What's the end goal of nukes flying around in the sky for months or years?
>>520233181Probably the same as their poseidon or whatever the fuck it was: retarded vapourware that will never physically exist.
>>520233235this
>>520233235It already exists
>>520233181I hope total full nuclear war erases us all.Humanity is a mistake that needs correcting.
>>520233181>What's the end goal of nukes flying around in the sky for months or years?Having a cruise missile that can reach a target across the globe is really cool. It might take a while and there is a chance for a component to fail, but its not going to be shot down with any missile defense systems other than a fighter jet.Imagine coming low over the horizon, nobody is going to want to shoot it down with a stinger even if they could.
>>520233288lol
>>520233181that would be pretty fucking troll if russia had these missiles cruising all over the world constantly
>>520233181>russia has nukes, guys>they are about to use them, for real this time>we need to deploy troops and send 60 billion usd to israel
>>520233235it was tested successfully a few days ago and flew 15.000 km. norway confirmed it because they were tracking it.
>>520233181in theory they would be sent up to loiter somewhere for second strike capabilities. 0 chance they actually get used though. there's no non-nuclear way to use them, so they would get a nuclear response in retaliation.the media coverage is your standard russian nuclear sabre rattling.
>>520233181Russians really shouldn't be allowed to handle nuclear materials
>>520233181>make scary global range missile>subsonic>gets shot down by machine gun fire
Seems like a low orbit satellite would be just as useful, multiple satellites instead of one vehicle which if destroyed could contaminate an area, and no that area isn’t always “the enemies” territoryLow use time sats that deploy masses of drones would be more effective and harder to target as wellAfter they run out of drones they just burn up in the atmosphere
>>520234581Yea... If OP's image is correct, and this is intended to cruise 25-100 meters above ground level, and at that can only attain mach 1, LEO drop pods remain the more economically viable solution.By its stats, this thing looks as easy to shoot down as an early MiG, but with the added diplomatic cost of being explicitly nuclear.
>>520234440do you want a radioactive engine to fall near you ?
>>520234921if you shoot it down its nuclear payload explodes. and a nuke exploding at 25m create an hell lot of radiation for centuries on.
>>520233368its purpose is polluting with radiation the enemy territory and exploding its nuclear payload when someone tries to shot it down.
>>520233948> flew 15.000 kmon which route ?
>>520233181You're maybe a chink or a jeet but there are probably westerners ITT. in nuke warfare you kill the origin sites before launch. how do you kill a nuke already in the air and can stay there for a really long time? slap a few of these on a truck or a bomber jet and they can be launched from anywhere. this is why nuclear armed stealth bombers are so powerful, and likely the reason they are revealing these. its possible to kill them, but its harder. many will likely malfunction in mid air (another reason they will never use them unless they intend to kick of nuclear war which also isn't going to happen) and will also likely have little to no way to communicate with them in a real war and can be intercepted easily once detected. if they want to communicated with the missile they have to send something out, use a satellite (which will be blown up immediately at the start of a real war), or have the missile fly back near to friendly airspace for communications which makes it easy to spot. they can't be launched and left in the air for months or years prior to a conflict because that makes them able to be tracked and logged and defeats the purpose.
>>520233288Get a load of this faggot
>>520233181I recently learned that steel forged since WW2 has higher levels of background radiation than steel forged before then. Precise medical technology and whatnot actually needs to repurpose salvaged steel rather than newly forged stuff, and so there's a lucrative shipwreck salvaging business around metal recovery.
>>520235893>this retarded myth againYes, I'm sure it's impossible to find iron ore anywhere that isn't contaminated by mystery background radiation, so we have to salvage steel out of the ocean instead before it's the last steel on earth that's still goodThe only reason this was made up was so China wouldn't grab that one specific wreck near their shores
Nukes are not real
>>520233181Climate change and racism.
