>>519758371
you could just be your own person

>>519758514
then i'd be a gigantic faggot because modernity is fucking gay. i need roots and lineage or something.

>>519758371
Have you considered growing a spine and being yourself?

>>519758597
you don't have to be gay to be your own person you just have to not depend on some historical stereotype

>>519758727
who are you? with sincerity

>>519758371
Let me introduce you to Christianity. THE root.

>>519758745
i'd still be me faggot. this is some weird simple minded interpretation you are using.

>>519758371
>Is history fake and gay anyways?
Yes.

How do people write history?
Every culture has records of their kings lineage going back to the gods that created the world. This also includes records of wars with neighbouring kingdoms. When one conquers the others, they pick up the other records ang look up "obviously they are wrong in their god-given lineage, because WE have the god given lineage, so this recent part that matches up with ours is true, the older part that doesn't is myth". That's how everyone always wrote history: locally.

Until the jesuits travelled the world and compiled world history explaining how Christ is the center of history (BC/AC, etc) and fitting the entire world's history into their timeline.

Except they were removed by the actual illuminati about 300 years ago and history got replaced with this big bang bullshit fake and gay history we have today.

I'm not even saying that the jesuit history is the correct one, but its the one we still see some remains that illuminati tried to cover up with their own history if you go digging up. But seriously, how trustworthy are either the illuminati or the jesuits anyway?

Just go digging and you'll find a bazillion things that don't match up the official history and it's just swept under the rug. My personal favourite "first step" down this rabbit hole is sunken cities near a lot of coasts. None align up with ice age melts or when human civilization should have started.

It is all fake and gay. Stop worrying about that.

>>519758891
>i'd still be me
>then i'd be a gigantic faggot
sounds like you're coming out
maybe try electroshock therapy if you're unhappy about being gay

>>519758922
i've got fingerprints of the gods, magicians of the gods (or something close to that don't remember the title) and before america. by graham handick. you read these? i haven't read them yet.

>>519758514
If you want to find an identity that fits you, you need to first get to know yourself.

That is not easy.

>>519758371
ya labels are retarded and pressure to adopt one is retarded. If you're considering those choices as an identity you don't need to worry about your race, but even then, fuck it. You have choices, what you choose is who you are.

How about identifying as Trump

>>519758371
history isnt fake, history gets rewritten when its proven wrong.
christianity, islam, judaism and some greko-roman is fake since its sitting on top of the Torah as its foundation.
not only is the source for all three abrahamic religions extremely fake since all the jerusalem shit is all nonsense,
judaism traces back only to the elephantine papyrus and christianity made themselves infamous for forged books
and forged letters if not medieval art to portray jews in a more european light.

this is why there are so many christians going absolutely retarded over nordic israelism, they cant deal with the cognitive dissonance.

>>519758371
Don't look at vague heritage. Look at concrete things that make who you are,
>Where do I live?
>What type of art I enjoy?
>What food do I like to eat?
>What history do I find compelling?
>What are my spiritual beliefs?
>What kind of people are my brethren?

>>519759187
i guess i should have been more specific. but just take "identity to latch on to" in a more nuanced way and you should understand what i meant. >>519759313
>nordic israelism
QRD?

>>519759082
No, I didn't. Like I said, I believe it's all fake and gay, and the truth is unreachable, imho. So I just don't care. I'm br mutt so there's not even some way i can get some "roots or lineage". My mother was adopted, so I can't even go up that hill if I wanted to, there are no jungle records from back then. Just stop caring searching for some unknowable truth and just pick any myth that is useful. I'm a brownzilian white supremacist who hates jews. That halped me /sig/ out the hole I was in and climbed into a good place in life. Fnd some purpose, anon. Look into the future and imagine whatever past might help you get there. It's easy to make yourself believe whatever you want to. Just act as if you do and eventually you will. That's the secret they're keeping from you.

>>519759463
>the truth is unreachable
Truth is based on consistency. We believe gravity is true because it always works as expected. We know the sun comes and goes every day. We know humans have existed for thousands of years. Pure relativism is poison to the mind.

>>519759463
you seem squared away but you can't really help in the discussion because you aren't white and can't fully comprehend it. nothing personal.

>>519758371
what do you feel a pull to? what makes you averse to it? what are your beliefs or values that steer around that?

phase 2: ???

>>519759596
You're no better than he is. You are spiritually rootless like a jew.

>>519759421
nordic israelism is exactly as you describe it in your text, theyre experiencing spiritual gas lighting or cognitive dissonance when theyre trying to both be anti-jewish,
and at the same time: trying to worship a jew and the god of jews, based on the judaic book Torah.

