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Latest wunderwaffe just dropped. No other country in the world has nuclear-powered missiles. Nuclear-powered propulsion means it has a global (infinite) range similar to a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.
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>>519846118
does this thing spread deadly radiation along its path?
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>>519846118
>pidors can only create weapons of destruction
Third world tier shithole.
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>>519846272
by definition yes
it's an easily detectable slow moving idiocy
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Patriots will intercept them all
t. NAFO tranny
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>>519846118
Nuclear powered missiles and thousands of disposable subhumans. Ruskies have it all.
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>>519846118
>inviting an instant nuclear response

Genius move.
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>>519846118
Your crossposted this on /k/ and they were not impressed.
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>>519846118
>nuclear powered
>cruise missile
>only pictures
>NOT A VIDEO IN SIGHT
>NO LIVESTREAM OF A NUKE EVER BEING TESTED
>NOTHING BUT PICTOGRAMS
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>519846597
Ah yes, I've never seen a Lion or an Orangutan irl just pictures and videos, that means they're not real.
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>>519846533
it's exclusively nuclear armed. it's an asymmetrical response to the us' proposed space-based missile defense.
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>>519846597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFTEv0hSAgc
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>>519846118
Are they saying this dick will be a better president than Putin?
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>>519846768
The Americans have had orbital kill the entire planet shit for decades. Tic tacs aren't aliens. The question is WHICH Americans actually control those things.
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>>519846118

>the little brother of the Samovar

Heh.
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>>519846118
This thing can be in the air for days. It might be very useful to launch it before an important meeting and let it roam for a while.
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>>519846597
>flag
>low iq post
expected
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>>519846272
>>519846118
Wasn’t this Project Pluto? The insane WMD that no one made because it was terrifying and would destroy everything?
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>>519846118
is this one of these retarded things the russians pretend to have in order to make the americans waste billions trying to replicate it?
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>>519846580
it's quite impressive. a relatively small nuclear-powered cruise missile is a hard concept to get working. combined with satellite elint, it can be programmed to avoid radar emissions, so it'll be very hard to intercept when you factor in its unlimited range.

the issue i have with it is that it'll lead to intense localized fallout upon detonation with an airburst, which will make a relatively large area uninhabitable for humans (unless they bulldoze the contaminated surface away, which isn't easy to do).
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>>519846118
So it does the same job as an ICBM but instead of taking half an hour to reach the target it takes ten hours to reach the target?
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>>519846990
or, you know, you could use an ICBM that can also reach anywhere on earth, is several times faster, essentially impossible to intercept, and very likely cheaper.
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>>519846580
k are subverted fags that hate russia
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>>519846941
>that no one made
oh you sweet summer child
and no, Pluto was much cooler, it was supposed to carry megaton warheads, plural, and lay them down as it went along
at the expected CEP it could have not been used as anything except a city-killer, a weapon of last resort
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>>519846768
>asymmetrical response
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>russians launch it
>flies over russia
>spews radiation all over the place
lol
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>>519847048
like poseidon, this will be a backup in the event the us develops highly effective icbm/slbm missile defense.
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>>519847048
You mean the minute men that were built in the 60s and are about 5 engineering revolutions behind what we have today, the ones that arent backwards compatible with no tech, with no one alive who built them and barely anyone can even work on them, and when they do try to work on them, even the tools dont fucking fit?

Half of them arent even going to work bro
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>>519847099
The idea was that we didn’t want to push the Soviets to make one by making our own, so while both were aware of the concept they just left it on the drawing board.
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>>519847133
they actually don't release all that much at any single point in space when cruising. the issue is the enhanced fallout at the target's location.
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>>519847215
Half of those minute men arent going to launch people at the pentagon know it. Its too expensive to upgrade them and they dont want to come out and admit that more than half of the USA's ICBMs wont fire because the enemy cannot find out.
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>>519846990
It's not impressive. The Americans built this crap in the 1950s. It IS, however, dangerous to China.
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>>519846118
>watch out for monke with a big plastic bag of wet poop
>monke is crazy and will throw it.
>better placate the monke and give in to his demands, or he will throw it
>but you can trust him not to demand more after that.
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>>519846475
>>under 100m altitude
>it's an easily detectable
lmao.

What makes it good is what you can send it away from, say, russian Ural Mountains across the pacific oceans and make it to enter the Muttmerica airspace from the side of Mexico, where nobody is expecting missile attack from.
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all the worst nuclear disasters happened in russia
this is just another one waiting to happen
russian niggers shouldn't be allowed to have such tech, for their own good
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>>519846118
Isn't flight altitude a bit less? Nuclear powered nuclear missile. We should be able to hit anywhere with laser beams. Entire cities destroyed to the ground in a matter of seconds after firing.
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>>519846118
Putin first revealed the missile’s development in 2018, describing it as a one-of-a-kind weapon that does not follow a ballistic trajectory, rendering existing missile defense systems ineffective. He noted that its unlimited range allows it to maneuver indefinitely. Speaking to Gerasimov, the president reiterated that the Burevestnik is a “unique product that no one else in the world has,” while stressing that “much work” remains before it can be placed on combat alert.

“We will need to more thoroughly define what class of weapon this new system belongs to, determine possible methods of use, and begin preparing the infrastructure for its deployment within our armed forces,” Putin said. He added that all key testing objectives for the missile have now been achieved.

