SNAP rules are so retarded. I know it's state by state, but in most state's I've lived in, prepared foods are explicitly forbidden meaning:>You can get a box of uncrustables PB&J, but you can't get a PB&J from the deli>You can get raw seafood from the fishmonger, but if you ask him to steam it (a free service), it's suddenly not eligible anymore>you can't get the rotisserie chickensBut somehow, soda, candy, snack cakes, etc. are all fine? Imo we should let people get anything they want (minus alcohol) with SNAP, but if we're gonna have limits I'd rather Taneesha and Cleetus be able to get a quick hot meal than junk food.What's with the prepared food ban anyway? Is it to stop fraud from stores selling their own food products? Not like the shadow economy of people trading food stamps in the hood/trailer park is hurt by this.
>>520086708Same thing with health card benefits. I can straight up buy candy or air freshener with my health card benefits, but not protein bars, lip balm or dumbbells.
It would be much more efficient to just give people cash.But that would probably result in a loss of administrative jobs.
>>520086708I think it’s to prevent people from going to restaurants with the idea being that a dollar will go farther if you buy the ingredients at the grocery store and prepare the meals yourself. Plus, it would politically look bad if taxpayers were paying people to go to restaurants. I agree with you, though that anything in a grocery store should be fair game, including prepared foods, especially, as you point out, you can buy Twinkies and Ho Hos but not a rotisserie chicken. How does that make any nutritional sense?
>>520087235I agree. The means testing is psycho and such a drain on our resources. VA disability cash benefits are a way bigger drain on our budget too. Some middle aged fuck with "back pain" would haunt my LGS at all hours because he was getting 75k a year in gibs from the government and had a condo in my college town.
>>520087235A big part of the reason these restrictions exist in the first place is to keep people from using them to buy booze.
>>520086708We shouldn't have snap in general. problem solved.
>>520087323veterans are absolute scum
>>520087307>I think it’s to prevent people from going to restaurants with the idea being that a dollar will go farther if you buy the ingredients at the grocery store and prepare the meals yourself. Plus, it would politically look bad if taxpayers were paying people to go to restaurants. IMy local McDonald's, Taco Bell, and Burger King all take EBT, kek.
>>520086708You are a pasty nigger
>>520087392Funniest part is that there's 0 work restrictions so a lot of them open up "small businesses" basically risk free to take out all the crazy vet loans with ridiculously low interest rates and STILL get fucking gibs. I read recently that the employment rate from vet disability benefit recipients is HIGHER than the population at large. Meanwhile if your legs get amputated after a car crash, you have to fight tooth and nail to get the most meager public assistance, and if you try to actually work and contribute to society despite all that suffering, they take it away.
>>520087328Yeah but as OP pointed out it doesn't really stop them.
>>520087235No, it would ensure people could survive, which would make them something other than miserable. The almighty boomer line go up video game has deemed this an unacceptable outcome. So they'll never do it except at gunpoint.
>>520087406You in Cali? I think their state program has some sort of loophole to allow this, mainly so homeless people can get a bite to eat without cooking. Wish soup kitchens and FNB style charitable orgs were big enough to not necessitate that.>>520087328>>520087494Even more fucked up, there was a case study in a small mississippi delta town where two economists found that one guy owned almost all the property and was "washing" SNAP at 50 cents on the dollar to his tenants through his convenience store. Guy's basically living as a petty tyrant on the government dime while all these people are trapped in borderline debt peonage.
>>520086708nigger
>>520087480>Someone fights on his country orders>Somehow it's bad that the country rewards himOk.
>>520086708Truthfully, it was never about supplementary nutrition. Once you realize the Coca-Cola company makes extreme profits off of assistance recipients, all of the pieces fall into place. And those pieces take the shape of The Star of David.
>>520087618>fightsI'm sorry polcuck but that's not what most military guys do in burgerland. They work desk jockey jobs in camo outfits and then claim that they got debilitating hemorrhoids and need gibs.
>>520087494If you're talking about food stamp trading, there's two responses:>at least it's not directly government sanctioned.If you make something illegal, you will have less of it because there's fewer criminals than normies. >food stamps aren't traded 1:1So it's less booze for the same number of stamps spent.
