>order a pizza, total comes to $35 for the pizza and a 2-liter (wtf, is this really the new normal?)>zoomer who delivers it drops it off, walks back to his car, walks back to my door before I close it and tells me I didn't tip enough>proceeds to argue with me that 15% isn't enough and that 20% is standard if the service was goodwtf, #1, prices are way up, so you are getting tipped more based on a % as always#2 since when is 15% not standard? I'm not paying higher prices AND a higher percentage
Reading this article,>However, several customer service workers explained that their income relies heavily on tips, asking customers “not to skip.”>“Unfortunately about 60% of my paycheck is from those tips so it does actually affect us a lot,” one said.>“Baristas at coffee shops usually get paid minimum wage – y’all have no idea how much tips help us pay our bills, we really appreciate it,” another commenter wrote.>Baristas at coffee shops usually get paid minimum wageIsn't that pretty much a fast food job?
>>519754892Since I was circumcised as an infant without my consent, I have no tip to give.
>>519755192spbpBased leaf, you'll be raked last.
>>519754892I stopped going to subway because of this shit
>>519754892Just cancel your uber eats tip after the shits delivered. These beaners floor it for an extra $10
this shit really is getting comical. you have waitresses and bartenders out there make $40-$100/hrthe cash portion of their income is rarely ever claimedthey frauded unemployment for tens of thousands of dollars during covid while making more money in guilt tips then they every made in their lives.meanwhile the boss, paying them $2/hr defrauded ccp loans for tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars40% of massachusetts voters voted to phase out tipping. i hope they keep bringing it forward until it passes
>>519755090>>“Unfortunately about 60% of my paycheck is from those tips so it does actually affect us a lot,” one said.damn that sucks, they should get a better job and stop letting employers fuck them over
>asking for a tipno thanks, i'm shopping at amazon now
>>519755090Record them saying that and send it to the IRS
>>519755992Devilish
>>519755937amazon delivers alcohol and hot food?
>this kils the barista's wagesEat shit tipfags.
>>519754892>I'm not paying higher prices AND a higher percentageWhat? Yes, you are. What the fuck? "I shouldn't have to pay!" Niggers don't tip. You're a nigger!You ordered a $35 pizza as a retard, then refused to pay the delivery person even though you know 100% they work for tips.Absolute fucking nigger mindset. I would never refuse to tip a fucking pizza person because I'm not a fucking stupid nigger, I'm not jewishly holding onto my last $3 all while I know these guys make less than minimum wage.And the people with well-paying jobs who don't tip are even worse. Nigger!
>>519754892Get that little shit fired. Pizza joint owner is not going to stand for that.
>>519755493you don't own a rake
>>519754892I don't like tipping culture, but I still tip. I'm mad at the bosses not paying the workers even close to minimum wage and assuming that tips will fill in the rest. Shafting the workers some more won't help though.
>>519755192Do leafs need to give a tip when they're born too? I thought that was just a burger thing.
>>519756151>What? Yes, you are. What the fuck? "I shouldn't have to pay!" Niggers don't tip. You're a nigger!I paid 15%, the standard "good service" tip, weird creep
>>519754892>zoomer who delivers it drops it off, wa-As in, drops it off to the ground? Kek wtf>order some trashy pizza hut Cajeta breeds and a individual jalapeño-cheese pizza home>like 10 bucks and 5min ride, not worth tipping>absolute ghetto kid (I live in a narcostate city already btw) riding a death-sentence no-lights probably rented bike>gets all uppity cause I didn't tip on a 10 buck order>what do you mean I didn't tip? You just arrived with them>the app bro,you did a 0% on the app bro>kek to myselfWhat you mean I need to to tip you didn't even came still lol
>>519755801>40% of massachusetts voters voted to phase out tipping. i hope they keep bringing it forward until it passesI do too, and I hope they also enforce MINIMUM WAGE LAWS so restaurants stop hiring illegal delivery drivers to work for cash under the table (most delivery drivers in Canada). This is a scam that is 100% out in the open and everyone knows about it, and no one does anything about it.I also hope they regulate food delivery apps (Doordash/UberEATS/etc.) Doordash + billions of Indians = literal hell, they completely ruined the app overnight because they're all working for $5/hr now.
>>519754892Why are you even tipping delivery people?
>>519756435because their employers don't pay them, by tipping they are not helping them at all they are just enabling their rich employers to get richer
>>519756255>Shafting the workers some more won't help though...yes it will because they will quitnot only that but tipping is being expanded as you can see from this article
>>519754892Fuck tipping seriously.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4sTSIYzDIk
>>519756348>As in, drops it off to the ground? Kek wtfno, to drop something off means to deliver around here, it's a colloquialism, he did hand it to me from his bag>the app bro,you did a 0% on the app bro>kek to myselflmao
>>519755937That's what I'm doing, I stopped using instacart when I tried out amazon fresh and saw it was 60 bucks for what cost me 140 at instacart
>>519756113Give it time...as much as we hate bezos he does solve a major problem
>>519754892you're lying. NO zoomer has the self respect or determination to tell anyone they're doing anything wrong.
>>519756151Pizza delivery or door dash is different, regular restraunts I don't think you should tip unless they go above and beyond with food quality and you get your meal within like 15-20 mins top. If they fuck around and take like 40 mins to an hour fuck that bro no tip.
>>519756726>to drop something off means to deliver around hereSame all over europe.
If a lazy person wants to order 10 bags worth of shit from instacart or whatever and the customer doesn't tip i consider that being a cheapskate.
>>519754892those machines all just have that as an option. I'm not even sure you can turn it off. of course, I'm always hitting no tip. in the case of a restaurant, the cool part is that you choose your tip after you're already done eating.
>>519755192wew lad. Pretty soon we will be deciding interest payments aren't valid
>>519754892God fucking damn tipping should be made illegal. It's already expensive enough to eat out or go to a bar. I don't need more anxiety worrying about the pressure of paying extra. I never fucking tip fuck those assholes get a real job.
>>519755192Thank you leaf. This is my new standard response.
>>519756113Walmart do
don't you realize that these people are working in a business model that makes literally zero sense? it's unaffordable. they need to get tips just to survive!
>>519757154get a real job :)
>>519754892>trusting others with your foodKek
>>519754892Tipping is retarded, employers need to pay their workers a fair and sustainable wage, and servers need to stop being snobby brats who expect hundreds for basic service. Tipping is supposed to be a generous gift to the server for excellent service and as a thank you, thats what makes an actual tip special.