>>520235550>>520235450>>520235334 Are you getting paid to post this bullshit as part of the new fear campaign?Radiation will only ever get you if you lick dust off the walls or streets or you let the russians set a reactor on fire for weeks without telling anyone that the smoke is going to rain down on their crops.And even the aftermath of Chernobyl was much less sever than what was predicted by the fearmongers Meanwhile places that actually got hit by atomic bombs now have cities built on top of them again and all it took was a few decades and there was no centuries of everything being turned into a brown wasteland with flowing green goop.Go fuck yourself
>>520233959>Russia is provoking a nuclear responsehttps://www.brookings.edu/articles/us-nukes-in-poland-are-a-truly-bad-idea/https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/poland-fixed-us-presence-will-warrant-russian-response
Nuclear power doesn't work like that
>>520235970No, that's not the problem, it's literally the air itself. We're speaking in absolute terms. As in, you need steel that is functionally perfect in terms of isotope contamination. I also don't know what you're talking about, and I don't care.
>>520235893>>520235970I thought this was supposed to be about lead?Finding old deeply buried lead pipes that had not absorbed trace surface radiation.Literally worth their weight in gold.
>>520236537Probably both and more.
>>520234921Probably something to do with this.
>>520233959>there's no non-nuclear way to use themThis. They might as well use a nuke because it's going to get the same response with the contamination it causes.
>>520233235I love how you speak about Russia like this but not China whenever they claim to have a new weapon or next gen whatever the fuck.
>>520233181This concept isn't exactly new. We already came up with the idea back in the 50s. But obviously now that the Russians are thinking about doing it, it's suddenly a "Russia bad" moment for the ZOG propagandists to capitalize on.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersonic_Low_Altitude_Missilehttps://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a13978519/slam-cruise-missile-nuclear-thermonuclear/
Why do they bother with these gimmicks when they already have a far more effective deterrent in the form of ICBMs?Then again it's not my taxes and it's money away from forces that they could actually use.
As far as I can tell part of the goal of these weapons systems Russia is creating, is to cause NAFO retards to cope and seethe, which is good because their salt is usually pretty funny.
>>520237718because they attack from all angles at once.there will be ICBMs, Hypersonics, Hypersonic Glide vehicles, nuclear cruise missiles, drones, medium range ballistic missiles, nuclear torpedos launched from planes, submarines, ships, containers etc. coming from every possible side.some of them are guaranteed to hit something.
>>520233181the turbines can't run continuously without maintenance, thing will fall our of the a sky due to mechanical failure
>>520233181Stop being a retard. OP has an ass for a brain. It's when OP fell out of the stupid tree at birth and got stuck in the ground, and has an ass for a head. Speak shit, thinks shit. Has no other rationality, except shit for brains.It doesn't fly for years. It burns out. It's why it's a missile. So it explodes.It supposedly had unlimited range. It doesn't mean it last indefinitely.
>>520238064russia isn't china
>>520237863You seem to think that most of them wouldn't hit something. Missile defenses are laughable, just look at what happened to Israel againsts Irans missiles despite them having the best defense of any country. The US, China and Russia could all fire a single ICBM at each others capital and I can guarantee you that more than one of the MIRVs would hit, because they do so at mach 23+.The only way to "win" a nuclear war is a decapitation strike where you nuke the the enemy leadership, their replacements, their replacements replacements, their comms and redundancies upon redundancies before they manage to fire their own missiles at you. But this isn't possible because there are too many targets that are too dug in or too mobile. Even if you nuked DC or Moscow now with a suitcase nuke they would still have replacements under a dozen bunkers all with the authority to launch in case the president was unreachable. This is why the cold war never went hot.
Nevermind I just figured out the logic behind this weapon.It takes about 2 weeks for radiation to dissipate to levels where you can walk in the ruins of a nuked city. Also in a full scale nuclear war both sides would have likely managed to expend or destroy each others nuclear arsenals so you may not be able to nuke the enemy survivors after the initial exchange. But by having cruise missiles with months flying time you pace your attack in such a way that they attack the enemy every 2 weeks after the initial attack, thus preventing the enemy leadership from resurfacing from their bunkers without risking being nuked.
