A few days ago, Trump acknowledged the ad and seemed to dismiss it. Now, he’s accusing Canada of trying to influence the Supreme Court decision and is imposing additional tariffs.>Why is he doing this?He is doing this because his lawyers told him he is likely to lose in court. The U.S. government will have to repay billions of dollars extorted from other countries, a humiliating defeat for Trump and a major blow to his foreign policy agenda. He is positioning himself to claim it was all rigged and unfair, blaming interference from Canada, other countries, and anti-American progressives so he can play the victim and never have to admit defeat. SAD!
>The head of Ontario uses Reagan's quotes out of context>In a literal, direct propaganda attack on American media>Trump cancels all trade talks and slaps on more tariffs>Carney had leash Ford and pull the ad as it backfired spectacularlyIf you want to see what pissing in the wind REALLY looks like?This is it. 75 million Canadian tax dollary doos to not only fuck up all future trade deals with the USA (Trump still has THREE more years in office) but you've secured being on the shit end of each deal if any deals are to be made.
>>519837615You lost. You voted in a dumb jew loving pedo.
>>519837615It's amazing how MAGA tards can see a video of someone talking and claim it's fake because Trump said so. 1984 tier brainwashing.
>>519837779it was a speech about Reagan putting tariffs on Japan you stupid double poutine nigger.
>>519837615>(Trump still has THREE more years in office)I'm not that fluent with American politics. Is he guaranteed his full term, or can he get a vote of no confidence, like Carney is going to get here in a week, which will trigger another election?
>>519837615CBC Mentioned an hour ago ford said it would be pulled monday.KNEE = BENTLEAFBROKEN.
>>519837982>or can he get a vote of no confidence, like Carney is going to get here in a week, which will trigger another election?Anon, stop those are seditious and Anti-Canadian thoughts.
America can pretty much do what it wants to canada who fucking cares when we have thousands of shitskins flown here everydayPriorities NIGGER
>>519838017Tell that to the CBC then, who actually isn't sucking up to him for once and isn't trying to bash the Conservatives as hard as they usually do.
>>519837958About how he loathed doing it and how in the long term, tariffs would harm Americans. He certainly wouldn't be a fan of it being the main pillar of American foreign policy.
>>519837982He'd have to be impeached and convicted, only then would he be excised from office.He only got impeached the other two times, not convicted.
>>519837278if tarifs are bad for us, why does every country have tarifs on us?if tarifs were bad, wouldnt nobody else be using tarifs on us?can you explain away that logical trap?
>>519838119because you stupid maple headed retards don't trade fair, you want to tariff the fuck out of our shit to pay for jeets and shitty healthcare because your government is retarded and broke and they are voted in by an even more retarded populace
>>519838245At least I don't communicate in misinformation right wing memes because my brain turned into an inert mass from demoralization propaganda.
>>519837278He really can't make a single fucking deal.
>>519838798Their 3 largest trading partners Canada, Mexico and China have no deal.
>>519837278And if Trump doesn't lose his case, are you going to admit that you were wrong?
>>519839326I will.
>>519837278>Billionaire owned corporations raise costs on consumer goods to offset the costs of tariffs>Trump uses taxpayer money to pay back the billionaires for the tariffs>But the common man who bought the goods at inflated prices gets... nothing...
>>519839326you do know that during Trumps first term when he was pussyfooting around with a trade war with China he imposed tariffs on American farmers which he then had to pay back. There is already a historical precedence for this and with the flyover state hillbillies screaming bloody murder about the tariffs it's either pay them back or lose every local and state election until his term ends and risk getting turned into a lame duck.
>>519839623>Impose tariffs on others >Reactionary measures harm farmers>Take money from tariffs to pay farmers An inefficient clusterfuck just to get back to where you started.
>>519837615kek this
>>519839502that's not what has happened, though. Losing their market share would be too big of a deal if they simply raised prices
>>519838245Trump accused Canada of violating CUSMA, but his own investigation later found that Canada held up its part of the bargain.The only bad actor here is Trump.
>>519837615What part of it was out of context? Everyone parrots this line without explanation.
>>519837278america has un seen tariffs rate and things did not increase proportionally to tariff rate.
>>519837278>a court can compel the president of the united states to pay back money to foreign entitiesalso>LE HECKIN THINK OF THE MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONINOS WHO WANT TO IMPORT CHEAP CHINK SHIT TO YOU AND NOT PAY ANY TAXES ON IT!!!!!!!!!!!
>>519837278>a humiliating defeat for Trumpwhy?if the prez can't tariff, nobidy can, not congress, it's impossible for them to do it, we have 100 years of their inability.if the prez can't tariff, then the whoke constitution necessarily must be scrapped, since it's incapable of financial defense. (thus doesn't provide for the people)
>>519841421you are talking to a billionaire leftbot.the fleshbots and botbots of billionaires.
>>519837730Biden? Obama? Bush? Clinton? Which one ?
>>519839502>>But the common man who bought the goods at inflated prices gets... nothingnigger read the wikipedia intro on tariffs.like look at the list of at least alleged gans.shitlib fleshbots of poopoo brsind pissdongsiq 0 yuk factory kike script tard slobber
>>519837278Leafland is a tiny fraction of our imports/exportsYet 75% of leafland exports go to USA, 100% in many industries. Tons of leafabons always admit they have zero leverage against usa & futious that carney is trying to act tough and LARP as having any leverage at all. It might work on yuropoors, but Trump always calls your bluff and retaliates. Making you with you didn't try to play games Seems like leadland needs USA more than we need leafsLeafs finna get day of the rake
>>519838119>Tarrifs don't workAlso Canada >We tarrifed you a lot higher for years before this for some reason.
>>519837730>Jew loving>First president ever to criticize Israel in any way.
>>519841947Remember when leafs did their pathetic "elbows up" shit that bo one understood?Furious and trying to claim that trump was an unreasonable tyrant bullyWhy? Reciprocal tariffs Simply applying the same tariffs back to them, thst they apllied on our goodsLet alone abusive shit, like 300% on dairy and meat & other industries.It's crazy how retard nornies were kvetching about "reciprocal tarriffs" with leads and yuropoors
>>519837615retard
>do free trade agreements>export all manufacturing jobs>americans lose their livelihoods and the middle class is nearly deleted from existence >apply tariffs to pressure companies to bring back work to America>noooo that's bad, it's like pissing in your own face. You're going to pag more!If we just had tariffs in place and no free trade deals, then the extra cost of goods would never have happened because more things would be produced in America. It's free trade that fucked us, and these corporate propaganda comics that leftists gobble up aren't going to change that.
