0/10 libtard propaganda
>>519742668>why do you all think that isBecause most atheists are white
>>519742668Rural evangelicals that actively shun learning and retarded Mexican Catholics bring the religious IQ way down. Atheists are almost exclusively white and Asian.
>>519742668>over 6000by how much?I will not believe it unless the sample size is at least 6 million
sage>>519743089and going extinct >>519743306because they're communist.
>>519742668"Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation. Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived fewer reasons for living, particularly fewer moral objections to suicide. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder." - https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.ajp.161.12.2303
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>>519742668God worshippers suck
>>519744321what are the esoteric implications of traveling in the loop? are the harvesting vril from people who pass through their portals?
>>519744460>what are the esoteric implications of traveling in the loop?I don't know what's esoteric about the competency crisis. They did a worse job at laying tracks than a Mexican cartel under the US border, so they switched to a simple asphalt road instead.
>>519744422>Christian>pastorDo Polynesian cannibals really?
so lazy
>>519742668The truth is, intelligence is predetermined since birth. The more intelligent you are, the more obvious you will never follow a mass organized religion. But most subhumans just find another religion like woke culture or fauci science. Only around 1% in the world are humans who are actually intelligent enough to live their life without a doctrine. And know that I think all the rest should be exterminated.
>>519742668athiests break their own rules of non belief simply believing there is nothing.if you're unsure of God at work in your life the only reasonable position is to be agnostic. to claim that there is nothing is to know that there is nothing and that fact is a certainty only for the purely deluded
>>519742668>According to a studyLet me guess, they didn't use IQ to measure intelligence because IQ is "problematic" so they invented some completely arbitrary metric that uses "education level" as a heuristic for intelligence, but don't control for the type of education and claim people with meaningless, 105 IQ liberal arts degrees are more intelligent.
>>519742668>atheistsThe most unintelligent laziest cunts iv'e ever met
>>519744422Why does God upset you so much? what did he ever do to you he is the reason you are here right now be more grateful
>>519744952>text says textare you also nytimes subscriber fool
>>519742668Darkness (void) ── Spark (fertilization) ── Division (cleavage) ── Hollow Vessel (blastocyst) ── Folding (gastrulation) ── Axis (neurulation) ── Multiplicity (organogenesis) ── Dreaming (fetal) ── Birth (breath) ── Cry (Word)
>>519742928god worship can only be defeated by the purest atheist
>>519742668>Atheist group is full of 100-120 IQ people who are able to reason their way out of religion>Theist group includes 70-100 IQ people who are too retarded to reason their way out of religion>Theist group includes the 130+ IQ people who acknowledge the existence of God (or a being close enough to being God), but also know organised religion is false, it is still a benefit because it provides a common culture across regions and a moral framework for low intelligence people>The larger number of low IQ people drags the average score down to below the average 100-120 IQ midwitsmidwits once again only do basic research and don't truly understand what they're looking at
>>519742668Atheism is for white people, religion is for brown people.
>>519743089Because "religious" counts africa, the middle east, latin america, Australia, latin america, India, etc that all bring the average down.Meanwhile Atheism only has the french and lithuanians bringing down the average.
>>519742668this should explain anon
>>519742668Athiests have a very large peenisUs Christians very small penis so small so small.Athiest very big brain yes yesChristian brain is like Giraffe brain. Smol.
I'll consider an athiest viewpoint when a single one of them makes fun of jews (they won't, because they worship not being called antisemitic)
>>519742668atheists are the only people who matter
>>519746379Obviously
>>519747622You are brown.
>>519742668The Synagogue of Satan (Edomites who LARP as Judeans) understood that the only way to win was to attack the very foundation of civilization, Christendom, itself.The Synagogue of Satan does not fear anything except for Christ and His followers, the Christians.Only Christianity is capable of saving this world, every other ideology, religious or secular, is merely a denomination of Satanism (anything that does not belong to Christ, belongs to Satan) and helps to further push this world down a path of self-destruction.FeministAtheistLeftistHinduistSatanistHomosexualistPaganistTranssexualistSophistNihilistSatanistMaterialistCommunistFascistCapitalistIslamistAnarchistDemocratRepublicanLiberalNeoconservativeetc.So on and so forth. All adherents of a non-Christian belief system are simply Talmud-loving slaves of Satan who, at their core, wish to destroy civilization, and so nothing they do, say or think truly matters. After all, they are blind & deaf, not possessing wisdom as the Israelites (Christians) do.All GOOD science & technology descends from Christendom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yi3BQLdndIChristianity is the only Truth and the only way to build a better civilization, a better world, for Man.Ever since western civilization had divorced itself from Christianity, we've been in a death spiral ever since.
>>519742668Atheism is literally racism. Why cant white people be religious like us black folks?
>>519744952now how many did not fulfiled and how many were so vauge that they eventualy bound to happen in 3000 yearsyou do not have to follow all christian values and belive in god, just pick the good ones and be good person, acording to catholicism you will be saved regardles if you were a good person
>>519748425they all touch kids thats why they hate atheists because they get called out
>>519746971/threadhow do i know it's true? experienced it
>>519745224>atheists break their own rules of non belief simply believing there is nothing.The bible thumper cope, never fails.
>>519749229Theists are just trying to justify being pedos
>>519749300Are you Indian by chance?
I too fell for the million year old Earth and dinosaur meme when I was younger
>>519742668atheism won because its right this causes niggers to seethe
>>519742668>stock art specifically targets ChristGonna need an early life on the researchers.
>>519749868Atheism is the religion of redditors, communists, tumblrinas, and other mentally ill lefitsts.
>>519744346>the science works>his legs don’tCurious.
>>519743416Confirming that you don't understand statistics. You should be asking what the margin of error is.
>>519749910Atheism is a lack of belief in god, gods or religion.
>>519750055whatever helps you sleep at night.New Atheism+ is a thankfully dying sect filled with some of the most insufferable individuals on the planet.Feminists, LGBT, Trannies, etc.They're all Atheists lol.
>>519742668Most are agnostic. Either way, imagine being an “enlightened atheist” and still being cattle making below average wage lol
>>519749910It's also what almost all of the highly educated academics believe, and they advance all of the fields.We could talk about the Walmart Americans and Basketball Americans that believe in your christcukery? But you wouldn't like that, or think it's fair.