>>520087569>state program has some sort of loophole to allow this, mainly soMainly so the fastfood chains get extra profits subsidized by the country. It's a result of lobbying. Nothing more.
>>520087592>ShlomoHey rabbi, why's it alright for the gov to give your banks billions upon billions to bail them out, countless other handouts to the real parasite class of bankers etc. Yet a coupla bux to keep people from starving and you are a "nigger" (while much ebt goes to poor white MIGA voters)
>>520087693Obviously it's advantageous to these companies, but that's the stated reason, ESLman.
>>520087667>at least it's not directly government sanctionedYeah neither is the drug trade, not officially, but that doesn't mean squat in practical terms.>food stamps aren't traded 1:1Yeah it's more inefficient but that doesn't help and OP addressed that too: >>520087569
>>520087779>Yeah neither is the drug trade, not officially, but that doesn't mean squat in practical terms.See:>>520087667>If you make something illegal, you will have less of it because there's fewer criminals than normies.Simple as.Even during the prohibition era, which everyone loves to decry as a failure, alcohol consumption dropped dramatically.
>>520087700>Hey rabbiDo i look jewish to you?
>>520087927Alcohol consumption isn't what made prohibition so horrific.
>>520086708wow its almost as if welfare is a mechanism to steal money from the middle class and transfer it to the upper class corporate businesses or something and its intentionally set up in such a way to squeeze our small businesses owned by the middle class from profiting from it.its like poor brown people are some kind of bio weapon.
>>520086708snap shouldnt exist.
>>520086708>use taxes to pay farmers to grow slop ingredients nobody wanted.>use taxes to give snap so they can buy slop food made with slop nobody wanted.big slop circle for the cattle
>>520086708Because its designed to slowly kill off the poor while generated the most profit in medical, goyslop, and tax expense to justify taking more of our wage.
>>520088038Correct. But also not remotely relevant to the point.Don't allow people to use gibs to buy booze legally and you have fewer people using gibs to buy booze at all.
>>520086708The rotisserie chickens are usually sold at a loss to bring people to the back of the store. I suspect it's the same with most cooked foods in the supermarket. I wouldn't be surprised if supermarkets don't want EBT bucks spent on unprofitable things because the amount they are going to get is fixed anyways.
>>520086708It's not even impossible to ring up prepared foods. Back when I was poor there was a local deli and the manager/owner would ring up prepared food and the ebt would pay for it. They're just not supposed to.
>>520088141Don't gib gibs at all if you don't trust the people receiving them. It doesn't help them to exercise the control that a slavemaster might.
>>520088222Also this, a lot of the cooked foods were CHEAPER and MORE NUTRITIOUS than the frozen or unprepared stuff. >>520087638Walmart is operating at a loss without EBT.
>>520088377This goes to a deeper issue, which is that without people having money via benefits or credit lines (loans, cards, pay in 4, etc.), the economy would collapse.
>>520088377>Walmart is operating at a loss without EBT.Absolutely insane. Richest (publicly disclosed) family on Earth, btw.
>>520088300If you are receiving gibs from the government, the government should have the power to decide what you can spend it on.We can argue over the minutiae of what those restrictions should be. But "criminals exist" is never a valid reason to oppose a restriction.
>>52008843140% of coca-cola sales is to welfare peeps.why it's 15 bucks a case. they KNOW the govt will pay the bill
>>520088522No, that's a retarded slippery slope. If they want alcohol they're gonna buy alcohol regardless of whether or not a rule says they can/can't.
SNAP should be split into food benefits and elective benefitsFood benefits can buy produce and staple foods (dry rice, bread, pasta, beans, canned goods)Elective benefits can buy the shit regular food stamp kweens buy (cheetos, diet coke, candy for they keeds, frozen chicken wangz)Elective benefits would be less than ten percent of total benefits provided, so a kween getting fifteen hundred in benefits (common for single mothers with two boys, just fucking IMAGINE what you could do with fifteen hundred free dollars in groceries every fucking month) would get like a hundred to spend on filth. Hell, make it less than five percent. Give them thirty dollars of corn syrup a month and watch America heal in weeks.
>>520086708>you can't get a PB&J from the deli
>>520088377>>520088431Dont forget that walmart relies on EBT for their employees as well so they can pay them nothing letting the gov pick up the rest to keep their slaves alive.
