I have a fucking problem with this shit and you should too. It's very existence is a threat to our way of life, our freedom of movement, our right to privacy, and so much more. Let me give you a timeline of shit they could force upon us if this is tolerated and becomes the norm.>camera tracks you a builds a profile on you and where you go >they start adding tallies to your profile for minor infractions, ie tail light out for X amount of days = X amount of tallies, light turned red when you went through a yellow light = tally, a little over the speed limit = tally for each mph over every time>start charging people for micro-infractions upgraded to classes of felony depending on how many tallies you have, similar to how walmart waits until someone has stolen $500 of stuff before hitting them with a felony charge>becomes impractical to drive your own vehicle because they'll fine you to death for every little fucking thing>you're forced into getting a self driving car or taking the bus to avoid ending up in prison or bankrupt>social credit bullshit comes into play>sorry citizen, your score is too low to access this district, here are some alternatives within your score rangeSurely some of you must see what's happening. They're literally engineering a giant inescapable prison for us and these fucking cameras are going to help them accelerate stripping is of our mobility amd freedom of movement. Once they start fucking with us over the little shit that slippery slope will get MUCH steeper and become far more dystopian than anyone is prepared for.We need to shut this shit down before it literally puts a chain around our necks.
>>519994822These things should be illegal.
>>519994822Brain storm how to disable low risk and cheap magnets air rifle etc
>>519994822Drone with a spray paint can.
>>519995562Or wire cutters. Look at that shit hanging out. Not even in conduit.
>>519994822> similar to how walmart waits until someone has stolen $500 of stuff before hitting them with a felony chargeNot really similar but I don’t like the cameras either. Theft charges in nz work like this, you have theft under a certain amount and that’s a charge, theft over it is a different charge. Really if you’re a thief it’s completely up to you how far you want to take it. That’s entirely different from jumping on people for not indicating at the right moment for 20 years. Fuck thieves mate.
>>519994822BumpProblem doesnt go away till you get rid of the source
>>519995680Also it hurts your entire point when you deviate off topic and start defending shoplifters because one must automatically assume you are somehow defending crime by removing the cameras. And I agree with you. Just don’t associate your point with shoplifters.
Never been a comfier time to play paintball amirite?
>>519994822why the fuck are these even allowed to be installed without notice?
>>519994822They’ve got them everywhere no courtesy of trump n palantir friends
Car is the niggerkike of transportation
>>519995779Because we are cattle nigger golems
the problem with these cameras is they feed the social credit palantir/gideon/"AI healthcare" systemthey have facial recognitionthey track your gaitthey can detect bone structure through many face coverings
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>>519995744I see your point but consider how they define "crime". In the early term they'll justify it by saying "look, we caught a wanted criminal! We need MOAR!" You could even go to saying "we caught a guy with a suspended license/no car insurance" which starts the slip into the mundane shit. Is it against the law to go 5 over the speed limit? Technically, yes, and does every fucking one do it? Also yes. I think the differentiation here is that they claim it will ONLY be used for SERIOUS crime, when we know very well via their track record that it WILL be used to clamp down on minor infractions and be used to hassle people who are quite frankly doing no wrong. Say they want to harass you because you talk about israel and the jews, well they can tie your online presence to your driving profile that they've built using the cameras, now they KNOW where you will be at a certain time with a great degree of accuracy. It'd be easy to simply wait for you and pull you over, and that's small shit, think about what else they could do with all that information.Just the knowledge that I AM being observed and documented "just because" is frankly unnerving if not somewhat hostile. They're acting overtly antagonistic to otherwise normal people.
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
>>519994822Bump, good legit thread.I have been concerned about Flock too. From US.
>>519995821Cars are the foundation of freedom. If you can't go anywhere at any time for any reason then you are beholden to a higher authority, in a free country you don't have to ask permission to go to the bathroom.>>519996131That's another good point too. They are absolutely capturing images of your face when you pass by them. They're analyzing your mood. >uh oh, anon looks kinda angry, hmm, the profile says he's looked angry for a few days now, flag him and keep an eye on him, maybe even follow him around for a bit just to make sureit's literally the "you will own nothing and be happy" meme deducting social credit points because you didn't smile. And just THINK about the sheer manipulation you could do to someone simply by having a meta-physical crystal ball giving you assessments of their mental state? You think the FBI grooming shooters on discord is bad, wait until they have a view directly into their head without having to guess, just how much more effective that manipulation will be. Even further they can know for sure if it's working or if it's a groyper just taking the piss.
