What is the final solution to the farmer question? These useless mothefuckers are betraying Trump. We need to put them in their place
>>519819494Someone needs to tell American farmers to stop crying for socialism and start pulling themselves up by the bootstraps. How many of them haven't cut out avocado toast from their diets yet?
>>519819494if its spics or argentinian beef im taking argentinian beef
Imagine calling useless the people who produce the food and ingredients necessary to keep your sorry troll ass alive. We truly live in unprecedented times.
There needs to be a farm worker visa of some kind but at that point, it might be cheaper to just hire legals.
Farmers are bigger welfare queens than most niggers plus they whine and cry about anything and everything.
Why isn't this shit automated?I'm starting to think farms are fake and the food we eat is just shit out of the ass of a giant alien.
>>519819494farmers are one of the few people with actual real jobs. you better respect them.
>>519819864People are just far more efficient than machines at a lot of tasks.
>>519819737You can teach any 75 iq retard to raise beef cows. American farmers aren't noble or special in any way.
>>519819494How are the wages?
>>519819494Whaever happened to supporting American industries?
>>519819737I'd be more inclined to believe it if they weren't producing for foreign markets and corn syrup.>>519819958Same as the working conditions. Inhuman.
>>519819798>There needs to be a farm worker visa of someThere's temporary worker permits already, and it won't get cheaper because they aren't subject to minimum wage here either
>>519819494What fucking crops can't be mechanically sewn/harvested in South Dakota? South Dakota primarily grows corn and basedbeans and some cereals like rye and oats. The mexicans aren't picking oats. All of that shit is mechanically sewn and mechanically harvested.
>>519819949So where are your cattle?
>>519819494>Break up big farms and give grants to smaller ones and resurrect the idea of family farms
>>519819864>Why isn't this shit automated?It was cheaper to have illegals do the work. Now that there's a massive crackdown, they will either need to pay more money, invest into better tech, shift away from hard to harvest crops, or go bust.
>>519820089Butthurt farmer detected. Cash your subsidy check this month?
>>519819494>half are illegal aliens>if deported nobody will produce foodCan't do math, will produce half the amount of food. Sell everything domestically, the half not produced cut from exports to turd worlders.
>>519819655We make good beef, you will enjoy
>>519820204Why would I get a subsidy check? So where are your cattle if it’s easy enough for a nigger to do.
>>519819494the farm workers aren't undocumented, there are all kinds of temp farm work programs for turnip picking beanersand if they arent legal the farmer should be prosecuted and they should be deported
>>519820235Also, stop "farming" bullshit not food "crops" like basedvey.
>>519819864Because cows are retarded and weight a lot you still need humans to handle them
>>519820302You seem very mad about something. Consider placing a call to the farmer mental health helpline, fren
>>519819494So they voted for Trump to keep people illegally in the country because they don't want to pay an American worker a proper wage for hard work on a farm. And this is coming from the land of the cowboys.
>>519819494The farmer is t a farmer. He’s a rural retard that thought his racism wouldn’t catch up to him. Fuck the industrialist farmer!
>>519820438Your idiocy knows no bounds
>>519819655I’m buying Argentina beef just so these MAGA faggots lose their land. Profit over people bitch!
>>519820506How are you shit poasting on 4channel right now? Shouldn't you be milking some cows or something?
>>519819494Farmers using illegal immigrants to get work done around them farm and profit of the status quo can die along with it. Family farms that support themselves on 15 acres of land and provide for themselves and they're communities need to be praised.
>>519820302A nonsense low iq argument.The barrier to entry isn't the difficulty of the job.It's the million dollar initial investment.
>>519820717>poasting>milking beef cattle
>>519819494That farmer has a fleet of decked-out Ford F-250s. And probably a pool at his "ranch house" that has all kinds of wonderful accoutrements inside, probably a movie theater.
>>519820830Go get a loan like any other business?
>Former Trump voter here.Hey, chat, is this real?
>>519820925Pretty sure I said milking some cows but I know you're low iq so I'll it slide
>>519820830A farm is used to grow crops to benefit the people. Governments have forced farmers to grow what they want on the farmers land due to demand. The goverment doesn't invest in something that it won't see a benefit from, they are benefiting at the expense of farmers, so they give them tax exemptions and cheap labour and in exchange they get to keep living like kings. which some are to stupid to see.
I am the living proof White men will do the job if we're paid enough.