>>519841947Canada loves tariffs so much they even have tariffs between the various parts of Canada.They are insane.
>>519842309>americans lose their livelihoodsNo they haven't, America is richer than ever.>the middle class is nearly deleted from existenceBecause they have to pay all the taxes while billionaires pay none.You think the middle class did manual labor in a factory?
>>519837278Meanwhile, in reality...
>>519837278Weird how tariffs work magically for every other country but specifically only for America they're a bad idea. Almost as if the tariffs are a good idea but asshurt leftists know their retarded base can be convinced they're bad via gross cartoons like the children they are.
>>519839502>Hey look at this shit I pulled directly out of my ass!
>>519846306What made you so fucking dumb? Tariff's are good if you wield them like a surgeon with a scalpel, when you, through analysis, find specific things they can help with, and apply them in a sparing and targeted fashion.Coming out with some failed middle school math as a disingenuous justification, to apply blanket tariffs on the majority of the world, so you and your buddies can poop and scoop the market is the opposite of that.
>>519846306No noOnly Trump
>>519846306Also more star of david kin adjacent as well.
>>519838693No, you just communicate in misinformation left wing memes because you never had a brain to begin with.
>>519838131They cannot, and will not.
Fed post again with slide/e demoralizing threads.
>>519840371He did that whole speech while announcing tariffs on Japan. It was fluff bullshit to pad the religion of free trade for the reality of tariffs that every sane nation state engages in. I will say what Canada and the US are engaged in has nothing to do with trade, balanced and safe industry. It's about aligning a business class with politics. The Laurentians flexed with their elbows up shit about how much their psyop worked on their market. But to what end? The Canada project isn't producing amazing things anymore. America is still apparently a jew ridden shithole hiding Israeli state murders of POTUS friends (Charlie Kirk) so neither of us are better off together or separate - but that might not be true in a few months. We're floating in an era of space and time where Trump either decided to side with the jew or learned about the jew to destroy that mafia for the betterment of Western Civilization.
>>519847095Reagan showed he was carefully considering precisely what tariffs to apply.I wish we had a president that only had Reagan's level of dementia.
>>519847291Reagan was operating in an era where the US didn't ship strategic industries to shithole countries.
>>519847095Trump was probably thinking of Cohn back in 15 when everywhere he looked he would see pepes used in favour of his rise. His whole life, he has been surround by bizarre political cultists that worship frogs.
Do you even know how the numbers on that stupid board were calculated? Do you really believe all trade should be reciprocal? How's your trade deficit with your local grocery store?
>>519847448It's far, far stranger than that. Run all that bullshit through an LLM probability matrix.As I said, there's two possibilities for what Trump is, and only two. Either he's a complete unfathomably good goy slave to Chabbad and the rest to the point he literally sold his children like in Andor for the cause, or he's out the destroy them and currently stepping on eggshells. Roy Cohn hated those jews, but that's not enough to say where this all lands.
>>519847566>How's your trade deficit with your local grocery store?Retard talk and never repeat this in a serious conversation about state level economics.
>>519847581*I didn't structure part of this argument correctly but for anyone that matters they'd know.
>>519837615BASED WHITE AMERICAN TELLING JEETLEAF ZUTTZLIME HOW IT IFUCK ZUTTZLIMES
>>519847614Answer my questions, do you think all trade should be reciprocal? Because that's real retard level shit.
>>519837278>He is doing this because his lawyers told him he is likely to lose in courtI am counting the days, brother. Should be decided before or a bit after the new year. Trump's greatest disaster are these tariffs and once they're gone the economy will boom.
>>519837615I despise Canadian politics and libtards. I really like the states. Let's not be koi though...you voted in a fucking retarded robot puppet. Yet you parade around like you're so fucking proud because he says shit all the time that could be a headline. You're talking about a guy that's never lifted a hammer in his existence and ripped off working class companies that worked on his hotel. We're talking bankrupt because they bought all the materials, paid all the works and put in all the time and Trump defaulted on payment. What a guy. Not to mention his gigabyte amounts of pictures with Epstein and Ghislaine yet you guys keep defending him on that. Give me a break. His Tariff policy is fucking STUPID. What manufacturing has came back to America? Where has all this tariff money helped the lower classes? I haven't seen shit.You people are fucking STUPID.
>>519846838So many words to say nothing. I agree, tariffs are a good thing. I disagree blanket tariffs are bad. They're good because now the US can suck the marrow out of other countries like they've been doing to us for 80 years. Now kindly go kill yourself before your EBT benefits stop.
>>519847841Long before I answer that disgustingly broad question you'll have to answer this; do you think it's a good idea to export all strategic industry to foreign hostile shores?
>>519847946This is an actual Laurentian glownigger, likely RCMP. Imagine thinking you don't have to fuck around with contractors just because they're working class. Only someone who has never done contracting in any way, shape, or form would say that. A retard, a government employee outside of the contracts department. His tariff policy with Canada is designed to break Canada, because it's legitimately a good idea at this point. But only if America ends up less jewed than this place.
>>519847970Most of the marrow you're sucking is from the domestic import/export thieves right now. The long term point is to take enough and balance that out that it's cost effective for non-pieces of shit to build domestic industry. That does take time to do organically in the market and Trump is smart enough to know it's best to avoid doing as much of that via fiat as possible. Markets DO work, but only with the right incentives in the direction non-traitors and wealthy thieves design.
>>519848153Spoken like a true basement dwelling piece of shit without a pot to piss in or any sort of investments.How's the neet life treating you bitch? Don't hurt yourself posting.
>>519847970Who's sucking what now? It could have been ok if he'd chosen to pick a fight with a few countries, but he picked a fight with everyone. Inflation is back up to 3%, with a GDP that is stagnant, except for the AI bubble, and the dollar is depreciating against foreign currencies much more than the inflation gap. Both our imports and exports have fallen. Our competitiveness is actively being hurt.