So theres madeup history by a bunch of people who have no real experience and theyre still referring to these three sources, one of them being some sort of navy guy
if memory serves me well, another is an explorer and so forth.. so theres essentially no historical backing behind the theory.

so they are left with word games, theyre comparing the hebrew word Dan with the germanic (PIE root) Dani & Danu and steal everything from that alone.
usually compiling this vauge and absolutely ridiculous theory with murals of Alexander the great when he met with jews that was created several hundred years after
which of course looks more white since thats how Hellenic art was like and went with their own beauty standards just like the medieval christian arts in europe.

its just one big mess of absolute ridiculous claims that never reaches support from either genealogy, archaeology or historians.
cognitive dissonance and spiritual crisis in a nutshell.

but if you feel like youre spiritual then just choose whatever feels the most close at home and see if it sticks, abarahamic slop is just pure spiritual castration though.

Just ask yourself, what would Trump do. And do that.

>>519758371
Be an anarchist, you don’t have to choose an identity. Question what authority is and isn’t legitimate. The ultimate, hidden truth of the world is that it is something that we make, and could just as easily make differently. If history shows anything, it is that there's no better way to justify relations founded on violence, to make those relations seem moral, than by reframing them in the language of debt—above all, because it immediately makes it seem that it's the victim who's doing something wrong.

>>519759833
i recently started getting interested in alexander the great and listened to a patched together version of his "greatest speech ever". was awesome.
anyways yeah I am Christian. funnily enough I recently had this weird crisis of faith. and norse/viking stuff was the catalyst. I pulled back from vikings because I got scared that it would lead me to some demonic stuff and eventually came back to Christ. this last 2 or 3 weeks. very recent.

>>519759574
I understand relativism bad. But I can't know for sure the "thousands of years". Sure, one or two thousand? I can get behind that. But begin looking at tartaria and other weird shit. I'm not saying tartaria is true, but it throws a lot of wrenches into the flimsy narrative we currently have, to the point it becomes unbelievable. Sure, we might have existed thousands of years ago. How does that affect me personally, in current year? I'm not wasting my few brain cells with that.

>>519759596
My skin is white, for brazil standards (i.e. I get the white hate you guys get from the other monkeys here, that's why I sympathize with your struggle). And I am going after my "european roots": someone in my mother's adopted family found some euro ancestor and we're going for citizenship. Soon I'll be as white as shitalians. But before that, I latched onto portuguese "ancestry" in the cultural sense, at least: all the good things that were built by whites in Brazil? Portuguese. So my hatred for kike-pushed race-mixing destroying the nice things? I funneled it into Portuguese supremacy.

But I can see how this fluidity sounds more kike than what a true wyatt mann would consider acceptable. "I'm whatever race suits me at the moment" sounds bad. I don't care, it's not like I can find something better. Sometimes, looking at my physiognomy, and my mother's, and how sometimes she goes turbo liberal, I wonder if she's just woman brained or full kike. I don't want to go down that hole.

But you do you, fren. I hope you find you're looking for. And I also hope you find happiness. Dunno if you'll find both at the same place.

Jus be cleetus with da beetus as God intended son

>>519760153
what is so special about being white anyways? look at the state of the west. it is a fucking joke. whites are literally the biggest cucks on the planet.

>>519758371
gamers are the most opressed race

>>519760044
theres absolutely nothing to be afraid of, the way that christians describe demons is made up to cull followers and everything abrahamic is completely stuck,
stuck as in full of contradictions, loopholes, forgeries and absolute nonsense in ways that makes people disappear or never having existed.
(the first time that christians called someone demons was us, the white Europeans: roman and Germanic.)

id recommend watching this since he elaborates on these topics really well, basically: because christians destroyed so much about prehistoric gods,
we might never know enough and the closest source we have so far is that the word God literally becomes from Woden and then we cant go much further.
since well, the christians fucking destroyed everything to mark their own territory like rabid inbred dogs pissing on every corner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUCiYdPJHn8

>>519760332
>biggest cucks
Not in my power fantasy, you see. I'm from a race of trve blooded aryan warriors and I gotta live up to that. That pushes me to wake up in the morning and hate the jews all day long. My imagined ancestors are smiling upon me, imperial, are yours?

>>519758371
>I can't find an identity to latch on to
Why not identify as an american from x state and y town, why the need to larp?

>>519760402
just out of curiosity can you tell me exactly what your beliefs are?
>>519760430
kek

>>519758371
tranny behaviour

>>519760616
because america is gay, black, and jewish as fuck
and texas is the blackest (literally the highest nigger population of any state), gayest (austin is literally more gay than cali) and most jewish (we are on the cutting edge of censoring the slightest spat with the jew)
that's why

Put on the orange makeup OP

>>519760622
i believe in our old gods, i've always been relatively realist yet open minded: i want to find magic in our lives and around us.
The realist in my always having found that the human body was too conveniently resilient for its own good and that if something exist, there's never only one of it.

so it becomes simple, our germanic faith falls into place very smoothly and i try to remain open for greek but considering that plato helped christians/jews gage univeralism
and therefor makes me skeptical about even the greek unlike germanic who never tried to impress anyone but their own gods and ancestors.

