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Homesteading is based. Drop out of the Jewish slave system and start a homestead like your forefathers. If you can swing a hammer, you can build a small cabin. A complete solar setup for a small family is under $6k now if you DIY it.
>wahhh I can't afford a house
Let me guess: You need more.
>>519763807
>post thread about homesteading and building your own cabin to escape the Jew rat race
>zoomers crawl out of the woodwork to whine and cry and talk about how it's impossible
>"Ummmmm how would you even get food? You really expect to grow everything???"
literally go into town and get some from walmart once a month. wow so fuckin hard. retards
>">no power >no water >die of dysentery"
solar is cheap and reliable. water can be done via shallow well, rainwater collection, or deep well (the latter being the most expensive)

Why are normalfags like this?
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Some chinesium inverters go for under $200 now
4x 12V 200ah lifepo4 batteries will be maybe another 1000-1500?
550W monocrystal panels are 150ish? Get, say 12.
$150 on wires and connectors
$150 on materials for frames

Total:
$3800 on a system that
>peaks at 6.6kwt (actual output depends on time of year and position but if you get 1/4 of that for 6 hours you're all charged)
>has the capacity of 9.6kwth which is enough to keep the lights and fridge running for 24 hours without any light whatsoever
Increase standby time for shtf scenarios by getting more panels, more batteries or a small gas generator
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>>519796332
1. No pussy
2. Hours long trips to go pick up supplies
3. No pussy
4. Constant chores and upkeep
5. No pussy
6. No ability to go out and do stuff on a whim
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>>519796332
I will do this when i can afford some land, fuck this jew system
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>>519796332
Then you die in a fire for thinking you can manage your electrical needs without a professional.
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>>519798041
>You have to live as a bugman in a city to get pussy
???
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>>519798041
>Not inviting the cute cashier chick to escape from her wagie life for a weekend when you are doing your hours long supply run

Lol get fucked faggot. I go into town like once or twice a week and that is more than enough for me.

>Chores and upkeep
Do you not do this? What kind of cheese stained loser are you? If anything chores and upkeep are easier because I have more space to do things.

>do stuff on a whim
Lol, yeah my neighbor was doing figure 8s in his sport plane yesterday because he was bored, pretty whimsical.
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>>519798652
>Then you die in a fire for thinking you can manage your electrical needs without a professional.
Do you faggots do literally NOTHING for yourself? A solar system is like 5 cables and a box, it's almost impossible to fuck it up unless you intentionally splice wires in the wrong spots. Anyone who isn't a nigger can do it with youtube and a little free time.
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>>519798743
No anon electricians are ordained from birth, selected from the clan of professionals. Also absolutely NONE of them live in rural areas or would ever venture out there.
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>>519798652
>>519798743
>>519798704
I have some boomers in my family who are still alive somehow and they have this slave mentality of "you need a professional" to the point where they will snicker and laugh when I DIY things in front of them, as though doing so is truly that preposterous. I remember I changed my oil in the driveway in front of them one time and they stood there watching like it was some kind of event, making comments along the way, seemingly going through an entire range of emotions.

Really embarrassing
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cool thread. the big hurdle is getting land with permits to build on, innit....wanna get far away from cities and nigs as possible. don't even care about electricity.
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>>519798949
The thing is that these are mostly plug-and-play today. You don't necessarily need to wire up your entire home immediately; you can get one of the various lifepo4 power stations, run your panels to it, and run your appliances and whatever off of those. Some of them even have built-in inverters. You can break it down further with DIY if you want to save money, but even the good ones aren't that expensive and will quickly pay themselves off in terms of benefits.

You literally just plug them in.
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>>519799032
Once you start looking for cheap land, call the people selling it, even if you don't have the money yet. The amount of people who can imagine living life without all the goytoys is surprisingly low, and many real estate companies are sitting on a bunch of this shit. You can get low payments and pay it off surprisingly quickly and once you are in the area and start talking to people, they will show you some tricks and Bubba down the road may own a construction company that will do shit for cheap if you are good in his book. Honestly in life so many of our dreams will meet us half way if we show interest and open our mouthes.
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>>519799032
>the big hurdle is getting land with permits to build on, innit....wanna get far away from cities and nigs as possible.
Search for "unrestricted land". You generally want something in an area without zoning laws, which exist.
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>>519799032
I sell you my Midwest spot for 85k. I'm ready to walk
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>>519799829
>I'm ready to walk
Why?
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>>519799125
It's futile anon, people will look for any excuse not to do something if the propaganda wizards have deemed it not en vogue. I literally have a lifetime supply of safety razors and everyone I know stares in awe when the see me shaving with a double edge because it is seen as some arcane wisdom and dangerous. I tell them the benefits and describe the learning curve.

