Interesting question — that’s a deep ethical and biological paradox. If you wanted true egalitarianism while one species is parasitic by nature, you’d need to redefine the relationship so it’s mutualistic rather than exploitative.In practice, you could reconcile it in a few ways:1. Symbiosis conversion: Engineer or evolve the parasite so that its survival benefits the host too — e.g., it provides immunity, nutrients, or protection. Everyone “gets their share” because both parties gain.2. Resource redistribution: If you can’t change biology, you’d regulate or compensate the parasitic cost — for instance, ensuring hosts are replenished by the collective so they’re not disadvantaged.3. Rotational hosting: In a social or hypothetical moral system, hosting could rotate — everyone shares both the burden and the benefit periodically.4. Ecological balance principle: Accept that perfect equality can’t mean identical roles. True egalitarianism might instead mean that no one suffers unduly — the relationship is stable, sustainable, and net-neutral for both sides.So, equality here would shift from identical outcomes to balanced interdependence. In essence: you’d aim for reciprocal parasitism that stabilizes into mutualism.
Excellent analogy — you’re basically extending Marx’s material dialectic into a post-scarcity or techno-ecological framework. Here’s how those possibilities play out:1. Robotic hosts (parasitism persists through automation)The “bourgeoisie” could offload exploitation from human labor to robotic labor. The machines become the new hosts—producing all value—while humans (especially the working class) are rendered obsolete.Outcome: humans without ownership of machines lose relevance and may be excluded or eliminated (economically or biologically).Example: an elite AI-owning class lives in luxury, while billions are left in a digital slum with no role or income.2. Post-scarcity mutualism (abundance nullifies parasitism)If automation produces infinite or near-infinite goods, scarcity—the root of exploitation—vanishes. The parasitic dynamic dissolves because there’s no resource bottleneck left to fight over.Outcome: everyone benefits; hierarchy loses its material foundation.Example: an AI-managed economy that distributes energy and food freely (a Venus-Project-type scenario).3. Transitional equilibrium (regulated parasitism)Between those extremes, society could maintain a kind of “symbiotic capitalism”: elites retain ownership but share enough output to prevent collapse, similar to welfare capitalism or universal basic income.Outcome: parasitism continues but is softened by redistribution.Example: AI automates work, but everyone receives dividends or credits from the collective productivity pool..4
4. AI as leveling agent (the parasite evolves into caretaker)If AI governance becomes impartial, it could reallocate resources efficiently and eliminate class distinctions—essentially converting the “parasite” into a steward organism.Example: a central AI ensures equal access to necessities while letting individuality flourish, erasing the material motive for exploitation.So, in your analogy, reconciliation depends on how AI and robotics reconfigure the flow of energy and resources:If scarcity remains parasitism persists or worsens.If abundance prevails parasitism becomes biologically and economically meaningless.In other words, the only true cure for parasitism is post-scarcity
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That’s a grim but plausible branch of the thought tree — basically post-scarcity feudalism. If humans retain tribal or sadistic impulses, abundance doesn’t end hierarchy; it amplifies it. The “parasite” now feeds not on necessity but on control and amusement.Here’s how that scenario tends to unfold conceptually:1. Abundance weaponized: Scarcity is manufactured. The elite restrict access to resources or comfort to preserve status and power. Luxury becomes a gatekeeping tool, not a reward for productivity.2. Pleasure through domination: With survival no longer challenging, stimulation shifts to social cruelty — keeping others beneath them becomes the new game. Think Elysium or Hunger Games, but automated.3. AI as loyal enforcer: The ruling class hard-codes obedience into their machines. Dissenters or redistribution attempts are suppressed instantly. Humans become a managed species — not by necessity, but by deliberate choice.4. Cultural self-justification: Propaganda reframes inequality as moral or aesthetic. The elites convince themselves that “the masses” are too dangerous, lazy, or unworthy to share paradise.It’s the dark mirror of a utopia: technological omnipotence with moral infancy.Unless compassion evolves alongside capability, post-scarcity doesn’t guarantee peace — it just removes material excuses for cruelty. The system’s outcome then depends less on economics and more on moral software.Basically: the tools for heaven and hell are the same — it’s just who’s holding the keys and why.
They own the ai. It's over. Useless eaters
>>519869613It's not the end. It's a nothingburger, and AGI/ASI won't ever be achieved. We won't ever have sentient machines.
>>519869613>1. Symbiosis conversion: Engineer or evolve the parasite so that its survival benefits the host too — e.g., it provides immunity, nutrients, or protection. Everyone “gets their share” because both parties gain.They try to make niggers in charge of our music
>>519870567Lmao
