Invited: Brit/pol/, Kraut/pol/, etc.Do you agree that Europe should be a united and strong superpower? If Europe works together we could become more powerful than China or even the USA.
>>519841176Gayrope.
>>519841176The ewwwwwropean jewnion never had any idea of being independent. Its just a political machine that makes it easier to control it by americans. The NATO secretary calls trump "daddy". How gayer can this get?
>>519841176I found this somewhere
>>519841334I'm not reading all thatAnyway I just think that Trump's presidency proves that the US-Europe alliance is basically dead now. Trump and his colleagues clearly don't care at all about Europe. So I think European countries should work together to better protect ourselves and serve our own interests.
Funding moment of new Union. With german industry crippled this can finally start to work.All we need is to replace Ursula with someone based
>>519841397another then>kek
>>519841437>All we need is to replace Ursula with someone basedWho would you rather have in that position? I suppose it could be someone from eastern Europe like Radek Sikorski or Kaja Kallas - they seem to be more resolute when they say that Russia's invasion of Ukraine is wrong and should be opposed.
>>519841176We should have close economic and defence cooperation, but no political integration. Go back to the EEC, and kick out the zionists.
>>519842145>We should have close economic and defence cooperation, but no political integration.Why not political integration? Think about it this way. The UK is never going to be a world-leading power by itself ever again, it's just not possible. But Europe together CAN be a world-leading power. Europe's population is larger than that of the US, so I think Europe could potentially be more powerful than the US. But if you want a powerful Europe then that probably means removing barriers between European countries and working together as a single entity, instead of having different parts of Europe bickering between each other.
>>519842260We already have political integration and all its led to is the eu being anglokike slaves. Disband the eu and hang any cunt that supports it
>>519841769No idea, Radek sounds reasonable but remember - his wife is american jew from 'elite '. I don't think he should be trusted that position. Kaja kallas would be nice to be my fuck friend but that's it.Sadly I don't know anybody that would fit, is there somebody in the uk maybe?
>>519842260>Why not political integration?See the EU and it's leaders.>The UK is never going to be a world-leading power by itself ever againGood. During Brexit, I was told by the remainers that I was a little Englander, and that I'd never get my empire back. They then told me that if we left the EU we'd lose our seat at the big boy table, so it was them that missed the empire all along, not me. I don't want to lead the world, we did that before, and the consequences have been disastrous. What's good for a Cornish tin miner isn't necessarily good for a Portuguese fisherman, this is what causes the bickering, and it won't stop. We can cooperate on trade when it's mutually beneficial to individual members, and negotiate with third parties as a unified trading bloc when it benefits all members.
>>519842843*its leaders
>>519841176yes under a rightwing leadership no under the pack of leftwing open border traitor politicans we have right now
A strong and unified Europe leading the world is the future. Nobody else can take the mantle of the leader of the free world.Now you chuds just need to leave your home and get a job so we can achieve it.
>>519841176>Do you agree that Europe should be a united and strong superpower?If Hitler is the leader yes.
EU is corrupt female bitchez grifting to high heavenBelgium is the mafia state keeping it goingthere is no hope for it
>>519843544Drop the VPN Vladimir. You russians really are clueless as to how obvious you are when you are copeposting.
Only if I can say the nigger word
>>519841176Delusional nonsense. It's all empty rah-rah. Do your homework before posting this garbage.
>>519842380>the eu being anglokike slavesIf the EU decides to build itself up then the EU will no longer have to be slaves to Anglos in the US.>>519842402Personally I don't care if someone is Jewish or not. Yeah I think Radek sounds reasonable, I have seen him talk on a British interview programme.>is there somebody in the uk maybeFirst we'd need mainstream British politicians who want the UK to rejoin the EU. The two biggest parties in the UK don't seem to want to rejoin the EU at the moment. I think the Lib Dems want to rejoin but they're polling in 4th place currently.
>>519841437>german industry crippledWestern Allies propped it up after WWII again, because without it Europe is toast. Now that it crumbles, Europe will sink.
>>519841176Eurofed yes.Petty nationalism no.Need to bulk up to compete with USA and china.We wuz romans.Simple as.
>>519842843>I don't want to lead the worldRealpolitik dictates that we're either powerful or we're pushed around by those who are.>What's good for a Cornish tin miner isn't necessarily good for a Portuguese fishermanMany countries have both miners and fishermen, but those countries can still succeed.>>519843018You can vote for who you want in the EU parliament of course. If you want more right-wing politicians then you can vote for them. Also I think the EU commission president should be directly elected by EU citizens. It would make the EU more democratic.>>519843377Hitler has been dead for a long time.>>519845647At the moment there seems to be a big shift in US-Europe relations. For a long time, Europe could depend on the US. That no longer seems to be the case. So over time we might see increasing numbers of leading European politicians who say "let's be less dependent on the US, let's build up industry and defence in Europe so we can be more independent".
>>519843544>straight white woman>married to a straight white man>has six white childrenAsians hate this.
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>>519846442That's not at all what I'm saying. What I said in the OP is that Europe "could" potentially become more powerful than the USA, but that would only happen if Europe works together in a united manner.But even if Europe doesn't want to be the number 1 superpower, it still makes sense for Europe to work more closely together, since the US now seems to want to abandon its traditional ties with Europe. Europe should probably try to be more independent of the US rather than dependent on it.
