Stressed people don't want it, according to rat experiments.
>>519861304This only applies to whites. Browns are reproducing like cockroaches.
>bro if i had to buy a bunch of toys for my kids then i wouldn't have enough money to buy more toys for myself!
>victims of child abuse are less likely to want children, studies show
>>519861304They will regret that.Also, they were made to think like that. Hopefully they will wake up soon enough.t. third child on the way and therefor the happiest guy
>plebbitkys nigger
>>519861304>One in five women don't want children -- until they see the wall hurtling toward them>Four in five men won't have children whether they want them or not
>>519861482yeah, pretty much thisim pretty sure my dad is a narcissisthe is on his third marriage, it was a "mixed" familythat's just scratching the surface, my family was crazyand the more i reflect on my childhood the more i realizei was neglected and abused/bullied
>>519861561I only had 1 and im 40 now but being a dad has been my greatest joy in life.
>>519861304>>519861425>>519861449Should withold all government benefits from people without offspring
>>519861304WRONGWelfare recipients do.https://youtu.be/xLTTX35LNJoObligatory.
>>519861304Women are not worthy of my seed
>>519861482similar feeling but escaped my worthless family, now i want kids but will never introduce them to family. fuck your grandkids mother, they're my kids
>>519861304>deciding early in lifeYes it’s very easy for an 18 year old roastie who spends all day messaging an army of chads desperate to get in her pants, offering free dinners and trips to exotic locations, to decide she doesn’t ever want to change her lifestyle.But eventually they get old, and the firehouse of male attention slows to a trickle and they get extremely lonely. Somehow every fucking thot on earth manages to convince themselves that men aren’t attracted to their bodies and that all the attention is because they are a “bad bitch” or have some sort of magical charisma about them unrelated to their firm nubile skin and perky young tits. Or they delude themselves into thinking they’ll be one of the rare women who stays hot into their late 40’s and can do the cougar thing like on the movies.
>>519861561What exactly would they regret? Please answer without the usual suspects of "They will die alone." "They won't have anyone to take care of them when they get old." and "They won't know the joy of a child's unconditional love." Because we all die alone, there is no guarantee they will take care of you and they may grow up to hate you for no fault of your own. I'll wait.
>>519861825kek women reject you guynot the other way around
>>519861895Dying "surrounded by family" sounds gay and humiliating as fuck anyway
>>519861462i can't risk having kids because i rent a 1 room apartment from 1/3 of my salary. I save less than 1/10 of my salary every month and im very frugal. If shtf, it will be hard for me without children. Also if I did have one child and nothing bad happened for at least 10 years, the best the child would have is same as me, being a drone that is living to work. Even though I am able to bear it, majority doesn't so I don't expect my hypothetical child to nor do I want him/her. Living without future, even when your children would be stuck in the same economic class, would be too painful.
>>519861884You watch way, way, way too much porn anon. Control yourself.
>>519861895> they may grow up to hate you for no fault of your ownMaybe one of your kids could even if you were a decent parent but there’s no chance of that if you have 2 or more. It’s not the natural order for a child to hate their parents.
I wanted kids but I was blocked from entry level roles then I was told that I should have developed skills, skills that can only be developed from being trained while working an entry level role. Then I was told there was a massive shortage in the industry but no one was hiring for less than 3 years of experience. Now I'm over 30.
>>519862079Not an argument
>>519861304Meh. Death awaits a child the same as you. The only real reason to create one is for yourself. Maybe people are starting to see through the illusion that life is only about breeding and propping up a system that only serves to abuse.
>>519861895>don't tell me 2+2=4 I want a proper answer
>>519862183You’re retarded. Never post again.
>>519862043You might've missed out on an OnlyFans whore cashcow
>>519861304>Young women famous for having consistent opinions from day to day
>>519861462How about>let me bring children into lives of wage-slavery and permanent rentals just because anon want the ruling elite to have a steady supply of cheap labor to keep their pyramid scheme going Population contraction is GOOD
>>519861462Daycare is like $500 a week.
>>519862179Mot meant to be, obviously. Just a truth you and I both know to be one.
>>519861304>Grow up during a diabolical world wide psyop of medical tyranny now all proven to be based on lies>Adults say you can change your sex which you know is a lie>Your grandma is a demonstrably insane leftist>Your mom divorced your dad when you were seven.>Every adult is a degenerate whoreWhy won't our children fuck around like sluts and kick out a ton of unwanted babies so I can have bastard grand kids?
>>519861304Animals in captivity don't want to breed. Big shocker!
>>519862254I doubt you could explain why I'm retarded for you know as well you can't take anything to the grave.
>>519861762Excluding browns and other non-whites.
>>519862141Define "natural order."
>>519861304more like 4 in 5zoomers will have no families or kidsbrace up, the population collapse will be worse than any war
>>519862670“Natural Order” means you are a fucking faggot fuck off
>>519861304But maybe if we don't let them remove their reproductive abilities, make them get married, rape them, when they have kids they'll regret their choices of not wanting kids
>>519862382>putting your kids in daycare
>>519861561>Make decision.>omg the decision i made is the correct one and an6body who doesn't make the same decision that I did is wrong and will regret it.>I can't regret any decision anymore because that would make me look weak infront of my children who I view as inferior to me because they don't have children like the far superior me.
>>519862240>I can't think of an answer so I'll post a low IQ comparison statement to make myself seem smart.
>>519862835Stay mad drone.
>>519862382>Giving your kid to a another person for pennies.Yeah man I'm so sure everything they do to yoyr kid is 100% above the table.
If you at all concern yourself with other people having kids I unironically consider you a fucking freak that wants to exert control however you can"We need more people to pay taxes and sustain industry""Who will do THIS for me? Who will do THAT for me? I mean us, who will do it for 'us' and our entire species?!?"Unironically fucking kill yourselves niggers, modern society is not a natural culmination and they despise anything that doesn't adhere to the point of killing it paving over it and denying it ever existed.How selfish do you have to be to have kids just because you want them, or demand OTHER people have them, not because it naturally happened and youre willing to provide for them even at your own detriment?Where is the love?Fuck you
>>519861304You want kids?Another mouth for the machine to feed on?We’re maggots chewing through a dying planet, calling it progress.You’re not making life — you’re producing labour.Legacy, hope, civilization… perfume on rot.Stop pretending it means something.
>>519863003>>519863052Get back to it then.
