lolso how long until their collapse?they've been losing terretory for since the 1940s, shrinking like the byzantine empirenow they are failing to conquest land, and have no where to go. their economy is collpasingChina pretends to be their friend, but they have claims on lands which russia have, and historically have not been friends to russia.
Did you post this December 2022 and it just finally appeared?
>>519809134>so how long until their collapse?There's nothing to collapse. Those people survived through the 90sFrom their point of view everything that could've collapsed already collapsed. Can't collapse any further.
>>519809298yes it canthey've put themselves in a cinch where their economy is shrinking. america is losing world power status, and chinese influence over europe is growing.russia is no friend to china, and china likewise. read a history book if you think the chinese and the russians have ever been close friends.
>>519809298This. The spirit of revolution is utterly dead in Russia now. Anyone who would revolt has left the country long ago. Putin knows this and feels secure on the throne because he rules a slave race. He's only concerned about muslims revolting, not broken ethnic russians.
>>519809134about two more weeks. give or take
>>519809411oh and to add on top of this. the islamic world, aka. the ottoman empire have been STRONG enemies to russa since day one. they do not accept their bullshit (Turkey blew their jets out of their airspace immidiately) the onyl allies russia have are random resistance groups in africa who are fighting with bow and arrows lmao
>>519809459speaking of the spirit of revolution, imagine having 400 million guns and just letting yourselves be ruled by hostile jewish pedophiles
>>519809411Chinese are EXTRELMY friendly with people that give them great deals. No matter what they've done. MAGA has cooked the listless American culture for the last time so there's no reason to act all fucking occidental anymore.
>>519809701you have to go back, mehmet
>>519809745I would gladly become muslim to exterminate the russian pest once and for all
>>519809298>>519809459you fags just wait until Jewtin inevitably croaks.It'll be a bloodbath at the top. Jewtin did not create a north korea tier cult of personality where his successor is effectively a deity.Every single time in history, when a dictator dies, EVERYTHING falls apart immediately.
>>519809459>The spirit of revolution is utterly dead in Russia nowProbably because all the “revolutionaries” were living on your payroll and had no support from the people since the early 2010s. No one in their right mind would support an opposition that is openly sponsored by your current enemy and openly says absolutely batshit things. 90% of left-wing “politicians” took the position that “Russia must lose completely and people must suffer for choosing Putin and war”
>>519809811you can join ukrainian armed forces any time
>>5198091342 more years tranny
>>519809714i made you angry by speaking the truth>>519809879oh it will definitely be a bloodbath when he croaks, but not until then. he will die of natural causes at 150 as planned, full of child organs and still safe on the throne...as long as he keeps simping for muslims
>>519809909kek, I really triggered the memeflags
>>519809973no need, their economy will collapsethey have put themselves in a position where their only ally is china (who's only in it for the trade, not a real friendship)
>>519809811your nigger pedophile prophet got raped by jeets in his bootyhole, mehmet
>>519809134We should be helping Russia against the inevitable Chinese invasion... but here we are.
>>519810028i made you angry by speaking the truth
>>519810169the thing is that chinese people have functioning braincells, and I am able to discourse with themif you've ever played an online video game you know the state of the russian mind
>>519809134>just 2 more weeks>months>years>decades>centuriesRussia isn't going anywhere you slack jawed faggot
>>519810357russia is going to collapse.
>>519810398your house's floor is going to collapse from your mom, watch your basement
>>519810176no u
>>519810398Sure thing bucko, fuckin retard>>519810496lol
>>519810496glad to see a russian flag finally showing itself instead of using VPNswhat is your claim on ukraine? what makes it your rightful land?
>>519810496cringe
>>519809134> they've been losing terretory for since the 1940sActually they are bigger now than they were in 2000s
>>519810831I can take your queen in chess. but what does that mean if my position is absolutely terrible?
>>519809134>so how long until their collapse?Around 14 days
>>519810080This torsk is out here believing in friendships between nations lmao
>>519809134Friends? You are either someone's bitch or a master that owe the bitch. Get over your childish idea that there are *friends* in global politics.
>>519811135thee russian way of thinking truly shows itself
>>519810918It means that you really suck ass at propaganda can't even form a good argument retard
>>519811203my point is perfectly clearRussia have put themselves in a position where their ONLY ally is ChinaChina who at this very moment is deepining their economic ties with Europe, because the US has put tariffs and lost confidence due to Donald TrumpEurope who is the "enemy" of russia, because of "NATO" expansion
>>519811310No you tried to make a parallel with Byzantium which fell apart immediately because you suck at your job
>>519811401I did make a parallell with the byzantine empire, and you are foolish to think history does not repeat itselfNow tell me how it fell apart. Specifically. I am not going to do all the work in this debate.
>>519811183He's right, that's just how wold politic works.
>>519809134Thank God. Our politicians act like Russia is some kind of existential threat, and tell us we have to get involved in European shot in order to stop them. I'm glad to hear that Russia is doomed. Now we can focus on more pressing matters.