:O
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>>519846390
>>519846475
>>519846506

looks like new weapon has the nato bots angy :3
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>>519847225
Might as well dust off those blueprints and add cobalt-salted warheads with the modern electronics. Fuck these snowniggers to hell and beyond.
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>>519846990
New Deal 2.0
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>>519847455
Good morning saar
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>>519847294
What was the last time Russia dishonored any agreement? The more we cucked out, the bolder the west became.
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>>519847440
>all the worst nuclear disasters happened in russia
Like Fukushima disaster?
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>>519847646
>Fukushima
>worst nuclear disaster
Russian “education”
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>>519847494
This weapon makes Muttmerica more reachable, of course bots are angry. Ocean is no longer a good enough protection.
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Pretty retarded to make these if you have a functional navy or air force that can launch traditional cruise missiles. So I guess it kinda makes sense for Russia to invest in this. Conceptually cool tho.
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>>519846118
>Americans had one of these 50 years ago and realized how shit it is
Another one for my Russian cringe compilation
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>>519847517
Putin waited for years for US to agree on nuclear disarmament. His patience is not infinite.
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>>519847834
technology advances and old ideas become viable again.
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>>519846118
>NUCLEAR POWERED CRUISE MISSILE
What is that even supposed to mean? Does it have an electric propeller or does it produce thrust by ejecting hot steam what?
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>>519847834
Don't you wish you were still a British colony?
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>>519846787
gay vid doeant show anything, i liked that show Voyenmaya Priyemka or whatever the fuck it was.
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>>519848002
Russia is not advancing technologically
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>>519847037
Icbms, unless the payload is a meneuvering hypersonic glide vehicle are easy to track. Cruise missiles can use terrain masking, maneuver etc.
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>>519847037
Yes. Meanwhile the USA has nuclear warheads in space
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>>519846862
Thats a man
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>>519848002
Maybe, but icbm's are brutally hard to defend against simply due to their speed.
Just because you can see a hypersonic missile easier doesn't really mean much when they're so fucking hard to shoot down.
Maybe someone will actually come through with this laser defense meme but I get the feeling if it's feasible today then the Jews would be using it all the time. Seeing as they're not even trying I think it's still got a long way to get operational
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>>519846118
I’m sure more range will help russia take over kiev. At this rate he’ll need everything he can get if he’s at a stalemate to cheap drones.
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>>519847225
>The idea was that we didn’t want to push the Soviets to make one by making our own
this is not how MAD works, at all
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>>519847357
>literally glows satellite blinding gamma rays
>undetectable
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>>519846118
Seems like a vanity project with zero impact on the course of the war or what am I missing?
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>>519847457
>have new weapon
>have no idea how to deploy it or when you would ever want to employ it
many such cases!
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>>519847900
You mean Putin dindu nuffin?
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>>519848508
Free my nigga putin! They all rusophobic!
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>>519847900
There will be no nuclear disarmament, idiot.
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>>519846390
Are there any weapons of construction
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>>519846118
>range: unlimited
because by god if we want to circle the earth and hit our ass we find a way!
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>>519849372
Unironically, yes.
>God created man, Sam Colt made them equal.
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>>519846118
The USA had those in the 50s or 60s. The USA never went full scale production, because it left a trail of nuclear waste spewing out of it.
Russians are subhumans
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>>519846118
Sweet - make it do 6,000,000 orbits and then hit Tel Aviv.
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>>519847357
Funny how Russian subhumans always think they are smart, but Russian subhumans like like filthy niggers.
The USA should just kill all of you. If someone like me ever gets into office, then all of you are dead. You useless animals always talk about killing Americans and threatening Americans... it is very simple we must kill all of you.
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>>519846990
Unless it drops the nuclear reactor before target destination reached, similar to a warp core ejection from Star Trek.
Ejected reactor/engine can have its own parachute system...
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>>519849776
based, I want to see the spectacle of half a million of the bastards lining the road to the blasted ruin of Moscow with their heads on pikes.
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>>519846118
For what reason does it need to fly for that long?
>range unlimited
For all intents and purposes the conventional ICBMs already have this range. So what's this for? It must have a substantial nuclear reactor in order to fly for 15+ hours or whatever the max endurance is. So if it has a conventional payload it should be treated as a pseudo nuclear weapon due to its reactor being radioactive and that being involved in the missile's explosion, not in a nuclear sense, but contamination nonetheless.
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>>519847440
>all the worst nuclear disasters happened in russia
I'm glad you agree Ukraine is Russia. Simply returning the land back.
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>>519846118
i heard it was in the air for 16 hours. ultimate deterrence weapon.
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>>519849372
A hammer,an axe...
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>>519849776
Your faggot nation is waging war against us, as we speak, talking about peace while preparing invasion into Venezuela, its only natural for russian chads to despise you, mutt subhumans. Total Mutt Death.
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>>519850359
>For what reason does it need to fly for that long?
presumably it would be launched at a time of imminent attack
if things go well, the thing ditches into the sea
if they go not so well (woodpecker silent, radio Moskwa off the air) then it heads for a major population center of the adversary
since a nuclear war is expected to last a few days/weeks, that's how long these missiles need to stay airborne
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>>519846118
why bother with cruise missiles when you can park a submarine anywhere in the world and launch. are they stupid?
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>>519846118
That sounds like project Pluto which the US abandoned because they believed it too be too aggressive of a weapon.
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>>519846118
there wont be a russia in 2027
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>>519846390
you are a cia glowie with a VPN, not a real russian.
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>>519849533
Apparently this is a closed loop like they have on the submarines.
Slam was not closed loop so it spew radiation everywhere.
Which means Russians have made strides in miniaturizing nuclear reactors for jet use.
Which is kinda amazing especially for drones and shit that can loiter indefinitely.
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>>519846597
Because the US know it works as it is not hard to achieve they had a similar design in the 60 that worked.
That is 60 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto
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>>519850741
Waging war? No, we really aren't, that's the funny part. It's a proxy war, the proxy is your former vassal, and you cannot manage to defeat them. We are not losing hundreds of casualties a week, you stupid faggots are. We are busy rebuilding our stockpiles as the older Cold War-era gear has proven okay-ish with some standouts, but ultimately inadequate for the 2030s.
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>>519850359
So you can launch thousands of them and then they hit simultaneously from all sides, including flying through unprotected zones and then hitting from inside perimeter.
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>>519846118
I mean, it's nice and all. But why? Don't they already have ICBMs?
What is the strategic use of a relatively slow moving vehicle for warheads?
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>>519851023
Even if it is shot down it will spew nuclear material everywhere.
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>>519847099
You could also after dropping the payload simply ram it into another target.
And it noise at a level even below top speed that could kill humans in a few hundred meters around it.
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>>519851095
How? It would be a very local nuclear spill without any explosive force to aerosolise the nuclear material.
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>>519850847
>believed it too be too aggressive
this is an oft-repeated lie but a lie nonetheless
it was shelved because other, scarier, cheaper weapons were devised
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>>519847357
>hits a small hill or even a hole above sea level because 1600km/h is too fast to stop
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>>519847599
The one in which you guaranteed Ukraine's security in exchange for their nukes comes to mind.
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>>519848006
Yes let’s dissect secret military technologies on pol as it’s publicly available of course
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>>519850935
>kinda amazing
it's old tech for them, look up RORSAT
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>>519846735
This. Also I've never seen my own asshole
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>>519848006
If it is similar to the old project it is a ramjet, you don't need fuel in that regard, you only need to heat the air inside to increase its volume.
In that regard after an initial startup and reaching the required minimum speed for the ramjet to work you only need a heat exchanger that heats the air.
So no propeller or combustion required.
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>>519851133
you could but that would be inefficient
more likely you would not launch the last warhead, but detonate it onboard for a last nice big dirty blast
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>>519851247
Well I would say additional factor instead of lie.
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>>519846475
You think that because you are dumb and lack imagination. This isn't an attack missile. You launch this and just rip sweet infinite demoralization donuts in the sky above your enemy. Just screeching and shitting out radiation as it autistically screams I circles.
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>>519846118
>More stupid weapons of mass destruction
God I fucking hate humanity, we never learn
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>>519850359
Conventional ICBM's set off early warning systems - alert satellites and high altitude warning radars. They leave the atmosphere, fly in space/Low earth orbit in a ballistic trajectory, and come screaming down to earth (usually with multiple independently targeted seperated warheads) at mach 10+ in the terminal phase

