The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good.rather say "i do not know if there is a god but i hope so, and i will live as if there is one because without him my life would have no value, meaning nor purpose"saying "there is no god" is the most irrational option from the options given you, youre not only claiming certainty, youre slamming the door shut for him, and also sinning while doing it
Shut up faggot
>>520178270I may be a retard but I really love God. He helps me so much even though I am a lazy retard. He's a really nice guy. Sometimes when I pray I can feel my guardian angel hug me.
>>520178270I'll believe in your god when you prove the existence of them. No, your book doesn't prove anything.
>>520178270>there HAS to be magic man in the sky for there to be purpose No, fuck off
This is youYou people are the reddit atheists we used to mock
>>520178795You can literally do that. It's possible. You just have to let go of yourself. Atheists have no argument other than fear and God isn't even scary. The church has lied about so much.
>>520178795existence itself testifies, prove to me there is no god? "it just is because it couldnt be any other way" how convinient? science always bases what it teaches on "what is the most likely option?" yet when it comes to creation and existence itself which screams design and order, they dont stick to that same principle? why is that do you think? the proof is out there if you have eyes to see, its not about the book, the book is the explanation of what you can witness with your own eyes
>>520178994alright faggots, which part of your schizo fanfiction actually matches reality? the talking snake? the magic fruit? the sky wizard throwing a tantrum and drowning the entire planet like a deranged toddler? or maybe it's the part where a jewish zombie walks on water, comes back from the dead, and wants you to eat his flesh and drink his blood like some back-alley cannibal cult? go on, point to one part that lines up with the world outside your larping head.so go ahead, pick a verse. any verse. which one fits reality? the talking bush? the sun stopping in the sky? pigs filled with demons diving off a cliff? or the invisible man watching you jerk off and calling it sin? yeah, didn’t think so. you live in a mental prison and you’re too far gone to even realize the door’s been open the whole time.
>>520178898bible doesnt reject evolution, evolution could have been a natural process guided by god
>>520179100Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideology:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_RevolutionChristianity has always been a racist religion:>"Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race chosen and beloved [...]">"the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God [...]"- https://www2.cbn.com/article/church/pope-urban-iis-speech-calling-first-crusadeThe racist and anti-semitic Confederates have always been Christian.The National Socialists used the Celtic cross and gave out iron cross medals for bravery. The white term for "swastika" is hakenkreuz, meaning hooked cross.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HakenkreuzbannerHere's a growing list of Christian political commentators who are racist and anti-semitic:- https://rentry.org/Deus_VultFeel free to reply to this post with others.Educate boomers irl. If you don't preach to them, the anti-Christian kikes will:- https://news.antiwar.com/2025/10/06/israel-to-spend-up-to-4-1-million-in-propaganda-campaign-targeting-american-christians/israeli nationalism ("zionism") is a heresy:- https://youtu.be/GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s- https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-AThe "holocaust" (burnt offering) is a lie made up by kikes, both soviet and freemason:- https://rumble.com/c/ScriptureandTraditionFrJM/videosBoycott israeli products:- https://bdsmovement.netCommon glownigger talking points:>"jesus is a kike"The word "kike" comes from "kikel", which means circle. The kikes hate the cross so much, they would sign documents with a circle, hence the nickname.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign>"off topic"Reminder the pope is the monarch of a country. In fact in many white nations there is no separation between church and state.
>>520178928That's not proof, and I can easily say the same about any of the other thousands of gods that have been worshiped. By your own argument, all those gods exist too, correct? If not, then you have no argument.>>520178994>prove to me there is no god?It's never on someone to prove the negative. Do you believe in a flying spaghetti monster? How about any of the other thousands of gods? If not, prove to me they don't exist.
>>520179123missed the fucking point of the meme
>>520178270Also I know there is a god. She has a temple where she lives. Unlike your fake imaginary god, "uh you can't see him because he's lives up in the sky, or actually he's INVISIBLE", you could go visit the Kumari Ghar and see her or visit during festival time and see her in her chariot. And also she's not a Jew which is a huge plusFuck, I wish we could have loli goddesses here, it isn't fair all we get is Jewish bullshit instead of temples with lolis to worship
>>520179139you believe in gravity even though you cannot prove it? you believe there are things billions of lightyears away without seeing it? science is as much of a religion as any other religion
>>520178994>prove to me there is no god?How about first you prove you're not a rapist. If you can't prove you haven't raped then you must definitely be a rapist.Does this example explain to you why asking for proof of a negative instead of providing proof for your assertion is retarded?>>520179133Wow, this bot again
>>520179276Non-sequitur. When you are asked a question, you answer the question or concede. Choice is yours.
>>520179276>you believe in gravity even though you cannot prove it?You prove it every day>>520179276>science is as much of a religion as any other religionYou are a moron. Science asks and needs to be proven wrong to go through change. Change that leads to new discovery and data.You can't do that with religion
>>520178270say GOD IS REAL AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR EXCEPT GOD and be free christian man
>>520179351youre purposefully shutting your eyes to the evidence around you because it makes you afraid, this is why your guilt remains
>>520178270I like finnbros but the christcuck ones are just really, really retarded.
>>520179431>youre purposefully shutting your eyes to the evidence around youNo dummy, it's not convincing. But you're welcome to believe whatever you want
>>520179139God can't be proven the way you wish. It can only be experienced. It comes from within not from the sky or volcano or whatever. Just follow the hero journey or Christ pattern.
>>520179396youd think as we have come this far in human history there would be proof already this ancient book was a lie?
>>520179431Okay, like what?And where is your Shift key? Where are you retards coming from who don't fucking capitalize? Where is this acceptable behavior? Stop it
>>520178270>i do not know if there is a god but i hope so, and i will live as if there is one because without him my life would have no value, meaning nor purposeImagine that only way you see a purpose in life is to convice yourself there is a god.Theistards are really earths biggest cucks.
>>520179478He refuses to answer questions because he knows he's wrong and would expose his flawed logic. Typical cult behavior, honestly.>>520179525You still haven't answered my question. I'll give you one more chance to answer it.>>520179507You didn't answer my question. Try again and this time answer it.
>>520179525>this ancient book was a lieThe bible has some truths about history. That doesn't mean the supernatural claims are real or anything beyond poetry and metaohor/allegory
>>520179603You're 100% right. /pol/ Christians are a terrible bunch
>>520179276> you believe in gravity even though you cannot prove it?Kek. Fucking christcucks and their 70 IQ points. Go get a job
>>520179685if something about that statement was wrong, tell me what is it thats wrong? as far as i know gravity remains a theory
>>520179755>as far as i know gravity remains a theory>>520179685>Kek. Fucking christcucks and their 70 IQ points. Go get a job
>>520178270>iChild
>>520178270Jesus raped God
>>520179603Idk what you're asking. God is all things. Pagan gods are expressions of it too. It's a pattern that is expressed through us unconsciously in myth. It's all around once you know how to read the matrix. And what is the matrix but symbols on a screen?MGS1: You step into the hidden world.VR Missions: You spar with the labyrinth.MGS2: You fall into the chaos.MGS3: You face the ghost of origin.MGS4: You awaken to the system’s truth.MGS5: You integrate shadow and self.