>>519756994>those machines all just have that as an option. I'm not even sure you can turn it off.Not true. Coffee shop owner here. I have tipping completely turned off in my POS. We're not turning a screen around on people like beggars. We still average 5% of the till in cash tips.
>>519754892
>>519756348do not post again until you read and write English at a 3rd grade level
>>519754892fuck them, they're already getting paid and I'm already paying too much. I work for money too, their work is no better than mine.>>519755192lol
Tip? Here is your tip...>points to dick
>>519755801Servers are the most entitled pieces of shit. They have the audacity to view themselves as some sort of charity case while making way more money than the fucks in the back cooking the actual food. The bartenders at the hotel I worked at in the mid-2000s were pulling over $100k a year back then... in a midwestern city.
>>519754892>and tells me I didn't tip enough>>proceeds to argue with me that 15% isn't enough and that 20% is standard if the service was goodreport idiots like this to the company. 20% is a massive amount, he should've gotten 0
>>519754892>DeliveryI tip 10% of price, before taxes and fees.>Full serviceI tip 15%, but do not willingly go to such places>Literally anything elseNo gratuity, full stop. I do not tip hairdressers, cabbies, etc.
>>519756873>NO zoomer has the self respect or determination to tell anyone they're doing anything wrong.they shame each other constantly, in fact that is a quintessentially gen z characteristic, you even go outside?
>>519754892A tip isnt even required so the "standard" is $0
>>519755090I might tip a barista is she's giving lap dances or something.
>>519757267Yeah like I was saying, the food should be hot almost scalding if its breakfast food, the coffee should be piping hot, fresh or half bottle of hot sauce for the eggs and hasbrowns etc. Minimum, and it shouldnt take 1+ hour to get my food especially if theres few others customers.
>>519756304optional. Basically, is your mother a shabbos goy who fell for the meme or not? My dad wanted my dick cut and my mom saved me. He wasnt even cut so I cant fathom where that idea came from.
>>519755801nah. servers arent paid minimum wage. theyre paid less. unless they do a bad job or are rude I will give them 15%.. but thats it. not tipping if I dont eat in the restaurant. fuck tipping for to go orders. I haven't been to pizza hut forever and ordered on the app and they wanted me to put in a tip when I paid on the app.. to pick my pizza up at a drive thru window. I also had the vape store ask for a tip. everywhere asks for a tip. fuck it man I cant do it. all these people are paid at least minimum wage. ive had to wait tables before and I know how it is.. people have to balance how much of their tips they claim..waffle house for example will punish you if you don't claim enough but will tax you if you claim "enough". What a lot of servers do will just not report their cash tips, because card tips are in a system and you cant hide those. So a good day is when your credit card tips are enough and you dont have to report your cash ones. Dont get enough card tips and you have to report your cash ones and they deduct it from your check.. and in my state servers get $3 an hour.
The problem is employees don't take their job seriously anymore and don't put in the effort working especially in the food industry. Yes there some great restaurants out there but theres some shitty ones.
>>519756151>>519756306>>519756897I don't order much but when I do, I tip $5 maximum for delivery. It's not like they're carrying weights, and the cost of my food generally has nothing to do with the quality of their third party service. I would rather tip my already well paid UPS guy than some delivery bum, I put that poor guy through so much shit.
>>519758035THIS. The tip used to be on the subtotal and now it's like every place with those "here's what your 15% tip SHOULD be" crap is doing it on the total amount, including any surcharge and additional fee they feel like tacking on.
>>519758497>The problem is employees don't take their job seriously anymorezoomers
>>519755610You haven't missed much since they're all employing jeets now.
>>519758580pretty fair
>>519754892Imagine having to go get your own food?Then if tipping, at least it would go to the people who actually made it.It's so arbitrary that the last person in the chain get to score tips from others work.
>>519755992Credit cards tips are already auto-deducted and taxed. If you want to go after tips not being reported, it'd be bartenders, strippers, and servers.
Imagine living in America LMAO
>live in Japan>never tip>go to restaurant in the US>pay with a $100 >waiter never brings change >expects me to just tip him 60% >call his ass back to the table and ask for my change >leave no tip because the sheer audacity of that faggot waiter
>>519754892lol, tipping. as if.
>>519759375Is it true that a waiter in Japan can get offended when you tip him, because they consider it as you telling them that they are broke and are a charity case?
>be me, server>upscale spot in a nice neighborhood>blacks, hispanics, white trash cant afford it>always get at least 20%, often more>get at least 1 or 2 extra nice tips a week because the rich white people feel pity for me>make at least $50+ an hour easily>only work 20 hours a week and have enough for all bills and plenty to save>work always starts at 4 pm so I can stay up all night playing vidya and then sleep in all week>actual job is easy as all hell and a retard could do it as long theyre patient and nicestay mad wagies and dont forget my 20%
>>519754892Those delivery people already earn more than you anyway but you have to tip them lol. They can easily get to over 100k a year.
>>519755992You think that's bad? Workers in US have less rights than nazi concentration camp worker jews.The reality is that the employer only has to guarantee that the server/barista goes home with minimum wage. If her tips reach minimum wage, the employer doesn't pay a cent. If tips come out below minimum wage, he only has to pay the difference.Yes, this is legal.
>>519759715>get at least 1 or 2 extra nice tips a week because the rich white people feel pity for meMy friend who works as a waiter says that only poor people tip well or at all.The rich never tip and when they do is rarely over 10%
>>519760236thankfully I dont live in a third world shithole
>>519759715lmao
>>519760278You are an actual beggar bro. You rely on hand-outs from strangers to survive.
It used to be shameful to work as a pizza boy back in my day. A job reserved for dropouts, pot addicts & low skilled burnouts. Now so many adult people do Doordash, Uber, Grub hub ect. and its become socially acceptable.When has this become normalized? I was sitting at a table and a grown man said to the staff "I'm here for a doordash". My buddy smirked to me with a look of "get a load of this guy". I just judged silently as he stood there awkwardly looking at his phone.This young adult could have done anything, ANYTHING else with his life but here he is using his own personal car, waiting at a fast food joint or restaurant, then driving to a persons home to hand deliver their food. That is bottom feeder behavior & it needs to be shamed publicly. It isn't a job, you are someones hired servant. And they expect a tip. A tip is earned for outstanding service, like a pretty waitress that brings your food to your table and actually seems happy to talk to you. Not a grown man walking up to a house with a hoodie (no uniform or professional clothes like a dress shirt and khakis) and expecting a $10 tip. No way, if I paid an inflated price, then a delivery fee that's more than enough to cover gas money unless you drive a hummer. Take it up with your boss if you don't like the pay. Back when I was working if I wanted a raise I would have to earn it, and tell the boss I deserved it. I quit many jobs until I got my career in the Auto industry and retired. All because I didn't like the pay and got a better job!