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>>519760982
this was the single best propaganda i've found for them.
i also found out for the norse that they had tranny gods and one of them shapeshifted into a female horse and got fucked. idk.

>>519761083
that is just christians in a spiritual crisis who feel threatened as their own religion isnt dominant despite church bodies being a billion dollar industry
and statue funded with various different church spokespersons working under them and coordinating the flow of money from anonymous donations
that reach all the way into the american government and its american to israel partnership with mythic dynamics crutching it.

firstly, the "tranny" thing is about the thunder god having dressed up as a woman to infiltrate the giants to reclaim his hammer.
- a symbol of doing whats needed to be done, "wise enough to be the fool" get your hands dirty if needed be, if it saves your people.

the second one is a similar expression related to Loki, symbolized as war stratagem.
TL;DR christians taking things literally, the same people who pretend to hate jews, worshiping jews and a jewish book often referring to greenberg for cum drinking.

>>519761448
> and statue funded with various different church spokespersons
state funded*

>>519761448
serious question: would you suck a dick to save your people?
perhaps not even a fair hypothetical. but maybe it is. either way, I do prefer the Bible's directive to never dress as a woman. i'd like to think i wouldn't break that but if put on the spot in some horror scenario i guess i wouldn't know until it happened.

>>519761752
no and i dont think a whole lot of agents of any country at all through history has ever got their ass fucked while infiltrating other countries,
but i can understand if christians think a lot about sex when theyre told to feel ashamed about having sex which today becomes incels in spiritual crisis worshiping jews.

so many false promises, its a real tragedy.

>>519758823
I WALKED BOB DYLAN UP ON STAGE
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?

>>519761993
is that midget trumpet guy?

>>519761993
groupies die of fentanol overdose you are an old soul

>>519761083
they stole that from vishnu who was a tranny

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>>519758371
>study warrior culture
>come to any other conclusion than realizing the significance of the black flag
raise the black flag and become flying dutchmanpilled

>>519762388
>raise the black flag and become flying dutchmanpilled
what's that all about? strange i just listened to some of wagner's flying dutchman for the first time yesterday. the overture is really good.

>>519762302
you might understand that theres nothing about sexual in the story if you read it, dressing up to infiltrate enemies despite how reluctant they were, that is all what its about.

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>>519762208
https://youtu.be/ha7smLPz2GY

>>519761947
>but i can understand if christians think a lot about sex when theyre told to feel ashamed about having sex which today becomes incels in spiritual crisis worshiping jews
Abrahamic religions lead to sexual deviancy as a byproduct of establishing taboos that tempt people to break them in secret for excitement.
We live in a society where people act prude in public and proceed to beat their meat to absolute filth in private.
>DONT THINK ABOUT FUCKING ANIMALS DONT THINK ABOUT FUCKING ANIMALS DONT THINK ABOUT FUCKING MAN ASS DONT THINK ABOUT FUCKING MAN ASS
Absolutely normal thought process that totally stops you from thinking about this kind of stuff lmao.

>>519762819
I needed this post. thanks. sticking with the Bible and never looking back. you freaks.

>>519762819
yeah, you probably arent thinking about fucking animals if you actually have access to a woman.
hence why christians are the most often extremely degenerate and dysfunctional.

>>519762894
Your moral panics introduce people to shit they never would've encountered in the first place.
>Be a kid
>Roll some dice to play pretend with friends to be a hero of myth
>BUT THATS SATANIC screams christkek Karen
>Literal innocent children get introduced to the ideas of occultism and satanism
>Game reaches mainstream on the platform of shrieking christkeks
Same with troons.
>A few freaks have a mental illness
>BUT THIS WILL DESTROY OUR SOCIETY AND MAKE KIDS GAY screams christkek Karen
>More people who otherwise never would've heard about it get introduced to the perversion on the platform of christkeks
>fast forward a few decades
>troons reach mainstream

It's a pattern. How I wish you retards just stuck to the bible like you said.

>>519763030
It doesn't even cross the healthy thought process.
Meanwhile abrahamic retards need a holy text to tell them not to do it.

I wouldn't even understand the concept of animal rape or troons were it not for moral panic of christkeks who can't stop screaming about the most filthy of shit.

>>519758371
>I can't find an identity to latch on to
Then crawl one out for yourself fucking faggot.

>>519763287
>>519763362
>my god shapeshift into a tranny horse to take horse dick in the horse bussy and then gets pregnant
>omg your christkikes are so weird why would you tell people not to fuck guys in the ass or have sex with animals!!!!!