One thing I have learned is 90% of people are terrified of learning curves. Well keep letting Gillette rape you because "it takes 20 minutes to shave with a DE!"
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>>519799976
>mfw I have been using a cheap safety razor for almost 20 years at this point
god I'm getting old
but you wouldn't know it from this smooth jawline that's for sure
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>>519799976
>arcane wisdom and dangerous
Maybe they're thinking of straight razors. I'm not that advanced yet, kek
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>>519800369
No anon I mean someone will see me shaving for whatever reason(hook up, friend slept over) and they just assume because my razor is all metal and you can hear it cutting(unlike a cuck plastic POS) they just assume I'm Edward Scissorhands and not some dude who watched a YouTube video about it.
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>>519800689
That's pretty funny. I haven't had that experience, although my last couple of girlfriends did try to use my razor on their legs without asking and cut the shit out of themselves somehow.
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>>519801166
I wonder if he built the whole thing himself. It looks pretty good. I bet he would've learned how to from reading a book at an actual library, like some kind of psychopath...
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>>519796332
You wouldn't feel the impulse to run and hide if you had something worth striving for - like the well-being of the White People and the revival of White Society.
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>>519801893
>like the well-being of the White People and the revival of White Society.
They don't want to be saved, bro. "White people" are committing suicide and it's not my problem. Zoomers don't even see their culture as black worship and will actively cancel you if you try to lead them to a pro-white position on anything. It's over.
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>>519801300
Didnt he built it with his brother?
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>>519802306
>Didnt he built it with his brother?
I've only ever heard it described as a "crudely hand-built cabin"
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>>519802293
In my view this is an overgeneralized stereotype that doesn't account for many whites who are concerned but remain quiet due to persecution and repression, as you noted. They would do something if an ethical low-risk means were provided. This is the function of Theus.
The rest could be considered selective bottleneck left-behinds.
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>>519803216
I was into white nationalism (2.0) for many years and all I found were losers and feds. There's nothing more to it. When people decide that they want to be saved, I will happily help them along. Until then, they get what they deserve.
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>>519803374
Theus is primarily a social undertaking, rather than political or military - social clubs, mutual aid societies, group recreation, identity expression, etc.

I'm not familiar with WN history. What distinguishes 1.0 from 2.0?
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>>519798652
You're not trying to wire a power plant, Pedro. Do some research and have a healthy amount of respect for the angry pixies in the copper, and you can learn how to do basic electrical work without barbecuing your family.
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I got a cuckshed. Last month got it connected to a well and lagoon. Kind of cold and rainy but if I can get it insulated it should be ready to move into late November for kind of a glamping feel.
Everything either takes twice as long as planned, or costs twice what was planned.
Whats a realistic idea for climbing the difficulty curve? Does it ever get easier or is it just accumulation of momentum from getting infrastructure built? The amount of learning and fine tuning seems infinite. I suspect most people eventually transition to a maintenance mode. Established garden, sheds and shops, barn, routine settled, no more needs can be identified. Any upgrades or reinventing the wheel results in extremely modest or diminishing returns so instead they relax or pick a focus like breeding for blue eggs or something small and specialized.
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>>519804008
>You're not trying to wire a power plant, Pedro
lmao
the solar panels literally just plug into this, it's not any harder than charging your smartphone
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>>519804892
>lagoon
That's hardcore. How is it?
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>>519796332
I'm trying to figure out if this is AI generated, because the back-right part of the foundation does not make sense to me
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>>519796332
Homesteading is a meme and you would not be able to live comfortably doing it without Amazon and Home Depot.
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>>519805338
>you would not be able to live comfortably doing it without Amazon and Home Depot.
uh ok? and if you tie one arm behind your back it's also hard to do comfortably, what is your point, retard? how does that make it a "meme"?
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>>519805718
My point is, if you are still reliant on the system you are fucking homesteading retard you are only larping.


