Whose fault is the shutdown?
Republicans.
>>519936435dems. they do this all the time when Trump is in. its just their version of throwing a temper tantrum
Republicans can’t govern
>>519936435Congress. They shouldn't be getting paid to refuse to work with eachother.
>>519936435
>>519936435Niggers are already complaining about democrats not gibbing gibs
>>519936435It seems like both sides want a food stamps chimpout for different reasons.Classic case of government causing a problem so they can push through a “solution”Realistically nigs need to be weened off welfare slowly.
>>519936650Order out of chaos
The main thing to get it back up and running is putting words on paper that no money goes to illegals and democrats just wont do it.
>>519936707Ooga out of Booga
>>519936435The condition for the shutdown ending is a budget being passed. One side is voting to pass the proposed budget. One side is voting to not pass the proposed budget. Tough analysis
>>519936435>>519936493
>>519936753Visajeets and their families still need to eat
>>519936435Niggers and jews and women.>a black female jew enters the chat
>>519936435the republicans that rammed their retarded healthcare changes through the big beautiful billit gave the democrats something to stand on and started this whole mess
>>519936493>Republicans promised gibs and bennies to illegalsLol k
>>519936819>>519936753Question. What is your highest level of education? Because you sound very low iq and uninformed. Probably susceptible to maga brainwashing
>>519936541Americans don't get governed, bootlicking motherfucking faggot. Eat a dick and die. >>519936435>whose faultWho cares. Let it stay shut. The less those incompetent fucks do the better off the Anerican people will be. I hope it stays shut for the rest of the year at least. >>519936595Yeah, that.
>>519936753*scratch**freeze frame*Yup, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got here. Well it all started...
When the looting and shooting starts id blame all of them. They are taking 9 billion per month out of the economy but they are still charging taxpayers and they aren't even working but they are getting paid.
>>519936910Yes.
>>519936829No important context missing here? No bias either?
>>519936779
>>519936650realistically they need to take all the welfare programs and spend that money creating jobs so people are guaranteed employmentuntil they do that they cant bitch at people being unemployed. unemployment is a government created problem by allowing people to own vast quantities of resources so that someone cant just wander into the wilderness and harvest what they need. Our system requires most people have a job working for someone else. It must guarantee there is the ability to get a job. Failing that it must provide welfare.
>>519937033None. Democrats promised gibs and failed to deliver
>>519936435There's only 53/100 Republicans and they need 60 votes to pass the budget, Democrats keep trying to add pork to the budget like democratic programs for niggers in Africa, transgender mice research, grants for dams etc....7 Democrats can just vote and end the shutdown but they want to tell niggers that there's no EBT because of trump as if half of them can even vote.
>>519937087Republicans were the ones proposing gibs though.
>>519937103Why wouldn't they be able to vote?
>>519936650>nigs need to be weened off welfareAlmost all welfare recipients need to be weened off it.We haven't even reached the apex of anger over welfare. When times are good, it's easier for people to not give a shit about welfare queens>oh well, even though the niggers are getting all this free shit I still have a better life and make *way* more money than they do But people no longer have that attitude when they are struggling too, especially when they don't qualify for welfare >I work and support the community, and I can't get any help, but these useless niggers get all their shit paid for? This is what's coming soon. When workers are getting laid off and tightening their budget and making sacrifices to stay afloat, and they see that welfare recipients don't have to worry, that's when things will get heated. That's when normies will start to realize they've been scammed their whole life
>>519937052There will be less jobs because taking 9 billion per month out of retail will be less profits and make no sense to hire more employees. When you take the timing of this into account this has the possibility of being the end of the United States government. The economy is going to be entirely collapsed by January and our populace is kind of crazy. Bot the game I would play if I was a politician that didn't want to get shot and have my family killed.
>>519937219Most niggers are felons
>>519936753That is already on paper, especially as it relates to this debate and shut down. 15 years ago we took on the ACA/Obamacare/Romneycare. It was written with a 15 year expiration date because Republicans swore up and down that there was a better solution and they would think of one soon and it would be so much better than whatever Obama touched. 15 years have come and gone, Republicans don't have a replacement for it, Democrats just want to renew it so next month can look like last month. Every behavior and program that benefits illegals will keep spinning no matter which way this goes. Being able to use the ER without regards to pay, anchor babies receiving federal benefits, state programs like those in Colorado covering illegals, all of that is outside of what is being contested right now. They are other pieces of legislation entirely. The debate is solely "Do we extend the ACA?" which offers zero benefits to illegals and coverage to certain specific non citizen residents such as those who have been granted asylum by the federal government.
>>519936924>hur dur what's your edumacationkys, pretentious faggot
>>519936435There are more than enough votes for the funding bill, but Democrats are blocking it. It's very clearly their fault.
>>519936435Pedos
>>519937200And yet its the democrats blocking it. Hmm
>>519936435Mine. I wanted this to happen.
>>519937200
>>519936819It's not even that. The votes are there to pass it but Democrats are blocking the vote
>>519937052>the government needs to be responsible for this So you want the least competent entity on the planet to be in charge of everything? >government decides that what America needs is nigger shit on every square foot of American soil>pays Americans minimum wage to negrify everythingYay, now we have the most niggerfied country in the world.Oh, and also>OK, so now that we've negrified everything, what do we do now? Back to square one, except in super nigger country.
>>519936435Also since we are all thinking itMy fren Katie is Vaxxed
>>519937227You're going to struggle more than you have ever seen in this country. This country is going to be mass chaos if 9 billion per month is just erased out of the economy. There are not enough jobs to put all those people to work. You'll see your company lose revenue because of this which will then lead to mass lat iffs through all industries. Pretty stupid game to play for government officials.
>>519937257Felons can vote in almost every state. In Maine and Vermont they can vote FROM PRISON.