>>519863003You sound liek you're 2 years away from suck starting a shotgun outside a gas station in your truck
>>519861975Same thing, they reject because they're not worthy.
>>519863213>now let me tell you why we need open borders...
I want kids it's just too hard to find a multi-millionaire heiress of a family business with 50 acres estate and 50 people of personnel
>>519861762that will surely make them less stressed
>>519861304America's still a pretty cool place to start a family compared to the rest of the world. The real uphill battle is just getting young people to settle down and start shitting out kids before their eggs/sperm get too old to make healthy babies. Back when I was a kid in the 70's, people were always asking (if not demanding) why couples weren't A) married or B) why they didn't have a baby yet. Everyone thinks of that as so 'oppressive' now, but in reality it was a damn good idea.
Its a lot more than that. Its just not compatible to say it out loud in the overton window, not just yet. Wait for the food situation to get a bit worse and the dam will break.
>>519861304life is literally not worth living
>>519862860>taking your toddler to your work every daythere is no limit to clown discourse
>>519863756Try it and ill remind you that you are too old to be making questions or demands by slamming you to the ground, back of the head first.
>>519861425current stress + future resource fear = no kidsIt's ridiculous. You can pick starving, illiterate negroes and drop them in a semi-arid warzone and they will reproduce like mice just fueled by plantains, tubers and insects.Instead our glorious, modern, developed europeans screech in fear every day of losing their cheeses, croissants and wine to such degree they're deciding they are in deathly danger every single day for decades since 8th grade.We are fucking below middle age peasants. If africa is the 3rd world we have "developed" ourselves into the 4th world.My girlfriend has a 18yo brother and he's spending all his free time playing sex gacha games. Completely worthless. Boomers are screeching 24/7Worst of all i suspect the government is even more clueless than believed. They keep advertising consumption and vacationing when you don't even see people visiting bars much unless it's the week-end anymore.
>>519864140>bitchfaggot still in his "i make sincere and scawry threats on the internets uwu" phaseKeep it simple retard
>>519861304Have you considered using them for slave labour in a small business tax free until they are old enough to resist your abusive controls?Children can be a blessing when you know what you're doing.
>>519861304>see your parents barely make ends meet, literally work themselves to death, fall into alcoholism and drug abuse to cope>I dont want any of that!in an alternate reality>you can support a family with one salary>you have a house you own and can't be evicted when you get fired out of the blue>you can afford food and can afford to have savings>you can afford healthcare>you can get a new job in no time because there are no hordes of jeets and niggers infesting the job market>Do you want 2 or 3 kids honey?it's as simple as that. Really.
>>519862382why is this such a problem exactly? can't your parents watch a kid for a few hours?
>>519861895Once enough of their peers get kids they also want them or else they are left out. Classic fomo
Why would you want a child when the government is gonna psyop them into being a tranny NPC through chemicals and public schooling?
>>519861895Well, >>519862240 is not wrong.But i ll try:Even if i died right now, my kids would be my biggest joy in life. Its fullfilling to me that i put so much time and effort in raising them and its very satisfying to see it pay off. I enjoy them making my house lively, i love how the love me unconditionally. I love making their life, their character the best i can, even if sometimes they don't see it that way - yet. I already hope for some grandchildren. I can't wait for christmas season. Every day is full of highs, like a drug. Having kids was the best thing in my life.
>>519861561"Look at me I made the smart move you fucking suck lol"
>>519861482Yeah, abused and traumatized by my own dad until he finally died but I cannot recuperate from the trauma and there is no way I want any kids when I'm a wreckage myself
>>519864317>>you can support a family with one salaryniggers have 10 kids on a salary of food stamps and stealing, people that want "better" for their kids are the problem, you want to outnigger the niggers if you care for the future of this planet
>>519865259its always the nigger argument.Niggers dont care about their children. Nigger dads exit the family as soon as the news about pregnancy hit. Niggers steal, rape, and murder, and thats the extent of their life ambition.>people that want "better" for their kids are the problemJEWS are the problemJEWS that control the job market are the problemJEWS that own all property are the problemJEWS that refuse to raise salaries and instead choose to outsource all operations to bangalore, india, are the fucking problemnot white people who want their kids to eat something other than dogshit and gravel
If shaming worked like back then suposedly did it would have been a 3 day special operation instead of attempt no 383872857619 gramps. You will regret attempting it.
>>519865455>>519864264For you. Now go back to drinking estrogen piss or something you subhuman piece of garbage.
this is what happens when it no longer takes a village to raise a child
>>519865404your ancestors were peasant farmers that lived poorer than modern niggers
>>519865612at least you used to own a house in the village>>519865615you are a literal subhuman vatnigger in this very moment right now
Do childless retards understand how in deep shit they will be?>it's 2050>you're aging>your MC mansion is empty and silent>several of your pets long died of aging>all the people older than you and you grew with are dead >new generations feel alien and distant to you>the jew government won't raise pensions>newer generations will hate you for letting shitskins become majority>brownoid new generations will hate you for being white>shitskins will perma elect themselves in power >inflation will make your pensions and lifesavings worthless>the govt will take your homes to fit migrants (already happening in the UK)>too old to do anything yourself>you will be put in care of niggers who hate you>be tortured for you last 20 years>>no legacy>you did nothing >you left nothing
>>519861304>"nobody" wants kids >picture of White female
>>519865676you are advocating self-genocide of your own race because you can't afford to buy expensive toys for your potential kids
>>519865688Your children will be shit street cleaning caste lmao
>>519861304When the social contract is broken you do not owe the state or corporations fresh debt slaves.
>>519865688Not having kids has little to do with any of that, I'm not even an "antinatalist" but "pronatalists" are terrible at arguing
>>519864192Niggers are too dumb to stress, simple as. White people have a tendency to think of the future, niggers don't. White people see a bleak future, niggers don't see a future at all. Should I go on? And no, it's not a croissont people are concerned about. It's things such as the vast majority never being able to afford a home of their own, which is about the bare minimum one needs to have a steady existence.
>>519865771White women are the problem, yes. Wignat cucks that simp for white women enable them.
>>519865615They had 150-180 days off a year on Average and were secure in a home and the substance of life. They built culture out of that leisure time and built cathedrals out of charity. There is no comparison between them and people having 10 kids that are a liability and future criminals through virtue of abuse, neglect and want.