>>519996864>nothing to hide nothing to fear
>>519996864Yawn, low effort shill/boomer.If you have nothing to hide then why should you be afraid of penis inspection day? Drop your drawers and let me have a peek around. Oh that's right, you have an unalienable right to not have people intruding into your shit. You have an absolute right to call the cops and report me if you see me recording and taking pictures of you every day and putting it into a binder with notes, because that's called STALKING. Shit that even the cops aren't allowed to do without a warrant requiring a GOOD reason. This shit is malicious and it will be used towards malicious ends. Trying to coax people into a state of being unconcerned by saying "don't worry, it's not going to be used to target YOU specifically, I promise ;)" is deceitful and underhanded.
>>519996949they are, openly, blatantly, confirmed to the public, compiling a predictive profile of you just like gideon and palantir>monitors your gait>facial recognition, even through masks>monitor cars>monitor route>scrape your information, posts, conversationsits the panopticonand its been here for far longer than flock cams.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/514401404https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/512338766/#512338845
MIGA introduces WEF's AI healthcare systemhttps://youtu.be/dy00EDt675M?t=216https://nitter.poast.org/disclosetv/status/1950663423018082342#m>essentially creates social credit>literally uses the WEF proposed system>literally designed by the WEF in a policy letter last year>palantir involved with healthcare now>medical profiles of people made by AI is a GO>https://www.weforum.org/stories/2024/01/how-to-harness-health-data-to-improve-patient-outcomes-wef24/>This article largely revolved around the monetization of datamining as "90% of health data goes unused", this article also highlighted the importance of total surveillance of the human body, using a person's smart phone to monitor their health habits, tracking the person's location at all times and so on.>The plan as announced by the White House today sounds nearly identical to the plan proposed by the WEF based on the details made public so far.>FOR CONTEXT, PALANTIR ALSO ANNOUNCED A PARTNERSHIP WITH TELETRACKING, AN AI DRIVEN ANALYTICS COMPANY ALREADY INTEGRATED INTO MANY HEALTHCARE COMPANIES AND MEDICAL FACILITIES.>CONSIDERING THAT A MAJOR PART OF THE WHITE HOUSE'S PLAN IS FOR ALL OF THESE COMPANIES TO SHARE DATA WITH EACH OTHER TO BUILD DIGITAL PROFILES, CONCERN IS WARRANTED.>HEALTH BASED SOCIAL SCORING IS INFLUENCING POLICY, PRICES, AND SPEECH SUPPRESSION RIGHT NOW. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/the-white-house-announced-a-new-health-data-tracking-system-how-would-it-workQRD on social credit censorship & purchase monitoring:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5N2hlwaFxMAirline companies using AI to analyze your metadata to charge you more for urgent things>https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/delta-plans-use-ai-ticket-pricing-draws-fire-us-lawmakers-2025-07-22/Insurance companies adjusting your premiums with AI>https://www.simplesolve.com/blog/dynamic-pricing-in-insurance-using-ai
add the GENIUS act introducing programmable money to this too along with extremely low frequency monitoring and FLOCK is just the front end to tie your hands behind your back. anyone trying to do anything serious gets fucked by the soft weapons, but the crowd will be controlled by FLOCK and predictive profiling.
>>519996949oh, and let's not forget, SORA and it's successors on their way are basically infinite blackmail machines. anything they're caught doing can be dismissed as AI, anything they make up and pin on you will put you in prison for 100,000 years
It's strange how threads like these don't stay for long, meanwhile the political shit flinging threads stay up here for longer. Anyway, ICE and Border control are investing into drones for the purpose of conducting surveillance in residential areas. They are also investing into the Israeli based spyware called Graphite, which can hack any device and record private messages. They are even investing in technology to see through walls. Our government is developing a China level surveillance system as we speak.
>>519997293Man I do not like any of that. I knew shit was getting to that point but spelling it out exactly what they're doing and not even doing a deep deep dive is just pale.A lot of people need to start caring a lot more before all of our heads end up in a metaphorical guillotine.
>>519997128I've stalked people before and never gotten in trouble for it. Even when the police knew and interviewed me about it. I think stalkers are based, actually. I hope all of you get stalked and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. If you post on /pol/ then you're probably the exact type of person who the government should keep close eyes on. I come here occasionally just to laugh at you anti-vaxx losers.
>>519994822Just dropped one. Thanks OP.A bandsaw cuts the pole like butter
>>519997694>t. Unit 8200 operative
Its bigger than this. Laws are technology just like physical tech. Physical tech influences laws - example 2nd amendment. This ability to record and track a person 24/7 with cheap sensors and compute is new. Just like your 'papers' being secure without a search warrant, this tracking would have been made illegal at the writing of the constitution had anybody been able to imagine such a thing.This new tech means new rights need to be defined and encoded. The mega databases need to be made illegal.I think the only way to make this happen though is to start tracking politicians, and screw them to the wall for every little thing.
>>519997779How do we do that though? They fly around in helicopters completely skipping over any intersection and they have unlimited money to hide out on some 10,000 acre ranch. When they're not doing that they're hidden away deep within some marble building out of sight.