The "tipping" culture has now spread to France.In most big supermakets brands, when you pay by card you're asked if you want to round up the total for bullshit charity.e.g: if your total is 18,3€, you'll be asked if you want to make it 19€ for charity.Once I ended up with a perfect round total... and the fucking machine asked if I wanted to add another euro for charity.I'm going insane.
>>519760373>hand outsI am giving them a service and they are paying a fee for it. I am overpaid for what I do but Im not complaining.
>>519758703you realize like 90 percent of subways are Jeet franchises whether or not it's a white teenager or jeet behind the counter? Subways are like motels man, been jeeted out since I was a kid and I'm 42
1) that didn't happen2) i've never tipped in my life3) you (and nobody else) will do shit about it4) t. millenial
thread full of tipping cucks. I already pay for delivery, so address your tip shit with the app provider. at restaurants I already pay service charge which is hidden in the price, so no tippin either.
>>519760551You carry plates for a few meters, you are paid below minimum wage because that "work" doesnt deserve minimum wage.I can train a Golden Retriever to do your "job" People dont tip because they appreciate the "work" you do.They are scared that you will spit in their food next time they come, its more like a bribe because of unspoken blackmail than a tip.
>>519756621I haven't run across it in anything dumb like ringing up my items at a store. But if I do, I don't think I'm tipping. For one, no service was provided. For another, I strongly suspect that tip is going to the boss, not the person who just rang up my items.
>>519754892I only tip if I'm eating out, which I never am.That and delivery drivers, but only food, not Amazon. Why? I don't know. It just makes sense to me.
>>519754892Why are cashier girls always hot?
>>519754892I just dont tip is all
>>519761137We used to have things called "shop girls" where attractive women would be paid to chill in the shop, but jews being jews kept knocking the price down until we ended up with the semi-attractive cashier. Notice how they're all women?
I started using cash so I can circumvent card readers asking me for tips.
>>519761137that's a 5, hoeflation is real
>>519754892Don't tip at all I've never tipped in my life.
>>519761378I like 10s, 9s, 8s, 7s, 6s, 5s... Sometimes even 4s.
>>519761270why bother? they can't force you to tip. the most they can do is put you on some "do not serve" list, but nobody's going to even remember who you are if you aren't in there very often.
>>519758971>If you want to go after tips not being reported, it'd be bartenders, strippers, and servers.anon, I...
>>519754892>order a pizza, total comes to $35 for the pizza and a 2-literWay to out yourself for being a retard paying a price like that. If you are going to the store yourself then yeah no tip because you are the one spending your time and gas money to go pick up the pizza. If you are ordering delivery then yes you should tip since you are making someone bring your lazy as your pizza.
>>519754892Americans are this cucked kek
>>519755192kek #shotsfired
>>519754892Americans are so retarded.
>>519761675Retarded isn't enough..they are golems
>>519761453don't get me wrong, I even like the ones with sharp elbows, I just resent the fact that these plain ass bitches are being called sexy by countless dudes online, it puffs them up way too much
>>519761427Based same why would I tip the guy as a paye..
>>519761618>Way to out yourself for being a retard paying a price like that.it's everywhere nowadays bro, how much do you pay for pizza? there's a local place around here that charges $20 for a XL if you pick it up, otherwise delivery runs an extra $5 plus bullshit fees. that's the best price in the area, $25+tip and that doesn't include a drinkeven shit chains like dominos, little caesars, papa johns are 20-30 for a single pizza and 5 for delivery
>>519761726>I just resent the fact that these plain ass bitches are being called sexy by countless dudes onlinemost of these terminally online men only see airbrushed e-sluts. seeing a mildly attractive woman working a shit job like waitress or cashier makes them look "attainable" even though they're likely still whores like the rest of them.
>>519761816little ceasars near me still has hot n ready. they're not 5 bucks anymore, but they're still cheaper than just about anything else for the amount you get. only issue is that little ceasars is probably the shittiest quality fast pizza you can get.
>>519761827>likelyI admire your optimism
>>519761816If you are paying for pizza without using a coupon you deserve to be ripped off. If they don't have coupons to your liking then you are better off going to the store and getting a higher quality frozen pizza. It will still be cheaper than a pizza place and the same quality if not better.
>>519755090I know its not a way to live, broadly, but I answer this by simply never going to starbuck or similar places ever. It is 100% because baristas expect tips and if it were known that they didnt expect tips and I didnt see a tip option or a tip jar I would 100% be comfortable paying $5 for a goypoison latte when the moment strikes
>>519761899not judging but paying over $5 for the hot and ready pizza just aint worth it bro.. a full regular ass pizza with three toppings used to be $8 just a couple of years ago, I can't take this anymore
>>519761982i just get coffee at mcdonalds if i really need to put some sugar slop in my body. it's overpriced there too now though. i remember paying $1 for a large french vanilla iced latte for years, right up til about 2020
>>519755090Is it possible to ruin the job market if we hire them as maids and butlers and pay them a fair wage?
>>519756435Tipping delivery is the thing that makes the most sense.Sitdown restaurant tips deserve tips far less.But yes, tipping should go away entirely, with delivery fee baked into price going directly to driver as commission.
>>519754892WHAT THE FUCK is the cost of living in the US like now? I remember 10 years ago your fast food was like half of what we paid on prison island - conversion adjusted (and the exchange was the same: 1.5x).You can get 2 pizzas and 2 drinks for $20 USD delivered now AND we don’t have retarded tipping culture. Though I do tip the European drivers like $5
>>519754892bro pizza delivery tip is a flat 2-5$
>>519755090Fast food jobs were supposed to be for teens, college kids, and retirees or bored housewives, not meant for average folk.Just goes to show how fucked things are.