>>519837278No.
>>519848516Was one NDP election off paying of my house with domestic mining. You're a slave, and you know it. Parse my argument and tell me I'm wrong.
>>519848028You know Trump's tariffs carved out chips because he didn't want to piss off his new big tech friends, right? Same with Pharma.
>>519837278why would trump pee on a fan?did the artist just repurpose his trump piss fetish drawings into a comic?
>>519849247Simplisitic and retarded. Chips are temporarily carved out and not just that. The CHIPS act Trump started (and it's fucking BRAINDEAD to think it's just Trump moving these geopolitical mountains. He's a very large and engaged figurehead like Caesar was the battering ram of 150 years of counter-optimate policy), led to founding the nearly latest wafers on US soil.
>>519843044>tariffs are le bad!!!>except when we use it!!!Canadian leaders are freaking out because tariffs are screwing over Canadian exports, getting them booted from the American market, and American consumers won’t be propping up your Pajeet shithole anymore.
>>519849245Lmao...yeah okay. Look at you talk like a boomer. You're a fucking clown. Grow up shitbag.
>>519848737>he picked a fight with everyoneI remember you fucking idiots saying America would be isolated from the rest of the world any day now because Trump brought it back to tariff-based economy. America has economic leverage due to the buying power of its 300 million population, and every business from all around the world wants a share of that. Trump realized this in his second term and became more aggressive on using tariffs to get what he wants. Literally only China and Canada retaliated, and the latter already pussied out, while the rest fell in line and sucked his dick to get lower tariffs. Canadians are just throwing tantrum because they feel entiled for the American market.
>>519837278Fuck you leaf. If we lift the the tariffs, you iceback fucks will go back to screwing us over.
>>519850006Every time I see a foreign flag bitching about America, I think about what shitty countries they are and how they depend on America in one way or another. Our republic has been carrying the world on its fucking back for 80 years. The second we stopped even slightly to shore things up we're the worst country in the world. Fortunately, foreigners don't matter. We should squeeze the world dry then pull up the ladder and watch the world burn safely from our impenetrable resource-rich country protected on both sides by oceans. Then we'll take over South America and have complete hemispheric control.
>>519839502You do know that the ballroom was private donation, right? No tax dollars? Goddamn lefties are so uninformed its incredible.
>>519840131Honda, Toyota and subaru build quite a lot here, and those plants do really well.
>>519850695Would be nice. The problem is where to find some resources.
>>519837278If you think SCOTUS is going vote against these tariffs you are delusional and retarded. We have over 200 years of case law vis a vis Presidential tariffs and the sitting US President has won in the Supreme Court every single time. The chances of Trump losing this case are somewhere between 0 and a fuck all.t. Lawfag
>>519851259deep sea nodules are another resource21 billion tons just laying on the surfacegrowing at the rate of 5mm per million years
>>519851259Did you not read the part where we take over South America? By your chart looks like Brazil will come in handy.
>>519851425>If you think SCOTUS is going vote against these tariffs you are delusional and retarded. We have over 200 years of case law vis a vis Presidential tariffs and the sitting US President has won in the Supreme Court every single time. The chances of Trump losing this case are somewhere between 0 and a fuck all.>t. Lawfagwhere in the Constitution does it say Tariffs are the President's duty?
>>519851259Rare earths aren’t actually rare. The problem is China has the capacity to process them and make it useable. Western nations are retarded and didn’t build their own mineral refineries due to environmental regulations and just let China do the dirty work. This is why EPA deregulating in a massive scale.
>>519852098Article 1. It's a delegared power by Congress under US statute. See: McKinley sugar tariffs and whatever that one act from 30s was that I forgot the name of.
>>519852098You want taxes on the rich, right? Trump is doing that now with tariffs. This is why Elon is bitching about it because he’s gotta pay import levies for his Tesla batteries. It’s much harder to dodge those than corporate taxes, where some Jew lawyer exploits it with loopholes. Also, companies are cautious about raising prices because they don’t want to lose market share.
>>519852443>Article 1. It's a delegated power by Congress under US statute. See: McKinley sugar tariffs and whatever that one act from 30s was that I forgot the name of.i.e. it is clearly Congress' power but they are free to 'delegate' it away to the tyrant if they wish?The key text is in Article I, Section 8, Clause 1, which states:The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.This clause vests the authority over tariffs squarely with Congress, as tariffs are a form of tax on imports. Additionally, Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 grants Congress the power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations," which includes setting trade policies like tariffs.
>>519852664>You want taxes on the rich, right? Trump is doing that now with tariffs.tariffs are a tax on the consumer, duh
>>519852799>i.e. it is clearly Congress' power but they are free to 'delegate' it away to the tyrant if they wish?Correct. And they already did under multiple US statutes that have existed for well over a century. Anytime Congress delegates a power to the President and you see in the statute something like "if in the President's JUDGEMENT X, Y and Z necessitates a response of A he may..." then the Courts are bound be precedent to be EXTREMELY deferential to the President. The reason for that is SCOTUS considers a judge substituting their own judgement for that of the President to be an Article 2 violation.In other words if Congress writes statute that the President gets to decide then that's that. This is exact same thing that happened in the 9th Circuit decision that just came out regarding the militia act.SCOTUS is not going to overule this. They haven't the other 30 times this has happened, even with far less favorable courts to Reps, and they won't now. Canada is fucked.
>>519852843Did you even read my post nigger? I’ll simplify it for you. What tax am I paying if I refuse to buy a Swiss Watch with 40% tariff rate? ZERO. It’ll just hurt the exporter because no one is buying their overpriced shit. Tariff is a form of trade barrier. You brainlets think it works like VAT.
>>519837278Tired of this any tariff bullshit. The west cannot compete with the sheer labour numbers of the third world combined with their corrupt governments and low living conditions and cost. Every western country should have high tariffs on any country they cannot compete with.
>>519852799The fact that the Supreme Court already accepted the tariff case via the shadow docket means they’re going to rule in favor of Trump. The only case Trump might realistically lose is the birthright citizenship one because of John Roberts and Amy Barrett.