>>519819494The shitskin/farmer immigration pipeline has gone unchecked for far too long. America is dead last in farming innovation because why invest in tech when you can just flood the country with niggers and shitskins? Every country on earth that doesnt have millions of beaners to work is making strides in automation. America only adopts it once the price falls below the spic threshold, which kills any chance American engineers have to compete.
>>519821171This argument is going nowhere as you are an idiot. If you are feeling like you can do it then do it.
>>519821330Yes, you're argument IS going nowhere. That is correct.
>>519819616They need to stop buying Starbucks, you know how pickups I see buying lattes? Too fuck many and I live in a Dakota. Stupid fucking farmers!
>>519819494Sounds like that guy should be put to prison for treason. Dude deliberately sabotaged the food security of the country by bringing in paperless workers by huge numbers.
>>519819737If you had even the slightest inkling of how corrupt the ag "industry" is you would at least be asking some harder questions towards the farmers. I have farming on both sides of my family going back generations.
>>519821698My argument was just calling you out for being an idiot so I have succeeded.
>>519820546Trump lowers beef prices for millions of Americans. And you think this will lose MAGA supporters. Honk!
>>519819864>Why isn't this shit automated?Grain farming and the like is done by big machines, but most of your vegetables and all of your stone fruit has to be carefully picked by humans.The grain farmers are fucked because they were counting on international markets, the rest are fucked because they've lost their labor pool.And that's BEFORE Trump sends 10's of billions in "international aid" to fellow Grifter Autocrats, allowing them to undercut the grain market.
>>519819494But it’s not a cult right?
>>519820823>Family farms that support themselves on 15 acres of land and provide for themselves and they're communities need to be praised.>15 acresSo we are talking Tegridy Farms?
>>519820823A quick check on duckcuckgo's ai, rule of thumb is one person can manage 300 cows, each cow 1-2 acres, 1000lb/cow, 800 usable meat, 1/2 lb beef/day, one cow = feed 4.38 people/yr, 300 cows = one cattle rancher can feed 1314 people 1/2lb beef every day for a year. 1.45 million beef cows in south dakota, 215 thousands milk cows, 3.55 million in total including calves. divide by 300 = 11, 834 cattle ranchers needed in south dakota. South Dakota provides 6.35 million people 1/2lb beef/day/yr. 0.0186% of US population. One milk cow produces 6 gallons/day, 2.19k gallons/yr, at 215k milk cows, enough for drinking an 8oz glass of milk every day all year = 20.65 million or ~6% of US population. This is 40% of south dakota's farming industry. Their agriculture is corn, s-oyvey beans, & wheat. You can count on it all being glysophate and corn and s-oyvey = omega 6 concentrate. Should stop producing this crap.
>>519822056>Trump lowers beef prices for millions of Americans.Wow, so importing cheap overseas products are the 4D Chess solution?
>>519822041Proof that most retards don't understand they're retarded
Nigger fuck trump
>>519822416Aren't you morons saying that is the solution to everything? Hence the constant screeching about how bad tariffs are cos they force the American consumers to pay more. But now it's a bad thing that they will pay less for beef. FFS! You need to grow a brain.
>>519822394Some things are def off dressing out weight for steers is like 60% for one. Also depends on what they are considering taking care of them.
Around 2016 some business friends told me how their friends invented the EZ Up canopy company. They had it made in China and found out for every one they made for EZ Up they made one to sell as a knock off. Well I can't feel to bad for those country club republicans because they sent the job to China in the first place.
>>519819494Perhaps investing in automation/drones would be a better idea than abusing slave labour constantly.
>>519822546So what you are saying is, the solution to Trump's inflicted economic pain is actually to do the very thing Trump is supposed to be disincentivizing with the pain infliction?And I can't help but notice no pain is being inflicted on the incredibly wealthy donors who's families got rich on exporting jobs/importing illegal labor. No, those people got gibs on the taxpayer credit card.And then, because you are a dumb piece of shit, you try and turn it around on me??LMAO.
>>519822416America first.
>>519822780Grain farmers are already automated; they need the overseas customers that Trump has cheesed off.The rest handle produce that you can't pick with automation, because Elon hasn't delivered C3PO yet.
>>519822786One day you might learn that there is a big difference between tariffing your oscillating rainbow coloured buttplug and lowering the price of highly nutritious food. I really hope you can work out the difference.
If white people were picking vegetables other whites would look down on them.
>>519822341Lmao yup, we need more tegridy
>>519822886>Blah blah blah muh buttplug, *stupid faggot banter*Go find another thread with Anons at your low IQ level.
>>519822863If we get fully automated communism then what do the elites even need all the useless eaters for?