Here pizza delivery costs half of that and tipping is optional.
tipping is for rightoids who believe jews shouldn't pay taxes or their employees
>>519760732I think they tip because they know restaurants arent paying us anything, they arent pieces of shit and also arent broke niggers so the extra 20% isnt hurting them. and yes like I said a retard could do it, thats why its so based. if it werent for waiting tables Id be making half as much money for twice as many hours doing way more miserable labor. god bless the usa
>>519756113if you have Amazon prime you get grubhub plus for free, which does.
>>519759375Kek
>>519759375yeah thats a big no no. you always bring back change unless they explicitly tell you not to. that waiter deserved to get stiffed.
>>519759375>waitress at some shitty karaoke bar asks if we're "all set" after I hand her cash>girlfriend says yes>waitress starts to say "ok have a nice night">have to say sorry no actually I need my change>waitress acts like I just kicked her dog or something because I'm about to tip 15% instead of whatever she was about to take
>>519760551You also have brown south american skin
>>519758580grocery delivery guy in my spare time here:i do in fact carry weights. most orders are 100-200 lbs, but some can be way, way more. like yesterday at 5:45 am i delivered 3) 50 lbs bags of deer corn to some chick in the country. that's 150 lbs just right there (she had like 20 other items). some orders can be around 400 lbs. we also see how much your order was worth. most orders i deliver are also $100-$200. sometimes they are $250. i get $5 tips most of the time. so tell me if you were ordering literally 150 lbs of a pizza, $200 worth of pizza, how much would you tip? now tip me that, fucker.
>>519761726>>519761827>>519761910Imagine calling out a guy for saying that a cute white girl is hot.You are closeted faggots. All stuck up men like that are AT BEST closeted bisexuals.
>>519762890oh i forgot to add; the delivery range for wal-mart is 30 FUCKING MILES. so like that woman who i brought 150 lbs of deer corn? she was 12 miles away. that's a 24 mile round trip. she gave me like $3. no pizza delivery person is bringing you pizza from 20 miles away. none. so fuck off and tip me what i deserve (some people do and i make like $50 an hour when that happens, but it's getting more and more rare). we do way, WAY more work that uber jeets or sexy waiters.TIPYOURGROCERYDELIVERYPERSONANDNOONEELSE
>>519754892Change the tip to zero and report him.Stop being a pussy. People used to get in fistfights over behavior like that.
>>519762890how the fuck is doing all that work+gas mileage for 5 fucking dollars worth your time
>>519754892retard can be happy she wasnt raped by that wolt jeet as the cherry on top.
>>519763103well walmart paid me like $20 for doing it. but i needed $10-$20 in tips too, and i didn't get it. her order was like $120. i dunno, today i made like $235 total. when people tip you can make decent money.
>>519755801Yea, they won't work a normal hourly wage job because it doesn't pay as well.
>>519754892>can’t even see her nipsWhy viral?
>>519763174Miles and hours for 235?
>>519755610Why? They can’t shit in it in front of you and before you pay.Just walk away you fag.
>>519755610I stopped going to subway like 18 years ago when I realized 100% of the employees there at any location were always indian. Definitely nothing "fresh" about eating that.
>>519762890ok pussy, you carried a 50lbs bag of animal feed. this is his soi cuvk achievement of the day.>s o i bot 9000 my strength is waning
>>519763174235 isnt bad at all. I made 280 tonight for a 6 hour shift. since im a failure who didnt finish college if I took a wagie job Id have to work like 20 hours to make that much in my area.
>>519754892she can hit my tip if you catch my drift
>>519759375>i've never been to the US
>>519754892There's more retards asking for tips here even though our minimum wage is $24 / h. American nigger culture needs to stop trying to infect proper countries.
>>519762304Boomer cope lol.People could live off of fast food jobs back in the day. Worse yet, they could actually move up within the company and reach managerial roles with much higher wages.
>>519759715You seem to think that anyone has an issue tipping waiters, except for niggers. If you make my dinning experience enjoyable, I don't mind tipping you 20%. We just don't want to tip a cashier for ringing up our order.
>>519763457>CTRL+F "my tip"Stop being so predictably cliche.
>>519762164Why is it so fucking hard to just include the tip in the delivery fee (and not fucking call it tip)? Is it impossible for american companies to be transparent about the prices of stuff they are selling? >hehe look goy this is only 19,99>not including tax, tips etc etc etc
>>519760278Okay, now I see why the epitome of your career is refilling someone's sparkling water. You are literally borderline retarded. Which third world do you imagine having rich white men that don't tip well? Rhetorical question. I know anything you say is going to be nonsensical and retarded.
>>519763499>copy pasting in 2 threadsHere’s your one (1) (You).
>>519763719Yes pretty much. Boomers are greedy and instead of paying commission for delivery, they scam the driver and expect the customer to pay for it.
>>519763499>copy pasting in 2 threadsHere’s your second (2nd) (You).
>>519762991I don't care about women who I'm not having sex with. Women don't see men, even strangers now, as anything other than potential dollars in their tip jar. Women's magic used to lay in their mystique. They've all but destroyed that illusion with the way they use social media. I am less likely to respect a woman I see wearing makeup than one who isn't.
>>519762991did you even read my post retardgtfo simpgender traitor
>>519755090liveable min wage is for commies bruz!death to pedophiles, oligarchy and oligarchs
>>519764002In fact, aren't most hooters staffed by fat nogs and trannies? there's genuinely no reason for an attractive white woman to want to work at one of those now with how easy everything has become for them unless they just REALLY like being a waitress.
>>519763719it's worse, they can now get away with advertising a price but adding all sorts of "fees" which are not disclosed until you get your billthey have also started just outright hiding prices, assuming normalfags will just hit "pay" if it's a convenience service like food delivery, which they are right about
>I thought the price for this luxury was too high but I still bought itStopped reading there, all right to complain lost
>>519754892tipping is an American thing.People in civilised world don’t do American things.
I'm 40 and I have never given a tip in my lifeI still have my foreskin and I'm unvaccinated
I kind of wish we had tipping here, so I could just be an asshole without doing anything and while saving money
>>519754892It's very simple.Just don't tip at all and if it creates a problem, then you leave a one star review on the business. These problems are very easy to solve.
I found one of those chinese food places black people go nuts over, where they overfill the takeout containersI fed my family of 3 with one 3 item combo for 13.47. I actually tipped because I was amazed I could get so much food for that much. I'm estimating it to be 10,000 calories (we ate about half). it's unhealthy af but we don't eat out too often anyway. god bless them and I hope they stay in business
>>519755192carlos singh!!