>>519853428Based. Free trade is only for white, first world countries. And all third world immigrant parasites have to go back.
>>519853558>The fact that the Supreme Court already accepted the tariff case via the shadow docket means they’re going to rule in favor of TrumpOf course they will. Liberals don't realize SCOTUS has already ruled on this exact situation like half a dozen times over the decades. The left has no understanding of history and has no idea that this is not unique, or even uncommon in US history. The US had massive tariffs for most of its existence and none of this is new.
>>519853688The left only "knows" what they're told to "know" by the media. They're brain-dead cowards who are so scared of "being on the wrong side of history" they'll allow themselves to be destroyed to appear virtuous. Weak morons.
>>519843044Any tax is a tax on the poor. Every tax will indirectly increase prices or lower wages, and wealth will still continue to flow up.
>>519837278The president has the authority to conduct trade deals with foreign countries. It seems perfectly within reason that those countries do not put on a nationalistic show in the middle of negotiations or we can implicitly expect them to not honor the terms of the deal. Trump doesn't want Americans to go chest beating at Canada. All this implies that he wants a deal among allies, but not one where we buy our allies. This has been obvious since he returned to the office.Trump's arrogance towards other nations is mostly dissatisfaction with governments that pander to organized crime. Governments have always done this, but historically the organized crime was marketed as a church. The US does not have a state religion and Trump doesn't seem inclined to create one. All he's doing is filling the gap created when you don't trust a phantom police force to coerce the public to do your bidding.The only problem that people on /pol/ and everywhere else has, is that they want to have their cake and eat it too. Too many voters smugly think that they can be a Fonzie and be a hero while extorting from others. It's irrational, but they believe in it more than they do any religion.We won't have a war with Canada. We won't occupy the place. We are headed to civil war because we can't stop thinking that we have some kind of psychic control over the dice and we think we can pick the party that is begging for our god-like leadership. Have at it, already!
>>519837278I don't know what the fucking points is anymore, this whole thing started off as an attempt to re-vitalize the American economy. Now it seems like a pissing match and arbitrary import taxes being throw onto US citizens which changes from one day to the next.This is highly destabilizing to small business and the private sector, while connected large corporations have exemptions and work arounds for all of this.
>>519837615>reagan loved tarriffsCitation needed jew lover.
>>519838131Countries put tariffs on the us post ww2 even when usa ended our tariffs. Decades later they stayed in place even after the us built Europe.
>>519837278Canada lost
>>519853688Trump and carney are just stalling until the real usmca renegotiations scheduled next year. Although trump showed how worthless his own signature is. But it’s all theater until we get flooded with cheap chink cars and huawei phones.
>>519837730you lost actually and it shows because of how angry you are XD
>>519855741>We want to tax the rich>No, not like that!get fucked, retard.
>>519837278I like his tariffs because the subhumans mutt's paying for it. Sheeps to the slaughter. Trump also feeding the AI bubble which will wipe the American and the world economy. Except Europe because Europe hates AI.
>>519856233>Import millions of sand niggers who want to rape and kill white people>winningI am noticing!
>>519856123>”India is our greatest ally” >”eagleman” Tim>aka David freemanOy vey
>>519843044>No they haven't, America is richer than ever.Go to Gary or Youngstown and tell me deindustrialization was a good idea.
>>519856123He's not backtracking: it's always been the policy of Canada that the US should pay for their defense so they can continue spending all their tax revenue on gibs for immigrants and injuns. Canada loves getting something for nothing from the US.
>>519856572I thought we were a drug empire catapulting your northern spaces with fentanyl.
>>519837278>he is likely to lose in court.Nah. The ad used cuts and edits to vastly misrepresent Reagan's position on tariffs. In fact, that speech that Doug Ford chopped up was all about how Reagan was imposing tariffs on Japan for blocking American goods from being allowed to be sold there -- which is what Canada is doing to U.S. goods with 250% tariffs on dairy products, for just one example.In America, the executive has the power to impose tariffs. Full stop. You guys are fucked.
>>519855741>still repeats the lie a tariff is a tax on consumersngmi
>>519847291Kamala lost, tranny. Just like hillary before herGet over it already, or at least finish up the 42% club. Get back to plebbit where you belong
>>519856523Those two cities have been husks for decades. Get more recent reference points.
>>519839494Will you put your money where your mouth, er, typing is? I'll create a bet on Betmoose where you can bet against me. Note, Betmoose is a Bitcoin betting platform, so you will need some BTC to bet there. It's also run by Canadians, so ~3% of the money that gets bet will go into your economy when they take their cut.Here's an example bet:https://www.betmoose.com/bet/new-york-city-mayoral-race-november-25-6125
>>519857578And we've been shipping jobs overseas for decades
>>519837278>this pictureWhy is it good when other countries tariff America but bad when America tariffs other countries?
>>519837278>accusing Canada of trying to influence the Supreme Court decisionOh so suddenly a random lying sociopath claims the Greenhouse effect is no longer real?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect_(United_States_Supreme_Court)
>>519856572I know, Canadians are extremly selfish and centered who thinks they own America.>>519856809I find it funny that everyone here says we have a drug problem but the moment Trump says the same thing all of a sudden we are clean. get fucked.
>>519857484>which is what Canada is doing to U.S. goods with 250% tariffs on dairy products, for just one example.They're actually 400% if you can believe it. Canada is not a serious negotiator. Their entire "strategy" is to kick and scream like a petulent child and somehow, someway, that will cause a return to a previous status quo that the US has already said repeatedly is never happening again.
>>519857871Why isn’t trump targeting Canadian fishing boats? Seems like a much closer problem. Is this fentanyl problem getting worse or is it still the same? Or have 40% tarriff stopped it?
>>519837278>billions of dollars extorted from other countriesBut I thought tariffs were a tax on US citizens? How does taxing US citizens extort other countries? If tariffs work like pissing in your own face then why does Canada have tariffs on US imports? We all know you're mad about us protecting our own industries but you could be less retarded about it, your low iq propaganda doesn't work on anyone with the capacity for rational thought.
>>519858312Trump agreed to these flooding protection tarriffs when he signed the first usmca. Tarriffs that have never been applied by the way.