>>519937383
>>519936435>Whose fault is the shutdown?epsteinrelease the files
Yeah, totally shocking that Democrats don’t want to negotiate after Trump spent the week posting AI clown videos of their House Minority Leader.Who could’ve guessed mocking the other side on social media doesn’t help budget talks? lol The shutdown isn’t a mystery, It’s Trump’s ego tanking the government
>>519937346you don’t even know what that means or understand what is actually going on. This is about credits given to hospitals and trump dismantling these credits that will shut down rural hospitals. But you are so uneducated and brainwashed you actually think the whole argument is hurrrrr durrr healthcare for illegals hurrrrrrr durrr. Stop watching your russian propaganda youtubrs retard
The pedos protectors who dont want the Epstein files coming out
Imagine being some miga retard eating rice and beans all through the holidays with no gifts for your children because repubs want to make healthcare too expensive for anyone that doesn't make above 100k per year. They'll vote Democrat next time. The economy is going to collapse and societal unrest is going to be absolutely crazy.
>>519937710This.
>>519937762My boomer dad who lives in moldy trailer and is also worried about how his EBT isnt going to refill says the shut down is because Democrats want to make kids into trannies and that's the single point of why I'm going to tell him to eat rice until Trump gives him his food stamps back. It's always interesting how all retards find a single point to explain why the government is going to let the economy collapse but it isn't their peoples fault.
>>519936909They didnt change anything the aca was set to expire. Are you lying on purpose or just because you're a fucking moron?
>>519937824>heh, we sure owned the libs
>>519937762Illegals can go back. You are a faggot.
>>519937227>Almost all welfare recipients need to be weened off it.the reality is only 20% or so of any modern society is economically productive and self sufficient, the rest will require welfare or UBI of some kind, otherwise they have no means of survival, the Constitution SAYS 'to provide for the general welfare', setting a rational tax policy to acknowledge this is the conundrum for any modern society which is why they will all collapse as once the rich own the media and politicians there is no way to enact any rational tax policy, game over, thanks for playing, please insert additional quarters to play again, oops sorry, system malfunction, shutting down now
>>519936435I'm thinking red team or blue team
>>519937824>the ones that dont need food stamps are gonna sufferLol k
>>519936435Democrats obviously.
Jews.
>>519936435Unironically 100%
>>519938037they wouldnt be able to get away with this if it was only about aca, they also demanded medicaid changes be reversed. The aca thing is just the most immediate happening they can point to and say 'look how terrible everything is!', the republicans are doing the same with snap. Both of these are small time in comparison to the medicaid changes and thats what this is really about.
>>519937290The republicans did come up with something better than obamacare. Not having obamacare.
>>519937290>Democrats just want to renew it so next month can look like last monthBut I don't want next month to look like last month. I want next month to look like illegal immigrants starving, unable to access benefits from U.S. government, the pregnant ones spontaneously aborting in fear and slipping around in their own babygore, and the the heavy THUMP-THUMP of helicopters overhead with DHS agents who're driven made by the desire to tear illegals apart with their own hands like fresh bread. We're gonna grab the brass ring on this one.
>>519938037You're the one that's lying, moron.
>>519936435Democrats, /thread
>>519938197You'll find out that when you just delete 9 billion dollars from our economy it doesn't lead to economic growth. Wal Mart wanted that money. Farmers wanted their wares to sell. Fertilizer suppliers wanted the farmers to be able to buy supplies. This is going to collapse the country and you'll probably find it difficult to make it to your job because people are going to light this country on fire over this.
>>519938309Oh so you're a sociopath who doesnt care about right and wrong. Dumb as dirt lying nigger. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/shutdown-day-20-senate-dems-004339460.html
So many Republican shills in this thread...>>519938421Kill yourself, shill.
>>519938365So people who live off gibs from the government are gonna burn down walmarts which live off gibs from the government. Sounds like a win-win
>>519938502Kill yourself, shill.
Miga retards are living in some weird as fuck algorithm controlled reality where taking 9 billion dollars out of the food industry will lead to cheaper prices and the ag industry will just sell their products at a loss so they can't plant or resupply for next season. Sounds like a good a time as any to start jew hunting.
>>519938502Yeah you'll be the winner!
>>519938579But Republicans are in charge, no?
How can you call it a shutdown of government if you are still paying taxes and they are still getting a yearly check
>>519938262>People go without coverage because they're young and relatively healthy, it'll be fine>It is suddenly not fine, they get cancer or some shit>Get a bill for twice their net worth, can't pay>Hospital still needs money>Ups the price of services to get enough profit out of the customers who are able to pay in order to make up for the customers who can't>This means insurance companies are paying more money>This interferes with their ability to buy the CEO's mistress a second summer home>They up the price for all of their customers, even those who have never made a claim>Some families get priced out>Go without coverage because they're young a relatively healthy, it'll be fineGreat system. Thankfully, employers have to pay the insurance bill for their full time employees which kick in at 38 hours worked. Unfortunately, you are being sent home after 37.5 hours of work.
>>519936493They changed their name to Russiapedoklans
662762yeah, true...Vermont is crazy like that. Both Burlington and Montpelier passed laws allowing illegal immigrants to fucking vote as well.
>>519938677Yes, but bills of this sort require a supermajority 60 votes.
>>519938755kek
>>519937824>Healthcare >Healthcare>HealthcareNigger, I have spent $0 on Healthcare in the last 15 years, and I'm in my 40s now. How much fucking "healthcare" do you fat fucks need?>I can't survive without my....healthcare! Then maybe you weren't meant to survive, you unhealthy, dysgenic fucktard.$0 in 15 years. What the fuck is wrong with you people? Why are healthy people like me propping up a system that helps you pass on your shitty dna to another generation? Why aren't *you* paying to have my seed spread around the country?As someone who has spent $0 on healthcare in the last 15 years, wouldn't it make sense to have fewer of you and more of me, paid for by you?
>>519938804So everyone is at fault.
All these retards arguing, and there's only one dominant political party in the US: AIPAC.
>>519936435It's always democrats.There hasn't been a government shutdown in decades where the republicans had the manpower to cause it because RINOS are always progressive leftist
>>519938858Democrats are at fault but you should really pay attention to your own shithole, achmed.
>>519938710Walmart and others already do this.I used to make 6 figures and tried to manage a rental property. Obamacare was always too expensive for me.