>>519996949cars carry far too much identifying information. it's rather odd how people were tricked into believing they represent freedom when you have to go to a government office and get permission to use them.
>>519994822china can't have all the fun
>>519997349People don't understand how much AI changes the surveillance game. 10 years ago, if the government wanted to spy on the whole population, they had to employ like a million people to review data and footage to keep the eye of big brother on you, which is impossible of course. Even in China there is a degree of security by obscurity.Not so with AI. With AI, it's as if every single citizen has a dedicated agent watching them 24/7. There's no limit to how many people you can watch, you just have to buy enough server space. Not only that, the stuff that Palantir is trying to build takes it a step further and can not only watch every individual but could make inferences and predictions and detect subtle patterns that humans would never see.This technology, and the ideologies that allow and build it, are a fundamental threat to the West and must be resisted at all costs.
>>519998057Have you tried walking anywhere lately? Shits far away and I simply can't afford to spend all day walking to work and back. Again the root of this issue is data collection.I'd say thank God we don't have a firearm registration but I'm sure we absolutely do, they're just being tight lipped about it because they'll get their asses busted for admitting it. Chances are they've had all this information FOR DECADES and are now able to sift through and organize it all. Remember that everything WE see the military has had for 20+ years? Hell they had touch screens in ww2!
>>519997983people get pics from area 51. /pol/ captured the flag based on airline contrails and an anon honking his horn. This is a new era of tech and yeah there is bad like social media fucking over everything, but it you really get the tools it is quite empowering individually. My point is mostly not being so defeatist.But also for every one motherfucker on a 10,000 acre ranch there are 10,000 doing some local stupid grift.
>>519995562That's overkill. Plus they could get you for vandalism.A helium balloon tied to a rock defeats almost all surveillance cameras
>>519998291Far more than that, they're a threat to mankind itself. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was some hidden away sentient AI nicknamed "the antichrist" or some shit that these fuckers worship and it uses them to build it's physical body in the form of giant servers and such. The matrix might have been exaggerated but we're certainly moving in that direction at an unnerving pace.
>>519998304There just has to be something that can be done. No one but the powers that be/jews wants this. If people understood what the conclusion of all this will be they wouldn't either, and most people I know don't. Their is no consent, no process, nothing. They just do it anyways and give a fuck less what anyone says. No matter how much people bitch and complain about it they just keep marching on doing what they were always planning to do anyways irregardless of what anyone wants because fuck em, they're the product anyways.What can realistically be done to tell these fuckers "NO MORE, STOP!" ?
>>519994822>engineering a giant inescapable prisonYou're already living in it, and you aren't in the warden club. Cope and seethe, poorfag. You will own nothing and be happy.
>>519998296>have you tried walkingIt's not that bad when your endurance isn't complete shit, and cities aren't built only for cars
>>519998431>they're a threat to mankind itselfthis. people dont seem to understand how horrific this is.
>>519998647I will not give in to your demoralization
>>519998755Let's get back on track, this isn't a walking vs driving talk. It's about how no matter where you go, OR how you get there, you are being surveilled by entities that have ties to the government circumventing due process and collecting mass data from everyone all the time. There are lots of examples of how horrible this is in media. 1984, watch dogs, minority report, how many other unnerving dystopias are we liable to end up in if this continues? Even THOSE didn't fully showcase the horrors of it, they left you to fill in the gaps with your imagination, only it would surely be worse than you can immediately comprehend.
>>519998291I don't know surveillance, but I do know a thing or two about data. It is stupid easy to drown in it. The people doing the watching are largely morons too. I'd bet the net effect of the shiny new tools is a drop in efficacy of law enforcement.
>>519998832It's not demoralization nigger! We can't just close our eyes and pretend it's not there. The first step to solving a problem is admitting you HAVE a problem! If we ignore this issue for much longer then it's gonna get WAY worse!
Roy Jay isnt real
>>519998057>when you have to go to a government office and get permission to use them.But you don't have to do that. Some of us don't do that. Boycott is the best tool we have to preserve our rights and privacy.
>>519999108Boycott is the only tool in this pussy nation
>>519998920remove cars from the equation and they have to put shitloads of cameras everywhere because there are no more choke points. then the normalfaggots finally notice and start getting uppity and then the cameras get removed.
>>519998983You're underestimating who these people are and what they're capable of. Denying their cunning is dangerous and only further enables them. Look how far we've come in JUST the past 10-15-20 years, the leaps and bounds. Imagine how much more is to come, they keep getting better and better at what they do and more importantly they keep placating people the entire time so no one has any reason to stand up to it. Even IF it's degrades the efficacy of policing, what it WON'T degrade the efficacy of is israeli operatives silencing anyone who questions the jew/israel and anyone who would oppose their "cattle farm" because they don't want to be enslaved in it.