>>519842899>>519841947They are not "tariffs" as you niggers believe they are. Those are import taxes. All tariffs are import taxes paid by the importer, retards.
>>519838131Import taxes and flat taxes, retard
>>519858595Tarriffs agreed upon and signed on during trade treaty negotiations Meanwhile trump is using Reagan and Palestine as an excuse.
>>519857484The only time the President has unilateral power to impose tariffs is when the imported item(s) in question pose a risk to national security, and even then it requires him to to order the Department of Commerce to perform an investigation first, and that investigation involves opening up lines of communication for the public to voice their opinions on the matter. If the DoC's conclusion is that it isn't a threat, he can't do anything.>But Congress gave him power to-Trump's tariffs fall under section section 122 of the IEEPA, which means they can only legally last for 150 days unless Congress approves them. They've lasted longer and have no Congressional approval, meaning they're void and the Supreme Court will strike them down.
>>519857755Because those other countries were getting an unfair advantage and don't want to lose it.Obviously.
>>519858624And USMCA is up for renegotiation soon and he told you to get rid of it. You don't want to because you care more about what's good for cartel that bribes the liberals every election than your own industries? Fine, enjoy your new tariffs.You retards really don't get this: we are perfectly happy with this new arrangement. Either way we win.
>>519858312>Their entire "strategy" is to kick and scream like a petulent childthats because literally everyone here is mentally stunted AND it fuels hate towards America that America is being a "rude" person by not bending down to everything Canada wants. This is exactly how an abusive relationship is formed, leech the life out of another person then call them evil and bad for wanting to walk away.>>519858545We might actually see a drop now that ICE and blowing up drug boats is a thing, although it will get worse for Canada because Canadians love migrants selling them drugs.
>>519858905Like I said, it’s all theater until China is welcomed to the Canadian market. Can Jews really lose another profit center at this point?
>>519858997So tarriffs did nothing. Please shoot more Canadians.
>>519837278t; 'Trump'
>>519859052>Please shoot more Canadians.WITH VACCINES
>>519855900The 1983 motorcycle tariffs for one.
>>519859112you know what they say,. you fuck with motorcycles you control the economy
>>519859006China is already in the Canadian market dummy. You have a massive trade deficit with them. You have a trade SURPLUS with the US. You are literally destroying your own balance sheet like retards.
>>519837278Remember before the jeets came?
>>519859258I really didn't mind chinks and the chink writing all over the place T B H , not nearly as reprehensible as these shit goblins
>>519859171Where’s my cheap huawei phone?Where’s my $10k car?Decoupling from the judeo-economy will hurt short term, but it will hurt international Jewry even more long term.
>>519859108No no, I want literal bullet ridden corpses with the words narcoterrorists as a caption. Why did trump declare war on Venezuelan and Mexican drug cartels and forgot about us…We’re drug kingpins too eh?
>>519859982>We’re drug kingpins too eh?Yeah, prescription drugs
>>519859810>why can't we make our trade deficit with china even worse?You know what, I'm really going to enjoy this.
>>519859052>admitting that the drug cartels attacking America are CanadianLeaf seething really is on a whole new level. You are evil with your own self inflicted pain.
>>519838693>at least iAre you fuckin 12? Why are liberals so fucking stupid?
>>519860046>>519860066>>519860308Oy vey!
>>519837278It could be as simple as negotiations going nowhere, Lighthauzer commented on this when negotiated with Freeland.Canadians and Americans DO NOT speak the same language, even though both call it English.If you had to negotiate with a leaf you might walk away too.
A country whose strength was its diversity couldn’t even tolerate transgender hate and ended up electing Trump. As a result, the economy, foreign policy, and politics all paid the price. Was that really a fair trade? If Americans hadn’t obsessed over hating trans people, Americans could have been enjoying prosperity under Kamala.
>>519837730Go back.
>>519861757>Americans could have been enjoying prosperity under Kamala.Anon our inflation is down to 3%, core is under 3, gas prices are down 40% from Biden, unemployment is down, GDP is up, government spending is being reduced, and interest rates are down. Me personally my wife just got 150k per year job offer last week.If Trump wants to burn every single tranny and spic alive at the stake on the National Mall not a single working American would complain right now. Nobody here wants to see a democrat in power ever again.
>>519858814Guess what? You're going to renegotiate. We don't agree to those terms, you're not going to take advantage of us anymore. You're going to have to pay for your own socialism and you're going to thank us for it, get ready.
>>519860973>Just keep giving money to communist groups who brainwash people and lie about needing money>also da jews!you lost
>>519861757you also lost
>>519862028I'll tell you the truth MAGA BOI1. According to OECD projections, U.S. GDP growth dropped from 2.8% in 2024 to around 1.6% in 2025. S&P Global forecasts 4th-quarter growth at only 1.2%. Short-term gains don’t erase the slowdown.2. How Trump lowered inflation despite aggressive tariffsSince Trump took office, the substitution rate of items in the CPI hit a historic high of 35%.CPI includes food categories like fruits, meats, vegetables, etc.,and inside fruits, you have apples, oranges, dragon fruits, and so on.It's basically impossible to track every single type of fruit,so the CPI picks a few "representative" items to monitor.But over one-third of those representative items got swapped out.For example, if tariffs made apple prices jump 30%, apples get kicked out of the representative basket, and uninflated fruits like oranges get included instead as substitutes.By swapping in items that haven't gone up much, they can basically fake the inflation numbers.Normally, due to bad harvests, disasters, or trends, about 5–10% of items get swapped monthly.After Trump's tariffs? That number shot up to 35%. WTF lolhttps://www.bls.gov/cpi/additional-resources/entry-level-item-descriptions.htm
>>519837615fpbp
>>519863154>to around 1.6% in 2025.Yeah, that's their forecast. Meanwhile, here in reality, last quarter was 3.8%
>>519863414NICE TRY MAGA BOI BUT You point to last quarter’s 3.8% GDP growth, but looking at the full-year and structural trends tells a different story:>1. IMF Projection: The IMF raised its 2025 U.S. GDP growth forecast to 2%, but that’s still down from 2.8% in 2024. Even with AI-driven investment, they warn that trade tensions and other risks remain. >2. Trade Policy Impact: U.S. tariffs are at 19.5%, the highest since 1933, increasing import/export costs and causing supply chain disruptions, which weighs on long-term growth. LIKE THIS, Quarterly spikes can mislead: One strong quarter doesn’t cancel out a downward trend
>>519863824Like I'm going to listen to the same WEF shills who claimed Q2 was only going to be 1.1% only for it to be announced at 3.3% and then revised UPWARD to 3.8%? Are you retarded? No one believes your CCP/Davos lies anymore Jew boy. We have real data and the real data is blowing your bullshit forecasts the fuck out of the water.