>>519861304>NOBODY WANTS KIDS ANYMOREi am never consulted for these studies, so i find it difficult to believe the conclusion, iIt is probably jews lying as usual... personally, i prefer them to be female and between the ages of 6-11, because after that they are already subverted by the dehumanizing Jewish machinery
>have daughtersmy bloodline ends anyways>have sonsdie all die in wars or killed by niggers and spicWhat a life!
>>519861304
>>519861762Sure why not. There are too many retards receiving gibs already. It is very easy to live comfortably if you don't have a w*man or kids so if you are still collecting gibs you're beyond lazy
>>519862013Dying is not the scary part, it is not dying before getting dementia/alzheimers/parkinson. I will mae sure to never live that long.
>>519861304Why would I want to bring children into this hellscape?
>>519865169Yes.
>>519865688>>>no legacy>>you did nothing >>you left nothingthis is everyone. anyone who claims otherwise seriously is a delusional narcissist
>>519861304I have one, I can't afford another one
>>519861762Should be the opposite to prevent lazy bums from multiplying like its their primary job. With free housing and free food comes the prerequisite of free neutering.
>My legacy will be another wagie in the cagie who hates me and will have a worse life than I did because I cannot afford the things my parents could in a better economy
>>519867007it's no different than any other time in history. there are always problems and atrocities being committed.
>>519865688You didn't give a single reasonable argument to have children, just spouted some racist bullshit and a fake future scenario you imagined. Human beings in nature have children because it's the normal thing to do when money/survival isn't a problem.
>>519864894I think having kids is nice, to the point that i would even be willing to tolerate a womanin my house. maybe. It's like having a best friend again one with who you can do everything.
>>519866397>move/shift the goalposts>idiom>: to change the rules or requirements in a way that makes success more difficult
>>519865688The working class is being replaced with machines and people are being depopulated. You should take joy in this because both the plague of immigrants and their enablers are going to suffer equally. The people that are useful the the system will be taken care of. It will be a more just and much smaller world as it is depopulated by machines. Nothing you do today matters because you were always just a larp like the meme flag.
>>5198613041 in 5? That seems like a very low number. I was expecting 4 in 5 with how the economy is set up to extract the maximum possible out of the employed.
>>519863756>America's still a pretty cool place to start a family compared to the rest of the world.Until some nigger shoots your kid.
>>519861462Men aren't the issue when it comes to kids. Women have and will always have the monopoly on children. The issue for women is status among female peers, and I can believe that what this anon >>519861425 says about stress being a factor (IMO specifically environmental and economical stress).All men have done is retreated into their hobbies because there's nothing for them to do. Men, as well as women have been told to compete with one another, but men have been mentally beaten down by the state propaganda machine to hand their power to women. Today's western world is the result.
>>519861304Why should I have kids? What's the actual upside?
>>519861762Who do you think leeches most of the government funds and help to begin with? You think it's single men?
>>519867446
>>519861304Nobody wants to produce a kike debt slave that will be harvested for thier loosh all their life. All roads lead to removing Schlomo from positions of influence, banning usury, mass deportations of foreigners, and deemancipation of women. Birthrates will skyrocket if we achieve these things. It's National Socialism or bust frens.
>>519862454No it’s not. You’re a dummy.
>>519861304>according to jewberg jewstein
>>519866982its crazy to think that one day if i live that long i will have to go and kill myself in the forest
>>519861304We need artificial wombs.Women can't handle the difficulty of childbirth anymore, they are spoiled and have no pride.
>>519861304Nobody ever wanted children. The whole thing is a psyop to create new wageslaves.People are just waking up now.
>>519861561Congratulations, anon. All the best to you and your family. Be good to your missus and things will likely be fine.>>519862043>blablablaI didn't really read all of your shit but have you considered that your financial power doubles (at least) with a decent partner?
>>519867663>>according to jewberg jewsteinyes
>>519867515>will always have monopolyThat's objectively untrue for all of human history, except the last century
>>519863756Look at all the manchildren ITT seething over people that think it’s good to have families
>>519867610Oy vey
>>519861895The last moment someone thinks of you is your grandchild when you are long dead.
>>519861304>NOBODY WANTS KIDS ANYMOREright wing capitalist policy is anti family and anti humanity
>>519867598Immortality.
>>519861304I would have kids, but I genuinely despise women and would blow my brains out first before willingly associating with them.
>>519864317>blaming anything other than personal choice for things like alcohoismThis is called “external locus of control” and it’s a tell for subhuman behaviors. Your parents were alcoholics because they chose to pick up the bottle. Nothing more.
>>519867851? the left is female-coded now and they hate kids
>>519861304Good. This is a prison planet. No more of this. Without prisoners the prison planet falls. NO MORE SLAVES, NO MORE SOLDIERS, NO MORE KIDS.
>>519867875how does having kids give you immortality
>>519867851>>519867954both of these statements are true, hence why a third position is needed
>>519867788Women will always have a monopoly ON CHILDREN. They have the womb, men don't, unless you're one of those morons who think men can have wombs now.
>>519861304If men can be conscripted in times of war, women should be conscripted in times of low fertility. Childless women are given 1 year to get married and pregnant or they are put into a eugenic breeding camp. This would never happen in a fascist or fundamentalist nation.
>>519861561>They will regret that.I am 45 and don't regret it.>>519864501>Once enough of their peers get kids they also want them or else they are left out. Quite opposite. Seeing others suffer from parenthood makes me convinced children are a torture.
>>519861304You're all so introverted you can't even procreate right, a base primal function.Now get off my lawn.
I want to MAKE kids, as in I love the thought of impregnating a girl, but I don't want to actually HAVE the kids
>>519861304The white trash that live in the periphery is still too much prolific
>>519867954>supports universal childcare >supports universal healthcare >supports education Wtf are you talking about?Being anti abortion is NOT equivalent to being pro children. He is correct: right wing policies discourage child rearing and only “respect” fetuses. Once it is born they could give a flying fuck.
>>519867851
>>519867403>if you disagree with me you are le jew
>>519861304Think the only country in all the world right now that's actively doing shit to just slightly improve famility conditions is the US and A, everywhere else it's just one-sided bullshit and expensive to fuck and back to even have a single kid not to mention the (((authorities))) reserving the right to just yoink your kid for made up issues.So yeah, why have a kid when it's all bullshit anyway, death to this civilization can't come soon enough.