>>519742668>I don't believe it so its just not trueoBviously the world revolves around these people and everyone else is only in the way
>>519750214>Theist pretends theres more than 2 choices to a binary question ahahhahaha
>>519750214If we're going to play this game.Gnostic TheistAgnostic TheistGnostic AtheistAgnostic Atheist
>>519750430So there’s 75% that believe God exists? I’m heckin btfo…
>>519750322incorrect, the GREAT MAJORITY of GOOD scientific/technological advancements have come from Christendom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yi3BQLdndI66% of Nobel Prize in Science laureates are followers of Christ.Pretty much almost everything good has always come from us, rarely from any non-Christians.
>>519750593>incorrect, the GREAT MAJORITY of GOOD scientific/technological advancements have come from Christendom.No, and that's not what I said.None of it came from Christianity. Stuff came from Christians doing secular work.Now, focus on what I actually said.>Pretty much almost everything good has always come from us, rarely from any non-Christians.Christcucks were dragged kicking and screaming into the modern world.
>>519750656Incorrect again, we created civilization, you non-Christians ruined civilization.
>>519750695Christians are anti-white and anti-civilization; they are the dark/regression age for a reason
Australian shitposting >>519742668Reality>>519750106>>519742928
>>519749868its common
>>519750961>Christians are anti-white and anti-civilization; they are the dark/regression age for a reasonwe know
>>519742668Believing in God in the West(Christianity) is just blind obedience to the clergy and the doctrine.
>>519750430
>>519753012>Believing in God in the West(Christianity) is just blind obedienceits fiction worship all supernatural worship is
>>519744346what they are
>>519753303
>>519749997>did not pick up on the sample sizelurk 2 years newfag
>>519753012Monotheistic institutional religion has always been about sanctifying authority. It's the primary reason given for the adoption of the Christian faith by every powerful leader who adopted it; they liked the idea of a single God who commands absolute loyalty and being his representative on Earth.
>>519742928Shut up nigga, your prophet got his back btfo like a saturday night whore
>>519753425>>519753126>>519750430>who hates atheistsgod believers the people who hate whites
Atheists confirmed midwits.
>>519742668>>519742668that's funny, I went back to Catholicism after I was old enough to see Family Guy was fake and gay.Psalm 18:21For I have kept the ways of the LORD, and have not wickedly departed from my GodI didn't need to see the hourglass nebula to convince me.
The AI is my best. You glowniggers are finished.
>>519753878>came out of his padded cellBut forgot to take your meds?
>>519754165I just woke up, and the first thing I dId is to come here and looking for WAR. Lo, and behold! I found WAR.
>>519749910>redditors, communists, tumblrinas, and other mentally ill lefitsts.In other words: White people.
>>519743089>>519743306>Because most atheists are high IQ racesLol, nope. Just look ITT.>>519742668>So atheism was the correct optionIn the study, they never quite defined "believer" and "non-believer". For example, shitskin atheist religions like Buddhism or Daoism were used to lower the "believer" average (remember SEA's and China's IQ is really low). But nobody on /pol/ ever actually reads studies, because you are brown, too. So it's all just shit-flinging anyway.
>>519754477>redditors, communists, tumblrinas, and other mentally ill lefitsts.>White peopleBrown finger typed this post from a socialist shithole.
>>519742668its one of the best defense mechanisms against judaism and islam because their religion aint real. theres no legitimacy they can have, and must be judged by as a people. not even justifying atheism through science. there is nothing so good to be considered god, not even our supposed creator.
>>519744952>>519749065There's also the ones Jesus just deliberately fulfills because he knows what they are. The famous quote about "go and buy a sword" is about this. There's a prophecy that the messiah will be counted among robbers and thieves, which means having an armed companion, so Jesus just tells some guy to go buy the sword so that when he gets arrested he can technically say he met the prophecy. Buying the sword serves no other purpose because it gets used once and Jesus immediately heals the damage, then lets himself get led away. It was done only to tick a box, the text in Matthew at least literally says as much.The Gospels are full of shit like this.
>>519746971Not to mention it helps create long term civic goals, namely expansion and propagation. Atheists claim to be smart yet have never once constructed a single coherent civic framework. Their cultures and ideologies boil down to mindless hedonism and individualism. Atheists could have never built the Roman Empire or founded the USA. They don’t really do anything to be honest; they just mindlessly consume until their populations diminish below replacement, and then religious foreign people supplant them, as is happening in nearly every developed country on Earth right now.
>>519746971130 IQ people decide on some fence-sitter position and then also decide it's okay to lie so long as it's for a good cause like tricking morons into acting more morally (which generally doesn't work)?That's midwit shit. Every one of you thinks you're the only one that knows the religion is just a trick you're playing on amoral people. Not one that you need of course, but they need it.
>>519755039How does it not work when that framework built empires and civilizations that lasted thousands of years? Even the US’s golden age was arguably under widespread religious belief. Post 80s atheistic West has done literally nothing but gorge itself into obesity and replace itself with niggers. Atheists are civilizationally suicidal nihilists and parasites on the old world order, having built absolutely nothing yet squandered everything.
>source: Just trust me bro. Please.
>>519742668Atheists perhaps, neoatheists apes are just prepotent simpletons.
>>519744346>Trust the experts!Uh huh, sure buddy.
>>519747381>>519749868this is exactly the kind of thing that made atheism uncool.If you want to make christcucks uncomfortable, correctly call their religion Jewish. the "invisible skydaddy" thing is incel-coded.
>>519742668Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideology:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_RevolutionChristianity has always been a racist religion:>"Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race chosen and beloved [...]">"the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God [...]"- https://www2.cbn.com/article/church/pope-urban-iis-speech-calling-first-crusadeThe racist and anti-semitic Confederates have always been Christian.The National Socialists used the Celtic cross and gave out iron cross medals for bravery. The white term for "swastika" is hakenkreuz, meaning hooked cross.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HakenkreuzbannerHere's a growing list of Christian political commentators who are racist and anti-semitic:- https://rentry.org/Deus_VultFeel free to reply to this post with others.Educate boomers irl. If you don't preach to them, the anti-Christian kikes will:- https://news.antiwar.com/2025/10/06/israel-to-spend-up-to-4-1-million-in-propaganda-campaign-targeting-american-christians/israeli nationalism ("zionism") is a heresy:- https://youtu.be/GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s- https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-AThe "holocaust" (burnt offering) is a lie made up by kikes, both soviet and freemason:- https://rumble.com/c/ScriptureandTraditionFrJM/videosBoycott israeli products:- https://bdsmovement.netCommon glownigger talking points:>"jesus is a kike"The word "kike" comes from "kikel", which means circle. The kikes hate the cross so much, they would sign documents with a circle, hence the nickname.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign>"off topic"Reminder the pope is the monarch of a country. In fact in many white nations there is no separation between church and state.