>>519755090I like the unbeatable argument “x% of my income is tips so I need tips” where they trick you to (mis)understand that you are paid less than min wage and that tips bring your salary to min wage where in reality they are all pair min wage and they just calculate how many tips they get on average and add that as salary.
>>519754892>get severely underpaid by employer>customer is supposed to make up for it>get mad at customer for not doing it while the employer laughs at two idiots fightingI can't even laugh at the bloody absurdity of it all any more.
>>519765016the absurd thing is that the girl was asked to tip a cashier even though the girl picked out her own clothes and brought them to the register. all you'd be tipping for was them using the register, which a lot of grocery stores allow you to do by yourself these days.
>>519755192Likewise. I'd buy you a beer when the apocalypse comes. A good beer too, none of this shit we export to dumbfuck foreigners.
>>519755192Based leafpajeet
>>519755090Barista is the modern day equivalent of 19th century shoe shiners. They are technically beggars who pretend they do something useful.
>>519754892don't let them gas light you.tipping was 10% until 2015 when they universally gaslit everyone to tip 15% and less than 10 years later they are now asking for 30% tip.Automatic 0 dollars tipped if I see that shit.
>>519754892>proceeds to argueyou opened the door, noob.skill issue.
>>519765638Same. Fortunately in the short run, women are accustomed to the judeo-Christian penile-ecosystem and in that ecosystem my finish is top tier for most in this jewish controlled hellhole.
>>519765016being seen as cheap terrifies Americans. you could have self-checkout machines ask for tips and they'd still pay 15%+ and give the evil eye to people ahead who don't.same story with East Asians tipping their employers with free overtime work so they aren't seen as lazy.
>>519763811>>519763828wtf are you on about?
>>519755090I work minimum wage and I get no tips. Let alone it being 60% of my paycheck, heck that's insane.They basically get more than twice minimumwage and they still complain?
>>519766533Suck my sweaty taint faggot before you go back to r*ddit. I would absolutely glass you cunt no hesitation IRL.
>>519766571most tip workers are women. of course they'll always complain about not having more. men aren't typically stupid enough to work jobs like that outside of bartenders, but i bet they get paid well regardless.
>>519754892Make it yourself it should be cheaper in a long haul since you have the materials to make 4 times over with the same price or at least over here we do.
>>519765016USA is Corporatism manifested you literally cannot blame the corporate overlords otherwise you are a satanist commie tranny AND a nazi fascist chud dog simultaneously.
>>519755192oh look an actual based leaf and not a fucking bot for once.
>>519755090Customer doesnt have employer-employee contract so its not customers responsibility to care how much someone earn.
>>519754892I go out of my way not to buy anything that requires a tip. If I order a pizza I pick it up myself, I dont go to sit down restaurants unless someone else is paying like for a company thing.
>>519767220a lot of companies are starting to buy these self use terminals that have a built in tip option, even where a tip isn't necessary. our tip cucked society is probably guilting people into tipping event when it isn't necessary. I wouldn't be surprised if wal mart self checkout terminals have tip options in the next 5 years.
American servers are paid nothing. Their tipping culture isnt so strange when you realise that.There is a push to make tipping ubiquitous. Why? So that these workers can also be paid nothing. Why would this be desirable? So that business owners face no risk in taking on extra staff. Is this desirable for the consumer or the worker? Absolutely not.
>>519754892>walks back to car>walks back to door before you close itYou can complain about tipping culture without making up a fake and gay story.
>>519767327I ordered food online and the site had an option to tip. Not tip the delivery guy, tip the take away shop.Voluntarily just pay extra for no reason. Lmao.
>>519767575I'm pretty sure they're counting on retards not understanding that. I'm sure most normoids don't understand that your ubereats driver is not a pizza hut employee.
>>519767475They get min wage if they don't get tips. But like you say, it's cheapskate employers that are the problem
>>519754892They must adapt to the market. The new standard is, at the very least, a quick handjob to earn the tip. Ungrateful proletarians.
>>519756348You jest, but I've had this happen before. Papa Johns is phasing out delivery and partnering with doordash, some retard quite literally placed my pizza on the fucking doormat and started taking a picture as if it were a stantard package, I could barely speak I was so fucking confused. He did not get tipped at all.
>>519754892Get a real job
Tipping should be illegal, as in you need to go to prison if you solicit a tip for any service
>>519758439>servers arent paid minimum wage. theyre paid lessThey're functionally paid minimum wage. if they don't report enough in tip earnings to make at least minimum wage, the employer is required by law to make up the difference in their paycheck. Any bitching about how little they make hourly is just guilt trippingThey never report their full tip amounts if it's paid in cash, which is why servers were fuming so hard when cashless tips started being a regular thing.Despite how much they bitch that tipping culture is evil and we need to abolish tips for actual fair wages, if anything actually happened that threatened tips they'd be the first ones in line to fight against it.
>>519760410Suck my cock normie boomer. I ‘worked’ only 4 hours delivering uber today and made $55 wearing sweatpants and taking a break in between
>>519754892Tell him to get a real job, help him with that by calling the police for coercion/extortion and reporting his crime to his company.
>>519754892Stop tipping and tell the waitress/employee to go get a real job.
>>519754892>order subway once a week for the kid>there's an option to tip at payment>what the hell why not, it's actually teens and college students working at this loc and they're always very polite>tip $3>sandwich gets extra meat & cheese>do the same the next week>bonus toppings + free cookies>tip again the week after>toppings, cookies, and they hand me an extra drink>tipped them 100% a few weeks later and basically gave me two of everything i ordered>went thru drive thru the next time and there were 4 cars ahead of me>they brought my order out to the car so i didn't have to waitif you plan on being a regular somewhere with tipping, do it and do it good.
>>519756135We make instant coffee with the lowest quality beans on the market. Unripe, rotten and worm-eaten beans. I bet you believe it's perfectly normal for coffee to be bitter and require a truckload of added sugar.
Tipping is degenerate. People who tip are the worst people who exists.
>>519755610>I stopped going to subway because of this shit
>>519755902Only way to not get fucked over by employers is to unionise. People who earn $100k per year would have earned $700k if they unionised. American fast food is more expensive than in norway. But here they earn many many times more.People who don't unionize they don't actually want better wages or rights. So they shouldn't get tips.
imagine going to a restaurant or ordering food after they banned pure bloods during covid, and are all staffed by indians, or under the table illegals. Enjoy the complimentary hepatitis
>>519754892tipping is retard culture
I ain't tip shit, bruh
>>519767882Their minimum wage is comically low. 6€ or so. Even illegal Romanian fruit picking slaves earn more that they do.