Actual homestead is super difficult to pull off and you'll be living like an actual third worlder or medieval peasant if you tried it.
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>>519796332
Not to sound like a complete faggot, but do any anons know about the Tesla houses? They’re like &15k each. Or maybe someone knows another less-fake-and-gay version? I have a little money to buy some land and sink a well, but I figured a pre-fab house would speed up my escape.
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>>519805822
>My point is, if you are still reliant on the system you are fucking homesteading retard you are only larping.
>*pushes up glasses* ackshually you technically have to pay $10 in (homestead exempted) property tax sooo uh you don't really own anything Chud, therefore eat the bugs and be happy
No, kill yourself, retard. Go be a bucketcrab somewhere else, ineffectual pussy.
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>>519805985
>but do any anons know about the Tesla houses? They’re like &15k each
that was an AI social media spam meme, it wasn't real
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>>519806063
You will DIE without HomeDepot, Lowe's and Amazon, you are not a "homesteader" you're a rich dickhole larping as a pioneer
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>>519805145
I'm not hardcore enough to take a mattock to the ground. Just paid like $800 altogether for a guy to dig with backhoe and then placed the pipes. Stupid hiccups like always, bought up all the supply one place had so had to find a second store for rest of pipe, and naturally second store charged more. It is better than septic because no need for permits, inspection, or leach field. There's just a shitpond out of sight past the treeline. Doesn't smell bad.
Learned from talking to others not to do graywater seperate, send everything to the lagoon. One person had just the toilet connected and it eventually clogged. Pita to fix. Running the shower down same pipe seems to have helped with flow and fully clearing stuff.
Caveat is you have to build the lagoon yourself. If you pay for someone to do everything then you're subject to the permits and all that bullshit. Also costs more if you pay for the stuff you could have reasonably done yourself.
>>519805822
Peasant life sounds better in every way than being in city or suburb. It's a matter of degrees. If you have your own house, water, power, wood, food, gas, etc., it could be argued you are less reliant on the system than if you lived in section eight in orange mound with food stamps.
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>>519796332
>sorry goy, but we didn't give you a permit to build on your own land
>break that cabin down, or we will fine you for refusing the order
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>>519806207
peasants don't have access to clean water, power, food and gas, otherwise they wouldnt be peasants
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>>519806160
>posted by the guy who just ordered doordash to his shitty apartment and will never be able to afford a house
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>>519806229
You're joking, but there have been people literally killed or thrown in prison for doing this
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>>519806309
Im pretending to be a "homesteader" while doing any of that shit though
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>>519806301
>peasants don't have access to clean water, power, food and gas, otherwise they wouldnt be peasants
Clean water is available in most of the US in the form of rainwater. Over two third of the country gets enough rain over a year to sustain a family of four indefinitely. And that's only if you can't dig a shallow well, which you can in many places. Even if that doesn't work, a traditional well isn't always cost prohibitive, and something like 40% of Americans rely on those. There's no reason you need municipal water.
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>>519806339
no, i'm not joking anon
i think a loophole, if you want to call it that way, is to put a trailor on your land
non-permanent stuff is easier to live in, admin wise
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>>519806427
No, you're just here to poopoo the idea because you are a pathetic loser who feels bad about being unable to do anything on your own. You have nothing to add to this conversation other than >wahhhh it won't work, and your logic is infantile. Nobody said you couldn't go to hardware stores or order things online. This isn't some kind of Mennonite/Bear Grylls larp thread. Go away, retard
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>>519806474
>Clean water is available in most of the US in the form of rainwater.
rain water isn't clean you jackass
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>>519796332
Was hoping to save up for land in the desert, but full self sustainability in that kind of environment is hard. It'd be easier if I moved somewhere not as densely populated (mid atlantic region) and I guess still green. I hear Arkansas, South Carolina, Missouri, etc have good land. I'll just have to have a marketable skill, I'm kind of retarded. Logistically, if I could live in the Nevada boonies I'd be set.
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>>519796332
Based.
>>519798041
>1. No pussy
Most men aren't getting any, anyway
>2. Hours long trips to go pick up supplies
That means hours away from the walking dead. Worth it.
>4. Constant chores and upkeep
Yeah, this is what happens when you own something.
>6. No ability to go out and do stuff on a whim
Out, is outside your door, and there's plenty of stuff to do on planet Earth.
Or do you mean, walking in a building, overpaying for alcohol, and watching TV, wasting your time with other people who also have nothing better to do?
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>>519806537
>>519806339
Many areas of the US exempt buildings under 20'x20' or 12'x10'. Furthermore, impermanent buildings (which can be floating foundation or anything on a frame/wheels) are also generally exempted. Pretty much anywhere that will let you camp on your own land indefinitely will also allow you to build things with only some minor considerations. There are plenty of areas with 'grey' laws as well which are essentially tolerant of DIY and only really want to ensure you won't kill anyone with shoddy construction. There's a whole spectrum. It's not impossible by any stretch.
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>>519806550
>rain water isn't clean you jackass
Are you here to argue literally every point? For what purpose, fucktard? Of course you use a first flush system in conjunction with a typical 3 point filtration system, and then use an RO system in your dwelling, or just a Berkey like most people nowadays. It's not complicated. Are you 15? Go be a Jew slave somewhere else.
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>>519806100
Well, I guess I’m retarded.
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>>519796648
Just start with 48v, save on wiring and not wasting time on balancing each battery. Plus get the inverter and charge controller in one, the better ones can run extra units in parellel. diysolarforum has plenty of people that call out crap equipment
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>>519806474
for about ten years, nowhere on earth rainwater is safe to drink
but if you have a hill or something like that, you could build a bio filter out of five to seven tanks, filled with fish, gravel and plants
then only use bio degradable soaps and cleaning stuff, have a shallow UV-tank and presto, you are able to produce drink water
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>>519806802
You don't have to do all of this schizo shit, and rainwater is used in many places on Earth. Tons of people in Australia rely on it completely for their water, and many homesteaders in the US do this. Almost half of America outside of major cities relies on wells, too, which are not much cleaner depending on the depth. Everything has trade-offs. You really think filtered rainwater is less healthy than fluoridated municipal water?
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>>519806802
see
>>519806758