>>520233181Insurance policy, the weapons go up with orders to loiter and attack in the future. Should any strikes miss those targets and the military is decapitated they will take out or double tap targets.
So Russia's answer to the US building a system that shoots missiles as they launch, is to have missiles that are always in the air.This shit is fucking retarded, if the missiles were constantly in the air flying patterns over the ocean then you fucking KNOW some engineer will find a way to track it, and shoot it down midflight.What a fucking waste of time.
>>520235334You shoot it over the ocean
>>520238717We could also invest in THAAD-ERhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3SMs_IR1vc
>>520233235It does exist you retard.
>>520233959It's to get around the predictable ICBM missile arcs. It is much harder to stop a low flying munition as ICBMs always do the same pattern.
>>520240472So you have every single inch of land covered huh.
>>520240994I think we can do what they did in WW2 and mount some M2s on planes and have them down them over the sea as they come in.
>>520233181Fun
>>520241059You see every single thing in the air huh? Impressive.
>>520235550That's retarded. Like the demon core flail, everyone dies
>What's the end goal of nukes flying around in the sky for months or years?Sword of Damocles effect.
>>520233235oink oink snort i agree oink
>>520233181It's fucking awesome.
>>520239494That's not it's purpose. Cruise missiles fly very low to the ground. Most radars do not actually see them well what sees them is sight on the launch point. These can be launched by a vehicle in the boonies of Siberia and wed have no idea. They fly maybe a few meters above the ocean so most radars won't see it. Once it's past the border of the territory it's very hard to stop it at that point
>>520240944it's a bonus, but wouldn't need a month of nuclear powered flight time to have unpredictable trajectories for cruise missiles. if anything it would be more predictable than a simpler system that doesn't spend loitering since you would have less time to detect and track it
>>520233181>ICBMs not feasible anymore
>>520242398Most radars wouldn't see it it would require an away to find it. Limited range. It can go anywhere and is low flying. Id it going to decide everything? Probably not but it is a real threat and people just assume it would be seen. Most cruise missiles are not seen easily. You are mistaking them for ballistic missiles.
for bantz and teh lulz
>>520242727Awac*
>>520233181> 25-100mNigger, that's flying straight into small hills, nevermind skyscrapersMonths of flight my ass
>>520233181If this is anything like their PAK-FA program, they will have a total of 1 protype after 20 years.
>>520233181Current anti ICBM systems rely on a specific operation of such missiles - ie. They take off (ideally detect that here), then they have a hyberbolic flight trajectory on known flight paths (over arctic) - they ideally be intercepted here, and before they get too close to ground.This technology changes everything, it could fly south towards the pacific, then to south America and then north through mexico for example. There is no infrastructure to intercept ICBMs let alone hypersonic missiles on such trajectories, and it would be very difficult to do.It basically makes it so that it can come from anywhere and it's impossible to intercept even one
>>520234103that's the only thing keeping jews from genociding the goyim, you retard
>>520233181we already do that, they're called satellites and they stay in orbit for decadeswe have one armed with a nuke above every one of our adversaries capitols and can drop a stategic payload ontop of them within a minute.i don't give a fuck putinyour modern cruise missiles suck dick and your previous "uninterceptable" doomsday hypersonic doesn't dare travel near kyiv or our 50 year old gen 1 patriot batteries stationed there anymore after getting slapped out of the sky lmao
>>520233181>>520233235this one seems retarded atleast the drone in the sea makes sense.what is the point of this? you just gonna have these guys doing rounds along your borders ?
>>520233235You are just jealous Russia is actually developing its nuclear tech.
>>520233560If you want the whole world to hate them, even people who aren’t currently against them - sure.
>>520245371>armata has entered the chat
>>520241797delete that picture from the internet
>>520245564But I thought Armata wasn't nuclear?
