonable boundaries and enforce with the back of your hand.
>>519690376>marriage is a contestThis is true, its also a staged contest. Marriage comes with more rules than "may the best man win" and the rules vary by state.
>>519687793Truthnuke
>>519695423I'm not so sure every woman is motivated by kids. Maybe subconsciously its the "real wiring" but most women nowadays are wired for money and endless sex with chad tl;dr whores dont make good moms
>>519695701The women in my life, issues that they've all had, had good relationships with their own moms and came from well-to-do (upper middle class) homes. That's all I have experience with and can speak to. My wife is far from a career woman, but like yours never much wanted to be a mom. More a vapid spoiled lazy kid living off her dads paycheck her whole life.But when push comes to shove she'd be embarrassed to fail where her mom and sisters succeeded, and that's why she begrudgingly respects me when our kids are doing well.
>>519696151I think your theory is correct, what about those superdads who end up getting divorce-cucked anyways?
>>519696279Maybe they thought they were superdads, while their kids grew up basket cases? Maybe they married the girl from the local strip joint? How the fuck would I know
>>519687793No, it's women being whores in the west, the west has fallen. Time to move east and let the west rot.
>>519696429im just saying i think this is probably true in 80 or 90% of cases10% of women will probably not give a fuck if you are the better parentmaybe im wrong tho
>>519690815He's saying that women won't initiate a divorce if you're the one taking care of the kids because they realize it will mean having to take care of the kids half the time. They'll piss and moan and complain, but they'll stay married to you because they're lazy as shit and it's easier to come home from work and spend 5 hours on their phones then go to sleep than it is to have to actually take care of children during that time.
>>519696486Yes, 100% agree to that. Same thing as someone is told: "work hard, be smart and you'll get ahead". But maybe they're working for an idiot. Or maybe they're idiots themselves. Good advice can only do so much
>>519687793thats wrong, it is out his hand and the age of feminism is coming to an end mathemathical
>>519687793sadly, no. the one who is least invested in the relationship holds all the power
>>519695165>>519695356>muh duty>muh Real Men(TM)You won't get what you want out of us with browbeating and shaming. Men aren't disposable, even if you think we are.
>>519690057Lending you a dick, grinding you a bone.
>>519697546there isnt a relationship in marriage and if there is you're doing it wrong, you daft fuck. That ended when the ring went on the finger.
>>519689581If women are inferior then it is the fault of their superiors if they are behaving badly
>>519698475that's pretty much what i said, sven
>>519687793It all falls apart in family court.The man could be the best father and completely devoted to his kids, providing them with the time, attention, emotional support and resources a kid needs to develop into a successful adult - it all falls apart in family court, with a liberal, female, or jew judge.God forbid if the judge is all three, punitive, and loxist. I've seen this exact situation destroy men completely. Kids removed from father's custody, given to negligent mothers. Alimony and child support with father's wages attached, crippling his ability to provide.In many courts, judges are appointed and not elected.We live in Babylon, court is their temple, judges are pharisees, lawyers are scribes.
>>519697546this is true for the husband - wife dynamicNOT for the parent - children dynamic.t. knower
>>519698791You wouldnt have ended up in family court if you had followed my advice. Or if you married an iredeemable 5% percentile whore, in which case you're a retard and nothing can be done for you.
>>519687793Statistics show that children raised by single fathers fare significantly better than those raised by single moms. This is the more surprising when you consider that single dads almost never receive any kind of payment from the kids mom, and they have to go work and can’t spend much time with the kids.
>>519689514holy based
>>519699375bullshit, I've seen women just want to cash out and divorce rape the husband.
>>519687793> having children under jewish feminist ruleCouldn't be me, sorry
>>519687793How are you gonna do that when people believe women's lies over your honesty and do their best to keep fathers out?I'll tell you how.. overthrow the system. Don't want to? Enjoy the libtard/feminism cancer spreading till it corrupts everything and leaves you no other option anyway. Women are the enemy that plays both sides.All philosphies and systems will work if people cooperated and were fair, honest, reasonable, etc(overal good) with eachother.But women are always dishonest, manipulative, uncooperative, selfish overall inherently evil.They see men build something amazing and every single time they go and destroy what we've built and play victim to steal from it until it loses all of it's quality and becomes completely corrupt. They're parasites who will do anything to turn men against eachother.They're the reason our competitive spirit sometimes goes overboard.They're the reason a joke is taken too far.They're the reason problems exist.They're the reason wars exist.Simps are just blinding themselves by playing along with them until so much damage is done that even the most pro-women guys eventually turn against women. But by the time this finally happens they're now in the minority and are stuck dealing with other younger simps and women actively corrupting everything in their path.Pretty soon the number of men who have suffered from this will grow so large that we will overthrow this faulty system all at once in every country but sadly we're in the worst times.The ones who are currently 30-50 and younger will probably end up suffering the most until the number of sufferers grows so much as to become unignorable.This is what happens when you believe women morons. Record this in history and NEVER let it happen again.
>>519698597That's retarded femoid gotcha needs to die. If a subordinate fucks up it's still the fault of the subordinate, not the manager
>>519687793desu i think the difference I have personally seen between successful and unsuccessful marriages in my life is growth mindset.All failed marriages include at least one partner who refused to grow.All successful marriages involve two partners who are growing, advancing in their careers, their knowledge, achieving goals, seeing and doing new things and making plans, and importantly communicating and coordinating.Honesty around money and the time:money tradeoff is the most important. My parents have been married 35 years, no cheating and almost no arguments. They each have their own money in linked accounts, both can see all of the assets of the other, no hiding but also no dependency or fighting over a shared resource. Double income households are the reality these days and are healthier for it, domestic duties alone will not keep a partner busy enough and idle hands are the devil's workshop. The entire idea of having a kept domestic slave-woman is actually a recipe for cuckoldry or divorce rape. Chuds will freak out over this comment but it's true.