>>519868099What happens when the person doing the conscripton is blackand the conscripted women is white?>that wouldn't happenthis is America, it absolutely would
>>519867515 >>519864192 >>519861425 It's not stress, if it were then any Indians or Africans who live off $2 a day would not have 5+ kids. It seems more like the absence of religion (read Michael Blume's book, he explains that pretty well with data) and women's rights (the right to work, equal payment, the right to divorce with no consequences), and female education were the three horsemen of infertility for the West.
>>519868277its almost as if he isn't a communist, retard
>>519868407i love these right ring psyop subs on reddit
>>519868407
>>519861304I guess that works out when most of these people find out they are barren and unable to conceive.
>>519868432 >everywhere else it's just one-sided bullshit and expensive to fuck and back to even have a single kid Is that why Ahmed, who lives off $2 a day in his mudhut has his 5th child by the age of 25? Your country is one of the most generous in the world when it comes to child support.
>>519861895>oh yea, tough guy? What's 2+2?>and no, don't say the usual suspect of 4. Give me a proper answer>I'll wait
>>519868471Indians and Africans aren't stressed by current conditions because they're too retarded to care. This is why their countries are shitholes where it's normal that half their children die.
>>519868475
>>519861304yeah I guess it was a dumb idea to make abortion the ultimate virtue signal but ah geez I guess it's too late for that
>>519868432>the only country in all the world right now that's actively doing shit to just slightly improve famility conditions is the US and A,
>>519868766
>>519868699Not a persuasive argument. Children are not obligated to care for aging parents. Many, many people with children die alone. Maybe they’re shitty or the kids are or both.Population decrease is not a negative.
>>519861895I have seen you faggots say this but this isn't true. When my grandfather was in his last days most of his children were by his bedside making sure he lived in comfort even taking paid leave to asist him at night and day shifts. He had the love of his kids till the end though i heard he was a drunkard in his early years and mostly eratic. The kids you have are the only guarantee you have for your old age. Especially if you come from non-atomized cultures where communities exist. Dying around extended family is much better than dying alone of old age, that is if you're not planning a glorius death somewhere in the congo
>>519861304>one in five>nobody80% of people want kids and anon says nobody wants kids. Do people fall for this outrage bait? Really?
>>519861425maybe making kids in countries they cut off genitals from kids is big reason too
>>519868879Nobody is obligated to do anything, therefore everything sucks and we're just space dust. How very Rick and Morty of you.
>>519868960I gotta say something. But I aint got nothing to say.
>>519868723Reminder that women kill 73 MILLION babies every single year, which is a WW2 every SINGLE year
>>519861304Mohammed trying to convince the west not to have kids. While he sits at home all day eating our taxes and making kids
>>519868960>>519869007Hello.
>>519861895Conversely, what's so bad about having kids that you're so obsessed with not having them? You can't say "muh economy" or "muh time" or "muh body" either.
>>519861304Don't want my kids to grow up with leftoids anyway
>>519868960>>519869007>>519869124I recommend you all read that. I got places to be.
>>519861304>lecture people for not having children>create economic conditions that make procreating unaffordablemuh free market conservaturds
>>519868666well I'm not a shitskin so I don't get to apply as a native danish white man no, I get to wageslave however to pay for akmad's existence and his 11 inbred cousins breeding like rats and driving BMWs.
I had my first child last year and it really is the greatest thing ever. Not going to try to convince the ever growing population of retards to do the same. If you don’t want children, fine, just stop expecting to have the things that come with an increasing population.
>>519868988Population decrease is not a negative. It makes the individual worth more and frees resources. I am an adult. As such, i do not watch cartoons and don’t fully understand your reference.Stop watching cartoons and stop playing video games. Maybe this is why you women don’t want children— because modern “men” don’t grow up.
>>519861762There's a strong argument to be made for cannibalizing the families of politicians and businessmen.
>>519869386thanks chatBot
>>519863321We don't, the population need to be lower, not fucking exponential growth.But the money system is based on fraud and required infinity douchbags daily.
>>519861304Only reason I am going to have a kid is to give my mom a grandchild, I am not particularly hot on getting married.
>>519868872>his own people call him a fraud
>>519861304Such a huge loss for the banks!
>>519861304I’ve gotten 7 women pregnant. I had every one of them get abortions. 2 of them multiple times. I also had this one white girl get an abortion when it wasn’t even mine. I told her I wouldn’t fuck her until she aborted the baby. I dumped her right after she took the pills. Kek.
>>519861304Good. Notice how the people with the lowest iq and the highest violent impulses have the most kids. It's because they can't reflect on what they're doing.
Boomers are the only generation in human history that got angry when their kids had kids and actively kicked them out of the house over it or threatened to be mean to them for having children
>>519869752this is actually true
>>519869115ok. we dont reproduce and our bloodlines escape samsara. their bloodlines have guarenteed posterity and because they tolerated the world's conditions their children and therefore the vehicle they will reincarnate into will need to be divided to make a new slave class.not my problem. its like those cucks who recycle. fuck the earth. fuck the trees. rich people live longer lives and have kids so I dont have to worry about the environment.
>>519861304>I want kids>No woman want to have kids with me>Meanwhile some women go and get kids with ivfI hate this world
>>519861304I wanted to have children.Then shit beyond my control put that plan on ice. I ended up getting divorced and tried to re-enter the dating scene only to find that women had all become delusional narcissists that just want to sit around eating cake, getting fat and watching kikeflix. I spent over a decade after getting divorced trying to find a diamond in the rough but at this point it would take far too long to build that level of trust with someone again.
>>519869817How many women have you approached in real life?
>>519861304It's funny how everyone acts like we're supposed to want kids for our own good. Family life is a sacrifice for the good of society. I congratulate you just as I would congratulate a soldier for doing his service, but I'm not interested and you can't make me.
>>519869538>Meme flag calling me a chat botThat’s pretty rich coming from a meme flaggot.
>>519861304>1 in 5>"nobody">1 in 5>"nobody">1 in 5>"nobody">1 in 5>"nobody">1 in 5>"nobody"
The black pill is that it would be the fastest way to beat them by sacrificing ourselves.
>>519869899OneI'm to old and broken now anyway
>>519861304A nazi worked out today, then I went for a walk with my wife and kids. Good luck!
The only moral reason to have children is because you have learned from your mistakes and seen the plight of the world and you want to raise an upstanding person that can be an asset to society and help preserve what's good and worthwhile. Having kids because you're lonely or you want a nanny is immoral.