>>519938502I live off the gibs and I'm disabled. My family and I have no plans on burning anything down. We know it's the democraps fault because they want to pander to their voter base which are the illegals. No thanksgiving this year but fuck it, we just let everyone know to blame the Dems for this shitshow
>>519938847Lots of people need healthcare. This is why it's going to be hilarious to watch the boomer meltdown when this country goes so far left in the next elections since retards like you can't understand that taking billions of dollars out of circulation and just giving it to Israel and every other country so trump can skim a little off is not making life better for anyone. I guess if your entire mentality is to have more than the average nigger you'll be happy for this but you're also going to end up unemployed because of Trump's economic collapse. So you'll be worse off than you are now.
>>519938858No, not really. Dems are unironically holding out on their bullshut "healthcare" talking point. The budget could have passed 2 weeks ago if they stopped trying to stuff pork into it. This is 100% the democrat party's fault. Me personally, I'm fucking glad th government is shut down. The less those useless shits do the better.
>>519936435I didn't do it, but I'll take part of the blame.
>>519939022Holy shit, are all Americans this retarded, or are you just an outlier?
>>519939117They're still getting paid, retard, both Democrats and Republicans.
>>519938847Nigga not going to the doctor and taking care of yourself isnt the flex you think it is
>>519936435Its literally their summer break you dumb nigger >whos fault Whoever they decide to throw under the bus but its all a show, they love sitting on their ass for a month
>>519939112The left is being neutered as we talk. Youre not going to do anything faggot.
>>519939153They are actually this dumb now. They think collapsing the economy and putting themselves into debt for miga is a good thing. Meanwhile the Jew is already subverting the country back to the left so they are just losing things and then next president will take even more from them.
>>519936435I'am pretty sure its the Dems, all the republicans in the house are voting to open it but it seems the FEW DEMS of the house are basically shrugging in malcontent. Theres an article out there where one of these guys said if we vote to open our voter base will hate us.
>>519939217Whats your point muhammoud? Go back to your goat raping country.
>>519936435the GOP meta political (they let in the cheap labor and are pro capitalist)primary the Democrats as they don't want to cut healthcare for illegal aliens one of their core client groups
>>519938847Large numbers. If only 1% of the population is in need of healthcare at any given point, which includes injuries, then 3,400,000 people are in need of healthcare at that moment. So proud you ignored that symptom you had or whatever, but you are not the entire country
>>519936435the fault is all of congressthey should be the first ones to stop getting paid. they barely put in work anyway
>>519939153Holy fuck thats not an argument. Go back to your country muhammoud.
>when bad, Democrats>when good, Republicans
>>519938293None of that is on the table, anon. The Democrats could cave today and you wouldn't get a single one of those things. This is like being asked what you want to eat for dinner and your response being "I want 9/11 to not have happened". Thats not on the menu, sport.
>>519939304It's going to lead to lots of unemployed white people because taking out 9 billion dollars from circulation while still charging tax payers for the food stamps is a bad economic policy that leads to job loss and lower wages because job markets will be in shambles. Then people will remember who was in power while this happened so if you want your 3 more years of this and then snap to far left this is how you get it.
>>519939306>subverting their countryNice hiding your flag achmed.
>>519936435Jews
Poor people
>>519936523Kind of this. I have seen this shit so many times over the course of my many years. Not just trump. t. Old anon
>>519939490Whites are employed faggot. The ones who arent didnt vote for trump anyway. Go back to your country you fucking tranny.
>>519939217>hurr hurr>they still getting paidThat's fine. I'd prefer they weren't, but as long as they're not stucking their big jew noses into people's lives, it's an acceptable cost. The longer this goes on, the more it will show that you could close 90% of all federal government agencies and offices and it wouldn't affect the average American's life one bit. That's the point you utterly vacuous little faggot.
>>519939496I live in MO and lots of these white people are on food stamps and I don't know why they have to be punished because of Mexicans. When the Mexicans were here before and the poor whites were able to have a nice thanksgiving. Just seems like it isn't really a massive win and is more of a slippery slope that leads to increased crime all over the country.
>>519939153We don't even understand you chaos lines on your roads.
normative everybody expect the GOP to back down and prevent the big fallout of thisrationally I say it is different this time, emotional my normalcy bias says nothing is ever going to happen
>>519939304>The left is being neutered as we talk. Youre not going to do anything faggot.Exactly. I live in leftist central in the PNW and even in this zipcode (where 90%+ vote D) shit is falling apart. I mean, it's falling apart because it turns out 'leftist central' ALSO means 'most of us have shit jobs or we're on SSDI and all of us are on govt gibs'. IMO it seems like this is an own-goal by the DNC.
If you starve because the government lets you to prove their political theory just start shooting at them and blowing stuff up.
>>519939617>white people are employed >white people can't find jobs because of DEIWhich is it?
>>519939782Which is weird because it sounds anti-leftist. It all seems so very Jewish.
>>519939861both
>>519939782Also, holy fuckballs.
>>519936435It’s the jews fault. Followed by the niggers.
>>519939760Trump is happy to let this situation get out of hand because once food riots start he gets to declare martial law using it as an excuse. He's wanted to do it for ages, all he needs is an opportunity that he can make seem halfway legitimate.
>>519939705oi m8, just wiggle the steering wheel left and right. follow the lines
>>519938059you bet - is that a tall boy? sweet
>>519937729>posted straight outta camp humphreys
>>519940106trump doesn't need to use this as pretext if he wanted to declare martial law this is the democrats playing two of their core client groups against each otherillegal aliens (healthcare) versus poor fags (snap)historic the GOP always cavedthe democrats can not pick either of their client groups if they cut healthcare for illegals then one core draw would vanish or rather all blue states would instantly face a massive budget crisis
>>519937376If the democrats pass the budget we all voted for in 2024, they can pass their totally real and not fake and gay Epstein bill and win the primaries with the totally real and not fake and gay MAGA pedo angle that they chose to ignore in 2024.