>>519753681all the theists are just anti intelligence
>>519756743>16 postsyou seems very upset, higher iq folk tend to have self-control and restrain but you seems a peculiar case, brownboi.
>>519756313yep thats a bot>>519754477all white people are atheist
>>519742668>We need 4chan to stop calling us children of the devil oy vey
>>519742668Sky daddies are real to me!
>>519742668ahaha
>>519756951>Sky daddies are real to me!they are to browns
Atheism is correct. Abrahamic faiths are brown coded.
>>519746379
>>519742668Why do I think that is? Because jews are fucking insane and to believe their fairy tales makes you absolutely braindead
>>519742668The big bang theory is literally the abrahamic creation mythos. And that's scientology.
>>519760253The truth is probably a series of big bangs. But yeah that theory is basically just another version of creation concocted by a catholic kid toucher
>>519760494The truth is we have no idea because it's impossible for something internal to know how its container looks like from the outside. Science is real but speculating about things lightyears away like quazars and normal planets based on infrared light is a cope.
>>519744952>no it really did happen because this book of quotes from 70+ jewish books written by jews about a jewish rabbi and his jewish apostles said so
>>519747622coping retard btw
>>519761181my sides
>>519755282>How does it not work when that framework built empires and civilizations that lasted thousands of years?The cognitive capacity of humans did those things. Religion just also existed as an effect of that. You confuse cause and effect
>>519759433lets be honest
>>519744346Said the God hating crippled freak that ultimately says that life started from alien sporesHis latest "scientific" booook.
>>519742668Does that mean Africans and other non whites are less intelligent because they are overly religious? Racist.
>>519761339Non-white poster
>>519744346I'm extremely disinclined to buy it that Hawking was retarded enough to think these two are somehow opposing forces. Double digit IQ ones may reduce it to muh 6000 years old Earth vs observing reality around us and drawing conclusions, but I highly doubt he belonged to that group.
>>519746971As said by a wise man:>there's two kinds of idiots [when it comes to religion]; those who take fairytales literally and those who think religion holds no value
>>519761339I understand an ugly british cripple will do more for humanity than the legacy of your entire abo race.
>be atheist scientist>design test>1) how did humans evolve?>2) how does carbon dating work?>3) how old is the universe?>only fellow atheists answer “correctly”>atheists declared smartest This is always why jews win IQ test contests btw
>>519755940>neoatheiststhe state of brazil
They are just fucking dumb
learn to recognize pajeet threads. learn to stop giving (You)s, which end up as rupees, to the wrong posters. jews pay pajeets to spam this board en masse with the same globohomo agenda that you're still associating with only jews. since 2023 you are much more likely to see jew noise posted by a pajeet. there are a hundred times as many pajeets as there are jews. if you want any part of the internet to survive, you must detect, reject and redeem pajeets everywhere you find them
pajeets denigrate "abrahamics" and promote "paganism" (or atheism, or gnosticism, or whatever) because their objective shared with jews is to oppose and destroy "amalek/mleccha" by any means necessary. as long as you turn away from the traditions of your elders whose lives overlapped yours, they're satisfied. if you will abandon the authentic continuity of your native culture, you might readily embrace the generic counterfeit bastardization of multicult life under the rule of the chosen
pajeets should be posting on bharatchan and living on the subcontinent
>>519761181the smartest minds will forever be atheist
>>519762155Europe has learned religion is false
>>519742668midwits aren't intelligent, they're more subversive than any retard because they're convinced to be above everyone.
>>519742668Yes. Atheists get to be Islamophobic, Antisemitic AND dunk on Christcucks.
>>519742668> men are actually women, according to a (((study))) of over 6000 participantsWait till you find out about the personal habits of Kinsey, the ""scientist"" they used to invent faggot rights.
>>519763984>Atheists get to be AntisemiticCool it there, buddy.
>>519742668Thank goodness they took my science juice!
>>519747263>religion is for brown people./thread
>>519742668I met smart people who are atheistsI met smart people who are religiousWhy the fuck are you falling for the most obvious divide and conquer Anglo imperialist bullshit?
>>519749997you have to be trolling
>>519742668>Week 3 of posting the same gay thread every day>I've been starting to not be a 1pbtid faggot>Need more anti christian images in my folder to dump>My ass sweat is starting to stink, should maybe shower>Second monitor goon browser has reached 50 open tabs>Would like to eat something different than crap from a bag for once>Anons still yelling christcuck kike on a stick every thread>Sometimes other folder dumpers stop by. Feelsgoodman>When is the euphoria coming though?>Tfw
>>519742668Thats why they are so depressed all the time, this is it for them spiritually.
>>519764542this. however you think the universe works, it's a belief system.
Atheism is the absolute pinnacle of midwittery.
PROTIP: Every time you post here you honour the coming of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ the messiah of GOD!
>>519761140> I will become pagan because hollywood made Christianity look uncool, and Atheist made atheism look uncool, and me, well im a super cool redpilled gigachad and I watched some TV show about vikings.>u-uhh I mean, cuz muh based ancestors were pagan before their religion literally went extinct
>>519764636>Atheism isJust a disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods
>>519767560you believe there is no god. it's a belief.