>>520086708i think the prepared food ban was to prevent the purchase of junk food, i assume it has been around since pre-corn syrup.
>>520088856I get you wanna have a weird power fantasy. I get that. Less than 5% of EBT benefits for the majority of people would be $5. The average person isn't getting the numbers you think they are. Go into chatGPT and plug in the numbers for yourself and see what chatGPT says - all the formulas are public.
>>520088929yeah? deli counters at grocery stores tend to have premade sandwiches.
>>520089004yah, meat and cheese or breakfast burritos, I worked in a deli for 4 years and we never made PB&Js
>>520087392you forgot about the part of sacrificing part of your life to even get them, it's not like they fall out of the air or you would get them too. 95% of the population couldn't even pass the prt to get into the military, you included fatty.
>>520089068It's different place to place. Some have pimiento cheese and egg salad too and some don't.
>>520088932Yeah that's pretty well known at this point.
>>520088743I made no slippery slope fallacy and I have no idea why you think I did.But I must repeat: if something is made illegal, there WILL be less of it. Every time.
>>520089187I said "that's a slippery slope," not "that's a slippery slope fallacy." Slippery slopes are real.>There will be less of itLol. How'd that work for prohibition, which increased crime, alcohol consumption, and a whole host of other industries around it? How'd that work for weed? The law is a piece of paper, you can ignore it if you want.
>>520089187i like you
>>520087653Wait, you can get gibs for roids?
>>520089328Brother, you know a majority of what you can buy on EBT is junkfood, right? EBT is designed around slop.
>>520089237>How'd that work for prohibitionAlcohol consumption plummeted during prohibition. I mentioned that all the way back here: >>520087927Feel free to look it up yourself.Now a lot of other results of prohibition were a disaster. But it did accomplish its stated goal.
>>520087480When you join the military you sign a contract and you risk dying, you don’t do that in civilian lifeYou could do it to but you’re a pussy and are complaining.
>>520089476>PlummetedIt most certainly did not, lmao. Grandmothers were making bathtub gin, literal billionaire fortunes were made from bootleggers. That's not "plummeting" dude.>It did accomplish its stated goalTroll or glownigger, call it.
>>520089418it's a reacharound for the farmers. corn, söy, and wheat.pure slop.
>>520087927https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/alcohol-prohibition-was-failure#>Although consumption of alcohol fell at the beginning of Prohibition, it subsequently increased.>It subsequently INCREASEDLol
>>520089525Literally Google it, you ding dong.Just because shit documentaries like to glorify moonshiners doesn't mean they were anything but a minority of a minority.
>>520089606I did >>520089577
>>520086708The sugary shit makes people fat retards. Fat retards end up in the hospital due to shit health. Shit health means more money for pharmafaggotry.It’s a loop. The Jewish loop.
>>520089577>>520089627That "subsequent increase" was still less than pre-prohibition levels.By the end of prohibition, it was about 70% of pre-prohibition levels:https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/6/5/18518005/prohibition-alcohol-public-health-crime-benefits
>>520087638I weaned myself off of soda completely.
>>520089736A. Vox, lolB. If you understand how statistics of things like this are calculated, then you understand how wildly inaccurate those estimates are (we only know people that got caught or the most obvious cases)C. "Reefer madness" started because of prohibition because people switched to other drugs in addition to alcoholD. Prohibition only made the problems worse>You're just wrong, dude
if SNAP didn't exist, people would have to work to afford to buy drugs
>>520087355>We shouldn't have snap in general. problem solved.This. You know how they say "don't feed the bears"? Well, the taxpayers have been feeding niggers since FDR's New Deal. The result is we now have many millions more niggers than there was back then, and they are morbidly obese violent.
>>520087569>>520087693As a temporary EBT enjoyer, the rule is you need to be "unhoused" or so frail/retarded that you can't make your own meals. They them authorize the account for prepped food. And yes, fast food companies want this.Btw, groceries created a loophole where they sell refrigerated full meals which are basically cold fast food. I use EBT for the same groceries I got before and it's amazing if you're between jobs. But most people I see are buying overpriced snacks and sodas.