>>519936435The opposite team of the one you worship did it. Just vote harder next time
>>519940191That sucks for trump that the military is running psyops against him. We are going to get to watch his execution on prime time tv!
>>519940125Seriously.
>>519940191thats the autistic dora gook
>>519937052the new deal was a colossal failure last time you expect it to work now that the majority of the people it would affect are brown?
GOP is clearly at fault. There is ZERO reason to change the medical credits payback system that helps ERs stay open. Being an ER can't legally turn hurt or sick people away. Due to the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act. Something Reagan passed into law in 86.Like WTF? The GOP knows the stats are something like over 50% of ER cost are those who can't pay. Yet the other option is what? Break a leg and fuck off! Just go die in that ditch over there from infection? Cutting the federal payments to cover the ER stuff isn't the BS lie of free health care for illegals. It's just covering ER costs for the poor. If it isn't in place all that happens is ER and rural hospitals with a high percent of poor people, even if citizens, are just going to close and everyone's insurance rates are going to go up. While also having to go farther for medical treatment being local smaller places close. this just isn't something the GOP should have messed with on any level. It's absolutely shitting on pretty much everyone. I don't even get how they can get away with the lie of oh it's funding illegals health care. We will all get screwed without some sort of ER payback funding.
>>519936493Nope both side are to blame leftist and rightwinger don't want to fix problems.
>>519936435how does it not get tagged all over during a shuitdown?
>>519940459I did an analysis of obamas economy way backFDR and Obama were collosal failures who didn't manage to create any economic activity by policy both had a massive monetary glut created by near zero interest ratestrump 1 policy caused an economic recovery the FED instantly gobbled the judicious positive policy gains up by raising ratesthen the dems pushed covid to crash the economy (bill maher called for that they wanted an economic crash)the ukraine war ruined any economic gains anyway in trump II
>>519940573>GOP is clearly at fault. There is ZERO reason to change the medical credits payback system that helps ERs stay openyou mean routine illegal alien healthcare?
>>519940106and i sopported down with democracy people are to stupid to rule themselves.
>>519939467>inability to process hyperbole as anything other than literal with vain affectations of authorityjust 1,181 more days anon. praying for you.
>>519940573>Being an ER can't legally turn hurt or sick people away.We should codify it so you can turn illegals down for emergency care.
>>519936435Whomever doesn't vote for a clean bill to fund the government. Simple as.This year its the dems and they're going to get fucked for it because the only narrative they have is>we cut off your pay and benefits so jobless niggers and illegals can have free healthcare.Rs will nuke the filibuster for continuing resolutions, fund the governmemt, and leave Dems holding the bag.
>>519936435Congress. Everyone in congress should be fired. Start emergency elections now
>>519940573Not my problem pablito
>>519940781>Rs will nuke the filibuster for continuing resolutionsthey won't its their favorite thing
>>519939257>being healthy and needing nothing from a doctor "isnt the flex i think it is"Cope harder, you unhealthy loser.That's like saying "having $100M isn't the flex you think it is."Nigger, in terms of health I'm a billionaire. Yes, being healthy and not needing to pay "doctors" is apparently a big deal, since not having access to doctors is apparently a big deal to you and many others.You are unhealthy because you either have shitty dna or lead a shitty lifestyle. You are below me and always will be. How fucking stupid are you?
>>519936836They can eat poo like they always do
>>519936493Dems obviously. Highjacking our food over their desire to give illegal aliens free healthcare
>>519936523Trump and the gop have all the power to open this shit back up. But they won't because they'd rather be sinister assholes and watch people suffer to push their gay Christian nationalist agenda.
>>519940872can you stop this partisan propaganda, go on fox news or something if you want to be this dumb
>>519937346So zero education, thanks for confirming
>>519936435Whoever folds first.
is we getting EBT in November?you guys realize that they are gonna loot on black friday even with a george floyd event it is the best pretext I think given my mental nigger simulator
I sopport a usa dictatorship
>Which is weird because it sounds anti-leftist. It all seems so very Jewish.Crooked politicians don't need kikes to help them make terrible political mistakes.>Also, holy fuckballs.Yes, exactly, and all that it implies- which is quite a bit when you think about it.>>519939913 >>519940012
>>519936928>Who cares. Let it stay shut. The less those incompetent fucks do the better off the Anerican people will be. I hope it stays shut for the rest of the year at least.okay but are you pleaased with zog politicans getting paid to do nothing? and youre the one paying them?
>>519936819It's not even a budget it is just extending current spending levels for like 7 weeks. So they can keep the Gibs flowing past tg.
>>519940872anon, your bait is bad, and you should feel bad.
>>519936435ESL detectedShort answer: Democrats Long answer: Hegelian Dialectics
>>519940738>Hi I can see that you're having an emergency but real quick we need to do some paperworkThis can surely only end well
>>519940459>the new deal was a colossal failurethe new deal is what made america great to start withwith out it we would not have the infrastructure we have today, and far worse working conditions.we need a new new deal to fix the crumbling infrastructure. You cant do anything with out infrastructure.Trump should have built the wall in his first term as a massive public works program hiring and training anyone who showed up.
>>519936435who cares?
>>519937052The way to end unemployment is>end all welfare and unemployment benefits>end all guest worker programs>end minimum wage laws>imprison amyone found to be employing illegal immigrantsGuaranteed 100% employment within 10 months
>>519940680less than 1% of medicaid goes to illegals, and none of ACA does.
>>519940940No, it's because dems refuse to vote on a bill that doesn't include taxpayer-funded sex-change surgery for illegal immigrant children. It could end at any time, but that's the line in the sand that they drew and they refuse to compromise on it. I'm sure the starving niggers will understand that it's all for the greater good.
>>519936435Dems holding up the vote until illegal aliens can get free Healthcare, meanwhile actual American citizens suffer from shut down.It's really that simple, no matter what the democrats say.
>>51994132550million illegals who go to ER rooms as routine medical care are a massive expense I do not care where you move them in your budget or how much you play hide the ball
>>519941319They want people to be dependent on the government. They base this on the assumption that the masses are less likely to bite the hand that feeds. In the most literal sense.