There are standard commercial systems available for this, and you can also just DIY. Filters are quite simple and include ceramic and UV. A simple whole house filtration system is basically some PVC pipes in the correct configuration with 3 sets of filters, which you can buy at any major chain hardware store (Home Depot here). Pic related doesn't show a full filtration system but does show the first flush valve I mentioned.
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>>519806941
no? i told you what to do with rain water to make it drinkable
you seem to think that i want to defeat you in any way
>>519807092
looks pretty much like the first tank in the cleansing system
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>>519796648
this is pretty much all you need along with a set of cheap panels
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>>519807287
>no? i told you what to do with rain water to make it drinkable
Your suggestions are strange and esoteric, there are common traditional ways to do this and they are simple and mainstream enough for components to be sold for $20 at Home Depot.
>looks pretty much like the first tank in the cleansing system
A lot of people like reverse osmosis systems which I think are ideal, but I think a Berkey-style filter is sufficient for most things, even if you're only using a first flush diverter otherwise. I'm skeptical about the efficacy of UV.
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>>519806779
I don't understand why someone hasn't done something like that to be honest. Basically make a reinforced version of a work camp trailer and make it look nice and modern with some screens, LEDs, Ikea style interior and presto, it's a "cheap house" which modern normalfags won't be ashamed to live in
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>>519805985
People often finance sheds, then they get repossessed. I got a 12x36' for just under $10k, delivery included. Pretty bare bones, stick build with no insulation or interior walls. Free toilet and sink that weren't installed were tossed in as freebies. Partially lofted too.
$15k is a tight budget but shipping container meme has caught on enough you have companies like Insofast and containernut that make it pretty much plug and play. Containers are like $2-3k and delivery might be another $1-2k. Plug and play comes at a premium but it saves thinking time. Get it off the ground somehow and fix condensation, that's half the fight. Roof can be freestanding.
Interior finish is crap but you could live in an old camper until something better is figured out, at least it gets you onto your land and allows practice fixing stuff when it breaks.
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>>519807618
I spent some time pricing out shipping containers and I decided a traditional stick frame building is just more cost effective. You really aren't getting anything out of a shipping container that you need; in the end you have to do so much work on it that you might as well start fresh. I feel like that's just a meme, something people latched on to due to the fad stemming from the concept being nice but not very practical.