>>519840371Reagan permanently ass fucked the US economy. Unironically using his talking points about economic affairs as a gotcha is the most retarded shit anyone could do.
>>519863954Oh poor MAGA BOI, Temporary jumps are often caused by inventory adjustments, one-off fiscal or trade shocks, and statistical revisions. These do not indicate a robust or accelerating economy, last quarter’s GDP came in higher than some forecasts at 3.8%, but let’s be precise: the annualized growth for 2025 is still projected to slow to around 2%, down from 2.8% in 2024. A single quarter spike does not erase the broader downward trend.You don’t need to fight the numbers to defend Trump. Stats aren’t the enemy. Reality isn’t negotiable too
>>519864407>us economy projected by the IMF, CCP, WEF, and Davos to collapse if tariffs aren't removed on chinaMeanwhile, in reality: 3.8% year over year quarterly growth.I'm sorry reality doesn't allign with your wishes Chang. Maybe if you cry hard enough it will.
>>519850983Well, where do you think Toyota, Honda, and Subaru get their parts from? Even the Chinese have to use integrated circuits made in Taiwan and South Korea, as well as a whole array of raw minerals from Africa, Central Asia, Eastern Europe, and elsewhere.
Then why are the canadians all butthurt at their tariffs going up?
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Nothing Trump says makes any sense, but what is the supposed logic of Canada "influencing" the Supreme Court? That the justices will be swayed by a commercial?North Korea-tier clown country.
>>519864572>MUH JEWS!!>MUH CHINKSAmazing how one quarter magically erases annualized slowdown, tariff headaches, and weakening job creation. Maybe cry a little harder, reality still doesn’t care about your wishes(MAGA fanfiction) LMAO
>>519838119>trying to rewrite history in real timeIf tariffs only fuck over Americans why are all the countries Trump is putting tariffs on desperately trying to make a deal with him to reduce tariffs?It's really simple. I bet you won't even bother trying to honestly answer my question either, you'll just pivot to being a shithead shill again.
>>519865208The President doesn't need "logic" to buttfuck you, he has power. Give him what he wants in trade negotiations or get rekt.
>>519841947The dumb dog-fucking leafniggers don't have a real response to this. If they respond to this at all it's in a smarmy snarky way that doesn't address the core issue. Just like how boomers talk past people.
>>519837615It’s not even out of context. He never said it. It’s AI. Reagan would never say such a thing
>>519865290>amazing how one quarter so quickly and immediately showed your WEF propaganda forecars for what they wereI know right? Amazing. Almost like itnwas all CCP propaganda. The funniest thing is not even the WEF crowd themselves believed their own bullshit nunbers. Foreign investment in the US is up.
>>519853245What people like you don't seem to realize (or to point out) is that tariffs don't just apply to luxury items. Businesses gotta make use of stuff like lamps, foldable staircases, screwdrivers, pliers, printers, printer toners, etc., and frankly speaking, a lot of that is simply not made in America anymore because it's just no longer affordable to pay Americans to do that sort of stuff. Right now, a lot of that stuff is being made in China, Vietnam, or Thailand, but later it'll have to be made in Pakistan, Kenya, or the DR Congo, and even later it'll have to shift to countries like Burundi and Niger because literally no other countries will have minimum wages low enough to keep producing that shit at a level where it doesn't hurt the average consumer's pocket.So you better make sure that shit stays in China, cuz otherwise China's just gonna keep outsourcing over to even poorer countries, like they're already doing now by building electronics factories in Mexico and Thailand.
>>519865437POOR MAGA BOI. One quarter doesn’t rewrite a slowing economy. This isn’t CCP propaganda, WEF hype, or some evil Jew conspiracy. It’s just STATSIt's REALITY
>>519866107>It’s just STATS>It's REALITYIt is literally neither of those, they are forecasts. Forecasts intentionally put out as propaganda to benefit China the EU, and the globohomo "liberal" world order. Every time we actually DO get stats they BTFO those forecasts by a country mile.
>>519837730Noooo you cant criticize orange kike trumpedo ur a troon aaaaaaaaaa oooooooy veyyy
>>519837278>TARIFF BAD WHEN YOU DO!so why do other countries all use tariffs then?
>>519866258Sure, keep crying, MAGA BOI. Soon the Supreme Court will declare your great king’s tariff tantrums illegal, and all those importers and companies who paid those tariffs will get huge refunds. Meanwhile, he’ll be left powerless, forced to bow to the Democrats and lift the government shutdown LMAO
>>519866631Oh, so you're completely delusional. Can't say I'm surprised. Lay off the fent Ching Chong and, as always, please enjoy your tariffs and lost marketshare.
>>519837278>He is doing this because his lawyers told him he is likely to lose in court. The U.S. government will have to repay billions of dollars extorted from other countries, a humiliating defeat for Trump and a major blow to his foreign policy agenda.He'll just pivot to earlier Trade Acts passed by Congress in 1962 and 1974 and keep the tariffs in place until a Red Wave gives him full control over Congress next year.You're not getting off the the hook that easily, you welfare queen Canuck cunts.
OP here. Check out this awesome meme drone show from Switzerland. https://x.com/WalkerAmerica/status/1982162691025166625
>>519866777We’ll see after the Supreme Court ruling, MAGA BOI. I’ll screenshot your comment and make a whole thread out of it lol
>>519866939>He'll just pivot to earlier Trade Acts passed by Congress in 1962 and 1974They are genuinely so dumb they have no idea Congress has authorized this across half a dozen statutes over the centuries. They legit have no idea that the US had tariffs for the vast majority of its existence. They unironically think this is new.
>>519867046Avatar posting is a bannable offense on this site, you stupid troon.