>>520178270>because without him my life would have no value, meaning nor purposewhy the fuck not? your life sounds really sad and cringe
>>520179811>>520179811>It's all around once you know how to read the matrixYou can't take these people seriously
>>520179811You didn't answer my question. I accept your concession and admittance that I'm right, and you're wrong.
>>520179873Reality is a symbolic interface. It's no one's fault but your own you can't open yourself to possibility. So you'll never know god so idk why you typed even bother other than you're angry about something and that something isn't God it's about yourself. This is literally always the case.
>>520179608>The bible has some truths about historyBarely. It is really late when it gets semi-historical and even the semi-historical parts are mostly made up and, more importantly, are the parts nobody gives a shit about. Even getting into the NT the Gospels are pretty nonsense as far as history. The Massacre of the Innocents never happened, there was no tradition of randomly releasing prisoners during festival time >>520179755>as far as i know gravity remains a theoryOh, it's another case of "layman doesn't know what a scientific theory is". Okay
>>520179929your argument in this context is retarded because you have to understand these texts were written over 2000 years ago, these people didnt have the knowledge we have yet you cant still after 2000 years prove "oh yeah this is blatantly wrong", you dont see an issue with that? do you understand probabilities and how they work? do you grasp how unlikely it is?
>>520180040Already accepted your concession, and yet you still refuse to answer my question. Absolutely hilarious. Either answer my question or get filtered. Your choice.
>>520178270I want to believe in god but I feel nothing. I read the old testament and I'm now halfway through the new testament. Maybe I don't have a soul
>>520178270We live in the time where there's little hope for the wicked. It was predicted.
>>520180040The Bible is like software, Revelation is the final run of the program, the moment it executes fully and reveals the “hidden mechanics” behind everything. All the earlier books are the libraries, modules, and functions: Genesis lays down the base code, the laws and constants; the prophets are like debug logs, highlighting the errors and potential exploits in the system; the Gospels are the main API, showing the interface between the human “user” and the divine “engine.” Then Revelation hits like the compiled exe that opens the console: all the variables, loops, and hidden processes suddenly become observable, and the user is forced to interact with the full logic of the program. The beast is a subroutine you can choose to engage or ignore, and the mark is the flag you set to accept that subroutine into your own memory space. Reject it, and you maintain your sandboxed autonomy. From that perspective, calling it the last book makes perfect sense, it’s the program running its final symbolic instruction set, showing the full consequences of every choice encoded in the earlier books.Software always needs an update
>>520178270If god is real then why did he make you a mongoloid with smol dik instead of nordic bwc like your neighbors.
>>520179932>It's no one's fault but your own you can't open yourself to possibilityPossibility to what exactly?>So you'll never know godYou mean your personal feelings and what you think God is
>>520180189their eyes are shut because they hate the truth and what it implies, as soon and responsibility/accountability is introduced they hide and begin to lie to themselves
>>520180268God is the eye inside your mind. Maybe a picture will help.
>>520180432You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
>>520180409>because they hate the truthYou mean we lack belief in your personal feelings and there's nothing you can do but try and gaslight
>>520180498I can just kill you. Always work. Always will be.
Which god is the Bible talking about? If it's the kike-supremacist one who's into dick mutilation and burning animal meat, his opinions are fucking irrelevant
>>520180630The almighty One.
>>520180459Perception isn’t passive reception. It’s an active medium, a kind of inner mutagen. The “world” we know is already perception tinged. You never touch the raw thing; you touch your perception of it.In mythic terms: perception = the first light poured onto chaos.In psyche terms: perception = the bridge where inner and outer worlds meet.You're entitled to your own perception.
>>520178795Eat magic mushrooms with the intent to find and speak to God, you will find him if you do so. Have an open mind and heart. Always be honest with yourself and what you see.
>>520180741That doesn't prove anything. Try again.
Atheists are the reason things are the way they are. Muh religion is just an opinion. Fuck off, Christ is king.
>>520180723You are the tuning fork. Start with feeling first, explanation second. When something gives you that tingle, that "this means something" sensation, follow that thread before your logical mind starts explaining it away. Your body knows before your brain does. Practice symbolic translation. Take any random event and ask: "If this were happening in a dream, what would it mean?" Your dog limps, maybe you're being asked to slow down. You keep seeing red cars, maybe passion or anger needs attention. Look for the pattern that repeats. The universe is obsessed with certain themes for each person. Once you spot your personal mythology, everything becomes a chapter in that same eternal story. Your nervous system is already the instrument. You just need to trust what it's picking up.
>>520179123Creation by YHWH has already stopped. Evolution is an ongoing process. It's not compatible
>>520179174„People” from third world shitholes like yours have no right to an opinion.
>>520180723>You're entitled to your own perception.I see no reason to buy into yours
>>520180859Jebany debil nie rozumie że wszystko zostało wprawione w ruch przez Boga na samym początku stworzenia naszego wszechświata. Wszystko jest precyzyjnie dopracowane.
>>520179507>God is a feeling, bruv
>>520180569I'm not scared of a limp wristed Gook ladyboy
>>520180952Yes. The nervous system is the harpsichord your ghost plays to guide you home. You just have to pick up the phone.
Part 1 of Arecus PokemonArecus make Pokemon trainer 1 and 2. Pokemon trainer 1 and 2 have freewill yet get tricked to gain freewill aka knowledge? If they don’t have freewill how did they make the input command to have freewill? Also we live in a world where special Ed trainers exist. Giratina is pure evil but who allowed him to trick Pokemon trainers 1 and 2? Does evil not come from Arecus like the tree?. This is two paradoxes
>>520181024Be grateful. I don't bully the weak.
>>520181113>I don't bullyCorrect. No one fears a gnat like you
Part 2 of Arecus PokemonArecus sent Arecus to save me from Arecus and things Arecus made because Arecus wanted to show much they love us depsite love much like hate being discriminatory and Pokemon trainers 1 and 2 still go to hell potentially in a world where some religions like the filthy team rocket doesn’t a hell. Why doesn’t team rocket have a hell if they’re the bad guys? Yet Arecus despite claiming he has nothing to with it made everything no?
>>520181214That's cool. A good predator should make the cattle feel safe.
listen friends, it is not merely random chance that as we are about to reach 2000 years since the resurrection, everything in the world is culminating, those who have eyes let them see and those who have ears let them hear, the creation testifies his truth as well as his word does, love you all
>>520181284>That's coolBeing a Gook ladyboy like you isn't
>>520181419I'm the perfect creation of God. Go take it with God for making me so great.
>>520181275The concept of hell, the way Christians portray it, doesn't make any sense. If there is a hell, it wouldn't be a bad place, just a heaven for those that did what satan/devil/whatever wanted them to do. It makes no logical sense for Satan to punish you for doing exactly what he wanted you to do. It logically tracks that he would celebrate you instead. Christians needed to portray hell as a bad place to deter people from going against their teachings.
>>520181457Anyway, ignoring you now
>>520181396You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
>>520181500Hell is easy. All you need is Pain.
>>520178270No, say>I don’t know, but I sure hope so, and I sure as shit know it’s not one of the desert tyrant ones threatening torture or giving virgins telling me not to jerk off with 1000s of cherry picked scriptures contradicting themselves in a never ending feud for social control and powerIt’s about love. Go with love. All the other window dressing religious horse shit is a social fallacy 2000 year old psyop.