>>519941395they can't even admit that it is about healthcare, some dems and dem shills do by accident
>>519937290It has a 15 year expiration date because of muh Republicans.The fact 0 Republicans sponsored or voted to pass the aca determined that was a lie. Kys faggoy
>>519941319>jobs will just magically appear if we end minimum wagepeople can already weave baskets and sell them on etsy for a tiny income. We dont need more creative ways to not make enough money to live on.>>519941475ok but that costs less than 1% of the medicaid program and millions of citizens are getting screwed over by the cuts
>>519941568john mccain and robert kennedy did the ACA
>>519937729Thats fine. It's not like people who vote R are on foodstamps and the ones that do will blame the Democrats. Redistricting will garuantee a Republican House for the next decade and we've already got 53% of the Senate on lock
>>519941609it costs probably 200-300billion thats common sense and napkin mathI do not care if you distribute it over the entire insurance system, hospital health care cost raises, individual government funding programsit is a massive redistribution of the poorest americans to fund their own labor competitionstop being such a ruthless capitalist
>>519936435Republicans control:>house of representatives>senate>White House>supreme courtHmm… this is a hard one
>>519940573Its simple. Just stop finding illegals. Democrats arw throwing Americans under the bus for non-citizens.
>>519936493nope, jews. why do you try to take accountability away from jews when it comes to financial crimes?
>>519938365I guess they'll just have to be economically productive too instead of get fat off of gibs.
>>519941639most red states are heavily on foodstampsyou are gambling that they are too stupid to know where the cuts came from>>519941685it has nothing to do with healthcare for illegals. Not only does it not cost that much, the entire point of trumps deportation campaign would make it a non issue to start with. Despite this clear logical contradiction they still push for it out of idiotic free market dogmatism.
>>519938365I don't shop at WalMart. Too many niggers and other browns.I hope this shit goes on until next June.
>>519941613uhhh, Germanon, RFK was dead in '68. Do you mean Ted?
>>519941697>what is a 60 vote thresholdgo drool quietly in the corner
>>519941697It's truly a mystery (for migatards)
>>519936435Corrupt Oligarch dick sucking government which routinely can't decide if it wants to support the American people or if they should all die to funnel trillions into the elites already excessively deep pockets.
>>519941705They can't stop now. Their strategy for 30+ years has been to brown America and milk illegals for votes (and a cut of the gibs).We are approaching D-Day, where the democrats either break through and succeed with their plan, or die on the beach. Retreating at this point means dying on the beach.
>>519936493SOOOOO CLOSE>AIPAC
>>519938710>suddenly not fine, they get cancer or some shitSshouldn't have gotten vaccinated desu
>>519941775Only sane person in the thread
>>519936493Narcissistic, hypocritical answer. It's your fault and we know it.
>>519941863sorry anthony kennedy the judge sorry not robert>>519941821>it has nothing to do with healthcare for illegals. it does, they get federal funding for this via the emergency rooms which are repurposed as routineheatlcare provider
>>519941639>biggest percentage is redneck white retardsLMAOOOO
>>519941821>the entire point of trump's deportation campaign would make it a non-issueOnly if the deportations actually happen, and democrats are fighting tooth and nail for the illegals, so your logic is wrong.>healthcare spending on illegals is a small amount The hell it is. It is a huge amount and that money should either be spent on citizens or given back as part of a tax break.
>>519941890the democrats will try media pitty porn for a while and then switch to the or else part currently they are self disciplined in messaging right nowI think they will go for it in november and do mostly peacefull arson and when called out>let our people eat they are hungry for TVs and consoles
>>519937290>The debate is solely "Do we extend the ACA?" which offers zero benefits to illegals and coverage to certain specific non citizen residents such as those who have been granted asylum by the federal government.Those are the same thing you disgusting fucking lying jew. This is the same exact pilpul used during the debate about Haitians. "They have a legal status".Biden used a loophole to call the illegal invading filth "asylum seekers" which is exactly what you are doing here you jew
>>519939782>overlay a heatmap of niggers and beans in the US onto a welfare map>no changeImagine my shark
The votersThey vooted for this
>>519942015>largest demographic is the largest recipientyour grade 5 math skills are showing Juan
>>519938710I always thought this was a crappy argument. How many people actually need actual medical care versus needing a doctor to run a few tests and write a prescription for something that would have dozens of generics if it wasn't for (((patents)))?Why do I need trillions of dollars in permits and malpractice insurance to give some fat retard a blood test that would diagnose their type 2 diabetes?Why can't I manufacture my own insulin?Why do I need some Indian to sign a piece of paper before I can get medicine?
>>519942293normies
>>519942002It costs almost nothing. The great savings they touted with the cuts is not coming from that, its coming from citizens.You are also ignoring that that number will continue to decrease as more people get deported.>>519942032>Emergency Medicaid spending represented less than 1% of overall Medicaid spending between fiscal years 2017 and 2023. Spending on Emergency Medicaid was $3.8 billion in FY 2023 and was 0.4% of total Medicaid spending that year (Figure 2). Emergency Medicaid spending reimburses hospitals for emergency care they are obligated to provide to individuals who meet other Medicaid eligibility requirements (such as income) but who do not have an eligible immigration status.
>>519941381>taxpayer-funded sex-change surgery for illegal immigrant children
>>519941639Oh, so your plan is to rely on gerrymandering and voter suppression instead of actually winning people’s trust?Sounds like a strong democracy you’ve got there lol
>>519942403>who do not have an eligible immigration status.s it is about healthcare for illegals
>>519941609>We dont need more creative ways to not make enough money to live on.You can always start picking fruit at $30/hour
>>519942497wasn't korea a military dictatorship until last week or something?
>>519936435The purple party (i.e. all of them)
>>519941821Red states (read the South) are chock full of niggers anon
>>519936435The jews. It's always the jews.