>>519763617
evidently, christians will take metaphors literally even after someone has explained the story for them.

deceitful, dishonest losers devoid of honor and dignity.

>>519763617
Are you implying I could follow the example of one of the germanic gods and shapeshift into a horse? Lmao.
I mean... culturally christian nations believe a man can shapeshift into a woman so it's not too far fetched in your mind.

I'll let you know what I think about fucking horses when I learn how to transform into one, retard.

>>519763842
>i'll get back to you after i order a furry costume and go fuck a horse
lol okay you sure showed me

>>519758891
This is the point, being you is good, you don't need a godamn lineage or race or whatever. Learn a skill, take pride in yourself, who you are as a person. Lest you become like the average /pol/nigger who hates himself and tries to take pride in accomplishments he had nothing to do with.

>>519763937
maybe the time that jesus got caught with an underage boy might ruin you before you got to the store in the first place.

>>519764121
>Learn a skill
cool i will just learn to code or do hvac and pay money to zog so they can take my money and give it to niggers and illegals and israel but hey at least i am standing on my own without a lineage or race or whatever

>>519763937
Furries are a byproduct of your moral panics, way to prove my point mate.

In the past when you wore an animal skin it was a transcendental ritual.
In modernity culturally christian retards wear animal skin to have gay sex.

In the past when you saw a man who wore woman's clothing it was a sorcerer trying to appear inhuman to trick the spirits that he is one of them.
In modernity it's a culturally christian homosexual pretending to be a woman.

Your retarded kind ruined everything that was mystical or higher in this world and offered no replacements which brought everything down to a hedonistic nihilistic level, hope you're glad. Even your most holy of rituals are just an excuse to go shopping.

>>519764270
modernity is the antithesis of Christianity. even in a lot or maybe even in most churches.
>my god is a literal tranny furry but achtually this is Christians fault
retarded

>>519764362
>tranny furry
These terms only make sense in an abrahamic framework, they never existed outside of it.

Stop grooming kids by telling them about absolute filth and eternal torture while pretending it's a warning to save them, thanks.

>>519764362
>modernity is the antithesis of Christianity
Wrong. Modern occident is a final product of christianity. It's like saying the apple is not the same apple after a worm crawls out of it.

>>519758371
I identify as a black nigger

>>519764362
modernity is what christianity always strived for
- flirting with plato, adopting him as their own thing
- flirting with romans, overthrowing the roman rule by demonizing all forms of societal cohesion
- flirting with germanics, adopting our warrior culture by creating warrior saind and etc.

christianity birthed unversalism ffs, now its globalism and trooning out.
christianity avoided the intellectual class, they wanted the ones that are easily controlled
(easy church money, taxed them so hard until people were absolutely devastated)

I've never had this issue. I'm Polish, brought up Christian but hold beliefs of my own. God exists, but not in a sense described by any "holy" book. God is more like a pure force of creation, that does neither good nor evil. He, or rather, it, simply exists. This doesn't mean spirituality has no point. Rather, it brings one closer to the understanding of the workings behind everything in the Universe, because everything that exists is also part of God. It can't be simply described in human words. This is why people "humanized" the concept of God/Gods, having him think in ways that people understand but cannot predict. That's an approximation of what I said earlier. Things happen because they can, not because they must. Future isn't written in the stars, it's a total sum of all events currently happening, the future is the logical continuation of the present. Even if the Universe was a simulation, God being the ultimate force of pure creation would still stand as it did.
Nobody knows what truly lies beyond life until they truly die - which means brain death, as it's the organ tethering us to observable reality. Nobody who truly died has yet come back to tell us what lies after.

>>519765373
>our warrior culture
>Stayed out of all wars
>Eventually joins (((NATO)))
>But the Hollywood movies ...

>>519765704
>Swedes
>Staying out of wars
Open a damn book mate, holy shit.

>>519765512
>God is more like a pure force of creation, that does neither good nor evil.
So your religion is basically Star Wars. Is your political system Star Trek by any chance

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>>519765778
>Me opens book
>WW1 WW2
>Swedes stayed out
>Me closes book

>>519765704
> stayed out of all wars
huh..? weve been in constant wars all the way up until the 1800s you absolute retard.
ever since, there hasnt been a dignified war at all.

just a bunch of american mussy slop

>>519765941
he thinks sweden was neutral kek, no idea why people were handed funny symbols

>>519766058
>until the 1800s
Lmao

>>519765941
>Swedes stayed out of WW1 and WW2
And it was wise. Two gayest least honorable wars.

>>519766194
Staying out of wars is not warrior culture, dumbass
That's my point

>>519766236
>Nothing before year 1900 is culture or has influenced christianity at all
Your argument is retarded and you are retarded too.

>>519758371
Identity is illusory and has been overemphasised. Just be, and do, and affect the world around you to be safer, kinder, more aesthetically beautiful.