I've heard of people doing the repo'd shed thing but it's hard to find information about that. 12x36' is fucking huge for a "shed", too. How do you find these deals?
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>>519796332
My family would not allow it.
>>519796648
>small gas generator
Do biogas harvesting if you want to go the gas route.
>>519798041
skill issue on all parts
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>>519796332
Why would you build this on a hill?
Also simply deporting foreigners would result in affordable housing.
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>>519808148
>Also simply deporting foreigners would result in affordable housing.
but then you have to live with fags and other scum
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>>519796332
Unfortunately I am $80k in debt and pretty broken physically, emotionally, and financially and my mental will probably go too in a few years so homesteading will be a very unlikely outcome for me.
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>>519798652
Wiring is stupid easy and ridiculously hard to fuck up so bad that you start a fire. 45 minutes on Youtube would teach you more than you need to know if you are just concerned with having a safe, functional electrical set up, and aren’t worried about following electrical code to a T(you really dont need to in a lot of cases)
>t. Electrician
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>>519808269
>and my mental will probably go too in a few years so homesteading will be a very unlikely outcome for me.
A lot of people who 'homestead' (though they might not call it that) are weird, eccentric people. If you ever get into these communities, you're liable to meet a number of people calling the US "Babylon" lmao. It's not only for rich influencers on YouTube.
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>>519804008
Chris Boden
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>>519796332
>Why are normalfags like this?
When did we start giving a fuck about normalfags? Most of us are here because we can't stand their daily drivel ... how about don't worry about what they "think" and move along?
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>>519808530
What are your top three tips for not starting a housefire with DIY electrical work?
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>>519808862
>>Why are normalfags like this?
>When did we start giving a fuck about normalfags?
most of this board is normalfags now. hell, most of the people who aren't either teenagers or minorities are literal facebook boomers from 2016
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>>519796332
Oh hey you saved the post; was a decent enough thread but as it often happens with these on this board it didn't get enough interest and was slid.
One would think that those obsessed with happenings would also at least consider their plans for shtf.

Re: gas generator, meant something along the lines of those small petrol inverter ones, e.g. there's a Honda model that outputs 2.2kwt , costs 1100ish. I hear these are quieter than the old-school petrol generators and also produce a cleaner sine, increasing the odds your solar inverter can use it to charge the batteries. Cheap models are apparently more picky.
I've an old petrol generator and a cheap chink inverter but haven't had the opportunity to test whether the generator's output would be accepted. Maybe next time there's a major storm in the area.
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>>519809578
>there's a Honda model that outputs 2.2kwt , costs 1100ish. I hear these are quieter than the old-school petrol generators and also produce a cleaner sine, increasing the odds your solar inverter can use it to charge the batteries. Cheap models are apparently more picky.
yeah literally called the honda 1100, you can find one for about $1k used and they're very reliable. They are strictly for running your power tools and emergency situations though.
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>>519806474
I have seen guys on YouTube sink their own wells. It doesn't look too difficult but the groundwater is probably not potable. Is a filtration system practical? Reverse osmosis systems are inexpensive.
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>>519810037
You can just use a standard European 3/5 point filtration system, there are many guides for DIY whole house filters on youtube if you don't want to buy a commercial system. Undersink reverse osmosis is about $200-500, and a gravity filter using carbon rods is about $200 including the filters.

Shallow wells can be safe and I would consider them safer than rainwater before filtration, but it depends on your local area. Lead mining was a major industry around here in the 1900's, so much of our shallow water is contaminated with lead. That's not true in most places, however, and if you live somewhere that has natural springs, you can sometimes just drink right out of those, or plant a shallow well right in one.

Most water can be made about as potable as any other water with a home filtration system. There really is no magic to it and municipal water is actually fucking disgusting.
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>>519796332
jews will be coming after homesteaders soon.
CBDC will fuck even more of us.
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>>519810037
Afaik anything that comes through RO should be potable. It's just that if the water that arrives at it is dirty to begin with, the membrane gets clogged up fast. I've a well, then 3 BB20 filters (large particles, smaller particles, even smaller particles+softening) which produces clean enough water to wash the dishes and oneself without getting sick, at least. For drinking water there's a system you put under sink, with varied number of filters, culminating in RO. Mine has 7 iirc. Change them every 2-3 years so far.