>>519823052Entertainment most likely. Salo and that sort of shit.
>>519822991Go buy some big juicy Argentinians steaks and enjoy them! Your bloody lucky cos a lot of people in the world could only dream of doing that.
The only farmers getting fucked over by this are the small time farmers selling their land to bill gates
>>519822863>The rest handle produce that you can't pick with automation, https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FKSqbiY_z2g
>>519823257https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5QtYl_-C4u8
>>519819494I say we buy Chinese beef and pork, and I'm not talking about Brands like Smithfield that the Chinks bought here in the US, I'm talking we import whole container ships of cows and pigs.
>>519819494Claim the land, hire patriots to work it instead of them
>>519822921Imagine if we could just keep them all on a plantation so Whites didn't have to see them.
>>519823257There you go. Invest a fortune in cutting edge drones, hire some cutting edge drone maintenance workers, and you can pick fruit in a totally controlled environment 1/5th as fast as Pedro.
>>519819494firing squads for those that employ illegalsrfk does full corn syrup banend of s()ybean subsidiesthe removal of illegals will put less strain on welfare, removal of corn syrup and removal of subsidies removes the need for welfare queen farmers who employed the illegals.its a pretty closed loop that can quite easily be cut off.
>>519823448>Hurr durr can't we just set fire to other people's countries without seeing it on the news or ever seeing them at all=
>>519823448>Another Mutt larping as a Southern Dandy on 4chan.Many such cases.
>>519823456You don't "hire" 1000 pedos while you do run 1000 drones that also operate 24/7.
>>519823559>>519823597It's a joke you fucking faggots.
>>519823546What it accomplishes is that the small farms will be bought out by the Agri giants and the Arabs, both of whom can afford Trump Shitcoins for exemptions from ICE raids.
>>519819494They are frankly just as criminal as the illegals if not more.
>>519819494It's really fucked up that the jews have turned all of trumps strongest supporters into his enemies by misrepresenting his policies.
>>519819655Argentinian beef is full of toxoplasmosis
>>519823754That’s just journalism
>>519823670>1000 drones that also operate 24/7.Yes, when we have that magical technology it will be great. But that shit isn't nearly that reliable, or it'd be widespread on the industrial farms. It's buggy test-technology in an enclosed test greenhouse. And still it is slow.
>>519823701That is what those college republicans said.
>>519820081Don't think too hard or you'll realize the media is spinning bullshit again
>>519823754>misrepresenting his policies.1. Make self immune to law2. Bully the Weak3. Suck off anyone Stronger4. Fill Family's pockets with bribes5. Blow smoke up Cletus' ass6. Do performative "fixes" that don't actually fix the problemDid I miss any of his policies?
>>519819494I thought most farming was automated?
>>519823822>Yes, when we have that magical technology it will be great.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dErRbhv2QOc
>>519823980Grain farming. Corn, Wheat, Basedbeans ect.
>>519819655I actually almost bought a cattle ranch in Argentina a few years ago>>519820292You right
>>519823996Pretty Lightshow for an hour =/= Doing Work All Day.
>>519824084https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EEOfSyANuvQYes, the light show is more complicated.
>>519819494This bitch isn't a farmer, he owns a farm. Nobody who employs illegals is actually doing any farming themselves, thus the need for illegals.
>>519824137No it's not, it's just computerized flight patterns coordinated in empty air. It's not complicated for a computer at all, you just need very low wind conditions.Evaluating ripe produce, tugging it free from a plant without damaging either, and depositing it somewhere without again damaging it, is vastly more complicated.
>>519823887Now you're getting it.
>>519824021You seem to want to know the truth so look up nutritional decline of fruit and vegetables over time. It doesn't end with "cheap pickers", the farmers then go to cheap inputs (i.e., lower quality fertilisers and micronutrients). That fruit and veg only looks like a fruit or vegetable but the nutritional content is continually degraded. So they are trying to convince you that they need cheap labour to pick "food" that really counts nothing towards a human's base nutritional needs. So it is all about profiting at the expense of their customer's physical health. If the fruit and veg was highly nutritious like it was decades ago then you would be making a fair point. But that is simply a fantasy. You want to essentially subsidise fake farming.
Ironically people that voted for an authoritarian like Trump show why people want authoritarianism to begin with. Every Trump voter is a living example that democracy can't work with a subhuman populace.