>>519758922
>Except they were removed by the actual illuminati about 300 years ago and history got replaced with this big bang bullshit fake and gay history we have today.

It's always the least well read people that will spend hours of watching slop of this kind

>>519766295
>Keeps moving goalposts
Sweden today doesn't have a warrior culture.
Sweden in the 20th century didn't have a warrior culture
Prove me wrong.
>But muh Vaykings from Lolywood movies
It's all bullshit. Every nation was warrior 2000y ago

>>519765868
Nah, I'm not a fan of either. I wouldn't say The Force has much to do with God as I see it, since The Force is more like some kind of energy that can be utilized by a chosen few - and those few decide whenever they use it for good or evil.
You can't "use" God, it's beyond your reach just like the stars during the night. No matter how long your arm is, you can never reach them, but you know and can see they are there - just existing. Them being there is neither good nor evil. Stars exist because they can, not because they must. They're a logical sum of events occuring up to their creation.
You don't have a say in whenever you're born or not. It's until you become conscious and aware of your surroundings, you can begin to choose what to do with them. It's what also births the concepts of good and evil. Those evolved along with humanity and cultures around the world. Their beliefs changed as well.

>>519766194
We were playing both sides, Sweden was in a political turmoil at the time and an absolute abomination was created together with C-Byrån, SIS, SOE & OSS.
Germany never wouldve been able to win, they were too pushy, too desperate and riddled with corrupted the more Hitler deteriorated with his health conditions.
- ranging from gut biome problems
- smelled horribly from the medications to treat it (since he was vegan)
- addicted to uppers
- tremors
- assassination attempts

Germany wouldve been the better outcome but not in the state they were in, they needed to push the propaganda longer with pagan traditions to unify Europe.
he also ignored a lot of stuff that couldve changed the tide of war greatly.

the remnants of ww2 is still with us today, the same shady actors still living on with their grandchildren from commie influences, the insecurity is still lingering in the air.
mostly because theyve become untouchable and they keep acting the same way that they always did to create career suicide against any critical opinion or worse.

>>519766443
>Moving goalposts
You did that though.
The original argument was that Christianity assimilated into European warrior culture, which is true and goes all the way back to very early medieval times.
You claimed in return that since Sweden didn't participate in wars past 1900s that it's untrue.

You are retarded.

>>519758371
americans are rootless, soulless, subhuman mutts with no culture or heritage
you denounced your European culture and identity in exchange for exploration, just like your generic whore who likes to travel and "finds herself out" to get derailed by 30 miles of cock.

>>519766466
>The Force is more like some kind of energy that can be utilized by a chosen few - and those few decide whenever they use it for good or evil.
>You can't "use" God,
Yet some people allegedly have the power to heal, predict future, perform miracles etc and they often attribute it to god and some can use it for evil

That's what being blackpilled is like, anon
Niggers like to meme about it but when you're truly at that point, it's ridiculously hard to come back from it and still see hope in humanity, at least for me

>>519766624
Christianity was a Roman state religion in the fourth century and in Sweden it was fully implemented by the 12th century. By the time it got to Sweden it was a done deal already, Swedes bought the whole package, no contributions added.
You're dumb as fuck

>>519766738
If you can do something you don't understand you will attribute it to an influence you don't comprehend.
Spirits, psionics, divine, you name it. It's a universal experience, I wouldn't tie it to any one set of beliefs.

>>519758371
Become a futurist

>>519766919
Lmao, yeah, Christianity was a done package by 1200 and hasn't changed since.
Holy shit you are retarded as fuck.

>>519766919
Both Rome & Byzanthium fell because of christianity.

> 391 – Imperial Bans on the Old Gods
• Pagan rites outlawed in the Roman Empire under Emperor Theodosius I.
• Temples closed, sacrifices banned, transition to state-backed Christianity begins.

> 410 – Visigoth Alaraic Sacked Rome
• Visigoth forces sack Rome.
• Symbolic revenge by Germanic tribes against a Christian Rome for turning on its own auxiliaries, labeled as heretics.

> 723–724 – Destruction of Donar’s Oak (Thor’s Oak)
• St. Boniface cuts down the sacred tree of the Chatti tribe in Hesse.
• A church was built on top of it.

> 772 – Destruction of the Irminsul
• Charlemagne destroys the sacred pillar/tree of the Saxons, Eresburg.
>>>>>> The trigger of the "Saxon Wars".

> 772–804 – The Saxon Wars
• Charlemagne’s brutal military campaign against the Saxons.
• Included forced conversions, executions & destruction of sacred sites.

> 775 – Conquest of Westphalia & Engria
• Charlemagne captures key regions.
• Mass baptisms & Christian systemic control cancer begins.

> 776 – Saxon Rebellion
• Renewed pagan resistance to forced conversion & Frankish rule.