>>520233235You got em worked up with this one lol
>>520245771there's no reason to think there's less corruption with burevestnik than armatado you just trust whatever they say?
>>520245950I trust most things that are related to nuclear stuff because I work in rosatom and understand how the structure works from within. Russia's "nuclear world" is almost completely separated from everything else and lives by its own rules.
>>520245371Yeah I'm surprised nobody is really emphasizing that they basically crated 2 SMR's. And also Rosatom is basically a state within a state. They are gonna have their own EV's now and boats and a bunch of other shit. I lose track.
>>520233181It is not a first-strike weaponIt is a retaliatory weapon. SO after we hit them with a nuclear missile, this thing keeps flying around, and drops a few nuclear warheads on us.
>>520246023wif you say soall the adekvatnie people I know have fled russia already. I don't think you can have a geriatric dictator and not have that corrosive downstream effect, nuclear forces or not
>>520233181The problem is: wtf do you do with a missile flying around for months/years?what if it needs mechanical maintainance?. what if the war it was supposed to rebalance via nuke has finished?How do you land a nuclear missile?Where do you land a nuclear missile?Questions not answered or even accounted for by the Russians, they´re subhuman like that. I know my fucking Russians, 120IQ but they behave like actual niggers from niggafrica, see Vladimir Kramnik for current manifestations of how these mongolian niggers behave.
>>520233629>russia has nukes, guys >they are about to use them, for real this time>so please stop defending yourself
>>520240662Won't work. You had tech like the Sprint missile in the 1970s with mach 10 speed and nuclear warhead and Regans Star Wars after that and you still gave up on the idea.It's just much easier to make reentry vehicles, glide vehicles etc. that are hard to shoot down than it is to make a missile that can shoot them down. The THAAD is just there to prevent north Korea from nuking you with a handful of 1960s tech missiles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msXtgTVMcuA
>nuclear turbojet enginehahahaha may as well say that's magic powered engine. You snow niggers aren't even able to build normal jet engines.
>>520239641> some engineer will find a way to track it,It spews so much radiation it would be harder not to track it
>>520233181Proof it actually exists? Let me see some pictures and test footage of it actually working. Russia couldn't even test launch their ICBMs without them blowing up their whole fucking silo, or their second/third stage motors failing to ignite. Same with their SLBMs. The Bulava has ~50% success rate due to second and third stage failures. Not to mention just how many reactor problems their subs have had over the decades, literally dozens and dozens. And you expect me to believe they suddenly mastered microreactors small enough to be fitted to a standard CM in an indirect cycle configuration? lol lmao even. I was born a day, but it wasn't yesterday.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qMuS5kaDBI>>520233288>It already existsMay I see it? And the Posiden while you're at it? Or do they both go to a different school, and I wouldn't know them?>>520233948>it was tested successfully a few days ago and flew 15.000 km.Proof? >norway confirmed it because they were tracking it.MayI see this confirmation?
>>520233235Both were confirmed and exist but the Zigger propaganda is obviously massively exaggerating the capabilities.Russia has neither the know-how nor the money to create any cutting edge tech, let alone doomsday weapons. We still have to take it serious tho to keep our own weapons and counter-measures top-shelf. There's no harm in using our massive intelligence apparatus to keep track of it and develop counter-measures or retaliatory weapon systems.In the end we already won against Russia. Their country is a poor aids-ridden shithole and will always be one.
>>520246268Been keeping up with the last couple presidents you guys had?
>>520235450>if you shoot it down its nuclear payload explodesNo it doesn't you absolute retard. A nuclear warhead is extremely hard to detonate, as you need 360 degrees of HE explosions detonating within milliseconds of each other to implode symmetrical or you just get an regular HE explosion with radioactive material in it (a dirty bomb). Which is why modern nuclear warheads have a designated spot on them for EOD teams to place a block of C4 on that will explode the warhead and destroy it as a safety disarming measure. I swear, /pol/ is full of the most absolute bottom of the barrel low IQ trash anymore that knows fuck all about anything but being a failure at life.