>>520181396It’s been 2025 years almost 2026 and second if we all die why the fuck would you wait for a rapture to fix your life? Also if Jesus the son himself said “I do not know the day or time only the father” do you know more than God? I could use the same argument. Isn’t it coincidence how none of things that predetermine rapture has happened yet despite red deer schizos and you now trying to bypass God?
>>520181284Lmfao just stop you are embarrassing yourself. What part of your religion tells you to protect your ego over others? You lack wisdom.
>>520181515There is no Truth greater than Might, and there is no being more powerful than GOD.
This evil isn’t new but yet you’re always shocked anon
>>520178270>1People who want to remain ignorant are going to remain ignorant, and will probably do so until they die. They're not capable of reason. Don't bother.>2There is purpose without God, it's just a selfish, worthless purpose, like, "I like the way it feels when I get drunk. That's the purpose of life." Equally meaningless would be something intrinsically charitable like, "I like the way it feels when I look at the stars." It always winds up with personal feeling and no greater meaning.>3Atheists on 4chan are perhaps the least read, least educated people on planet Earth right now. Nevermind willful ignorance; there's a significant chance they can't even understand logic and will just name call and dismiss out of fear.
>>520181664Praise be to the Lord. Glory be to the supreme One.
I love Pokemon. Thank you for making the world God
>>520181767The Catholic Church is better than everyone by the sole fact that they banned penis mutilation. Everyone else is just retarded.
>>520178928>just believe harder.Yea no. I just don't believe. Nothing, zip zero, nada. nietzsche was right, and you will eternally seeth at the people who have transcended beyond such frivolous nonsense.
>>520178270There's nothing pointing towards there being a god. I really fucking wish there was. Not only for eternal life but also life itself having meaning and all of that. So no, I won't dedicate a lot of my actual life on something with such low credibility. Like I have sympathy for you guys who can believe it and I don't want to take that away or those who play along for community reasons but come on. One glance at history and the world and you see how it's just some imperial bullshit and most religions are just society building before we had nationalism.
>>520181396does that mean we're gonna get evidence of one (1) real-life miracle? because that's all that would take to get me to believe in God as an atheist, lol
>>520181959>A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.
>>520181959youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVIyoutube.com/watch?v=yS78mFJcvhQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dva0G0ZcIK4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX71ieaiszchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hgm9xA99ig&list=PLFIc5Y7xpsJKBfRg4GAu-BfNAHju4ENIo&index=58https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hgm9xA99ig&list=PLFIc5Y7xpsJKBfRg4GAu-BfNAHju4ENIo&index=58https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-pw4mD_9ZA&list=PLFIc5Y7xpsJK6d_ZvdTNI4zgT6q46TQeI&index=5Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” youtube.com/watch?v=EAtR40sue5M
>>520178270>saying "there is no god" is the most irrational option from the options given youYou cannot force yourself to believe in god you complete retard. If you say there is god but you don't actually believe it's the same thing.Why can't Christards understand this?
The Catholic Church is better than everyone
>>520180741>Bible says don't do drugs>God only speaks to you if you drug yourselftopmeme
>>520182406These aren't miracles my man
>>520182491Correct. You are not better than a nigger.
>christcucksthey've been an issue on the board ever since orange man sent rednecks and /r/theDonald boomers to invade>>520181707matt dildohunter would eat you for breakfast;you've had thousands of years to provide irrefutable evidence of your everpresent special guy, where is it?
>You are not better than a nigger.Kiss my feet then :^)
>>520182728Why should I? You are not Almighty.
>Why should I?Kiss my feet Gook boy
>>520182849You are disgusting, and gay
Gooky Gook boy kiss my feeeet!
>>520182974Go play with your mutilated dick.
The Gooker Gook boy has a face so flat it can bite a wall!
>>520181959If this actually had anything to do with evidence you would've realized that demanding evidence is just a priori rejection of it. Cain directly interacted with God, didn't trust him, killed his brother anyway. Hundreds of priests interacted with Jesus, didn't trust him, had him crucified anyway despite the glaring amount of miracles.Faith has nothing to do with works, and as a result the gospel is literally only asking you to believe it to be saved. It isn't advocating for religion, its blanket condemning it while heavily implying that because of what Satan did to Eve in the garden, that you've been thrusted into existence in the middle of a rebellion, and that because you have the knowledge of good and evil, you're in the middle of a false dichotomy, religion is a unironic gatekeeping mechanism of Satan. Everything except passive faith that the gospel is true as it also applies to you, is literally a failure to do the one simple thing God is asking you to do.This world will tacitly gaslight you the entire time about needing to save this blatant shithole as things deliberately become worse, because Satan's winding man up to think that the current way the world is being ran is about to turn into the beast system, when in reality Satan is about to swap modes and pretend to be good, while rescuing you from this clusterfuck due to the NWO cults that are blatantly enshitifying everything you like down to your fucking cartoon fandoms, for nothing more than a spiritual riling up. The book refers to this as the wine of Babylon. The more pissed off you get at the world, the easier it will be to fall for Satan's deception with the antichrist, who out of no where, will come onto the world stage and unironically destroy the very tards 4chan has been saying have been running things, while sporting all sorts of fucking bells and whistle to convince you he's God. Believing the gospel at face value, is supposed to protect you from this.
>>520182499lel>>520182410surprisingly, many (most) people, when asked, will assert that they "choose" what they believe intherefore, many (most) people are fucking low IQ niggerscum (not much better than actual niggers)
>>520183127>demanding evidence is just a priori rejection of it.This is a cope becaue you know you don't have anything beyond anecdotes and personal feelings >>520183127>This world will tacitly gaslight youLike yoi do to those who don't buy into your nonsense
>>520181707I'll repeat myself, I'll believe in your god when there is proof of them. There has never been proof of a god.
That verse is about hypocrites. People who claim they believe in God, but in action, they sin gleefully, effectively saying in their hearts "there is no God, I can do what I want". Atheists are retarded ofc
>>520183248>That verse is about hypocrites. People who claim they believe in God, but in action, they sin gleefully, effectively saying in their hearts "there is no God, I can do what I want"Sounds like the majority of /pol/ Christians
>>520183127>the gospel is literally only asking you to believe it to be savedsee, I only had to wait 4 seconds and some burgerbrain retard posted a blog where he asserts that beliefs are something that are under one's control - that is to say beliefs can be chosenthese people are genuinely adjacent to nigger IQ/intellect--->A SHOW OF HANDS WHO HERE THINKS THAT THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER WHAT THEY BELIEVE?
>>520183127The post this is replying to and this post itself are an exact replica of that mental gymnastics meme. You guys are seriously a joke.
>>520183208Your opinion of evidence is irrelevant of the fact that you're insinuating that you know what evidence of God would look like, no one asked to engage with a retard who is deliberately stonewalling while hiding like a bitch behind skepticism for their pseudo sound arguments. You're not a fucking robot, the truth wouldn't force you to believe, et al the fact that you believe differently from anyone in this thread is enough proof of the matter. I went through college and every single philosophy professor i met in year 3 blatant exhibited the same irrational fucktard behavior your lot do, a single no life prep fag in the back of the room asked my main course professor a simple question about double negatives while using his viewpoint as an example and he flipped his shit, and stopped classes for the day.I do not have time for people like you. Hitchens spent his entire life GRIFTING just like Dawkins over how merely taking middle ground and casting doubt on everything your opponent says without actually claiming quite literally anything is not a position and never will be. Atheism is a epistemologically unsound position, why the fuck would you assume the existence of evidence that contradicts your worldview if you've already made certain of a position by rejecting the idea outright without even dipping into science or even appealing to rationalism? Its simple. Its a fucking pseud tool that debate niggers use to stonewall their opponent when they don't have anything of substance to actually repudiate their opponents points. never reply to me again nigger.