A cruise missile can travel 20 feet or less off the ground and correct for terrain, fly between mountains, etc
This is why you keep hearing about hypersonics - ICBM's are by nature hypersonic - as are some anti aircraft missiles but not what they are talking about, they mean hypersonic cruise missiles - they can go over mach 5 at low altitudes and are har to track and detect, harder to shoot down

>>519850838
You can put the cruise missile on a submarine, that being said subs can be tracked and there are underwater, permanent means of detecting submarines all over the world with varying degrees of accuracy. The US might be able to know theres a Russian sub within a 40 mile radius of a map blip because of this, and naturally if they detect a launch within that radius they know what it is.
You can launch a cruise missile that sea skims 10 ft off the deck from a remote ass location with a mobile launcher and scoot away. The lower the altitude the harder it is to pick up on radar
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>>519851320
That included respecting the remaining Russian population and language as well as no NATO east expansion.
Merkel herself admitted that shit like Minsk were lies to arm Ukraine for war with Russia.
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>>519846118
The United States made one of these during the cold war not only was it a nuclear powered nuclear cruise missile it also shit out smaller nuclear missiles
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>>519846118
>nuclear
Meaningless. Nuclear powers won't fight each other.
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>>519851436
it is a bald-faced lie nevertheless
those were the days of MAD, the equilibrium of terror seen as the highest level of state policy
the idea that a weapon or system was ditched for being "too scary" while both sides were making plans for world-ending gigaton weapons is just laughable
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>>519851320
They never had any nukes. Same case as Turkey never having American nukes in their posession while nukes were placed on their territory.
And Budapest memorandum is non-binding, according to the west. Meanwhile, hohols broke the promise about remaining neutral.
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>>519851483
>The lower the altitude the harder it is to pick up on radar
you realize radiation can be seen from satellites right
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>>519846118
>means it has a global (infinite) range
cool stuff but what about mechanical wear
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>>519851772
I still love the idea.
Imagine they had expanded it and avoided contamination, we could have jets flying for days without refueling.
The had like 23000kg payload for a Cruise missile weighing like 91000kg.
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>>519849372
shovel ?
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>>519851964
Reminds of how the Cuba crisis actually started.
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>>519850359
unlimited cruise along and across international waters
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>>519846118
1000km/h is kinda slow, it can be intercepted ?
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>>519846118
The US already invented this and rejected it because it is a retarded device. of course inbred ziggers double down
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>>519847099
it would be quite handy to have some of that in storage somewhere undisclosed just in case
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>850-1300km/h
Wow. Totally a game changer. Not at all going to get shot to shit if they ever dared use them.
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i can tell you are all dumb and young. we had this in 61.Project Pluto was a United States government program to develop nuclear-powered ramjet engines for use in cruise missiles. Two experimental engines were tested at the Nevada Test Site (NTS) in 1961 and 1964 respectively. On 1 January 1957, the U.S. Air Force and the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission
it was canned over fears of mass raditation spills
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>>519848460
>>literally glows satellite blinding gamma rays
Apparently not
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>>519852253
project pluto. 1960s
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>>519852071
both sides experimented with nuclear powered bombers to some extent, indirect cycle turbojets and/or turbofans
it never progressed beyond studies and prototypes because reliable solid-fueled ICBMs were supposed to do all that and more cheaper
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>>519852066
I'm pretty sure the U.S. has nuclear powered missiles. I think they're using a different kind of nuclear reaction, but it's still nuclear.
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>>519848483
war is disposing of unwanted citizen units
military industrial compley is milking money with fancy new technologies
replacement of ethnic native population commences
total media control prevents mass panic and uprising
total digital surveillance state is being implemented in the uk turning it into open air prison island
usa somehow starting a war with venezuela without declaration of war
venezuela is usa's ukraine
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>>519847517
I'm afraid you've ...
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>>519852285
even during START II days of world peace, flower power and kumbayah the notion of _deployed_ nuclear weapons was very narrow
now, of course, anything goes
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>>519852286
because thats totally the actual real max and min speed of the new military technology because why not directly send the blueprints to your opponent ?
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>>519852033
You realize satellites can't track a target moving anywhere remotely close to mach 1 right and no radioisotope detector is designed to snap track a moving missile.