>>519809909Most revolutionaires were useful idiots like that texan guy they raped, killed and blew up, and look at Luhansk and Donesk male population, a traitor's reward is what Russia has always been good at.
>>519811613The US had no reason to enter WW2 but they did so to make sure Germany did not gain too much power.You can argue that is self-profit, I guess.His claim that you are either someone's bitch or someone's master is false. Unions did exist which are mutually beneficial agreements between nations.
>>519811871>The US had no reason to enter WW2 but they did so to make sure Germany did not gain too much power.Uh yeah okay. Japan attacked the US and 3 days later Hitler declared war on the USA.
>>519812104>Uh yeah okay. Japan attacked the US and 3 days later Hitler declared war on the USA.fair enough, I concede
I lived through the 90s in russia, what's going on right now is nowhere close to that. I remember walking up to the apartment of my commie block and seeing a dead guy laying there with bullet holes in the wall, and like that was just a fact of life. Maybe after the war ends and economics crash completely (as most of it is now held on by duma money and weapon manufacturing), and soldiers who are used to higher pay now find themselves making 20k rub again, then trouble will start. But even with that, there isn't really anything for russia to collapse into. Even the ethnic regions in siberia all have russian language/culture.Those in uzbekistan/tadjikistan/kazakhstan/etc are also still moving to russia to work despite the ongoing war, due to proximity and language alone. These people could easily work those same jobs in other countries that want such laborers in europe/korea or wherever, but they never go there due to lack of ability to apply paperwork (where in russia they just enter visa free and get a patent).
>>519809134Why is arab from Norway worried about Russia lol? Anyway, no one will attack us. We have nuclear weapons. I hope we can take with US your nuclear weapons (France and so on)I don't like the idea that it might end up in the hands of monkeys when islam becomes the dominant political power in your countries
>>519809134Russia will endure for a long time, but collapse will happen as quickly as Assad lost Syria. In case you've forgotten, Putin already blew up bridges near Moscow two years ago because his mercenaries rebelled. Prigozhin would have been president of Russia if he hadn't believed the potato president's lies.
>>519812294>Anyway, no one will attack us. We have nuclear weapons.We don't have to attack you, your economy will collapse and people will revolt. It will all ahppen naturally.
>>519809134>Russia is collapsing!!!Where have I heard this one before?
>>519812445I think your parents heard this in the 80s. They probably laughed the same way about the USSR collapsing.
>>519812401No one is gonna revolt. Every time russia has had a revolt, things didn't improve but only got worse. I remember how in the 90s after soviet collapse and "revolution" everyone was cheering about how great things will be and how USA will help. Instead, if went horribly bad, and USA just exploited the shit out of a weakened russia and treated it like a dog. People still remember those times, and no one is going to go against the gov outside of a few libshits.
>>519812550RSFSR was a part of the USSR and did not lose any land
>>519812617>No one is gonna revoltPeople will at some point revolt if their state of living becomes bad enoughThat's tradition in europe, but I guess we have some exceptions like North Korea.
>>519812401Neo-nazi pls. Every man in Russia live like boyar, like is kings! Sanction only hurt you, you will freeze to death without Russian gas and oil ;)))
>>519812933Bro have you read what went on in Russia post ww2 and the amount of people who got gulaged and the living conditions of USSR and no revolt still?
>>519809134My guess would be 2 weeks
>>519812950>Every man in Russia live like boyar, like is kings!bro, I've been to murmansk
>>519809879Give me an exemple of a country that collapsed when the leader died
>>519809134>their collapse?what does this even meanHaiti has been a shithole for literal centuries and theyre still intactdo you have some retarded fantasy of annexing their entire borders?maybe in the 14th century
>>519813279>what does this even meanBalaknization>do you have some retarded fantasy of annexing their entire borders?Russian propaganda, get off your proxy and speak to me face-to-face like man.
>>519813377There's nothing to balkanize into. The literal balkan countries that left were countries before USSR absorption. Inside russia there is no such thing, it has been so long that it's just russia.
>>519813519yup>Sakhalin & the Kuril Islands>Karelia>Dagestan & the North Caucasus>Chechnya/Ingushetia>Buryatia & Tuva>Altai Republic & Altai Krai>Primorsky & Khabarovsk Krais, Amur & Jewish Autonomous Oblast>Chukotka>Kalmykia>Tatarstan & Bashkortostan
>>519813519
>>51981368499% of these places are uninhabited frozen tundra
>>519813684>>519813758Yeah amazing retard map i keep seeing. I'm literally russian and have gone back there and been all over, it's russia and russian culture throughout.
>>519813831SO you know all those people personally, you can vouch for every single region?They're all a homogenous mass?lmao, even in my country there are differences between regions. some regions which like others less, and even spereatist movements.