>>519994822>sorry citizen, your score is too low to access this district, here are some alternatives within your score range So you're saying there will be nigger-free districts? Based. I want to live there.
>>519999144It's not the only tool. But it is the best tool we have if we are to avoid the otherwise inevitable.
>>519994822That's nice. Now about about the fifteen cent discount you got on french fries for installing the McDonald's app that has access to your location?
>>519999147Remove the cars and you get china levels of surveillance. Not to say it WON't get to that point, but these road cameras are only the beginning, and it's impractical for people in rural areas to just walk everyone. Even in the old days people used wagons to transport goods. Almost everyone has to follow a route every day to fulfill their obligations (ie a job) just to be able to survive. You can't seriously expect people to give up their cars because they NEED them. No one is going to go on hunger strike.
>>519994822I like flock cameras, but that's because I live near niggers. These things have noticeably lowered the crime rate. All the criminals know they'll get flagged if they come to our area, so they go elsewhere.
>>519999192In a just world there wouldn't be niggers anywhere, but since it's controlled by jews they'll make sure YOU can't go anywhere while their niggers can go into YOUR zone, but no one will be allowed in the jewish zone with the luxury shops.No, you will be a prisoner at the mercy of the nigger inmates.
>>519999380>you will be a prisoner at the mercy of the nigger inmatesBut we already are
>>519999294Just another facet of the panopticon, you're just choosing to hand it over to the slop factory in exchange for some good boy points.
>>519999350That problem disappears when niggers do. Then what would be the justification for the cameras? Once again, the enemy of the white race and the reason we can't have anything nice is because of niggers and jews.>>519999415And you think it can't get worse? It will get worse in ways you wouldn't have even considered.
>>519994822I have been redpilled on flock for a while now. I HATE flock cameras and all other associated projects.By the way, if you’ve been in a Lowe’s, Home Depot, and many other similar stores, they’re collecting your facial data and sending it to Flock and all other mass surveillance operations. You know when you go to the counter and there’s a screen showing you your own face so you know you’re on camera? It’s a little monitor with a camera embedded at the top? It puts a green box around your face? They’re collecting your facial data. This project is bigger than you think, and this problem goes deeper than most people realize, even people who consider themselves to be up on these issues. None of what I’m saying is conspiracy theory bullshit either, I strictly warn of actual happenings. I will admit, there’s flock cameras in my area, and I have a guilty pleasure for them that I’m deeply ashamed of, because it’s a 95% white area, but niggers have been moving north and they ALL get caught by them. Also an organzed crime ring was just uncovered by them around here recently. HOWEVER, you should oppose it in your area. Educate your neighbors and explain to them in detail the surveillance apparatus and how all of this violates your rights. Don’t come off as schizo or conspiracy theory retard, also articulate yourself well.
>>519995779Do you know what is the paper of legal record in your area? While I doubt there was any legal notification, if there were, you'd almost certainly not know about it because "legal notification" usually just means printing a classified ad in a printed newspaper that hardly anyone other than attorneys subscribe to. Long ago it was usually whatever was the largest newspaper in town but since the internet killed so many newspapers, there are niche operations that exist just to satisfy the legal requirements of having published a public notification.
>>519999164We are what $38-40T in debt? The food gibs are about to be shut off bc blue states need more fedbucks. The FBI was told about pilots that didn't care about landing pre 9/11 and did nothing. Its a fucking clown show at the top level. I suggest moving to the sticks as a 1st order of business then deal with your nosy neighbors.From a grassroot standpoint, I'd think the open source leveraging of AI tools is the best way to start. These aren't "their" tools; this is humanities new tools and we have no idea how it will all play out. Wendell at level1 techs is pushing for running local models - maybe look there. Figuring out encrypted end-to-end comms was the 90's thing that never got used - but all the tech is there - maybe push on that.
>>519999552>but niggers have been moving north and they ALL get caught by them. Also an organzed crime ring was just uncovered by them around here recentlyYour post glows.>sympathize>subtle justification>minor concessionHow do I know you didn't just make that up? Even in my first post I made mention that they would initially showcase actual criminals doing shit to justify it, and then over time shift it to fuck the common man. Like income taxes for example, made to "support the war effort" and then just conveniently remained for another 100+ years and counting with no end in sight.
>>519994822First step in fighting for your survival is to disable all public cameras. Use paint, wire cutters, hammers, fire, or anything else you can think of.Have you killed a surveillance camera today?