>>519755192Wait canadian males are also circumcised? I thought canadians lose the tip from sucking each others' dicks all the time.
>>519755090>several customer service workers explained that their income relies heavily on tips, asking customers “not to skip.”get a better job then faggot. the only reason it has to be like this is BECAUSE of tipping. The only winner in tipping is the kike boss.Tipping is beyond retarded. It's the most jewish shit imaginable.
>>519768577>I thought canadians lose the tip from sucking each others' dicks all the time.They do. Why do you think that doesn't start when they're a baby?
>>519754892>hit no tip>watch their response>tip if they still treat you nice afterwardsSorry senpai but I like tipping, and you don't even tip in my country.
>>519762304Yeah well we live in a multicultural society with mass immigration. Those jobs belong to jeets and spics now.
>>519754892It's become such a fucking headache now for me to order food that I just don't bother anymore.>Friday night, fancy a takeaway>scroll through the kike order app>full of foreign foods>multiple places apparently based in the same location, all ghost kitchens>definitely staffed by non-whites>definitely will get delivered by non-whites>probably won't be accurate or will be missing something>fuck it, I'll go out and find something>go to the old fish and chip shop>owned by chinks now>only take cash (obvious tax fraud, likely a criminal front as well)>go to the pizza place>full of browns, you can literally smell them>go to the chicken place>full of browns again>outside each place, a dozen scrawny blacks straight off the boat from Africa are sitting around on scooters, jibbering in their monkey language>drive for about an hour trying to find SOMETHING white>the pie and mash shop is closed early>probably a good thing, they're overpriced slop anyway>go to the McDonald's as a last resort>get to the order speaker>"how can I help?">obviously a non-white speaking>tell them I changed my mind>drive passed>payment kiosk has a lazy zoomer mongrel in it>kitchen is full of fat white girls and blacks>go to supermarket>grab a whole chicken and some bacon rashers>go home and cook that with some potatoes, broccoli, carrots, and peas>whole evening wasted, now have to default like eating in the 50's again
>>519755610lmao you have to tip at subway? For what exactly? It's like tipping at McDonald's.
>>519754892Some black lady at Taco Bell gave me a hard time because I didn't round up for children's education while I was wearing a $120 North Face coat. Whatever, got a refund and walked out of there. Went to the locally-owned Mexican restaurant where they didn't ask me this crap and were happy to make my food.
>>519768623“Just get a better job” would be a good bargaining chip, except:>they already imported jeets to replace you in the tech sector>they imported spics to replace you in blue collar and fast foodWorking class proles have NO leverage. They are lucky to even have any job at all
>>519768876I work in the tech sector. I'm not being replaced by Indians. We do have ONE Pakistani guy who is a web developer but he is a US citizen. The one guy they had overseas who was a web guy they just terminated his contract because it was too expensive. Plus they need me on site 24/7 so my job is harder to replace.You do have leverage. Get a job that is harder to replace instead of trying to telecommute all the time.
the last women i gave a tip thought it wasnt enough and she stole 10 euro from my change and that was the last time i ever tipped a woman. fuck you.your boss doesnt pay you enough? its called get a real job bitch. everything with tipping is for college kids at best and not 40+ old hags expecting to make a living
>>519754892the only time i tipped recently when i got hooked up for 1500 dollars worth of weed for 200 bucks lol
I was in NYC a few weeks ago and the tip screens everywhere drove me mad. We went into a coffee shop because my wife wanted to buy beans - she got 3 bags which came to something like $80 and the fruitcake behind the counter got annoyed when I smashed the no tip button.I hope I never have to go to the US again.
Tips were never to pay your fucking wage , it’s just from simps thinking they could bag a baddie by giving her money
Simps have truely degraded society
>>519769178What were you doing there Nigel or Patel
>>519754892Dude you’re at your front door, why’d you fucking argue like a retard? You should’ve told them you won’t tip again then and then pulled out your dick and balls and swung your hips really hard so it smacked against your thighs repeatedly only to say “you hear that? that’s the applause of the entire internet agreeing with me” then slammed the fucking door in their face and enjoyed your goyslop with cheese instead of now regretting it and feeling fucking retarded.
>>519754892>sorry idk how to do percentages>anyways see ya later!
You guys should get like, wage laws, or something
>>519754892I actually encountered someone like this once, at Subway. The store had a tip jar in violation of corporate policy (used to work at Subway) and the guy was doing tricks with the sandwich ingredients. He had a routine where he dropped the cheese on like Salt Bae and then mock-tossed it into the toaster oven. Then he jerked his hand away and said "OUCH" like he got burned from touching the hot oven, but then transitioned it into a 5 second dance routine that was pre-planned (he had never actually burnt his hand).The whole time he was looking at me like I was expected to clap and cheer for his antics. In fact, I was very uncomfortable and confused. Why was this strange man dancing with my sandwich and soliciting tips against corporate policy?I don't need this when I'm trying to get fast food (keyword: fast). My dining experience was delayed by this showboating employee for no good reason. I don't like messing with people but this didn't sit right with me. My old man taught me to stand up for what's right regardless of consequences. So I sent an email about this to Subway's corporate office. He did not get fired, but when I was in a week later, the tip jar was gone and the service returned to being dignified.Remember that you have the power to change things. The customer is always right. Get the manager, email corporate, make sure they know they shouldn't cross these lines.
>>519755090Lotta words for not my problem.
>>519755192I'm so sorry leaf. All you can do is probably stretch what little skin you have to maybe recover some skin. RIP
>>519755090It is, but they wont call it that because businesses would have to pay a reasonable wage. Businesses can pay delivery next to nothing because "you get tips" and they just pretend each driver is bagging 150 a day while they pay them 4 an hourNow prices are too high so people don't like tipping and instead of force the business to pay THEIR WORKER WAGES they try to throw it on us.There's actually tons of studies on this over min wage increases and the TLDR is businesses didnt have to up prices on stuff if they could throw the extra expense on customers, that is no longer happening and delivery is being hit the hardest.
>>519755192kekHave a (you)
>>519754892Even God Almighty doesn't ask for more than 10%.