>>520181591>pic relateit seems your emotions and superfluous/tenuous ideals (which you have no control over) are your guideit's fine, just be aware >>520183600heh, looks like this guy is mega butthurtdid you legit get diddled or something bro
>>520178270Marcus Eli Ravage 'Commissary to the gentiles'there may be more to life than we know but its not some fairytale religion or religions and that is fact. >OP has been struck down with a severe case of cognitive dissonance.
>>520183600>Your opinion of evidence is irrelevantJust like your opinion about God
>>520178270No parralel lines as to expect with a sun 6 gorillion miles away. Thus sun is local, thus space is fake, thus athiest starwar cuckboi’s are seething.Thank you for your attention to this matter
>>520183923Christ is King>I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.>A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.You heathens will not deny the glory of god, and Christ the saviour, you must repent, or you will be punished severely.
>>520178270GODDOESN'TCARE.Why are there homeless?Why are there starving?Why are animals executed near birth?GODDOESN'TCARE.Neither about you nor anyone else.THINK about it. Why do "people" who both believe in a single God (e.g. mudslimes and Christians) go to war against one another?BECAUSE GOD EITHER DOESN'T CARE OR WANTS TO DESTROY THEM.
>>520184102You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
>>520184157And you're welcome to my sword cleaving you in twain heathen.
>>520178270>“There is no God.”What god?>What god?
>>520184146God doesn't care but Jesus loves you.
I should have been dead 40 times from drugs. I sat in a perfectly safe house as the mountain around me became a river during Helene. I have a beautiful family and a happy life.I see the hand of God at work around me at all times. You are a slave who still wears his unlocked chains, years after your master has left town. Shrug them off
>>520178270>i do not know if there is a godThis logical fallacy is called rationalization. Gods are fictitious supernatural beings that cannot be "known" or "not known". They can only be believed in or not believed in.
>>520184078>space is fakebelieve it or not (i didn't at first), but a not-so-insignificant portion of chrsitcuck burgerbrains literally believe that the earth is flat, and that spake is fake and gay, lmao>why am i forced to share a planet with you niggers
>>520184174>my sword cleaving youJesus never called you to violence. The opposite. Try reading through Matthew again duder
>>520178270God is a belief made to inspire people who have nothing or noone to help them mentally out, used by rich people to influence and push ideologies onto the masses
>>520178270>"there is no god"The definition of Anti-theism
>>520184353ok satan
>>520183802>picCan't be more true than that
>>520184414It's still a lack of belief which falls under the umbrella of atheism
>>520184295sounds like god's penis is being shoved in and out of your frontal lobe, bug guy, cos only half of what you just said isn't gibberish
>>520184270That is more along the lines of my understanding of the situation.
>>520178928>Atheists have no argumentNo argument is necessary to [not believe in gods]
>>520184146Because of sin. If there were no problems then that would mean everything is ok and we don't need to worry about anything, but because of our sin we need salvation and God wants everyone to realize they need to turn away from trusting corruptible things and understand that they need salvation.youtube.com/watch?v=EAtR40sue5MJohn 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
>>520178270There is no god, there is only science
>>520178270>The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good.I do not believe in God (but I do not deny there is one). I still think it is becoming for one to live a moral, righteous, and viceless life because the alternative is worse, both for yourself and the people living with you and after you.If there is an afterlife and my attempts to do so are judged insufficient, then so be it.
>>520184520So there is no necessity in engaging with atheism because its not even a rationalist position, let alone scientific. Good-Day.
>>520178581That's because you did drugs and now your brain is fucked. Look up whatifalthis crashout to see what happened to you
>>520184539When did sin start?
>>520184368Perhaps he didn't call you, but me he did. God is righteous and just. I will purge the heathens. They are enemies of god and enemies of me, they are enemies of children and so they are enemies of me, they are enemies of truth and they're enemies of me. They cannot be allowed to live, it's why god has poured iniquity upon us, you mingle with the sinner and take his sin upon you
>>520179123That's not what bible says
>>520179276>science is as much of a religion as any other religionOne day when you're a lot smarter you'll be ashamed of saying retarded things like this.
if god is all knowing does that mean he knows what it feels like to take a dick in the ass ?
>>520184642>I will purge the heathensNo you won't. Vengeance isn't for you but for God.
>>520178270Yeah no, you describe more theists than atheists with that first line.
>>520178270>there is no god>there is no what exactly?>gives a concrete description he believes exists somewhere in this reality>chooses to discard its existenceatheist logic 101
>>520178270thats why theres only like 5 atheists on the entire planetbecause npcs think anyone who disagrees with them who isnt jewish must necessarily be an atheist because what other possibility exists?just from the statement "there is no god" you can tell that that person is on the jewish reservation. what they would be saying if they were not on jewish reservation is "there are no gods". but theyre operating entirely within a jewish framework. it could just be tailored to the person theyre speaking to, but i think it suggests moreso, atleast if theyre being serious, that they are someone of an abrahamic background whose disaffected with its teachings.
>have a bad day>curse god if he exists for making me suffer for no reason>do better next day through sheer willI recomend this to everyone
>>520184797>>there is no what exactly?Right. "God" is just man's subjective interpretation
>>520184740you'll make the christnegresses chimp out, dude.
>>520184764Then join me, and do god's will, and we can perhaps save our island, or suffer the iniquity you sow.
>>520178270HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die there will nothingness for eternity.
>>520185060TRVKE
>>520183127>demanding evidence is just a priori rejection of it.If that were true, the world would be filled with nonsense and nothing would work.Evidence for what we know can be held to standards. ((( Evidence ))) for what you believe can literally be any damn thing you're dumb enough to fall for.
>>520184539>Because of sinNot true.You think it's sinful for a man to milk a cow?For a man to have a dog on a leash?Should the roles therefore be reversed at some later date? A dog with a man on a leash? The spirit of the dog in the body of a man with the spirit of a man in the body of a dog, on a leash?It's nonsense and a facetious way of saying "God DOES care, but you (or someone else) SINNED!"
>>520185060Disagree, you simply cease to exist when you die. Nothingness implies that you can still comprehend shit.
>>520184556>I do not believe in God (but I do not deny there is one). I still think it is becoming for one to live a moral, righteous, and viceless life because the alternative is worse, both for yourself and the people living with you and after you. >If there is an afterlife and my attempts to do so are judged insufficient, then so be it.Careful, mate, You might have just broken the thread IQ limit (80).Go be smarter/better than the average burgerbrain somewhere else.>>520184642that gay little poem thing is pretty shit brogonna go down to the paki and get a curry?>>520185060>when you die there will nothingness for eternitytrue, but "you" won't exist to experience ittherefore "actual" nothing (indescribable and incomprehensible)
>>520184797>christcuck think they can prove god with some talmudic word playThis is why you are jews, your thinking is not Aryan, it's jewish.