>>519942293Doctors being saddled with ridiculous debt from an education system designed to exploit, having things like malpractice suits eating away at their desire and capacity to help people, and the population being strangled by big pharma owning things that should not be owned are all very real issues that need to be addressed but we still need something to keep us on our feet as we work towards that. You know undoing that horrible knot is going to take years and years with the amount of money that gets spent to keep things how they are. Programs like the ACA or Medicare for All are a big part of how we can even afford to pick that fight.
>>519938847I needed $10000 in "healthcare" which amounted to getting an antibiotic and sitting in a hospital bed for a few days while nurses checked my vitals until I checked myself out. In a sane world, I could have administered my own antibiotics and checked my own vitals which I do anyway.Like welfare, the whole system is retarded and broken and libs only want to make it more broken and more retarded to benefit a few more goblinos who are barely smarter than animals.
>>519941697>Dems filibuster bull that would restart SNAP benefits>hurr-durr this is the Republican's fault lol. I can't wait for the November videos of obese niggers complaining >who gon pay to cant feed dey keedsCA is calling out the guard to manage food pantrys for poors. I can't wait for the food riots in LA and Oakland
>>519942663he's a redditard, niggers and spics do not exist, except for when their heavy presence can be ignored by all stats, and instead have all of it dumped on rural Christian White men as the reason for the souths various problem
>>519942015>16% of the population uses 35% of the benefits>it's totally not niggersThis is your argument?
>>519941613You are retarded German kys you can't even get nuclear energy. I predict a very cold winter lol. Burn the coal and pay the toll.
>>519943290I don't even need to heat in this region of germany lol
>>519943140the rare lucid leafpost
>>519942928>eats ass that gets fucked on the daily by random faghots>wonders why he's sickanon...
>>519941381So the gop can come to a compromise, but won't? They can end this, either by negotiating, or Trump can just end it or put benefits back up, but keep the shut down going. This is basic power move 101, to make people hangry and then blame your enemy. It's not very hard to see what's going on.
>>519942928antibiotics are a non replenishable resource and have to be carefully precribed
>>519942517>0.4% of spending was on illegals>Which means 99.6% was spent on legals>This is why we need to redo this whole program which is clearly designed to subsidize illegals>Hospitals should simply do paperwork before offering any treatment in an emergencyInterdasting
>>519936840holy fucking lmao
>>519936435Almost all problems come from women and simping.Women are the enemy that plays both sides.All philosphies and systems will work if people cooperated and were fair, honest, reasonable, etc(overal good) with eachother.But women are always dishonest, manipulative, uncooperative, selfish overall inherently evil.They see men build something amazing and every single time they go and destroy what we've built and play victim to steal from it until it loses all of it's quality and becomes completely corrupt. They're parasites who will do anything to turn men against eachother.They're the reason our competitive spirit sometimes goes overboard.They're the reason a joke is taken too far.They're the reason problems exist.They're the reason wars exist.Simps are just blinding themselves by playing along with them until so much damage is done that even the most pro-women guys eventually turn against women. But by the time this finally happens they're now in the minority and are stuck dealing with other younger simps and women actively corrupting everything in their path.Pretty soon the number of men who have suffered from this will grow so large that we will overthrow this faulty system all at once in every country but sadly we're in the worst times.The ones who are currently 30-50 and younger will probably end up suffering the most until the number of sufferers grows so much as to become unignorable.This is what happens when you believe women morons. Record this in history and NEVER let it happen again.
>>519936493Fpbp
>>519936924But this is true, it's because there hasn't been an agreed upon budget. What does that person's level of education have to do with that statement?
>>519943198>>519942258cope
>>519943508>just give your enemy everything they want :)shut the fuck up, leaf
>>519936435>visit nigga.gov
>>51994353450 million illegals won't just take 0.4% of the healthcare budget
>>519943741>we must win against our political opponents and fuck over millions of citizens to do it!!The gop is fucked. They don't give a shit about your country. Neither do you.
>>519943741>They should compromise>But I should never compromiseI see
>>519942893Doctors created 90% of their own problems with the ama. Medicine could be split up into two groups of practitioners. You would have your practical practitioner whose main form of education is via an apprenticeship where they learn the trade. And then you have your specialists and experimentalists who have a more academic path.Imagine if every auto mechanic required an engineering PhD to tell you your thermostat is sticking or your spark plugs need replaced...
>>519937038>chimp wearing clothesAnyone else remember the 80s and early 90s when chimps in clothes was still a thing?
>>519942893You could undo 90% of that knot immediately by ending medical patents removing licensing requirements for hospitals and doctors. People like you pretend to care until it's actually time to do something about it. Then you say "it's too complicated" before burdening everyone with more administrative horseshit while the bad actors get away with whatever they want.Fuck You>>519943495It was a bacterial infection from a bug bite.>>519943529I needed one anyway, you obtuse faggot. No antibiotics and I would have died.
>>519943833It did in Fiscal Year 2023, with Biden's nefarious open border policy and lack of enforcement. So surely now that Trump is back in charge it would take even less.
ITS ALL PART OF THE SCRIPTBOTH SIDES WANT ITWAKE UP GOYSTHIS IS A SKIN SHEDDING MOMENT AND WERE PREPPING FOR WAR
>>519944033there is not just one version of antibiotics
>>519936435Well let's see... one side is trying to rule a country, the other throwing a hissy fit over illegal aliens.Did the Dems really expect anyone to take their side in this?
Hillary Clinton’s.
>>519936435In money matters, it is always Congress. They have budget control.
>>519943534Medicaid fraud is much more prevalent, but your midwit iq won't be able to understand that.
>>519937824A chimpout is just going to make Trump look even better, especially as Dems rush to defend it.
>>519944044why? it would take more now that the 10m+ are inside
>>519937506> “There’s not enough jobs, these niggers need dem programs”> “We have to import infinity jeets because there’s not enough people for all the work”Hmmm
>>519944128our people are hungry its the perfect excuse as said my operating theory is that chimpout is going to happen on black friday
>>519936435The party who votes no on the bill to reopen the government. Which in this case is democrats.
>>519936435Republicans. There isn't enough support for the bill, move the fuck on. He's going to look like a massive retard once the foodstamp payments stop. Absolutely torching the midterms.