Nuclear Jet engines don't produce the excess radiation that you would think - they dont "burn" nuclear materiel, it just powers the turbine - to spin and generate thrust.
You would probably be more likely to detect the nuclear materiel in the warhead, you know when it's static
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>>519852665
... lost the technology
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>>519846118
>INFINITE RANGE
As if you couldn't already destroy the planet 20 times over.
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>>519850700
>>519852105
Those are tools that sometimes get used as weapons. By definition there is no weapon that constructs something they all destroy that is their purpose.
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>>519846118
how we know this is propaganda with just a tiny amount of critical analysis... "range: unlimited." ... but still we get many people considering the "implications" and "what-if" conversation. moving on.
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>>519852404
The US also had projects to develop nuclear powered strategic bombers. Tldr it worked, nuclear turbojets work, just not good enough at the time, too much maintenance and worries about spillage and damage/crashes - there's also the other concern that to make a nuclear afterburning turbojet you need a way to ignite the air - a nuclear engine can power a spark plug/ignitor, but nuclear fuel can't be used as a direct propellant - so it would involve introducing conventional fuel to the mix inorder to afterburn and achieve supersonic speeds - by the time the tech was realized we were already in the era of the supersonic strategic bomber a la B-58 Hustler and Tu-22 Blinder
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>>519852985
>I am so autistic I get tripped up by journalistic hyperbole
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>You realize satellites can't track a target moving
Apparently all planets and meteoroids in space are just perfectly stationary otherwise satellites wouldn't be able to see them. I guess mach 1 is too fast even for the human eye. That makes sense, if it's faster than sound, how can we see it?
>no radioisotope detector is designed to snap track a moving missile.
Why are we tracking missiles when we're tracking the leftover radiation.

Mutt brain disorder I swear
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>>519853055
>maintenance
fun factoid, gas bearings were developed specifically for gyroscopes that LTV SLAM would have used for navigation, since any plastics would have been wrecked by radiation way too fast
later they were used in magnetic hard drives
talk about peace dividends, eh
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That's 1950s tech. Also it doesn't drop 16 nukes unlike the SLAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VaxiJn_JwQ&t=58s
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>>519852433
You mean wunderwafnik is flying with a 10cm layer of lead?
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>>519850935
It not. Also nuclear batteries have been used in satellites for decades.
russians are just stupid niggers, like Nazis talking about their wonder weapons. Funny how these useless snow niggers became fascists, while crying every 5 minutes about fascism. Funny thing, Russians are supposedly smarter than niggers, but they act like useless niggers. At least the niggers have an ultra low IQ as an excuse. Russians are just pieces of shit, like chinks, but not as developed as chinks.
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>>519853272
it really pisses me off that most of these popsci materials use an outdated sketch of a possible future SLAM
it would have not looked anything like that, it had a ramscoop inlet and waverider nose for fucks sakes, they called it the flying crowbar because it fucking looked like a flying crowbar
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Can someone explain me what's the point of making engine that allows missile to flow farther, if current classical missiles can already reach USA and China?
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>>519853602
>>519850837
as monkebanan is fond of saying, there is no point for a world to exist that doesn't have Russia in it
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>>519853375
Well apparently not, it's unshielded
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>>519851020
>you can launch thousands of them
Is Vovan Putin-Shelomov selling his castles and yachts, Sergay? Where else will you get the money needed from? And how long would it take to produce THOUSANDS of them?
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>>519850935
ELI5 closed loop
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>>519853440
>Malding in fear
Tastes GOOOOOOOD
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>>519853062
"jounalistic". the belief is strong with this one. next youre going to tell me that sadam really did have wmd's because thats what the journalists told you.
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>>519853926
Saddam really did have WMDs. HATO sold him some Sarin and Sarin accessories back when he was fighting the evil Iranians. When he acquihired Gerald Bull and started talking about holding Israel at risk with chemical artillery to offset the heebs' nukes, things changed a bit for him.
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>>519853272
>The Supersonic Low Altitude Missile or SLAM was a U.S. Air Force nuclear weapons project conceived around 1955, and cancelled in 1964.
>it never proceeded beyond the initial design and testing phase before being declared obsolete
So basically
>My dream rocket is better than your real rocket
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>>519853602
Being able to gloat russia stronk. Submarines already loiter for months and can fire normal cruise missiles that don't shoot gamma rays visible from every radioactivity sensor hundreds of kilometres in its path without even needing to shine radar on it.
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>>519853272
>>519854185
>Although a prototype of the airframe was never constructed, the SLAM was to be a wingless, fin-guided aircraft; its appearance giving it the nickname "Flying Crowbar".
TOP KEK
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>>519853602
It can fly around so you can attack America from Mexico or sink an American ship near Venezuela from Africa and claim you don't know anything about anything
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>>519847163
Pretty much, it fills a very niche role but a important one.
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>>519854313
No, because first of all - launches of missiles are being tracked. Doesn't matter where they go.
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>>519853114
Eurofag state propaganda education system everyone. Maybe you should stop smoking so much fucking weed.
You can observe a satelite in space moving 17,500 MP/H (28,00 KM/H) in orbit around the earth yet you can't observe a bullet flying in the air a few feet away flying 2,200 MP/H? Why is that?

