Stanley was wrong.
>>520251547impresive! *eats cow shit.*
The percentage of people who have ANY ethical or moral system is considerably lower than that. Normies ethics is basically >me first
>>520251547> atheists are smarterFedora tipping midwits
The correct interpretation of the Milgram experiment is that 80% of people will happily torture people as long as they have an excuse that lets them get away with it.
>>520251646Pretty much this, atheists may be on the right side of the bell curve's middle but they are still in the middle. To the truly intelligent, random chance is just not as logical an explanation as intelligent design.
How can even you be a atheist? It means you have final conclusive evidence there is no god. Smart thing is agnosticism, unless you had a spiritual experience (or delusions in many cases). And who's to say its a jewish skydaddy? Many of their own sub-cults say that the demiurge is a minor god and bible says satan is the ruler of this world. Where does such evil come from?
>>520251547Which why Hindus and Muslims are low iq. People inventing/postulating theories of sciences aren't Hindus or Muslim.
Every hard core atheist I know was in full compliance with covid restrictions.
>>520251547Atheists may or may not be smarter on average, yet are not very wise. It takes a more powerful mind to convince itaelf out of obvious truths, hence why simpler people are better judges of the more basic aspects of reality. They lack the ability to delude themselves, since it takes a clever mind to do that.
>>520252020Ah the masculine urge to present anecdotal fluff.
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>>520251547Atheist are midwits.
>>520251807I honestly don't even believe hardcore atheists are midwits. Their only skills are playing video games and watching TV. They might appear to be more intelligent than a sportsball loving blue collar Christian, but their life's accomplishments only amount to things teenagers are capable of.
Atheists were some of the first to say "Trust the science" which lead to them happily complying to lockdowns, wearing a mask, (some still do to this day), and taking the vaccine.
>>520252118Most people share the same anecdote, which means the sample size is large enough to be a fact Mr got boosted 5 times.
>>520252226You are arguing with a beta male or a woman. They dismissed your statement as what would be considered toxic masculinity
>>520252171Eh, to be fair most of the time they are hung up on like one or two details and are so use to dealing with true idiots no one has ever really pointed out the obvious to them. I was an atheist in my 20s but as soon as I had that breakthrough in realizing how illogical it was it felt like a huge weight was lifted off me. You have to keep in mind, 99% of push back atheists receives from Christians through their life is "but what about hell" which is perhaps the dumbest way to try to convince someone they are wrong.
>>520252226I’m a homeopathic practitioner. Viral rna prophylaxis isn’t my bag.
>>520251601What? Look at boomers
>>520252188A lot of Christians did not comply, or complied but protested about it. I think they seen what it was clearer than the "high IQ free thinkers": a new religion.
>>520252319Lol
>>520252171They think they are smart, yet they are not breeding. The bloodlines if people they deem stupid will go on, while theirs will die off because they are too busy focusing on their own wants and needs.
>>520251547hold up, are atheist smarter even if black? is iq a good measure of how much a person can contribute to society? I'd argue atheist to be actually smart tho, if anything the atheist is science inclined, not particulary intelligent, having data knowledge does not mean you can apply it in the real world, atheists are also limp wristed faggots wich also explains why they go bookworming ways to compensate for their lack of actual skills. It's like one should work on their own advantages instead of attributing onself the victories or aptitudes of any ingroup you chose to 'belong' to.
>>520252370You cannot have children as a monk.If you were truly committed to God, you wouldn’t have children.
People with low IQ have PROFOUNDLY STRONG common sense because their brain can’t process complex and fancy ways of thinking. People with high IQs are smart enough to understand complex ideas but see thru the athiest psyop and recognize it as the most midwit position possible. Atheism is literally an entire mindset revolving around DESPERATELY needing people to think you are smart because you ARE smarter than the average but nothing too much above it, creating the world inferiority complex and need to pretend to be smart. Whereas the genius, loves looking stupid and thinks it’s funny when a midwit thinks they’re smarter than them for holding the mindset given to them by MSNBC.
>>520252453They were hoping that the antivaxxers were going to all die off so they could smugly beat their chest and say they were right.
>>520252453>Atheism is literally an entire mindset revolving around DESPERATELY needing people to think you are smartIt isn't. It's just a lack of belief in God or gods
>>520251547atheists cease to exist once a foxhole is introduced.