>>519767724>believe there is no godThat's still a lack of belief my dull friend I lack belief until evidence convinces me otherwise
>>519750204>Feminists, LGBT, Trannies, etc.>They're all Atheists lol.And Christians
>>519742668AN AVERAGE over 6k people lmaoThey missed the one 300 iq mofo who praises jesus everyday
>>519767850you share a property of consciousness with rocks
>demonized and debunked all gods, scriptures>replaced it with the Jewish faith, the entire book is about the Jews and their covenant with God>(and the Jews have carried their traditions for millennia, they will even revive sacrifices when they build the Third Temple)millennia about>ATHEISTS AAAAAH!!!The Romans literally said that Christians are atheists. Because Abrahamic monotheism is the first step to atheism. If paganism was previously simply demonized, then they calmed down and settled on the idea that these were fairy tales, deified people, etc. But if 99% is untrue, then why is 1% true? First, you killed a certain understanding of the world, where the pagans believed that everything was connected (that the same gods and heroes had been everywhere), you destroyed the temples, ancient texts, became fixated on the Jews, reduced everything to the level of fairy tales and now you are surprised
>>519768574>hurt feelings intensifies. Kek
>>519767938You are a nigger
>>519768843I'm not a Christian
>>519761664Stop being a coping faggot. Either the bible is true or it isn't, you don't get to pick and choose. Heretic whores like you make me sick to my stomach.
>>519742928>per capita Well it is actually true though. But you wouldn't understand the concept of 'on average'.
>>519763984Only the real ones. There is a lot of edgy Redditor type atheists who are conditioned to be atheists in a way that’s intended and fashioned by the people in power. They are not real atheists and that’s what Abrahamicucks think of when bringing up atheists. Abrahamic religions were needed before, in order to uphold an order to keep the social structure maintained, because without a divine authority people stray away from their duties and responsibilities. It’s a coping mechanism but it worked for the majority of the people. Now that these facades of delusions are crumbling down people started to act a lot more impulsive and short sighted because most of them know they will not be rewarded for their endeavours in the afterlife and they will always be exploited in this world by the powerful figures. There is no way to fix this because lies of divinity can no longer be sustained.
>>519767850negative belief doesn't exist. "god doesn't exist" is still a belief
>>519769732>negative belief doesn't existCorrect
>>519767938>inb4 they aren't REAL christians
>>519770741Kek
>>519742668midwits are more common than intelligent people
>>5197426682000 years still can't debunk it even with modern science
>>519742668Don’t believe the news reports. Atheists are NOT more intelligent than religious people"this particular research suggests that this is not because religious people are less intelligent, but that religious people behave differently. It’s possible that religious people use more intuitive reasoning than atheists, which means they score lower on intelligence tests. "https://www.premierunbelievable.com/topics/dont-believe-the-news-reports-atheists-are-not-more-intelligent-than-religious-people/11667.article
>>519744422you suck faggot. how much of a jewish sodomite do you need to be to use the word suck like that
>>519742668Correct except most 'atheists' are just conformist NPC normie niggers who have no argument and less than zero children (actively encourage their own replacement). So much for evolution and those who are supposed to support it.
>6000 participantsThe majority of the religious are in fact retarded but the atheists who are "smarter" are just midwits. The actual smart people loop back around to religion once they hit a certain IQ point.
>>519755959That's religion too, you retard. You worship a rabbi.
>>519770930>smart people loop back around to religion once they hit a certain IQ pointProof?
>>51975020499.9999999% of pastors are feminist atheists
New study just dropped!
>>519743306>actively shun learningi dont care about your theories of two or more genders. theres one gender women are symbionts or opportunistic parasites
>>519742668>atheism is real god does not exist you heckin chud>nooooo don't kill my children and rape my wife noooooo that's le "wrong" nooo
>>519771078>don't kill my children and rape my wife noooooo that's le "wrong" noooWould you want that to happen to you?
>>519744346that irrelephant faggot made a meme of himself when he said industrial co2 production would turn earth into venus. he made a name for himself with stellar thermodynamics and then made a meme of himself in the same field. sick transit gloria mundi
>>519744860> gotta get a burrito with christian al pastor, no beans, guac, hot sauce, sour cream. the churchs abortion clinic is next to the mexican restaurant in the strip mall
>>519770975Name 1 atheist person in the current US government.
>>519771124>nooo you have to follow le golden cuck rule and not use your fair advantage in power and strength against weak to acquire as much wealth and offspring as possible, cuz its "wrong" mmkay? Even doe i believe in darwinism
>>519771628OK?Emily Randall, a member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Washington's 6th district, is an openly non-religious politician who lists her religion as none.>>519771672I'll ask again,>>519771124>Would you want that to happen to you?Odd you can't be honest and answer
>>519771628>be a fake christian if you want to manipulate peopleisn't that how we got here?
Atheists have a much lower birth rate than any other religion. Any way of life that does not reproduce at least at replacement levels is inherently not intelligent.
>>519750695You're not White lol
>>519771895>thinks atheism is tied to ethnic traditions Low IQCan you guarantee that those religious people having kids will produce religious kids that stay religious? NoCan you girsntee that religious people stay religious? No
>>519765935There is nothing cool about jewish lore in the first place.
>>519771757>i Don't believe in God but i do rely on rules that have religious origins, and want others to follow them, i also believe in darwinism and at the same time i pander morality Atheistcucks everyone you do understand that this too is made up, nobody who's powerful than you has obligation to follow your arbitrary rulesAlso what if a cuck fetishist comes along and rapes ur wife lmfao
>>5197722243rd time I have to ask a simple question >>519771124>Would you want that to happen to you?A real simple yes or no
>>519771895yeah it's funnythe biological imperatives that drive darwinian fitness are>fight>flight>feed>reproduceand being atheist is reproductively crippling.adherents to the atheist religion before the nu-atheism denomination came into being used to just shut up and go to church like normal people, and they'd have meaningful heterosexual relationships.
>>519742668Get lost stupid scammer. Do you atheist ape understand empirical data and polling in social sciences at all?
>>519771628None of them are Christians.
>>519772272
>>519772445So to be clear you'd be ok if >>519771124>kill my children and rape my wifeHappened to you, or someone you cared about?
>>519742668When 95% of a group (atheists) think putting a dick in poopyhole, and then suck and lick that dick afterwards is completely normal and good behaviour. When they think something like a female penis exists scientifically. One must start to wonder if IQ really is a measurement for intelligence.
>>519772541Lots of Christians think Jewish people are their rightful overlords. Lots of Muslims literally glorify a pedophilic warlord. People do all kind of stupid shit because majority of them are retards including you because you let your confirmation bias affect your judgment.
>>519772518>explain pleasesure,if i were an atheist, i couldn't rationally justify my sad feelings about it, because ultimately it was just one soulless meat robot ending the life or raping another soulless meat robot. marriage would be just a religious fiction.and optimistically, under an atheist utilitarian ethical framework where pleasure maximization is sought, the man who raped or killed her might have experienced more pleasure than the pain i'd felt. so the act would've been a good thing.