>>520184102>you must repent, or you will be punished severely.You never fail to remind us of the reason what religion is so utterly wrong.
>>520185199sorry bro but Christ is King is all
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die there will be nothingness for eternity.
>>520178270Atheists have led such a dull existence. Imagine not dealing with at least one ghost by the time you turn 18.
>>520185311King of who?
>>520185278This
>>520185278what religion should we choose anon, oh wise and circumcised anon
>>520185340Ghosts are not real bo back to /x/
>>520185311there's no need to say sorry, all things will be as they will beand you are retarded :)
>>520184797>t. doesn't understand the difference:Theist - BELIEVES in godsAnti-Theist - BELIEVES in gods but against themAtheist - DOES NOT BELIEVE in any gods.
>>520185041I bet we agree on more things than we don't, bong bro
>>520178270>finland>godbottingShow your real flag, you ain't no Pekka.
>>520185380Yes, they are. They usually hang out in graveyards.
>>520185340Do you need God to have ghosts?
>>520178270>"I do not know if there is a God, but hope so"This is agnosticism. You are not a believer. Living life as if there is a God when you aren't sure He exists is literally AGAINST the Bible. No one is impressed by wolves in sheeps' clothing. Works-based salvation is nonsense. Anyone who doesn't accept Jesus will burn forever in hell, period. Your opinion doesn't matter. The Bible is the Word of God, not your head canon.
>>520185447Agreed
>>520185182If God stopped people from making a choice to "save" us from that bad choice, then that would mean God doesn't care about out free will. A human needs to be saved from their present sinful condition, and God made that possible.1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."Hebrews 1:1-3: "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;" Isaiah 9:6“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”youtube.com/watch?v=EAtR40sue5MRevelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
>>520185363for the nth time, dingus, beliefs aren't chosenif you don't believe me, then just CHOOSE to believe me lmao>>520185435dang, you were so close2/3 ain't bad tho
>>520185495God in the sense this anon was talking about >>520179811You need it for existence in general.
Romans 8:39 "Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."John 6:27-29 "Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."John 6:40 "And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."Galatians 2:16 "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."Rom 5:8-9 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."John 14:6: “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”John 11:26: "And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"1 John 5:4-5: "For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?"1 Timothy 1:15 "This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief."Romans 5:1 "Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:"Rom 6:14 "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace."
>>520185530Mosr excellent! Can we start with purging all tranny nonsense? It seems to have infiltrated both put communities via Marxism garbage.
Nobody can tell me when "sin" started
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die there be will nothingness for eternity
>>520185646It's just reducing God to a "catch-all" term.
>>520185666>putOur*
Romans 4:4-5: "Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."Romans 10:9-10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."Eph. 2:8 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast."Romans 11:6 "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work."Galatians 2:21 "I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain."2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance".Hebrews 9:12 "Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us."John 10:28 "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."John 10:29 "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand." John 5:24 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”John 3:18 "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
>>520185522>burn forever for thought crimeThe pinnacle of morality here everyone look out!
>>520185755In a way that's what God is. I'm God, so are you.
>>520185666Is it possible God the Father has shown you a different path? Yes. Is it possible he has shown me another? Yes. Is every man identical? Nope. God is all knowing, and anything is capable to Him.Perhaps, in all the abundance of man's experiences could god have given us different paths to follow. You have yours, I have mine, we both have god, and each other, and of course Jesus.There can be no start or end unless it all begins like a flood imo. The entirety of babylon must be washed away
>>520184594>atheism is not even a rationalist position, let alone scientific.Correct. Not believing in any gods has nothing to do with any unrelated maths or science. They are non-overlapping magisteria.Atheism is less irrational because an atheist is not compelled to believe in witches and sorcery, or talking donkeys and serpents, or the sun traveling backwards in the sky, dragons, or living for days without oxygen inside a fish, flying horses,or the dead rising from their graves and walking the streets. Abrahamic religions are required to accept this kind of irrational nonsense among dozens others as their elements of faith.
>>520185541>If God stopped people from making a choice to "save" us from that bad choice, then that would mean God doesn't care about out free willYet God will interfere with the decisions of others to introduce problems into our life?Even against their (the victims or the others) will?Why do two groups of humans who believe in a single God go to war against each other? Protestants vs. Catholics?The facts lain bare: The "God" that different people worship and serve is an egregore. The conflict between the two groups is due to their religious belief differences and the conflicts that they cause.You can use anything you want to try to twist the conversation in such a way that "God" is responsible for everything, except your free will, and that is why anyone has problems. But reality obviously functions a different way.
>>520185803Every crime begins and ends as a thought, you carnal-minded beast and monstrocity.
>>520185849No you aren't, and because you have said this you will be cursed to learn how wrong you are. In three days time, you will pay the price for this blasphemy.
>>520178270>saying something doesn't exist that there is no evidence for is irrational
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die there will be nothingness for eternity!
>>520178795I'll believe you can picture an apple when you prove it scientifically. Until then etc
>>520186013YoWe will die as naked as the day we were born and stand before the father, I suggest you humble yourself now and not then
>>520186000It is true. I guess a more proper term to use would be "children of God" since we're all like mirrors reflecting his image. What stands between you and God is your ego.
>>520185712>Nobody can tell me when "sin" startedIt's a concept that was created by man to describe undesirable activities.The concept was taken up and formalized by religious leaders.What's "wrong" is considered by various societies as wrong.mudslimes slaughter dogs (because of a puppy if you look it up).Europeans put them on leashes.Neither is truly "sin".
>>520186053Non-sequitur. Try again.
>>520184884Almost all of China and Africa is atheistic.
>>520185910>Yet God will interfere with the decisions of others to introduce problems into our life?No, God lets us make our own decisions. But if we make evil decisions why shouldn't he be allowed to punish us? In fact in order to be Holy He has to, otherwise if He just allowed evil to happen without any consequence then that would go against what God is. If a judge doesn't judge properly then they are corrupt.
>>520186138I want a religious person to tell me because I know they can't. Any answer will eventually lead to them admitting their religion is bullshit.
>>520186141>non-sequitur Your entire premise is non-sequitur
>>520186053Why have Catholics gone to war against Protestants?>French Wars of Religion (1562–1598): A series of civil wars in France between Catholics and Protestants (Huguenots). >Casualties: Estimated between 2 and 4 million deaths from violence, famine, and diseaseSo people on both sides died, serving supposedly the same God?Neither side was victorious?Sound sane?You know your lies about what God is actually infuriate me?
1 Corinthians 122 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
>>520184482For centuries the churches fabricated these definitions and blurred their lines as an excuse to murder and torture people who did not believe. We don't have a Greek word for people who don't play golf, but the church has dozens of terms for its perceived enemies: heretic, anti-theist, blasphemer, apostate, atheist and agnostic to name a few.
>>520186329>no uI accept your concession. You clearly can't prove the existence of your god. Hell, you can't even tell me when sin started.
>>520186228>>520185712Im assuming youre asking in order to lead it to this question so herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZA0ESR6geU
>>520185872Amen brother
>>520186205You presume your condition in life is set by God. The condition of all people is set by God? The condition of all animals is set by God?Clearly not.What merit did either of those pictured have for their own status and success?You are lying. Either due to being deceived or incapable of reason and observation.
