If "god" is allknowing, you have no free will as he knows the one true future that will happen. If "god" is not allknowing, he isn't a god and the bible lied.
>>519765564False dichotomyYou have free will under God's sovereignty, not over
>>519765564Is it free will or is it that you are alone with no body to stop you (bar ones bodily limitations like dying in a void)
>>519765564consider: the future doesn’t exist
>>519765685Not what the bible said. Jesus told Juday that he has no free will and he WILL betray him.
>>519765564abrahamic retards believe in millennia old kike mythology, you really think you can reach them with logic kek
>>519765564From a religious perspective, the assertion that human free will and the concept of an independent self are illusory rests on the foundational belief in the absolute sovereignty of God or ultimate reality. If God is understood as omnipotent and omniscient—as in Christianity, Islam, and other theistic traditions—His will must necessarily encompass all events, including human actions. Scriptures such as Ephesians 1:11 (“He works out everything in conformity with His will”) and the Quranic principle of qadar (divine decree, as in 54:49: “We have created all things in due measure”) frame human existence as inherently subject to divine orchestration. In Calvinist theology, predestination negates the idea of autonomous choice, arguing that salvation is predetermined by God’s will alone (Romans 9:16), while Islamic occasionalism posits that even apparent human agency is ultimately an expression of divine causality. These doctrines suggest that free will, as commonly conceived, is a limited and human-centric illusion, akin to characters in a novel who “choose” paths scripted by an author. Eastern traditions deepen this critique: Hinduism’s maya describes the material world—and by extension, individuality—as a veil obscuring the unity of Brahman, while Buddhism’s anatta (no-self) dissolves the notion of a permanent, independent identity altogether. The self, in these frameworks, is either a transient construct (as in Buddhism) or a fragmented reflection of the divine (as in Sufism’s fana, the annihilation of the ego to realize oneness with God). Thus, to claim autonomy or a separate self is to misunderstand reality: every thought, action, and identity emerges from and returns to divine will, rendering free will and the self mere shadows cast by the light of ultimate truth.
Free will is not biblical, it's something christian apologists made up because they couldn't handle the truth of God being both good and evil. He already knew everything you'd do before you were born.
>>519765564Which god?
>>519765564>he knows the one true future that will happenThat's not the same as preventing people from making choices you fucking melonhead.
>>519766210Nobody is making any choices if he knows the future.
>>519765564God is all knowing, and you are purposefully made to be a retard to give the illusion of freewill.
>slavnigger has his first existential thoughtsDamn you faggots are evolving must be german rape sperms working.
>>519766262God damn you are dumb. Just because HE knows doesn't mean he made the choices for you. He did not interfere with your ability to make that choice in any way.
>>519765564Doesn’t matter because you’re not God. While our free will is an illusion to God, for you it’s very real. If you were truly intelligent, you’d properly realize you’re playing a rigged game and act accordingly. Most won’t, because most people are retarded.
>>519766341No choices when there is only one, fixed, determined future known to god since before you were born. Choice by definition requires that you can pick more than one option.
>>519766411It matters, if an all knowing god exists, the future is fully determined by him existing. His knowledge destroys free will. If he knows, the future already exists and can't change.
>>519765564Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideology:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_RevolutionChristianity has always been a racist religion:>"Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race chosen and beloved [...]">"the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God [...]"- https://www2.cbn.com/article/church/pope-urban-iis-speech-calling-first-crusadeThe racist and anti-semitic Confederates have always been Christian.The National Socialists used the Celtic cross and gave out iron cross medals for bravery. The white term for "swastika" is hakenkreuz, meaning hooked cross.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HakenkreuzbannerHere's a growing list of Christian political commentators who are racist and anti-semitic:- https://rentry.org/Deus_VultFeel free to reply to this post with others.Educate boomers irl. If you don't preach to them, the anti-Christian kikes will:- https://news.antiwar.com/2025/10/06/israel-to-spend-up-to-4-1-million-in-propaganda-campaign-targeting-american-christians/israeli nationalism ("zionism") is a heresy:- https://youtu.be/GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s- https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-AThe "holocaust" (burnt offering) is a lie made up by kikes, both soviet and freemason:- https://rumble.com/c/ScriptureandTraditionFrJM/videosBoycott israeli products:- https://bdsmovement.netCommon glownigger talking points:>"jesus is a kike"The word "kike" comes from "kikel", which means circle. The kikes hate the cross so much, they would sign documents with a circle, hence the nickname.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign>"off topic"Reminder the pope is the monarch of a country. In fact in many white nations there is no separation between church and state.