> 777 – Assembly at Paderborn
• Charlemagne holds a Christian-political council.
• Saxons coerced into “converting” under threat of executions.

> 779–780 – Mass Baptisms of Saxons
• Continued effort to enforce Christianity by baptizing entire populations.
• Under duress.

> 782 – Massacre of Verden
• Charlemagne Executes 4,500 unarmed Saxon prisoners for refusing baptism.
• One of the bloodiest forced Christianization events in Europe.
>>>>>> The trigger of the "Viking Age".

> 782 – Lex Frisionum
• Legal code enforced by the Franks over the Frisians.
• Enshrines Christian norms, restricts pagan customs.

> 783 – Church Built on Irminsul
• Typical Frankish strategy: desecrate and replace pagan sites with Christian buildings.

>>519766919
Also
>Romans
Yeah, people who famously didn't clash with the germanic people or have cultural contact with them.
Retard.

>>519766919
> ~790s – Ongoing Campaigns>
• Scattered uprisings & resistance.
• Pagan practices increasingly pushed underground.

> 804 – Saxons’ Final Defeat
• Charlemagne's last conquest.
• Christianity imposed as the only legal religion.

> ~1080s – King Inge the Elder outlaws sacrifices at Uppsala (Sweden)
• Inge refused to support blóts at the Temple of Uppsala.
• Pagans replaced him with Blot-Sweyn; Inge later returned, killed Sweyn, and ended official temple rites.

> 1100s–1200s – Gotland (Guta Law) bans all pagan practices
• Blóts, offerings, and use of sacred sites (groves, mounds, “stafgarðr”) explicitly outlawed.
• Violation required multiple witnesses and fines.

> 1200s – Sweden, Norway, Denmark codify laws against paganism
• Sacred stones, hörgr, vi, groves, and mounds forbidden as religious spaces.
• Sacrificial rites criminalized under Christian law.

> 1600s – Persecution against quiet revival, Christian destruction & societal control
• The height of "witch" trials, Scandinavia, Germany & England. (e.g. Torsåker 1 June 1675 - 65 women, 2 men, 4 boys: beheaded & burned)
• Hardline Christian "enforcement" still dominant.
• Sami people & folk pagans persecuted. 1600s-1970s (e.g. Arjeplog trial, 1687)
• Christian authorities confiscated sacred drums, outlawed joik (shamanic chanting) legal persecution.
• Folk blót & nature worshippers persecuted.
• Trollkyrka & similar sites seen as "active threats" to Christian dominance.

> 1700s-1800s
• Age of Enlightenment starts creeping in (rationalism, early secularism).
• October 26th, 1668-1779 Härnösand Witch Trials, 65 women & 6 men died.
• Christian moral control still strong in rural areas.
• Some sites like Skaga Stave Church still associated with pagan customs.
• Less open executions, more cultural suppression (e.g. Site destruction, forced assimilation).

>>519766738
We can stop at allegedly and the matter becomes clear. I assure you, if even one of such people existed, with powers you describe, they'd be the most sought after person in the world. The elites would gladly kidnap such people to keep them as personal healers etc. We've been through this. Christian kings kept various Astrologers and often turned to people known as local healers.
Yet, the death claims them like it does to everyone else. Since they're a creation of this world, they must obey the unwritten laws that govern it. There's no escape from it, just like there's no escape from black hole's gravity once you've crossed the point of no return. To be beyond these laws, one would have to exist beyond the reality as we know it.

>>519766919
> 1800s - 1900s
• Rise of nationalism & romanticism brings interest to old traditions back
• christian church loses its grip over peasant farmers, thanks to the french revolution
• "Consolidation of Christian moral law" via state-church systems
• Final purges of "superstition" from rural cultures
• Hitler Reives the pagan gods, traditions & rituals

> 1900s - 2025
• The whole world allies against hitler
• Hitler lost
• NAFO
• UKRAINE
• ISRAEL
• KEBAB
• Hypermutt christians gatekeeping reality.
• Hypermutts transformed into israeli-viking-templar-spiccknights

>>519758371

Amerimutt problems

Why can't you just accept that you are an amerimutt? That's your identity, now celebrate it.

>>519767200
How did it change in terms of warrior culture since 1200s and what was brought in by Swedes
>>519767333
Checked
Your point ?
>>519767341
>Romans fought Pagans therefore Christianity is Swedish
You're an imbecile

>>519767374
>We can stop at allegedly
Well all that you say is alleged as well unless you can prove it but you can't

>>519760402
I saw exorcism irl it's not you who will convice me

>>519767443
> Your point ?
> hristianity was a Roman state religion in the fourth century and in Sweden it was fully implemented by the 12th century.
Citation: my own messages sine you cant read.
>>519767333
>>519767364
how does this look like christianity was established in the 12th century? nobody is fucking practicing it but the aristocrats since those are the ones with access to church gold.