Still collect rainwater for the garden/greenhouse.
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>>519796332
I live in a 14 x 14 cabin on 30 acres in the desert. There are obviously ups and downs to homesteading so its all a matter of what you enjoy and what you can live and live without.
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>>519810431
And they'll get shot.
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>>519798652
12v boyo
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Been there, done it, happy I have a real house now where I shit on a toilet instead of a hole in the ground and have hot running water. The big lessons you get doing it are what you actually NEED, how to do shit yourself (and how difficult it is or isn't). Generally being self reliant when practical and learning to live within your means has been useful in me supporting a comfortable life.
Of course, most posters here are bots, jeets, and the absolute dregs of humanity that are just lazy, stupid and demoralized to the point where they won't even consider leaving their goon cave and attempting to do something in real life.
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The land, where will they allow you to do whatever the fuck you want? The incentives don't really matter if you can be destroyed with a piece of paper
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>>519812186
>and have hot running water
you can power a tankless water heater anywhere on the planet bro
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>>519811431
>I live in a 14 x 14 cabin on 30 acres in the desert
based
are you hooked into the grid?
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>>519806160
Dude you do know people traded 1000s of years before today don't you? I guess next you will say because I don't have a factory to make all of the tools I use, im a phoney. The point isn't to be autistic about your needs, but to slowly introduce things that will allow you to cut costs and to hedge against shortages. Think about how often urbanites have to deal with people. If I wanted to I could leave my home maybe 10 times a year and be just fine. Or I could wander the city for a few weeks and then call it quits and not worry because my Cost of Living is so cheap I am flexible. The point is increased freedom.
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>>519796332
Impossible in the UK, i'd have to move country
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>>519813435
NO ONE is going to trade anything with you. You need MONEY.

You dumb fool.

MONEY. Or you are dead- you are all god damn DEAD.
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>Hey everyone let's run even further from the centers of power and spread out even more. We'll just give up more and more ground, and scatter further and further apart, and then eventually we'll win!
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>>519812383
>you can power a tankless water heater anywhere
Yeah, and just carry water up from the stream to it. Or boil water on the wood stove, or just buy a real house with a 50 gallon heat pump ultra efficient water heater.
Do what you like or what your budget and space permits.
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>>519813853
>just stay in the dying cities and wait for some nigger to shiv you when he doesn't get his food stamps!!!
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>>519813686
You are a retard.

If I go to a farmers market and sell some fruit, they TRADE me money for my fruit. I then take that money and go to home depot and TRADE them money for finished goods. The money is just the Placeholder for what gold and silver used to be, that has been exploited by an (((unsavory))) element.

Moral of the story is the only place on earth that is truly self sufficient in the strictest sense of the word is Sentinel Island. We are just suggesting an alternative to consumerism, you still have to consume at times but you can do it more on your own terms.
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>>519798652
>a fucking mexican of all people lecturing anyone on how to run electrical
Cunt, I've seen how you faggots do "la luz" down there and it's no wonder you're afraid of electrical fires. Now go crawl back in your mother's piss flaps and get aborted.
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>>519814056
>Just run to the dying countryside and wait for some nigger to run your state government and fill out the ranks of your National Guard, police forces and military
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>>519796332
Just buy land and park a trailer on it. You can build a trailer for cheap and way better quality that the glued and stapled particleboard shit they sell.
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This is my backyard, if I wanted to go sit on that table naked slathered in honey and wait for a bear to maul me I could and the bear would show up before cops would guaranteed.
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>>519813686
my neighbors used to give me free eggs because they made too many, it's not that deep
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>>519814334
Tell us about the hustle and bustle of the big city and how you're making power moves there to shake up national politics.
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>>519813878
>Yeah, and just carry water up from the stream to it
That's doable, but you can also just build a water tower and put a cheap electric pump in your tank so it flows downhill to your property.
>or just buy a real house with a 50 gallon heat pump ultra efficient water heater.
"real house" being a euphemism for something a bunch of Mexicans slapped together in 3 months in a suburb and sold by a developer for $300k? Why can't you put a water heater in a cabin in your view?
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>>519798967
I know that kind of boomer. The most worthless kind.
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>>519813466
This. Everything is either

>already bought and impossibly expensive unless you want a small chewed up plot next to some garage in a shady crowded area for £80k
>has cameras every where
>too many people
>overgrown, not in use but will never be for sale

You have to be really well off but even then you're still stuck in this giant nanny daycare sharing space with other retards. Keep in mind, every week we get "new arrivals" from other tribes.
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>>519815532
>>519813466
You guys don't have rural land available there? I know your nanny state is much worse than ours. America isn't full, come to America!
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I know a guy who's doing this. He's rich, though, and a licensed contractor. He's going all out and making his place a concrete fortress. I sometimes help him build it. It'll be a pretty sweet set-up once it's finished.
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>>519815532
Spain has abandoned villages you can get for 50,000 pounds.
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>>519816228
concrete is hard as fuck to work with without a lot of help in my experience, shit is truly back breaking
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>>519796332
A bunch of swedes left Sweden in like the 1800s and founded a colony in Maine that was self sustaining after two years.