>>520252453>mindset given to them by MSNBCEveryone is born an atheist my friend
>>520251547>Atheists are smart and they are freethinkers.The biggest bullshit i ever heard. Most of fedora tipping atheists are no better than people you see as "Stupid". Majority of atheist never "Realized that god doesn't exist" you simply heard from someone that "Only stupid people believe in God" and just took it for granted, most of you didnt even spent even a second to just sit down and think about universe itself and potential existence of any divine being within it. Not to mention most of atheists believe in science but then get mad when they are met with scientifical fact like "There are 2 genders" or "Statistics show that black people are more likely to commit crimes than white people" beceause most of you never really was about embracing science, you simply moved from 1 set of doctrines to another set of doctrines from "If you say god doesn't exist, you commit sin" to "If you say that there are only 2 genders, you are a nazi/bigot".
>>520252276I get there's alot of morons on the Christian side, but Christianity was never presents as a high IQ club; God is for the dumb and smart alike. My beef is mostly with the Reddit atheists and their large smugness with little actual high IQ accomplishments behind them. Reading "superman but he's an asshole" graphic novels isn't some grand accomplishment, and if you think it is than you're developmentally challenged. The hardcores I know remind me of me when I was 14, and that's nothing to be proud of. >>520252282I don't believe in homoeopathy, but I'd take your droplets over mRNA shit that objectively did nothing but harm people. Even if is was just 3 days of feeling like shit, it still counts are harm.
>>520252453>People with low IQ have PROFOUNDLY STRONG common senseNo, they don't.
>>520252551midwit response
>>520252188The smart ones don't talk about religion, they aren't atheists.
>>520251547Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideology:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_RevolutionChristianity has always been a racist religion:>"Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race chosen and beloved [...]">"the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God [...]"- https://www2.cbn.com/article/church/pope-urban-iis-speech-calling-first-crusadeThe racist and anti-semitic Confederates have always been Christian.The National Socialists used the Celtic cross and gave out iron cross medals for bravery. The white term for "swastika" is hakenkreuz, meaning hooked cross.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HakenkreuzbannerHere's a growing list of Christian political commentators who are racist and anti-semitic:- https://rentry.org/Deus_VultFeel free to reply to this post with others.Educate boomers irl. If you don't preach to them, the anti-Christian kikes will:- https://news.antiwar.com/2025/10/06/israel-to-spend-up-to-4-1-million-in-propaganda-campaign-targeting-american-christians/israeli nationalism ("zionism") is a heresy:- https://youtu.be/GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s- https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-AThe "holocaust" (burnt offering) is a lie made up by kikes, both soviet and freemason:- https://rumble.com/c/ScriptureandTraditionFrJM/videosBoycott israeli products:- https://bdsmovement.netCommon glownigger talking points:>"jesus is a kike"The word "kike" comes from "kikel", which means circle. The kikes hate the cross so much, they would sign documents with a circle, hence the nickname.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign>"off topic"Reminder the pope is the monarch of a country. In fact in many white nations there is no separation between church and state.
>>520252652It's the actual definition.
>>520251547I'm too agreeable. A born yes man. Can't even help it, I just like action and I'm a pleaser.
>>520252578>atheists cease to exist once a foxhole is introducedPat Tilman
>>520252453Intelligence correlates strongly with atheism. Just saying.The reason is people with low intelligence need to have an answer, but it also needs to be something simple. That answer to them is "god did it". Everything that happens in the world has complex systems behind it, literally beyond the comprehension of even the most smartest in the world (we would know if someone mastered it as they would become the emperor of mankind). The idea that the world is completely out of control and is impossible to actually control is frightening. It's comforting to think there's an all powerful, all seeing being that controls everyting.The fact is the higher the IQ the more atheists you're going to find.
>>520252728No you weren’t born that way.You were conditioned through fear.
>>520252020I am an atheist. My also atheist friend and I didn't take the vaccine, but we also haven't participated in any surveys.
>>520251601Stanley was wrong, yes. None of his experiments had ecological validity. Some were better than others, but there were no real world observations or application of his work.Command someone to harml them selves. See his work fall apart.