>>520186428No, not asking to lead to that at all. I'm simply asking when did sin start. Extremely weird that no Christian can give me an answer.
>>520186423>you can't even tell me when sin started.It started when you opened the thread with evil intentions.
>>520185712When the "divine spark" came into the flesh. There's a reason the lifestyle of a Catholic priest can be compared to a Tibetan monk. They're both ascetics, meaning they reject the world and the various pleasures of the flesh. They both strive to be closer to God, to achieve that union, you know? In kabbalah, Satan is just the physical world and your animal instincts. Acting on those instincts of the flesh pulls you away from God.
>>520186551>When the "divine spark" came into the fleshWhen was that?
>>520186527>Everyone outside my faith is evilWrong again.>They're going to HELL!You're cursing others. This is a form of evil.
>>520186496It started when Adam and Eve gained knowledge of good and evil by disobeying God.
>>520185849I get you bro. So, what happens after we die in your opinion? Is there a judgment and then sent to our final "place"? Are we just recycled back into new beings? A little of both? Genuinely asking :^)
>>520186596When the first organism that thought of itself as "I" came into existence.
>>520178363fpbpsimple but correct
>>520186496Or actually maybe this is the answer in Isaiah 14:12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High."So I guess it started with pride and envy?
>>520178898>used to
>>520186632Depends on if you've achieved "enlightenment". If not, you'll be judged and go from there, if you have, then youll join the others. Their existence is hard to put into words.
>>520186629When was that? What year?>>520186641Then you're disproving the adam and eve story. Congrats, you just went against your own book.>>520186734>So I guess it started with pride and envy?When did that start?
>>520179123>evolution could have been a natural processThe first steps of thinking.
>>520186627I'm not cursing him I'm telling him the truth. Was what I said wrong? Show me where I cursed him.
>>520186551Tibetan monks don't believe in the same sort of God that a catholic priest does. And they still hold a lot of values that orthodox Buddhists hold, which is that you must focus on living a simple life to avoid further suffering that the universe inevitably will bring upon you.
>>520186228Sin began when humanity became self-aware. Without self-awareness, there can be no guilt — for one cannot be guilty of what one does not comprehend. The serpent represents doubt, and the fruit of the tree represents self-awareness. This is why, after eating the fruit, “they realized they were naked.” You cannot realize your nakedness without self-awareness; likewise, you cannot feel guilt without it.Animals possess awareness, but not self-awareness — and this is why they are innocent. Once humanity gained self-awareness, we also gained responsibility for our actions. This is reflected in God’s words: “Cursed is the ground because of you.” The weight of consciousness — the burden of responsibility — entered the world.This idea is echoed in the words of Jesus:“If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, ‘We see,’ your guilt remains.”
>>520185363One that is pragmatic and not dogmatic. One that does not have a fabricated deity
Why have Catholics gone to war against Protestants?>French Wars of Religion (1562–1598): A series of civil wars in France between Catholics and Protestants (Huguenots).>Casualties: Estimated between 2 and 4 million deaths from violence, famine, and diseaseSo people on both sides died, serving supposedly the same God?Neither side eradicated the other.Was the outcome in line with the intentions of God?
>>520186791It started when satan turned his focus inward, replacing love with self. And this way instead of caring about God he became selfish. It wasn't God forcing satan to be evil, it was his own choice to make that decision to be selfish and become evil.
>>520186791No, the Adam and Eve story is symbolism for the descent into the material world. That's what the flaming sword in picrel is, it guards the tree of life. The tree of life is within, get it? Yggdrasil.
>>520178270
>>520186870Such as? You've only described Christianity.
>>520186803Christians who say people are going to hell are cursing them.
>>520186828One is behind a mountain of symbolism, one isn't. That's the difference.
>>520185522>This is agnosticism.((( Agnosticism ))) is a lie crafted by the church.
>>520186779I remember learning about reincarnation through Buddhism, I believe it was that in order to reach enlightenment, one must have all lives. Which I took it as reincarnation until I have experienced existence through all living things.What do you think of that?
>>520186791>When was that? What year?Well it says Adam lived 930 years so counting from the genealogy since Bible lists the people and how long they lived, they were around 6000 years ago
>>520186917He asked where the sin began and I told him. You do the devil's work putting words into my mouth and finding context where there is none. However, if you think being told of your sin is a curse then let you be cursed.
Ah, I love these threads. The philosophically illiterate are a delightful treat. Cant wait for that guy to make his thread again, I have such sights to show him.The gist is, an absolute claim either way without rigor is a disaster. Like Baki, stupid people know intuitively when someone is dangerous; their survival depends on it. Smart people know deductively. Midwits? Zero threat assessment.
>>520186848>Sin began when humanity became self-awareSo you're saying it started with Adam and Eve? When did that happen?>>520186879So now you're switching from Adam and Eve to Satan. Which is it, and again, when did it happen? You can't even pick one answer.>>520186972So now you're back to saying it was Adam and Eve and not Satan. So NOBODY before 4000 BC had sin or could commit sin?>>520186886>Adam and Even story is symbolismCongrats, you just disproved the entire bible because ANYTHING can now be labeled as symbolism.
>>520186919It's not. Catholic priests will stand up on their golden throne and tell you that you are shit and should be afraid of God. In Buddhism you are told you, and your life is precious and you should strive to make this life as simple as possible to make sure you don't end up in the cosmic shit end of chaos but rather slip silently into it.
>>520178270I think that the concept of God exists so completely on the periphery of humanity's capacity to understand, that attributing any qualities or deeds whatsoever to this thing would be inherently satanic and demeaning to this greater power. That anybody who stands by any shred of dogma that states "god is this" or "god wants that" is anthropomorphizing this idea and degrading it to the utmost. That believing in any particular God expressed by religion is the most anti God stance a person can take. Especially abrahamic religions. No jew, christian or muslim has ever provided me with a good solution to the epicurean paradox. They always make god terribly weak in their defense against it. A truly omnipotent god would have to be supremely powerful, supremely good and supremely evil. It would have to exist in a quantum state of superposition, beyond our 3d ideas of good and evil. To me, the ultimate expression of faith in god, is doubting its existence.
>>520187076Lolno. Do you even buddhism?
>>520187026>if you think being told of your sin is a curseNot what I said.>then let you be cursedVery nice. Would like an answer to:>>520186877
>>520187073Do you know what a parable is? Do you understand symbolism?
>>520187073Oh no I didn't change I just misunderstood. Adam and Eve sinned but It seems according to the Bible satan is the one who started sin. He is called the father of lies in John 8:44 which means he was the first one to start doing that I suppose.
>>520186956The thunderbolt path can be used to reach it in a single lifetime. >>520187073It is all symbolism, it just depends on if you know what it means or not. For example, this >>520186137is YHWH written vertically. It looks like a man, no? It is a reference to the divine spark in us all.
>>520186910I'm certain I was addressing all the deity-based religions.
>>520187076It is. Catholic priests are initiated into an order they will die for, correct. When he says "fear God" he means "if you don't you'll just be an animal".
>>520187076Life is suffering, and desire is literally the cuase of it in budhism. There is a Hell for those who commited sin. Buddhas has seen Hell itself in buddhist text.