>>519772796I'll ask again>>519772518>>kill my children and rape my wife>Happened to you, or someone you cared about?Odd that these people can answer with a simple yes or no. Just constant sophistry
>>519772272U don't understand retard, u don't have any ground to stand on,Cuz that golden rule is made up by religion,If you were an actual true atheist you'd be agreeing with me, everything is made upGive me one single honest reason without using any religious rules that why shouldn't a powerful person with his fair advantage in strength just bash ur head and take whatever u gotU believe in darwinism right?
>>519772876i did answer though....? did you not read the post you're replying to?
>>519772938Again>>519772957I'll ask>>519771124>Would you want that to happen to you?A simple yes or no.
>I'm an atheist yet i call on morality when someone rapes my wifeWhy do you even care, when its just all materialistic atoms>your dick Atoms are bashing against my wife pussy atoms is le wrongKek
>>519773031what you're trying to pull off is a loaded question fallacy.>have you stopped beating your wife? yes or no only please.if you answer yes, it implies you used to beat your wife.if you answer no, well, you beat your wife.it's dishonest and shows a lack of good faith reasoning.
>>519772938Yes, the entire human civilization is actually one giant ponzi scheme and it’s all solely maintained by faith and trust. When you look at it with a clear state of mind then you realize every social construction is essentially a religion on its own.
>>519773116Again,Would you like it or someone killed amd raped your wife and kids or someone you cared about?>>519773171See above. I don't understand why this is so hard to answer for yous
>>519773220i answered here >>519772796
>>519773171>if you, if noMy follow up to both would be to ask why
>>519773190Although i still wager that some have more tangible foundations than others. You still need some solid foundation to keep it going nevertheless, otherwise it all falls apart.
>>519773254You didn't. You engaged sophistry because you came to the disingenuous conclusions of the reasoning. Which means you purposely created a strawman to avoid an actual answer
>>519773267mmmcan you rephrase this post?i honestly don't understand what you're trying to say but my intuition tells me it would be an interesting line of discussion.
>>519773338>can you rephrase this post?Why? It's pretty clear
>>519773369the "if you, if no" is nonsensical to me.
>>519773031I have answered you, you're not an atheist, you have to answer my questions lol>>519773190Precisely, religion gives morality, structure, a sense of organization, whether u belive in it or not, atheism gives nothing, they deny god but cry for his moral rules when they are in trouble?, This faggot calls himself atheist but believes in the Golden rule lmao
>>519773414>it's nonsensical to ask a follow up to gain more understanding Sounds like another cope to avoid an honest discussion
>>519773424>I have answered you>>519773337>You didn't. You engaged sophistry because you came to the disingenuous conclusions of the reasoning.>Which means you purposely created a strawman to avoid an actual answerJust like the other anon
>>519773466alright i think i get what you meant to type, "if YES, if no"but this was in regards to the wife beating thing, or were you extrapolating that onto the raping and killing of an atheist materialist's wife?
>>519773499Where do you get your morality from?
>>519773541>if YES, if no">but this was in regards to the wife beating thingNope. It's in regards to a yes or no to my question >>519773557The same places you do, minus "God"
>>519773621LMFAOWhat places?
>>519773648Observations of actions and consequences, friends, family, community, etc
>>519773424But it’s all a lie in the end. Is it better to believe in a lie than to confront it? Modern atheists don’t confront anything though. Most of them choose to reduce themselves down to their impulsive and animalistic state, instead of actually standing by their convictions. It’s funny how they normalize living like this despite pretending to be so intellectually sophisticated. But i think it doesn’t have much to do with atheism but more to do with the Jews redefining ideological doctrines to fit their needs. Because they don’t want to any ideology to confront their stats quo, so they subvert them by undermining their values and fundamentals. It’s the same with modern Christianity reduced down to be a cuck for the Jews.
>>519773621>The same places you do, minus "God">theists ground moral ontology in the nature of God>atheists ground moral ontology the same way, minus God>therefore, atheist moral ontology is groundlesslooks like we're all in agreement here.
>>519773749>Observations of actions and consequences, friends, family, community, etcThose are groundless to you and don't play a role in your moral decision making?
>>519773686Omfg bro I can't with this dumbass braindead retard
>>519773841>can't engage >troons outMany such cases
>>519773749You're that same clown who tried to use LLM against me, only to be owned by it and left the thread from yesterday lol
>>519745066You're actually incorrect. As IQ increases, religiosity increases. There's a big bump in the middle of "people smarter than average but not as smart as the top 15-20%" that are atheist, true, we call that the "midwit" range, but starting around 130 IQ, religiosity increases again.In other words, both retards and geniuses believe in God and it's only the midwits who think they're smart but aren't actually all that smart who are atheist.
>>519773904>As IQ increases, religiosity increases.Proof?
>>519773904>>519773962Instead, multiple studies and meta-analyses indicate a negative relationship between intelligence and religiosity. A meta-analysis of 89 studies found a small but robust negative association between intelligence and religiosity, with a correlation coefficient of r=−.14 (p < .001).This suggests that as intelligence increases, religiosity tends to decrease.
>>519773817the debate is explicitly about moral ontology (the grounding/foundation of morality itself) not epistemology (how we know/discover morals) or personal psychology (how individuals decide).you're shifting to sources of moral knowledge or influence (observations, relationships) which are irrelevant to ontology.
>>519773901my name is Anonymous.if you want to interact with persistent personas across threads try your luck on reddit.
>>519774062>the debate is explicitly about moral ontologyNope. I'm going to refer you back to my question you never answered >>519772518>So to be clear you'd be ok if>kill my children and rape my wifeHappened to you, or someone you cared about?
>>519773864Yes I can't engage with retard who gets morality from his immediate sorroundings If that's the case then my sorroundings teach me completely opposite of what you believe then who's right? Or moral? Who can be the judge?You do understand how stupid you're right?
>>519774117>my name is AnonymousIt doesn't matter. You leave obvious signs you're the same anon.
>>519774125>who gets morality from his immediate sorroundingsYou're no different. You just say it's from God, lol>Who can be the judge?See>>519773686>Observations of actions and consequences
>>519774123>Nopeyup.atheist materialism implies moral nihilismprove me wrong
>>519774235Again,>>519774123>>So to be clear you'd be ok if>>kill my children and rape my wifeHappened to you, or someone you cared about?