>>519867046You won't be here when SCOTUS rules. >>519853156
>>519842051that's real in your mind I'm sure
>>519867210DORO IS NOT AvatarNo need to say anything more. By the end of this year, there will be a thread with a screenshot of your comment lol
>>519839191You do realize Canada has no value other than tax incentives and lower wages than the US? Why do you think they are training us into Mexico of the North with pajeets?
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>>519837278this is a canadian spy glownigger threadwe don't care you dirty parasites, go eat tour jeet shit soup and bow to your monkey god, let him rescue you shit smeared canadian jeet trash shit government and other squalid fools.
>>519867513Not true. You have oil and gas in the west, but your liberal government won't let anyone drill, refine, or export it. You COULD have value, but because of your own poor decision making in kowtowing to the CCP/WEF green energy scam, you don't.
>>519867348Absolutely an avatar and a violation of Global Rule 13. Screenshot this, too, troon, lol.
>>519867843Unfortunately, that' is correct.
>>519868051Oh minerals too. Can't drill for those either cuz muh carbon and muh injun feelings. They picked berries on top of that lithium 600 years ago.
>>519837615>75 million for some bullshit ad in muttmericaFuck this country, genuinely this place is absolutely falling apart and these cock suckers piss money away on this? WHY DONT YOU HIRE SOME GOD DAMN POLICE TO REIGN IN THE SHITSKIN MENACE FUCKTARDS
>>519867237Stopped reading at line 2This time, Congress never delegated the power to the President to slap tariffs around however he wants. Can MAGA boys not tell the difference between their dreams and reality? The Democrats are currently extremely uncooperative with Trump and have triggered a government shutdown. And you’re saying those same Democrats delegated the power to impose tariffs to Trump? When exactly? What hour, minute, and second? Bring it on, MAGA BOI LMAOMAGA BOI, Enjoy the tantrum now, you’ll be watching your king tumble soon lol
>>519837278Nutlick's old hedge fund is actually buying the tariffs receipts for pennies on the dollar, anticipating they will be overturned. Even MSM is reporting this if you google it.Anyway, we will see the ruling definitely is not set. This court has surprised.
>>519868265Democrats don't control Congress, retard, the Republicans do. If they have a problem with it they can pass a law, they haven't. That is the EXACT fucking thing SCOTUS is going to say in their ruling.
All I know is since Trump started the tariff fight my imports of Japanese model kits and cultured comic books no longer wave import fees and I am paying like a hundred dollars more almost making the dollar to yen ratio worthless.
>>519868660Good. Stop being gay.
>>519868143They actually passed some law that somewhat limits native veto powers on "nation building projects". Still, any sane country would have started the process of mining the rare earth immediately after their discovery. Instead, we allow ourselves to get bogged down in red tape and Indians wanting retard economic growth to get paid off or just to be annoying.
>>519850888Was it also from Qatar?
>>519837615The quotes are completely in context you lying fuck. Migatards are insufferably stupid hero worshipping faggots.
>>519864326So why is Trump jerking off over Reagan instead of saying he had it wrong?God you magatards are a whole different level of jew cockmonglers... Trump could take a dump on your face and you'd somehow turn that into a positive. Every single day he contradicts himself and y'all just eat it all up for some reason. It's like half of the US has daddy issues or some shit.>>519867843And do what with it? Become a petrostate? Nah, I prefer what Norway is doing.
>>519852185They're a fool to do our dirty work, oh yeah.Wait...
>>519868521Nice try, MAGA BOI, but delegating power isn’t as easy as saying “I want it, SCOTUS will back me!” To actually delegate, both houses of Congress have to agree. And your king? He slapped tariffs around without any such law, thinking he could bend reality. Enjoy watching your dreams crash into reality LMAO
>>519851259Does that mean the mines are in China or does that count Chinese owned mines in Africa?
>>519837278>He is doing this because his lawyers told him he is likely to lose in court.Leaf lies. You scum are allergic to the truth, just like brits.>government will have to repay billions of dollars extorted from other countriesNo, that is not how it works subhuman.KYS leaf scum. We should have zero alliances and trade with Canada.
>>519868917>To actually delegate, both houses of Congress have to agreeWhich they did when they passed the half dozen statutes that delegates these powers to the President pursuint to Article 1 of the US Constitution. Congress has the power to amend or repeal any or all of those laws whenever it wants. Not only has it not done so it hasn't even attempted to do do.You lose. You get nothing. Good day sir. Enjoy your SCOTUS BTFO.
>>519838131Racist!Fascist!Tariffs are only bad when the U.S.A. does it!
>>519869233Silence is not consent. Why? Because Trump knew it was Congress’ power and deliberately went ahead without telling the Democrats a thing. That’s why his tariffs ended up all the way at SCOTUS. If the Democrats had actually consented, we wouldn’t even be waiting for a Supreme Court ruling. All your king did was grab a list on the lawn and babble for tens of minutes like a senile old man, “I’m slapping this much in tariffs!!” Some of the items on that list were even islands inhabited only by penguins. Your king needs to leave the White House which has turned into a cheap casino-like Gold House and go to a retirement home lol
>>519869589>Because Trump knew it was Congress’ powerWhat part of CONGRESS ALREADY DELEGATED THAT POWER TO THE PRESIDENT ACROSS HALF A DOZEN STATUTES, do you not understand?>and deliberately went ahead without telling the Democrats a thingHe doesn't fucking have to. Democrats don't control either House of Congress. Congress already gave him power and the current Congress has no desire or inclination to remove it from him. That is that. SCOTUS is going to tell you to get fucked and repeal or amend the existing statutes if you don't like it.
>>519845249Canadians have always been anti-American to their core. Have zero alliances and trade with them and leave them to rot.Similarly we shoudl have zero trade and alliances with the eurotrash.Also fuck China, we need to get to zero trade with them as well. I would take a little longer with the chinks, but zero should be the 10 year goal.
>>519846306Dog fuckers got American automotive companies to move there due to the dog fuckers tariffs. Dog fuckers do not even have free trade with other dog fucker provinces. Canadians and Europeans are the biggest leftist lying back stabbing theiving slandering scum to ever be.