>>520187196You have ZERO proof that anything in the bible is symbolism. If you claim something is, then EVERYTHING can be said to be symbolism.>>520187216>It is all symbolismThen you have no religion or god because your god is just symbolism. Doesn't actually exist. Congrats, you're now an atheist.
>>520187304I already told you, I'm God. The son of, to be more specific.
>>520187208Again, that would mean that NOBODY before 4000 BC had sin or could commit sin. Correct?
>>520187304Cant be a classical atheist. It's ontologically impossible to deny every aspect of existence. Things that exist, exist. Things that dont exist cant exist.
>>520187405god either exists or doesn't. If it's all symbolism, then god doesn't exist, and you don't believe it exists. Congrats, you're an atheist.
>>520187177Nothing will make sense until you understand the subversion in every aspect of life that's taken place. Some people can't see, they are blinded by God, and all the explaining and showing in the world won't ever make you realize if God has refused you (or more likely: you refused god) for whatever reason.>Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,You, being unable to see, are blinded to much. Only through Jesus and God will your eyes be opened, literally and figuratively.
>>520187176>no correction, no argument. I'm right. That's what Buddhism basically boils down to. >>520187277I grew up catholic, I was never told such shit. I was just told I was going to hell and praise Jesus. >>520187292>hell Not in the same way that you probably think it is. I explained what "hell" is to a Buddhist. They believe in cosmic superstructures that we will all inevitably will become part of. You either slip into with ease or you enter it in a chaotic manner and can be shifted around. It's that cycle that can continue you into more suffering outside this body.
>>520187555Meds
>>520187398Before Eve sinned, no human had ever sinned before that because Adam and Eve were the first 2 humans to exist, so yeah. But satan existed before humans and he is the one who started sin.1 John 3:8“He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.”
>>520178270Belief in God destroyed nations. Look at Muslims for example, their nations are backward and full of suffering compared to the secular West or atheist China which are thriving when rejected God.
>>520178270Cool blog post, loving the pseudo biblical vibe
I honestly feel bad for people so blinded by their fish cult, not understanding the world is so so old and humanity has been around for such a long time, much much longer than you're being told.
>>520187608You say meds, I read kabbalah.
>>520187503Your position is God doesnt exist, correct?
WHY do people lie about what God is?>It's not possible to lie about GodOkay... so this guy>>520187357>I'm God. The son of, to be more specificIsn't lying?LMFAO.Fucking liars.You have Protestants and Catholics killing each other by the millions, both claiming to serve God, and then retards ITT claim that God is happy with all of this?You're all fucking demented.God doesn't care about you. God doesn't care if you die.Someone can falsely claim to be God, and others can believe him. ANYONE can claim to be God.Why would God allow that?
>>520187592Because you aren't a priest. The Egyptians designed the church of Osiris to have an inner and outer component. The outer believed the stories to be literal and lived their lives as such, the inner knew the truth and understood their own abilities, and therefore could perform "magick".
>>520187555>God has blinded the unbelieverslol. More justification for what is seen, in opposition to what is believed. LIES.
>>520187592>muh hell nor real>it just metaphor>no fire no ghost nothingI literally have seen God, and the gay red man with horn. Nothing can convince me about the non-existence of God, and a by product of that is Hell.https://youtu.be/MyRNrHfQHqQ
>>520187592No. Buddhism is gnostic nihlism with a coat of paint. It's about escaping the cycle of karma and dharma by transcending humanity through aceticism and accepting nothing exists, then working to make nothing manifest. I didnt correct you because you were factually incorrect at a fundamental level.
>>520187637>Adam and Eve were the first 2 humans to existSo you're going against all scientific evidence that modern humans are ~300k years old? You're going against archeological evidence of humans existing between ~300k years ago and 4000 BC?>>520187693Yes, and you have agreed with me, just in a roundabout way.
>>520187657>Look at Muslims for example, their nations are backward and full of sufferingThey also destroyed Egypt and Babylon. Why? Because their cultures were sinful and evil in the eyes of muslims.
>>520187784>I literally have seen GodWhat did you see?
>>520187723Look up "Aztec Flower War".
>>520187840>So you're going against all scientific evidence that modern humans are ~300k years old? You're going against archeological evidence of humans existing between ~300k years ago and 4000 BC?There isn't really any proper evidence.https://youtu.be/di-_KVY7tX4?si=4Og9GooHjYl2f2hv
>>520187398>>520187781>SHOW PROOF>SHOW PROOF>SHOW PROOFMark 811 And the Pharisees came forth, and began to question with him, seeking of him a sign from heaven, tempting him.12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.
>>520187971A powerful being beyond your comprehension. That being certainly know enough about me to predict my movement with 100% precision. An Omniscience Being.
>>520188070Meds
>>520187972>used for military training, testing strength, acquiring human sacrificesOkay...>ending with the arrival of the Spaniards in 1519*That was uselss*
>>520188094Everything is already predestined, and I am destined to live with God for Eternity.>My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:>And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
>>520187840Nope. I call this Sassure's sabre; an irrefutable argument you cannot escape from given the position you've taken.The God exists, we have a word for it. Intersubjectively, actually; there's nothing intrinsic in the arbitrary symbols that make up the word God to imply the meaning. The meaning is relational, shared between you, me, and the minimal coherence we share in order to communicate, but not intrinsic to any one aspect, so it exists on a layer higher than subjectivity. Therefore God does exist, at minimum linguistically, and by communicating with me about it, you have a conceptual understanding about a concept that factually does exist; the conditions around that existence are irrelevant and werent specified. And as a result, you can be an atheist, but it isnt a logical position, because the conceptual existence (a type of existence) cannot be refuted an order higher than your subjective opinion, unless your position is based on "faith" instead of reason.Have fun.
>>520188041>>SHOW PROOFI don't need proof. I know God is real, but your version is incorrect.>More justification for what is seen, in opposition to what is believedI am saying your belief system keeps on coming into conflict with reality.Instead of acknowledging a flaw in your belief system, you twist it slightly in order to retain existing components.
>>520187823That's how Buddhists operate, it's not what they ultimately believe. Which is what I explained. They have a God, and it's not like a literal supernatural being, its larger cosmic entities. I'm talking about the God aspect, if you're gonna jump into a discussion at least clarify what I'm talking about. >>520187761The Egyptians also had many different gods. Its non comparable. Some gods like thoth were seen as like pharaoh, a literal living being.
>>520188131That's what 99% of all wars are to this day. They're where the sacrifices kill each other.
>>520188070>predict my movement with 100% precisionHow did you know this?Did it tell you? You just intuited that it knew?
>>520187990So you don't believe in Natufian culture? Any evidence of the cultivation of cereals, beer, etc. is all fake? All evidence of the Neolithic Age like China 7-10k years ago is all fake? Proto-humans like Neanderthals and Denisovans are all fake?>>520188160Arguing in bad faith. Everyone is clearly talking about a biblical god, which you just admit doesn't exist. Congrats, you're an atheist.
>>520188221Have you ever noticed how similar Hinduism is to the Egyptian religion? Indian music even resembles Egyptian music. They also believed cows were sacred, in fact a cow was central the Egyptian creation myth.