>>520247220> and will always be oneHey, they might become Chinese territory and chinks will get rid of aids
>>520233181My guess is that it is just a technological demonstrator with the extra of making some good propaganda headlines.
>>520233181Can't wait bitches.
>>520233181Is that the new mongolood missile?
>>520235550>its purpose is polluting with radiation the enemy territoryNo... as Russia explicitly states that it uses an indirect cycle power unit. This means that the reactor is sealed away from the power unit - be it ramjet or a turbine, and the reactor core never comes in contact with the air used to propel the CM. They use a secondary loop system to extract heat from the core and use that medium ( liquid metal) to heat, or drive the primary propulsion unit (ramjet or turbine). You're talking about a direct cycle power unit wherein air is directly channeled through the reactor core where it is heated and expelled through a nozzle to the atmosphere. Again, you're an idiot that doesn't know what the fuck you're talking about. The only think I'm confident you're knowledgeable in is being a low IQ loser. Leave the intellectual discussions to humans; if I need to know how to be a complete failure at life I'll be sure to ask, until then, fuck off to a thread more your speed like /chug/.
>>520233181The problem with nuclear engines is that even if the fuel lasts for months/years, you've got to land for maintenance and lubrication every so often.Plus all aircraft have a limited lifespan due to metal fatigue, and flying 24/7 is just eating thousands of flight hours for no good reason.
>>520237718Because their ICBMs are shit, and after all the very public failed tests people laugh when Russia screams I-I'M GONNA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK! So, Russia had to come up with another doomsday vondavaffle to try and get people to be afraid instead of laughing at them. Their last ICBM test literally deleted its own silo, some before that the second and third stages failed to ignite, and the Oreshnik disintegrated in mid air creating a synthetic meter shower for amused onlookers below.
>>520238584Yeah, it's worse. It's not the early 80s anymore, and Russia isn't the USSR.
>>520245371May I see this so-called tech, Ivan in office 3b floor 20 of the Lakhta building?
>>520234581If you had nukes in geosynchronous orbit, they could be rather small. The physics package of a nuke is not much larger that a fire extinguisher. Wrap that in a heat shield and drop it at 25,000MPH and it would look just like a small meteor...until kablooey. No launch detected, just boom. Kind of like the rods from god concept but with a nuke. It has to exist, because it can exist.
>>520248364>and after all the very public failed testsYeah? Which are those, by the way? Jews wouldn't just randomly say lies on the Internet, would they?
>>520233181It flew 18 hours not years or even month
>>520233368What happened to SS-27 ?
>>520248725It needs 4 km/s to deorbit from geosynchronous orbit.It would be quite big rocket and it would be visible.
>>520248857It didn’t actually fly
>>520233181Well, it's not an operational nuclear weapon of course, Russia lost the ability to manufacture and maintain them a while ago, but it's essentially a dirty bomb supposedly capable of flying at low altitudes. The actual threat potential isn't high, but monkee has to cope about his failed 3 day SMO somehow
>>520248755I know in pidorussia they don’t teach you anything but you’re only making yourself look stupid by denying observed reality
>>520233181Has anyone else been having nightmares about nukes? I keep getting vivid dreams and they're honestly really fucked up. WMDs are genuinely terrifying
>>520248755I guess that 60m wide crater where the RS-28 SARRmat silo used to be is all kike lies? Kek. The last 4 of 5 SARRmat tests have been failures - which is an 80% failure rate, and the deployment keeps getting delayed year after year. It was supposed to be 2018, then 2020, then 2022, 2023, and now just recently Putin admitted it still wasn't deployed and they were planing its deployment soon (tm). Stop the cope.https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2024-11/news/sarmat-failure-casts-doubt-russian-heavy-icbmhttps://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/21/politics/russia-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-test/index.htmlhttps://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2023/10/russias-sarmat-missile-saga-reflects-an-industry-in-crisis?lang=enhttps://x.com/Defence_Index/status/1930712878895526357