Also
v = √GM/R

A sateliite makes full orbit around the earth in 90 minutes, it has a static time on target (ToT) observation capapability of >~20 minutes before it has to hand over observation to another satellite - and this is just for a static/low speed tracking applications. Satellites also have to penetrate cloud cover/storms/ etc to observe.
The missile, to the satellite, is like the bullet you would be trying to observe mid air, and the satellite is a moving observer, travelling at 28,000km/h.

>Why are we tracking missiles when we're tracking the leftover radiation.
You detect the leftover radiation hours after the missile has hit its intended target then???
Also >>519852775
You keep operating under the assumption that a nuclear turbojet emits vast amounts of radiation, you're are more likely to detect the warhead.

We have satellites solely detected to tracking ICBM and exo-atmo launches. Theres ALOT of them, they watch known ICBM bases and rocket launch sites 24/7 as well as Biokonur Cosmodrome - it's also the reason Russia and China deploy road mobile ICBM's alongside submarines - they will be detected later than a silo launched payload
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>>519854313
>Launch 2 at the same time
>They think it's 1
>The regular one crashes after 2 min
>Burevestnik loiters for days
>Some country like Pakistan tests rockets
>Burevestnik strikes America
>Maybe it was Pakistan idk (shrugs banan)
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>>519854594 meant for >>519854405
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>>519853114
>>519854473
To compound on this this is also why we use radar and IRST (Infrared Search & Track) to detect missiles - ground bases radar stations, naval AEGIS radar and airborne AWACS and early warning radar aircraft (or even balloons)

>Why don't we just put radar on a satellite
Radar operates on varying wavelengths simultaneously, some of which are incapable of penetrating the exo-atmosphere and thus return back to sender (painting the satellite with its own radar) ie radar-return.Those that can penetrate the atmosphere still have a radar return refraction problem. Satellites with radar intended to observe the earth will be in very low earth Orbit to mitigate some of these effects - but they are still moving ~28,000km/h, ie they will not be in the same position to catch a radar return, someone else has to catch it - or they emit the widest, least accurate radar detection radius as possible for a chance to catch their own return
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>>519849776
>Funny how Russian subhumans always think they are smart, but Russian subhumans like like filthy niggers.
>The USA should just kill all of you. If someone like me ever gets into office, then all of you are dead. You useless animals always talk about killing Americans and threatening Americans... it is very simple we must kill all of you.
Why do jeets always talk in this bloviating way?
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>>519854405
Oh so you can track one of our submarines launching a tomahawk cruise missile on the other side of the world, from underwater then and without your submarines/navy in its vicinity?
Now imagine that Tomahawk, which can fly 30feet off the ground, in between mountain ranges, etc - not only carries a nuclear warhead like the TLAM-N but has a practically unlimited distance.
Detecting missile launches is for ICBM's, cruise missiles are another animal entirely
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>>519850265
Do you honestly believe russians give any fucks about developing a system like that? For them the more civilians get irradiated by the fallout, the better.
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>>519855799
Ohhhhh, so Burevestnik is not ICBM. Now I get it. Thanks ameribro.
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>>519846118
>850-1300 km/h
>25-100
This is just fucking ridiculous. Most useless weapon in the world.
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>>519846475
>slow
Mach 1 ain't slow
and the purpose of it is very clear to me - russian already anticipated that megawatt range laser weapons will end ICBM era. And this will happen this decade. Lasers can't destroy what they can't see
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>>519846862
>pidors shidding and fardding while negotiating
typical
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>>519856874
>Mach 1 ain't slow
It's the speed of a regular passenger jet. This missile is just less maneuverable and has lower altitude. It can be shot by a regular anti-aircraft gun.
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>>519847037
usefulness of ICBMs will end with high power lasers being deployed on the battlefields
>inb4 protective coatings
can they stop a gigawatt beam? Because that's what the development of lasers is going towards to
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>>519857063
and what is going to detect it when it goes 25 meters over ground and has some stealth properties?
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>>519846475
>the flag
>the post
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>>519846597
If you can scare a bear into not mauling you, you're doing alright
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>>519857141
>and what is going to detect it when it goes 25 meters
Same thing that detect Calibers. Also eyes of soldiers.