>>520089377You get 10% or 20% for them. If you combine them with shit like hay fever, migraines, etc., you can hit 100%. Even if you only get 20%, that's $350 wired straight to your account every month no tax. If you manage to bundle it with migraines to hit 50%, you get $1,100 a month.https://veteransguide.org/conditions/hemorrhoids/
>>520089505>you don't do that in civilian lifeIf you commute via highway to work you're at higher risk of dying than the average person in the military. The only people who believe this dumb hagiography about "service" are people with no personal connection to the military. Nobody who served or has family/friends in the service actually drinks this kool aid, besides a small minority that everyone treats like snowflakes.
>>520088429This is like my theory of two economies. The busywork economy which keeps the appearance of a functioning monetary system, and the real economy where elites buy and sell actual resources and land.
>>520089817A. You cited the fucking CATO instituteB. Alcohol related illness dropped as well. And the fact that you were willing to evoke these stats earlier but reject them the moment they don't agree with your position shows you're a disingenuous fuck.C. Weed consumption also dropped when it was banned.D. I agree there are problems caused by prohibition. That was not the point.>>You're just wrong, dude
>>520086708>GIBS>ME>DAT>4>FREE
>>520089505Nobody's gonna ever respect you zog bot. There hasn't been a just war in our lifetimes, and everyone that joined for one of these wars was a violence hungry fag. They went from thinking they were above everyone to thinking everyone owes them thanks for killing some brown children on the other side of the world or setting up a spy grid to use on the average American citizen. Far as I'm concerned, you're all just violent commies
>>520090191Such a funny video, I can hear it even from the webm.
>>520090185>You cited CATOAnd?>Illness dropped as wellDude doctors were literally prescribing people alcohol to cure things. No shit it "dropped," those illnesses got swept aside to another things.>You were willing to evoke one thing but ignore anotherYeah I don't care what papers, statistics, studies, or authorities say unless it confirms what I know to be true.>Weed consumption droppedlol>That was not the pointThat's not what I said. You said prohibition worked - it didn't. The goal of prohibition was tied into temperance; people were not even moderately temperate, they either skirted the law, hid their consumption, or switched to other things.
>>520086708>What's with the prepared food ban anywayBig food lobbyists don't like when you buy a premade P&J sandwich over a loaf of theor bread and their jars of P&J
>>520090273>Yeah I don't care what papers, statistics, studies, or authorities say unless it confirms what I know to be true.And there we have it. GG. You lost.
>>520090330If you have to declare yourself the winner, it means you've probably lost. Uno reverse nigga.
>>520090330>>520090351and then they fucked.
>>520090305The only prepared crap you can buy is frozen or cold.
>>520086708You can tell all the fast food places that have "WE TAKE EBT" signs and banners had those for years and were just waiting for it. When the fed stopped caring.
>>520090396Nah, this is just the dinner date. We haven't even started the foreplay yet.>>520090351You literally said you will rejectvany evidence that doesn't conform to your preexisting conclusion. Sounds like loser talk to me.
>>520090440Corporations run this country through lobbyists. That's why youll never a ban on using SNAP for junk food. They won't allow it. Especially since the types of people on SNAP are more likely to eat junk food.
>>520087355Employers that pay too low need to pay more into SNAPIf the median pay is above median, they don't pay that extra tax.
>>520088932We do not live in a free market. Fuck Walmart Fuck AmazonFuck Niggers
>>520090482I will reject any evidence that's gay and retarded, because I'm not a gay retard.
>>520090766>because I'm not a gay retardExcept you are.
Nothing about America makes sense anon.
>>520086708You shouldn't even be able to get a box of uncrustables.What kind of lazy bugger can't even make a sandwich?
>>520090804You're a kike on a memeflag. Opinion discarded.
>>520090816Think about what you just asked then think about the types of people on SNAP
>>520090878Another gay retard. Probably trans too
>>520089418>CORNelius
>>520090901Nah I'm on owo. Show flag kike.
>>520090089What do you get for a prolapsed anus?
>>520087235>It would be much more efficient to just give people cash.No it wouldnt, poors would spend the cash on beer and lottery scratchers, then cry about being hungry and demand more money.what we should do is issue out humanitarian daily rations, aka MREs for civilians.
>>520091162Why do you have this saved, faggot?
>>520091649To make fun of the Nigger And Tranny Organization
>>520089505>>520089079Quiet zogbot! Freemen are talking.