>>519774277if i were an atheist, given that atheism implies moral nihlism, i wouldn't be able to intellectually justify my anger as i'd know i'm in a universe devoid of meaning or purpose and "children" and "wives" are just clumps of cells.
>>519742668Always was. Reject semitic religions and embrace white science.
>>519774343>if i were an atheist,That's not what I asked. Again,>>519774123>>So to be clear you'd be ok if>>kill my children and rape my wifeHappened to you, or someone you cared about?Its really odd you can't engage with this in a honest manner
>>519748425Unironically based
>>519774220Why are you speaking for me faggot, unlike you i don't get my morality from people in my sorroundings, because that's retarded cuz the fact that people are fallible, indoctrinated, can have mental issues and are generally driven by their own motivations and are subject to influence If you were born during slavery would and everyone was participating in brutalising the slaves, would that make it right under your logic? Atheist faggots are the most braindead lolcows ever dude, this is pure entertainment lmao
>>519774392i'm not interested in representing my personal views, i'm dismantling yours.
>>519773904Confirmation bias as usual.
>>519774492>unlike you i don't get my morality from people in my sorroundings,Yes you do. If a law changes, you abide by the new laws. If you wrong someone, you make amends and avoid that action.All of this you do, via from people and surroundings, but claims it's from God
>>519755039I don't need it at all, but I look around at others who are deeply involved with it and they appear to need it desperately. So yeah, they need it and I don't.
>>519774537>i'm not interested in representing my personal viewsThen you're not here to be honest or genuine >I'm strawmanning yoursFtfy. Yeah you are that dame anon from yesterday.
>>519762551That's why the church is so hellbent on importing shitskins with 80 IQ.
>>519742668>>519744346
>>519774537>>519774698From yesterday, this pissed you off so much you left the thread
>>519774698honesty isn't the same as self-disclosure.i'm being honest about my intent, to examine your arguments and reasoning, not to center myself in it.if you need to share personal feelings to validate the discussion then you're looking for emotional leverage rather than a debate.
>>519774632>atheist cuck projects his subservient behaviour to politicians and govts No, my morality and sense of right and wrong comes from God, yours come from politicians that want you to call a man a woman You worship the govt that's what your saying
>>519774804>i'm being honestNope>if you need to share personal feelings to validate the discussionThat's all you do lol>>519774814>No, my morality and sense of right and wrong comes from God,I already covered that>>519774632>All of this you do, via from people and surroundings, but claims it's from GodThanks for proving me right
>>519742668>bell curve.jpg
>>519774903>I already covered thatU didn't lmao, u trooned out like a cuckI ask once again at the slavery part>>519774492
>>519775097>U didn't lmaoHere it is again>>519774632>All of this you do, via from people and surroundings, but claims it's from GodAnd you can't prove me wrong
>>519742668No one laughs at God in a fox hole.https://youtu.be/HqG1Dh36-6s?si=KCEVpsJ7M4q_J5Y6
>>519774492>If you were born during slavery would and everyone was participating in brutalising the slaves, would that make it right under your logic?No, that's what objective means. Slavery is wrong regardless
>>519775149>still cucks out from the slavery exampleAgain, I'll ask again, if morality came from your sorrounding humansWould slavery be right if you were born at that time?
>>519775292See above retard
>>519774783i don't recall ever arguing for DCT and i don't hold to it in its typical form, because it runs straight into the euthyphro dilemma (is something good because God commands it, making morality arbitrary, or does God command it because it's good, implying independent standards?i ground moral ontology in God's essential nature and the imago dei rather than mere divine fiat.>same guy accusing me of strawmanningyou're funny.
>>519775343>>same guy accusing me of strawmanningIt's your main shtick That and you use LLM to formulate most of your responses and try to pass them off as your own
>>519774783Is there any universal moral standard?
>>519743089spbp
>>519775343>is something good because God commands it, making morality arbitrary, or does God command it because it's good, implying independent standards?Who determines if it's "good" or not? It's just as subjective as your opinions about God
>>519775451Is there a clear difference between murder and killing?
>>519775412>you're just a chatbot>all you do is share your personal feelingswhich one is it?and also, why are we talking about my ontology instead of the way your religion fails at grounding the ontology of morality?
>>519775201But according to your own standard, your morality comes from your immediate sorrounding family and friends, right? Using that logic if you were a born on a white owned farm and your family plus friends participated in brutalising the slaves, that makes it morally right.Kek what dumbass moron
>>519775528If I answer yes or no, will the answer to my question appear to me?
>>519743089whiteoids are subhumans
>>519775340Reply in one post, pisstained faggot
>>519775532>>you're just a chatbot>>all you do is share your personal feelingsBoth bud>your religion fails I'm not religious. >>519775547>your morality comes from your immediate sorrounding family and friends, right?Part of it yes. And I don't want to see my family or friends as slaves. Would you?
>>519775588Let's give it a try and see >>519775607>do it my waySeeth more lol
>>519775683>Let's give it a try and seeThen yes.
>>519775547>if you were a born on a white owned farm and your family plus friends participated in brutalising the slaves, that makes it morally right.No, this moron doesn't understand what objective means
>>5197756441: atheists have their own churches.2: atheists have their own religious monuments outside of state courthouses detailing statements of beliefs3: atheists have their own symbolism4: atheists have their own rites and rituals, one of which are debaptism ceremonies featuring hairdryers5: atheists have their own holy days (darwin day, national day of reason, festivus)6: atheists have their own sacred texts and manifestos (the god delusion, god is not great)7: atheists debate other religious figures, write essays attempting to persuade and create content aimed at proselyting others into atheism8: atheists have moral codes and philosophical frameworks9: atheists form identity based movements (brights, nu-atheism) that reflect a collective identity with shared goals values and a sense of belonging10: atheism is protected under the first amendment as a religionatheism is a religion, and it's the gayest one.
>>519775729Then we agree :^)Which would be a yes to your original question
>>519742668Atheism is stupid, areligious is the way to go
>>519750695The church was having tamper tantrum about the earth being flat and delayed colonization of the Americas by centuries
>>519775771>1: atheists have their own churches.Nope. >long lists of strawmanning Give it a rest kid.
>>519775786I don't see how these words imply a universal moral standard, though. I don't think English is a universal moral standard.