>>520252868literal generations have been told by the screen and sly smirks that they should not reproduce, no that reproduction is the worst thing to happen to themalso the vaxx and other luxury beliefs like "go be nice to that nigger, i bet he won't stab YOU as long as you're nice :)"
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>>520252974“cannon fodder”
>>520251547This isn't about intelligence, it's about people being under constant pressure, mentally exhausted and socially isolated. People obey because they have a real tangible connection to the authority ordering them around and very weak, if any, connection to the people they hurt.
>>520252868>Command someone to harml them selves. See his work fall apart.Command them to harm their children. Works like a charm.
>>520252974Yet reproducing is something that occupies the minds of pretty much everyone. It doesn't defeat the drive to reproduce. religion had the same problem, creating massive cultural and social problems for people who had children out of wedlock. People still reproduced. You can't instruct people to not do something. Which is one issue with Millgrams work and a major problem with his critical thinking prediction. You can however lie to people to create action. Which is what you are describing and not what Millgram was measuring.>>520252996Again, this is not what Millgram was measuring. He was not instructed to immolate himself with no context as to why it should be done.Let's make it absolutely clear:Millgram went to normal people and told them to hurt people with no context or information given and they did. The interesting thing to all this is where is the imperative to cause harm?
>>520251547agnostic theist, atheists are retarded.
>>520253241>He was not instructed to immolate himselfHe was not conditioned to immolate himself? Are you sure about that?How are you distinguishing instruction from conditioning, the overt nature of the former hijacking of will?
>>520251547>ThereforeThat literally does not follow from the sentence before.Have you failed 3rd grade logic class?>smarterkek
>>520253450>How are you distinguishing instruction from conditioningThat's almost impossible to do without lab conditions. I guess, you could argue that the shock the results caused was because of conditioning and that it would unfair to impose our morality under those conditions, but then you would have to account for the same or similar moral structures in all civilisations through out history.As I said in another post, you can lie to people to bring action. Action doesn't just begin and end with authority, which is what Millgram proposes.
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>>520251547The crazy thing to me is that the 20% of the population who can defy an order are not valued. And in fact are actively feared and ostracized.
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>>520251601What an odd "therefore" it rejects the idea that someone can follow an irrational order.
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>>520251601Nah>>520251547Even as an Atheist most Atheists don't have the critical thinking skills to consider if an action is moral or legal outside of what people from "their side" say is moral or legal.Most people can be swayed on an issue by being told someone they support and consider a leader supports a side on an issue or someone they oppose or view as an enemy has a disagreeing opinion on an issue. For example you can convince most republicans to support a decrease in military spending or increase in taxes by saying Donald Trump or whoever their politician is supports it while you can convince most democrats to say oppose foreign aid or abortion by saying Bernie Sanders made some argument against foreign aid or that abortion is racist because most abortions are done on minorities.Most people base the vast majority of political and wider social opinions like religion and morality on the idea of in group and out group.
>>520254182Your appeal to authority is a dead made up psychologist.Everyone in that made up experiment was from the middle class. Whom have an entirely different relationship to authority than the upper or working classes.
>>520254426>He thinks class determines how much of a sheep you areEven in the absence of formalized studies personal observation can be used, I know plenty of working class people who are the biggest retards when it comes to politics and religion, basing all of their opinions in practice on what other people they view as important believe. Hell you can just look at this website where tards will say "Trump is based for banning Chinese spies from American colleges" and then a week later say "Trump is based letting Chinese students come to America for the sake of a trade deal that will change in two months." On the other hand you'll have liberals on reddit saying "Trump is an idiot and America is losing so much talent by refusing Chinese students who subsidize college costs" and then say "Trump is an idiot he caved on such an important point for nothing."
Everyone likes to pat themselves on the back with bullshit like this. Truth is most of us have never been tested actually. Most people that thi k their rebels for having edgy opinions have never actually had to sacrifice anything for that opinion
>>520254881Are you working class?
A Jew doesn't need to pay Christians to shill Jewish propaganda.Christians are Shabbos Goyim and willingly do it for free because their Religion came from the Jews.
>>520251547Authority confers legitimacy
I just used it on myself, same with this fellas here. I just made it standard in gnome, after the computer mentioned no uses after 17 years
>>520251547Quite interesting, these are roughly the numbers of people that would have refused the vax no matter what.
>>520254995Not true considering corona just happened. I had a lot disadvantages due to not taking the shot.
>>520251646May I see them?
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