>stealth properties
Russia can't into stealth
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>>519857224
why do all non whites hate Poles?
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>>519846118
May we see it?
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>>519849776
Seething jew getting a hard on by imagining goyim killing goyim. You’re time will come, Moshe.
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>>519847440
>The Ukraine is Russia
Nafo trannies admit it
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>>519846118
I could look it up but some of you guys love talking about weapons:
Why is this better than an ICBM? How is it different?
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>>519847268
You always knew this to be the case because of the CONSTANT projection of "RUZZIAN NUKES DON'T WORK!!!"
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>>519846118
So what's the point? What's the infinite-range target they made this for? Weren't hypersonics the deathblow and the last word already?
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>>519858174
Nevermind the thread answered this. Seems cool if real.
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>>519848460
rare flag
how are you doing angola bro
are you high up in the military junta?
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>>519847067
>they are subverted because they hate Russia
Anon I...
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>>519847067
Says the west(white)-hating russian subvertee.
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what's the size of this unit?
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>>519853440
Wipe your mouth, kike, i can see you’re frothing in absolute butthurt
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>>519846597
Shut the fuck up goy. A nuclear reactor without shielding flew around for 17 hours and no one detected it.
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>>519846118
Nice fake missile me Monke.
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>>519846597
> *sound of call to prayer in the distance*
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>>519846487
Yes but burgers can't intercept them all.
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>>519847099
It was basically a nuclear powered, nuclear bomber. After it dropped its payload, it was supposed to fly low and spew radiation and destroy thing with its supersonic shockwave until it would crash and the reactor would meltdown at a predetermined point. Also consider we built this in the 1960's. We never deployed it because is the most heinous thing imaginable. What the fuck is with these new Captchas?
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>>519858643
KEK, youre alright leafjeet
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>>519849372
Bulldozer
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>>519847599
I do not recall a single agreement the russia has honoured.
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>>519847268
We test fire them on a regular basis. We just test fired an SLBM a month or two ago.
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two more weeks and shit
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>>519858872
>bulldoze
>/boo͝l′dōz″/
>intransitive verb
>To move, dig out, or demolish with a >bulldozer.
>bulldozed the ground at the construction site; >bulldozed a road through the woods; >bulldozed the old building.
>To coerce, intimidate, or bully.
>To do away with; terminate.
try again
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>>519852754
Do you even know what a cruise missile is, neverserved?
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>>519852033
Jokes on you, your fancy detectors wont work once the whole atmosphere is radioactive.
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>>519846475
Shoot i down and it becomes a dirty bomb.
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>>519846597
>nuclear weapons don't exist, goy!
>drones also don't exist!
>it's all propaganda!
>be pro-war! enlist now! war is still a noble thing!
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>>519858929
Gee can bulldozers do more then that? Like build a road, or knock over defenses. We been usin bulldozers for war as long as tanks.
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Man this board is nothing but bots and 3rd world niggers. Good job kikes good job
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>>519846272
Yes. If they tested it irl, it's over.
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>>519859035
>once the whole atmosphere is radioactive.
that would affect russia too? or do they exist outside the atmosphere
>You detect the leftover radiation hours after the missile has hit its intended target then
Early warning satellites detect radiation spikes within seconds. And then you get counter nuked so what's the point in having a zigzag nuke missile then.
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>>519847804
ICBMs have existed for decades my guy.
>>519847646
Is Fukushima a nuclear exclusion zone? According to what I can find they have less than 3% of the prefecture radioactive after a earthquake and a tsunami, whereas chernobyl is still massively fucked after... literally just incompetence and retardation.
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>>519847900
The russia would never honour it. Nukes and their threat is the only thing you have.
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>>519852209
The thing is like project Pluto it is designed to fly around 100-150m high.
That makes most defensive systems have lots of issues.
Remember if you want to avoid defensive systems you either want to be really really high, really low or go stupid fast.
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>>519852480
The payload rate is insane.
ICBM payload is minuscule compared to project pluto.
Usually about 1-10% of the missile itself.
Pluto was like 25%
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Dude, russians have had them for decades!

Air and water, apparently the underwater one can go for decades, and so can the air one.

They also said they have a plane that can fly for decades and is loaded with nukes.

US probubly has them too, for sometime now, so does chyna.
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>>519846272
>>519846475
>>519859397
Lol
Does any other nuclear weapon/powerplant spread radiation?
It's a closed cycle jet engine, retards
Inb4 sperging
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>>519857526
Russians invented stealth geometries, more or less
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>>519860766
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto

They stopped it BECAUSE of that, among other issues
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>>519858798
>is the most heinous thing imaginable
not nearly lol
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>>519860260
air-breathing, twr < 1
of course it had lots of payload
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>>519858984
Way to own an anon, zogbot
Why aren't you fighting Russia
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>>519859840
Or all of those
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>>519859840
>>519860260
Pluto was never developed it's a dream
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>>519851343
you've never tried to get a peek in the mirror?
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>>519860962
The other (real) issue being after 6 years they got nowhere so they pretended to be concerned so they can terminate it and save face
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>>519846272
No, it doesn't have a ramjet nuclear engine. It has a ducted jet engine
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>>519846862
>in the air for days
>slow(er)
>low altitude
Could someone ride it around?
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>>519846580
You mean those fucking pussies who still have stealth recruitment threads here because the people they have in their /meg/ are all Jewish rejects and trannies?
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>>519846118
Because there are Geneva Conventions against airborne nuclear power.
^

Most sane countries aren't testing this.
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>>519846390
If third world countries could make weapons, they wouldn't be third world countries.
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>>519847440
This missile exploded during testing a couple years ago and killed a bunch of scientists.
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>>519846118
I'm totally fine with ziggers nuking Jew York and the Pentagon. We need a reset.
>>519850921
Kek, glad someone else saw it to. The 4Chan God has a sense of humor, otherwise I'm sure he would have picked a VPN from anywhere other than fucking Russia lmao
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>>519862062
Your mother
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>>519860962
>Pluto
Duh...
Just because they're both nuclear doesn't mean they're the same thing or duffer from the dame flaws, but whatever...
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>>519860962
Aodo, they stopped it because by then they had ICBMs...
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>>519846506
did you know russia has tigers?
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So what is the endgame here? The longer it flies, the higher probability it will be detected. Why would you create an undetectable missile only to let it fly long enough so it can be detected?
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>>519846272
Not exactly, but if you were to ride for 14h you'd definitely get all sorts of cancer.
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ICBMs are better but I assume Russia is doing this because their ICBMs can be disabled with a laser lol
These aren't as effective. They're very loud and easily detectable by heat and radiation. You can make it go as fast as you want but there's certain limitations. Faster means smaller payload. Larger payload means slower missile. A hypersonic missile would be better at striking a specific target, and an ICBM would be more effective at delivering a nuke
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>>519846597
kek, tard glowies in this thread didn't get the memo that everyone on pol knows that nukes are fake and gay these days
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>>519862976
>Shoot it down as it flies over Estonia to Germany or wherever
>Estonia covered in highly enriched nuclear fuel
Its a dirty bomb the entire route and then a traditional payload on target. Has nothing to do with time
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>>519849506
then make your own nuclear engine taras
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>>519863309
Yeah, but what kind of policy instrument is this? So that Putin can have a month long telephone conversation with Trump: bro, call me or I'll detonate the missile in your air space, or you can do it your self.the only way to safely disarm the missile would be to guide it back to Siberia, by which point it can be destroyed in air by acompanying foreign aircraft.
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>>519846272
>Project Orion
They've refined things
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>>519846118
But why?