>>519814027My fucking guy, you really just don't understand russia and what russia is like having existed through the empire and then communism (whos sole aim was one people one culture). It's very similar to china. Those far western frozen tundra parts of russia have very few people, and the ones that do exist there are the same culture/language/way of life as eastern russia, sans maybe moscow/saint petersburg (due to money difference/poverty, not really culture).
>>519814131Even now Georgia/Armenia/Kazakhstan and other surrounding countries next to russia continue trade and survive by proximity of russia. Without russia, they are extremely fucked too.
>>519814131I simply do not believe this.A land as vast as russia would have difficulity keeping it's culture homogeneous.Here if you go across the mountains to the village over, you enter a different culture, even a different way of speaking.
>>519814288I hope to god when this gay retard war ends you make a trip there yourself and see.
>>519809298>It can't get any worse than thisThis is Russia's official cope btw
>>519809134>so how long until their collapse?The collapse has been happening for a while now. People expect some dramatic event for some reason, rather than a bunch of boring graphs trending downwards over decades.
>>519809134russia'll ezly win ww3
>>519809134>europes and America is only 17% of the world population. They have already collapsed in turd world jeet achmed colonies.>but WHAT ABOUT RUSSIAHow about getting your shit together pathetic weaklings.
>>519809134Were you in a coma?
>>519814314Germany is a patchwork of duchies, kingdoms with different traditionsItaly is a patchwork of medieval communes, again with different cultures. The south is noticably different from the north.Don't get me started on Spain.Does not add up that Russia has managed to keep culture in each region entirely the same.
>>519809134You are delusional.
>>519813021>how longAbout 2 weeks
>>519814462we are in wwiii. It just happens that no one will use a nuke because it's a guaranteed loss scenario.
>>519810169Lol no, let them kill eachother.
>>519813758>umm actually decolonization is a good thing chud
>>519812396> Be (((Prigozhin)))> Announce a coup on tiktok, because using secrecy and confusion to your advantage is not honorobru> Shut down a couple of MoD HINDS> Get clapped> Flee to the safest place possible, Belarus> "Oh crap, forgot my hat at home"> Fly back to Moscow on your private jet> Suddenly, your plane blows up in the stratosphere> SHIIIIEEET xDD> Body, mauled by an explosion, falls down 10km> Get a closed-casket funeral in an undisclosed location> Press F> Your PMC continues to function in Africa
>>519814607Russia was a feudal empire for a long time, and communism literally made that even worse by forcing exactly one "correct' way of things with paranoia neighboors reporting neighboors type lunacy. Let's say that in your magical balkanization occurs. What happens next?Every single nation to the west of moscow/saint petersburg is completely fucked. They have no one to trade with or ways of getting resources.Then what happens?China makes a huge play and takes all of western russia. You think USA would ever allow china to gain a literal USA size worth of land/resources? A broken shitty dictator russia is infinitely better to USA than a China owned western russia.
>>519814964>China makes a huge play and takes all of western russiaChina, if they choose to do that would be surrounded by enemies.I'd rather believe that China would use soft-power and trade to slowly gain power on the territories close to them.They certainly would not get away with deecalring war upon each territory of russia and expand into siberia without pull-back from the rest of the world.(they're surrounded by nations which don't like them)
>>519815458If russia collapses as you want it to happen, then those new free lands can be claimed, as china can pull out a map and show everyone that back in 1800s those territories were Chinese and then stolen by the russian empire, and now they want them back. Of course im making a joke here as no such thing is possible since russia has nukes, and no balkanization will happen.
>>519815578>Of course im making a joke here as no such thing is possible since russia has nukes, and no balkanization will happenThe state of russia has nukes. The state is nothing without people supporting it.
>>519815678Yes in your magical world that is true. Regardless as i mentioned above, all of western russia and surrounding nations stop existing if russia "collapses", and those nations cant function as they are land locked with no trade if such an event occurs. Now, regime change is possible, but that doesnt make balkanization happen.
>>519813831Cope zigger.
>>519809298>From their point of view everything that could've collapsed already collapsed. Can't collapse any further.Is this why they are sending young men to the meat grinder instead of investing their efforts into sustainable growth of the Russian state? This is clearly some last ditch existential faggotry on their part, which signals that they think they are staving off collapse, and perhaps even getting stronger from a total cope POV.
>>519814351>it's not worse than the 90swhen in fact it's objectively much worse because millions of Russia's remaining few young men were not being pulled into a completely meaningless slaughter in the millions.from afghan, to chechnya, to georgia to ukraine. they literally can't stop being massive cunts. it's the only thing keeping their history together currently.>This is Russia's official cope btwit's utterly pathetic. and all of Russia's dead will be replaced with fucking jeets/arabs. the idiots on their (russia's) side playing into supporting this conflict deserve every bad thing coming to them and theirs, more than anyone.
I'm American, dumbass.
>>519809411Maybe instead of reading a book, you should read the news.The West has fucked up so badly with Ukraine that now Russia and China are buddies. They’ll only deepen their cooperation going forward