>>519868465Well obviously you have to enact tnd, tkd, tjd, tsd, and tmd first. Any proposed government program is intended to apply to a good country. To answer your question though, it wouldn't happen because once there was an actual danger to their comfort white women would immediately jump at their biggest simp.
>>519869993Actions > words
>>519869752>I CAN’T BELIEVE MY 20 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER HAD A CHILD INSTEAD OF BEING A WAGEY>YOU ARE OUT OF MY HOUSE FOREVERThis was common in the early 2000s.
>>519869801Ok mohammed. I still won't submit to islam though
my grandpa was a high school dropout working in a factory and had a 6 bedroom ranch house with an attached AND detached garage,two cars, a lot of land, and was able to raise 4 children on a single blue collar income. Grandma didn't even work.I have a STEM degree and I can barely afford a shitty apartment.
>>519870054>tmdWhy the suicidality? Total mutt death?
>>519861762Yeah let’s give niggers more gibs, great idea. How about gibs for whites only?
>>519870124That stood for total muslim death, but killing off mystery meats would be good too.
>Get married EARLY (16-18)>have kids EARLY (18-21)>have an economy that supports men being able to earn a livable wage out of high school and college (lol gg)>Create a society that shames divorce again>Ban personal social mediaThen maybe we can reverse some the damage done in the past 50 years.
>>519861304Most western parents abuse their kids in some form or another. A traumatized generation would rather just be left to rot.
>>519869993If those that wanted kids had 3 on average, the 1 in 5 wouldn't matter one bit. Come on childmaxxers. Pick up our load.
>>519868471You’re forgetting about R/K selection. Niggers have kids and don’t care about them.
>>519870026>doesn’t try whatsoever >blames women for his failure Cmon NorwaybroBe betterMen can have kids until they die
>>519870167Hey big nigger, no one on this entire board wants gibs for niggers. You can completely remove that part of the equation. Assume that what they are talking about only applies to humans, not apes.
>>519870096Absolute suicide fuel man, their offspring is mentally ill as a result.
>>519864192>You can pick starving, illiterate negroes and drop them in a semi-arid warzonebecause a warzone will end sooner or later. You still have something to hope. Hoping for a better life.The modern life is a never ending roller coaster of stress and work (for most people more than just muh 8h). And only ends with one thing... the own death.
>>519870096Yeah this is insane
>>519870113>my grandpa was a high school dropout working in a factory and had a 6 bedroom ranch house with an attached AND detached garage,two cars, a lot of land, and was able to raise 4 children on a single blue collar income. Grandma didn't even work.>I have a STEM degree and I can barely afford a shitty apartment.Yes but you have diversity
>>519869999Damn, just like WH40K where every soul unless kept safe in a soulstone or similar ends up being consumed by the 4 gods of chaos.
Women's liberation is the great filter. Only asexual ayyys ever get to become interstellar.
Literally nothing wrong with not having kids But we should deport all shitskins
>>519870462If you truly do have faith in the God Emperor when you die, He'll eat you soul instead.
Only one in five should have kids. The rest are a genetic waste.
>>519870291>>519870337For some reason they treated having children as making you an abject failure. Teen pregnancy was absolutely shunned. Having a kid instead of going straight to being a wagey was shunned. The propaganda was pushed on the women way harder than the men too. And now look at the end result. Childless millennial women are going to cause political chaos for the rest of their lives. As the social safety nets they rely on fall apart because there isn’t a next generation to support them, and they have no husband to rely on, they’ll become a dangerous and destructive voting block.
>>519870069>>519870207Leave it to the memeflags to miss the point entirely.The point is, geniuses, that 1 in 5 is not anywhere near "nobody" which would be 100%. 1 in 5 is 20%, which is also historically low, considering nearly half of all males (that's 25% of total population for the mathematically illiterate) never breed. On top of the 20-30% of females who never breed that comes to a total of 35-40%, or nearly 2 in 5.
>>519870671The most dysgenic are pumping out kids thoughbeit
>>519870740No.
>>519861304Healthcare is expensive
>>519870825Average cost to have a baby in hospital is $20k
>>519870823pull up birthrates by race in the US, Britain, and Europe
>>519864058one parent doesn't work
whats the solution to /pol/s reddit poster problem?
>>519870971How would that prove the dysgenic are the ones having kids? Do you know what non sequitur means?
>>519861304Kids are stupid, they cost a fortune and are a pain in the ass.
>>519871107Yeah, don't let anything get in the way of whatever useless shit you do to fill the void.
>>519870640He 'only' consumes 1000 psyker's souls daily though, mind you these being selected and brought before the throne to get succ'd although that's a small price to keep Terra daemon free for one more day.
>>519861561Somebody has to breed and raise the next generation of goyim cattle. Most normies will happily step up to the plate and wage their life away for a chance to reproduce. I'm just glad that's not me.
>>519870732What makes you think I missed the point? I just added onto it that the proportion that doesn't want kids shouldn't even be relevant if those wanting them lived by their words.
>>519871070Retards, niggers, muslimes, jeets, and spics are destructive to a country. They pop out their shitty brown parasitic offspring faster than civilized humans can raise proper children. Unless you can cull the invasive parasites the proper humans will continue to be out numbered.
>>519871202How are kids useful, to who are they useful, and why should anon care?>>519871245There you are! Took you a while.
>>519861762That's pretty much how it works. Most "government" benefits feed the useless breeders.
>>519871213That's just psykers though. The loyalist imperial guardsman getting eviscerated by an Ork can still offer his soul to the God Emperor as he dies in the dirt of Armageddon.
>>519871070>inbred mohammed is just as genetically fit as british tommy>ambigous race glassy eyed 80iq mutt is the same as classic white american johnnyfirst day here or something?
>>519871245So why haven't you killed yourself yet then? If there is no hope for the future, then why continue to persist? Why not just get a high score and log off?
>>519861304Population collapse can't come soon enough.It's our only hope for a brighter future.
>>519871495Maybe being childless allows a man to avoid becoming goyim nigger cattle?
>>519871248The point was how OP's post contradicts itself. But YOU went off on a tangent about someone else picking up your slack, which had nothing to do with what I said. So not only did you miss the point of my original comment, you also missed the point of my comment explaining how you missed the point.Good work.