And by why I mean HOLY FUCK WHAT ARE YOU EVEN DOING AT THIS POINT?!??!

If you think they need it because of the range - they already have ICBMS!
And if you think ICBMs can't go far enough - they can circle around the Earth
And if you are thinking ICBMs can only do so much damage - each one of those has a nuke, some have several
And if you are thinking they only have so much of those - they have over 1000 of those.
Any if you are thinking that a country like USA has too many cities - 1000 ICBMs alone would wipe out anything you aver heard of coming out of USA


OK, the only logical explanation for this is if they want to make war even more comfy for them. Basically, sit at one end of Russia and randomly lob these things at targets that they make up mid air.
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>>519863775
>Has nothing to do with time
Is reading not your strongsuit?
Its to allow them to strike within western countries while making the intermediary countries hesitant to shoot shit down.
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>>519862074
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>>519853602
So it could be launched a couple of days in advance or patrol.
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>>519846118
Is there a target in the world that would warrant the cost of this missile?
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>>519846118
The US tested nuclear powered rockets and missiles in the 70s, and gave up because they irradiate literally everything in their paths target or not. One particular project called project Pluto was a nuclear powered rockets/missile capable of flying for a month non stop, carries 25 lower yield nuclear warheads, and the main missile itself being a high yield nuclear bomb. Problems included the necessity for the rocket to fly low, so it irradiates everything in its path and kills everyone it comes across by shattering their eardrums. Oh, and it never ended in serious production because it would be "too provocative" for the USSR.
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>>519865562
Israel
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>>519864357
>But why?

Because glowniggers need to pretend that there is a purpose to their existence so they need to make shit up. Back in day they could convince dumb boomers that magic sci fi shit is real, but these days it is way too obvious it is just vaporware.
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>>519862551
Where does the nuclear part come in
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>>519864357
ICBMs can be intercepted and traditional cruise missiles don't have enough range.
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Well, we got a ballroom to help acquaint Mossad with who is left to be blackmailed.
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>>519868615
So can this, even more easily.
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>>519868313
>Pluto=plutonium (gamma radiation
>Burevestnik=(apparently) thorium (alpha radiation
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>>519849776
You got my vote all slavs and their supporters deserve it
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>>519846597
yeah it cant be used and prove nukes are fake or hyped
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>>519846118
>unlimited range nuclear turbojet
Can this be used in airplanes?
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>>519849372
Mexicans
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>>519846475
>easily detectable slow moving idiocy
it's literally a loitering ICBM that can fly at low altitudes.. you don't realize how fucking insane that is.
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>>519847281
We never fully developed the tech.
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>>519865562
Dude, ru gov spend countless rockets on useless targets. They know that they're useless. Yet they attacked.

Rocket from op post will never be used against west.
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>>519848094
No we don't kek
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>>519869343
So how does that power the missile? A nuclear reactor boils water to spin a turbine, where does the nuclear material actually power the missile?
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>>519862551
Can I use it to fly around the world if I replace the warhead with my RV?
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>>519870057
It's insanely stupid. You don't need loitering strategic missiles because SSBNs exist and if you start flying it towards an enemy country they'll shoot it down and consider it an attempted nuclear strike.
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>>519870393
The same way a nuclear power generator works in nuclear power plants, i guess
>>519870492
You need a loicense for that
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>>519870512
You need to find it first
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>>519870628
That is how a nuclear reactor works. It heats water (under pressure to raise the boiling point) to spin a turbine.
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>>519870683
>Detecting a low, slow moving, large object
So very easily.
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>>519870833
Sure is
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>>519869066
No, it can't. Low altitude cruise missiles are hard to detect and there isn't enough time to shoot them down after you detect them.
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>>519862204
>what is north korea for $100 alex
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>>519846118
Ids over for the west, surrender, you, fuckers! This is your last chance
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>>519848094
>the USA has nuclear warheads in space
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>>519861496
Two of those outright contradict another.
>>519861748
They actually build two engines and tested them.
So the know engine output and thrust and can estimate load capabilities.
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>>519846118
>SUCCESSFULLY TESTED
If I remember correctly 8 dead scientists
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>A giant slow missile
Yeah impressive.
>The missile flew 14,000 Kilometers in a 15 hr flight on 21 October 2025 according to Russian Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov in a televised meeting with President Putin.

How much radiation was spread over his retard population? I guess it makes sense, all of the Kremlin officials have their own families living in the West so they don't care about this.
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>>519849533
>The USA had those in the 50s or 60s.
Wrong. One engine was tested for like 100 seconds, no flying examples were actually built.
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>>519846118
so thats what blew up like a nuke a few years back, bretty cool. nuclear weapons are badace. give me a nuclear car already kikes
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Ok and? assuming that they do use this dildo rocket and it hits the mark, is there supposed to be some neon evagelcia clapping scene or some shit because moments later the sky lights up with MAD return fire?