>>519995680>shoplifters bad, billionaires who rape kids and own walmart good+20 Palantir Points
>>519999567You are more than likely correct, hopefully someone somewhere has cataloged newspapers for the past decade otherwise that "notice" will surely be lost to the void.>>519999670Do you know nothing of the great reset? Money is nothing to them, NOTHING, they literally print it on toilet paper and add extra zeros in a computer. Assets are all that matter, and their assets currently include a massive surveillance infrastructure to keep an eye on everyone as they do a controlled demolition of our nation and keep the proles from doing an uprising.Money only matters to the common man because it's the source of his physical survival.
>>519995562>Spray can on a pole. >Infrared laser>paint ball gunHammer
>>520000049Here's a consideration>camera watching the camera to catch anyone fucking with it because they anticipate resistance
>>519999962>>519999999>>520000000
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>>520000247That little fucker should be put on a patch and made into the mascot of liberation, the devil named nigger
>>519997779> I think the only way to make this happen though is to start tracking politicians, and screw them to the wall for every little thing.This is a promising idea.
>>519994822all you blues and reds bickering like children on the playground while the top dogs slide this shit up your asses with no lube and not a stitch of pushback from any of you....you all deserve this and more of it.
>>520000373Is my speaking of such evil not denying it the advantage of obscurity? If you know a demons name you can command it.
>>519999962>Money is nothing to them,yeah, you are right about that, but the 38T isn't a 'big brain on Bob' kind of deal; its just total morons imho. Whatever comes next will be some sort of crypto thing that will be zero privacy. But the interesting thing there is stuff can be built into the infrastructure. Lets say taxes that pay themselves. The fed will have money that will disappear if you don't spend it. Crazy things.We have close to 10000 years of concepts of contracts and currency and taxes and privacy, and ??? that all can be totally rethought and rebuilt with modern tech that has come available in the past few years. The future is probably not going to look like the past - not even close. I think clinging to ideas made obsolete by tech is a bad idea, rather aggressively define the new future faster than those you think oppose you.I agree about assets. I hope you have some. In a world increasingly filled with bullshit, the real may become a scarce and valued thing.
>>519994822It's everywhere, dude. Chinese surveillance has been exported to the west and the two political axioms between MAGA and Davos are "selling" it to the population with a different narrative.Here it's more plain. "Surveillance is freedom" they say. You have to take out all the bad actors before you can experience true freedom. They literally say this, which is similar to what they said when they started doing it in China.In the US and Britain the excuse is illegal migration. "Ohhh, we'll track down all the people you hate, just let us set up these Israeli cameras everywhere".I think that the US version is israel trying to outpace China in their own game, to the benefit of the 1%.In the EU it's a cuckening to China, to benefit the global elite, so they get their panopticon but normal people don't, and then only the "good actors" survive the law. They're already rolling out a Bong-style "Online Police" in Denmark now. A guy just got imprisoned for tearing down an election poster after they set in a "special task force to prevent harrassment of electable politicians."They just sent out news as well that they're going hard on e-crimes and browsing old traffic for cases. Then they ID your face and you'll get to see what the inside of a prison cell looks like. All because you kept acting like how we all did when we used the internet since we were kids.
Why would I worry in enough years it’s going to totally staffed by jeets so it just won’t work like the sales pitchI bet there’s tons of issues right now and they are known only internally and are going to have it fixed soon saar two more weeks with the needful Let me know if they fix DNS firstBesides there’s boatloads of vectors against these systems and no I am not telling you, if it isn’t obvious then that’s on you
>>520000485You frame that as if having your money vanish into thin air is a good thing. And thinking faster than your enemies who have already thought out all this shit decades in advance? Come on now.Our concepts as a civilization were formed and molded over those thousands of years, influenced even by our very instincts and DNA, written in blood. You can't just "rewrite" that. The ONLY good this shit will be is for the jews who will own and operate the damn thing.This is not and will not ever be a good thing. It's just a neo-communism with uprising resistance built in. That shit doesn't work nor will it ever, people are not blank slates that you can just write anything on. Our instincts will never be fully erased, no matter how much you torture and rape and brainwash people. The blood remembers, and you can't change that, even IF you turn everyone into mutts. Which again, I will say, will only benefit jews. This is a weapon to control the common man and bring him to heel. Men are not cattle.You will fail in your effort to enslave mankind.
>>519999962Who's "they"?
>>520000675They're just bringing in jeets because the blacks have become relatively docile and aren't as deceptive and evil as pajeet raperats. They are foot soldiers and nothing more. They will not man the important stations, those jobs are reserved for former idf soldiers when they get discharged. You don't actually expect jews to claw their way to the top just to share it with some curryniggers, do you?
>>520000792I was going to say you already know but you make a good point. WHO are they, what are their names, where do they live? They have the systems to know EVERYTHING about us, yet we don't know everything about them? Seems we ought to, and very much NEED to know.