>>519943833Go worry about kraut things, you hun bastard.
Republicans for not balancing the budget like they promised and instead passing an unnecessary tax cut, with no spending cuts too, that made the budget worse.
>>519936435jews
>>519944128I can't wait for dems to tell me that the nig is stealing to provide. Aoc in 3 weeks.
>>519936435Democrats demanded free healthcare for illegals, thus, this is on their heads.Fuck leftists and their retardation.
>>519944033>ending medical patents removing licensing requirements for hospitals and doctorsYou or I or the ghost of George Washington himself could speak in the senate about it, but we don't have the power. The people who hold the patents and dispense credentials would spend whatever it took to sway or install representatives away from our cause. It's not complicated, it's simple. You have two options. You can steer into the suck and make things worse and worse until people have nothing to lose and there's a boogaloo, or you do what you can to help people last just a little bit longer and make things just a little bit better. Pretending there's some third option where the people who have power are just going to give it to those without because lol is literally the most retarded thing in this whole thread.
>>519944307nigger
>>519944299Republicans control the house... this is just an unpopular bill, some Republicans aren't voting on it and democrats won't either. So it's going no where. Again, this is just a power move by the die hards and Trump himself. He can open everything back up, but he wants people to suffer. He desperately needs a huge reaction of any sort to have an excuse to gain more executive power.The easiest way to do that is to make people hungry.
>>519944456>if I keep lying maybe people will finally believe me
>>519944215>>519944427>ago we need mo money fo dat EBT>yall raciss an shiet *steals PS5*
>>519936435who cares. let it stay shutdown. bunch of useless fucks anyways
>>519936924Notice how he didn't say it wasn't true.
>>519944557Sorry, it’s true, and you know it. Scammer de,Andes illegals be rolled in on healthcare, and you are eating shit for your choice to elect such retards.Your party ass fucked themselves for the 1000th time this year, good work, you once again ensured you’ll fail in the future.And I can’t stand Trump, but your party is literal dogshit on my shoe.
>>519944531why can't the democrats remove healthcare from illegals?
>>519936435Women.
>>519944689it does make sense tho that black friday triggers it?I'm not seeing things
>>519943884kill yourself, nigger>>519943918yeah, it's called "leverage", you retarded fucking faggot
>>519944557Democrats are demanding a reversal of OBBB cuts, including cuts to Medicaid. Some of these Medicaid funds are used to reimburse hospital emergency rooms for giving illegal immigrants healthcare. This means, in effect, Medicaid was paying for illegal immigrant healthcare prior to the OBBB. The Medicaid that Democrats are insisting must be restored, so that, again, it can pay for illegal immigrant healthcare. No idea why you retards keep lying about this.
It's my fault. I caused all of this. I'd like to say I'm sorry, but I'm not. You all deserve this. Enjoy the collapse.
>>519944806Black Friday might be another surge of theft but I think it’ll happen before then. Less than one week without EBT and they’ll go fucking nuts.Black Friday will be chaos anyways so yeah it’s good cover for shitheads wanting to steal.
>>519944869its not all about that or what halts the bill, if democrats are not willing to remove the excuse then they own it
>>519936435Why gangstalkers still getting paid doe?
>>519944959you think the democrats don't want to milk a 2 week media cycle of lines at food bankshungry families and so forth before they go full BLM?
>>519944464> muh democracyMaybe we should start building guillotines, then, you stupid fuck? I don't care what some slave owning freemason thinks about the current state of affairs even if he agrees with me.Some boomers in red hats throw a flash mob at the capitol, and you revolutionaries act like it was worse than the holocaust. You are even worse than the billionaires
>>519945020They need jobsBeing stasi is not a real job
>>519945020I don’t think the Democrats have enough control over their chimps to rein them in for that long.
>>519944125>Medicaid fraudok so why is it targeting people with medicaid? medicaid fraud is when health professionals write up bogus things to charge it for
>>519944499Go speak openly about israel in your country, klaus. Name something good and german that isn't Dirk Novitski in the last 30 years.
>>519944759Which Healthcare are they getting exactly? Hospital care? That's about it. And if you're denying basic Hospital care just because someone is illegal then that's just a crime against humanity and immoral.
>>519938847Anyone wanna take bets that this fool is rige with high blood pressure, prediabetes, liver damage, or some other silent killers?
>>519936435Yours, it happen because you touch yourself
>>519944869ok but what about all the citizens that it is fucking over in the process? they didnt just cut out the part that offers reimbursement for non citizen emergencies. Not that you would want to do that since a tourist or something should be able to get a bone set or something while visiting like they can in every other first world country.
>>519944759What you are asking for is ICE in emergency rooms, speak plainly. The center 95% of the american electorate will not tolerate that. Put down the spaetzle.
>>519945142>Go speak openly about israel in your countrygavin wax is still employed by trump>>51994519350 million people need healthcare they are getting it somehow>>519945357why do you want maduro to run death squad in the US? americans won't support that
>>519945515>50 million people need healthcare they are getting it somehowGovernment assistance programs... or are you seriously suggesting 50 million illegals are actually in the US? And they are getting the Healthcare?
>>519945083I've never given one fuck either way about January 6th, faggot. I just know the truth. Brain Thomspon knowingly condemned people to poverty and death by allowing an AI to deny claims that they were rightfully entitled to. It is no stretch to say he killed people for money. People still gasped and clutched their pearls when he was killed. "We're better than this, he had a family!" they cried. They don't want to be seen as or feel radical. They will not join you in manning the guillotine as long as they have a small shed to sleep in and cell service. They need The Great Depression 2: Bigger, Longer, Uncut before they will.
>>519945684>are you seriously suggesting 50 million illegals are actually in the USbiden alone let in 10 million in 4 years so 50 million makes sense
>>519945353Democrats are keeping the government shut down to fund healthcare for illegal immigrants. If you can admit this, we can discuss further. Do you acknowledge that’s what they are doing?>>519945357Americans love ICE deportation squads.
>>519945687why do you think obama should be shot? are you a terrorist?