>but but but Russia knows where all muh nooks are hiding.
does anyone believe that?
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>>519848094
Not exactly, but Russia could have them at a moments notice, since their modern ICBMs are FOBS capable.
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>>519873569
Wrong
They tested if it worked in 61 and after they confirmed it did they build a second engine with about 10 times the output and tested that one in 64.
Rough estimates give it about a 25% payload capacity compared to the non loaded weight.
Compare that to ICBMs who usually only have <1% payload capacity and smaller more effective ones can reach a range of 5-10% payload capacity compared to empty.
The reason this is interesting is because instead of going very high to avoid defensive systems you go really low, like under the radar low.
This will it also make it hard for conventional existing defensive systems to target it.
And the fact it's course can be altered allows them to attack from angles and positions currently deployed defensive systems are not expecting.
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>>519846118
so basically starlink is useless
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>>519850359
My understanding of the literature from the 70's, the idea (and why it was then immediately shut down because MAD for pretty crazy pretty quick) is that you could have hundreds of these fitting around the pacific, forever, and they could be dirty as Fuck, contaminating everywhere they went, and then hit the kill switch would have them flying over the populated areas of the enemy's countryside, washing it all in radioactive fallout.
The warhead became irrelevant, as the limitless range and radioactive fallout everywhere it flew was deterrent enough.
Let's hope this is another Russian bluff, because these are a lot scarier than ssbm's.
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>>519846118
FINALLY, A MIRACLE WEAPON THAT CANNOT BE USED (BECAUSE IT IS INHUMANE, AND RUSSIA IS ABOVE THAT), BUT EVERYONE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW WE HAVE IT!
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>>519847834
They are quite different. The US SLAM missile was a gigantic monstrosity the size of a bomber aircraft, powered by a nuclear ramjet that spewed radiation everywhere. The Russian Burevestnik is about the size of a regular cruise missile that fits on a truck, and is powered by a nuclear turbojet which may or may not be cleaner (when it comes to nuclear, smaller is generally harder)
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>>519857063
Regular AA guns are useless on low altitude planes. Plus they're usually pretty up for regular flight paths, in limited effectiveness positions.
Regular planes don't fly at 200' elevation because human error.

But an AI GPS/GLONASS guided nuclear armed cruise missile flying at Mach 0.8 with unlimited range and a database of all buildings and tree lines scrapped from oh I don't know Google earth and soviet military maps is about as close to game over hardware as this world has ever seen.
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>>519850428
>>519858082
>implying the only soviet nuclear disaster happened in Russia
>implying Russia didn't casually release more radiation than Chernobyl from facilities that didn't even suffer serious accidents
>implying the US didn't have to pay for a lot of the clean up and security of said facilities
>"NOOOOO IT WAS ONLY FUKUSHIMA AND CHERNOBYL AND FUKUSHIMA WAS WAAAAY WORSE I SWEAR"
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>>519846475
The missile is easily detectable - if you have an AWACS aircraft flying within 400km. The main strength of this missile is that it can attack from unexpected directions, and that it can attack targets that would normally not be provided with protection from cruise missiles because they would normally be considered out of range of cruise missiles
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>>519873269
There's plenty of Russia (and unpatrolled) airspace over the arctic with limited topography and zero population density.
I'm guessing that's where they tested it.
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>>519847037
There is value in diversification of delivery systems, by making it harder and more expensive to defend against.
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>>519846580
Well, it's Russian, so obviously /k/ wouldn't be
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>>519876872
I was under the impression (((Russia))) has had one of these since tsar bomba: a giant, like 100GT dirty as Fuck nuclear service that is set to go off if the west ever does something retarded like do probably successful preemptive nuclear decapitation strike.
What, the kikes are the only ones with a Samson option?
Where do you think (((they))) for it from, when 60% of pissreals population speaks Russian?
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>>519847037
>instead of taking half an hour to reach the target it takes ten hours to reach the target?

It's the entire point of that missile.
The idea is to launch it, but still leave plenty of time to have a negotiation.
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>>519858798
U beat me to it. Not to be a fag but half of the time these big tech announcements from other countries are just announcements for shit we already built and tested in the 70-90s.
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>>519870833
Good luck with that if it flies 30m above ground.
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They should build a bigger one and put a Tsar bomba in it and send it to Denmark please do it
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>>519877749
Do you just not know what the Samson Option is or are you a Jew doing FUD?
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>>519880353
Are you fucking retarded?
What part of what I said would indicate I don't know what the Samson option is?
Seriously, what do YOU think the Samson option is?
Or is this just more kikery 101?
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>>519880353
Or let me ask it this way, what is MAD, if not the Samson option?
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>>519880510
>the initial snarling dog NO U and water-muddying

>>519880573
the "oh fuck I'm found out"

Hi Hymie.
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>>519877453
Dude, you think too much.
Last test was in ru regions, where people life.
I bet this test was also in ru regions.

They doesn't cares about us.
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>>519878735
You have no idea how easy it is to detect radioactive things.
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>>519846118
It's an old design. During the Cold War they had their own theoretical Samsung option they worked on, a nuclear powered ramjet missile that could fly for days while salting the whole planet with Cobalt and similar material.
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>>519846118
dosent matter if rusians bring Jesus to the earth, americans will only knee to the jews an their pedo etertainment
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>>519869310
>bureveSTINK
lmao, AI with the deep cuts
and no it's not a sodium LFTR, it cannot be
it's a bismuth or FLiBe cooled fast reactor
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>>519873824
it's a second strike weapon, Russia fully expects to lose the initial exchange and is prepared to murder lots of civilians in retaliation
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>>519882542
>Sperging
Whatever
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