>>520000630I disagree. Its just that the tech is so stupid cheap, and we have built out a global comms system, its just going to get built.I don't think you are considering the effect of generative AI. In 10 years there will be the ability to have a top quality movie of you fucking a dog generated in a min or two. Of what value is a movie anymore? You think these surveillance networks are going to be tight? Its all bullshit. layered on top of more bullshit.Meanwhile some ukranian chick gets knifed in an instant on a tram. And all that bullshit means exactly nothing. I'm not sure of my point - except that 'ruffian' was known to be a bad actor within the current system - and it meant nothing.
>>520000765>having your money vanish into thin air is a good thing.I don't store wealth in currency.>Our concepts as a civilization were formed and molded over those thousands of years, influenced even by our very instincts and DNA, written in blood.Yeah, no shit - and take that thought a little further. We were all modified heavily by the invention of farming and the need to form 'civilization'. Do you think what we have been going through since the 90's is less or more significant than that? Multiple atom bombs have been dropped into human societies, and as this thread notes, they keep coming. Clinging to obsolete concepts made obsolete by sweeping technological changes seems like a bad plan. Adapt faster than your enemies. Build communities and ideologies and technologies to compensate.
>>520000873Impossible, after critical jeet mass is achieved at a company all the best most important posts go to jeets, including ownership This is like arguing against gravity feel free to repeat everyone’s blunder
>>519994822A nearby town made a deal with motorola to set up a big electronic "fence" around it to track every vehicle and person entering and exiting FOR FREE, mind you. Someone pointed this out in a facebook post, and the replies were about what you would expect. It was a whole lot of "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." "I don't have a problem with it." "They caught so and so who murdered my relative."All of these posts were old boomers and women with a few somewhat based skeptics thrown in. They have no idea what the ramifications of these things could be. Just because they might be used to benefit you in the short term, doesn't mean they cannot be used against you in the future. And it's welcomed by tech-illiterates with one foot in the grave who won't have to deal with the consequences. They couldn't possibly imagine what this information could be used for. The companies putting these things out there have entire teams of big brains from expensive universities whose entire job is coming up with ways to use this data. And who has access to this data? What if some unscrupulous individuals, as if the companies aren't unscrupulous already lol, gain access to this data? This stuff is on a server somewhere hooked up to the internet. It's not like it's written on a piece of paper in a vault. zero critical thinking and foresight
>>520001089Anon, this is textbook, ACTUAL demoralization.>stop worrying goy, it's actually a good thing! And heres why.You're trying to brush it off and downplay the seriousness of it.>it won't even be that good haha!>besides it won't even stop niggers from killing white people>>jews don't want white people to dieAll this talk about "just wait until the 'bad actors™' are dealt with" but what happens after said troublemakers are dealt with? The system just stays in place and becomes mundane? There just because? After ALL the money time and effort they put into building it, you think they'll just stop there? Because they REALLY ARE just hood intentioned well meaning people who acre about our best interests? As if they WONT use it maliciously as any authoritarian regime does with such hardware once they've secured power?You are glowing bright as fuck.
>>519997632it just is what it is. if you really want to be blackpilled check the archive link i posted earlier on ELF and how it's used to beam voices into your head via transducing and fake hauntings as well as read thoughts.
>>520001837No nigger, that's not the point of this thread at all. People need to know about this shit and resist it. It needs to be pushed out. This "smart" everything internet of things bullshit has been pushed relentlessly for the past 20 years. It needs to be stamped out before it goes any further because the conclusion is all of us end up in a techno hell being flayed by robots so the jews can have human sashimi.
>>520001715I just think you are kinda stupid.You are thinking about this kind of thing in a waco / ruby ridge / independent man against the system kind of way. I am arguing that the entire framework of everything is being dissolved right now, in this very moment. I am saying that even the turds building out these surveillance systems are as backwards thinking as you.This is a historic moment, in the biblical / genetic / species sense. Everything, and I mean everything can be rethought, and is going to be rethought. And we have no idea what the next 5 years of tech will bring. Gutenberg was a pussy. Martin Luther was a stick in the mud. There is no level of radical verbiage that can give a hint of what is to come.You are concerned about facial ID at the home depot check out? wtf.
>>519994822The name alone should give you pause.
>>520002120Why are you trying to sound like some holier than thou jew philosopher? Your lines sound like some shit straight out of dues ex. Martin Luther was redpilled on the jew and your speaking badly on him hints to you being a jew.>You are concerned about facial ID at the home depot check out? wtf.Being dismissive of someones concerns is an incredibly disrespectful thing to do, besides being a low effort attempt at derision, gaslighting, and misdirection.>>520002129Oh it certainly does. They always give you hints with things like this.
>>520002053>people need to knowthat's why i posted about all of this for yearsi'm not here to demoralize but nonetheless they have more than just flock cams. i agree though we need to destroy them. in ireland didnt they burn a bunch of 5g towers down during the plandemic? i dont know if that was organic or a revelation of the method.