>>519945515Obvious esl. I'm a leftist that would eat your boss and call it vegan. I'm saying the only way to prevent undocumented immigrant healthcare access is to put ICE in the ER, which nobody would go for. So, your whole premise on the nature of the healthcare debate in this shutdown is ludicrous thought experiment for babies. They don't make huns like they used to I guess.
>>519936435democrats. They have consistently been rejecting every proposal the republicans have made. The bonkers thing is that even when you factor in the politics of it all, they're just that much more crazy for stalling the budget. They simply have no gravitas to demand anything, they blew it all on biden and kameltoe. The only people that welfare recipients, like myself, are going to blame here are the democrats.
>>519945823You are implying that is their true motivation. Reversing the obbb cuts would have that side effect, but that is not the main thing it would do and there is no reason to jump to the conclusion that that is their primary purpose.A lot of people are going to get fucked over by the added layer of bureaucracy they are adding to it.
>>519938755>>519938813Holy cringe
>>519940940No, they don’t retarded Canadian. You apparently have no idea how US legislature voting works. And have no common sense either. If Republicans had the ability to open it up, then this would be a known fact, and they would be getting blamed for not opening it up. Which isn’t the case because Democrat votes are the decisive factor. If you were in Mike Johnson’s shoes, if you could open up the government without compromising on intolerable requests from the Democrats, you would do so immediately, and then paint yourself as the hero.
>>519945904you do not think about systems, if you put downward pressure it changes incentivesthe democrat will have to deal with externalities from their open borders policies if you do that so would red statestexas has an entire shanty town for illegals and build in the open
>>519940573Do you understand. How to form an actual sentence? Instead of dividing it. Among several stops. Fucking. Retard.
>>519943534So then what’s the issue with cutting that small bit of spending? Your attempt at a point is self defeating. This is because you’re stupid
>>519945904>I'm a leftist that would eat your boss and call it veganThis is the gayest sentence I have ever read on 4chan
>>519945904>n-no one would go for thisHe posted between his feminine insults, desperately
>>519946072Yes. That is their true motivation. Democrats hate white people and love brown illegals. Why should I believe anything otherwise?If that wasn’t their true motivation why haven’t they offered “okay can we reverse OBBB cuts with an asterisk saying no illegals can ever get healthcare?”They haven’t offered it because it isn’t acceptable to them, because they love brown people more than anything.
>>519945687I don't need normies to validate me. You are not a radical, either. You aren't even useful.
>>519945762Lol anon.. seriously? You honestly think 10 million people were spilling over into the US a year? The number is made up, I haven't even seen an official number anywhere. And they know where most actual illegals are, they're all being processed, hence why ICE can just seemingly scoop random poeple off the streets. And actual illegals aren't getting full Healthcare, they either steal it or are denied and have to rely on hospitals.
>>519946151There are more seats red than blue. All the Republicans can vote and this retarded bill would get passed. But that's not the case. And yes, Trump can open up the government he has the executive power, but he won't do it. And even if he didn't want to he could continue assistance programs.
>>519947458the liberal anon already said illegals get funds and the other liberal anon said the democrat party refuses to cut it
>>519947159The ways to get that to 0 are>If a hospital treats someone who is unable to pay, laugh at them and let them eat the cost. It'll be their own fault when they shutdown and leave the community without healthcare>Before treating someone in the ER when they could be having a heart attack or something, sit down and do paperwork with them before rendering any treatment. Important to note with this option, none of the cards in your wallet right now count as proof of citizenship.Which of these sounds like a good idea to you? Personally I'll take>Save as many people as you can and if a few of them weren't citizens, at least I can know for sure I didn't make shit harder for my own peopleImportant to know also that the 0.4% includes people here legally, on their path to citizenship, doing everything the right way, possibly here for years already. There's a 5 year waiting period before they become eligible for regular benefits so they fall under this coverage.
>>519947603Why? Dems are playing chicken with American citizens gibs to gamble for gibs to illegals. Republicans have all voted to pass the bill.
>>519947438>I don't need normies to validate meHave fun with your one man revolution. Let me know how that works out for you. I'll be sure to thank you personally when the medical industry is turned on it's head.
>>519947809the lady doth protest so much, I do not know why it is so important to keep it but you are lying about the amount and why you want to keep it
>>519947391>If that wasn’t their true motivation why haven’t they offered “okay can we reverse OBBB cuts with an asterisk saying no illegals can ever get healthcare?”It would be politically harmful for them to do that. Why havent the republicans offered 'ok we will reverse the obbb cuts but replace them with 'illegals cant get healthcare'? Its because they hate poor people and are afraid the democrats would take it.
>>519943884Welfare leeches aren't people, let alone citizens.
>>519948013You’re almost there. So close to understanding.>it would be politically harmful for democrats to do this!Yes, it would, because the Democratic Party is completely based around prioritizing illegals and browns at the expense of citizens and whites.
i hope this shutdown never ends
>>519947696Not all illegals are the same. If someone crosses into the US and they are illegal, they have committed a misdemeanor, and have to be processed, some of them seek asylum or whatever and they can apply for benefits. If they are denied after being processed and sent home, and come back then they have committed a felony and get jack shit but a one way ticket home. >>519947899>Republicans have all voted to pass the bill.One republican voted no. Two democrats voted yes. This is the Republicans doing. They're the ones forcing the democrats to sign the bill and holding people hostage. They want people to suffer.
>>519948509both parties primary goal is power. They have dressed themselves up in certain ways and convinced a portion of the masses those things are important and created fanatics around them. Few within the parties really care that much about any of this. They are all just managing their image and trying to ensure they get votes.democrats cant afford not to pretend since this is the only leg they have to stand on right now.
>>519949042>more dems voted no than republicans>ITS A REPUBLICAN THINGfucking Kek. The party that didnt promise free gibs to illegals is clearly at fault here.
>>519949328It was a 55yes, 45no. So no, it's not a democrat majority that voted no, TWO dems and one independent voted yes. More people got swayed to yes than no, and it was democrats who got swayed. This mental gymnastics is fucking retarded. This is the Republicans doing.