>>519861304You realize if you don't make at least 80 grand cps comes in and forcibly takes your children. Just don't have them they aren't worth it. Let migrants have kids like theres no money or incentive for your child anyway unless it's rape and murder if there white when there 11
>>519871533>Population collapse can't come soon enough.Nothing ever happens. They will just import infinity pajeets or nigerians or whatever
>>519871330>"How is continuing my genetic line useful?"Just shut the fuck up.
>>519871589You overestimate yourself. Nobody had any difficulty interpreting what you said as it wasn't clever or insightful in any way. That you feel the need to elaborate goes to show how little human contact you've experienced since you think so highly of your posts. I'm allowed to go on a tangent when it's still very clearly on-topic.
>>519871747>but muh DNA>s-shut the fuck up if you disagree!And there we go. RETARD ALERT! RETARD ALERT!
I feel like I spend too much time on my computer and a woman would get bored of that, and I also worry that a family wouldn't be as rewarding as the creative work I do (which I only got into in the first place to supplant the lonliness and boredom)
>>519861304>and theyre deciding early in lifeMeaning children are hedonists who dont think into the future.
>>519871554Perhaps being a compliant prisoner is the truest form of freedom there is.
>>519862043>i cant have children because of concientious economic reasonsMeanwhile 69iq niggers with no money have a new child every year.
>>519871822On the contrary. My future is brighter because I'm not burdening myself with marriage and family.>>519871839Do explain.
>>519861462our parents had kids believing we would have a better life. we're not having kids because we KNOW they won't have a better life. are you a jew or just a retard that does not understand this?
>>519871747>Muh heckin' blood line!!!Why are normies like this?
>>519871284>>519871427It is the genetically healthy individuals having kids. Jackass. In the US, that is the religious, conservative types. birth rates are above replacement levels. The dysgenic types are not race specific. You need only look at anitfa types to see this. But we'll ignore that particular part of your stupidity for now. Invades races, Muslims, Squatemalans, etc. have plummting birth rates, while white religious, conservatives are stable, even rising in many places.You two are fucking stupid. I mean that with every fiber of my being. You are dumb. You think the shit you read here is reality. It isn't. Go the fuck outside.
>>519871747It's not useful at All. Especially if your ugly or poor. Why would another worker drone be useful for anything
>>519871914Being a prisoner means that you never have to worry about shelter or food and by not rocking the boat for the wardens, you are rewarded with less beatings and maybe even some goodies. Don't worry about the outside world and learn to love your cage. That is true freedom. Just don't rock the boat, act out, or ask the wrong questions and you have true freedom.
>>519871768The only thing I over estimated was you. That's three times in a row that you have missed the fucking point.
>>519861304>nobody>1 in 5…
>>519871533except the remaining population will be 90% niggers and jeets. lookin' real bright, eh faggot?
>>519872110In Canada it's 43% whiteWhen the boomers die it's 21% white and fallingIf you can afford to eat or rent why bring a kid your not going to support into life
>>519872142It absolutely is useful, but not to you personally. Refer to my first post.>>519872165Childless men have more free time and fewer movement constrictions. Are you sure you want to use this analogy?>>519872179Broken record. Don't reply to me anymore.
>>519872142And you don't see how your comment contradicts itself?Read it to yourself out loud or to other people in your house. See if they can pick up on it...
>>519871914>My future is brighterLol that's subjective. Your genetic prerogative is a legacy. The easiest way to accomplish that is sexual reproduction, but please tell us what great contribution will have your name sung through the ages. Surely, your future is so bright you have some idea of what your fame will be.
>>519872242Bro half the people in this thread completely missed it.
>>519872242And? Women don't want kids. Especially when the white men won't help instead play games and Lego while women work
>>519872291LMAO wait up, mommy made me pancakes. I'll be back when I slop them up.
>>519872287I'm actually wealthy. And know kids are useless. Esp when you can bring in migrants to have kids
>>519872110You need to grow the fuck up and stop talking about things you don't understand. Billions of jeets, niggers, and squatemalans comtinue to be equal to or higher than White birthrates in their home countries it doesn't matter that niggers in the us are reproducing less than Whites since they're still breeding like parasites in Africa where they can be imported to Europe and America. There are more jeets in India right now than there are Whites alive, and the jeets are a lot younger of a population.
>>519861304The world doesn't need more humans
>>519861462Essentially what it boils down to. Everything else from muh economy to muh society is a fucking excuse especially when compared to the fact that people were having kids during the fucking Black Plague
>>519862043>>519871884Proving yet again that fertility is naturally dysgenic and that "government" gibs exacerbate this problem exponentially.
>>519871554This! You nailed it.
>>519872265Perhaps I misunderstood you. Perhaps you are advocating for the death of the European man.
>>519872438They owned there own homes and had disposable income Timmy. Learn to read a book nigger
>>519872264>People aren't having enough kids>Why have kids?You are fucking stupid. I mean absolutely fucking retarded. There are only two reason you could say something like this and mean it. One is if you're stupid and you don't understand anything. We've covered that already. Two is if you're brown and trying to demoralize White people, which doesn't work because everyone sees through it. So that ultimately means you're stupid for 2 reasons instead of 1. Being wrong and brown at the same time.
>>519872483I ask you the same question >>519871495
>>519861304I wouldn't say that they don't want kids. All the the women I dated in their 30s that were childless all told me that they wanted children but after getting to know them better it became apparent that they weren't willing to put any effort into making it happen and it became apparent that even if they did they wouldn't have been very good moms anyways.
>>519872396You're nothing of the sort. You're an internet larp'ing faggot.Just remember, you are not anonymous. And no a VPN, doesn't work. Nor does Linux and all their shitty little tranny tools make you anonymous.
>>519872110>but muh amish! Muh mormons! Muh small towns!If you haven't figured it out yet they can just nuke those small towns with airdropped somalians
>>519872576Youre a retard. There's no reason for a white woman to have a child in a western nation.Bring in migrants let them do it.
>>519872258>lookin' real bright, eh faggot?Not really since there will be no one left to keep the lights on. (Cheers?)
I could have kids but I'm not>"going out">going across the country to visit her parents>traveling>buying things for the kids>going to parties and suchsimple as
>>519872327Agreed. As you said in another post>You think the shit you read here is reality. It isn't. Go the fuck outside.These retard shut-ins are so blackpilled by being on here constantly that they’ve lost sight of things going on in the real world. I live in a liberal-ish southern city and despite that there are a LOT of young white families with 3+ kids around. I’m convinced that while there’s a degree of truth to the demographic decline narrative, it’s greatly exaggerated to demoralize and to justify mass immigration.