>>519824408Industrial scale fruit is lower quality almost purely because it is harvested too early for transport and to maintain "quality". If you have to ship Fruit a thousand miles to city grocery stores, it is never going to be as good as a local orchard. Doubly so for garden tomatoes vs grocery tomatoes. Grocery tomatoes have to be good on the shelves for weeks, and have to withstand handling at several junctures. It isn't some stupid RFK conspiracy bullshit to "drain you of your vital essence".
>>519824231You want to declare it's vastly more complicated(tm) knock yourself out, they're already doing it, as they describe in the videos. The tech to do automated picking has been around for decades, moving to it wasn't because it was complicated.
>>519819494>kike d&c threadall fields
>>519824561>democracy can't work with a mentally deficient, easily distracted and gaslit populace.Fix'd.It doesn't work because people don't educated themselves on the issues and just vote for Entertaining Memelord.
>>519819494>jail the boomer>none of the workers are eligible for naturalization EVER and have back-taxes on remittances garnished.Total GMO Death.
>>519824630not moving to it.
>>519819494Kike journalist finds the one farmer bitching and moaning the loudest and OP believes every word of it.>>519819655750 acres here and never needed a single spic. Never seen a gov't subsidy of any kind.>>519823980Grain farming, milk production to the extent practical. Beef is next to impossible.>>519824408A similar thing exists with hay, mid summer cuttings are lower in nutritional value and you end up having to supplement other types of feed to cattle in winter. You can correct for it with fertilizer to an extent but you're looking at additional costs either way.
>>519824599No, the hybrid tomato (which is the one you most likely see in the grocery shop) is proven to have a much lower nutritional content no matter when you pick it. It was developed in Israel as essentially a counterfeit tomato.
>>519822921>the chicago nigger crab cryptid is real
>>519824630>You want to declare it's vastly more complicatedLook again at your fruit pick drone video. No branches in the way of anything, it's a totally controlled enclosed greenhouse with suspiciously easy to get to fruit (because it's been staged that way). And still it's going slowly. Each drone is much slower than a human.
>>519819494doesn't it piss you off that the conservatives won't give you free money, but will give it to the farmers? that shit pisses me off and i'm not even american..
>>519824408Dubious payoffs for the Cold War. Malthusian Traps regardless. All the subsidies and exports have to be yanked. Mass has its own quality, but it's long past diminishing returns. Turns out it doesn't take a global coloured village to get to the moon and beyond.
>>519819494I always thought it was weird how nobody gives a shit about "farmers" running exploitive businesses. Modern day slave owners, 3 months ago you can be sure they were smug threatening to call ICE on their workers if they don't work longer days but now that ICE really did show up they're crying no fair.
>>519819494They can get and H1-A visa for farmhands
>>519824751Nothing that's cultivated for durability is going to be as good as what's growing in your garden, that was my point. Shartmart tomatoes are cultivated to survive going to and staying at Shartmart. The delicious ones would turn into mush on the way TO Shartmart.
>>519824743The techno cow uprising is coming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e3Vvvk-rjY
>>519819864because machines dont vote and lower the white population %duh
>>519824921Correct. Which is why Italians used to have huge family tomato sauce making days as a form of preserving high quality tomatoes. Good tomatoes have to be eaten straight from the vine or preserved. But I argue that this is the case with all fruit and veg. People mistakenly think that the fruit and veg they see sitting on the store shelf for days or weeks is actually real food. And those farmers producing it want to keep that lie going and will demand all forms of financial support to do so.
>>519825094Neither Trump nor the Democratic Leadership give a single actual fuck about the white population percentage. What I shall laughingly call the GOP Leadership only care about cradling Trump's nutz and rigging the votes to stay in Congress.Trump himself will tell you the negroes and Jews have no greater friend than him. And his Hindu oval office party full of Hindu cabinet members should really fucking open your eyes a bit.
>>519819494People don't seem to realize that farmers are richer than most Americans on average. This association of agriculture with poverty seems to be widespread
>>519824783It's not that copmlicated, it's happening. Your drone speed too slow argument is defeated at the outset by number of drones and 24/7 operation. If most farm owners are of your mindset it's a setup for someone to do a sweep to take over, put them all out of business as they argue against it while their new rival eats their lunch with his drone swarm farming.
>>519825184It's more nutritious than processed crap, and it's the alternative available to urban types, who are most types. People scraping by aren't buying authentic Italian canned tomatoes like me.
>>519824879Well even India is now suffering from a rising obesity problem. So mass calories are clearly reaching not only diminishing returns, but are reaching toxic returns. Eat less high quality food. Grow less poor quality calories. But we haven't even touched on how this would negatively impact the profits of Ag chemical and machinery companies.