>>519762141Reality is the average barista would not be a good maid/butler/nanny. You have to be able to trust them not to steal shit and to show up to work on time and exercise some degree of judgement. Fast food workers are basically none of this, which is why their jobs are designed to be done by room temperature IQ monkeys with enough redundancy that things can go on even if the average degenerate there misses work 20% of the time and quits after a month.
>>519758703had to spend some time in illinois for work and a jeet subway was close to my hotel. they somehow managed to jeet the bread to where it was half as dense as it should be. never seen it that way anywhere else but it's like they skimped on the bread recipe and the bread was lightweight and flimsy and fell apart. imaginemy shock
>>519770148trvke
>>519768804i had fun with you on this journey
>>519768229i did this but at a college bar back in the day. pretty soon hot waitresses were bringing drinks to my table for free and when i left i'd just leave a 10 on the table and they'd keep it all and shaft the business
>>519768804Should get some crackling, crunch the bag up and sprinkle it on top for some crunch.
>>519758703jeets get a no interest "small business loan" to buy up American businesses that they recycle with their family members every 7 years. You literally not allowed to compete white boy.
>>519754892>order a pizza, total comes to $35 for the pizza and a 2-literAre you literally retarded? You can get two pizzas and a liter of soda for $18 at Domino's
>>519754892Do americans tip cashiers when they go to McDonalds?
>>519754892Procedural tipping is just another parasitic way companies have optimized for profit rate. Originally, tipping was a cultural thing that people did when there was exceptional service, and tips were given directly to the person who did the service, as a gift. But the process was expertly co-opted by parasitic companies to get away with paying their employees even less, to maximize their own profit rateFuck parasites
>>519754892After my weekly hikes I go to a Starbucks on the way home grab my wife a drink so she doesn't bitch about me being out for so long. And I have noticed the tip choice over the last two years was whittled down from the being a percentage, to a set price and minimum was three dollars, and now minimum is a dollar. I still don't tip.
My sister got kicked out of a place in vegas for not tipping lol
>>519755090Then get a better job.
>>519755801>rarely ever claimedyou live under a rock? "No tax on tips" is law now
>>51975580140 percent voted for no tips the other 60 percent works for tips
>>519754892Tipping is actually disappearing here compared to decades ago. People used to pay cash and then at least leave the small change. Nowadays you pay by card and don't have coins in your wallet, the waiter is usually some foreigner anyway so who cares. I only tip in a select few of my favourite restaurants that I would be genuinely sad if they went away. Places that give you a free digestif on the house. My goto Italian restaurant got rid of the free digestif, so no more tip for them. Two can play at that game.
>>519754892In Ontario servers now make at least minimum wage but we are still expected to tip. The only place I tip is at sit down restaurants that I go to often.
>>519775219>40 percent voted for no tips the other 60 percent works for tipswell since you put it like that...
>>519755090I worked at a restaurant. Servers got reimbursed for minimum wage in their paychecks whatever they didn't get in tips. Don't ever be pressured to tip unless it's a stripper.
>>519761982Yeah fuck that you don't charge over $5 dollars for a coffee and then beg for a tip at what is essentially a fast food counter job.
>>519761998Literally get premade dough and make your own pizza at home.
>>519755192Ranjeetbros...
>>519755090ask your boss for better pay not me
>'my job is so shit i depend on handouts'the industry you work in deserves a lengthy worker shortage. simple as.
>>519754892I refuse to go out to eat. I cook almost all the meals for my family. Fuck tipping culture.
>serve 30+ customers an hour >"I won't make minimum wage unless every one tips $5 each Roasties and niggers are scamming you
>>519763174maybe if your service was better you would have got those tips. or maybe you should realise you have no real skills and don't deserve a tip for menial labour and what your boss pays you is your proble,then again it's pointless making the argument, you're American
>>519755192Badumtz.
>>519755090>>519754892What the fuck, get two bucks and go run off you zoomer monsters
>>519754892american richfags give service plebs 15% tips like they can shit gold.
you see all of this is not sustainable, now youre surrounded by niggers and the planet is polluted. hope your goyslop tastes good.
>>519766571no it means she makes minimum wage 60% of which is paid by tips and 40% by her employer. It would be 100% by the employer if nobody tipped (but if that continued I assume they'd raise prices so I guess it's supposed to come to the same sort of thing). Maybe tip amount should be based on the customer's income lol.
IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. no matter how hard you lazy richfags cope. now the turd worlders wiping your ass are so low level tier that they cant hold themselves from raping and killing everyone.you dont find no more people on earth that are going to wipe your asses. its all fleeced. your shit world of being lazy and entitled is over.
>>519755090>However, several customer service workers explained that their income relies heavily on tips, asking customers “not to skip.”Sue your boss for failing to pay the legal minimum wage. Problem solved.
>>519754892you cheap niggersbut I get it, you dumb niggers dont earn much and thus dont want to tip muchI tip well and I get treated very well because of itthat sushi place I go, the chefs all say hi and smile and raise their knoives in the air when I arrivetake care of your help and they take care of youI'm not rich by any means but fuckin hell I at least take care of those who serve me
>>519755090>Unfortunately about 60% of my paycheck is from those tips so it does actually affect us a lot,” one said.This statement makes LITERALLY NO SENSE.if tips do not bring one's salary up to state or federal minimum wage, the boss MUST compensate the worker for the difference. you NEVER make under minimum wage, no matter what.any faggot nigger who says "I survive on tips" is lying. What they are actually saying is "I'm working a minimum wage job but think that I am worth more than minimum wage". in which case, their dispute is with their employer, not the customer.fuck wagies. haven't eaten out or tipped since 2020, feels fucking fantastic. used to tip generously, too. but then people got pissy. one time at a bar I gave the bartender $1 for taking the cap off a beer on the counter (literally 1 second to do) after he took it out of the fridge to give it to me. he got angry and said because the bottle is a $12 bottle, that I should have tipped him $3 or around 30% for it.I almost threw it at him. found the manager on the way out (asked someone else who worked there to speak with the manager), tore him a new one and made a scene, left, and never went back. hope other people also chose to never return there.
>>519755493You can't say that word.
>>519755192Definitely not an Indian.
>>519780078and even when I would tip 20% on food, wagies would get angry because they wanted me to tip the 20% AFTER TAX AND DELIVERY FEE... no, the tip is calculated on the BASE PRICE pre-tax pre-delivery fee.ffs wagies are so fucking retarded now it's insane. I'm only 30 but I swear to fucking god that before 2010 or so it was never like this.