>>519861304>/r>wtfdetective.blog>260+ replies
>>519872706What's it like not living in a gated community and living with migrants. Is that why you want to rape a white girl and get your dick wet.She will always abort a white child
>>519861304Jews are using their control over the banking system and their ability to steal wealth from financially ignorant normies through inflation, is pricing the average person out of reproduction.
>>519872739You deserve to die alone then. >>519872660Applies to you as well.
>>519864192Western countries are just poisonous to the soul. You can drop a Mexican breeding sow into America and within one generation their kids immediately stop breeding
>>519872761>dude look at my anecdote!I'm telling you the statistics are grim and you are coping. The last century was a massive fuckup.
>>519872864That's fine, doing things you don't wanna do to have a wife and kids would be a worse predicament
>>519861304I do but cant afford it.to have kids I would first need 1 million for a girl to want to breed with methen I would need 2 million for myself to retire, and 2 million for each kid I have up to college
>>519872975You deserve to be eaten by somali niggers then.
>>519861304>economy in shambles because of greedy degenerate fucks>corporations using corrupted politicians to push migration of subhumans who fuck everything further>subhumans from shitholes breed like bugs and live on walfareEverything going to shit, no one sane want to bring new life into this hell...
>>519873069You sound butthurt
>>519861449this is literally the world we're creating. We're consuming resources. We're creating resource scarcity. We're selecting for groups which tolerate resource scarcity. This concludes the lesson. Any Questions?
>>519869427>I dont understand this reference you mention>despite knowing its a cartoon>and despite it being commonly referenced on 4chanYour "too-cool-and-above-it" feigned ignorance isn't tricking me. Sorry, kid.I agree with you though, but only for non-whites.
>>519872710Your time is limited here. Remember that.
>>519872864Triggerd? Kek
>>519872971>muh statistics Remember the vax? Remember how the vax rate percentages varied wildly from article to article, but all were pushed specifically to make you feel like an isolated loser for not getting it? Stats, like everything else “official” in modern clown world, need to be taken with a considerable scoop of salt.
>>519862479The explenation for how you are retarded is youve rationalized yourself into being infertile. Where as other infertile organisms are typically victims of contamination or disease, you are doing it to yourself with your own willpower.
>>519861561I had a couple and they're a pain in the ass. if I could do it over again I'd probably not do it. I want more time to myself. Its not for everyone.
>>519873157If you would rather continue to "do your own thing" than work toward the future, you will be eaten by the children of whoever does make it there.
>>519872824What's it like pretending to be something you're not and failing to use proper punctuation?You are as transparent as glass, brownoid.
>>519873204You will get beaten, smothered, and eaten by niggers in a retirement home with that attitude.
>>519873331Other peoples' children will eat me?
>>519869660cool fanfic, tyrone
>>519861304I'd love to have two or three kids. I'm sure my parents would go out of their way to take care of them too.
>>519861895Childlessness is cringe imo. Just like homosexuality. I see myself first and foremost as some kind of animal in its habitat. Evolution dictates I should reproduce. So, I do that. Childless individuals got distracted by other, less important. This led to them becoming an evolutionary deadend. Which is kinda embarrassing, i. e. cringe. Humans feel this very cringe as regret. Being a biological failure.
>>519864349my parents have jobs too
>>519872291>Lol that's subjective.It's also objective if you think in terms of how much time, money and energy I'll free for myself.>Your genetic prerogative is a legacy.You didn't use that correctly but I'll assume you meant that my legacy is the genetic prerogative. It is also a prerogative of every living thing and is only so because of the mechanism of natural selection. There is no personal benefit to obeying this prerogative.>The easiest way to accomplish that is sexual reproduction,You vastly overestimate the legacy you'll have by imparting 50% of your DNA onto a few people among billions. Even if almost everyone in the world became your direct descendant, what did you profit from it?>but please tell us what great contribution will have your name sung through the ages>Surely, your future is so bright you have some idea of what your fame will be.Absolutely everyone that did become so glorious accomplished it by doing things other than reproducing (regardless if they did that or not). Moreover, if your only definition of a "bright future" is fame and glory, then what are you doing to achieve it? Are you aware of the fact that in most likelihood you never will? Does that mean that your future is bleak? That's a very pessimistic outlook.
>>519861304Anyone have that webm of that woman on stage that was a career woman saying how she was betrayed by feminism and telling young women to not fall for the scam because she wants to be a mom and now can't?
>>519873430No I won't but you sound clueless and detached from reality though.
>>519873481If swedes like you fail to reproduce, you surrender your future to people who do not fail to do that. Your education, wealth, and technology will not matter when you are functionally extinct and there are 50 million hungry niggers that want to steal what you have left.
>>519861561>>519861895Deciding early not to have kids is even worse. They'll put it off and if they change their mind it'll likely be too late, mid-30s for women is when regret will likely kick in.I'm sure many are looking for the right man.
>>519873617Oh really? What's your plan then? Are you going to go for a highscore? That's the only other acceptable alternative.
>>519869999checked but we need to use our time on earth to fight evil insteadChrist is KingSt George protect us
>>519873658I'm not ethnically Swedish though
As it turns out, when you spend 40+ years making the culture all about "Fuck you, got mine" and working your life away to achieve that, makes alot of people NOT want to have kids.The people who fully embraced this lifestyle see children as a liability. They cost a lot, they take up time, the kid might say/do something that gets the parents in trouble or "canceled". At best they are a fashion item that can be used for social posturing. Everyone else were raise as "Latchkey kids" since Gen X. They KNOW what it is like to be alone as a kid, they know how things used to be as a kid, but also the reality of today. You can't really take the kids of vacations. You can't do all the fun stuff while getting also making sure they have food on the table and a house to live in. Gen X/Millennials watched Gen Z be raised by the No child Left Behind system and social media, and don't want to deal with the retardation.
>>519873658You are indeed extremely butthurt for no reason. Just have more kids to compensate for us who won't. Simple as. Reproducing is victory, right? Have a dozen or more children. In fact, go have them right now. Save the wyatt race and become a legend.
>>519873731Kek you are such an obvious glownigger
>>519873792Balkanimal?