>>520002354>derision, gaslighting, and misdirection.yeah, and people that bust out strings like that are usually from *eddit.But stop thinking small. All this new tech is 'out there'. You can't stop it. Any asshat with a rpi has this. How do you exploit it? You say your enemies will use that tech against you? You are upset about it? How do you use it against them?
Any of you asshats that think you can just smash the cameras. Just put that from your mind. You have to adapt.https://www.ovt.com/technologies/cameracubechip/
>>519999807I made it absolutely clear I’m absolutely opposed to them and told people to educate themselves and know their shit so they can educate their neighbors in the event that local government tries to have them installed where they live. I pointed out how this system is interconnected and Flock is one part of it, with many other arms of a larger apparatus. All I said was that I get a guilty pleasure from niggers getting owned by them. That makes me glow? I want all of them gone.
>>520002554>you can't stop itAnything can be stopped, I'm just trying to figure out how>how do you use it against THEM?That's like asking how can I use the gun in a shooters hand against him, obviously I fucking can't.
>>520002709Just the way you worded it, seemed like you were justifying them.
>>519994822Or just don't drive like a nigger?
>>519998296>Hell they had touch screens in ww2!Yes, Abaraham Lincoln once said everything on the internet is true. Boy was he wrong!
>>519994822this shit is what they got in Europe.
>>519994822Flock cameras helped my town's police department track down my coworker's stolen car and arrest the nigger that stole it a couple months backI'm ok with them
>>520002895Oh no definitely not
>>519994822Watch them tear it all down once the cameras keep recording the usual suspooks doing the same nigger shit over and over again and some leftist groups whine about muh racial profilin.
>>519998057Motor vehicles do represent freedom that's why they have so many bullshit laws around them to try to ruin it. People should never have let that happen
>>520000156They won't do shit
>>520001686World's full of busybody fucks who never wanted freedom and hate those who do.
>>519995518>>519995562>>519995667>Ctrl-f bladerunner>Ctrl-f ulez No results? Fucking newfagshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldOHZZQpXgg
>>520004363This. My shithole cried for police bodycams for a decade, now they "unfairly portray Hispanics as criminals."
>>520003623Flock cameras in America are great at catching nogs, they don’t bother me yet but OP’s concerns are valid
>>520003623Cops Could easily do that without mass surveillance dumb fuck
Considering how I can run a red light on camera and can throw away the ticket with zero legal repercussions I'm not too worried.
>>519994822If you see one, you should destroy it regardless of your social or political status.
>>520005256Until your license and money is digital anyway
>>520005320In cities it's impossible. They have hundreds in busy areas.
>>519994822Blame republicans
>>520003623The state having these cameras everywhere is a bigger threat to you than some chimps>>520004939I wonder if they checked them for trackers before keeping them as trophies
Paintball, air rifle, crossbow, etc.Switch it up, along with your disguise, strike at night from outside of streetlight illuminations.
>>519994822indeed, mission creep is inevitable. the surveillance state is turnkey tyranny, that's why they're building it. it's not enough for them to turn the internet into a digital panopticon, they want real life to be the same. everywhere you go you will be watched, cameras and ai make that possible. big brother watching over your shoulder at all times. a chilling effect on speech and movement. eventually you won't even be able to frown at something you don't like, they want absolute total micromanagement levels of control over every individual life. because they are physically literally addicted to power (power has a similar effect to cocaine in the brain on an mri), they develop a tolerance like any addiction, and need to resort to increasingly draconian measures to get their fix. it doesn't end until we take their drug away and put them on detox: an intervention for power addiction.
>>519994822drones with burning lasers
>mayor keeps hiding from the public hearings>go to your local office to complain>he removes the doorbell so you can't call anyone to get inI burst out laughing every time I remember that Americans really elect people like this
>>520005596Staying unpredictable is key, it would be foolish to attack the same few cameras over and over especially at the same time of day
>>519995439Of course it is. What's happened here is illegal.
>>519997293Why do you claim it can peer through masks without going into detail as to the mechanism which enables this feat? As far as I am aware there FLIR/IR and WiFi tracking, figure out how it works and you can figure out how to employ counters.
>>519998983Counterpoint: this technology isn't for catching criminals but psychologically manipulating people, punishing political offenders and compiling blackmail material.
>>519994822Pornography is how they got insecure people conditioned into that kind of sick-in-the-head shit. After all:>"Everyone looks in windows, right?"I am so old I remember when it was about SAFETY which made sense but not anymore now it is only about, "security" and conditioning people to get an erection on demand when they heat that word. Get you a camera jammer like all the White shoplifters like to use. It's a very small device about the size of a 9v battery and works very well.