>>519766587If "right-wing" means sucking off Jews than I'm not "right-wing"
>>519766503You’re not even really a human being. You’re just temporarily experiencing what it is to live in a reality where God’s existence is uncertain. But what does it really matter, you’re still going to behave as if you are the ego you’ve constructed.
>>519766684Nothing exists outside of my brain, faggot.
>>519765564Patterns are everything.Patterns say people who talk like you are bad at war.
>>519766714Exactly.
>>519765564Can "god" create a dildo so big it won't fit in his ass? If he can't, he's not an omnipotent god and the bible lied
>>519766775I don't like fags. Your statistics are fake.
>>519767126>If trend how come instanceSaid every woman, leftist, and other retard in history.
>>519767173Pew research is not a respected source. It's government propaganda.
>>519765564If we don't have freewill and God controls our actions, then why do niggers be niggin all da time?
>>519765564>knowing is the same as doingkindergarten tantrum logic
>>519765564The amount of people trying to logically argue some Sand Nigger Desert tale of some slut claiming to be a virgin is crazy. Retards the lot of you.
>>519765564So if AI, given enough data can predict someone's choices and moves, that person no longer has free will?
>>519767471Predicting isn't knowing.
>>519765623>You have free will under God's sovereigntyNice contradiction
>>519766341Who was it that set creation in motion with full knowledge of every outcome it would lead to, you fucking larping heretic? "People" like you who pretend to believe in something but only feed your fragile faggot egos should be burned alive.
>>519765564You understand that casuality is an invention of the Almighty as well? 2+2 equaling 4 is because He set it to be so. Once you understand that the infinite is not limited by paradox, you can understand simple conundrums like "free will vs God's omniscience" or the "can God create a boulder so big He cannot lift it?"
>>519767725>Once you understand that the infinite is not limited by paradox,Gooblygook nonsense. No one understands "infinite" as no one had ever experienced it
>>519767725>the infinite is not limited by paradoxHis Jews died because their enemies had iron chariots.
>>519767471It would have to know everything and predict everyone's actions, but yes, if a hyper-advanced AI could do that, it would prove that no such thing as free will exists. Outside of faggot modernity though, every developed culture has understood that everything happens according to causality, see >>519766083
>>519765564God is omnipotent and your silly human logical conundrum cannot account for his law breaking miraculous activity. How did Jesus feed the masses when clearly there weren’t enough to go ‘round? Do you really believe a Creator capable of creating the cosmos and us in all its complexities has any requirement to adhere to your merely human fallible logic? If your puny Polish mind cannae fathom, imagine he grants you free will (even to talk shit on here) and yet knows your choice whenever he so chooses akin to the particle slit experiment. It’s not difficult to find ways around your dumb ancient and irrelevant logical falsified. Fuck I hate when low IQ niggers try to talk about the Divine. You are a fucking bovine.
>>519765564>If "god" is allknowing,He isn't. Read the Torah
>>519767996Are you telling me that your god was too retarded to speak for himself clearly in his own bible? What is the source of your knowledge outside of the bible?
>>519765564The two conditions are not mutually exclusive. Think of time like a soap bubble, and you are like an ant crawling on the surface of this bubble. Now think of a higher entity observing this bubble and this ant. That higher entity can see the entirety of the bubble and can see where the ant is headed, but the ant has a different perspective that is more linear. Not a perfect analogy perhaps, but basically, time is a closed loop to a higher dimension. And all things always exist as long as this loop continues to exist, and all things were decided at the creation of this loop. That moment of creating the soap bubble created all things in that moment.As for why perhaps one can view time as a closed loop: if you take a line and join the ends, you've formed a circle. So you've stepped up to two dimensions. If you take that flat circle and curl it up and join it all together, you'll end up with some three dimensional shape. If you then view time as a dimension, you should also be able to join the ends of the plane of time and end up with some eternal shape that exists in the dimension above the time plane. I'm massacring this explanation, but heck, I was a literature major, so don't sue me.
>>519767996>How did Jesus feed the masses when clearly there weren’t enough to go ‘round?The same way the cow jumped over the moon
>>519768074Torah is not canon. The bible was released later and it was the word of god, no?
>>519768087>Think of time like a soap bubbleStopped reading here. If he KNOWS, there is no choice.
>>519768080Nobody needs the Bible to talk about the divine. You’re just a butthurt Polish fag who hates Catholicism because you want to be counter culture. God is talked about across the globe in every society throughout all time. Only the mentally handicapped fail to see how obvious it is that Divinity is real.
>>519768224>Nobody needs the Bible to talk about the divine.Huh? So you are into fantasy lies?