>>519869125>Conversely, what's so bad about having kids that you're so obsessed with not having them?I wouldn't mind having kids it's dealing with feminist indoctrinated women and the constant threat of divorce / having them taken away that I have a problem with.If I could easily find a virgin wife, have her stay home and do most of the child care, easily pay for it on one salary and reasonably expect I won't get divorced and she won't turn into a heinous bitch 5 or 10 years down the line I would totally have kids.
>>519873666Yep exactly but the thing is that it's too late for most of them by then.
>>519869125Is having kids a casual activity that takes little time, money and effort? No? Then the question is, "Why would I want them?", not, "Why would I not?"
>>519861561kill youself you stupid rat shill probably an ugly pig looking like german too with your ugly pig face and ugly pig ways go get your chest shit on you worthless sack of garbage i hope your child dies i hope they turn into a druged out whore who sells their asshole and mouth for cash i hope you unborn child dies you worthless fucking retarded loser>i have 3 children and i spend my time online posting about what a dead beat loser i am who dan cum in a whore
>>519862183abused from cradle to the grave, but im the problem
>>519861304>reddit screenshot>r/EverythingScience>SudhaSameera>Social Sciences>wtfdetective.blog
>>519873811Traitors before enemies.>>519873837You're literally an anti-natalist. In fact, just log off at this point. No one would even miss you.
>>519861762Giving men the carrot instead of the stick is worse than torture to man-hating tradcucks like you. Why are you like this?
>>519861304Women only want children once they're too ugly and barren to reliably whore around
>>519873805And it's not even that people were wanting to have to spend so much time working to get "theirs" it's also that since 08 the younger generations had to work a lot just to survive
>>519874129I'm a traitor for not having kids? Am I not blowing out the pussy bubble by making more women single and easier for you to mate with? I even live with my parents so as not to occupy real estate that could be used by a childmaxxer. How does my existence perturb you?
>>519874274It's because you are not doing what you should be doing.
>>519874250You see the world clearly. If a woman is attractive, she'll delay motherhood until simp attention stop coming in. Only physically flawed women can be reliably found in "le trad" circles.
Children aren't even the problem, they can happily adapt to most situations. The problem is women who expect men to submit to a certain culture and lifestyle, most fathers are also too stressed out and oversocialized to even realize it happening
>>519867945>systems dont matter, only individualswrong
>>519874378That's a very encompassing definition of a traitor. You could execute a better part of any population by accusing them of not participating in revolutionary action or the war effort, which I'm sure you understand most people indeed never do even in such times. Could it be that you're overblowing the "sins" of childless men? We're even actually helping you out more than we're working against you, as I've explained in the previous post.
>>519874431That's a good point. For all of history of mankind it was the female submitted to the male but now its the husband has to submit to the wife or that is the way the majority of the people see it anyways.
>>519874734Who could have predicted this?
>>519874378i tried to get with women, they didn't want me
I started to have kids because I had nothing better to do.I had fun in my 20s. Humped about - lived and worked across the world. I found myself just working and playing games. Dull.. so had kids and ive really enjoyed it. Difficult but a good laugh.I don't feel like im losing out on doing stuff or money.. cause I wasnt doing anything anyway, basically.
>>519874378>should be doingSays who? And why should I care what some shitposter or ideologue think I should do?
How do we know that's even different from how it has always been? Maybe the only difference is that the other 4/5 either can't manage to have any kids or only have 1-2, but 150 years ago those same people would've easily had 6 to 8 children instead, resulting in a bad fertility rate. A TFR of 2.1 doesn't mean that every woman becomes a mother who has 2-3 kids, that's strictly impossible since not all women can have kids, not all women are fuckable, not all women make it to marriage age, and at least a few perfectly wifeable women will just slip through the cracks for miscellaneous reasons. TFR 2.1 probably means that the 80% of women who manage to become mothers have 5-6 kids apiece, with a few outliers at 3-4 or 7-8.I'm also disinclined to believe the statistic's even true since it mentions "early in life," it's something like 90% of girls in their teens/early 20s who say they never want kids, has been for a long time. They still went on to do it, from the mid 20th century all the way to recently. When a young girl answers that she doesn't want to have kids, most of the time what she's saying is that becoming a mother seems very scary and she's not sure she can do it. Every mother has felt that way.
>>519874793He was spot on
>>519874799Just dedicate at least a decade to making good money and debtmaxxing for a home so you can marry a single mother or some uggo. Anon requires it from you or he'll have you killed when the race war begins!
world controlled by a sect of pedo sychopats, genocide on going live to everyone to see to put a sample of what punishment will happen if anyone get out the line, still want to have kids to live in hell...its normal dumb ass
>>519874917lmfao, maybe thats why i repel them because i actually demand performance,i dont accept bread crumbs
>>519861304There is nothing more unattractive that a woman that says she doesn't want kids. It's in a woman's biology to want children.
>>519874378you're the one with the guns, you're the one who isn't doing what you should be doingyou're a scared little pussy, all bark no bite and that's all you're ever going to be
>>519874793The "equality" is enforced at gunpoint by the state. I've never met a woman I couldn't overpower.
Not my problem.
>>519875172Of course, but the state always dictate the laws, and not mere brawns. In a state of anarchy or prehistory, even if you physically dominated a woman, that wouldn't make you invulnerable to less honest ways of violence. You can get poisoned, stabbed in your sleep, etc. The reason why men need to have more rights over women is because we already have more responsibilities and always will in almost every area of life.
>>519869125It's not the same as eating beans or whatever you retard, it requires effort and dedication to seek a good partner and be a good father.
>>519873219you are right to question official narrativesbut look at how much activity this thread generatedthat alone tells you something is going on worthy of discussion
>>519873179I specifically said that I don’t “fully understand” your reference.There’s an irony in you calling me “kid” when you regularly watch cartoons.
>>519874896Before ww1 childless rate was around 20% for women. Silent gen/early boomers had lowest rate of childlessness, but fertility rate dropped because less children.
>>519873996Wow, aren't you a mad little fellow?
>>519869752true, my dad sabotaged me my whole life, covertly
>>519869841i hear you bro
>>519865688if things get that bad it wont matter retard. ill use my last 10,000$ on a wheelchair bomb at that point.
>>519869752>crybaby underage faggots whining about gramps instead of jewsAre you paid to deflect jewish propaganda or do you just have a double digit IQ and project all your failures on someone else like a woman or nigger? Not a chance you're white, btw.
>>519868887the numbers dont matterrecently a survey was done that showedthat men prioritize children more than womenthats the real issue