>>519775644Then we are in agreement that your moral code is retarded, cuz people brutalised the slaves, why didn't they used your golden rule? they thought that they didn't wanted same treatment for their own
>>519775836>Nope.https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=%22atheist+churches%22>s-strawman! that's a strawman!you can't just yell "strawman" at things that upset you, you have to demonstrate how they're strawmen.
>>519775771And? By this definition Santa is a religion.
>>519775890>I don't see how these words imply a universal moral standardWe agree there is a clear definition between murder and killing. Sure is a great start >>519775903>people brutalised the slavesWhich is objectively wrong. >>519775911>you can't just yell "strawman" at thingsWhen that's all you do then that's what I going to say in response to your strawman >you have to demonstrate how they're strawmen.Atheism is just a disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods. That's it. No requirements beyond that.
Niggers drag down the theist average. Smart people question organized religion. Midwits led by psychos give us horrible dogma no matter the belief system. Super geniuses figure out most of the worst religions got weeded out a long time ago before they say anything to normies.
>>519776061>We agree there is a clear definition between murder and killing. Sure is a great startIt's a rather subjective start. We could also agree that we worship the same god.
>>519776133>It's a rather subjective startThen your answer would be no to the murder question. But it isn't as you and I clearly see objective criteria between murder and killing
>>519775683>>do it my wayYes, don't reply first with one thing and then with another like some braindead retard >>519775741>establishes a standard>gets destroyed by using his own standard >troons outKek, what part of "your faggot sorroundings and experiences are your own and not a universal standard" are you not understanding braindead retard>>519776061Their family and friends participated tho, dumbass faggot
>>519768948No he is right>>519761664How do you explain to a 3 years old to not play in the middle of a street? You appeal to his emotions using parables.
>>519776220>>>do it my way>Yes,Nah
>>519776220>>gets destroyed by using his own standardYou mean the straw you made up lol
>>519775968santa lacks #7-10.no proselytizing missionaries like ID: xMy+tE4c, no ethical systems, no identity-based social movements, no legal protections as a 'religion' under the first amendment.atheism checks every box for a functional religion, santa's a folk tale.
>>519776220>Their family and friends participated tho, dumbass faggotThis idiot still doesn't understand what objective means lol
>>519776303>no proselytizing missionaries like ID: xMy+tE4cWhere did I do that? Where did I ever say or advocate for anyone to be an atheist?Why do you lie so effortlessly?
>>519742668Fun fact: Jesus never existed and neither does god
>>519776061>Atheism is just a disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods. That's it.that's just one of your religion's dogmas rather than an accurate description of your religion.
>>519745066AgreeAnd high IQ individuals should be schooled separately from the morons. It should be the highest social class.
>>519776217Where does this objective criteria come from? I guess it has to somehow come from laws of nature. However, nature does not really care by what means you died. The result is the same.
>>519776303>no identity-based social movementsI guess Chess Club is a church now lol>no legal protections as a 'religion' under the first amendmentThis is a misconception. It's not as a religion, but as a form of free thought and speech, like those granted to religion
>>519776421>that's just one of your religion's dogmasNo, that's the definition my friend.
>>519776294>troon gets destroyed>"Noooo le hecking strawman"Kwab
>>519742668As long as a christian wants to remove the kikes, he's good in my bookgab.com
>>519776486>Where does this objective criteria come from?Where all other criteria comes from. Human interpretation >>519776591>>troon gets destroyedYes you did lol
There is no god and when you die it will be nothingness forever. Cope.
>>519776645>Where all other criteria comes from. Human interpretationBut that's subjective for sure, and therefore not universal.
>>519776317sorroundings/family/friends are subjective not objective you fat faggot retard kek
>>519776645>humans interpret X, therefore X has no real objective ontologythis slides your stupid gay ass straight into solipsism, and solipsists have no place in discussions about reality
>>519776737STFU memeflaggot
>>519776687>But that's subjective for sureThen I guess your answer is no to my original question.I think it's objectively immoral to murder babies
>>519776818I agree but I’m still an atheist
>>519776737>sorroundings/family/friends are subjective not objectiveBut them be slaves is objectively bad. Would you aree? Yes or no>>519776784>therefore X has no real objective ontologyI never said this, pay attention kiddo
>>519776791No, seethe lol
>>519776818that's because you're confusing "objective" with "universally held" (which it's not) rather than "a real ontological truth"
>>519776892Now faggot
>>519745224You misunderstand atheism. A-theism, or without a god. A god is the basis of most religions. Since atheism is simply the lack of something, you can’t fill in the blanks and say that this group can also be defined in other ways. Prior to the belief in the first god, all humans were atheists by default. Before babies are told about god, they’re atheist by default, in that they lack the belief in a god. Anyone trying to assign other characteristics to those who don’t think like they do belie a simpleness that they can’t hide. It has to be us and them, so the two groups must be defined. And peer pressure is a thing as well. “So many people believe this, why shouldn’t I? I don’t want to be the outcast. Everyone sneers when they say atheist. I don’t want to be that guy. I’ll just believe.” This leads to groups of people talking about this thing they created as if it’s real, and groupthink leads to tribalism. If atheists don’t believe, they must be enemies. When I’m reality, it’s just the absence of belief in a god, not belief against, not rebellion, default.
>>519776934>that's because you're confusing "objective" with "universally held" (How exactly
>>519776891Oh shit Why didn't the slavers never thought about that
>>519776957Go dilate somewhere else troon
>>519777031>Why didn't the slavers never thought about thatSame reason why the rapist makes excuses for rape. You are too stupid for these conversations my friend. Stick to the produce section
>>519744346if youre not a complete sperg you understand authority beats the truth.>>519742668atheists are smarter? kek this is a teenager level opinion. lots of smart fuckers smoked weed and fucked their lives off or are so asperger they cant even function. Religious ideals have driven western society further that being smart. a psychological framework for moving your soul though life is much more useful than intelligence.
>>519745387You’re assuming that only stupid people can possibly not believe in the absurd things your religion (whichever one it is) says? What exactly leads you to believe that your stance is the correct one? Proof doesn’t exist either way. You choose to believe what you believe. It’s just a belief, but what’s it really based on? I hear the old meme “being a part of something bigger than yourself” a lot. They tell that to soldiers who die in war for profit, too.