>>520188252It's like looking in the mirror. But the mirror move before I can move, and I follow that mirror. Like these Norn in God of War.https://youtu.be/F6geHs--suc
>>520188211>your version is incorrecti posted bible verses. that is my version of the truth bc IT IS the truth. Christ is the way, the light, and the truth. i may have tagged you accidentally, sorry
>>520187971I saw an angel many years ago wrapped in golden light, pure white, and it was very sad at me. I didnt know what it was at the time. I asked it to abandon me and save my daughter instead, it was too late for me. I saw Jesus Christ some weeks ago, wrapped in the same golden light, stood where I had stripped myself and fallen to my knees in the rain, forsaken the world and gave myself to God. I wondered why my friend like to walk barefeet in that specific spot for years prior, and I'm reminded of a passage in the bible >“Do not come any closer,” God said. “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.There's no such thing as a coincidence. Christ is King. God is the Father. All is real, and magnificent. Great things will happen to you, revelations will be revealed to you, happiness will be in abundance.
>>520188337That's nice and all, I asked you specifically and directly what your position was, and you accepted it. A classical atheist doesnt believe in any god, you now believe in a conditional god.
>>520188339There are tribes in America that are older than the Egyptians.
>>520188337The methods of "dating" these ages is very unreliable, they dated a live snail to have lived 400,000 years ago or something using their scientific carbon dating methods or whatever. It's not real evidence.
>>520178270>The thiker says from his logical reason, “There is no God.” They are lies created by corrupt men who do abominable deeds; there is none who does good.>retards say: "i do not know if there is a god but must cope by hoping so, and i will live as if there is one because without his looming threat of eternal damnation i would be incapable of upholding moral behavior>saying "there is no god" is the rational option, youre not only rejecting superstition, you are also thinking for yourself, let slaves be brainwashed by fairy tales for the free thinking man needs no god to discern right from wrong
>>520188403Again, arguing in bad faith. All you have is logical fallacies because you outright refuse to admit that your biblical god doesn't exist. I accept your concession. Thanks for admitting I'm right and you're wrong.
>>520188477You didn't answer my questions at all. Try again.
Same old debates people have been having for thousands of years...Be kind to yourself and others. Dont be afraid. I wish we would not war over religion. It is the most useless thing to fight about.If you hate me because I say this, that is your own sickness.I wish we could all get along, and live in peace.If you claim to be religious, but treat others like trash, hate others, want wars, you are worse than an atheist.
>>520188518No logical fallacy. Which one? No bad faith. I let you define your own position. It appears you are no longer arguing with me and it wad a skill issue on your behalf because of hubris and imprecise language.
>>520188547I did though? Look a the pic
>>520188471Indeed. It's sad most Americans don't know about the giants who once lived where they now have their houses.
>>520188639That's not answering my question. Is all the evidence? Are Neanderthals and Denisovans all fake?
>>520188247>Protestants were sacrificing Catholics to God>Catholics were sacrificing Protestants to GodWhat?
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die there will be nothing for eternity.
>>520188710>Neanderthals and DenisovansDated incorrectly too? Yeah I think so.
>>520188592My God is a war God. It's hypicritical of me to say that I hate war. I LOVE War.>Dominus quasi vir pugnator Omnipotens nomen eius
>>520188802Wasn't my question. Man, you're really trying to run out the clock. DID THEY EXIST? WERE THEY ALL FAKE?
>>520188721The Aztecs believed that if there wasn't enough negative energy to work alongside the positive energy the sun wouldn't rise. What this means is to maintain the frequency that this world exists in, there has to be a lot of death and suffering alongside happiness and abundance.
>>520188350>>520188394I believe you, but my theory is what you experienced comes from your belief system and religion rather than directly from the real, singular God. If your religion came from God, then you can say in a round-about way that it did, but so does everything else that everyone experiences.
>>520178795Define god
>>520188860Hey, hysterical anon who believes in conceptual god, relax. Just because someone smarter than you rubbed his cock on your face doesnt mean you should be mad. You had every chance to set definitions, dont take it out on someone else.
>>520188860>DID THEY EXIST? WERE THEY ALL FAKE?I don't know. Don't really care. I don't put my faith in scientists if that's what you're asking
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die there will be nothing for eternity!
>>520188883Too bad. My experiece is greater than All. Becuase I am the chosen ONE of God.
>>520189013You don't care that proto-humans existed or not, even though it would go against your religion? You are one low IQ retard. You'll do everything possible to keep believing in your skydaddy. You know who also denies all evidence that goes against their beliefs? Cultists.
>>520189153Funny, you are currently denying evidence that goes against your beliefs and acting a fool about it. Funny how that happens to people in faith based belief systems.
>>520188883Then your theory is incorrect, only God is capable of such miracles. I pray for knowledge I receive it with wisdom. I think Im doing wrong, "perhaps Im arguing with a christian" I pray and behold, god has led us both right. I need to be humbled and god humbles me. I say god what does this mean, help me find the truth and he shows me. I pray to god, please help the stray cat this is a wound no man can heal, and it is healed. Christ is King, Jesus is the son of God, the truth is the Bible
>>520189219Dude, I already accepted your concession. You just keep at it with your fallacies. Congrats, now I filter you. Keep replying, won't see any of it.
>>520189277There wasnt a single fallacy. It's not a tautology, it's an ontological proof as epistemology, using linguistic intersubjectivity. You just dont like it and have now thrown an temper tantrum, you faith based tard.
>>520189239>only God is capable of such miraclesI have seen man perform miracles attributed to God.
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die there will be nothing for eternity
>>520189536Reminder that all anti-christ will go to Hell.
>>520189153I'm not in a religion. I was saved by the Lord Jesus Christ and I know it. That's also why I know the Bible isn't incorrect in anything. If it really was possible to disprove the Bible then it would have been done a long time ago since that's what humanity has been trying to do as long as the Bible has existed.
>>520189219>Believing your eyesFaith.>Believing what others sayDouble faith.
>>520189484You see what you want to see.
>>520189647Meds
>>520189647Reminder that cursing people to hell for having a different belief is EVIL.
>>520189671I'm happy to hear you out. I'm allowed to gather counter-evidence and make my own conclusions.
>>520189709There is no greater Evil than GOD.There is no greate Good than GOD.All glory be to the Almighty Lord.>I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
>>520189766Good good, find truth anon, you will never be led astray with truth. I love you fren, be safe and take care. Our leaders are satanic and wish to kill you.
>>520189866Death is a lie. There is only Life.
>>520189660Shhhh. That's part 3, after parmenides, and plato; Descartes. Kant is after that. And the coup de gras? I'm an absurdist (read: nihilist, but nicer) and after the categorical imperative I'll demonstrate my contrary proof where it doesnt matter what exists, you are obligated to act as if it does. But that's for another thread.
>>520189901More meds
>>520189984Death is a punishment on Earth.Death is a lie in Heaven.Death is a salvation in Hell.All anti-christ will go to Hell.
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>>520188339No doubt theres similarities... there's new dna evidence that most Egyptians came from Mesopotamia, which has genetic ancestry traced to the indus cultures, well the outskirts. Going back to toth, it's basically a demi God taken from Greek mythology, Hermes Trismegistus.
I have appreciated this discussion. Thank you, anons.
>>520190335STFU faggot
Oh shit William Hung is back in his Templar flag lol
>>520190367Stop being so angry and nasty
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die there will be nothing for eternity!!
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God is a Jew