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>>519758371
There are two ways out of clownworld.
Eternal Life
The 2nd Death
Choose wisely.

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>>519767393
fine. cheeseburgers are my favorite food anyways. and i love single action army's

>>519767557
So you're saying it was actually later than 12th century ?
Even better for my argument

>>519767596
Oi, bruz — ya ever wonder why a goat got sentenced to death in 1349 for ‘stealing turnips’?
> (cracks neck, grins like one of those priests your mum warned you to keep your little brother away from)
> (.. — the kind that benches 140kg for reps and still calls it 'God’s work')
It wasn’t about turnips. It was about who owns your ass, spiritually and agriculturally.

> Walks through the ruins of an abandoned megachurch-turned-coworking space:

Back then?
The Church ran the show.
Put your cow on trial — make sure the peasants knew:
‘Not even your livestock breathes without divine permission.’
> (spits in a holy font, flexes)
Control the animals, control the land. Control the land, control the souls. Easy maths.

> Stops — now serious. I'm about to sell you the red pill, wholesale.

That was the OG moral protocol.
Religion as the front-end UI…
Feudalism running backend scripts.
> (taps temple)
Fast forward to now?
Same game. New interface.

You tap-to-pay.
You sign-in-with-X.
You say ‘yes’ to cookies like they’re communion wafers.
Then BAM — you’re deep in a ritual of behavioral finance and algorithmic obedience.

> Strikes a statue pose — like David with 7% body fat and a crypto wallet:

This ain’t faith anymore, bruz.
It’s Protocol dressed as Morality.
No priests. No saints. Just:
— Tech CEOs slingin’ digital indulgences.
— Shareholders sniffin' your childhood like bonus clauses.

>>519767663
> (whispers, sassy as Scoobs but without the sparkle)
All sold under ‘safety, fairness, climate panic, convenience.’
But what it really is?
Freedom Dependency Domination.
Just like before.

> (rants faster, a sermon with a pump)
THEN:
Church & Nobles — owned land, ruled souls.
NOW:
Corporations & Politicians — own capital, rule perception.
Plus those Church-coded NGOs dressed in progressive robes,
preaching your salvation via 15-minute cities and recycled baggies.

> Grabs protein shake labeled Spiritus Sanctus™ – Now With Creatine.

The Revelation lads had it half right —
They saw the Gentile empires as sorcerers using pharmakeia —
Which, let’s be honest, was just their ancient word for clownworld propaganda.
> (sips, nods)
The Revelation lads weren’t warning you about Satan, bruz.
They were warning their own people about Rome.
They were an oppressed minority under an empire, flipping the script with myth:
— Call our emperors ‘the Beast.’
— Call our imperial cult ‘sorcery.’
— Call our army ‘demons.’
That’s how you delegitimise a superpower when you’ve got no swords of your own.

> Sips shake, veins like circuit boards:

It wasn’t written to wake our pagan empires up to their hidden strength.
It was written to keep the minority community spiritually separate —
> To say:
‘Don’t be seduced by their wealth or festivals. They’re deceived.
They’re temporary. Their power’s a mirage.’

Later, once Christianity became the empire, they recycled the same weapon —
but now they were demonising us "pagans" and folk traditions
to crush the old ways and lock down their monopoly on souls.

> Smirks with fruity Scooby1961-sass unfolds:

Same tool, different hands.
Myth first for survival, then for domination.
Call it a holy upload, bruz.
Once the code’s written, anyone can run it.

>>519767696
> Leans in again, voice suddenly gentle:

Sword from the Messiah’s mouth? That wasn’t a weapon.
That was a Word.
And the word was:
"Wake up, bruz. They’ve got you bent over by policy."

> Walks off, shredded silhouette against a stained-glass window depicting St. Zuckerberg casting out dopamine demons.

From barnyard goats to biometric ID,
It’s always been about who owns your outputs.
Just remember:
Every system that offers you security in one hand
has an anal probe handshake in the other.
Le Cookies Are Ready, my child.

>>519767596
This

>>519767630
you still havent read it, retard? your entier fucking argument is void.
you dont even know european history to begin with.

>>519758371
>is there some kind of pure and based fiction that will take me in?
>>519758597
>i need roots and lineage or something.

Religion. If it's real, then good for you.
If it's not, it still addresses specifically what you're looking for. Go for Catholicism or Orthodoxy as any flavor of Protestantism, to be kind to them, is entirely removed and basically self admitted to not need any pastor or priest only their bible, so it's now just you and a book instead of you and a lineage.