>>519841176No, strife has alwats been what made Europe strong.China was united, the Incas were united, Japan was. We crushed them all, one of us versus all of them.Unison just shares the weakness, makes as strong as the weakest link, facilitates contagion.
>>519845760>Radek sounds reasonableFucking whew lad. Yes, let's sabotage our industries and then take the fight to Russia.>>519845915>we're either powerful or we're pushed around by those who areBy your own admission, we're no longer powerful, and we never will be again. We'll continue to be pushed around by America whether we're in the EU or not, we'll be pushed around by the EU whether we're a member or not. If there was a European alliance based on trade and military cooperation, it might work, but that too would be run by corrupt, power-hungry morons, so it wouldn't work.>but those countries can still succeed.Not in an increasingly bloated EU, run by the corrupt and inept, as it is.>It would make the EU more democratic.Lol. Even an EU shill admits that it isn't democratic.>>519846785>Europe should probably try to be more independent of the US rather than dependent on it.This I agree with, but we don't need a corrupt and incompetent political union to achieve it.
>>519841176Communist shithole. Please take a bath with your toaster.
>>519846442You entered the Europe thread as an American, to announce how you don't care about Europe.
>>519846989>corruptYou keep using this word, hoping that if you use it enough it would become true. No, Europe is not and will never become corrupt unlike your homeland russia.
Death to EUDeath to NATO
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Europe should expand the treaty of Lisbon into an EU army then boot NATO.Never understood why so much of Europe wants to be assfucked by Americans so much. Especially after the Gladio shit came out showing that NATO was behind shit like the Years of Lead and Brabant.
>>519841176I feel like the EU is more than a "economic" union, i mean it has its own sites, domains, products display the union flag instead of the country it originates, every single vehicle plate in the EU has the EU logo on it, ik this sounds retarded af but if it was just an economic union it wouldn't have all of those things.
>western Europe ruining their countries by importing millions of savages for a couple of decadesEastern Euros need to get the fuck away from us as soon as possible, don't let it happen to you.
>>519841176Maybe. But not under the gayssr aka EU
>>519847958WHAT DO WE DO WHAT DO WE DO
>>519847283You are on EU welfare lmao
>>519841176>even the USA.Kek, no. Dream on.
>>519841307>>519841215Netto-Verdienst bros how you holding up?
>>519841176>Do you agree that Europe should be a united and strong superpower?what is the dominant ideology of the EU though? It seems to be some kind of talmudic socialism
>>519841176Alliance : yesGay Bolshevik Union : no
>>519846989>sabotage our industriesI don't believe that. I believe the opposite; we should build up European industry. But anyway yes I think Radek Sikorski sounds reasonable because he recognises the threat that Russia poses to Europe.>We'll continue to be pushed around by America whether we're in the EU or not, we'll be pushed around by the EU whether we're a member or not.Think about this. Are Texas and California pushed around by the federal US government to some extent? Perhaps. But they recognise that being part of the wider US gives them a lot of benefits. Tech workers in California can sit at their desks and make technology that benefits the US, and they are protected by US soldiers who might come from Texas, Ohio, wherever.>Even an EU shill admits that it isn't democratic.The EU is arguably just as democratic as the UK is, although both could be more democratic.>This I agree with, but we don't need a corrupt and incompetent political union to achieve it.The UK on its own is more likely to get pushed around by the US than Europe as a whole is, because the UK is smaller.>>519847065Fuck off>>519847283Why? Let me guess, you blame the EU and NATO for Kosovan independence
>>519853122No fuck off we are Nationalist we don't want a globohomo bis at smaller scale. Rope yourself glownigger.
>>519852915It would naturally be that of a strong white nationalism, freedom and the denouncement of judeism and islam.
>>519847467I think Europe wanted to have US might involved in defending Europe, but now the US doesn't want to help defend Europe, so Europe might have to build up its own capabilities.>>519847690>>519848098>>519853064>>519852915The modern EU is a political union as well as an economic union. If you don't like the current leadership of the EU though then you can vote for different members of the EU parliament. The current third largest group in the EU parliament is Patriots for Europe, made up of parties like National Rally from France, Fidesz from Hungary, Lega from Italy, Vox from Spain, etc. If they win the next EU election then I guess someone like Marine Le Pen could become the next EU commission president.>>519849926It's obviously not going to happen soon, but if Europe makes the right decisions, it could happen decades down the line.
>>519853255You could support European nationalism if you wanted - Europe altogether being a nation. And I'm not a glowie. I wish I was paid for my posts but I'm not.
>>519853591>European nationalism>hurr durr Im a fucking retard with 70 iQKys
>>519853515>if Europe makes the right decisionsThey won't. Over-regulation stifles innovation and there's no signs that the EU will reverse course on that.Consider this. The economic powerhouse of Europe, Germany, has about the same GDP per capita as the poorest US states. Let that sink in.>Europe altogether being a nation~30 countries, different languages and cultures. Yeah, not gonna happen.
>>519847401That is crazy