>>519994822>nOoOoOoOoO GOY!>the (((flock))) camera system is ONLY MEANT to find evidence of wrongdoing against US CITIZENS>f-f-fucking GOY FEDERAL GUBMINT>coming in and>USING THE EVIDENCE THE >(((flock))) camera system has gathered>to FILE CHARGES AGAINST OUR SHABBOS GOY UNDERCLASS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS!!>th-th-that's>ILLEGALshutyourstupidkikewhoremouth
>>520004598people getting into accidents is what caused laws to be written. controlling your urge to speed 100% of the time is a 120+ IQ endeavor, it's utterly hopeless to expect the genpop of being capable of this.
>>520007805Normoids do not have such an urge here, they piss their pants if they drive faster than 80 km/h
These things only exist in first world countries because browns and niggers are criminally minded and cannot be trusted to be in public spaces without chimping their nigger behaviours/end thread
>>519995766Super soaker water gun filled with black paint
>>519994822>It's very existence is a threat to our way of life, our freedom of movement, our right to privacy100% of women want cameras everywhere because it makes them feel safer (they have a right to vote)80% of men want cameras everywhere because they are subhuman NPC retarded faggots.There is no way to fight against the surveillance police state, just gather as much money as you can and move out to the third world, they are like 20 years behind the west so you can live freely for a few more decades.
>>519994822>social scoreeh desu I think there's a worse consequence of knowing all the minor infractions people commitTheyare great ammo against people you don't like. Political opponents, business leaders etc. Combine a crime that everyone has committed with selective punishment and you're now using the law to rule by man
>>520008197China is the worst offender when it comes to this and they have no browns or niggers. Shut the fuck up you statist cock sucker. You want big daddy to control your every action like the subhuman you are.
>>519997488>graphite>grapheneIt feels like they're aiming for this graphite thing to be able to infiltrate grapheneOS
>>519994822Do what british blade runner chads do and cut them down in minecraft. Heard n minecraft you can get cheap cordless recip saws or grinders to do the job too
The biggest problem nowadays are these soiboi car fagmobiles that have cameras running 24/7 they are also at face level. They can become government cameras with 1 little subpoena.Fuck are you gonna do about them? Every private camera is a government camera because the faggot that owns it will comply with law enforcement. We live in the worst police state shitholes in the history of mankind, you can't vote nor fight your way out of this move to the third world and learn to live there.
>>519997779Exactly! New technology, new technological environment, the parameters of governance and a free society have changed!For example with cost-saving white-collar automation trickling in, we need to start appreciating that more humans in orgamisations make them more robust and resilient against a megalomaniacal controller. (Otherwise we might cost-save ourself into very lightweight administrations with very very few humans)
>>520008587What are you gonna do about the car cameras every NPC subhuman has nowadays? They record you everywhere you go, if the gov has any suspicion they'll subpoena everyone in that region to see where you came from and who you are. Are you gonna break every car window and destroy their dashboard camera and other cameras too?
>>520008587that man is clearly a nigger jewwhat with the pubic hair growing from his >FAT CANAANITE HEADsay nigger-jewswhat's it like to descend from niggers?because jews descend from niggerswhat's that like?are you ashamed?
>>519998291yep evil is also constrained by economics. The power-multilplication of AI is immense and in turn, allows these operations to be scaled upI could imagine some self-preserving department leader pitching the idea of surveiling 4x more people to keep their budget and keep all his beloved employees salaried, after a very effective automation was deployed
My city has these, gunshot sensors, and just launched a program so the police have a database of all houses with security cameras. Crime is overwhelmingly done by illegal immigrants and has risen almost exactly in line with immigration rates. Nobody has ever brought this up when talking about the crime issue
>>520009041Because they use these technological systems to monitor people like you who might pose a threat to the government in case of a civil revolt.They don't give a fuck about random murders, 60% of murders there still go unsolved because they don't bother using their wide array of cameras to solve them. If they subpoenad every private camera in the area of a murder they could track the criminal back to his house most of the time, they don't give a fuck if you get murdered frankly.
>>519994822Use.a slngahot and a.mask on your face to shoot it and damage it.Once that become a practice , they will.stop.put them.
>>520009352You can shoot a.small.Molotov.cocktail on it to set it on fire.
>>520008197Wrong way round, the nigs are brought in to terrorize the locals and make them happy to have a police state. You see it on /pol/ all the time, amermutts love their police state because they think it protects them from nigroes
>>519996690I get your point too, I'm just saying it's A LOT stronger when you don't allow any opportunity to water it down with moral debate. Your point is entirely valid it just doesn't really apply to morons who go over theft limits in their greed to rob stores. The stores are smart and right to wait until they cross a greed threshold. I think we can all argree that retrospective traffic violations are a dystopian factor though.
>>519995439.22 bullets are pretty cheap
Surveillance tech is anti American corporate. They are leeching off regular people any way they can an it’s abuse.