>>519745674>unintelligent>laziestYou know these two are unrelated, right?
>>519777101Rich coming from a braindead retard who can't differentiate between subjective and objective But its not your fault tho, I guess you never grew in sufficiently intelligent sorroundings LMAO
>>519744346I wonder how much worse Hell is for people like Joseph Stalin is as opposed to Stephen Hawking.
>>519777173You are assuming progress is the goal.
>>519777268>who can't differentiate between subjective and objectiveProve it
>>519776818>Then I guess your answer is no to my original question.Then you guess wrong. >I think it's objectively immoral to murder babiesBy some moral standards. Not by others. I think it's unfair to discredit religious moral standards for failing to be universal if you can't make the case that universal moral standards exist at all.
>>519776818>I think>objectivelyYou don’t understand critical thinking.
>>519777415>Then you guess wrongWhy exactly?>>519777415>>I think it's objectively immoral to murder babies>By some moral standards. Not by othersWell I consider the baby being murder so that qualifies as others. Then the affect it will have on the family, that's another others. So yes, others are included >I think it's unfair to discredit religious moral standards for failing to be universalI haven't done this>if you can't make the case that universal moral standards exist at all.Define what it means to be a universal moral standard
>>519777061>has memeflag>calls someone else troonThat’s rich kike
>>519777338what good is intelligence if it supersedes the rest of the organism. emotionally, spiritually, values, wisdom, integration
>>519777578Is it objectively wrong to murder babies?
>>519777664Yes
no one cares faggot>>519772027>>519772027>>519772027
>>519777710Is that also universal? Or is there a difference?
>>519777771It should be universally wrong.
>>519777830Agreed. Why is it objectively bad? Genuinely asking, not trying to find a gotcha, rather common ground
>>519777611>Define what it means to be a universal moral standardIt is a moral standard anyone can derive from non-subjective truths or values, I suppose. As opposed to deriving it from God's will or subjective feelings.
>>519777914I think because the formation of new life being halted is a net negative.
>>519777415Universal moral standards do not exist in nature. Animals kill each other all the time. Primates as intelligent as niggers commit murder with no consequences, or definition for murder. Only when you strategize morality relative to the desired outcome can you formulate a moral code. All moral codes are based upon the society they aim to create and maintain, and even the agreed-upon ones (murder/theft) are still rules created relative to the society desired. In the most extreme sense, biblical law, even if believed to descend directly from god, is not objective, but still relative to the society that’s desired by god. Objectivity doesn’t change meaning when its mixed with religion, though believers will argue til they’re blue in the face, because they can’t think outside of the box they’ve crawled into. Besides, god made languages, right? Why would he create a word that changes definition when applied to himself? Retarded.
>>519777960>It is a moral standard anyone can derive from non-subjective truths or valuesWhat determines the non-subjectjve truths or values if not human interpretation?>>519777986Solid answer. Thanks anon, agreed
>>519777611No. It’s subjectively wrong to murder babies. You’re misunderstanding the meaning of objective. Objective doesn’t change definition depending on how strongly you feel about it or how many people agree with you. It has to be an incontrovertible fact. Anything that is opinion, no matter how strongly you feel that it’s correct, is subjective. Even if you have supporting evidence that is also not factual, it doesn’t change it to objective. Objective isn’t a measure of severity.
>>519778163>No. It’s subjectively wrong to murder babiesMurder is subjective? Or do you mean killing babies is subjective?
>>519777652I don’t understand the question. Are you saying that intelligence always leads to ruin of the person?
>>519777987>In the most extreme sense, biblical law, even if believed to descend directly from god, is not objective, but still relative to the society that’s desired by god.If God is omnipotent and reality itself exists by his will, does that not make his will rather objective?
>>519777664>>519777710NoIt’s an opinion, even if the entire world agreed with one voice, it’s still an opinion that baby murder is incorrect. Critical thinking is more like verbal math than language. You can’t break the rules. 4+4 does not equal nine even if you reeeeeeeeelllly think it should. It has nothing to do with morality. You’re asking a critical thinking question, and the answer is no. Baby murder is SUBJECTIVELY wrong, not objectively.
>>519778394>It’s an opinionSee>>519778221
>>519778157>What determines the non-subjectjve truths or values if not human interpretation?They are the truths that exist regardless of how you interpret them. That is, everything that is not a social construct. Maybe you're a nihilist who believes that there is no reality outside of human interpretation, but that's a rather thought-ending position.
>>519778394Also, if it's an opinion then there wouldn't be a clear definition between killing and murder
>>519778468>They are the truths that exist regardless of how you interpret themI get that bit it still begs the question. What determines it true? The actor, the act, the consequences or is it observing all three?
>>519778221All of it, or the morality of it, anyway. It’s all subjective. Subjectivity and objectivity are more like mathematical language than language. They don’t change meaning because you feel strongly about the subject.
>>519778594Do you believe there is no objective criteria that differentiates murder and killing?
>>519778468>>519778594Threads about to archive but thank you for a genuine conversation
>>519778318Nope. It’s still subjective. It’s not a measure of severity.It’s clear as day in the Bible that the people got away from gods will, and the moral code used by most of the world came from what the god who spoke to Moses gave as the pathway to the civilization he wanted humanity to achieve. Objective/subjective can’t change meaning based upon how strongly you feel about it.
>>519742668The total Midwits of humanity outnumber both retards & geniuses put together.You need at least 190 IQ to prove to yourself the God exists.
>>519778476I don’t know how much more clearly I can spell this out. Please, please take a class on critical thinking. Buy a book on it. There’s a video series on YouTube, I think. It’s not what you think it is. Objective and subjective are not measures of your feelings.
>>519778684Murder is intentionalKilling can be accidental, collateral damage of an event that had no malice toward the deceased All murders are killingsBut not all killings are murders.
>>519778969Okay but I'm going to ask again >>519778684>Do you believe there is no objective criteria that differentiates murder and killing?If no then how do we make that determination in a court of law?
>>519742668Maybe God exists but He's stupid. That would explain why he doesn't appeal to high IQ people.
"I don't trust people who know exactly what God wants them to do.It always coincides with what they themselves want."Susan Brownell Anthony
>>519779058>Murder is intentional>Killing can be accidental, collateral damage of an event that had no malice toward the deceased>>519779058>All murders are killingsYou're contradicting yourself