>>519858858No. These are not part of a declared economic emergency. Literally what the fuck are you talking about
>>519869944Nice fairy tale, MAGA BOI. Those laws never explicitly authorized him to slap tariffs around however he pleased, and Democrats’ lack of control doesn’t mean he can play king on the lawn. Congress' power isn’t a suggestion, ignoring it is why we’re stuck waiting for SCOTUS
>>519840468Fuck you, we shoudl have national advertisments shit talking European and Candian products, just like their commie media does to us.We should also put a 10,000% VAT tax on their goods... herr derr it's not a tariff! Then we should put regulations all but banning their products due to "safety". If that is not enough, then we need to fine all of their companies for breathing, just like they do to US Companies. BTW, we should have zero trade with you spic garbage as well. You subhumans flood this country with spic garbage, which shoudl be exterminated at the border. However, you lying filthy rats coach the spics how to claim refugee status. I would exterminate the entire population of Mexico, just for you narco bullshit.
if the tariffs are reversed I think trump might kill himself
>>519837982Nothing's guaranteed.Technically, the constitution doesn't permit him to hold his current office. The supreme court just waived it and made it Congress' job to impeach him anyway.If the House goes blue, they can impeach and possibly annul the presidency. Republicans will claim they need to get the Senate (they won't have it until his term is over). That'll turn into a legal challenge and be resolved only by Democrats disregarding the Supreme Court (they lack the balls) or them reclaiming control of the budget and using it to neuter the Executive branch.We don't have precedent for this.
>>519838119You fucking idiots keep swapping what you think of tarrifs... in real time ... along with your fucking reddit tier propaganda.You just fucked this whole country over to "own drumpf" and everyone knows it.Like I would be embarrased that my country gave away 11 billion dollars to various "gender neutral study on rice" level things to launder money in foreign nations, except that I know far to many regular blue collar people now that lost their jobs/homes/future all because of this retarded shit you actual retards keep voting for.
>>519870414>Congress' power isn’t a suggestionCorrect, and the Congress can choose to remove the powers they have delegated to the President at any time. They have NOT, meaning SCOTUS stopping this, a Republican SCOTUS might I add, would be both an Article 1 and and Article 2 violation which there is a 0.00% fucking chance of them doing. You know nothing about US law. You are retarded and you lost.
>>519870744Actually I change my mind, if the tariffs are reversed and trump doesn’t “kill himself” then I fully believe all the freemason cia faggotry I’ve read about for years was an actual conspiracy, and America is just some lolz farm for aliens
Trump is using US Tariffs to bully other countries. He tried China and they bitch slapped him. Now he is going after someone who he knows cannot fight back.There’s not much to it than that. Here in the USA they are reopening the Belvedere Car Assembly plant and shuttering the Canadian production line that used to make it. So I’m happy about that.Of course this will likely destroy any form of goodwill around the world for short term gain but that’s kind of Trumps MO
>>519870893The MAGA BOI’s arguments are starting to bring tears to my eyes... Let’s get real, just because Congress could theoretically remove a power doesn’t mean it magically legitimizes unilateral abuse. Trump knew this was Congress’ authority and deliberately ignored them, which is exactly why this mess went to SCOTUS. No need for any more back-and-forth. Your delusions will be shattered within three months at most. By then, we’ll be laughing at you in the thread I created. I’m exiting this thread. it was fun, MAGA BOI. You’ll be the only one blind to reality, while anyone else reading our comments will see whose argument actually makes sense lol
>>519871405>doesn’t mean it magically legitimizes unilateral abuse.You know who gets to decide if it's abuse? Congress. No one else. Congress has not chose to stop it because Congress and the American people agree with him.What drugs are you on that make you think a Republican SCOTUS is going to override the authority of a Republican President, Republican House, and Republican Senate who are all in agreement?
>>519871405>Let’s get real, just because Congress could theoretically remove a power doesn’t mean it magically legitimizes unilateral abuse.THIS WAS WRITTEN BY AI
Leafs are fucking delusional. The President's powers as enumerated in the Constitution include imposing tariffs. There is no additional language in there about it being heckin' illegal if this upsets some gay NWO.Trump has a lock on this, and the tariffs just went UP. I'm forwarding your post to his team, OP, so they can see this and jump the tariffs up another 10% or more.
>>519839502>raise prices>sales go down>make less moneyYou've clearly gone to Common Core school, it sucks to be you. In the real world, you have a certain profit margin above the cost of the good or service, and by raising prices you will lose customers. It's better to sell 100 candy bars at $1 profit each than one at a $40 profit.
>>519837278The owners of America won't allow tariffs to be put on the goods they make abroad using slave labour. When you understand that America is just an experiment and not a country and that experiment is about how you can enslave humanity then it will all make a lot more sense to you. There are no "American people" outside of the quarantined native population. Everyone is from different parts of the world and they don't swear allegiance to the people, they swear allegiance to the nation.That's what it means to be a Republic, it means anyone can be a citizen as long as they swear allegiance to the flag.Just like Rome.
>>519871378>other countries tariffing America is good>America tariffing other countries is badYou sound like a moron.
Why would tariffs have anything to do with SCOTUS? Don't they just deal with cases relating to the Constitution? Is this just another lie on the internet?
>>519876361Lefties are suing and since it's an Article 1 and Article 2 question, regarsing foreign trade (a federal matter) and not a specific district, SCOTUS is the only one with authority to rule on it. That being said though Trump is 100% going to win because Congress delegated these powers to the President through hundreds of years of existing statutes, the Congress themselves are in agreement with the President, and SCOTUS has already ruled on this exact same scenario numerous times in the past (spoiler: the sitting President's actions are considered lawful under Congressional statute.) Them thinking SCOTUS is going to save them from both Trump and Congress is either weapons grade hopium, a complete ignorance of how the US system of separations of power works, or both. It ain't happening, Canada is fucked.
>>519876361SCOTUS will take up any arbitrary case that can be used to implement their preferred policy outcomes. Things like standing and precedent are memes for suckers. Half the lawyers bringing these cases work for and meet regularly with their staffers if not outright the Justices themselves.It is essentially an unelected super legislature with the power and authority to nullify congress and the constitution and can construct its own laws by decree. They will 100% cuck Trump if they feel like it.