>>519825338 There is no drone that operates 24/7. Most of them are hard pressed to operate more than an hour or two.If this shit were economically feasible at all, cheapskate farmers would be flocking to it. No one is a bigger cheapskate on labor than a farm owner.
>>519819737Most of the grain produced by US farmers is either exported or (in the case of corn) converted to ethanol
>>519824743Lazy bum >>519823754It’s more than that. Trump made all his policies about support supporting Jews instead of helping his supporters. Trump has taken the Jew worship too far and everyone has noticed. It’s bad for Trump and bad for Jews too the levels of noticing is crazy but their hubris blinds them from seeing how fucked they are
>>519824848I havnt had health insurance in 8 years.
>>519825361The point you should consider is that you may be better off not buying the fruit and veg to begin with. Because it is not real. Save that money and buy what you afford of quality eggs, dairy, and ocean caught sardines or herring.
>>519825417FYI, fat isn't just for storing calories, our bodies use fat to encapsulate toxins when the liver is overwhelmed. The food supply being more toxic than ever, how curious, people seem to be getting fatter without even trying. Also the same reason why people have a hard time losing weight, the body refuses to release the toxins from the fat until the liver is healthy enough to handle the released toxin load.
>>519819494South Dakota is run by pozzed faggot jew anus licking boomers who don't deserve to live
>>519819494All you have to do is ask how does everywhere else do it and the answer is: they do it without illegals
>>519825488They run them in relays = 24/7.
>>519825632Careful now. You don't know about how Aussie fruit and veg farmers have been exploiting foreign workers?
>>519825298My grandpa lives in a major corn farming region and behind his house there is a big farm and they have gotten paid NOT to farm for the past 15 years. I’m not joking this guy gets paid like 80k a year not to farm, there is trees that have grown 15-20 feet all over the fields it’s literally becoming a forest again on its own from neglect
>>519825624I recently went through a rough patch where I resorted to heavy drinking each day and I stayed the same weight but lost considerable muscle and put on a lot of fat. So this makes sense. The liver was overloaded, calories stayed the same so the body traded muscle for fat.
>>519822704To manufacture in China you have to partner with a Chinese company and give them your patents lol. That’s what having a based government is like
He can sell half his farm to another white male with a white family that will help run it.Or to chosen Ukrainian financiers who will be allowed to consolidate as much as they please and get as many illegals as they want. That latter is more likely.
>>519819494>hold economy and employment for ransom to maintain evil and unsustainable business practicesmaybe get satans cock out your ass
THE PEOPLE WHO GROW OUR FOOD ARE BETRAYING THE KIKE WHO STEALS FROM US!!!!!!!
>>519825879There's three ways the body gets rid of toxins, through our feces, urine, and sweat. Clean up your intake, aka cut out alcohol, toxic goyslop, do a liver cleanse, and sweat. Also while you're at it supply your body the 90 essential nutrients so it can function and process properly. Be consistent in this and things will turn around for you. Untangling the mess can take awhile depending, for instance, it takes eight years to clear out the overdose of omega-6.
That's government subsidized slave labor. Should we just have ooen slavery instead of pretending not to?
>>519823559Why would we have to accept refugees from a country were at war with? Just militarize the border and keep them out.
>>519826221Roger that. I've been off the omega 6 slop for 4 years. Didn't realise I'm only halfway.
>>519819494This is fake. Farmers automate now-a-days. We've learned from the past.
>>519826265An underclass has always existed, but the obvious problem is the effect it has on White nations without clear racial lines. AI couldn't develop fast enough for stoop work.
>>519819494>make decision to grow soi for China>hire entirely illegals as slave labor>China doesn't buy soi>Help me daddy government!>No! You can't free our slaves!
>>519820990>just get a million dollar loan broAre you actually fucking retarded?
>>519826201youre in a 1 post by this id slide thread made by a kike, genius
>>519826277It hasn't changed your behavior yet. Republicans can't even into first order consequences.
>>519826730Yeah, you take on an inordinate amount of debt starting out. Or yknow start out small leasing land and buying cattle.
>>519824743You are a traitor to America. I hope Bill Gates buys your land and starts growing something Americans actually want to eat
>>519826828No, bitch, fuck that. You only think that because of some retarded moral reasoning. Why would you allow your enemies into your house unsupervised? Leave them to rot among the ruins, that's war.
>>519819494What?What fucking farms? What labor? What the fuck are they selling?It's an "open secret" because these retards are in their fucking safe space not talking to the community they're dumpstering that fucking hates their guts.