Here is their story. They meticulously documented everything. My family was part of it.

https://ia600202.us.archive.org/2/items/storyofnewsweden00este/storyofnewsweden00este_bw.pdf
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>>519798652
I'm white i will figure it out like I've always had to do
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>>519796332
a lot of people don't realise that the biggest obstacle to homesteading is the time it takes to learn all the skills required to be able to survive off the land.

it's not so much about money. i'm in the uk and the land is cheap.
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It’s depressing as fuck to think that freedom is an illusion.
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>>519815181
>you can also just build a water tower
Post pics of your water tower with timestamp.
>something a bunch of Mexicans slapped together in 3 months in a suburb
Because that or a shed is your only option.
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>>519796332
Why do you want other people to do it? I want to homestead, and I hope all of you live far away from me in a commie block. Fuck off were full.
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>>519796332
All that work and the first night you live there it falls off it's twigs and squishes little jimmy. Now your wife is gonna take the telluride. Should have stayed in your condo faggot.
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>>519813144
I am not. I have solar power.
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>>519817378
>Because that or a shed is your only option.
you came here to talk shit and you're posting the fox and the grapes--do you not see the irony? Those are not your only options; can you really not comprehend nuance? you can just as well install a nice water heater in pretty much anything, it doesn't require that you live in a depreciating McMansion with 2 feet between you and the neighbor. At that point it's just a giant cuckshed
>>519817446
I enjoy discussions with like-minded individuals, big part of homesteading is sharing useful tips with fellow travelers
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>>519817691
lmao I was wondering about this, I think this image might be ai-generated, otherwise I don't see how that crossmember makes sense, especially since it's sunk into the rear post
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>>519817832
Kek nooope just dog shit.
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>>519818051
I guess they're trying to mitigate sheer force, but this is such an ugly solution
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>>519818175
>>519818051
also,
>different size hurricane ties
why do all this work just to do this ghetto shit
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>>519818175
Anon... Look at the 9 different types of t brackets they used at the top instead of saddles like at the bottom. This is literally murder you in your sleep because it's windy retarded
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>>519818051
I would have made them chunkier or less distributed, but they will hold. In a place like this you aren't really supposed to bring all you chinkshit that weighs a fuckton anyway, there is no driveway or anything so it is probably a place they just go drink desu without, maybe a stove to cook some weiners.
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>>519816428
Yes, that's why I and several other people help him build it.
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>>519818516
Well I'm glad you trust it because I sure as fuck don't. It's clearly poor craftsmanship and every other place they have built is on a slab... So they literally have no idea what the fuck they were doing.... And it's on a hill. Retarded

https://timberhomesllc.com/
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>>519796648
>chinesium
what?
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>>519818229
>>519818340
at least the image sparked a little discussion
homesteading is fun
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>>519819015
Why do you have this picture... Are you the retard that built this or paid for it?
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>>519819304
I'm all for cutting corners where it makes sense, but I wouldn't do something like this, personally
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>>519817789
>live in a depreciating McMansion with 2 feet between you and the neighbor.
47 posts and not a single pic with timestamp of any of this shit you're LARPing about, but if I'm not jacking you off about how awesome your ideas are I'm in a depreciating McMansion.
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>>519809241
NTA but
1. Tighten connections properly and use wago 221s
2. Aluminum wire needs special receptacles and connectors
3. GFCI all circuits
not an electrician btw
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>>519798652
>Mexican Standards
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>>519796332
spend more money than i have ever seen in my life to live worse than a prisoner
not trying to be funny but what is the appeal of living green hell shack style?
why would anyone want this?
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>>519807491
>Berkey-style filter
So these filters turned out to be chink made toxic shit that poison you, hope you're not seriously still using these. They're a stillwater cesspool too. If you don't want plastic to ever touch your water get a stainless steel milk container (a couple 4-5gal ones so they're easy to carry) and fill them at the reverse osmosis stations in front of grocery stores. Primo is a good one that prides itself on maintaining their filters well. It's 50 cents a gallon and you don't have to maintain your own filters, which would be like $300 every 3 months if you actually changed them on time. Plus, again, those reverse osmosis filters you buy online are fake chink garbage that don't work. Sorry everything is a scam.



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