>>519754892>Walks back into your property to argue with you.That's a violation of the NAP.
>>519754892>20% is standard if the service was good 1. Just say 'yes' and close the door2. 15-25% if the service is EXCEPTIONAL. 0% otherwise.3. There's already a delivery fee. That IS the tip.
>>519779985I don't give a shit if the sushi chef waves their knives in the air or says hello. I want my food and that's it.
>>519779985you sound like a faggot.
>>519754892I wanna give her more than the tip
>>519754892>order pizza>for pick up >prepay online>no tip>lady at the register gives you receipt to sign>Cross out tip line, write in total without til and sign>nothing personal wagie
>>519755090>>519754892I stopped tipping when the delivery charge went to $5.Your boss can pay you with that.
>>519760410Liw quality BaitYouexpectmetofallforthis.jpg
>>519768241Instant coffee is based and minimalist pilled
im not tipping the uberjeets driver because he threw my order at the wrong door while yelling loudly on speakerphone in the hallway. just because you are an absolute third world retard who can't get a job beyond driving food around doesnt mean I owe you extra money.If I get good service at a restaurant I will tip generously. do something that deserves a tip; I'll give it. the regular turbandelivery guy? nope. and that doesnt make me a nigger.
>>519754892When I was young 5% was the norm. Bidenflation has hit even the tips
>>5197548922-literGtfo europoor with your metric bullshit
>>519768810It's bait, kid.
>>519781791I think he's making a joke about them using the word "subway" to describe a metro
>>519754892I had a big order at a dispensary and the guy was being a dick.He literally moved the tip jar over.So I grabbed a dollar out of my wallet.Tipped him a dollar out of a 200 dollar order.Said thanks for the great help.Stop being weak faggots.
>>519780078>bring one's salary up to state or federal minimum wageThat's not what is happening here though, it's "60% of my PAYCHECK" and this means they were already making at least minimum wage before tips. It means that almost two-thirds of their check was just fucking tips and depending on where that person was they may be making even more than federal minimum wage.
>>519755090>60% tipsokay so basically baristas get paid twice the minimum wage if you include tips? why would they deserve TWICE the minimum wage? this is more than some jobs that require higher education, there's just no way to justify this
>>519782527You may not know it but starbucks baristas in Washington state even have a workers union lmao. They get paid $15/hour minimum.
>>519756135Mmmm bow bow. Chigga chigga.
>>519758655I worked with a guy that would bother about such things.We had a hot little Latina waitress i was enjoying and he was working out his 15%, the rest of us just give 20-25%While he is doing this and her nips are poking out, telling me to do the right thing, I says to him I says>It you put as much effort into your job as you do making sure this great waitress doesn’t get an extra nickel you could just tip like a normal personIf you fucks are too broke to tip without it being a financial concern, stay home you losers.It’s very very brown coded to cry about tipping. But a new challenger is emerging, the fat loser that still eats out constantly.
>>519754892It's amazing how triggered so many people are by a default setting on a common touch pad payment system. I've noticed that zoomers and boomers have a lot in common.
>>519754892>i require tip to survivethen get a real job or tell the chef to fucking pay you directly *slam*
>>519755090>I make minimum wage and half of it is tips so I need the tips!>Employer forced to pay the minimum wage even there are no tips at all.They're always trying to make it sound like they make LESS than the minimum wage without tips.In reality they make minimum wage + 60% tips. They're basically complaining about making way more than your average minimum wage worker flipping burgers or stacking shelves, who don't get tipped by anyone.
>>519783091You are such a pathetic fag
>>519754892>be me>drop 1 dollar cash on the counter >hit no tipFolks love me. Cash bros stay winning. Costs me 4 bucks a month.
>>519783091>woweee booba take all my money!You are the reason the world sucks.
>>519783091I tip with whole dollar amounts based entirely upon service rendered to me with my stay and I'm never going to tip someone more than their hourly wage, even if a service cost $500+. If you have to work for tips, you are subhuman.
>>519782744okay, do you know any jobs that get paid 37.5 dollars per hour? because thats what that barista earns including tips, apparently
>>519754892Honestly.I do the same.I do the chase for the thrill of the chase.However once I get a good look at them while pinning them down I say to them "No, you are too ugly to even deserve the tip" and just walk away.We are not the same.
>>519784188I do but they aren't no-skill jobs like baristas are. That is basically what they are admitting they are making hourly, they're just shysters.
>>519756135Instant coffee is garbage compared to basic bitch drip coffee.
>>519755192Sippy bippy
>>519755090they use those jobs to promote their only fans pornos
>>519755192B a s e d
Ordering food is subhuman. Make it yourself. Anything worth eating can be made by a white man.
>>519783872I don't blame scutworkers for trying to make an extra buck, I blame the kikes who sic them on the public. Most of these yid bastards could just outright pay their employees more and still enjoy a healthy profit margin but they've got to squeeze just a little bit more. It's just another form of Jew gouging.
>>519755801>be me, anon who used to work at a bar in alberta in leduc.Best night for one of the slutty 7/10's was 2400 in tips, they average 6-800 a night, then 1000 on weekends.Its entirely based on attractiveness, so thats topkek.>Oilfield money too.
>>519785053its pretty hard, I tried making some chinese and first thing I didn't have 2-3 of the ingredients so I had to substitute, then I didn't have the right cuts of chicken so everything was sort of a mockery of chinese takeout. and that's something you can make on a stove, what about deep frying or smoked meats? sure 10 trips to a fast food place could instead pay for equipment but it'll take a few dozen attempts to get it right. not saying it's not worth it but it's very discouraging
>>519756360I lost my job a month ago and because I'm the sole provider for a family of 4 we are raking in about $4k/mo in total benefits. If I could work for $1k/wk cash under the table I'd be right back to where my after tax income was at $130k/yr. That's how these illegals are affording to work for poverty wages, they go to a state that gives benefits to non-citizens, shit out some kids, and collect gibs. Their cash wages are either pocket money, or money they send home to buy or finance a business. Punishing employers who hire illegals solves part of the problem, the rest is eleminating birthright citizenship and denying benefits to non-citizens. Illegals can't afford poverty wages either if they're not supported by gibs.
>>519754892I'm just making own meals
>>519787136You're not making pizza in a thermos and Ill kill you for claiming you did
>>519768089that's below minimum wage where I live.