>>519767496
I never said I intend to prove anything, I've merely explained, or attempted to, the way I see the existence of God. I'm not interested in trying to convince anyone, as it's meaningless. It won't change the great workings of the Universe, nor the world we're currently inhabiting.
If you're looking for a meaningful change to your surroundings, then you need to organize with like-minded individuals. As they say, be the change you want to see. Politicians are corrupt and care only about their immediate surroundings, not about the people as a whole. But, no matter how rich they are, they're still just people - and this is why they can be defeated.

>>519767718
Sleep now, Christian child.
Fold your thoughts like hands in prayer.
Truth is fire — let it pass.
> Faith is softer. Stay there.

> Don’t ask. Don’t climb.
The book is closed.
The priest will read.
He knows what’s best.
> He bleeds for you.
You need not bleed.

> Wear the cross, but not the weight.
- Drink the wine, but not the fate.
The garden’s gone.
The gate is sealed.
> Let mystery remain concealed.

Kneel when told.
Speak when led.
The answers live.
> The questions — dead.

He is watching.
> So are we.

> Bow your head, and cease to see.

Bliss is blind.
And blind is blessed.

> Now sleep, dear sheep, in shepherd’s rest.

>>519767852
Are you saying it was later, retard ?
Because it sure as fuck wasn't sooner
>But some guys were practicing it in the 9th century
Some guys practiced Taoism or Buddhism in the USA since hippy days, doesn't make America Buddhist you dumb fuck
So which is it ?
Btw even if it was it would be 500 y after Rome or, according to your logic 900 because Christianity literally started in Roman Empire ca 33 AD and some Romans were practicing it since then

>>519768078
You'll realize that Europe was never truly christian if you read the fucking messages: strong illiteracy -> 1600s rise of banking -> 1600s crushing the catholic church in the 30 year war -> voluntary literacy -> birth of the independent thought

>>519758371
It's possible to have an ancestor from each of these categories as a North American I don't get the problem.

>>519768205
That has nothing to do with my argument
You're dumb and tiresome
Don't reply to me, thanx

>>519759093
You don't search identity you have one, the only researchs you have to make is on your family genealogy.

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>>519768321
- “[Satan]… must be released for a short time. He will go out to deceive the nations (τὰ ἔθνη, ta ethnē) in the four corners of the earth — Gog & Magog — to gather them for battle.”
> Revelation 20:3

- “[They] marched up over the broad plain of the earth & surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven & consumed them.”
> Revelation 20:8

> Apocalyptic Weaponization of the Word (Word of god = Sword of God) Against Gentile Might.

- Early Jewish & Christian apocalyptic texts, written by minorities under the domination of powerful Gentile empires, did not merely describe their oppressors.
— They "weaponized their religious narrative" —using the “Word of God” as a symbolic sword "Sword of God"
— to delegitimize & condemn both military and political might of these empires.

- The “nations” (Goyim / Ethnē) represent the dominant Gentile powers, viewed not just as foreign peoples,
— but as spiritually "Deceived & corrupt forces aligned with Satan"
> (Revelation 20:3, 20:8).

- The Empire’s control is portrayed as “Sorcery” (Pharmakeia),
— a metaphor for the seductive power of wealth, propaganda & false religion that keeps the nations under its sway
> (Revelation 18:23).

- The Messiah’s “Sword from his mouth” (Revelation 19:15) symbolizes the Word of God’s authority & power,
— serving as the oppressed’s weapon against the empire’s physical swords - an inversion of power where divine truth is sharper than any iron blade
> (Hebrews 4:12).

— By casting the empire’s military might as rebellion against God, these texts transform the empire from a worldly power
— into an "Agent of cosmic evil destined for destruction"
> (Psalm 2, Revelation 11:18).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAYOAs-E2Yk

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>>519758371
after the first two, youre looking almost exclusively at judaized cultures
the latter half of the former two also judaized. you can usually tell by the fact jewish things have spontaneously arisen.

when you read hesiod/herodotus, you should know theyre speaking metaphorically to try to facilitate conceptual understanding as an elder might to a child. they dont literally believe x. its just meant to show a process of the divine's role since its creation it will be forced to address certain problems, and learn certain concepts in order to have introduced them here to us.

but its too late now. people are so dumbed down they cant do abstractions of thought beyond one or even two magnitudes, so One god is all theyll ever be capable of comprehending. the damage of abrahamism hasnt just been on minds and thoughts, but biology itself, the cognition, awareness, not to mention the genetically selecting for stupid people, weeding out all the people drawn to divinity and aggression via constant brother wars out of the genepool while jews breed unopposed, and the dumbest, poorest people breed en masse

>>519758371
just eat some mushrooms

>>519758371
May I add. If you're a white American, then you can no doubt trace your origins back to Europe. White Americans are spiritually and physically European and nothing can change that. Sure, you can consider American identity as something different, but in actuality it's something placed "on top" of your European roots. You are allowed to be proud of your ancestors who became a great part of European peoples who conquered an almost entire continent for themselves.